John Elway agrees with the punishments for the Patriots

AP

Broncos General Manager John Elway says NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell did the right thing by suspending Tom Brady and docking the Patriots $1 million and two draft picks as a result of Deflategate.

“The integrity of the game is No. 1,” Elway said. “I support the commissioner 100 percent.”

Elway said he didn’t spend a lot of time thinking about how long Brady’s suspension should be because he knew it would be less than 11 games, which is what it would have to be to keep him from playing the Broncos.

“I knew that Tom Brady was going to be playing in Week 12,” he said.

Even though the Broncos will still have to face him, Brady’s suspension is good news for the Broncos and for all the other AFC contenders, as it gives those teams a leg up on the Patriots in the battle for home-field advantage in the AFC playoffs. Suspending Brady and stripping picks from the Patriots is beneficial to the Broncos.

211 responses to “John Elway agrees with the punishments for the Patriots

  1. Of course he does! He knows if the Patriots don’t get the #1 seed then his team has a chance. If not, they can’t even get pass Indy.

  2. All intelligent fans think Goodell is a liar, a power hungry, incompetent joke, and thinkmthis punishment will be reversed.

    Anyone with a brain knows the NFL scam investigation, and un-independent investigation was started to punish Tom Brady & the Patriots.

    Im not a Patriots fan, but the NFL is a fraud and Goodell & Wells are scam artists. Goodell is a clown

  3. Elway? What a joke. Draining the coffers of his team’s payroll with an overpaid, washed up noodle armed QB who chokes in the playoffs each year. Even John Fox was smart enough to bail on that groundhog day scenario playing out yet again this season. Yea, that’s real bright Elway. You should have stuck with car sales.

  4. Thats rich coming from Elway who benefitted from his lineman spraying a substance on their jerseys that would make defensive linemans hands slip off their jerseys, and an organization that got fined 2x for salary cap violations and front office peronnel with more than a few DUIs on their records

  5. Tom brady & the NE patriots are a complete embarassment. 15 years of cheating for that criminal enterprise. All of the world is laughing at you. LOL

  6. Should have suspended him indefinitely until he handed over his phone and co-operated fully.

  7. You live in a town where no one ever gets a ticket for not observing the speed limit. Than one day a guy speeds. They give him the death penalty. Fair?

    Discuss amongst yourselves.

  8. Broncos fan here:

    Even we all know how formidable the Pats are to face regardless of the circumstances. Everybody was saying Brady was done for after the first few weeks of 2014, but he went on to throttle us a few weeks later. It’s not about having an advantage; it’s about having a smooth operation in house, and until we can (hopefully) prove that we are better on the field, there’s no such thing as teams benefitting indirectly from another team’s actions in the NFL.

  9. Only Pats fanboys think they’re innocent. This scummy franchise has been cheating for a decade. Everything they’ve accomplished has to be questioned.

  10. That is the type of answer you would expect from Elway. Latching on to a bogus premise says much about a man’s integrity. He knows better.

  11. Integrity of the game.

    Now, when the commissioner decides to vacate the Bronco’s Super Bowl* wins due to Salarycapgate, will you support that decision as well? That infraction was actually proven.

  12. Anyone with common sense can see through this as a white-collar political answer. ‘I respect the integrity of the game #1’ – now let me kiss a baby.

    But also, I helped work with the Broncos to cheat in the Salary cap era for our team during our final 2 superbowls.

    Our local radio hosts on 1043 the Fan, former linebackers, some ESPN analysts, have admitted too putting vaseline on their arms, anti-stickum on their jerseys and a sleau of other things in good spirit of the game discussion.

    ‘Let me also say that in all legitimacy. The Patriots scored more than 8 points with the highest level of security around the Patriots Balls for the Superbowl. And realistically. I would say its a 17-35 game, with Tom coming back off suspension in an angry fashion in week 12’

    ‘Nobody has clearly ever broke the rules in the NFL except or especially the Patriots, and I give our team very little chance against a healthy New England team, but I will reiterate that spite subliminally here. But “I support the commissioner 100 percent.”‘

  13. Anyone with common sense can see through this as a white-collar political answer. ‘I respect the integrity of the game #1′ – now let me kiss a baby.

    But also, I helped work with the Broncos to cheat in the Salary cap era for our team during our final 2 superbowls.

    Our local radio hosts on 1043 the Fan, former linebackers, some ESPN analysts, have admitted too putting vaseline on their arms, anti-stickum on their jerseys and a sleau of other things in good spirit of the game discussion.

    ‘Let me also say that in all legitimacy. The Patriots scored more than 8 points with the highest level of security around the Patriots Balls for the Superbowl. And realistically. I would say its a 17-35 game, with Tom coming back off suspension in an angry fashion in week 12′

    ‘Nobody has clearly ever broke the rules in the NFL except or especially the Patriots, and I give our team very little chance against a healthy New England team, but I will reiterate that spite subliminally here. But “I support the commissioner 100 percent.”‘

  14. Hey John, if the Broncos didn’t manipulate the salary cap you wouldn’t have won any Super Bowls. None.
    “Integrity” is not a word associated with the Denver Broncos. So shut it..

  15. He does realize that he should not talk about cheating after he couldn’t win a Super Bowl without manipulating the salary cap in multiple seasons?

  16. Funny, was Elway concerned about the integrity of the game when Bowlen was paying him and Terrell Davis under the table during their Super Bowl runs?

    And if Bowlen was doing that I can only imagine what other shenanigans they were up to.

  17. “The integrity of the game is No. 1,” Elway said. “I support the commissioner 100 percent.”…Unless it was Peyton.

  18. Hey John – remember when the Broncos were caught cheating the salary cap? I’m sure you didn’t care for integrity back then. So many hypocrites in this league.

  19. The Broncos were caught cheating the cap twice during Elway’s Super Bowls. His rings are useless and tainted. Sorry, truth hurts.

  20. He’s just happy because now the Broncos don’t hold the title for the biggest fine for cheating

  21. The draft picks are what really hurts the patriots! 2 games suspension for Brady would have been realistic! Sure would like to see a vote of the other 31 owners as too the justification!!!!

  22. Of course. Just don’t google “Elway cap violations” or “Peyton Manning European clinic.”

  23. Too bad for you horse face Brady will be there to beat your team again.

    Like a Jack Del Rio coached D, Brady also owns a Wade Phillips coached D.

  24. Seems like most non partial football people seem to think the punishment is fair and fits the crime , I tend to agree other than the fact that the hoodie was not suspended . As they said about Sean Payton ” Ignorance is not an excuse, as head coach it is your job to know”

  25. @PhD–Yeah…he sold the car dealerships for $80M+, but lost a chunk of that in other investments later on.

    More to the point, though, given the cheating to which the Broncos resorted to win Super Bowls in his final seasons, he qualifies as Hypocrite Supreme for this statement .

  26. The New England Patsy’s (the fans who support a cheating team that has been cheating THEM out of money) continue to insist that this was some kind of plot by the NFL.

    Riiiiiight.

    Because a billion dollar industry wants their current champion to be exposed as cheaters. That makes all the sense in the world. Goodall wants to tarnish the brand because [insert genuinely insane reason here].

  27. In come Pats fans crying about the Broncos now. If we have learned one thing in spygate, its that their fan base is not accountable and has no integrity.

  28. I’m betting that McDaniels knew what was going on as the offensive coordinator. Anyone check his phone?

  29. I still Just am not seeing this whole thing being an issue. IF TB12 did cheat. Which he didn’t! Why the fine and pics taken from the New England Patriots organization? Everybody cheats. EVERYBODY!!! My uncles cousin is a Ref and he said this whole thing is a joke. I quote “it’s well know, Every Organization is looking for a advantage”
    Not to worried about the 4game suspension, we’ll see what JimmyG is capable of! But the next years draft pick in first round is rediciolous for not having complete evidence and the fact that the crime is absolutely a misdemeanor. Go Pats Nation & getem Mr Kraft 🏈🏆🏆🏆🏆🙌

  30. Elway then added that cheating on the salary cap is the best way to promote the integrity of the game.
    .

  31. integrity of the game? are you kidding? his o-linemen were busted for using VASELINE on their jerseys in the 90s and he himself benefitted off the broncos salary cap violations and now he’s talking about “preserving the integrity of the game?” he is by definition a “super bowl loser” both as player and GM.

  32. This guy has a set saying anything in regards to punishment!!! Isn’t he the same John Elway who along with Terrell Davis took money outside the cap so his team could sign free agents and win 2 Super Bowls.

  33. John Elway never saw the heights, or breathed the air Tom Brady has. Just a jealous QB with a major benefit from the ruling. In my opinion, anyone who stands to benefit from a discipline issue, should have the class to simply keep their mouth shut and stay out of the controversy.

  34. So the league came down hard on the Pats for “not cooperating”. But they did cooperate except for two things. Brady turning over his personal cell phone, and not letting McNally sit for a fifth interview. Now in the Mueller report for the Rice investigation, Goodell did not turn over his personal cell phone. We all know why. He probably saw the video before he claimed. Also, the Chargers were using sticky towels on balls, the NFL investigated, and the Chargers refused to cooperate. So what punishment did Goodell hand down? A $25,000. fine.
    This is Goodell going after the team the other 31 owners are trying to beat, to curry favor with those owners and keep his overpaid job, which is soon to be private so we won’t know how much he is making.
    When the real lawyers take a look at this witch hu….err investigation, we will really see the bias and incompetence in the NFL office.

  35. Where was ol’ horsefaces thoughts on punishments when he was accepting money off the books so he could win a Super Bowl?

  36. Something had to be done about the Patriots because they have destroyed the competitive balance of the league. Other teams couldn’t stay with them, so the league had to run a sting operation on New England.

  37. Repeat offenders. The penalties are light. Probably not enough to keep them from trying to skirt the rules again. This speaks more to the Belichick culture than to anything else.

  38. That means Denver’s owner supports the punishment, or Elway wouldn’t be supporting it. The tide is turning. No way the Patriots got that punishment without the support of a majority of the other owners. Time for the cheating to end. Super Bowls should be won by the best team, not the best cheaters.

  39. I don’t think home field is necessarily an advantage for Tom Brady. He started letting air out of the balls so that he could get a better grip in January when it’s cold and raining in Boston. He grips the ball fine inside of a dome or in warmer weather.

  40. well sheesh if Elway agrees with the punishment then it must be ok….(sarcasm off)……I hate the Pats with a passion BUT I’m not going to let my hatred get in the way of the facts…..GO STEELERS!!!!

  41. Of course he does. and so does everyone else outside of Beantown.

    These Deflatriots excuse makers are the worst. Dumb, delusional fans, if you can call them that.

  42. When Elway was playing the Broncos got into trouble over salary cap violations over his contract multiple times resulting in a fine and loss of a draft pick.

    Broncos fans – it is a good thing that Goodell was not commissioner back then because instead of loosing a mid-round draft pick who knows what the punishment would have been to the team that won 2 Super Bowls in 97 & 98.

    Should the Broncos Super Bowl seasons have asterisks next to them?

  43. It’s amazing how people forget how nasty & dirty it became between Elway & Baltimore when Accorsi drafted Elway after Elway made it clear he would not play for the Colts. The situation was 1000x more ugly & it compromised the league a lot more than Eli not wanting to go to San Diego. There were public fights & Elway saying some really nasty things. Eli was quiet & handled it with loads more class than Elway did but instead of comphrehending the truth about both situations, Elway is forgiven for how he FORCED that trade & Eli is vilified on these boards for acting a lot more classy than Elway did in the same situation. The Elway to the Broncos situation was much more of a circus for the league than Eli to NY anyday, either you are are just too young to remember or are too dumb to care.

  44. Integrity?!?! Integrity Mr. Elway? Hows crying until you get your way to get out of Baltimore for integrity.. Ole’ Horseface is the last person that I want to hear a lesson about integrity from

  45. They should suspend Peyton Manning for 4 games so his arm isn’t a wet noodle in December.

  46. Wow he forgot he was part salarycapgate.

    In the years where they didn’t follow the cap rules, the Broncos’ top player, quarterback John Elway, was paid around 5.4% of the legal cap space, which was 1.2% less than the next closest team. Even more telling, Elway’s cap charges in the Broncos’ 1997 and 1998 Super Bowl seasons were just $2.1 and $2.6 million respectively. By comparison Miami Dolphins quarterback Dan Marino, who would be the most logical comparison, had cap charges of $4.3 and $7.6 million. The implication is that Elway took a relatively low cap hit, but received outside-the-cap funds to compensate for that.

  47. Ha – that’s rich. He owes his 2 rings to Denver circumnavigating the salary cap; a FAR bigger advantage than air coming out of a football.

    Listen, I’m not a NE fan, but if you’re a fan of any team you can’t like what Goodell and co. have done here. The punishments handed down are not commensurate with the act (intentionally deflating footballs), but instead were made up on the fly because the NFL didn’t like how NE responded (or didn’t respond) to their questions.

    Giving Goodell more power, unchecked, is bad for all teams, players and fans. Elway is smiling his horse-tooth smile now, but his lackey Goodell will have no choice going forward if Denver is found out to have skirted some minor (Yes, MINOR you sanctimonious asshats) rule, he’ll have to lower the overzealous hammer on them too.

  48. It is also interesting to note how the media for the NFL partners (NBC and ESPN is particular – I don’t read much on CBS) are far more condemning of NE/Brady and supportive of the NFL than other news outlets which at least seem to look at both sides.

  49. If Brady didn’t have anything to hide he would of let them look at his phone records . He didn’t let them because he had something to hide. End of story!!!!

  50. Everyone will support Goodell until he screws over their team, and if he has the position long enough, I’m sure he will.

  51. His Bronco’s cheated on the salary cap so they could keep Terrel Davis on the team so Elway is among many former Bronco’s who should keep his mouth shut. Shanahan also had lip readers on the sidelines to steal signals. Since this isn’t something the Patriot’s did, nobody cares to bring this up.

  52. Now there is a revelation. Of course he agrees with it because his team is one of the chief beneficiaries. But John your team will be once again playing golf as the Pats march toward another SB win. FREE TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!

  53. John Elway took deferred payments so the Broncos could cheat the salary cap and his linemen were busted for coating themselves in vaseline in the playoffs so defensive linemen couldn’t push them. But he’s all about the integrity of the game.

  54. Not only did Bucktooth Johnny’s team cheat with the salary cap (twice) and lost a 3rd round pick and $1 million, but they also videotaped a walk through of a 49ers practice before a game in London.

  55. I’d say busting the salary cap (27 million?! at that time, that was over HALF THE CAP!!!) is infinitely worse than possibly having a general knowledge of maybe deflating some balls, lol.

    But hey, integrity of the game is the most important…

    lol

  56. integrity of the game, John?

    •DL Daryl Gardener (2003)
    •LB Lee Flowers (2003)
    •WR Adrian Madise (2004)
    •P Todd Sauerbrun (2006)
    •DE Kenny Peterson (2007)
    •TE Virgil Green (2012)
    •LB D.J. Williams (2012)
    •DT Ryan McBean (2012)
    •G Quentin Saulsberry (2012)
    •LB Von Miller (2013) – Substance abuse, but cheated urine collection system
    •WR Wes Welker (2014)

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    SUMMARY: On September 17, 2004, the league announced that, for the second time in three years, the Denver Broncos were fined nearly a million dollars and would, once again, lose their third-round draft pick because of salary cap violations between 1996 and 1998.

    Tainted***

  57. Legacies…Montana and Elway, never accused of cheating, two of the best that ever played…Brady, well he had to cheat a little, but he’s still got super bowl rings.

  58. What a goofball

    Both of his titles were won by teams that had more star players on it than the rules allowed. That’s a pretty clear competitive advantage.

    Be glad you guys are all getting a 4 game head start this year.

  59. Elway and his Broncos along with my Niners and those punks from Dallas made the league set up a hard cap to offset all the shenanigans that were pulled by these teams. I had no problem with it then if you can get away with it. Problem is society is a PC crybaby world that forces everyone to conform to a pathetic attempt to force one train of thought with no discussion. Otherwise your ostracized. Screw all this .

  60. I’m glad Elway is for the integrity of the game…you know, like ensuring that the worst teams get the highest draft picks in the subsequent year’s draft. Right John?

  61. Im not a Pats fan but I believe the NFL had it out for them the minute the Pats found a flaw in the rule book that allowed an Offensive lineman to score a touch down….

  62. John Elway rides Peyton’s coattails. All the talent on that team outside of QB was drafted by McDainels. Elway will be exposed as soon as Peyton quits, maybe sooner.

  63. So John Elway suddenly wants to comment on “INTEGRITY?”

    REALLY?

    Hey – Mr. Elway, could please comment on “INTEGRITY” regarding players refusing to play for the team that draft’s them?

    Hello? Mr. Elway? John ? Ah… Hello? is this thing on?

    Oh yeah – I believe it went something…errr… EXACTLY like this …

    “but Elway had different ideas. First, he publicly stated he refused to join the Colts, feeling the team would not allow him to be successful, then, after Baltimore selected him anyway, he demanded a trade.”

    Somehow I don’t think this is “INTEGRITY” John; NOPE – these are more of “DISHONOR” and/or “DECIETFUL” actions of a selfish & spoiled athlete.

    By the way – just for the record – for those who may don’t know – “DISHONOR” & “DECIETFUL”… those are the exact opposites of “INTEGRITY.”

    John Elway nor Eli Manning should EVER try and defend or comment on anything regarding “INTEGRITY” – PERIOD.

  64. This is all about weakening the Patriots on the field. They have defied the odds that any team in this era of parity can have a winning record such as theirs and have thus undermined the NFL goal of mediocrity for all, which in turn retains interest in all markets and produces a larger revenue stream.
    Goodell is ruining the game and is an incompetent manager. His mnotto is if you can’t beat ’em on the field, lie about them and undermine them any way you can. What a disgrace he and his minions are.

  65. The Broncos just added themselves to the list of teams Tom Brady says out loud before he goes to sleep.

    “Colts….Jets….Broncos…”

  66. So sayeth the man who’s team cheated the salary cap to pay TD and himself so he could go out on top…. pot meet kettle….

  67. See this is exactly why Patriots fans are outraged by this punishment. When you hear comments from a guy that benefited from his owner and GM circumventing “the integrity of the game” and then has the gall to sound off about this stuff like he’s holier than thou. The hypocrisy that exists around the league is shameful. I realize there are millions of people that hate the Patriots and they’re not going to change their minds about how they feel about them. But to no acknowledge that other teams and players constantly push the boundaries to gain competitive advantages and then go unpunished is ludicrous.

  68. Pot meet kettle. Manipulating the salary cap is far worse that Deflategate . If Deflategate even happened. The ONLY reason Brady and the Pats are being punished is because they didn’t cooperate 100% with the corrupt Keystone Cops investigation. Where, by the way, the outcome was predetermined.

  69. I really wish people would stop talking about this ideal gas law as if this really had an impact.

    When the game started, it was 53 degrees. When halftime rolled around it was 51 degrees. So you are telling me within an hour and a half, that over a lb of air pressure comes out during a 2 degree difference?

    Its not like it was 50 degrees and dropped to 30. There was a 2 degree change in temperature. That’s it.

  70. Well there is the pot calling the kettle black. The donkeys cheated on their back to back super bowl wins with Elway as the QB. They were over the cap both years. Thought we forgot about that, Johhny-boy?.

  71. People in glass houses love to throw stones.

    John Elway benefited from under the table Salary cap violations.

    Jerry Rice admitted to using stickum, a week before chastising the Patriots for 1/2 PSI underinflation.

  72. “The integrity of the game is No. 1,” Elway said.

    That is beyond pathetic. This is the guy who took millions in illegal deferred money to circumvent the salary cap back in the late 90s (look it up if you don’t know the story) when they won their two Super Bowls.

    The penalty for that pales in comparison to what was just handed down for actions only deemed “probable”, actions involving a slightly deflated football, actions which have been taken in some form by many quarterbacks over the years.

    Integrity? Are you kidding me, John Elway?!? You, OF ALL PEOPLE, are talking about integrity???

  73. What about when the Broncos CHEATED the salary cap to keep both you an d Terrel Davis and win two superbowls?

    That is 1000% more cheating than pumping in crowd noise, tampering, using stickem, using PEDs and all the rest of this stupid stuff together

  74. What a shock from a lying jerk who told the NFL that he was above the league back in 1983 when he would not play for the team that chose him in the draft. I have never believed a word he said and never will.

  75. But you had no problem cheating the salary cap to win your rings, Elway. Former players should not speak about cheating since they look like hypocrites.

  76. I’m a big Bronco fan, but our team isn’t likely to play in the big game for the foreseeable future because Elway doesn’t know how to draft top quality players.

    Most of his guys are serviceable but nothing more. That makes for average talent and you have to have better than that to reach the game, let alone win it.

    Add to that the QB situation – Manning is still above average, but not a top-5 guy and there is no legit back-up.

    As I see it the Patriots don’t have to worry about the Broncos.

  77. I guess it takes a cheater to know one. Elway’s Broncos were fined even more often than the Patriots for salary cap violations and cheating via offensive linemen putting Vaseline on their jerseys. Not to mention Coach Mike Shannahan’s admission that the team stole signals and used the same video taping practices the Patriots were fined for.

    The integrity of the game sounds pretty important John. Thanks for setting the bar nice and low.

  78. Any small advantage ol’ horse teeth can get he will take. Though it won’t matter because one of the above comments mentioned they wont be able to make it past Indy

  79. No, Brady’s suspension is good for all teams and fans because he’s a cheater and has been cheating for years; check the fumble stats by Pats pre and post rule change. Their fumbles dropped by almost half immediately.

    Obviously Belichick knew because that much of a change in such a key stat wouldn’t be missed.

    And it all starts with Kraft who judged Spygate not by whether it was legal, but whether it was effective.

    All three should have been booted for a year as repeat cheaters, the fine should have been $10m, it should have been four picks and Kraft should have been given notice that this was strike two, three and you’re out.

    You’ve got to wonder how good this team would or would not be without cheating.

    And considering how their fans whine, I think they assume “wouldn’t”.

  80. Didn’t John Elway and the Denver Broncos win both Super Bowls by circumventing the salary cap?????? Funny how Elway and Shannon Sharpe forget what the Broncos did seems like a far worse violation of the “integrity” of the game. I just wonder if the Broncos would have won those two Super Bowls if they weren’t several million dollars over the salary cap. 31 other teams didn’t cheat the salary cap and the Brincos did. Shannon Sharpe should read up on those violations before he starts throwing the word cheaters around.

  81. OK, another cry baby NFL team hoping that Brady & Pats won’t stand in their way in the playoffs.
    If air pressure was never an issue then why did it become the ‘NFL CRIME of the CENTURY’ with the Patriots?
    Answer: Because it was & is a biased, one-sided attempt to remove the Patriots Domination in the NFL.
    FACT #1: It DEFINITELY was a sting operation.
    If it were not a sting operation then the MAGNITUDE of a four month special investigation would never occurred.
    FACT #2: All sting operations are followed by a MASSIVE investigation and PROSECUTION.
    FACT #3: No EVIDENCE of wrong-doing by the Patriots followed by a ‘PROBABLY He did it’ with Penalties that overwhelmingly imply guilt and punishment ‘Light Years’ away from the NFL rule of $25K.
    FACT #4: The NFL breaks/violates it’s own rules in trying to establish a president against a team that has not broken the air pressure rule.
    FACT #1: It DEFINITELY was a sting operation.
    If it were not a sting operation then the MAGNITUDE of a four month special investigation would never occurred.
    FACT #2: All sting operations are followed by a MASSIVE investigation and PROSECUTION.
    FACT #3: No EVIDENCE of wrong-doing by the Patriots followed by a ‘PROBABLY He did it’ with Penalties that overwhelmingly imply guilt and punishment ‘Light Years’ away from the NFL rule of $25K.
    FACT #4: The NFL breaks/violates it’s own rules in trying to establish a precedent against a team and player with zero evidence.
    FACT #5: Well$ was and is, the prosecutor representing the NFL.
    Undeniable Evidence: 1.) Well$ never investigated the Colts 2.) Well$ never did look into the complaints of Kinsel & Grigson 3.) Well$ did not investigate or prosecute the Colts possession of the only football found to be 2 psi under. 4.) Well$ investigation was ONE-SIDED against the Patriots – never unbiased as he claims.
    IMPORTANT NEXT FACT
    5.)Well$ rejected the SCIENTIFIC – PROVABLE evidence of football air deflation by weather & temperature..
    When you reject scientific fact to promote your own opinion – you are BIASED and on a WITCH HUNT.

  82. To paraphrase John Oliver, having Roger Goodell protecting the integrity of the game is like hiring a dingo as your babysitter.

  83. Of course he agrees because it makes it easier for this team to get back to the Super Bowl (they won’t).

    I wonder if there were any follow up questions asking him to comment on how the Broncos cheated in order to win their two Super Bowls?

    I’m guessing no because exceeding the salary cap so you can keep players you otherwise couldn’t keep is no big deal it doesn’t give you the huge advantage that a PSI less in the ball would.

  84. I see Denver’s 2015 season going a similar path to Favre’s final season in Minnesota.

    I think they finished 6-10.

  85. Speaking of those Broncos teams and integrity, remember what Hugh Millen was saying about the communication system that old mate Shanahan had set up in the helmets of the Broncos offensive linemen? Go ahead, look it up.

  86. Patriot fans you guys must be all in your feelings because you are on these stories like white on rice. If this scandal is such a joke to you trolls why are you riding these stories so hard?

  87. Hmm…

    Reversal… That could happen…

    It wouldn’t surprise me that the there is a reversal.

    Since the report said the organization and the coach weren’t culpable, why should they be punished?

    I could see the reversal removing those specific punishments.

  88. The Broncos will be picking behind the Patriots next draft so the loss of the 1st rounder will move them up.

  89. The Patriots get benefits from this punishment too. During Brady’s suspension the team gets a salary cap credit which for four games is 1.88 million netting the organization $888,000 after their fine. (source Ben Volin) Also the benefit no one is talking about is they get a chance to see if their QB of the future is on the roster by him playing in game situations. If not they get a few drafts to get one before Brady retires. Though I don’t think they’ll find one in the 1st or 4th round next year. They can even trade him to get future picks if he does a decent job (Matt Cassel) possibly recouping one or more of those picks.
    In my mind only one thing will prove or disprove this whole mess. If the Pats fumble more next year. Also watching Ridley (who had a reputation for fumbling) to see how much he loses the ball for the Jets. As a betting man I would wager both puts the ball on the ground more.

  90. Broncos organization has more integrity of the game issues than any team in history. Goobers like Elway looking down on others for anything is just hilarious.

  91. Why announce Elway thinks the punishment is fitting without noting that as an NFL executive Elway could be currying favor with Goodell for future considerations? It is important to keep that in mind when deciding the honesty of Elway’s stated belief.

    Even better, why not include that Brett Favre, in a Fox News interview, thinks that Tom Brady is innocent? Favre presently has no ties to the NFL and likely will not for the foreseeable future. His opinion would seem to carry more weight than an NFL suit.

  92. I am tired of all of the ‘I am not a patriot fan, but this punishment is a joke’ crap. You must be some form of a patriot apologist or follower if you can look at this evidence and not see that some form of cheating was done. Either your blind or dumb!

  93. John is disappointed that is was not 12 games. Now they will face The Patriots at full strength when they host the Pats in week 12. I am disappointed that while the Cowboys and Washington had their Salary Cap truncated, the 96-98 Broncos got away scot free. $950,000 and a Trird rounder was a very cheap price to pay for two tainted SB wins.

  94. The irony of this is incredible.

    Remind me again what the punishment levied against the Broncos for their salary cap shenanigans in Elway’s last year?

  95. Great! Someone with no integrity agrees with the punishment. Not a ringing endorsement.

  96. This is the 2nd Super Bowl championship in 5 years where the NFL administered severe punishment for some form of cheating in the conference championship.

    Hey Goodell, how about some “Prevention” instead of “Punishment”?

  97. “The integrity of the game is No. 1,” ??? This is coming from the guy who was picked in the draft by The Baltimore Colts but refused to sign with them…your opinion is moot. I hope Denver never wins another playoff game while you are associated with that franchise.

  98. The Denver Broncos are the only team in NFL history to be fined for taping practices.

  99. I can’t decide which is more enjoyable, knowing that the Patriots and Brady will officially and forever be known as cheaters or watching their fans’ meltdown.

  100. broncos were fined nearly 2 million dollars and lost two draft picks for circumventing the salary cap. time for the patriots to stop whining like babies and accept their punishment like elway’s broncos did.

  101. Look at all Patriot trolls out here. Your meltdown is awesome to watch. Elway is saying what the other 31 team owners and GM’s are thinking. No apology is coming.

  102. The smart GM’s are the ones on the Patriots schedule who aren’t saying anything to provoke them. They know it’s going to be hard enough to beat a Patriots team that will be angry throughout the season, so why add fuel the fire. Go ahead, Elway, give them another reason to beat your team senseless.

  103. Integrity of the game is number 1? Is that why the Broncos went over the salary cap both years that they last won a SB? Good job Mr. Ed

  104. The Broncos deferred roster bonuses to Elway and Davis in years which they were building a new Stadium. A practice that actually could have bit Elway and Davis in the A$$ if he would have got hurt or retired. The Salary Cap violation was actually more of a cash flow loop to help the team front end more money to build the new Stadium and didn’t impact the rosters (at least that’s what the NFL stated when asked if Broncos received a competitive advantage). For it the Broncos were fined $950,000 and lost a draft pick. The Broncos fired their Compensation Analyst who committed the act, paid their fine and lost the pick. And since then I don’t recall any violations that impacted the integrity of the game from the Broncos Franchise.

    Hence, learned from the mistake. Something other teams have trouble doing…..

  105. Broncos did not cheat the salary cap rules, they DID violate league guidelines regarding the way players are paid.

  106. “Broncos did not cheat the salary cap rules, they DID violate league guidelines regarding the way players are paid.”
    —————-

    Which is the same as cheating. LOL

  107. Shady Tom as felt he is above the rules on the field. For years he has gotten calls for hits some touches the others have not received. Shady Tom broke the integrity of field play, he felt he did not have to give information to the investigators. Odd how he gave gifts to the equipment men yet for a team that has said they did nothing wrong, indefinitely suspended these two managers. In workers language fired find another job. No support from Brady or the Pats for these two. They got caught for the second time and the Golden Boy is no longer pretty.

  108. SUMMARY: On September 17, 2004, the league announced that, for the second time in three years, the Denver Broncos were fined nearly a million dollars and would, once again, lose their third-round draft pick because of salary cap violations between 1996 and 1998.

    Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis contended that the Broncos’ circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and 1998 seasons.

  109. Keep talking John…
    Let Brady know how you feel so when he visits he’ll enjoy shredding your donkeys that much more… & watching it will be that much more enjoyable for me

  110. My Steelers play NE in game #1 of the season. I would rather have the opportunity to win that game with Brady playing. A better penalty would be to donate his pay to a charity determined by each opposing team while requiring him to play. That way, no excuse for their coming loosing season.

  111. John Elway can’t eat apples without making everyone in the room feel awkward. Tom Brady agrees 100 %.

  112. First and Last post on this subject for ALL you Gum-Flappin Brainiacs out there who say the Broncos circumvented the salary cap to win the Super Bowl! The violations and THERE WERE VIOLATIONS! were to give the organization more on-hand funds because of the lack of ON-HAND FUNDS caused by the building of a NEW STADIUM!!!! DID NOT! (I’M REPEATING FOR THE CHEAP SEATS!) DID NOT! RESULT IN ANY KIND OF ADVANTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    But, Haters gonna Hate! So go ahead, just STOP talkin out your A*ses! Have a nice day! 😉

  113. ^^^^^ Yes indeed, deferred payment to Elway and Davis i believe…

    Imagine paying players a low salary but giving them a suitcase full of cash on the down low!!!
    Hell of an idea!

  114. To John Elway: you have always been a sissy (like in the 49er games where you slid on the ground to avoid being hit and the 49ers beat you 50+ to 10???) And here again you
    conveniently fail to remember the things you and your team did in the 80s-90s. However, because you brought in Manning, I looked the other way. Now, you’re toast, I won’t watch your team again.

  115. If you’re John Elway, you might need a QB next offseason and (god forbid) the Patriots might be moving on from Brady. If Tom Brady becomes available the Broncos are stupid to burn that bridge now.

    Just for clarity, I want Brady to play in New England until his mid 40’s. I’m just saying, as the head of the that front office it’s stupid for Elway to alienate what might be the next future HOF QB to enter the market like Manning 4 seasons ago.

  116. Of course he does. He knows the only way his team has a chance is to get home field. Peyton and the Broncos are on the downhill slide and this season is pretty much the last gasp before it starts to fall apart.

  117. So in a little defense of the Broncos about the salary cap issue. For those of you who haven’t done the research on exactly what happened with the Broncos salary cap issues, feel free to get a lesson. The bronco salary cap violations had nothing to do with paying players more than what they were allowed under the current salary cap of those years. The league and the team both stated publicly that it resulted in absolutely no competitive advantage. Feel free to Google it and see for yourself where both the league spokesman and the owner of the Broncos both stated exactly what the Broncos did. It had to do with the fact that the Broncos had to pay $100 million upfront for their new stadium that was being built. Therefore they did not have the cash available to pay their players then. So they Deferred some of their payments with interest until the Broncos had the money to pay them. The other issue was a player was guaranteed not to get waived until a certain date thus making his contract guaranteed under the rules written at the time. The two players whose portions of salaries were deferred was Elway and Davis. However what they got paid was still within the current salary cap. To avoid this issue all the Broncos had to do was take out a loan to pay them when they were due and it would have been a no-issue. However since they deferred their payments with interest that’s where the issue came in. So no, the Broncos didn’t cheat the salary cap or hide any money or salary. They simy couldn’t afford to pay them that season without taking out a loan cause they were unexpectedly on the hook for 100 million dlars for their new stadium that they thought the payment could be delayed on

  118. “The Denver Broncos are the only team in NFL history to be fined for taping practices.”

    And guess who the guy behind that is working for now.

  119. So, according to Pats fans Elway’s opinion is meaningless, Wells’ opinion is meaningless, Goodell’s opinion is meaningless, Troy Vincent’s opinion is meaningless, and so on. Guess what? Tommy cheated and lied, cost his team draft picks and money and that ain’t going to change. I know, my opinion is meaningless. Oh wait, this isn’t opinion. It’s fact!

  120. How many Pats fans have stood up and said, well Tom made things worse because he didn’t fully cooperate with the investigation? How many Pats fans have you seen in any discussion saying we messed up and should take the punishment like a man? I haven’t seen any. Thumbs up if you are in the same boat.

  121. Hey Mr #capgate. Don’t be mad because Tom can actually beat the Seahawks fair and square while your clown team gets embarrassed. Keep spending money. Talib and Welker worked out for ya lmao.

  122. WOW – Sinners and stones….

    You can try to minimize the Salary Cap issues but not sure anyone buys into the idea there was no competitive advantage. If they avoided cutting players due to the cash flow requirement, then there was advantage. Period.
    Oh Yeah – nice touch firing the accountant!

    Maybe John E needs to pee in a cup ’cause sure sounds like he has been smoking something…

  123. Most team owners and execs support the Patriot’s punishment for cheating.

    Kraft is kicking and screaming about it now, but here’s what will happen:

    At the upcoming owners meeting, a number of owners will take Kraft aside and tell him, “look, your boy Brady got caught breaking the rules. It happens. You take your lumps and move on. It doesn’t do you, or any of us any good to have you fighting this thing. The best thing you can do is move on.”

    In the meantime, Brady’s appeal will fail, and McNally will sell his story to the highest bidder, and the stain will grow.

  124. “The integrity of the game is No. 1,”

    Considering the source and the team he is employed by – Wow. Just wow.

  125. How about this, Pats…. don’t cheat and they won’t fine you or suspend your QB. Don’t hinder an investigation and they won’t take picks from you. Simple math.

  126. PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PRE RULE CHANGE VS POST RULE CHANGE RADICAL REDUCTION IN PATRIOTS FUMBLES.

  127. Considering that the NFL’s ruling will be a precedent setter, have any of the other 31 owners or GM’s come out to say the discipline was wrong or too harsh? Didn’t think so. Pat fans, carry on…..

  128. Lemme think here. Two slap on the wrists for salary cap violations = two Lombardi’s? Sold! I’ll make that deal every time.

  129. That’s because the Broncos will be the AFC’s top seed in 2015. The Broncos are going to represent the AFC next year and the Falcons will represent the NFC.

    Broncos vs. Falcons

    #broncosfalconssb50

  130. Breaking news! I’m dying to know how Marshall Faulk and Ladanian Tomlinson feel. I’m sure they’ll be as impartial as Elway.

  131. No offense, but John Elway is the LAST person who should be speaking about equity, fairness, and integrity of the game. By refusing to go to the Colts in the draft, he did more than just buck tradition; he messed with the NFL’s tried-and-true formula for parity and rewrote the narrative for years to come. Eli Manning too.

  132. This just means that Elway knows his team can’t beat Brady and the Patriots. If my memory serves me correctly,Elway is no angel either.

  133. I don’t care what any other teams GM or owners say. Of course they are going to defend the league because there will be a time when they are up for punishment and they don’t want any reason for the league to remember that they stood up for Kraft and the Patriots.

  134. This is the same man who’s team was PROVEN to have and was punished for circumventing the salary cap illegally the year the broncos won a Super Bowl, right? I just want to make sure we are on the same page when we begin throwing around words like “integrity”. Jerry Rice and Elway should be very careful about tossing stones in their glass houses.

  135. All intelligent fans think Goodell is a liar, a power hungry, incompetent joke, and think this punishment will be reversed.

    Anyone with a brain knows the NFL scam investigation, and un-independent investigation was started to punish Tom Brady & the Patriots.

    I’m not a Patriots fan, but the NFL is a fraud and Goodell & Wells are scam artists. Goodell is a clown.

    ______________________________________

    Let’s think this out first- why would the league want to destroy the reputation of one of it’s franchises especially this one? It is crazy to think that the league created this intent especially after the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson’s fiascoes

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