Patriots could pursue an appeal of their own

AP

Owner Robert Kraft’s initial statement in the wake of the Ted Wells report was along the lines of “I’ll huff and I’ll puff and I won’t blow your house down.” Last night’s reaction from Kraft in the aftermath of the various penalties imposed on the team and quarterback Tom Brady suggests that Kraft is now thinking about blowing someone’s house up.

It’s a given that Brady will appeal his four-game suspension. Per the league office, the Patriots separately can appeal the $1 million fine and the removal of two draft picks — a first-rounder in 2016 and a fourth-rounder in 2017. Any appeal from the team would be handled by the Commissioner or his designee.

It’s also possible that the Patriots and their lawyers will consider the possibility of conjuring a possible lawsuit, in the event the appeal is unsuccessful. Peter King of TheMMQB.com and NBC’s Football Night in America thinks it’s possible that Kraft will decide to “go rogue” and sue. It’s possible that Kraft will simply want the league to fear litigation when processing an appeal, in the hopes that Kraft will be placated by a reduction in the penalties.

Litigation filed by the Patriots remains an unlikely possibility, for a variety of reasons. For example, it would potentially alienate Kraft from his partners, and it would set a bad precedent.

If Kraft is angry enough to consider filing suit, however, that’s bad news for Commissioner Roger Goodell. Once Kraft realizes that filing suit isn’t a realistic option, Kraft could instead embark on an effort to overhaul the leadership of the league.

Either way, it makes for potentially awkward meetings next week, when the owners convene in San Francisco for the quarterly get-together of the folks who run the sport.

162 responses to “Patriots could pursue an appeal of their own

  1. Kraft is digging a hole. EVERONE, even their “fans” know and accept that the Patriots are an organization that cheats. Lie some more, promise you will never allow cheating by your organization again and move on. All in all it was just another slap on the wrists anyway.

  2. I have a radical idea. Don’t cheat, don’t employ cheaters and just follow the rules. All of you everyone else does it sound like my kids when they get in trouble. It doesn’t matter until you get caught.

  3. If he has as much power amongst the owners as has been reported, he should use it much the same way that the competition committee uses theirs to try and even the turf every year. I don’t even think a law suit is necessary. He could just go Al Davis on the NFL.

  4. Kraft needs to turn his attention to his ball club, and quit blaming the NFL for enforcing the rules.

    This is not the first time Goodell has fined the Patriots. Goodell basically called Belichick a liar back during the spygate investigation, publicly saying that he didn’t believe Belichick’s excuse for the illegal taping.

    So for the second time within a decade, the Patriots have been called out for cheating. First time around, the coach lied to the commissioner, and now their QB refuses to cooperate with this investigation. Did Kraft expect leniency this time?

    Kraft needs to clean up his own house before going after NFL. If he had taken care of that back during spygate, he wouldn’t be going through this a second time.

  5. Kraft should go nuclear. There is no clear cut proof. Call Greg Glassman and get his 80 lawyers from Crossfit.

    I’m amazed the word integrity keeps getting matched up with the NFL.

    Even the WWE takes cares better care of former employees than the NFL

  6. So much for the Patriots legacy. The repeated transgressing of the rules, and interference with investigations into them is how that franchise will be remembered.

  7. If the NFL backs down when Kraft threatens or does sue, what kind of precedent does that set for future violations? The harder Kraft pushes, the harder the NFL has to push back. Otherwise all teams will have to do is threaten to sue the NFL and the penalty will lessen.

  8. No MVP, no raise banner on Pittsburgh opener. Wait until first home game Brady is back.

  9. floratiotime says:
    May 12, 2015 9:24 AM
    I bet the NFL wishes they didn’t cover up the Spygate scandal now.

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    LOL, I know plenty of fellow colts fans that wear tinfoil hats too. what losers…

  10. Kraft is an owner and will play nice in the end. The owners are a club. The damage of a lawsuit by a member of the club would be catastrophic for their relationships. Won’t happen.

    I would find it hard to believe that Brady would want to get on the stand and testify and open himself up to the process of discovery and deposition. If so, why didn’t he just answer the questions and show the investigator his cell phone records in the first place.

  11. A nice precedent during the appeal would be for the NFL to increase the fine to 10 mm and Tommy’s suspension increased to one year.

    Whacha all think about that?

  12. The Patriots got off SOOOO lightly. I can’t believe they’d even think of filing an appeal. Brady off four games without pay, which just about covers the Patriots fine, and two draft picks, neither of whom was likely to make the team anyway. I think their “outrage” is a huge put-on. I think they’re secretly thanking the football gods that it wasn’t much, much worse.

  13. I think Kraft should sue the league under every precedent he has at his disposal, regardless of the odds of success. He should air every piece of dirty laundry in league history, humiliate each and every league official publicly. Force them to testify under oath and expose their agenda of persecution.

  14. San Francisco… prepare for earthquakes. Behind closed doors in this owners meeting heads are going to roll.

  15. Wow. The NFL bad boys, Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder,take one for the team for something that truly wasn’t against the rules. Now, after his golden boy gets caught cheating, Robert Kraft is going to go all Al Davis on everybody. Who saw that coming?

  16. Please take this to court, then both sides will have subpoena power and can compel testimony. Lets see if the Pats deflated in other games too, and make it official. The penalties were specific to the single game. Let’s air this all out (pun intended) and then the Pats can get another suspension for the rest of the games they were cheating in.

  17. Blow it up Krafty! When the dust settles maybe we at least get rid of the overpaid and incompetent Goodell!

  18. gronkasaurus says:
    May 12, 2015 9:30 AM
    “what kind of precedent does that set for future violations? ”

    I think it would set a precedent that if you’re to punish a team this severely you should have ample proof. You should allow a team to provide a defense.

    I think it would set a precedent that the league should follow its own rules in terms of leaking information about investigations during the investigation. Greg Bedard posted said rules and yet I still haven’t heard about that investigation.

  19. floratiotime says:

    May 12, 2015 9:24 AM

    I bet the NFL wishes they didn’t cover up the Spygate scandal now.
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    How did they cover it up? A record fine and taking a 1st round pick wasn’t good enough?

    Still butt hurt because the tapes never went public? I’ll never understand the desire to see the tapes. It was a bunch of boring footage of a camera pointed at a defensive coordinator.

  20. Full speed ahead Bob.

    The league has no proof of tampering, and has ignored punishing other teams where they have proof of tampering.

    This is the Leagues answer to parity since the Patriots have overcome all other areas the League has in place to create parity.

    Roger Goodell needs to go, incompetent loser on almost everything that has crossed his desk…

  21. Let’s see what happens next time a player on any other team does something wrong.

    Goodell says the Patriots should have known what was going on and termed it “organizational control”.

    Next time a player on another team breaks the rules, I want to see if there are draft choices taken away.

    That team should have known what that player was doing. Obviously, they lost their “organizational control”.

  22. He’s probably meeting with lawyers to decide.

    But those penalties for a team which was exonerated is far over the top.

    This because McNally didn’t come down for a fifth meeting? Apparently he agreed to a phone interview but wells said no

  23. Last two sb champions, pats and seahawks…

    One team had been caught cheating multiple times, the other admitted to cheating, and the NFL has done their own part in getting these teams to the top for its own gain.

  24. This is all that needs to be emphasized.

    It is clear and to the point. One small paragraph, based directly on the Wells report.

    According to the memory of the head referee, the Patriots footballs lost 1.01 psi of pressure, on average, by halftime. According to the calculations of every scientist, including those hired by Mr. Wells, footballs naturally lose 1.13 psi of pressure just by cooling from 71 degrees to 48 degrees. How is it that footballs untouched by human hands would be down 1.13 psi in pressure, and at the same time, footballs that were supposedly tampered with were down by approximately the same amount, or even a little bit LESS?

    Will one single Patriots basher answer that question?

  25. Step 1. Do a disservice to the league by cheating and covering up.
    Step 2. Make the situation worse by complaining and whining about the punishment you deserve to get.
    Step 3. Give the NFL badge a black eye by appealing and suing.

  26. I don’t understand why the Patriots as a team are getting penalized since the report said that no one else off the team was involved. Roger is just on a major power trip trying to please the fans of the 31 other teams. He hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing.

  27. Roger better get a police escort if he plans on going to New England for the opening game of the season. Don’t be surprised to see every ball intercepted by the Pats to be measured and brought to the official’s attention… or they could just skip the official and go straight to the league (like the Colts) and be a total pain their arse, every single game.

  28. butwhatabouttheintegrityofthegame says:
    May 12, 2015 9:31 AM
    Pats will still win the AFC
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    good for them. the last time they did that legitimately was 1986

  29. I agree that Kraft should pursue any legal action that he can. But I doubt there is much he can do. It will be Brady who will have to sue the league. And the NFL is such a farce, Brady has a very good chance of winning.

  30. Kraft and his NE chronies still think the rules don’t apply to them. Go back and sit in your little baby high chair short guy. The other 31 owners are laughing at you. Keep crying, it won’t change a thing. Cheaters get punished plain & simple.

  31. If there are suspicions to be cast toward the Patriots, there are plenty more to be cast toward the NFL front office. Too many holes in the Wells report, which to me reads like a document created with a foregone conclusion.

    Plus, if the report says ownership, front office and coaches didn’t know about the alleged tampering which may have occurred, how can they levy such huge penalties against the team?

    My guess is that Goodell was expecting a much more damning report from Wells when all he could deliver was a limp “there is no evidence so we’ll say this probably happened” conclusion.

    This whole thing is a ridiculous mess.

    I’ll also posit this: the only text in the report which mentions a specific PSI talks about Patriots game balls being at 16 psi the day after a Jets game. The text implies that this was done by the refs.

    So the best evidence the investigation turned up was that the Pats played one game with overinflated balls, and this was done on purpose by the refs against a bitter league rival.

    How is THAT not a huge issue for anyone? The refs tampered with equipment on behalf of one team – the team, incidentally, that Goodell and Kensil used to work for. Does that not represent a scandal to make deflategate seem meaningless in the scheme of things?

    Hey, I’m all for punishing those who break the rules. I just don’t think the Wells report represents any kind of actual evidence of tampering. It calls its findings inconclusive then subjectively pins wrongdoing on the Patriots for something for which there is only speculation and assumption.

    To me that’s a whole load of BS, and it shows how biased and tainted this whole thing has been from day one.

  32. If this thing eventually gets Goodell fired, the Brady suspension and all the bad press will be worth it, even to the most die hard Patriots fan.
    Worst.
    Commissioner.
    Ever.

  33. I bet the NFL wishes they didn’t cover up the Spygate scandal now.

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    you don’t think Belichick kept a copy?

    when the world finds out that the league buried definitive proof that many teams were cheating (it’s the biggest reason they don’t want teams filming), then the ‘integrity of the game’ will be completely destroyed

    of course the haters will just cry ‘sour grapes’

  34. The only person who should be suing is Tom Benson. In his team’s peak, they were stripped of a chance to compete because “ignorance is no excuse”. The double standard is clearly rooted in the fact that Kraft, not Benson, controls Goodel’s paycheck. The Pats got off light and Benson should be livid. So too should the other 29 owners who don’t control the commish’s compensation.

    SMH

  35. Even if Kraft were to sue, the standard of proof for the court would be the same one used in the Wells report, “more probable than not”. In order to have a chance, the team would have to prove it was more probable than not that they completely cooperated with the league’s investigation, since the punishment was for that more than it was for the actual deflation of balls. Since they admitted they didn’t feel the need to produce McNally for another interview, I believe that they would fail to meet that low standard.

  36. the most awesome thing about my pats is that provided how they operate, you’d have to be a total moron to not realize that they likely have dirt on every opponent

    given the manner in which the league processed this situation, don’t be angry when your favorite team gets put in the spotlight

  37. Hmmm,,,

    Roger should have put the names of the other 31 owners in a hat, drew out 5, and said.. “you come up with a punishment.”

    They want to police themselves…? Then here’s the chance to prove it.

  38. rob471773 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:39 AM
    floratiotime says:

    May 12, 2015 9:24 AM

    I bet the NFL wishes they didn’t cover up the Spygate scandal now.
    ——————————-
    How did they cover it up? A record fine and taking a 1st round pick wasn’t good enough?

    Still butt hurt because the tapes never went public? I’ll never understand the desire to see the tapes. It was a bunch of boring footage of a camera pointed at a defensive coordinator.

    ************************************************
    One last time for the people that just don’t like to gather the facts…

    The tapes played on a constant loop for all the world to see at the press conference. If anyone wanted to see them they could have.

  39. This is the beginning of the end for Roger Goodell.

    Kraft helped Goodell even get his job in the first place and very publicly supported Goodell after he screwed the pooch on the Ray Rice suspension.

    Now Goodell has crossed the most powerful owner in the sport who will make every effort to undercut Goodell and eventually force him out of office.

  40. I heard Kraft is considering taking his deflated balls and starting his own league.

  41. Why does everyone ignore the fact that the scientific evidence, especially when combined with Walt Anderson’s testimony, concludes that no footballs were tampered with between referee inspection and halftime of the AFC championship game? By Ted Wells intentionally ignoring it, he was able to come up with his civil law standard of “more probable than not”. which fit the NFL’s predetermined agenda. If that evidence was not ignored, the finding would have to be “not probable that” the footballs were tampered with. The NFL does not want this case before a neutral arbiter, judge or jury because their case will be torn to shreds. If the case stays in house and the Patriots penalties are not reduced substantially, he should have a lawsuit ready to go. This should also be used as leverage if the process stays in house. Then there is the other theory floating around. Goodell and the league came down particularly hard on the Patriots to try to change public perception about Goodell being soft on crime. Goodell then steers the case to a neutral arbiter and the Patriots penalties are significantly reduced. Goodell then can claim he is not soft anymore. Goodell gets to reshape his image as tough, but the Patriots are not harmed by the original outrageous penalties.

  42. Of course he needs to appeal. The Wells Report, even though it is a complete piece of garbage, clearly stated that the team and the staff had nothing to do with the thing that the investigation couldn’t prove happened. How is it then that you fine the team and take draft picks if you find that they had no involvement?

    And yes, this whole debacle does set a dangerous precedent that you can convict and punish a team based on no hard evidence that anything wrong was done. You can punish them based on shoddy investigating, half-truths and things taken out of context. You think the other 31 teams want to allow that standard to be set? Not at all. I think Kraft would have their support if he decided to take action against this, and he absolutely should

  43. Good, sue! Then we could have the NFL attorneys enter the discovery phase… let the subpoenas on Brady’s information rain on down.

  44. Question for lawyer Florio: legally speaking, in the event of an appeal by Brady or the Patriots to whichever relevant court system, is it possible that Brady’s electronic records could still be subpoenaed? If so, and if the smoking gun is actually there in his phone/emails, do the Patriots not have a vested interest in letting this die a peaceful death? Conversely, if there is nothing incriminating in Brady’s electronic devices, why not bring them forth now to save himself and the team/owner?

  45. The Wells report should have been focused on…

    “What if anything went wrong in the handling of the footballs?” and “How can it be improved to assure the integrity of the game.”

    But I have to agree with Florio on this one.. more than a little of this sounds like a witch hunt.

    But if there was this witch hunt… it bring up the question.. Why? Who? For what gain?

  46. Hopefully the NFL quarterly meetings will be an opportunity for the silent majority of NFL owners to finally speak up and exert their own frustrations and disappointment over the cozy relationship that a small number of owners have had with Goodell. Other teams have been hit hard by Goodell’s punishments/suspensions and Kraft has always been there to vocally support Goodell but now that it is his beloved Pats, he wants to go Al Davis on the NFL…………..what a jerk. If the NFL wants to protect the shield and the integrity of the game for all fans, it needs to come down hard on teams that cheat etc. It has happened to teams like the Ravens, Panthers, Vikings and Saints so why not teams like the Pats and Seahawks. I am sick and tired of teams getting off because of technicalities like a cracked cup of a urine samplle, which needle was used to check air pressure, etc. etc. Enough of the technicalities, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck……….that’s good enough. This is not a criminal case of murder which only requires reasonable doubt, it is a duck case……….preponderance of the evidence.

  47. I’ll also posit this: the only text in the report which mentions a specific PSI talks about Patriots game balls being at 16 psi the day after a Jets game. The text implies that this was done by the refs.

    So the best evidence the investigation turned up was that the Pats played one game with overinflated balls, and this was done on purpose by the refs against a bitter league rival.

    How is THAT not a huge issue for anyone? The refs tampered with equipment on behalf of one team – the team, incidentally, that Goodell and Kensil used to work for. Does that not represent a scandal to make deflategate seem meaningless in the scheme of things?

    More people need to be talking about this.

  48. Research the patriots fumbling data. Look at the amazing decrease in fumbling rate beginning in 2007. The cheating hoodie knows the “hidden advantage” to deflating balls – to reduce his team’s fumbling rate! Cheaters been cheating for years.

  49. skooter519 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:42 AM

    I don’t understand why the Patriots as a team are getting penalized since the report said that no one else off the team was involved. Roger is just on a major power trip trying to please the fans of the 31 other teams. He hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing.
    **************
    Three Patriots employees were implicated. They are part of the Patriots organization. That’s why the Patriots are being penalized. The lack of cooperation is probably another.

  50. The danger for the league with an appeal is partly the shoddy Wells report, which is a farce, particularly the “scientific evidence” that Brown absurdly praised yesterday. (Also does any one wonder why NONE of Brady’s five hours of testimony was included?) They might shake some new info from the trees in discovery (a danger for the Pats), but that works both ways. Wells clearly went out of his way to cover for the league here. Kraft thinks, and he is right to, that the League worked with hostile teams to entrap the Pats (rather than act as a neutral arbiter and head the whole issue off at the pass). If elements in Park Avenue are setting up stings with teams against other teams, that is a far bigger threat to the integrity of the league than equipment violations.

    Journalists, including Florio, need to get on this. It may be that the Pats are guilty (though the indignation over this is hilariously overblown). It may also be that the League is acting recklessly and with bias. The latter story is not one Goodell wants aired. If Kraft goes nuclear, it is because his anger over the League’s scheming trumps his worry over the unpredictibility of a lawsuit.

  51. wildwest74 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:52 AM
    Even if Kraft were to sue, the standard of proof for the court would be the same one used in the Wells report, “more probable than not”. In order to have a chance, the team would have to prove it was more probable than not that they completely cooperated with the league’s investigation, since the punishment was for that more than it was for the actual deflation of balls. Since they admitted they didn’t feel the need to produce McNally for another interview, I believe that they would fail to meet that low standard.

    ———–
    So in the Wells report there is a section on the pressure gauges. Florio covered this over the weekend, but essentially the report states that referee Walt Anderson told Wells that to the best of his recollection he had used the lower reading gauge prior to the game. If indeed true all of the Patriots balls would have fallen into an acceptable range based on the science.

    What is more probable or not – that the gauge that was used was the one that Anderson believes was used, or the one that Wells chose to use to make his flawed case?

    If this were to go to court where Anderson is under oath how do you think a judge would rule on it?

  52. Goodell makes $44 MILLION dollars a year and still can’t come up with a competent system to discipline teams and players, one that would involve a neutral third party panel that he was not even part of. Instead it arbitrary and capricious like Roger’s track record on most everything.

    Dude is clueless and the owners that allow this dog and pony show to continue have to be held responsible if it all blows up in their faces.

  53. The Wells Report says that the Patriots’ lawyers brought up a number things that the Wells team deemed inconsequential. Could it be that the Patriots’ lawyers advised the Patriots to stop cooperating because they felt it was a one-sided investigation?

    Question is, did the Wells team really take a hard look at the NFL offices…..ask for their emails and phones too to confirm what they were assuming?

  54. So the Wells report says ‘the locker room attendant might have, but might not have, done something to the footballs. But if he did, and we don’t know if he did or didn’t, Tom Brady may or may not have known what the locker attendant might or might not have done’.

    Do I have that correct?

    As for Brady turning over personal records to the NFL, I’ll just go by what Ron Jaworski said on his radio show here in Philly last night. ‘Absolutely no way I would turn my phone records over to the NFL.’ Why? ‘Because anything he provided would have been dismissed or could be taken out of context. Plus, the NFL has proven it can’t keep anything confidential’. (Paraphrasing.)

    Personally, I’m all for punishing cheaters but there has to be some proof. And there isn’t here.

  55. No argument on Goodell and his justice system but a) the system isn’t dependent on how much money he makes and b) that isn’t the point here. Most people, fans and owners alike, think this punishment is righteous. Sorry Pats nation, we do, and it isn’t because of jealousy, it is because we’re sick of cheating. Outright cheating. Bending the rules whatever you want to call it. So this is the right call. 90% of the world isn’t a Pats fan, and 70% of those folks think this is the right thing. So for Kraft to continue to legalese his way out of this? THAT is what destroys the league, not the discipline system. Because you set the rules. You don’t follow them. And then when you don’t like the outcome you go to lawyers. Makes me sick.

  56. The Patriots were given ever opportunity to clear their name and they failed. Any appeal by the team reflects a deep arrogance and total disregard for the damage the Patriot organization has done to the NFL.
    The NFL punishes players and teams in an attempt to protect the shield. As pointed out many times ,this is an employer internal investigation,not a court of law or C.S.I. The balls went into the locked bathroom and came out under inflated. The employees involved in this are basically banned for life. Kraft has gone back on his word and now is not excepting the punishment for the crime. He thought the league would fold like a cheap lawn chair and not dare do any thing to the all great and powerful Patriots. The Patriots should accept this and move on . I’m one fan tired of these Patriots,very tired.

  57. If this gets to a court, the judge will take the Well’s Report and reissue it as Toilet Paper. You sheep will be sad again.

  58. Don’t worry patsie fans Goodell WILL cave in & give the by GOD patsies, the darlings of the NFL a reduced fine & Brady will probably only miss 2 games!!! Can’t tarnish his relationship with the might Kraft so they can BUY another super bowl together!!!

  59. Can someone let the rest of us know (if anyone knows for certain), but wasn’t Bob Kraft one of the owners who kept Dan Snyder (and to a lesser extent Jerry Jones) from employing the nuclear option when the Redskins and Cowboys where hit with cap penalties? How is this different in that this is supposed to be what is best for the league?

  60. Good! Kraft stood with Goodell even as he overstated the spygate thing, hiding that others did the same thing forever.
    The Patriots shouldn’t be hit with a money fine and draft picks IF Brady ordered inderinflated balls, which the league doesn’t even come close to proving. Sue the league!

  61. Goodell and his punishments are a complete joke; tamper and sign one of the best players in the league ($100K), knockout your fiancé (two games), pump in noise during games ($350,000 and a 5th round pick in 2016).

    After reading the entire Wells report the league has zero evidence of the Pats cheating. It seems excessive for conjecture.

    I hope Kraft goes Michael Corleone on Goodell!

  62. If Brady is in truth innocent, why not bring forth his cell phone now to forensics and clear not only his name, but the team? Why not say, “Ok, this has gone way too far. Here is my cell phone. Do what you must to clear my teammates, my coach, and my owner?

    Can anyone think of ONE good reason why not?

  63. All this speculation and amateur scientific/legal commentary is hilarious. This is really simple. Patriots cheated! Got caught! Got punished!

  64. the Wells team assumed all balls from both teams were tested pre-game using the same gauge. Says who?

    Just because the Colts’ balls testing numbers work well if the non-logo gauge was used on them, doesn’t mean that same gauge was used on the Patriots’ balls.

    Even during the halftime testing it appears the testers switched gauges. This could easily have happened during the pre-game testing.

    If you read the report closely, Wells’ conclusion that the non-logo gauge was used pre-game (instead of the logo gauge as Walt Anderson recalls) is based on the data in Exponent’s report, but Exponent’s report says that it appears the non-logo gauge was used pre-game because it matches the Colts’ numbers and confirms other information provided by the Wells team (of course, there is no mention of what that other data is.)

    Circular logic at it’s finest.

  65. I won’t be surprised if they sue. Remember, they play by their own set of rules, that’s how they got in this mess in the first place.

  66. I think it’s interesting to read the comments – most of which are negative to the Patriots and Brady – but all of those getting primarily downvotes.

    That’s what it’s come to for Patriot fans. They don’t have logic on their side. Their best “argument” is childish – “so what?” “Haters gonna hate”. “You hate us because you ain’t us”.

    Not – “we didn’t cheat.”

    Yep – they are all reduced to defending cheating a downvoting posts that call them out.

    Four SB titles. All tainted by fans of 31 other teams. But of course all those fans must be wrong.

  67. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PATRIOTS SAYING THEY WOULD EXCEPT ANY PUNISHMENT HANDED DOWN ? ONCE AGAIN THEY LIED, AND YOU CAN’T TRUST ANYTHING ABOUT THEM!

  68. I bet the NFL wishes they didn’t attempt to hide the ray rice video either! Don’t forget TMZ broke that one lol. Goodell is in for a fight. Be surprised if he lasts 1 year from now

  69. Go old school Al Davis on them Bob ‘the sneaker’
    Kraft. Bring down this out of control commissioner who is trying to make up for all his blunders by screwing the Pats. FREE TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!

  70. On the good side, this may finally be the beginning of the end of Goodel’s reign as commissioner.

  71. I have a radical idea. Don’t cheat, don’t employ cheaters and just follow the rules. All of you everyone else does it sound like my kids when they get in trouble. It doesn’t matter until you get caught.

    Up Votes 64 Down Votes 125
    __________________________________

    How is it anyone could down vote this thought? It doesn’t say the Pats or Brady cheated, it only says “don’t cheat, don’t employ cheaters and just follow the rules”. The fact that 125 people and counting would suggest that as a bad idea just shows how the fan base in Boston think. A bunch of cheaters. At first I disagreed with the sentiment by some that Kraft should be forced to sell…but based on this, I am starting to agree that Boston is not a place that should have a NFL team. LA Patriots?

  72. hawks52 says:
    May 12, 2015 10:37 AM

    That’s what it’s come to for Patriot fans. They don’t have logic on their side

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    actually, it’s quite the opposite. we do have logic on our side, but most people think that the Wells Report assumptions, and therefore conclusions, are factual. They are not, they are speculation, at best.

    It would be nice to sit here and have a discussion of the specific items in the report, and why they don’t add up, but no…..all we here are “cheaters, liars, history of cheating, culture of cheating, 4 tainted titles. It is people like you that don’t want to actually debate the results of the report….you just say it’s true because that is what you want to believe.

  73. Those aren’t astetisks. It’s the sparkle from all our damn rings.

    You guys know this and the stupid spy gate garbage didn’t win all of those games, but it’s easier to cry foul than work harder and actually beat them on the field.

    If all of this cheating was going on, wouldn’t former players we cut, traded etc. be lining up to blow the whistle? Instead they say Bill is the most prepared coach and the Patriots work hard.

  74. That sham fumble report!!!!!……the patriots FUMBLED FAR LESS ON THE ROAD THAN AT HOME EVERY YEAR SINCE 2007

  75. Right or wrong, before the 24 hr. news cycle and its demand for constant content, this story would have been a blip on the last page of the sports section.

  76. Al Davis.

    Brady hindered the investigation. Similar to obstruction of justice.

    Kraft and Goodell look like they have their hands in each other’s back pockets in that photo.

  77. Sitting in the witness chair:
    NFL lawyer: Mr Belicheck, Do you consistently seek some competitive advantage by bending the rules?
    Mr. Belicheck: I will take the fifth on that question.
    Nfl lawyer: Do you manipulate the injury report to gain a competitive advantage?
    Mr. Belicheck: The fifth amendment rights again.
    NFL lawyer: Are you aware of all the rumored allegations of cheating by your team?
    Mr Belicheck: (In best Sgt Schultz voice) I know noooooooooothing.

  78. Kraft is digging his own grave.

    If he sues the league over this, ownership will boot him from their ranks in a heartbeat.

    Meantime, McNally is taking offers for his tell all story. Should be interesting.

  79. “The fact that 125 people and counting would suggest that as a bad idea just shows how the fan base in Boston think. A bunch of cheaters.”

    All these downvotes are proving the point that the Patriot fans have no rational argument.

    The Patriots cheated – got caught – and the fans say “so what! We won the Super Bowl and your team didn’t”.

    Are there ANY mature Patriot fans? (Cue the downvotes! Cmon guys – I deserve at least 100 of them!)

  80. “actually, it’s quite the opposite. we do have logic on our side, but most people think that the Wells Report assumptions, and therefore conclusions, are factual. They are not, they are speculation, at best.”

    This is exactly what I mean. You are taking lack of proof as innocence. Ignore the report’s flaws (and there are many.” Those are technicalities that can get someone off in a court of law. Which in NO way means it didn’t happen.

    One fact alone makes a logical person realize what’s been happening?

    Why did the guy call himself the deflater?

  81. The NFL has made a joke of themselves and I for one think Kraft should stand up to them. The Patriots should now officially appoint themselves the “Integrity champions of the League” from now on and report on EVERY discrepancy they see from

    – Vaseline on Uniforms – Broncos
    – Stick-em – Jerry Rice
    – Soft Footballs
    – Noise – Falcons
    Lets report and review everything and see where the real truth lies, I”d hand every football in for testing, every single one, be interesting to see the results wouldn’t it?

    Also, why shouldn’t Kraft sue? The NFL IMO has committed Libel and defamation of character based on circumstantial evidence and weakened the value of his team. If I’m Kraft I want my day in court to restore that based on factual evidence.

    With the leaks coming out of the NFL office on a daily basis I wouldn’t hand my phone over either. Do you really think they wouldn’t go through Brady’s contacts and potentially compromise several High profile personal numbers? I’m quite sure its a who’s who list.

  82. Forget the Wells Report: All anyone needed to see was the text messages showing gifts for rule breaking;

    STOP CHEATING.

    Its not that hard.

  83. It’s weird how this website fluctuates from thumbing up pro-patriot comments a lot to thumbing up anti-patriot comments a lot, depending on the article. Are there a bunch of Patriot vote bots that go around and vote things up/down or something?

  84. You built it all by yourself. Own it, embrace it, take accountability for your culture of deceit and win at any cost nature.

    Maybe a partial payment just became due. Stand up and take it like men. The incessant crying is embarrassing. When you breed and raise an organization that blurs the lines between right and wrong, you’re bound to do wrong and think it’s right.

    Face it, you lost and you’re just prolonging the pain.

  85. guess what haters?

    you know what Goodell’s battine average is for issues once the leave Park Avenue?

    .000

    guess what’s leaving Park Avenue?

    go Pats! screw the haters! go back to your rust-belt wormhole

  86. willgrove80 says: May 12, 2015 11:27 AM

    Show me one person that IS NOT A PATRIOTS FAN that says they didnt cheat….

    CRICKETS.
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    Show me one person that IS NOT A PATRIOTS FAN that believes their team has never cheated….

    CRICKETS.

  87. willgrove80 says:
    May 12, 2015 11:25 AM
    Forget the Wells Report: All anyone needed to see was the text messages showing gifts for rule breaking;

    STOP CHEATING.

    Its not that hard.

    Merchandise is given out by every star player to equipment folks ALL THE TIME. It is no indication of cheating. None it is common practice. This is one of the reasons the report is skewed.

    Also, have you never had an email or text message misconstrued or misread? You can’t definitively tell what a persons tone was or there true intent. Again skewed report

    Why weren’t the interviews published? Where’s Brady’s, McNally, Bellicheck’s interviews and answers? Seems if you want to be complete and thorough you might publish those unless they don’t help make your case and you want to Skew a report.

    Ridiculous – Show me the facts and not your well maybe did…You don’t tarnish Franchises, careers, and YOUR LEAGUE on a maybe. Thats just stupid and why this is ridiculous.

    And while where at it whats the NFL’s plan to take care of footballs in the future? Oh no talk of that? No reason to make the procedures better or more secure? Gee you would think they might want to do that?

  88. Are there ANY mature Patriot fans? (Cue the downvotes! Cmon guys – I deserve at least 100 of them!)

    Maybe because we are all sick of arguing w dumb hawk fans who would believe anything if it means the pats are guilty and who can’t see past their own teams transgressions and want to point the finger at other clubs.

    Why did the guy call himself the deflater?

    That text was in May 2014.

    The HOME jets game was in October. The balls in that game are documented at being 16 PSI. If he was deflating balls how could that have ever happened? Also, JASTREMSKI SAYS THE BALLS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE 13 NOT 16! Why would he say that if Brady wanted them at 12?

    Explain that one SB 49 Losers

  89. Why did the guy call himself the deflater?
    ===
    Because it was his job to deflate footballs prior to giving them to the officials. Wasn’t that what he said?

  90. You have to ask yourself, why was bill untouched yet again in this farce? I’ll tell you why, the same reason he wasn’t touched during spygate. Bill knows about every other teams cheating ways and he told goodell back in 07 that if he got in trouble he would have a press conference where he detailed what EVERY OTHER TEAM in the league is doing wrong. I really hope he ends up doing this so that all you crybabies talking about integrity will realize that your team does the same stuff. There is game checks involved for making the post season. Do any of you honestly think that the players and coaches won’t do anything necessary to get there? Look at what players will do for a few extra bucks on their contracts! The Patriots fell on the sword in 07 and kept their mouths shut, and all they got in return is 8 years of morons yelling spygate. So just remember that when it comes out that your team cheated, you all have only yourselves to blame

  91. What would Kraft get from suing the NFL?

    All he’d be doing is losing money and making another lawyer’s pockets deep.

    Kraft has to understand that the NFL will pay for its lawyers to defend itself by using Patriots (and 31 other teams) profit, right?

    And once the NFL start cutting into the profits of the 31 other owners, Kraft loses even more political capital.

    It’s a losing battle.

  92. Why did the guy call himself the deflater?

    ———

    follow me here……Walt Anderson said he hadn’t lost sight of the footballs in 19 years, and numerous other officials said they hadn’t either. but because McNally calls himself the deflater, Wells decides he deflated balls? When, the officials never lose sight of them? Did they watch him do it?

    Answer that question!

  93. the punishment is based on a report that make no common sense let alone legal sense if you bothered to read it before you decided the patriots guilt or innocence. this whole case was designed to get the patriots , because people like the idiotic haters above wrote roger emails threatening to stop watching football if the patriots winning wasn’t stop . if you can’t beat them on the field send roger an email he’ll help you losers out .

  94. hawks52 says:
    May 12, 2015 11:13 AM

    This is exactly what I mean. You are taking lack of proof as innocence. Ignore the report’s flaws (and there are many.” Those are technicalities that can get someone off in a court of law. Which in NO way means it didn’t happen.

    ———-

    which also in NO way means it happened.

    you are taking lack of proof as guilt.

  95. I’m a Brady fan. He was clearly secretive and deceptive about his knowledge of what was going on. Why deny even knowing the ball boy? Whatever they were doing could not have been without his knowledge and most likely orders.

    Honestly had he took responsibility and said hey I wanted the ball as low as we could get em” they may have taken it too far that’s on me. Fine $25-50 and maybe a game suspension at worse. You start hiding stuff protecting the brand denying interviews. They are going to hit you hard.
    The Pats also were not fully cooperative if a control freak like Belichick ordered the players too cooperate fully there is no way the kicker is refusing to turn over his phone. That why they got hit hard too.

  96. Wells report did nothing but confuse things! You could conclude that there was no deflated balls at all depending on which gauge was used to measure air pressure.

    And if you decide that it is likely that Patriots deflated the balls, then what do you do about the four Colts balls found deflated? Is the league going to investigate the Colts?

  97. the Well Report is like a house of cards. the foundation is unstable, and they built a skyscraper on top of it.

  98. tke743 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:37 AM

    Please take this to court, then both sides will have subpoena power and can compel testimony. Lets see if the Pats deflated in other games too, and make it official. The penalties were specific to the single game. Let’s air this all out (pun intended) and then the Pats can get another suspension for the rest of the games they were cheating in.
    —————————————————-
    Or maybe the court finds them innocent and all haters can suck it! HAHAHAHA

  99. Goodell had very little choice but not really a tough call in deciding on a penalty. He either penalizes the offending team harshly and gets 1 owner mad, or penalizes them too lightly and gets 31 owners angry at him.

  100. rainsarge says:May 12, 2015 12:02 PM

    I’m a Brady fan. He was clearly secretive and deceptive about his knowledge of what was going on. Why deny even knowing the ball boy? Whatever they were doing could not have been without his knowledge and most likely orders.

    Honestly had he took responsibility and said hey I wanted the ball as low as we could get em” they may have taken it too far that’s on me. Fine $25-50 and maybe a game suspension at worse. You start hiding stuff protecting the brand denying interviews. They are going to hit you hard.
    The Pats also were not fully cooperative if a control freak like Belichick ordered the players too cooperate fully there is no way the kicker is refusing to turn over his phone. That why they got hit hard too.

    ______________

    This is probably the most mature and honest response I have seen yet, and it means more coming from a Brady fan. I agree, the report cannot completely prove what happened regading the deflation, but Brady’s actions, and the actions of the Patriots AFTER the fact, are what is driving the severity of the punishment.

    I just wish more of the talking heads and screaming fans on both side would realize this.

  101. Bluejay89 – Are the owners really satisfied with this? What’s your expertise on that? If I’m an owner, I’m concerned that I am now at the mercy or any political whim or agenda the NFL sees fit without proof. Not a comfortable feeling if you ask me.

    Also, don’t the 2 different pressure readings prove there is a margin or error with reading the pressure of a football? What is it? +/- .5, +/- 1.o? What is it and why the Patriots being held to a reading that has a clear margin of error?

    Let me ask this, if the Footballs weren’t under the limit or within a margin of error would this report even be relevant? Text messages or not?

    Of course not – This is why they didn’t focus on that, it doesn’t help there case and makes the NFL look bad.

  102. Bluejay89 – Are the owners really satisfied with this? What’s your expertise on that? If I’m an owner, I’m concerned that I am now at the mercy or any political whim or agenda the NFL sees fit without proof. Not a comfortable feeling if you ask me.

  103. Also, don’t the 2 different pressure readings prove there is a margin or error with reading the pressure of a football? What is it? +/- .5, +/- 1.o? What is it and why the Patriots being held to a reading that has a clear margin of error?

    Let me ask this, if the Footballs weren’t under the limit or within a margin of error would this report even be relevant? Text messages or not?

    Of course not – This is why they didn’t focus on that, it doesn’t help there case and makes the NFL look bad.

  104. wildwest74 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:52 AM

    Even if Kraft were to sue, the standard of proof for the court would be the same one used in the Wells report, “more probable than not”. In order to have a chance, the team would have to prove it was more probable than not that they completely cooperated with the league’s investigation, since the punishment was for that more than it was for the actual deflation of balls. Since they admitted they didn’t feel the need to produce McNally for another interview, I believe that they would fail to meet that low standard.
    __________________________________

    Your first comment about the standard of proof is right on, BUT everything else you said is utter garbage. First, in court, what would be allowed as evidence in the first place would be limited to facts, not speculation, so that alone could change the outcome greatly. They would not have used the ref’s second guess as which needle he probably used.

    Second, most people would consider producing a guy four times as cooperating, especially since they offered to produce him again over the phone.

  105. scrappler says: May 12, 2015 9:43 AM

    butwhatabouttheintegrityofthegame says:
    May 12, 2015 9:31 AM
    Pats will still win the AFC
    =======

    good for them. the last time they did that legitimately was 1986
    ****
    Ha! I was gonna say if there is a cheating award they would win it hands down.

    Please go rouge Kraft. None have ever done it with any success. And you will come out looking even more of an ass hat digging your hole deeper.

  106. cubancigar10 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:32 AM

    A nice precedent during the appeal would be for the NFL to increase the fine to 10 mm and Tommy’s suspension increased to one year.

    Whacha all think about that?
    ————————————————————-
    I do agree with you that if you appeal any penalty the league should reserve the right to increase the penalty if they conclude it is warranted.

  107. You guys that can’t stop saying “they’re cheaters” need to do your homework on the NFL and on Goodell’s punishments that have been handed down.

    Kraft isn’t upset about being punished, in fact last week he said he’d accept whatever they had coming to them.

    He’s upset about the lack of proportionality. Falcons actually pump crowd noise into the stadium and get a slap on the wrist. Chargers get caught with Stickum on towels on the sideline and get…wait for it….a $25k fine. That’s it. Period. Stickum!! It’s been banned for decades, shouldn’t be any excuse whatsoever for it anywhere near an NFL field, yet they got nothing.

    And that is what has Kraft upset.

  108. 41chacha says: May 12, 2015 12:02 PM

    Wells report did nothing but confuse things! You could conclude that there was no deflated balls at all depending on which gauge was used to measure air pressure.

    And if you decide that it is likely that Patriots deflated the balls, then what do you do about the four Colts balls found deflated? Is the league going to investigate the Colts?
    ****
    They used 2 gauges with different standings. With a standard that is if one gauge reads in the legal range it is good. What is so hard to comprehend?

  109. 2manyconcussions says:
    May 12, 2015 9:31 AM
    Kraft is an owner and will play nice in the end. The owners are a club. The damage of a lawsuit by a member of the club would be catastrophic for their relationships. Won’t happen.

    I would find it hard to believe that Brady would want to get on the stand and testify and open himself up to the process of discovery and deposition. If so, why didn’t he just answer the questions and show the investigator his cell phone records in the first place.

    ____________________________________

    Clearly you’ve had 2manyconcussions. Brady made himself available and answered questions for an ENTIRE DAY.

  110. @james5252
    Also, don’t the 2 different pressure readings prove there is a margin or error with reading the pressure of a football? What is it? +/- .5, +/- 1.o? What is it and why the Patriots being held to a reading that has a clear margin of error?
    =====================================
    The problem with this statement as well as the so called “scientific evidence” is the rats have already admitted to the crime as well as being under the direction of new head cheater Tommy Boy Brady! And by not surrendering his cell phone to investigators and cooperating with the investigation, makes him look even more guilty. And why did the equipment personnel get fired? Hmmm, me thinks something stinks in New England, even more so than usual!

  111. Just take your punishment and continue on with your life. YOUR Players cheated… they have done it before. They were caught red-handed! Just face it… your organization will be forever known as the team of cheating liars in the NFL history books. The day you hired Coach Bill Belichick as your Head Coach is the day you began your “**rise to the top**”.

  112. @patswhatsup
    Brady made himself available and answered questions for an ENTIRE DAY.
    =====================================
    Didn’t give up that cell phone though, did he? You guys have to take the blinders off here. Gimme a break. The equipment guy has admitted to doing it and at Tom’s direction. Do you have to be hit by a bus just to prove that it hurts? Wake up dude!

  113. Falcons were allowed to cheat and all they got was a wrist slap.

    Think about it. The Falcons piped in noise when the other team was in the huddle and trying to call plays at the line of scrimmage and apparently everyone knew about it to for 2 yrs.

    The thing with the Pats seems a little ambiguous and iffy.

  114. tb12bestqbevah says: May 12, 2015 12:34 PM

    You guys that can’t stop saying “they’re cheaters” need to do your homework on the NFL and on Goodell’s punishments that have been handed down.
    =====================================
    I’ll be the first to admit that Goodell has screwed the pooch on past issues in regards to punishment. But it does NOT change the fact that they are in fact cheaters! How many times do they need to get caught before you guys stop living in the dark? And I’m sorry, but Kraft is a freaking pimp! He’s all ahead full in support of the commissioner in everything that he does until its his team in the cross hairs! Wake up man! Personnally, I think they got off extremely easy! Brady should just admit to what he did, and regardless of your opinion, he DID DO IT, and try and salvage whats left of his reputation! Whats the definition of insanity? It having know liars and cheater on your team but always expecting them to tell you the truth! Come on man!

  115. The nfl is in the wrong here. I’m not a patriots fan, but they have every right to attack the wells report. This is even more ridiculous than the Mitchell report in baseball. Mark Cuban was right about the nfl, I don’t see this going away without a lot of people going down. Mlb has had its fair share of scandals, this is going to get good.

  116. =====================================
    >Didn’t give up that cell phone though, did he? You guys >have to take the blinders off here. Gimme a break. The >equipment guy has admitted to doing it and at Tom’s >direction. Do you have to be hit by a bus just to prove that >it hurts? Wake up dude!

    Did he though? This is the issue, separate the report from the facts. He says and infers he deflated footballs, yes I agree. But can you know he deflated them below 12.5? Does it say that? Or is that what Wells is speculating?

    And with the pressure readings being so far off, isn’t there any reasonable doubt?

  117. This was a very necessary step for the evolution of the NFL. The perception of the league has clearly degraded over the past few seasons, but the powerful owners have been tight with the commish.

    Now that Goodell has spanked Jerry Jones, Daniel Snyder, and Robert Kraft; his support from the powerful owners has reached a tipping point and there is a consensus building that it’s time to move on from Goodell.

    The league needs new leadership in order to put this era of cheating, drug use, and domestic violence behind them.

  118. The Patriots punishment may seem harsh, but they basically just traded a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick, and $1 million cash for a Super Bowl title. That really isn’t much to add another trophy to the case; which is why I have been saying this wasn’t the first time and won’t be the last time the Patriots cheat.

  119. I think Kraft should sue……and the NFL should exhibit the same urgency that it did in the Delfategate proceedings.

    Meaning that they should render a decision on the appeal about their draft picks about 2 or 3 weeks after next years draft, and maybe around Thanksgiving for Tom’s suspension.

    That’ll learn ’em.

  120. bigdaddy44 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:56 AM
    ‘Why does everyone ignore the fact that the scientific evidence, especially when combined with Walt Anderson’s testimony, concludes that no footballs were tampered with between referee inspection and halftime of the AFC championship game? By Ted Wells intentionally ignoring it, he was able to come up with his civil law standard of “more probable than not”. which fit the NFL’s predetermined agenda. If that evidence was not ignored, the finding would have to be “not probable that” the footballs were tampered with.”

    Add to that the fact that one of the text messages talks about how the refs inflated a ball before a Jets game that was still 16 PSI the next morning…..the ‘deflator’ did a lousy job if the ball measured that high 24 hours later!

  121. Or, or the Pats will just do what the Colts, Jets and Ravens did. Go to the league with dirt on other teams.

    It’s there, in all 32 locker rooms and front offices. Just need to look. Just like deflated footballs, anyone ever think that would pop up?

    Or a team having a doctor on the payroll that was caught pushing PEDs, or salary cap circumventions, or using towels to apply Stickum to footballs, or piping in crowd noise, or hiding the fact you were aware of seeing a videotape of a player knocking out a woman, or; never mind this is depressing.

    They may have had enough and are ready to drag others down with them…

  122. The league had to fabricate a way for all of the butthurt fans of the other 31 teams to cope with getting slammed by the Pats year after year. Thus the fairytale known as deflategate. Now just imagine the reaction when the Pats go 4-0 to start off next season….. What will you losers invent then?

  123. The problem with cell phones, text messages, e-mails etc. is that unlike face to face exchanges, you can’t see body language, detect intonement or eassily tell when somoeon is joking. So let’s suppose that in the aftermath of this where Tom Brady was laughing on camera at the notion that this was for real. he gets a text mesage from someone that says (jokingly) “Now come on Tom admit that you fooled around with the balls!” And Tom responds (jokingly) Sure I did it and you know where? I did it in the huddle with a needle up my sleeve!”
    Now that text or whatever gets released to the “investigators” Is the interpretation made that this is a joke or is it taken at face value? Given what we have seen from the Wells report, ther’s no doubt it would be interpreted as worst case scenario and become exibit A for the prosecution.
    I don’t blame Tom Brady at all for not wanting to turn over his PRIVATE phone and /or messages to this sad collection of jackals.

  124. This is all part of the plan sheep.

    Pats were caught cheating but Kraft isn’t going to let his team be punished and Goodell doesn’t have the stones to do so.

    So he gives them half of what they should get, which will be cut in half again upon appeal.

  125. What everyone is forgetting is that Robert Kraft was a principle participant in negotiating the current CBA.
    Both the players AND the owners (read:Kraft) gave Roger Goodell complete power over the disciple process for players, owners and teams. Only the Pittsburgh Steelers did not sign the agreement. Kraft can do or say what he wants but this is what he signed up for. Now that it’s not going his way he’s going to go rogue? He should have thought of that when they were negotiating the CBA. Roger is doing his job, for good or bad, and that is squarely on the shoulders of one Robert Kraft. Instead of rushing for a new CBA, they should have taken more time and thought this through. Mr. Kraft, you screwed yourself. Don’t blame your mistake on the man you hired to enforce the rules.

  126. HEY EVERYONE….
    GOT A QUESTION….

    The refs said that in 19 years they had never before lost track of game balls before…

    so… if the deflating was an on going thing OR EVEN EVER HAPPENED AT ALL…how was it done??

    did the refs watch them do it or maybe help them??? (that’s sarcasm for you slower people)

    TELEPATHY??!! ENLIGHTEN US ALL

    & PLEASE…. don’t even try to say it was on the sidelines in front of God & everyone as well as a ton of cameras but nobody ever noticed….that just makes you sound….how can I put it….ignorant maybe???

    BUHLER…..BUHLER…..ANYONE…..ANYONE????

  127. The best outcome of Deflategate for all: Fraudger is relieved of his duties as commissioner of the National Football League.

  128. I think Kraft should sue……and the NFL should exhibit the same urgency that it did in the Delfategate proceedings.

    Meaning that they should render a decision on the appeal about their draft picks about 2 or 3 weeks after next years draft, and maybe around Thanksgiving for Tom’s suspension.

    That’ll learn ’em.
    ===
    You realize that if the NFL responded with that kind of “urgency” to a lawsuit, then the NFL would lose by default.

  129. Where is John Mara and his outspoken trap on this?

    He will kick and scream and request that teams get cap $ reduced and draft picks taken for spending money in an uncapped year on contracts the NFL approved, but nothing on this topic?

    Come on, Mara – let’s go Franken-head. Polish up those neck bolts and get in front of the cameras – I want to hear what Frankenstein has to say on this issue.

  130. Regardless of which Gage’s were used to check the ball inflation, were the Gage’s in calibration with a calibration sticker attached?

  131. THIS is the scandal. The Patriots should just do the right thing and man up and accept the punishment and move on. Is “The Patriot Way” to act like screaming babies? They just won the Super Bowl for crying out loud. I would respect them if they would just OWN it, accept the penalties and move on. Now they are talking about suing and the NFLPA getting involved and on and on. 4 games is about right. They are acting like babies.
    SHUT UP AND MAN UP.

  132. #1 The data is terrible, according to the report Blakeman’s readings are all LOWER than Priolau’s on the Pats’ balls. Makes sense if one gauge is .4 psi on average lower. On the Colts’ balls Blakeman’s measurements are all HIGHER. Did they switch gauges (why?), or was Farley confused. Also if the balls were stuck with the high gauge and tested with the low gauge, the statistical analysis is correct but has no basis in determining what went on with the balls (possible .8 psi error on average).
    #2 Bruschi did not recognize McNally’s name. Mr. Wells should release the xscript of Brady’s interview and if he denied knowing “BIRD” than he lied.

  133. I have a gut feeling that the rest of the owners approved whole heartedly what has been done to the Patriots and Brady and I bet other owners were consulted before the hammer dropped. I also bet that the last few days, the phone lines from those owners have been many and forceful.

  134. I check a minimum of 3 game balls every week for my officiating duties. Every time with the same gauge. Cold weather wreaks havoc on balls, especially those that may have been warm/in a warm location when filled and then brought outside.

    That said….there is way more to this than what one guy’s gauge had versus the other guy’s gauge. There is obviously blatant lying and a major cover up going on and this will only turn uglier for the Pats the harder they fight this. Everyone lobbying and griping in defense of the Pats better be the first ones standing here saying they were wrong when the proof comes dripping out of the woodwork here soon. And it will.

  135. If the NFL dares to reduce the punishment of the perpetual cheaters, every fan, except those who live in the northeast, will not only be irate, but you can be sure they will make plenty of noise. I wonder how old Roger will like that?

  136. Your franchise cheated, again, and got caught, again. Arrogance at its highest level. The game is bigger than one organization. Go back to your mansion and sulk.

  137. Awwww….poor billionaire didn’t get his way. I can hear him pounding his very manicured fists on the floor right now! Nothing better than a billionaire hissy fit when they don’t get their way!

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