Wells criticizes Patriots, Brady for lack of full cooperation

AP

Ted Wells says that both the Patriots as a franchise and Tom Brady as an individual cooperated with his Deflategate investigation — but with a major omission in both respects.

With the Patriots, Wells says, refusing to make employee Jim McNally available for a second interview was frustrating.

“The Patriots provided me, in my opinion, with substantial cooperation except in one critical and crucial area: I wanted to do a second interview with Jim McNally. Jim McNally was the second Patriots person I interviewed. I wanted, after I interviewed others including Tom Brady, to do a second interview of McNally, to put other questions to him,” Wells said.

Wells said he was struck by a text message in which McNally called himself “The Deflator” and wanted to ask him about that. But the Patriots refused to put him in touch with McNally for a follow-up.

“I asked for a second interview, I said I would go to New Hampshire, I would interview him in the morning, afternoon night, I would do it whenever he was free. And they said not only could I not interview him, they wouldn’t even tell him of my request for an interview,” Wells said.

Wells said that contrary to reports that McNally talked to him four times and only refused for a fifth interview, Wells actually only wanted to talk to McNally twice.

“NFL security people talked to McNally on three occasions,” Wells said. “They talked to him on the night of the game for approximately 40 minutes, they talked to him the next morning by telephone for about 20 minutes, they talked to him in person I believe the next day for about 30 minutes. Those are three interviews. The Patriots urged me when I got to the case to start fresh, not to pay any attention to what NFL security had done. In fact they thought the people at NFL Security were biased. They applauded when I said I wanted to start fresh. And for them to later say I couldn’t have a second interview with the most important person in the case was a lack of cooperation.”

Wells also said that although Brady answered all of his questions in an interview, Brady refused to hand over electronic communications that would have helped in the Deflategate investigation.

“Mr. Brady, the report sets forth, he came to the interview, he answered every question, he did not refuse to answer any questions in terms of the back and forth between Mr. Brady and my team — he was totally cooperative,” Wells said. “At the same time, he refused to permit us to review electronic data from his telephone or other instruments. Most of the key evidence in this case as in most cases comes from people’s cell phones and he refused to let us review the phone. And I want to be crystal clear, I told Mr. Brady and his agents I was willing to not take possession of the phone, I don’t want to see any private communications, I said, ‘You keep the phone, you give me documents that are responsive to this investigation and I will take your word for it’ and they still refused.”

In the case of Brady, the NFL seems particularly troubled that he didn’t fully cooperate with the investigation, suggesting that the cover-up may have been worse than the crime.

252 responses to “Wells criticizes Patriots, Brady for lack of full cooperation

  1. Why because he didn’t want that old perv checking out the pics Giselle sends him.

  2. um let’s see, brady offered to let wells to look at his cell phone and allowed mcnally to have a 5th interview over the phone (wells declined this) and the pats were not cooperative? what a joke

  3. The fumbling data does not lie! The data is accurate and it says the Pats have been cheating since 2007, the year after Brady lobbied the league for the rule change, and the same year the Pats gave longtime employee Jim McNally the title of “locker room attendant”. It’s also the same year he became the “deflator”.

    Pats fumbling data:
    2000-2006: one fumble every 42 touches
    2007-2014: one fumble every 74 touches

    Pats have been cheating for years!!!

  4. Ted Wells’ statements come through as honest, complete, and straightforward.

    Tom Brady’s statements come off as evasive and dismissive.

  5. So Wells found a compelling piece of evidence and wanted to find out more and the Pats refused to comply ??? Wow! I’m sure that’s what they would have done if innocent , I’m sure

  6. The Pats denied the fourth interview with the equipment guy because it was between the 3rd and 4th interview that a lot of the damning questions about their text messages between each other and Brady were going to be asked. The Pats attorneys knew what was coming and hid the guy from Wells and his team by claiming it was “excessive.”

    Why didnt they find the 3rd or second interview excessive?

  7. ‘…it is more probably than not that Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski…’ is a joke of a conclusion.

  8. Pats fans believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny if they still think he’s innocent.

  9. Who cares who Brady is? Does he think he’s bigger than the NFL? It seems that way. You cheat you have to pay the consequences. It’s real easy to understand.

  10. I’m curious to know what punishment Pats fans think would be fair. Seriously. At the very least, they can admit that SOMETHING was going on. I know all fanbases are biased, I get that. But as fans of the sport, do they really think their team should get off scot-free? What would be a fitting punishment?

  11. Fans everywhere should know the Pats have gained an unfair advantage from deflating footballs. As Bill Polian correctly stated, the “hidden advantage” is cheating teams fumble at a much lower rate with deflated footballs. The data is accurate. Look it up. #PatriotsDeflatingSince2007

  12. That’s a great point. It’s not “just” Brady’s phone calls and text messages and other private information in that phone.

  13. #FreeTomBrady

    as an unbiased NFL fan, this investigation TERRIFIES ME….this could literally happy to any player on any team as long as their is enough public anger and jealousy towards that person to applaud and appreciate such a biased and unfair witch hunt…you nfl fans should be embarrassed of yourselves honestly…no other country/sports fans would ever be so whiny and pathetic about a winning franchise…whatever i guess, just glad its not my team

  14. Brady…. Because he knew he’d be suspended for the whole season. The Patriots…. because they knew the deflating had been going on longer than one game. Hence, “The Deflator” nickname.

  15. Wells is a highly paid league schill with only one goal, to deliver to Goodell what Goodell wanted. What Goodell wanted was something slanted to make the Pats look bad, not anything that actually examined the facts from a neutral perspective.

  16. Just let the teams use whatever psi they want. Just make sure they’re all the same so teams don’t use super flat balls to run the ball and then other balls to pass. Otherwise if balls that are slightly deflated make quarterbacks perform better they should by all means use those balls. The rule is just kind of stupid and takes away from the fans seeing the best football possible or at least the best offense possible.

  17. God forbid a man gives you his cellphone for an Investigation about some balls in a game that were missing a little bit of air. Everyone cooperated with you, what’s the problem?? It took you FOUR interviews to find out you want/need a FIFTH one?! Cut it out.

    This report said more about the refs and NFL than it did the Pats.

  18. If they’d have let this guy interview everyone he wanted as many times as he wanted, the investigation would never finish. Dude you asked your questions now frigg off

  19. It is good to see Wells getting defensive about this. Hopefully Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison’s reputation is affected by Wells’ poor effort on this report.

  20. I’m not a famous professional athlete with a supermodel girlfriend and I still wouldn’t turn over my phone or any info. Unless it’s a police investigation I don’t see why he should either. That’s his private property and if you’re going to cast guilt and use this as a main reason why, then your investigation is weak.

  21. Well that is pretty damning on the organization’s refusal to fully cooperate. I didn’t understand why they wouldn’t serve up the key guy for a follow-up interview under any circumstance when it seemed like the fifth time… but for it to be just the second time with the independent investigators is pretty glaring rebuttal by the Patriots.

  22. Hey big time lawyer McNally was easy to find. Have one of your overpaid investigators open a phone book. The Boston media found him that way. Isn’t that common sense you fool. FREE TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. Quit the bellyaching and lip flapping. Give them your phone records and let McNally talk again.

    Tired of all this crying from Pats fans. The level of whining and crying on this has reached galactic levels.
    You didn’t cooperate. Bye, bye.

  24. Put BeliCHEAT and Shady Brady on the polygraph.

    The needle would be all over the place.

    The patriot way = serial cheating and lying

  25. Hey Tom… One for the thumb! Man, I can’t wait until you hit the field next year! Go Pats!

  26. I personally don’t care for Brady or the Patriots, but if heads of state in our government feel the need to blow off requests for electronic equipment requests, why should a QB for a football team be held to a higher standard? Seems like it’s becoming a bigger deal than it should be honestly. Unless the NFL is going to take away the super bowl win, this (news Coverage) seems a little outrageous.

  27. So the Patriots bruised the big time NY lawyers ego. Oh well you found exactly what the NFL told you they wanted to find. FREE TOM BRADY!!!

  28. This is the hard nut of the idea that Tom will appeal. How does he appeal and not hand over his own records? I am pretty sure the issue is and was, something in that record makes the problem worse not better. If he choses to decline in his own appeal to hand over … he will get laughed out of the process …

  29. Wow that was a guy that just charged all nfl fans millions of dollars for a trash report with more holes than the titanic . we’ll see how it holds up when the patriots and tom brady take this to court !

  30. If Tom did nothing wrong, and saw that the ‘independent investigation’ was actually a predetermined farce, looking for a script, then there is no way he turns over his phone.

    Sounds like Ted is trying to prop up his shady report, knowing it is about to be shredded and ridiculed as the garbage it is!

  31. “Why because he didn’t want that old perv checking out the pics Giselle sends him.”

    First of all, your elementary school teachers should be ashamed of themselves.

    Second, by your, frankly, skewed logic, no one with a hot wife can ever be investigated. You are wrong.

  32. Notice how they post photographs of Brady when writing about Ted (the Weasel) Wells? And I apologize to all of the weasels in the world for comparing them to Wells.

  33. Brady and Pats have something to hide.

    Something more valuable to them than possibly throwing away 4 games and a first round draft pick

    In my view – due to this obstructistic behavior – THE PATRIOTS AND TOM BRADY WILLFULLY DEFLATED THE BALLS AND TRIED TO HIDE THEIR ACTIONS EVEN NOW

    They are yapping a lot about this and that trying to sway their idiotic fanbase that will believe any crap served to them as long as it’s said out of the mouth of their gods: Brady and Belichick. But I won’t be swayed.

    They are CHEATERS unless they come clean with everything. I think they fear all their other cheating activities will come out too if they revealed that much.

  34. Regardless what opinion you hold on this matter, one thing is clear: Ted Wells independence cannot be doubted.

    He is deep in the pocket of the NFL and is not independent.

  35. It is more probable than not that Red Wells represented a traitor named Scooter who cost American lives.

  36. …and what was it about Walt Anderson’s testimony did you not trust? His initial testimony supports the assertion that it was science all along.

  37. I have yet to see a decisive answer to the question of whether Brady is required to surrender his personal communications to an NFL investigator. Because if he isn’t, one suspects that labor law also says he can’t be punished for refusing to, or presumed to be guilty of something for refusing to. He undoubtedly was not using a team phone, for instance.

    I think this will be the key question in any appeal.

  38. Sorry, but I wouldn’t turn over my personal phone to the NFL, or anyone without a subpeona. If I had a business phone, sure. The NFL has let drug test results and wonderlic scores leak out. Why would a prominent NFLPA member let the NFL take his phone based on the accusations of a rival’s GM after bascially embarassing them on national TV?

    I’m no Pats fan, but I’m with Brady on this one.

  39. So the Brady “refusal to cooperate” was just records from the personal cell phone?

    So we go back to the same question: Does the CBA require players to surrender personal records to NFL investigations?

  40. As a laywer why don’t you explain the 5th amendment and how it cover not incriminating ones self… sooooo if wells thinks proof is in the texts Brady then doesnt have to hand them over and can’t be punished for doing so … The NFL has over reached and WILL lose on appeal…. Goodell must really like looking like a fool

  41. restoreintegritytonfl

    Do you think the Patriots fumble less because they pass a lot more than other teams? In 2007 when your stat starts I don’t think they ran the ball more than 10 times a game. I would think that a running back is more likely to fumble the ball running through the line of scrimmage than say a Wide receiver being tackled by a corner back in the open field.

    Just common sense though.

  42. LOL…Pats…down in flames….

    wait? what? they won what? the SUPER BOWL?? AGAIN??

    UGH. well misery loves company so let’s bring ’em down to our pathetic level. HAHA

  43. Based on these additional revelations by Wells, it’s shocking that Vincent’s punishment determination was not “indefinite suspension”. As a minimum, it should have been for the entire 2014 season.

  44. “You want my husband to throw the ball, catch the ball and deflate the ball all by himself?”

    Gisele Bundchen

  45. It’s not just the cheating, it’s not just the lying, it’s not just the denying of the cheating and lying….It’s doing all of the above while consistently winning and figuratively celebrating on the other 31 teams’ logos.

  46. Between the fourth interview and request for number 5, someone leaked McNally’s information to an ESPN reporter and they showed up in his driveway.

    All of these claims that they would safeguard Brady’s info but this guy’s information still ended up in the hands of an ESPN reporter who is married to a former league executive.

    Do I understand feeling Brady should have just complied? Yeah. But I also understand refusing on principle after all of the leaks which clearly aimed to make Patriots look bad

  47. I would trust TMZ with cell phone photos of my smoking hot wife before I would ever hand them over to Roger Goodell and his band of buffoons!

  48. You can’t be serious! It’s a private investigation, he has NO rights to look at his personal documents. Get over it. The only reason this is a big deal is because it’s the Patriots and Tom Brady. I’m willing to bet that there are other QB’s in the league that constantly do the same thing (Aaron Rodgers admitted to liking them over inflated). I’m a Bears fan, NOT a Pats fan. I just think this all ridiculous and the media is swinging this how they want so we have something to talk about in the downtime of the NFL. To me, he broke the rules and knew it, but it’s just a comfort thing, not a competitive advantage thing

  49. Wells flop sweat, nice. It only gets worse from here. Next time don’t try to suspend the reigning SB MVP for possibly maybe being aware that footballs are subject to the laws of thermodynamics.

  50. How does he appeal and not hand over his own records?
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    He says that the science of the report was inconclusive and that Walt Anderson’s best recollection makes it more probable than not that there was no manual deflation.

    He also says that the CBA doesn’t require him to turn over personal records to NFL investigators.

  51. Someone may want to tell Wells that emails and texts can be viewed from the recipient and the sender. Not just the sender.

  52. Let’s see ..

    1. Brady wanted Wells to take him at his word without allowing him to check Brady’s cell records. Records which would be handed over by his lawyer. The league would not touch his cell phone.

    2. Wells only interviewed McNally 1 time and it was at his request for a 2nd (not 5th) interview where the Pats clammed up and lost McNally’s contact info.

    Seriously, Pat’s fans can’t see how this stinks of a Pats coverup? They definitely did not fully cooperate.

    I’m sure Kraft wants an apology from Wells for taking up so much of Tom’s precious time.

    I would have given them 1/2 a season for not cooperating and consider the deflating of footballs a separate issue. The Pats definately got off light on that front.

  53. Wells conveniently omits that the Pats offered to make McNally available by phone. And telephone interviews have become commonplace in workplace investigations so there is no valid reason for him to have denied that offer.

  54. THE NFL is not about Football or Sport, they are power hungry Ivy League, Academia Elitist trying to run a Professional Sports League!!! LOL

  55. Curious. Wells already had the texts from the 2 ball attendants. They would show all of Brady’s texts to them. So, what other telephone numbers would they be looking at on Toms phone? Krafts? Belichicks? How would they determine whose number is important and whose isn’t without first reading the content?

  56. 3 of the 4 Colts footballs measured at halftime we below the legal limit. But when the Colts balls fall below the legal limit it’s just science and the ideal gas law. Yet, the rest didn’t get tested because they “ran out of time” give me a break with that crap.

    On page 113 of the Wells report, after a description of the scientific Ideal Gas Law, Wells says that the Patriots footballs should have measured between 11.32 psi and 11.52 psi. The average of all 22 readings was 11.30 psi … two-one-hundredths lower what the Ideal Gas Law would have allowed for balls that started the day at the Patriots’ level of 12.5 psi.

    Keep in mind we don’t know what the initial PSI readings pre-game are since they weren’t recorded and we also don’t know which gauge was used to measure the balls pre-game.

  57. i would like to believe that brady didn’t do this, but if it was so, this whole thing wouldn’t even surface in the first place.

  58. “Most of the key evidence in this case as in most cases comes from people’s cell phones”

    Well, when you have ABSOLUTELY no documented proof that anything wrong had been done, when you have no reliable data tracking ball inflation, when you disregard expert witness testimony about how the ball psi was measured in favor of your own made-up narrative, when you presume guilt based on conjecture, and when you completely ignore comparable ball data on the Colts’ side, I guess cell phones are all you have left, huh Ted?

    This guy sounds more ridiculous by the moment. Please don’t stop calling him out on all the ludicrous details, it needs to continue until he’s never given a responsibility like this again.

    And I say this as a Cowboys fan. The league office has jumped the shark, and they need to clean house.

  59. Why is the phone the center of the matter regarding lack of cooperation? – The CBA has a clear guideline that players are not obligated to provide its phone (or other personal tools), so, Isn’t a penalty based on not giving a phone against the CBA?

  60. The NFL sells pink merchandise to raise money for breast cancer but the stark reality is the NFL has spent far more on the Wells investigation than they have ever given to breast cancer research.

  61. Stonewall em all Tommy!!!
    Hands Down The Greatest QB to play the game.
    Oh BTW I watch football!

  62. What’s with the lack of reading comprehension? Tom was never required to turn over his phone. He was asked to look through his messages with his lawyer and produce relevant information. No one was going to go through his phone. This is useful because when Tom turns the information over one of three things will happen:

    1) Tom turns over less than what Wells has already uncovered, showing Tom is full of it.

    2) Tom turns over more than what Wells has already uncovered, giving Wells potential new avenues of investigation.

    3) Tom turns over exactly what Wells has, which may indicate he’s being completely honest.

    All three of these scenarios would be useful to investigators.

  63. can we stop with the ”brady is better than montana debate”. brady has tarnished his career, his superbowls are tainted. there will always be an asterisk next to bradys name.

  64. I’m Tom Shady, yes I’m the real Shady
    All you other McCoys are just imitating
    So won’t the real Tom Shady, please inflate up,
    Please inflate up,
    Please inflate up
    I’m Tom Shady, yes I’m the real Shady
    All you other McCoys are just imitating
    So won’t the real Tom Shady, please inflate up,
    Please inflate up,
    Please inflate up

  65. It’s pretty simple: Brady has the constitutional right (and contractual right under the CBA) to refuse to provide his personal cell phone info; however, the NFL has the contractual right to suspend him for violations, including those which are exacerbated by his lack of cooperation. Still think the NFL went overboard, but all this Pats cheating crap is getting a bit old.

  66. So McNally’s employer wouldn’t tell him that Wells wanted another interview?

    And now McNally has no job….fair result??

  67. Guilty people typically don’t cooperate with investigators. And since neither Brady nor the Patriots have professed their innocence it’s quite clear they are guilty. Check out everything they’ve been saying: They’re griping about the severity of the penalties NOT that they were falsely accused.

    They had a guy on staff called “The Deflator.” That and the texts were about all the investigation required. It’s not like they were particularly clever about hiding anything.

  68. Pat fans – pay attention to what is actually being said, not the line you are saying.
    1. Wells didn’t want Brady’s phone. He said he’d trust him to transcibe relevant information.

    2. Wells did not interview the ball guy multiple times. NFL security did, and Wells decided to start fresh (and the Pats agreed that was a good idea).

    3. Wells only wanted to talk to the ball guy again AFTER he started to get info that made him the central figure.

    4. After Wells got infor that made the ball guy a central figure – the Pats stopped cooperating. Wells was willing to go anywhere at any time to talk to him. The Pats refused.

    5. The Pats didn’t want the ball guy to even know Wells wanted to talk to him again.

    6. Ball guy is now suspended indefintely.

    But yeah – no one did anything wrong. Jeez – aren’t you guys tired of sounding stupid?

  69. The whole thing smacks of the arrogance of Brady and the Patriots organization as a whole. Just because Brady and Kraft think they are above the NFL as an Elite team does not mean that they are.

  70. Brady is going to squirm, struggle and whine until the end. But on the bright-side, maybe the Patriot organization will finally think twice about cheating.

  71. Pats fans are a trip. Why do you care so much? You’re in here defending those who were caught red handed and speaking as though the texts didn’t happen, the deflated footballs didn’t happen, I guess the whole thing didn’t happen.

    Sure.

    Meanwhile, there is a part of NFL bylaws that states that employees have to cooperate fully with investigations.

    I hate to break this to Pats fans, but yeah, that includes Brady. Turn over the cell phone data bruh.

  72. Getting nervous, Ted?
    Don’t worry, if you wrote a fair, unbiased report, used proper tools for the PSI tests, wrote down the results properly, didn’t coerce Mr. Anderson ‘ s testimony….everything should hold up just fine!

    Bwaaaahaaaha!

    Oh, and I’m certain that if the Colts’ balls were found to be deflated, the Colts would receive the same punishments…..right? No? Hmmmmm?

    Btw, Teddy….What was the PSI in the ball that the Colts intercepted? You seem to have left that out. Along with info on the NFL employee stealing balls to sell on Ebay. I didn’t see that mentioned in the report either. Oh, and just one more thing, Teddy, where are the texts that show Brady telling the ball boys to make sure to have the balls at the legal PSI?You seem to have forgotten that too. I know that you only took 3 1/2 months to come out with this junk.

    And in a report that took 100 days, it just sounds kind of ironic that you ‘ran out of time’ to measure more than 4 of the Colts balls. Even though 3 of those 4 were found to be under the legal PSI!

    Sounds solid, Teddy. Have a good week!

  73. I find it interesting Wells feels the need to go on a media offensive to try and put a favorable spin on his report. Looks like he’s nervous about something. Maybe he should have got it right the first time, like, you know, in the Wells report.

  74. Apparently several people didn’t bother to read the article before posting. If they had they would have read the part where it clearly laid out that Wells did not have 4 interviews, and asked for a 5th, with the deflator. Wells interviewed him once and was denied his request for a 2nd, the other 3 interviews were with NFL security and unrelated to Wells’ investigation.

  75. Thank GOD Malcolm Butler picked off that ball. All of this would be completely insufferable if the Pats had lost. And TB12 was totally clutch, in the absolute worst of circumstances. Just to remind you all…

  76. So Wells says the Colts complaint went to the League, they sent it to operations, and then the Referee, but “no one took it seriously”. And yet Kensil is primed and ready when the call came in a half time, he’s cackling at Pat’s personnel on the sideline, false info is zapped to Kraft, false leaks about the league being “distraught” (please) are sent out, false info about 2 pounds under PSI is leaked to an Indy journalist within hours.

    Come on: open your eyes folks. Even if they didn’t take it seriously, wouldn’t Walt Anderson have said something as he’s checking the damn game balls right next to McNally?

    And if they really didn’t take it seriously, perhaps this indicates yet further how little care anyone took with these footballs, because manipulation and preparation of them to suit the QBs is so rampant. And if that is the case, they shouldn’t have blown this up into a major scandal – as they did. Their story just doesn’t fit.

  77. For Wells, it’s a good thing that Aaron “The Enforcer” Hernandez is locked up.

  78. And Mr Kraft neglected to distinguish between the two entities when he claimed that there were 5 interviews. Misleading the public? Absolutely.

  79. The big tobacco lawyer is just bracing for the deluge of bad press that is coming when a real judge shreds his “independent report”.

    Wells can kiss this cash-cow client goodbye.

  80. “Wells said that contrary to reports that McNally talked to him four times and only refused for a fifth interview, Wells actually only wanted to talk to McNally twice.”

    Where there are lies there is guilt.

  81. The Pats can’t win a Super Bowl without cheating. They never have in decades in the league. Why would the Pats not allow the only honest people in the organization to talk?

    Because the delusional Pats fans can’t handle the truth. They’d be the laughingstock of the still.

  82. I will happily retract my statement about Brady being required to turn over evidence if I’m wrong. I was going by what I had previously read, but evidnelty that has been reported to be just “what everyone seems to be saying on the internet” (or something like that) and no one has actually quoted the CBA. That I have seen.

  83. Goodell needs to resign immediately or Kraft will force him out. From Day 1, this was a smear job by Goodell and Wells and John Harbaugh and Chuck Pagano and Mike Kensell the Jets fan in the NFL front office against the Patriots. They were all determined to take the Patriots down for an issue
    that the NFL didn’t care about until a few months ago.

    It’s so interesting that teams have been manipulating footballs and football inflation for years and the NFL has basically yawned. The Vikings and Panthers heated up balls on their sidelines. The Chargers applied a sticky substance to their balls. AARON RODGERS ADMITTED ON THE RECORD TO PLAYING WITH OVERINFLATED FOOTBALLS. And the NFL could have cared less.

    Suddenly, when it’s the Patriots involved, the NFL cares, because it’s a team everyone hates because they’re so good. The NFL had no standard for PSI inflation until somehow the Patriots were involved. Brady and Kraft need to sue the league at this point.

  84. Mr integrity… the Facts are the Patriots fumbled significantly less on the road than at home every year since 2007- look it up instead of just spewing nonsense.

  85. Wells naturally leaves out that it wasn’t his place or right to ask Brady to turn over his cellphone or provide access to it, and his query about McNally’s “Deflator” reference had zero behind it – Wells needed real evidence of tampering and referee Walt Anderson already shot down the premise.

  86. A couple of problems with Wells conference call.

    First of all someone was feeding Wells his lines. It was heard on the call, it was indisputable and it was noticed by a few media outlets. Not good.

    His camp also badly botched an answer about the discrepancy with the two different gauges.

    Judge Doty is going to eat the NFL alive if this makes it to his courtroom, there is no doubt about that…

  87. Not cooperating doesn’t make sense, if you’re innocent. If someone accused me of cheating and I know I didn’t, I would do everything in my power to proof my innocence. Brady had every right to hang onto his phone, but at the same time he and the Patriots have to understand that makes him look like he has something to hide. I understand innocent until proven guilty, but Brady was already answering questions to prove his innocence, then all of a sudden quit cooperating. Come on people, at what point does common sense kick in?

  88. Also Wells telling Yee to publish his notes was embarrassing. That was Wells job, that’s what he was being paid to do.

  89. For someone who is such a great qb one could say Tom Brady is certainly lacking in self confidence. If you are certain of your abilities why cheat?? Maybe one day he will tell all somehow I doubt it. What a shame to cry, lie, and cheat your way to the top. I have no issue with one being a great competitor, but what I do have a problem with is winning at all costs even if it compromises ones integrity.

  90. If Wells was flying out to meet McNally, then why wouldnt the Pats allow that?!?!?!?! is the ball boy too busy? And if my g/f asks if i am cheating, i say no, then she asks to see my phone and i throw it out the window and break it, then TECHNICALLY there is no proof i am cheating………..but ummmmmm what person would honestly buy that? I hope everyone one of u pats fans dates a guy or girl u suspect of cheating, and they refuse to every let u see their phone- u can refer back to this and remember that that doesnt mean a thing and even tho they are hiding their phone, they ‘probably’ dont have anything to hide.

  91. Would you be comfortable giving personal information to an organization that leaks every bit of information? From the first day, months ago, reporters have quoted “sources from the NFL”. Mortenson leaked info, along with other reporters. On a daily basis. We knew about the punishment the day before it happened, from Adam Schefter and others. Why would you trust a group that perpetuates its own agenda through well placed leaks? Goodell needed a strong stance to try to regain some credibility from all the miserable decisions he has made the last year or so. How better to do it than come down hard on the Patriots, the second most disliked team according to a recent poll. Goodell knew he could please the masses by slamming the Patriots. Success breeds contempt, and Goodell needs some good press. The whole thing is a farce, and should have been treated the same way as the overheated balls on the sidelines, or the ball treated with sticky towels. Not like someone murdered someone

  92. Curious. Wells already had the texts from the 2 ball attendants. They would show all of Brady’s texts to them. So, what other telephone numbers would they be looking at on Toms phone? Krafts? Belichicks? How would they determine whose number is important and whose isn’t without first reading the content?
    ===
    He would already have the NEP-owned or BYOD phones of Kraft and Belichick, because they’re an owner and employee of the club, respectively. That’s why Wells had the equipment guys’ phones. They were club-provided phones.

  93. Denial – Not just a river in Egypt Patriot’s fans.

    Just take your lumps.

    This is an affront to common sense and integrity.

    It’s telling though – football fandom and a sense for the truth are somehow unrelated.

    I’m pretty sure you’d allow Tom to sleep with your wife and STILL not call him a cheater.

  94. “It ain’t easy being cheesy.” Ladies and Gentlemen now presenting Chester Cheetah and the New England Cheetos!

  95. Wells on the Colts complaint before the game: “it was a normal complaint. You get these things all the time and nobody paid much attention to it. It wasn’t taken seriously”

    Wow….just….WOW. This alone should cost Goodell and Kensil their jobs…

  96. Lol at Pats fans trying to claim the NFL is out to get them. Just stop you whiners. Tuck rule, spygate, and yeah anytime you tap Brady you get a flag. You cheated, face up to the music ladies

  97. I’m very confused over why Mr. Wells needed the Patriots help in arranging an interview with Mr. McNally when he had members of the sports media showing up at his house. Just pick up the phone and call the man!

  98. Taking the air out of footballs makes it easier to grip, whether throwing or running it. That equals cheating. NO LEGITIMATE
    SUPERBOWL WINS!

  99. Go to WEEI. Enjoy the whining and the calls for Goodell to get fired. When the Steelers told you about the guy, you laughed.

    Now you want him gone… Unreal “privilege” and arrogance.

  100. What’s the point of Brady even turning over whatever he feels he wants to give? That doesn’t seem useful

  101. Funny how Tom Brady gets more scrutiny for not turning over his private text messages/emails on his personal phone than Hillary Clinton does for not turning over her government Secretary of State emails. Country needs to get it’s priorities in order.

  102. Richard Nixon did not benefit from his dirty tricks campaign- he won easily

    Richard Nixon never was proven to participate in any wrong doing

    Richard Nixon refused to hand over the tapes, when he did the crucial segments were erased.

    Richard Nixon said he was not a crook.

    How times have changed!

  103. Actually, he probably has something incriminating on the phone. A picture of him with something of his which is small. And he is a father?? I know, a low blow.

  104. Is a second cheating scandal by Robert Kraft’s Patriot franchise more significant than the racist rantings of Donald Sterling, former owner of the Clippers? I think so. If this were just the first time it could be forgiven. The culture of the Patriots discredits the NFL brand. Kraft should feel lucky he still owns the franchise.

  105. What part of this statement are some of you not understanding? Do some of you even read the article?

    ” I told Mr. Brady and his agents I was willing to not take possession of the phone, I don’t want to see any private communications, I said, ‘You keep the phone, you give me documents that are responsive to this investigation and I will take your word for it’ and they still refused.”

  106. FACTS FROM THE WELLS REPORT!!!

    WELLS: walt which gauge did you use?

    WALT: the one with the logo and crooked needle

    WELLS: is its possible you used the other one

    WALT: I don’t think so

    WELLS: but is it possible????

    WALT: I guess its possible

    ted wells runs with the data from the non logo gauge and straight needle, the other gauge allows for no tampering as laid out by the “IDEAL GAS LAW” referenced throughout the wells report

    the proof of Honest Ted’s integrity is right there in the report. when its came to memory they used what helped them serve their conclusion and ignored or went against what didn’t.

    maybe TOM didn’t want to cooperate with a sham investigation that started with its conclusion. or maybe he didn’t want his phone being leaked to the media.

    here is what is strictly confidential by the NFL and then tell me how you would feel about assurances by WELLS and the League that there would be no leaks
    -wonderlic tests
    -ped suspensions
    -facts from nfl investigations

    if the nlf has proven anything is that they are 100 percent incapable of controlling leaks and the league under Goodell makes the leaks in the titanic look like pin holes

  107. Those of you that don’t like the closing statement in the Wells Report must not understand it. All the NFL has to prove is that a rule was broken, and that Brady must have been more likely than not have been aware. The only thing that needed oto be said was that he is 51% sure Brady knew about it to condemn him.

  108. Read the Wells Report from page 100 to page 110. These are records of the Jastremski’s txts with Brady and McNally….never do they make reference to lowering PSI under 12.5.

    Wow, this is flimsier than I thought

  109. There’s a lot of people out there that just don’t understand how us New Englanders love our sports teams. They think we’re just going to roll over and give up.

    Not Happening!

  110. You Pat’s fans apparently cannot read.Wells only interviewed McNally ONCE,and wanted a second interview after he re-read one of the texts that McNally called himself “The Deflater”.There were 3 NFL security guys that questioned him and when Wells took over,he wanted to start fresh.In fact he spoke to Kraft regarding this and Kraft more than agreed and welcomes his investigation.Kraft also stated to wells he didn’t fully trust the NFL security.Wells did a conference call on ESPN and stated ALL of this.Your boy cheated and he will not win an appeal,period.

  111. Funny howSteeler Nation gets his therapy for his pathetic team by trolling the Patriots.
    Has Big Ben banged any more minors lately? How’s the PEDs doing with your boys?
    Wasn’t it Tim Tebow who knocked your boys out of the playoffs recently. Tim Tebow????

  112. The Pseudo Patriots are only concerned about the opinions and attitudes of their fan base. Those lemmings will jump off any cliff Kraft points at. If they believe the lies then everything is aok because the money keeps rolling in.

  113. “Apparently several people didn’t bother to read the article before posting. If they had they would have read the part where it clearly laid out that Wells did not have 4 interviews, and asked for a 5th, with the deflator. ”

    And this gets a bunch of thumbs down. Wonderful, Pats fans. Keep looking dumb.

    A compeltely factual statement gets a bunch of “thumbs down” because the truth goes against what you want people to believe.

    All you guys have left if the thumbs down vote. Truth is Brady lied, and he and the Patriots did not fully cooperate.

    And the Deflator has been suspended from the the team because..because…

    wait – no one did anything wrong? Why is this guy suspended? Someone from the Pats fans – explain that one please (before or after you vote thumbs down.)

  114. FYI…for those ignorant trolls here. The Tuck rule wasn’t cheating. It was a rule on the books that was enforced twice that year. Once against the Patriots when playing against the Jets. It was ruled for the Jets when the same thing happened. The second time was in the playoffs..this time for the Patriots. So stop using that as cheating……it was a league rule, called by a league official. Stop whining

  115. 45-7!!!!! AFCC wow, close game huh? Colts would’ve won had they( Patriots) not deflated the balls???
    06AFCC Colts turn thermostat up to 80 degrees, Pump in crowd noise. Let’s just say we owed you one!

  116. I’m a Skins fan so you know I HATE Goodell. Having said that though, people on here are really funny. This isn’t a criminal proceeding it’s basically a workplace grievance. All this “Tom has pics of Giselle” or “more probable than not isn’t evidence” is just stupid. That specific term was used as a legal matter because that is the bar for “evidence” in matters of NFL discipline. And why is it such a big deal that Giselle’s pictures are on the phone if they didn’t even want to take the phone? they said, “review your phone and anything pertinent we need to know” this wasn’t even a request for the phone it was a let us know situation.

    I can’t believe people pretending that they don’t know this stuff goes on.

  117. Couple of thoughts.

    Many of you griping about Wells need to research his background. He is a renowned attorney. He has experience in criminal defense and representing Fortune 500 clients. He is well versed in criminal and civil matters. He is extremely well educated. Extremely well qualified. The notion he wasn’t prepared for any rebuttal to his conclusions is not well thought out.

    Some of you must not read. He asked Brady and his attorney just to turn over records (at their own gathering) pertinent to the investigation. That is huge. He is not just handing his phone over. He is not invading any privacy beyond the scope of the investigation. I have to say that changes my concerns about invasion of privacy tremendously. He asked Brady to gather your records (I am guessing related to the ball boys and other Patriot officials) and supply them to us. Nothing outside of Brady employment scope.

    Amazing how this reverses the Patriot spin that we made our person available for 4 interviews. But only one with the independent investigator. And when he wanted one follow up at any possible time to be convenient and would travel to him, but they said no.

    Last, while I am not a lawyer, this report is wrought with legalistic terms. Particularly “the more probable that not” language. So many Joe six packs who know nothing want to turn the investigation’s standard of proof to the “criminal standard” of “beyond a reasonable doubt.” You all don’t think Wells picked every word with care and understanding and knew the difference in burden of prrof standards? This guy is sharp. Make no mistake. He knew exactly what he was doing.

    BTW, Patriots fans, you think Wells is bad (and he’s not), wait until TMZ gets to the bottom of this. You will wished this stopped with Wells then.

  118. So the Pat’s organization even lied about how many times Wells interviewed McNally! The lack of honesty within the Pat’s organization in the investigation proves guilt from the top down.

    And they’re complaining about a measly 4 games when considering how the Pat’s and their personnel obstructed the investigation the Pat’s should have been fined more and Brady should have been suspended for 1 full year!

  119. If anyone thinks Goodell wanted this then your smoking something really good. Roger wanted nothing more than this to blow over and to go away but unfortunately it didn’t. Goodell and Kraft are BFF’s for crying out loud. The fact is this franchise has a history of bending or breaking the rules for years now and this is the 2nd time they’ve been flat out caught. The punishment fits the crime and they need to man up and accept the punishment.

  120. There is a lot more to this that they didn’t uncover. That’s why Brady refused to turn over his phone! That’s because the information on there was a lot worse then just a game or two of deflating….It was common practice!

  121. It’s not about air pressure anymore (moot point, games have been played). It’s about owning up. This isn’t murder, hell it’s not even criminal, it’s about having a shred of dignity and just admitting that he took advantage of a flaw in the system. Eat your dirt sandwich and own up to it. As soon as he does this story dies. It’s a horrible look for Brady and the Pats by association.

    You got caught, be a man and do your time. If you have nothing to hide you would have turned over all your devices and would have made the equipment dude available.

    Instead you squirm like a snake. Disappointing..

  122. The NFL’S worst nightmare….the Pats make it to the Super BOWL again this year……bwaahahahahaha what would Goodell do then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  123. McNally, who makes a lot less money than Brady, loses his job. How long before the book deal?

  124. Why do people assume the NFL was out to get the Patriots? There is no motive.

    I believe that the NFL wanted a fair conclusion. I believe Wells did do an independent investigation and if the Pats were concerned about his objectivity then they should have voiced that at the beginning.

    They only seem to be concerned now that the punishment was pretty harsh. However, if they would have fully cooperated then much of this would have been avoided.

  125. These guys are bickering like an old married couple.

    “You left the seat up!”

    “No I didn’t!”

    “Yes you did!”

  126. Isn’t it very obvious that Brady was concerned that Wells would discover communications between Brady and Belachick regarding their conspiracy, and thereby incriminating Belachick. Anyone who actually believes Belachick didn’t know everything about this conspiracy is either a liar or too gullible!

  127. This changes everything. Before, you could make the “invasion of privacy” excuse for Brady not turning over the phone. Now? It just looks like someone with something to hide.

    Tsk and tsk.

  128. I would love to get my hands on the financial records of Mr. McNally. Most sideline employees of NFL teams don’t think of it as a lucrative paying positions but most sideline employees don’t work for the Kraft, Brady and the Patriots during a championship game either.

    I suspect that Mr. McNally is set for life provided he just keep his mouth shut.

  129. “The fumbling data does not lie! The data is accurate and it says the Pats have been cheating since 2007,”

    What you are ignoring is that the Pats had a similar number of actual fumbles as the other teams in this period, but what they did do was recover a higher percentage of their own fumbles than other teams did.

    Which leads people who only look at the surface numbers to draw the conclusion you have. Which is wrong.

  130. We will not stop until there is justice! Brady needs to be reinstated and rewarded a later negotiated sum for his suffering caused by these ridiculous accusations. The Patriots, Champions, must have their draft picks returned. All of this out of jealousy. All of you are jealous.

  131. I have to admit. I’m jealous. Jealous that my team couldn’t could cheat and lie like tom cheating brady did. Thanks for ruining it for the rest of the teams tainted tom.****.

  132. Wells said that contrary to reports that McNally talked to him four times and only refused for a fifth interview, Wells actually only wanted to talk to McNally twice.

    WHAT?!?!

    The Patriots are liars?????

    Say it ain’t so!

  133. fact of the matter is it is one scandal after another by the patriots I laugh when you talk about the legacy of Tom Brady and the Patriots how many times can you be can you be found guilty of cheating without being a cheater you can cry & wine & complain all you want but fact is Tom Brady got caught cheating and when they just wanted him to set down in admit it by showing his text and its emails he refused he should have got a year and the title stripped Tinted Super Bowl wins

  134. Maybe if he hadn’t hired the same organization that the NFL hired to “prove” that concussions don’t deal any long term damage to the brain, we might believe that the investigation might be a bit more independant…

  135. Check the ball boys’ bank accounts as the above poster says.

    While you’re at it, look into the mysterious LeGarrette Blount “transfer” too. That thing’s as fishy as a koi pond.

  136. here’s what happened: ball boys took it upon themsleves to deflate balls AGAINST brady’s wishes, and brady, having thrown a milliion balls in his life, just didnt notice the difference. Then the Ravens and ball boys got together to screw brady- so ravens let colts know to check the balls the same week the ball boys let out air! And the ball boys planted these txt messages in the beginning of the year b/c they knew there would be an investigation. Even tho tom had ZERO privacy issues with showing his phone, he just chose not to for the fun of it. Its a huge conspiracy, oh and the HUGE drop in fumbling, that stats show is a .00017 probability is just a coincidence. OR- the known cheaters, just cheated again. Either or.

  137. Tom Brady and Hillary Clinton separated at birth. Neither wants to turn over information. If you have nothing to hide you turn over your cell phone records.

  138. So let’s see, Kraft claims it was a fifth round of questioning and Wells says 2nd…. easy enough to prove whose pants are on fire in this one, which will probably lead to other mistakes.

    Wells was keeping track of his interview data, Kraft shamelessly groping for public outrage.

    Kraft is looking worse and worse now.

    Please sue and appeal so we can all find out the contents of the phone.

  139. You ask why would Wells want to see Moe’s cell phone records when he already saw Curly’s and Larry’s? Well maybe Moe also communicated with Shemp, Curly Joe and Clarabelle about the deflated balls. Unti Moe produces the records through his attorney, no non-Pats fan will ever believe he didnt know what was going on.

    The fumbling records since 2007 are very troubling. If I was a player on the other 31 teams, I would be licking my chops to play the Cheaters* and get some payback.

  140. Steelcurtain,

    Riiiiight, the steelers who trip players running down the sideline, tape signals, and initiated the steroid era (Roid curtain), are the bastion of integrity. You’re as big a fraud as the Wells report.

  141. Paranoid Pats fans,

    What reason would the NFL commissioner have for wanting the Patriots to look bad? They’re the league champion and are owned by one of his friends. If anything, Goodell would have wanted them to be exonerated. It looks terrible for your league’s champion to be caught cheating in a year where they won the title.

  142. We have 31 fan-bases and 1 commissioner who found Brady guilty right from the get go. We have 1 fan base who is angry, but should be laughing because they just won the superbowl and no one can take that away, especially not the 31 jealous fanbases. Both sides suck. #NFLSUCKSNOW #WATCHAREALSPORT

  143. What you are ignoring is that the Pats had a similar number of actual fumbles as the other teams in this period, but what they did do was recover a higher percentage of their own fumbles than other teams did.

    Which leads people who only look at the surface numbers to draw the conclusion you have. Which is wrong.
    ____________
    Where is this self recovered fumble data? You are applying the supposed Pats self recovered fumbles to this data without applying the self recovered fumbles of the other teams. Lets see all the data for every team. You are trying to justify something that’s plain as day. They cheated.

  144. Best comment on here–

    “Lol. People want The Magnificent TBrady to hand over his phone while they are complaining about the government invading their privacy.”

    #HYPOCRITES

  145. OF COURSE Brady won’t let Wells have his phone–the Patriot Way forbids turning anything over. By any means necessary.

    Odds are that phone is already in a landfill with Hernandez’s Glock.

  146. The reason is that you bobos hammer him for a non-issue event like a football a fraction of a psi low. So now, he thinks he’s got to run out in front of the media and issue a ridiculous penalty for a nothing issue. It’s all you maggots have to hold on to. Jealousy is a bigger crime.

  147. Boston radio is in FULL denial and crying victim mode. When the Steelers were the whipping boy you were silent about Goodell’s heavy handedness.

  148. I make a living in conflict resolution. I have also been engaged as an expert witness. Wells can claim he’s “independent” (form over substance) in order to allow the NFL to take certain procedural actions under the CBA. Wells can also engage “experts” (form over substance) to rely on to limit his and his firm’s liability. Wells can prepare a one-sided report (he did) that has a finding “more probable than not” (total bs) that allows Goodell to use his rights under the CBA to come down hard on Brady and the Patriots (which he did).

    Now Brady and Kraft get to play their hand.

    1. Don’t appeal. Just prove yourself between the lines.

    2. Appeal to a kangaroo process controlled by Goodell that will likely reduce the penalty in return for promises that all parties waive any additional actions or claims. Then, prove yourself between the lines.

    3. Go rogue (if you can, because the NFL likely has limited your potential to do so in countless ways).

  149. “…can we stop with the ”brady is better than montana debate”. brady has tarnished his career, his superbowls are tainted….”
    ==============================
    Sure can. Rice tarnished Montana’s stats and wins. If you must use **, then use them on both.

  150. Sounds like Wells went deeper down the rabbit hole than Kraft and Belichick were willing to allow. Who knows what other deception he may have found in his investigation?

  151. I notice Ted Wells didn’t have any comment on Page 90 of his report.

    For those unfamiliar, Page 90 contains texts by one of the equipment guys. In the texts, all of which are in relation to the Patriots/Jets game earlier in the year, the topic of discussion is the ball PSI.

    Tom Brady complained to the equipment guys that the officials had set the PSI of the balls too high. In the texts, the equipment guy states that he tested the balls after the game and that Brady was right. The officials had inflated the balls pre-game to 16 PSI, over the legal limit and that the balls were supposed to have been set to 13PSI.

    Let that sink in for a moment.

    The body of the texts shows that not only did Brady not ask for the balls to be under-inflated, he specifically asked for them to be set at 13PSI, within the legal limit.

    It wasn’t Tom Brady or the Equipment guys that broke the rules, it was the league’s own officials.

    It’s there, in the report. Look it up yourself if you like.

  152. Maybe Ted Wells and Marilyn Moseby can go to a concert together and talk about please the screamers strategies. This isnt giing to play out well for Wells. A formidable double edge machine is rolling out of their respective garages; the New England Patriots Legal Machine, and the Tom Brady Legal Machine. Working seperately and jointly. Goodell has very little political capital left, with the public and now behemoth owner(s).

    More probable that not, generally aware, two pressure guages registering wildly different results, a Wells pressured official, a New England Employee interviewed three times by the NFL and once by Wells (like theres a difference), Bradys outstanding cooperation, and Wells panting for ill take your word for it documents…

    And Wells is reacting like a screaming meme, and New England / Brady have yet to fire their first shot. In my opinion, the Patriots, Brady, and PatsNation will demand nothing less than complete exhonoration. No suspension, no fine, no loss of draft picks. I personally want to see rhe Patriots lose. Im a die hard Miami fan. I want Brady under center when we win – both games.

    PFT has done an outstanding job of providing fair balanced coverage on this story. A lot of moving pieces.

  153. Perhaps Ted Wells can tell us why he chose to ignore Walt Anderson’s best recollection on which gauge he used to test the balls before the game.

    Or why he hired a firm known to deny second-hand smoke causes cancer.

    Maybe, if he was so concerned with protecting Brady’s phone privacy, he can tell us why he posted McNally’s texts to his mother in the report, for the whole world to see, even though they had nothing at all to do with deflating game balls.

  154. The integrity of the game is at stake. Bill and Tom have done more then anyone in history to destroy it. The league had no other option then making a strong statement.

  155. The integrity of the game is at stake. Bill and Tom have done more then anyone in history to destroy it. The league had no other option then making a strong statement.
    ===
    You know that BB was completely exonerated, right?

  156. brady got caught doing what most every nfl qb has done or does for as long as the game has been played

  157. harrisonhits2 says:
    May 12, 2015 2:37 PM
    Wells is a highly paid league schill with only one goal, to deliver to Goodell what Goodell wanted. What Goodell wanted was something slanted to make the Pats look bad, not anything that actually examined the facts from a neutral perspective.
    ————–
    So, you think the NFL wanted to make the Superbowl champions, one of their greatest owners, and NFL MVP and poster boy QB look bad? Is that what you want us to believe?

    Here’s an idea. Next time you want the Patriots judged on the “facts”, have the Patriots cooperate and actually supply the “facts” (evidence). Brady answered all the questions did he? Yes, many suspects are “fully cooperative”, and answer every question. Of course, they answer with lies, and only confess when presented with the evidence.

  158. What you are ignoring is that the Pats had a similar number of actual fumbles as the other teams in this period, but what they did do was recover a higher percentage of their own fumbles than other teams did.

    Which leads people who only look at the surface numbers to draw the conclusion you have. Which is wrong.

    This is not correct.

    If you look at the total fumbles – not recovered but total – the Pats fumbled about 1/45 plays between 2003-2006 and 1/74 plays starting in 2007 through 2014.

    Those are the numbers that matter.

    From 2003-2006 the Pats were never in the top 10 of the NFL in terms of fumbling (with 1 being least fumbles) and in fact in 2006 were #22.

    In 2007 they were #1 and between 2007-2014 they were in the top five every year with the exception of 2013 when Brady played with a broken hand.

    Something dramatic changed for the Pats in the off season between the 2006 – 2007 seasons.

    We know the rule changed, if you can provide other changes we’re all ears.

  159. jetrainer says:
    May 12, 2015 4:57 PM
    Maybe Ted Wells and Marilyn Moseby can go to a concert together and talk about please the screamers strategies. This isnt giing to play out well for Wells. A formidable double edge machine is rolling out of their respective garages; the New England Patriots Legal Machine, and the Tom Brady Legal Machine. Working seperately and jointly. Goodell has very little political capital left, with the public and now behemoth owner(s).

    More probable that not, generally aware, two pressure guages registering wildly different results, a Wells pressured official, a New England Employee interviewed three times by the NFL and once by Wells (like theres a difference), Bradys outstanding cooperation, and Wells panting for ill take your word for it documents…

    And Wells is reacting like a screaming meme, and New England / Brady have yet to fire their first shot. In my opinion, the Patriots, Brady, and PatsNation will demand nothing less than complete exhonoration. No suspension, no fine, no loss of draft picks. I personally want to see rhe Patriots lose. Im a die hard Miami fan. I want Brady under center when we win – both games.

    PFT has done an outstanding job of providing fair balanced coverage on this story. A lot of moving pieces.
    ____________________

    To compare Ted Wells to Moseby is simply juvenile. You may not like his conclusions, but I think if you are smart enough to recognize it, you don’t like the NFL for accepting the concepts in his report and acting on it. Wells has responded to challenges to his integrity. Funny how Mr. Brady only reaction publicly was I have to finish reading it! You mean he did not have enough offense to his integrity to say the typical Patriot, plain vanilla, I don’t agree with the report, but this is a process.

    Screaming meme? He simply defends parts of the report that are being misrepresented by both Brady’s agent and Mr. Kraft.

    I wouldn’t be too quick to think there will be throngs of countersuits and a major legal assault. At the point some if those happen Mr. Brady’s phone and records might then fall in to the realm of a subpoena.

    Oh, since since Brady will be appeal the discipline though the NFLPA, this will not be a court. This is the NFL. Courts have found that the collectively bargained agreement between owners and players covers most matters between the league and players. In fact, while I don’t have that information, something tells me that Karft fought for the structure of the league and Goddell presiding over matters. Can’t have it both ways just because the system is against you.

  160. This idiot Wells is talking out of both sides of his mouth. Would you hand over a phone to the league office that had so many leaks it looked like a sive. I wouldn’t either. This would never stand up in court. Don’t be surprised if it ends up there.

  161. I wonder how the “Frauds” wife & kids (the Brady bunch) think of all this? I feel sorry for the kids having to be ridiculed as you know it being done.

  162. Your a punk crybaby Brady move move on u are a cheater you got caught deal with it you are know longer a role model for kids only liars and cheaters will respect you forever good luck chump

  163. Jeez, armchair lawyers…

    The 5th amendment doesn’t apply. The NFL isn’t the US Government.

    He is employed by the NFL.

    The rules state that you will fully cooperate. That would include providing the requested information. That would also include making McNally available for another interview.

  164. Brady has just hired Jeffrey Kessler to represent him.

    Holy cow, he is not screwing around.

  165. I’m done with this! I am so sick of these Pat’s fans saying their team and Brady did nothing wrong, it’s beyond ridiculous.

  166. Time to investigate what Peyton really did in Germany?

    Where does the league go from here? You are suspending one of the faces of the league based on a report that says this guy probably knew about the deflating of the football’s, not 100% sure , just have a pretty good gut feeling. 4 games are lost for player involvement, loss of team draft picks over 2 drafts and team fine of a million dollars is the bar going into 2015-16 for deflating footballs.

  167. The reason Brady won’t turn over the electronic communications that were requested is because it would incriminate him.

    If he does appeal the suspension, the arbitrator is going to want to see the electronic communications as well. And I don’t think Brady will turn it over then either, so I have a feeling the suspension will stand because either, he continues to impede the investigation, or he turns over the communications and incriminates himself.

  168. At last we have found the real liar and cheater of Deflategate, Ted Wells !!!

    No more NFL contract, a scientific failure, and goodnight Roger, his buddy.

  169. all you have to do to see what the leagye office thinks of brady or the pats is think back to the second gaints super bowl win over the pats>the first play from scrimmage , brady throws a ball 50 yds down the middle of the field from the end zone >the ref calls a safety on brady for rounding the ball .
    the pats never recovered from that call.

  170. I heard Ted Wells ranting on the radio today, he sounded almost like he was coming unhinged at one point. It’s funny, but I always imagined he’d sound like Higgins from Magnum P.I. but, he doesn’t. He just sounds like a real jerk. Not as big of a jerk as Goodell, I guess, though.

  171. Originally I thought it was just the “Spyman” Belicheat & the “Deflator” Brady that harbored the culture of cheating in Boston. After seeing the outpouring of “who cares” attitudes from Bostonians, I have to believe it all comes from a fan base that are cheaters also…

  172. *******************************************
    (fan quote) Teddy, where are the texts that show Brady telling the ball boys to make sure to have the balls at the legal PSI? (end quote)
    *******************************************
    *******************************************

    Do you even see how stupid you just made your defensive comment look? Why would any quarterback text the locker room attendent or any other maintenance personnel for that matter, ANYTHING regarding PSI in the footballs? And making sure they are legal? Lmao. He’s guilty

  173. Tom deflated balls to give his team an advantage, less fumbles and a better grip on the ball to deliver it to his receivers. Turnovers can swing a game and give a team a L. One loss here and there last season and the Pats don’t have home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Why cheat? Because it makes a big difference when you are vying for a 1 seed. It makes a difference during a SB run. He cheated the game, he cheated the fans, he cheated the NFL and his legacy.

  174. unbreakable02215 says:
    May 12, 2015 2:45 PM
    Didn’t he examine the 2 ball boys phones ? Wouldn’t that have shown any dialog they had had with Brady ?

    How come I can figure this out ?
    ——-
    You must feel so proud of yourself, with high 5’s all around.

    Okay Sherlock, did you even once consider to “figure out” that more probable than not there was also communication from Brady to Belachick or whomever else during the first 72 hours after the fallout of the Pat’s getting caught. Of course you didn’t, you were too busy congratulating yourself for being so bright, but at the end of the day your deduction, being far to limited in its scope, was a complete failure.

  175. Why do I get the feeling that the conversation went like this:

    Wells: So Tom, yes or no have you stopped beating your wife?

    Brady: NO!! I mean yes! Wait. What just happened here?

    Wells: Ah ha, no further questions

    Then Scarecrow aka Goodell : DEATH or EXILE

  176. ninerswilldominatelikebefore says:
    May 12, 2015 2:35 PM
    COLIN KAEPERNICK WILL BE THE 2015 MVP!!
    ARIK ARMSTEAD IS THE NEXT JJ WATT!!

    *************************

    I wish you well with that. We miss the competition of a couple of years ago. Great rivalry!

  177. OK Snidely Whiplash, you’ve had your 15 minutes of fame and botched a completely biased investigation in favor of the Ex Jets in the NFL front office, Kensil et al, now it’s time for you to go wax your mustache.

    Pete Rozelle, where are you?

  178. Listen to the cheater fans calling Wells a liar and he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and he’s just a puppet for the league office.
    Now go back and read the cheaters comments when he was investigating the Dolphins and bullygate
    Quite the opposite
    Bunch of dummys

  179. Stop complaining pat fans, you got off easy. At least he didn’t put him on the comish list…where you languish in purgatory. You know how long he’s gone, with plenty of time to plan. Only 4 games? Try losing your best player for 15, all the while having hopes that he’ll be back sooner. You guys got special treatment, as always….

  180. Never mind what security has to say? Coming from the pats. You know the ones that watch out for any wrong doing.

  181. You can spin this any way you see fit,in the end he cheated and I think it has been a lot more than just one game.Wells has fought back with truths and honesty – Can’t say the same for Kraft or Brady.

  182. I love how Pats haters extoll the virtues of Ted Wells’ intelligence and genius….

    … which is why in his conference call someone is feeding him his lines.

    have a listen.

  183. Clearly Vincent doesnt understand the report and now it looks like Wells doesn’t either.

    Pats fans are united with other victims of this petty, vindictive brain-dead organization.

    The only consistency at League HQ is the total hypocrisy.

  184. The fumble talk is a joke. In 2007 patriots signed Welker and moss and went on a tear Passing the ball. They have been a passing team since. Common sense says you fumble less when a Corner back tackles you immediately after a catch than say a running back running up the middle.

  185. As a laywer why don’t you explain the 5th amendment and how it cover not incriminating ones self…

    1) The 5th Amendment limits the government’s power, and has nothing to do with the NFL. If Wells had tortured a confession out of Brady, that wouldn’t be Wells overstepping his Constitutional authority (because he doesn’t have any), it would be a criminal act.

    2) The Self-Incrimination clause was designed to prevent coerced confessions. Evidence on a phone, in a safe, or in a pizza box is not self-incriminating. Tom Brady is not a phone, a safe, or a pizza box.

    If this was a criminal case, his refusal to hand over the phone wouldn’t be protected by the 5th, but by the 1st. The investigators couldn’t just take the phone, they would need a warrant, and that’s easy. At that point, they can seize the phone, the request is just a courtesy.

    sooooo if wells thinks proof is in the texts Brady then doesnt have to hand them over and can’t be punished for doing so

    Brady didn’t have to hand over his phone, and in fact, didn’t do it – but he certainly can be punished for not cooperating with a League investigation.

    The idea that NFL personnel or teams can’t be punished for not cooperating with a League investigation is ridiculous. When has that ever been OK?

  186. The patriots caught cheating again. If they want to save face they should do the right thing and return the Super Bowl, they won under false pretences. When an Olympic athlete is caught cheating they have to return their medal, when an NCAA football team is caught cheating their bowl wins are erased from history. Do the right thing Pats and Return the Super Bowl that you did not deserve.

  187. Brady didn’t have to hand over his phone, and in fact, didn’t do it – but he certainly can be punished for not cooperating with a League investigation.
    ===
    Nope. CBA doesn’t impose that duty on him.

  188. I don’t see anything whatsoever in the CBA regarding investigations, cooperation and refusal. So I suspect it’s covered in some other document. Which makes “It’s not in the CBA” just another dodge. Since you’re so concerned about Brady’s rights with regard to cooperating in the investigation, perhaps you could actually provide us with some information regarding which document covers this and what it specifically says.

  189. Zen, I read your stuff elsewhere occasionally, so I know you meant the 4th. That’s what you get for posting at 3 AM, after a bender, no doubt.

    Also, I would say that it’s not a lock that personnel can be disciplined for refusing to surrender personal papers in an investigation, unless the papers were known to contain intellectual property belonging to the employer. I’m not convinced that refusing to surrender personal papers constitutes conduct detrimental to the integrity of football.

    You can make the argument that not cooperating with the investigation is unbecoming or projects obfuscation or dishonesty to the public when the issue itself is cheating and dishonesty, and that would be a good argument. But the public wouldn’t have known that Brady refused to surrender his phone if the NFL hadn’t publicized the fact. The refusal to surrender the phone itself isn’t conduct detrimental to the integrity of football unless that information is public. So, I don’t think the NFL can discipline a player simply for refusing to surrender their personal papers. But the stonewalling can be taken into account when determining the penalty for any demonstrated misconduct, which is what the NFL seems to have done.

  190. The NFL didn’t publicize the fact other than releasing the Wells Report, which specifically mentioned that Wells (and company) had requested permission to access relevant data on Brady’s phone and been refused. Similarly, they requested a 2nd interview with McNally several times and were refused. Those items are germane to the results of the investigation itself, which makes them detrimental.

    As for the penalty, the NFL seems to have lumped both issues together and assigned one combined penalty. I would have preferred that they break up the items and hand out suspensions for both the collusion/conspiracy and the obstruction. It would certainly have a bearing on the appeals process.

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