Roderick MacKinnon is “scientific co-founder” of company Kraft Group invested in

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As part of their response to the Wells Report, the Patriots included a rebuttal of scientific evidence from the report by Professor Roderick MacKinnon of the Rockefeller University.

MacKinnon, a 2003 Nobel laureate in chemistry, criticizes the key findings in the Wells Report and writes that the “conclusion that physical law cannot explain the pressures is incorrect.” In the original introduction to his work, MacKinnon is described as someone with “no business or personal relationship with the Patriots” who “offered his scientific expertise to the team” once news of the investigation went public.

MacKinnon may not have a relationship with the Patriots, but, as Noah Gray of Nature magazine pointed out on Thursday afternoon, he has one with the team’s owners. MacKinnon is the “scientific co-founder” and co-chair of the Scientific Advisory Board of a company called Flex Pharma that counts The Kraft Group among its investors.

Elsewhere in their response to the report, the Patriots raise the issue of the longstanding relationship between the NFL and Wells’ law firm Paul Weiss. They suggest that it would have been “appropriate” to be clearer about the nature of that relationship in a report that found no fault with the way the league handled the matter.

“Such disclosures would help the public better assess the findings regarding League conduct, of which there is not a single critical comment or single suggestion for improvement in the report. No one should take calls for such disclosure personally.”

It seems the same could be said of the Patriots’ level of disclosure when it comes to MacKinnon, something they acknowledged by updating their introduction to reflect the Kraft Group’s “passive investment” in Flex Pharma as part of a “syndicated investment group.”

145 responses to “Roderick MacKinnon is “scientific co-founder” of company Kraft Group invested in

  1. A liar, a cheater and a murderer walk into a bar……….

    Bartender thinks to himself, “I guess the Patriots must be in town”.

  2. So much for critizicing the league and Wells independence. I am sure that Roderick MacKinnon is independent as long as there is no issue with the guy signing his checks.

  3. FEDEX is presently in route delivering the Jets Clown Trophy to the New England Patriots!

  4. Both Tom Brady and Robert Kraft should draft an apology and fall on their proverbial swords. Please end the deflategate madness. It’s never too late to come clean!

  5. This is getting embarrassing . Reminds me of AROD. He made things 100% worse by trying to defend himself. Pats should just accept their punishment and move on

  6. Did MacKinnon say second hand smoke doesn’t cause cancer like Wells’ hirelings did?

  7. Can we get through 1 offseason w/ Goodell in charge where there is not some trumped up annoying charge that is only for headline material?

    Saints, deflated balls, NFLPA vs NFL et al. Just annoying waste of time that makes the NFL look like a jealous ex during the rest of the year.

  8. “Science” …. the term used when a group of people want to baffle you with BS & cover up their lies.

  9. Lines get more & more divided and becomes clearer now including the scientists! (LOL).

  10. They fixed that. Big deal.

    The scientific point in dispute should be easy enough to resolve by consulting other experts. Third parties. It seems to me that right now, Florio and King etc have made pretty clear that the Pats have the better of this argument on the gauges etc.

    Time for ESPN to get the old gang together to squeeze two footballs. This time not TWO whole PSI different (per the lies the NFL was putting out in January), but POINT THREE different.

  11. You know before today I would say there wasn’t a group dumber than the Patriot fans.

    Now however I believe that honor goes to their PR department.

  12. It just gets better and better. The Patriots****, the gang that couldn’t shoot straight

  13. Ummmm – I don’t think the Laws of Physics show any bias to ANY football team, even if Patriots-haters assert they do

    Even so, I believe the NFL Competition Committee is going to act swiftly to re-write the Laws of Physics to ensure they put the Patriots at a disadvantage

  14. It may have also helped if they pointed out that this guy is Massachusets born and bred.

    And that his scientific credentials are not all that relevant since he didn’t really do a scientific analysis.

    He just said that they didn’t have a controlled lab environment (obvious and something a high school science teacher would be more than sufficient for), that they assumed the wrong gauge (in doubt, but even if you use that gauge you still have 3 failed balls), and that the Colts balls may have looked like they lost less air because they warmed back up (which seems to assume they tested 11 pats balls instantaneously, waited 5 minutes, then test 4 colts balls instantaneously).

  15. The fall from grace is coming quicker than I expected. Tom should’ve just admitted that he asked for balls at the minimum PSI, and that he was sorry if it could be considered cheating when some of the balls went below. Done, over.

    Now, the Patriots and its front office are simply embarrassing themselves to the point that they could end up more hated than even the Cowboys.

  16. This is 100% fair game by the media to bring up, but it is disingenuous to suggest that the relationship (and resulting conflict of interest) between the NFL and the law firm of which it is a very large client is in any way comparable to the relationship of a scientist who is an adviser to a company and a minority investor in that company.

    It is completely fair to bring that up as an item worth disclosing, but the reality is that potential for undue influence is about 1/100 as present as it is in the case of a lawyer and his client. To suggest otherwise is to intentionally try to mislead an uninformed readership.

  17. IGL doesn’t care who you have relations with. If WA used the inaccurate gauge pregame then the league’s own data indicates no artificial pressure loss. Everything else is noise.

    As an aside: If the league really wanted to do this right, they should have used only one gauge. Adding the second gauge added no accuracy, and introduced an uncontrolled variable. Even if the gauge chosen was inaccurate, so long as it was precise, a correction factor could have been calculated.

  18. oh wait ….. it says “Rockefeller” University … the most trusted name in the United States……

    seems legit.

  19. Kraft’s relationship with Goodell has now been toasted beyond recognition of the carbon remains. If he doesn’t close his fat Hobbitt mouth he’s going to find a lot of calls NOT going his way and the legitimate end of the Dynasty of Fraud in the remains.

  20. Here’s the difference, this guy can claim anything he wants…Ted Wells isn’t being suspended or losing Ivy League Jr. Associate draft choices based on what is in this report.

  21. I don’t remember the offseason being this funny. Other than watch the NBA (lol just kidding, nobody watch the NBA) there was nothing else to do.

  22. I need more popcorn…this is just too entertaining. Kraft should start putting those earned asterisks on the helmets the way OSU uses the buckeyes on theirs…

  23. I forgot, why is it that the Patstericks are the only team that has a ball deflation problem? This whole organization continues to look more and more like a bad comb over.

  24. Meanwhile Hans and Franz are baffled when anyone would want to deflate, instead of pump up.

  25. So is the science wrong? Crickets. didn’t think so. So should we believe a scientist or a lawyer on a question of science. Hmmmmm.

  26. Pats were down by 14 to the Ravens. Didn’t give up. Down by 14 to the Hawks. Didn’t give up. And they aren’t throwing in the towel to Goodell either. Maybe if the hammer didn’t come down quite so hard – maybe it would have been accepted. The table was set nicely – something similar to the Falcons punishment. Haters would say not enough, Pats fans would say excessive, but there would be closure.

    But for the posts that say simply accept the punishment and it would go away? Really? Like when they accepted the Spygate punishment. Sure, that went away. Never heard another thing about it. And that was 8 years ago.

  27. Just when it couldn’t get any more awesome, the pats just kick themselves in the coconuts yet again. How in the heck did such an inept front office win 4 super bowls? Oh yeah, they cheated.

  28. How much is the investment? Is it material to their operations? Also, there weren’t too many faults found with the actual data collected by the wells report, just how it was interpreted. It was interpreted incorrectly to be far more conclusive than it really was. They tried to sound like they had enough information to meet an evidentiary standard and they didn’t.

  29. So a Nobel Prize winner rips another hole in the 3 month, million dollar Wells derport and the response is he founded a group that a fund manager for the Kraft Group invested in at some point? I mean, you do realize we are talking about objective scientific measurements here, not political lobbying?

  30. “Ok, now prove Kraft paid this man directly for his findings like goodell paid his and you are onto something.”

    Can a Patriot fan explain to me why they think this is anywhere CLOSE to what Goodell wanted to come out of this? Isn’t his life easier if TB is innocent? Isn’t his friendship with Kraft still in tact?

    That’s the biggest clincher of all is that NONE of this is good for the league or Goodell, so why all the tinfoil hats, Pats fans?

  31. science? all we need is math

    needle + football = deflated football

    brady + deflated football = cheating

    cheating + patriots = normal

  32. It doesn’t matter, everyone has disagreed with the Wells report in relation to there explanation of the science. Everyone except the company the Wells report used, and of by the way that same company also said second hand smoke wasn’t bad for you and asbestos isn’t harmful.

  33. The first rule to follow when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging.

    I guess you can add that to the list of rules the Pats tend to ignore.

  34. It is good to hear that Science is now just opinions on facts. That makes it much easier to get God into the mix and put these so called “Fact seekers” in their place!

  35. This is laughable! Pats are so done.

    I would love to see this go to court and get
    “the Deflator” on the stand under oath. Man, would we get the inside information then.

    #bradyistainted4ever

    P.S. and I thought jet fans were dumb… you guys have made me change my rankings.

  36. jrs1972 says:
    May 14, 2015 3:42 PM
    Ok, now prove Kraft paid this man directly for his findings like goodell paid his and you are onto something.
    ——-
    Just in. Goodell says Kraft must first prove he didn’t pay the scientist for his finding…Oh wait…check stubs…never mind.

  37. Guy wins a Nobel prize? Yeah, tainted.

    Bottom line, if you use the gauge the refs said they used, it proves the pats DIDN’T cheat. Laws of physics.

    So Wells insisted that the refs must be wrong. And the pats let out .3 PSI of air out of each ball. Which is 1% of the air in the ball. Sounds realistic.

  38. What the hell! I thought rich guys didn’t believe in science, as in climate warming, or footballs deflating….time for the whole cheating bunch from the pats to line up for there MEA-CULPA. If Tom files an appeal it show that he is not the smartest QB that has played the game. Bill

  39. I’m not sure who is worse: the Patriots apologists, or the Patriots haters. On one side, you have people who are willing to go to anyway to defend the organization despite obvious wrongdoing and failure to cooperate. These are folks who will use any technical law were perceived by it in the report to claim that Brady and others should be completely exonerated. On the other side, you have people who are claiming the patriots didn’t really win the Super Bowl, and that it should be vacated. Both positions are completely ridiculous.

  40. I like how the Pats point out they’re ‘Passive Investors’, as if its stock held in IBM that their grand mother left them when she died.

    ‘Passive’ just means Kraft doesn’t actively participate in the management of the firm. But, more than likely, they’re a part of a syndicate, or small group of venture capitalists that kept the company alive as they worked towards viability.

    But, I’m sure McKinnon felt no obligation to help out someone who is literally the lifeblood of his firm.

  41. Option 1-A simple man up ,accept your wrongdoing , act like an adults and be done with it

    Option 2 – lie, continually embarrass yourself, tarnish your image and act like children

    Pats continuously choose option 2……. I wouldn’t be surprised if the want to be on Jerry Springer soon.

  42. Al gore won a nobel prize and then admitted his data and predictions were wrong, heck, Obama won a nobel prize just for being elected because they thought he would bring people together and the country is more divided than ever. Having a nobel prize does not guarantee that what you are saying is 100% accurate.

    I have a degree in science.

  43. I’m loving all the Pats fans thinking Goodell is out to get them. He’s coddled your behinds until he just couldn’t keep it under wraps anymore. Suddenly he’s the bad guy.

  44. The Kraft Group is a globally diversified high volume investment firm. So they have a small holding in a company this guy works for?

    What’s your point?

  45. The fumbling data does not lie! This data is accurate and it says the Pats have been cheating since 2007, the year after Brady lobbied the league for the rule change, and the same year the Pats gave longtime employee Jim McNally the title of “locker room attendant”. It’s also the same year he became the “deflator”.

    Pats fumbling data:
    2000-2006: one fumble every 42 touches
    2007-2014: one fumble every 74 touches

    Pats have been cheating for years! Again.

  46. He’s coddled your behinds until he just couldn’t keep it under wraps anymore

    As in when? During the overblown spygate when he issued the largest penalty ever handed out?

    But being a troll I naturally assume you don’t dwell on things called facts

  47. PATRIOTSDYNASTYLIVES says:
    May 14, 2015 11:51 AM
    #GAMEON………ITS SO ON!!!!!!!!! LOVE IT
    ————————
    Looks like the games being played are by the pats.

  48. I think people are missing the point

    You can’t argue with the Laws of Physics

    The Laws of Physics show no bias and as NUMEROUS scientists have pointed out that the lower PSI is consistent with the Ideal Gas Law based on the “best recollection” of the lead official

    Yes – you read correctly. Based on the unbiased Laws of Physics and based upon the unbiased NFL official there is NO EVIDENCE OF TAMPERING

    The only way Ted Wells was able assert the PSI showed tampering is to just arbitrarily assert that the “best recollection” of the unbiased lead official – was WRONG

    That alone makes this report laughable – but since it makes the jealous haters happy, they can’t accept logic or the Laws of Physics

  49. lambeauheap says:
    May 14, 2015 4:07 PM
    The Kraft Group is a globally diversified high volume investment firm. So they have a small holding in a company this guy works for?

    What’s your point?
    ———————-
    The point is, the dots connect. It’s not rocket science.

  50. First and foremost, I hate the Patriots. I believe that they were taping signals, both offensive and defensive.

    The fact that the wells report has no problem with the way the NFL handled this situation is cause for alarm.

    The NFL was attempting to confirm that the Patriots deflated the footballs. This is really a simple science experiment dealing with gas laws. However, they forgot to have control over the experiment. There was no documentation. No notations. No recordings. Nothing to verify the claims that wells has made.

    Well’s is asking us to accept his word and to believe that everything is ok. That is not the case. The NFL didn’t document what gauge they used for the initial measurement. This wouldn’t be a problem, but the variance between the two gauges ranged from .3 to .5 PSI difference. What’s even more puzzling is they did not record those initial measurements!

    This is a subpar science report. If I turned this in during Middle School, I would get an F. Turn this into Goodell and it’s now the beacon of truth.

    Again I really hate the Patriots and TB is a smug/arrogant SOB who I think is not a nice person. I think they have cheated throughout their “Dynasty,” but YOU CANNOT convict people with faulty or doctored evidence. Don’t forget that 75% of the Colts’ balls were also below that 12.5 PSI threshold. Granted they only measured four of them.

    They should have really taken all of the footballs, let them sit in the locker room until after the game so they could re-acclimate to the conditions they had been initially measure in. This would have preserved the evidence that the NFL has now fouled up and cannot be used as a basis for punishing the Pats.

  51. SeattleJones says: May 14, 2015 3:44 PM

    The fall from grace is coming quicker than I expected. Tom should’ve just admitted that he asked for balls at the minimum PSI, and that he was sorry if it could be considered cheating when some of the balls went below. Done, over.
    ———————————————-
    That’s a great post. You should be a PR person. That would have been a reasonable response, one that is hard to prove otherwise. And even if it didn’t avoid the suspension, I think it would have avoided some of the negative public opinion.

  52. The flaw in the “McKinnon is biased” argument is that he has science to back him up. And how many Nobel prizes has Exponent won? And check some of his work, he is in the pocket of his employer.

  53. Wells biased analysis: Performed by a company that has claimed second hand smoke doesn’t cause cancer and Toyotas didn’t randomly accelerate for no reason.

    Patriots biased analysis: Performed by a Noble Laureate and reached the same conclusion as the study by a Carnegie Mellon Grad student published by the NY Times, a study that forced another leading scientist to admit his math was wrong when he said deflation was not caused naturally.

    Draw your own conclusion.

  54. Kraft is a billionaire….I’m sure he’s affiliated with a gazillion people in some broad range due to all the money & donations …..quite a bit of a reach there when comparing the two as to who works for who & credentials / qualifacations & reputations

  55. Sideshow Bob Kraft at it again.

    Bob, you and your franchise are a stained embarrassment.

  56. The point is, the dots connect. It’s not rocket science.

    What dots?

    That a Nobel Prize Winner would risk his reputation to help out Tom Brady and the Patriots?

    Seems less likely than asbestos not causing mesothelioma

  57. Scientific laws do not change based on the person applying them.Any scientist will get the same measurements.Duh +

  58. LOL people can’t understand science so they’re attacking a Nobel Laureate.

    It’s pretty simple stuff, honestly. Either you have a brain or you think the balls were missing air.

    -colts fan

  59. Google Ted Wells background and take a look at the cast of clients/relationships he’s had. Among them is Johnson and Johnson. You know Johnson the owner of the J E T S .

  60. RE:
    kuechlyisabeast says:
    May 14, 2015 4:22 PM

    The problem with that PR move is that is more or less what Tom did. And everyone said he was lying. He said he wants the balls set at 12.5 psi and no one to touch them after the referee’s approve them. He did not know how they fell below that threshold but he did not notice a difference.

    In fact he has never once said he likes the balls below the minimum PSI. He has said he likes a little softer ball, which does not indicate he likes them below the legal range, just close to or at the minimum legal range. I think he has been completely consistent in this point.

    Read the wells report in context. Very well done and provides a counter point to the NFL’s report. You can decide yourself but at least you hear both sides of the argument.

  61. I’m not so sure science and math can be manipulated by people you know, mostly because it’s so easy to cross check – with anyone else that took science in high school.

  62. zachari14 says:
    May 14, 2015 3:53 PM

    “Ok, now prove Kraft paid this man directly for his findings like goodell paid his and you are onto something.”

    Can a Patriot fan explain to me why they think this is anywhere CLOSE to what Goodell wanted to come out of this? Isn’t his life easier if TB is innocent? Isn’t his friendship with Kraft still in tact?

    That’s the biggest clincher of all is that NONE of this is good for the league or Goodell, so why all the tinfoil hats, Pats fans?
    —————————————————
    Very good point, and if I might add, if this was so cut and dry as many on here (mostly Pat fans) try to point out in favor of the Pats, then why hasn’t the 31 other owners come to the defense of one of their own?

  63. Which doesn’t have anything to do with the merits of his point. Or change the fact that Wells was paid to find one specific outcome.

  64. Well, it is quite simple. The scientific part of this can be definitively ascertained by a simple review of the procedures in testing and how they measure up to the standard for making a scientific determination. All of the commentators here are reflecting on what they want to see or how they can be a wise ass. If one is searching for the truth then it can be found. The Wells report has fatal flaws that cannot be ignored. It would be thrown out if peer reviewed. It does not matter if you have one Nobel prize winner or not. You get several eminent scientist who can concur on the methodology. It should not be left to the moronic science wannabes on this page. When you review the text and emails they should be in context to the conversation. Quite simple and logical. Most of the responses on this page are lynch mob mentality.

  65. Why ? Because goodell works for the owners, and the other teams are tired of the pats owning them. They dont want to face brady. Thats why.

  66. Do you really think that a Nobel Laureate is going to put his reputation on the line over the inflation of a football? My guess is that he had no recollection of the business relationship. The stereotype of the absent minded professor exists for a reason.

    I give you that the relationship between Mackinnon and the Kraft Group really should have been disclosed – so we now have an instance of 1 bit of sloppiness on the part of the Patriots up against a slew of it by Wells.

  67. Wells could hire a team of scientists and they still wouldn’t be able to explain away all of the holes in his report.

    If this guy is being paid by Kraft to poke holes in the report, then it’s the easiest payday he’s ever had.

  68. swineflooo says:
    May 14, 2015 5:16 PM

    Why ? Because goodell works for the owners, and the other teams are tired of the pats owning them. They dont want to face brady. Thats why.
    —————————————————–
    LOL, you do realize when one wins they all win, they all get a piece of the pie no matter who’s cutting it.

  69. brownsalwaysrebuilding says:May 14, 2015 4:05 PM

    Al gore won a nobel prize and then admitted his data and predictions were wrong, heck, Obama won a nobel prize just for being elected because they thought he would bring people together and the country is more divided than ever. Having a nobel prize does not guarantee that what you are saying is 100% accurate.

    I have a degree in science.

    ——-

    You should probably give it back.

  70. Kraft is an embarrassment to the NFL, just as Donald Sterling was to the NBA (before they ousted him). Kraft should be given a lifetime ban and forced to sell his team. The Patriots have been caught numerous times cheating, and it’s rare that a cheater gets caught every time. If Brady has an ounce of class, he’ll demand a trade. Otherwise, his reputation will be forever tarnished, along with the Patriots. The curtain has been pulled back and they’ve been exposed. It’s not pretty, and it seems to get uglier by the day.

  71. K.I.S.S. – Brady had the balls deflated to help him throw the ball better. He cheated.

    Case closed.

  72. More lies from the Patriots.

    Why does Kraft think Wells relationship to the league matters? Does he believe it is in the NFLs best interest to have one of its biggest stars sit in the 1st game of the season? The NFL doesn’t *want* Brady suspended. They’d much rather have him playing.

  73. Kraft taking a page from the Dan Snyder How to Win Influence™ handbook.

    Congratulations Kraft, you are quickly becoming the Donald Sterling of the NBA.

  74. Holding stock in a company, purchased as part of an investor group, is hardly a financial tie to worry about.

    I have some retirement money in an index fund. Does that mean I’ve made conflicts of interest with everyone who works for all of the companies listed on the Dow Jones index?

    Billionaires like Kraft have investments everywhere. He probably has investments that are tied in some way to some of the people that Wells hired for his sham report.

  75. It’s this type of stuff that makes the Pats be as shady to most everyone as they are. There may be nothing to this at all but there is the financial connection and it just raises the eyebrow.

    It’s like nothing this organization does can ever just seem to fully be on the up and up and THAT is the reason why many dislike it. They’re the NFL’s franchise version of a politician.

    I’m still waiting for those who say the psi drop was all natural to go do an actual test replicating the conditions as best as possible. I mean we’re talking about footballs and temperature here so it doesn’t take much to get some and test them in a colder temperature. That nobody who is so sure this was natural is doing this is telling to me as they’d rather let their theory do the talking instead of actually testing it. Theory often doesn’t match reality.

    It’s the same for Wells though and how he didn’t apparently do a test to see if the psi could have dropped that much and he instead just went by the ideal gas law. For millions of dollars it seems a simple test anyone could do wouldn’t have been hard.

  76. Kraft will pay the equipment guys off,if he hasn’t already.And the Pat’s will continue to cheat and skirt the rules – It is the Pat’s way.You Pat’s fans must be so proud !!

  77. Pats are cheaters and the NFL is trying to bury it.

    That’s the explanation.

  78. Wait…wait….stop posting….I gotta go fill my popcorn container and get another beer or ten…..these cheatriot gems are coming too fast for me to keep up…..

  79. Pay no attention to the texts that explain the “deflator” nickname and the espn reference. The heart of Wells assumptions that tampering occurred. Never mind Anderson swears he used the gauge that would have exonerated them from tampering charges but the investigator badgers him until he gets him to say it might be possible he used the other one. Forget that Anderson says at halftime the infamous #1 kicking ball wasn’t legit because it didn’t have his gold mark on it then lo and behold he didn’t make a mark on any of them! Nah, nothing to see here, no need to question. Ya’ll are sheep.

  80. I understand it may in fact be impossible to find someone in The Common Wealth of Massachusetts, or the whole of New England for that matter, with enough objectivity to “pump the brakes”, but someone better find the decency in their character to speak honestly because it’s fairly obvious to the casual observer that either Kraft is a clueless boob and needs to be muzzled or Kraft is a clueless boob that’s convinced himself of he, and the organizations infallibility, from all the sunshine that get’s pumped up his starfish.

  81. swineflooo says:
    May 14, 2015 5:16 PM

    Why ? Because goodell works for the owners, and the other teams are tired of the pats owning them. They dont want to face brady. Thats why.
    ——————————————————
    If you really want to push this crap then you better check your Sb wins closer. the kicker and the D won your SB’s, and of course the cheating helped. ****

  82. The majesty of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady will continue this year, culminating with another stunning win in SB 50.

    I will be here all season to remind you sheep of their domination and to document the upcoming unprecedented season.

    Stay tuned.

    Thus endeth the lesson.

  83. I’m just glad to hear patriot haters admitting that the wells report is deeply tainted. If they think a minor connection like this is a problem then clearly paying a guy directly millions of dollars is a huge problem right?

  84. Let’s see – the Patriots official response claims bias because of relationships between the league and the investigator. That would be of some interest if the complaint wasn’t authored by THE PATRIOTS’ ATTORNEY – a clearly unbiased source! This is comedy and hubris at its best. Keep it coming!

  85. If you really want to push this crap then you better check your Sb wins closer. the kicker and the D won your SB’s, and of course the cheating helped. ****

    I checked them all–and they all are in the history books. Tom Brady is the owner of 3 Super Bowl MVP’s.

    ..it will always say, New England Patriots, Super Bowl Champions

    …what was your point, exactly?

  86. The Patriots must be operating under the “any publicity is good publicity” motto. If they had simply just won the Superbowl, they would never be getting this much pub.

  87. MacKinnon is described as someone with “no business or personal relationship with the Patriots”

    So, he lied about that…what else has he lied about.

  88. They should have stuck to only the science. They idiotically commented on the texts which kill them in the court of public opinion. No one has ever used the term deflate in a weight loss way. Idiotic.

  89. sportsfan1949 says:
    May 14, 2015 8:33 PM
    Let’s see – the Patriots official response claims bias because of relationships between the league and the investigator. That would be of some interest if the complaint wasn’t authored by THE PATRIOTS’ ATTORNEY – a clearly unbiased source! This is comedy and hubris at its best. Keep it coming!

    ———————————–

    So the Patriots were supposed to have someone else write their official response?? Maybe they could have gotten Woody Johnson write it for them.

  90. Pats fans shrilly screaming that the fumble evidence being debunked is like Lady screaming every time he’s touched and deflator being a weight loss program.

    LOL

    First, like your scientist, the two guys who purportedly debunked the Sharp report…
    1 Only said it overstated the amazing turnaround in fumbles, not that there was none

    and

    2 Were two admitted Pats fans who assured everyone that they weren’t biased

    After all this and these posts, can anything from a Pats fan be believed?

    But let’s throw out that report and instead look up the stats for yourself (or are NFL stats biased?)

    2003-2006 The Pats fumbled 1 per 44.3 plays with the best year being 1 per 45.93 and the worst 1 per 41.5 (which was 2006).

    Rule change

    2007-2014 The Pats fumbled 1 per 74.5 with the best being 1 per 89.43 and, excluding 2013 when Brady played with a broken hand, the worst being 1 per 60.91 plays. 2007 was 1 per 82.25 vs 2006 which was, again, 1 per 41.5.

    Even the broken hand year which should present ball security issues, the Pats fumbled less per play than any year between 2003-2006.

    Remember, Belichick was the coach and Brady the QB during this entire stretch.

    Additionally, Pats did not dramatically change their approach as some suggest.

    Between 2003-2006 the Pats ran 65.2 plays per game and passes 33.38 times.

    Between 2007-2014 the Pats ran 67.9 plays per game and passed 36.96 times per game.

    So the Pats ran 2.7 more plays per game and passes 3.6 times more per game. That means the argument that fumbles happen predominantly on run plays and the Pats stopped running is factually wrong. Te Pats reduced runs by 0.9 runs per game.

    Patriots cheat, this is proof.

  91. This is a mess. Everyone is in the wrong and everyone looks stupid.

    Goodell should have done something quickly months ago. Stop looking for a scapegoat and just punish the organization exactly as others have been for similar offences.

    The Chargers, Falcons & Panthers all had similar competitive advantage infractions so a $50,000 fine & a mid round pick for having equipment out of spec seems reasonable.

    Suspend Brady for a game or not being fully cooperative.

    No-one will be happy but they will all live with it.

  92. What this scientist, Kraft and the Patriots are very conveniently omitting to include in their rebuttal is that the temperature would have had to have been OVER 100 degrees when they initially inflated the balls in order to get the kind of pressure drop. There’s no way in heck the temps were that high. Liars exposed yet again. They’re only making their graves deeper

  93. So he won the nobel prize for “chemistry” and Kraft brought him in to test the waters on the “physics” of footballs and air pressure?

    Sounds about right,,,,,,,,,,

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