The Patriots suspended the guys they’re passionately defending today

The Patriots have launched long-winded defense of themselves today, nearly 20,000 words of defense.

But through all the chapter and verse they’ve cited to explain the true motives of Jim McNally and John Jastremski in this document, one question becomes more and more curious.

If these two guys are so innocent, why did the Patriots suspend them without pay?

In the league’s initial release on the Patriots’ punishment, it is made clear who did what to whom.

“Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th,” the league’s release last week read.

So, these two guys are completely misunderstood, a pair of hapless innocents who didn’t want to get busted for lifting shoes and just wanted to drop a few pounds.

Why then would the Patriots move so quickly and decisively to distance themselves?

Perhaps that can be the next installment of the Patriots’ blog.

294 responses to “The Patriots suspended the guys they’re passionately defending today

  1. They’re clearing room for a new set of ball guys that take exact directions from the players.

  2. This is what makes no sense to me, if all the talk was about deflating weight and free shoes, why the guys didn’t talk the last couple days? I bet they had plenty avenues to claim their innocence and clarify all this misunderstanding. Did they need some legal advice for that?

  3. Instead of all this speculation lets see what a court of law where BOTH sides can equally present evidence to an unbiased jury. So many people want to hang the Patriots without them having a fair opportunity to present their case now why would that I wonder?

  4. Can you imagine if in January Brady just came out and admitted what he did? He would have gotten fined, maybe a one game suspension. The more the Patriots keep this going, the worse it gets.

  5. The media is to blame! We didn’t cheat! Stop painting these false pictures to undermine our greatness and we won’t have to make these knee jerk decisions to feed the hungry mob.

    ~ 4 rings ~

  6. “The Patriots breaking the rules, the refs screwing up and the NFL’s disciplinary system being a sham are not mutually exclusive concepts.”

    -Chris Burke, SI

  7. If your words and actions were interpreted by the authorities in such a way that it cost your employer over $1 million, you think you’d keep your job? Even if they believed you did nothing wrong?

    I doubt that very much.

  8. I think firing them is scummier than anything that was done to the footballs.

    You think these guys deflated balls on their own?

    You think these guys could say NO to Brady?

    Once again, the little guy takes it in the neck to protect the big guys.

  9. It seems to me that Kraft’s employees aren’t being honest with him, in an effort to save their jobs. This is why we’re starting to see an inconsistency in their defense.

  10. The Patriots are FUBAR.

    I can’t understand what they are doing today either. So much conflicting information and so many conflicting stories coming from them and none of it makes any sense.

    Didn’t Kraft say at one point they were accepting the findings and any punishments levied against them?

    That turned out to be as false as everything else coming out of Foxboro in the past week.

  11. It all seems ambiguous. These two, referred to as “Larry and Curly” by some were smart enough not to provide a smoking gun text, but dumb enough to joke about it in texts. Pretty amazing.

  12. Holy Crap Batman, 8 out of 12 headlines about the flat footballs. Just pay what you owe and move on. That’s got to be better for football than all of this.

  13. Thank you for finally bringing up this obvious discrepancy in the whole lame Patriot “defense”.

    They got caught cheating. They are complaining bout the tactics – the lack of scientific proof – the fact there was a predetermined conclusion – that no other teams were investigated.

    In other words, they are upset they didn’t get away with it.

    They are not claiming they are innocent.

  14. Did you read what was released? They fired them because they acted like complete jackwads and the NFL ordered them to suspend them for the entire 2015 season and not allow them on the sidelines or near the balls after that. Why would you keep on ball attendants who are not allowed near the balls?

  15. Because now that the deflator has revealed his true identity he can no longer be in the presence of the good people of Foxboro. He must go and protect and doctor balls under another alias.

  16. Unless my understanding of English is betraying me, being indefinitely suspended is a lot different than fired but please do educate me since I don’t have an ivy league degree. Also these guys have (please correct me I am not quoting page and paragraph in the wells report or in Kraft’s press release where it is mentioned) other employment outside the Patriots, so probably aren’t year round full-timers for the Patriots. Its the offseason so “indefinitely suspending” them doesn’t carry the same weight as someone who only works at one place as is suspended from that employer.

  17. It is truly amazing to see Patriots fans reference Aaron Rodgers over and over while they try to deflect Brady and his cheating.

    Rodgers said they test the upper limits of inflation BEFORE inspection because the refs always let a bit of air out during the testing process. By having them slightly over, it ends up at the top range.

    Meanwhile…Brady has the balls tested and then AFTER inspection, he has his cronies deflate them.

    I cannot understand why Patriots fans can’t get the difference through their thick skulls.

  18. Fired?

    Or suspended indefinitely with approval dependent on Troy Vincent’s approval?

    Which is it?

  19. Firing them and paying them off to keep quiet are two different issues. Who cares if you get fired if your ‘severence pay’ is a cool under the table $100k or maybe more?

    If you don’t see them on ESPN, TMZ or Deadspin soon, then you can just assume they were paid off handsomely.

  20. Whoever is handling this shoddy “defense plan” for the Patriots should probably be fired, too.

  21. “The Patriots breaking the rules, the refs screwing up and the NFL’s disciplinary system being a sham are not mutually exclusive concepts.”

    -Chris Burke, SI
    ===
    Someone should tell Chris that the refs screwing up makes it impossible to prove that the Patriots broke the rules.

  22. Maybe they did before the NFL could, cause then the NFL didn’t discipline them, which means that the way back in is easier than if the NFL had fired them, once the Patriots have got fair representation?

  23. @tajauara, its even more puzzling that Tom Brady isn’t talking. He sends his agent to talk. He lets the Pats lawyer defend the 6 phone calls.

    Its almost like he doesn’t want to be on camera telling a story that could later get debunked.

  24. ravishingronald says:
    May 14, 2015 1:55 PM
    Yea, they did nothing wrong. Brady should be proud. Dirtbag.

    ——————————

    Brady’s 6 calls was to fire them personally and thank them for their service :p

  25. Firing Arch and Jughead because they are not model employees and defending them against Wells’ libelous slander are not mutually exclusive.

  26. First off if Brady told them to do this they would not of fired them. Because they would run to the press. Gantt once again trying to twist the facts to paint the Pats in a bad light. First off it is offseason so they may not be active employees during it. But no way the Pats would of fired either if Brady cheated. Better check your facts again Gantt. What a joke you are. FREE TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!

  27. Do a fact check. My understanding is that they were suspended and could not be reinstated without the express written consent of Troy Vincent.
    .

  28. We all know they were suspended for wrong doing BEFORE the Patriots decided to “Kraft” up their web of lies to try to talk their way out of it. It’s quite sad and embarrassing for them.

    But……when you have half as many cheating scandals as SB Trophy’s, you gotta try to protect your image as much as possible.

    The PR director needs to be fired. That much is certain.

  29. How can they be so competent on the field yet so incompetent they are with their cover up and defense?

    They need to fire their lawyers and MAN UP!

  30. The Deflator: Coming soon to an unemployment office near you.
    ===
    The Deflator already has a FT job. He’s a beer distributor in NH.

  31. Ortiz and Wallace probably carried out the murder of Odin while Hernandez stood buy smoking a joint.

    So these two guys deflated some footballs while Brady waited for the pressure to drop.

    Using the above, and since Hernandez is facing life in jail with no parole, shouldn’t we assume that Brady should be barred for life from playing any future NFL game??

  32. McNally didn’t have to go to ESPN about the shoe scheme, they came to him. And they completely misinterpreted that text exchange in the process. Again, through the lens of seeing everything having to relate to deflategate rather than the actual dealings.

  33. Lifelong Pats fan here. I’ll always be a fan of the team and Tom Brady. I still think he’s one of the top 5 QB’s of all time who’s earned everything he’s accomplished. Despite the flawed report, I also think they’re guilty as charged. But out of everything, from spygate to deflategate, putting up this website is the worst and most embarrassing thing they’ve done.

  34. Pats fans seem to have totally lost it with their wild rationalizations of what has taken place. Brady could come clean and admit to the allegations and Pats fans would claim he was subjected to waterboarding or having his nails pulled out and thus the admission. This has went beyond quacking like a duck and walking like a duck to a picture of a duck.

  35. Those guys are screwed. Good luck getting another job with the nationaledia paying so much attention to them. They are going to do a tell all interview and screw Brady over if someoney doesn’t magically appear in their bank accounts soon.

  36. How much did they get in their golden parachute. They should retain lawyers and sue the Pats because they were simply doing as instructed then write that book we want to read. So much for Brady’s appeal.

  37. Who said they’re innocent? They had to deflate balls the refs over inflated

    Cheating to stop the officials from cheating by inflating to 16 psi is still cheating

    The refs and Goodell should also be fired

  38. The Pats are obviously guilty as sin and are running in circles trying to cover it up. It’s gonna be fun to watch them implode as their obfuscation and misdirection attempts backfire.

  39. Honestly I didn’t see what the big deal was about the footballs. I suspected that most people fiddled with the air pressure and if not the weather did. Also the Pats would have won the playoff game even if the Colts played with 14 men. So I wasn’t too impressed with the whole thing. But lying and covering up is a whole different thing in my eyes. I didn’t care too much until stuff like this came out in the news. Now I want NE held accountable. There story has been nothing but lies and cover-up from the beginning.

  40. I’m thinking of getting a custom Pats jersey that says”The Deflator” on the back name plate with the number 10.5 on it.

  41. The Patriots are looking more and more guilty by the hour. So now we are to believe that these two, low-level ball boys, are solely responsible for the penalties imposed by the NFL?? What a crock!!
    As to why “fire” the ball boys? It’s so that when they are called by the defense to the witnesses stand, the Patriots can refer to their testimony, as coming from “disgruntled fired employees”, and therefore not creditable…

  42. Sounds like they were “indefinitely suspended without pay by the club” but Patriot’s failed to mention the SETTLEMENT they negotiated for them not to speak.

  43. Patriots are just making it worse. No one in their right mind will buy this “defense.”

    Take your punishment. Own up to your mistakes. Move on.

  44. Were they suspended indefinitely, or fired? Headline says fired, article says suspended. Big difference. Would certainly make sense for them to suspend them until they get to the bottom of everything.

  45. thebifforacle says:

    “This is where Pats fans go very very quiet.

    They have a better chance defending fat guy nicknames.”

    —-

    If only.

  46. Californiaqid said:

    “Robert Kraft now makes Jim Irsay and Jerry Jones look good.”

    Dude, you’re so right … and even Dan Snyder.

  47. Since when is “indefinitely suspended without pay” mean fired? It seems clear to me that the league forced the team to suspend them too.

  48. Irreverent. Suspension until full disposition isn’t unusual. McNally wouldn’t work until August again anyway, thus he isn’t being stopped from working because officially he has no role until games start.

  49. It will all be made clear don’t worry. The Pats are just beginning, they are livid and ready to fight. Patriots fans will be vindicated and the haters will continue to hate because they don’t like little things like facts to get in the way.

    In the end you know who loses? The NFL and the fans. It’s reputation is about to come tumbling down. The NFL and integrity? Please there is so much dirty water there it makes the east river look clean. This is why I believe you will see an agreement between the two that helps them both save face.

  50. They fired them so they can freely sue the NFL. That will allow the league persons to have to turn over their personal phone to be examined. Wow, Rog won’t like that.

  51. Don’t get your hopes up, with respect to them talking. I’m sure (based on how they’re behaving now) that they’ve told both of them: If you come out and claim Brady said anything, it’s your word against his (no calls recorded), and we’ll apply the full weight of our legal team to drag you through court. They can’t afford that.

  52. This reminds me of an old Mark Knopfler song. “Punish the Monkey”

    Somebodys gonna take the fall
    There’s your quid pro quo
    Punish the monkey
    Punish the monkey, yeah
    Punish the monkey
    And let the organ grinder go

    Brady is the Organ grinder

    Grind this Brady!

  53. And now they fired him. Being that they claim that “The Deflator” was all about him losing weight, does he have a case for wrongful termination? They obviously terminated him for being to heavy?

  54. Their defense for not deflating balls was that they were stealing equipment. If the Pats believe them then they should be fired.

  55. Did someone say court of law?

    Be real.

    The courts have much more important things to worry about.

    This is an employer-employee matter. It has no business in court.

  56. Brady and his wife have a 9 figure bank account and these guys are unemployed.
    ===
    Jesus no… Pay attention: The “Deflater” has a full time job. This was a side gig.

  57. So all haters say that Brady would have turned over his phone via attorneys if not guilty. So who else also believes that the NFL must be guilty of hiding evidence by not allowing the same attorneys to be present during interviews??

  58. Well if they fired them, then they have no reason NOT to tell the truth, right?

    If they hadn’t fired them, you’d say “of course they haven’t fired them!! They are paying them to keep quiet!!!”.

    Can’t have it both ways.

  59. John Jastremski and James McNally are probably making more money from the Pats as fired employees than they were when working for them. Advice for the Pats: once you have dug the hold, quit digging.

  60. The Patriots are officially doing too much in trying to defend themselves! It’s time to sit down, shut up, and take your penalties like Super Bowl *hampions!!

  61. Suspended without pay. Is this not standard operating procedure for many public facing roles where this may be questionable activity, while an investigation is ongoing?

    Let me ask you brainiacs this question: If Tom Brady was so deep into a conspiracy with these guys to illegally deflate footballs, why would the Pats fire them? Once fired, they have no reason not to run to the nearest reporter(s) with their hands out and willing to spill the beans.

    You don’t fire guys who can bring down your house. Think it through. Think. It. Through.

  62. “This is what makes no sense to me, if all the talk was about deflating weight and free shoes, why the guys didn’t talk the last couple days?”
    —————————————————————–
    Good point. But, as with the bathroom visit while lugging a missing bag of footballs, ambient air temperature, weight loss hopes, etc, there could be any number of explanations. For example, the Deflator could just as well be the nickname of a male prostitute who wears a ‘jacket’ for protection. Of course, who he has to “deflate” is another issue entirely. Or, one’s ego could be ‘deflated’ because he wanted a more expensive jacket but now wants a job.

  63. Yeah this is so weird. Why would they want to fire two Patriots employees that were trashing Tom Brady behind his back?

    Why? If only I could think of a reason the Patriots would want to fire two employees who were saying bad things about the Patriots quarterback?

    So weird they would do that.

  64. I just read the post about the guy calling himself the deflator because his fat, and then read this, time for the Patriots* to just tap out. Looking real foolish right now.

  65. Cheater lance armstrong cheats to win and the Tour de France erases his cheating wins from the record book.

    Cheating patriots cheat to win and get to keep their cheating wins?!?

    France >>> U.S.A. ?!?

    Sad.

  66. I don’t think they’ll have too much trouble finding work. They might be knuckleheads but they did what they were told. I’m sure some Pats homer and business owner will hook them up.

  67. This is the smartest thing the Patriots have done in this whole thing. They fire them and give them severance pay that is contingent on them not speaking to anyone (press or NFL). Then when these guys refuse to speak to the NFL during the appeals process, the Patriots get to say they are no longer employees so the Patriots can’t be accused of not cooperating.

  68. At least they got to keep there jobs for longer than they would’ve if they refused to deflate the balls when originally asked to…

  69. Basically, the more excuses and yapping they are doing will just backfire on them and their appeal, regardless who hears the appeal. Besides, they are saying and doing so many ridiculous things right now, that they are actually helping the NFL out now.

  70. A smart lawyer would have advised the pats to remove them from NFL employment so the NFL could no longer force their testimony. I am sure both have a sizeable severance deposit in Savings, that certainly came with a privacy clause that requires that they never disclose any Patriots operations with anyone. The team would then be protected from them as witnesses, as they would loose the severance monies if they ever discussed it along with a personal liability outlined in the agreement. In other words, not only would they have to return the severance but also be on the hook for significantly more than that.

    But, so far I haven’t seen the Patriots activities as being managed by a smart lawyer.

  71. Lets fire them and pretend they never existed and all this deflategate stuff will just go away – like it never happened. You know, the same thing that they did with all the stats and references after Hernandez was arrested and charged with murder.

  72. Because if the Pats didn’t suspend (NOT fire) them, you’d have the headline:

    “Arrogant Patriots refuse to even suspend deflategate scoundels!”

    The best way to prevent this nonsense is to not have them around. McNally wasn’t going to be around until September anyway, he is a game day employee. JJ probably has little offseason duties.

    And if JJ was in Foxboro, you’d be guessing that he was covering his tracks or something.

  73. The rumor has been that Brady has a personal contract with the Pats after he retires that makes up for the money he left on the table over the years. There is no doubt these two guys got a hefty severance check to go away and stay quiet.

  74. Kraft and the Patriots didn’t fire anyone. Suspended, which isn’t usual during depositions. And that NFL controls all aspects of Suspension/Reinstatement of these two now, not the Pats.

  75. I wonder how much the pats are paying them to keep their mouths shut after being fired?

  76. Umm . . . maybe because the league office already said they would be prohibited from doing their job responsibilities in the future? What were the Pats supposed to do, give them jobs as beer vendors?

  77. Were they fired or suspended per order of the league?

    Haters can’t have it both ways. First the Patriots were charge with giving these guys largess and now they are are accused of cutting the loose.

    There seems to be a lot of pr targeting the Patriots and Brady as the bad guys with very little attention being placed on the facts laid out quite well by their counsel and expert.

  78. Maybe the patriots are trying to show they have nothing to hide by keeping them on- if these guys have dirt on the patriots surely they will dish it now that they have been fired

  79. It’s funny how people want to bring the court system in this situation. If the courts was involved he wouldn’t be able to keep his text messages and the guy who wasn’t available to Mr. Wells would have been made available or go to jail. The Patriots need to let this go before it turns around and backfire on them. Brady would not be able to say he doesn’t want any one looking in he is phone the courts would make him give up his phone.

  80. Next time the lying, cheating Patriots need to
    Get Their Story Strait, Before They Make It Up!
    WaaaHaHaHaHa What a bunch of sorry LOSERS. Hey Pats fans, How’s it feel to have your precious Football Team take you for a bunch of idiots?

  81. Where does it all stop? This is turning into an bust from an episode of “Cops”.
    “Do you mind if I look in the car?”
    “Yeah, go ahead, I don’t have anything to hide.”
    “Hand me your purse. I see a large bag of cocaine in here…
    “It’s not mine, I’ve never seen that before”.
    “This is your purse, isn’t it?”
    “Well, it looks like my purse, but maybe I picked up somebody else’s purse by mistake.”
    “Your drivers’ license and credit cards are in it.”
    “Somebody must have put those drugs in my purse then because I would never have anything to do with that.”
    “I ran your license and the computer says you have prior convictions for drug possession and distribution.”
    “Yeah but that was then. I don’t do that stuff anymore.”
    “Um…you have a purse full of coke, a history of convictions and there’s some white powder on your upper lip, m’am.”
    “You’re just singling me out. Everybody does it.”
    “You’re under arrest for stupidity, among other things.”

  82. The new CBA should state that in the event of an appeal the arbitrator can both reduce or INCREASE the suspension/fine/etc.

    From all I’m seeing the Patriots got off easy.

  83. The characterization of the Patriots defense as “long-winded” seems a tad judgmental as well. Actually, I thought it was on point and thoughtful, especially given they had only three days to prepare it and the league had three and a half months to prepare their much longer and more anguished report.

  84. To avoid future trails of text message evidence for the upcoming season…the Pats have hired a bird handler and will be using Ravens to communicate with employees directly handling Tom Brady’s balls.

  85. You fire them because they cannot perform their core job function as they were suspended indefinitely by the league. It’s still a business and what business carried free loaders? I don’t care if it’s a mom and pop or a mega corp…. it’s simple business practice… the moment you stop contributing and not being able to do your job, you get let go. IF the Pats are cleared and IF the league lifts the suspension, I don’t see why they wouldn’t be allowed to reapply for their job, unless their public jackassery txt was viewed as conduct issue. Try sending an email to your coworker saying crap about your boss and if that email becomes public, see how long you’ll last in your job.

    Big point of emphasis though is if these two had dirt on the Pats, it would have been stupid for the Pats to fire them and make enemies out of them. They’d run to TMZ, run their mouths, and collect a fat check. The fact that Pats aren’t afraid of this shows that these two have nothing.

  86. “Lifelong Pats fan here. I’ll always be a fan of the team and Tom Brady. I still think he’s one of the top 5 QB’s of all time who’s earned everything he’s accomplished. Despite the flawed report, I also think they’re guilty as charged. But out of everything, from spygate to deflategate, putting up this website is the worst and most embarrassing thing they’ve done.”
    ———–

    Oh my. There is at least 1 rational Pats fan out there!

  87. Suspended and Fired are not the same thing! I’m now starting to understand why Goddell thought he could screw the Pats – no one bothers to read anything.

  88. If the Patriots are guilty, wouldn’t keeping them on the payroll so they don’t go to media be the smart thing to do in order to cover it up?

    Is it possible that they were suspended without pay for being unprofessional? Or perhaps because they performed their jobs outside the expectation set forth by the organization?

    If I were the guy that was deflating footballs, as directed by the QB, and they fire me while the QB gets to go back making millions, I just might highly consider selling my story to someone.

  89. My guess is it was a PR move because they thought they would be the fall guys in Ted Wells’ report. They can be reinstated when the NFL permits it, which will probably be immediately after Brady wins his appeal.

  90. And in other news. . .

    “Obama was kidnapped by aliens.”

    And now back to our show “We’re the Patriots and we have stupid excuses”.

  91. I”m sick of the whining by the Patsies and their fans. Bush league move to can the equipment guys. Serial cheaters get what they deserve. If I was commish, I would have repossessed the Lombardi Trophy & title. Man up & take your punishment.

  92. Didn’t the NFL call for their termination in the deflate-gate punishment handed down by the NFL? Since they weren’t NFL employees…who should fire them?

    Or…is this another chess move. Employees get fired on orders from NFL and they can sue NFL?

    I’m picking up more popcorn on my way home tonight!

  93. The rumor has been that Brady has a personal contract with the Pats after he retires that makes up for the money he left on the table over the years. There is no doubt these two guys got a hefty severance check to go away and stay quiet.
    ===
    That would be a salary cap violation. If such an arrangement exists, both parties would have to be crazy to write it down.

  94. For God’s sake. You cheated, You got caught. Give up all the bluster and fake indignation and take your punishment.

  95. As I understand it, they’re still not technically fired, which means any NDAs they have are still binding (and could be for some period of time after final termination). But it still doesn’t look good to have someone the Pats swear are innocent being “suspended indefinitely without pay” for no particular reason. Even Greg Hardy got a paycheck.

  96. smasonsmith says:
    May 14, 2015 1:58 PM
    “The Patriots breaking the rules, the refs screwing up and the NFL’s disciplinary system being a sham are not mutually exclusive concepts.”

    -Chris Burke, SI
    ===
    “Someone should tell Chris that the refs screwing up makes it impossible to prove that the Patriots broke the rules.”

    ===
    No, it is still possible to prove the Patriots broke the rules. It just depends on which rule we’re talking about. After all, the Patriots have broken many rules over many seasons.

  97. Two words – Confidentiality Agreement. As anyone whose been fired and given a severance package knows you are required to sign a confidentiality agreement. In the case of the full time employee you have a guy facing months of no income or taking a pitentiay sweetheart severance package that he has to sign a confidentiality agreement to receive. could be a good way to keep a lid on these guys.

  98. I am not a Patriots hater. To the contrary, I have always thought and continue to think Bill Belichick is the best coach in football period…….maybe ever.

    In the past, I, as a Panthers fan, have admired the Patriot’s success from afar.

    My view of the Patriots has drastically changed and not because of deflategate itself, but because of the way the organization has handled its aftermath.

    I am not going to be shocked if their handling of the controversy is used in textbooks as an example of what not to do.

    Anybody not completely blinded by their fandom has to believe that Brady did ask that the balls be deflated and and the equipment guys complied. Brady probably thought that the rules violation was slight and not really a big deal in the scheme of things (and I agree).

    My guess is that this type of thing has been common in the past. It is probably also true that any advantage gained was more mental than physical.

    The original bad act has been overwhelmed by the lies, obfuscation and denials that have followed. I find it fascinating and instructive that the post punishment denials etc. are all coming from the organization and Brady’s agent rather than from Tom Brady himself.

    I think it proves that, not shockingly, Tom Brady is not stupid. Belichick’s silence speaks to his intellect. The steady stream of nonsense emanating from the Patriots is shockingly stupid. Brady’s agent’s pontifications while silly were at least understandable given his agency role.

    What is the Patriot’s excuse?

  99. Now I’m beginning to understand how Aaron Hernandez was able to fleece this franchise’s management.

  100. Yes, this is the best evidence presented so far that they are guilty as it makes no sense to proclaim they are innocent while effectively firing them.

    The team trying to proclaim the innocence with this asinine website seems to only be targeted towards Patriots fans who don’t believe there is any guilt to begin with (since those fans seem to ignore the team basically firing the two guys that are supposedly innocent) so it’s pretty futile to me.

    No idea why they won’t just admit it as nobody really cares. Refusing to admit it just makes the thing bigger than it is and makes the person denying look worse. Look at Bill Clinton and every other person who was guilty and kept denying.

  101. Are you kidding me???

    What did you expect them to do with all the media frenzy as a result of the CRAP Wells report & it’s initial findings, especially when your Star QB & Face of the Franchise absolutly denied he was involved in any wrong doing & while FACTS needed to be sorted out…GIVE THEM RAISES???!!!

    I mean they distanced themselves from Aaro Hernandez before he was even arrested….THINK PEOPLE!!!

    It is a total PR nightmare & until things can be UNBIASEDLY looked into the Pats had NO CHOICE!!

    The report Wells did is now finally being seen for what it is….a witch hunt sting gone bad by the league!!! & with that analysis &biased investigation conclusions & hypothesis is being logically & FACTUALLY rebuked by true proffesionals & even Nobel Award winers in the appropriate fields….

  102. I have to say that Brady & the NFLPA aren’t getting their monies worth from the lawyer whose fees they are paying.

    This defense looks worse than the 1990 Patriots (1-15) defense.

  103. Bradeys crimes in order of significance

    having the balls deflated a a bit, who cares.

    denying he did so…..people care.

    throwing the 30 000 dollar a year equipment guys under the bus for doing what he wanted……that’s a big deal for me.

  104. Instead of all this speculation lets see what a court of law where BOTH sides can equally present evidence to an unbiased jury. So many people want to hang the Patriots without them having a fair opportunity to present their case now why would that I wonder?

    —————————————————————————-

    By all means I hope the Pats would be this foolish. The discovery phase would be quite interesting if not revealing.

  105. BTW, they are suspended, not fired. Facts matter. Could you imagine if the Patriots kept paying them right now? It would be considered hush money. They will be rehired.

  106. My guess is that in light of the investigation these gentlemen would not longer be able to perform their duties for the Patriots or any other NFL team. They just got caught in the cross fire. Innocent or not they had to go. When the dust settles they may or may not be back. Heck them may not even want to be back.

  107. The NFL, through its surrogates, is working hard to trivialize the Patriots rebuttal and cove up the clear procedural violations and prejudice in the Wells report.

    Interesting tactic.

  108. I can understand why fans of the Bills,Jets,Dolphins & even Colts can blindly believe the Wells report since it helps their teams but how anyone without a bias can say that was a fair,independent investigation.By ignoring Walt Andersons best recollection,The natural gas leaks and not measuring all balls with the same gauge they can`t say beyond 50/50 that the balls were tampered with at all let alone finding who did it.
    If you really believe the Wells report had better scientific information than the Noble peace prize winner then i can`t help you.Haters hate so go ahead but those texts don`t prove anything.You need the science to hold up in court and there science is contaminated by missteps.I don`t know if they did it but if i`m on a jury i`m not convicting on that science.

  109. I can’t think of a better way to make an employee spill the beans than to fire him and make him a former employee. Of course, then he has a grudge, an ax to grind. Still, NE is playing with fire on this.

  110. I can’t imagine wanting to fire two employees who embroiled your franchise and tarnished your reputation. I mean, that’s completely unheard of….

    And if the Patriots were really concerned that they had done something wrong, do you really think they’d run the risk of firing these guys, which would make them angry and give them more of a reason to run to ESPN or whichever reporter would give them the most money for their stories? If anything, this should give people more reason to think that nothing illicit happened

  111. You’re not guilty of any crime, but you’re gonna fry. Patriots, the team that keeps on giving.

  112. If he was fired or suspeneded wthout pay, and he and NE is saying he’s a deflator because he’s fat

    Sounds like he can sue NE for job descrimination

    Slippery slope of lies and deceit at 1 Espionage Place

  113. They got fired for using company phones in an inappropriate manner. Using profanity about Tom Brady; talking inappropriately about women and basically acting like idiots. Is that too hard to understand? You ask the question like you’re Lt Caffey, like its some groundbreaking question. It’s not. Did you read the rebuttal??

  114. In the first press conference Brady was in when everyone found out he’s been doctoring footballs a member of the press ask him directly “Is Tom Brady a cheater?” He doesn’t say “No” like anyone else would who doesn’t cheat. Instead he leaves no doubt by answering “I don’t believe so”….. He is incapable of answering a simple question when he obviously has doubt in his own mind….. That was enough for me. He should be banned from the league and anyone else who feels they are above the rules, needs to join him!

  115. These guys are going to make millions on a book deal.

    Hell, I’d buy it. Especially the audio-book voiced by the 2 stooges themselves.

  116. First they were not fired but suspended without pay legally distinctive. NFL approval is required for reinstatement do one would think the Pats were not given a choice about this. That’s further made clear by the restrictions placed on their duties when they did come back by the NFL.

  117. They fired them because they gave up their cell phones that had Brady’s damning messages on them.

  118. This is starting not to be funny anymore. On the field, the Patriots are real good. Off the field, they are starting to look pathetic. They are starting to look like a 6 year old trying any way they can not to be punished.

  119. “Boycott Kraft foods”

    That pretty much sums up the deflategate due diligence of the average hate.

  120. hey new england crybabies, how many championships did the vikings and panthers win when they played eachother and ‘cheated’ by tampering with the ball: zero.

    how many championships have you won by cheating: 2

  121. Best post I’ve read today on this (from a different story on the issue):

    I will say this. The Wells Report was very thin on facts and so is this. It would be so much easier to say. “Yes, Tom asked them to deflate the balls, but only down to 12.5 psi. It appears that a little bit extra was taken out on some. Sorry.” Combine that with the sciencey stuff you get the reported psi. A much better explanation and a whole lot less embarrassment.

    YES! – why didn’t they think of that excuse instead of all this? It makes perfect sense. Sure – it appears the ball boy took some air out during his 100 second pit stop – but that can’t be proven either.

    The Patriots keep acting guilty – when they could so easily have said “Tom likes the ball close to 12.5. We never instructed anyone to go below that. If someone did, it was completely without our knowledge. And we have no idea what that guy calling himself the deflator is talking about”.

    A lot less than 20,000 words.

  122. Don’t worry they will land on their feet, probably in NASCAR pits deflating opponents tires.

  123. @billskissrings, they didn’t post a 20000 word diatribe on Hernandez’ innocence after firing him.

    If firing them was PR, they ought to fire their PR firm over every move they’ve made since.

    If its PR, you fire them, say Tom didn’t know, swallow the punishment, let Tom do his own appeal and move forward.

    Instead Kraft thought he’d do a grumbly get-along acceptance of the report and get a token punishment and go on, and now that he sees he has lost a precious draft pick has lost his mind.

    These guys were expendable and were being expended, and they are now being defended in a rage fueled attempt to contest the report.

  124. also…great seeing pats fans trot out data from the “nobel winner” when half of them can’t even spell “nobel”.

    I thought NE fans were aholes but intelligent. not so sure about the intelligent part any more.

    cheated. caught. suck it up.

  125. Forever Tainted.

    This just gets better and better. The Patriots aren’t just dirty– they are arrogant and stupid. And so so sorry PatFan– there is absolutely NOTHING which can bring back the team’s good reputation.

    Forever Tainted.

  126. vikesr4reel says:
    May 14, 2015 2:55 PM
    If Me Kraft is willing to cheat to win football games, what is he doing to sell his food?
    Boycott Kraft foods

    —————————————–
    ugh – he doesn’t have anything to do with Kraft foods

  127. It’s sad to see this once proud franchise sink to such low levels of embarrassment. The Patriots image is forever tarnished with their 2nd cheating scandal in 8 years.

    I’m not a Pats fan, but if I was….I would renounce my fandom after the embarrassing response today. Insulting my intelligence as a fan would be the last straw.

  128. Reading the comments on this site is hysterical. Most fans of the 31 teams want Brady quartered and tarred.

    I live in Amherst, NH and know a party involved and what happened. ( screen name)

    You are all wrong.

  129. “All of this is smoke.. The meat of the issue is that the Pats’ rebuttal absolutely crushes the Wells report.”
    ————
    Crushes the Patriots credibility. Other than that…it’s embarrassing to think that there are people really stupid enough to believe the manure they are spreading to try to deflect getting busted cheating…..AGAIN.

  130. bchagnon says:
    May 14, 2015 2:32 PM

    Prob the most ridiculous thing i have hear. The patriots paid the ball boys handsomely and made them sign a non disclosure paper. Meaning if they talk the pats can suee. Its that simple.

    here is a good defense- show us your phone tom. Lol stop coming up with insane excuses.

  131. So many LOSERS wishin’ and hopin’ that the Pats get taken down…

    Face it, Brady under center week 1, guaranteed.

    If Kraft wants to sue, he’ll be vindicated too.

    Can’t wait to come back here and lap up your tears when the appeals/lawsuits are over.

  132. No, it is still possible to prove the Patriots broke the rules. It just depends on which rule we’re talking about. After all, the Patriots have broken many rules over many seasons.
    ===
    Not this rule. Not this time, anyway.

    If the League was really out to get them, the made a complete has of it.

  133. The Pats and Kraft can sue all they want. Any rational judge would laugh them out of court after looking at the facts.

    Hernandez was convicted of murder on less evidence.

  134. I suspect that signing a non-disclosure agreement is a condition of employment for all NFL teams. McNally could make a fortune off the talk show circuit, and I am sure TMZ would make him a very substantial offer to spill the beans, if not for the this ‘tiny’ legal obstacle. Too bad for McNally, he could have made more money than he has grossed with the Patriots in 32 years with one phone call to TMZ. Heck, he could probably have made enough to retire and flip the bird to Brady in the process.

  135. Patriots without them having a fair opportunity to present their case now why would that I wonder?
    ——-
    So, you’re saying everyone is being unfair against the Pat’s?

    But deflated balls against your opponent is simply a new fangled weight loss plan?

  136. Clearly they fired McNally because he’s fat–blatant “size-ism” and sure to result in a law suit… unless they gave him a severance package of, say, about $1M…? Just to help him lose weight by sewing his mouth shut.

    And Jastremski had unreconcilable “artistic differences” with management. Happens all the time.
    Mere coincidence they were canned when they were.

    Similar coincidence you might not believe: Brady just got a new cell phone because he lost the old one!

  137. Kraft sues then the NFL will countersue for Kraft violating his Franchise CBA for not suing the league or other owners.

    Lets see where that goes. Some of you Pats teenbeaters never heard of Al Davis

  138. This is one of many misnomers pats fans keep dancing around. And we will continue to hear that this just isn’t true.

    Also that the only things not taken out of context from these two /texts. Are that the refs are to blame and that one of them washed their hands cutting time off the 2 1/2 minutes left alone in the bathroom with all the pats game balls.

  139. So in the text messages these guys said F Tom, talked about giving Brady overinflated footballs and talked about getting shoes in a less than honest way

    Sure sounds like grounds for suspension to me…

  140. It`s funny listening to fans cry “tainted” at the Patriots like it makes them feel better about getting their butts kicked.As a Bengal fan living in Indianapolis and neutral on both teams i`ve lost more respect for the Colts than i have the Patriots.The PSI had nothing to do with the outcome of games. (Falcons pumping in crowd noise has a bigger effect)
    The i can`t beat you so i`m going to go tell on you is sad.It has created a rift between Grigson & Pagano also as Pagano knows it had nothing to do with the game and is pissed that Grigson tattled.
    I`ve seen no PROOF of cheating and even less evidence that it mattered.The coach wants his players to man up and beat the Patriots while the GM is making excuses.Or Pagano knows his team (and most) do things like that,

  141. goingthextramile says:
    May 14, 2015 2:42 PM
    Robert Kraft is making Donald Sterling look good.
    ——————————————–

    Wow…just wow. Glad there’s no hate completely and totally obscuring all logical thought.

  142. This is the ONLY case I hope comes to fruition. If the Patriots did nothing wrong then they should not have fired McNally and/or Jastremsky. But the FACT is they did which would tell me they did something wrong. If they did something wrong then why would Brady want to “console” them in any way?

    The more information that comes out truly appears to make the Patriots look guilty. Sorry but true.

  143. Was it choice by Pats? Note that the statement also states “Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent.”

  144. The Deflator already has a FT job. He’s a beer distributor in NH.
    ——-
    “Had” a full time job. The distributor decided he doesn’t want reporters on his doorstep so he fired the Deflator too.

  145. Bill got confused, he thought he could treat them the same way he dealt with Blount last year – terminate them now, then bring them back later, at a more favorable cost.

  146. There could have been a million legal reasons for the Patriots firing the 2 ball boys while still having to defend them from the bogus Wells Report. There appears to be an anti-Patriot agenda everywhere I look these days, which sickens me as an American.

  147. asox says: May 14, 2015 2:23 PM

    Umm . . . maybe because the league office already said they would be prohibited from doing their job responsibilities in the future? What were the Pats supposed to do, give them jobs as beer vendors?
    ****
    Well one of them had already been employed 20 years before being made into a ball boy.

  148. This whole thing is a scam, It always is when Goodell and the owners get together. Goodell is paid by the owners to take the heat, and those same owners are welome to add to it if it makes them look good in front of the fans. Goodell says “lemme have it” and they do pile it on, along with 40 mil a year

    Kraft could care less about the crime or the punishment. He makes the same money whether the Pats win or lose. Believe me, when contract time comes around for Goodell the owners will quickly and quietly vote to renew it, and it will be unanimous.

  149. Instead of all this speculation lets see what a court of law where BOTH sides can equally present evidence to an unbiased jury.
    _______________________________________

    Listen, I know you’re all moonlight lawyers over there in New England, but you do understand that this is a private-sector employment matter? If Brady or Patriots file a lawsuit it would get thrown out immediately with no hearing on the merits.

    If you ever get disciplined for something at work, ask for an unbiased jury before you are suspended. Come to PFT and tell us all what happened.

    Be a fan of your team but not a blind moron. You’re OD’ing on Kool-Aid.

  150. If you guys actually read the report instead of just responding to headlines you would know why they got fired.Their texts didn`t say anything about balls under 12.5 but they said plenty of other things that got them fired and would from most company`s if found out.Nobody wants to actually take the time to look at the entire report or the Patriots response because it`s boring.

  151. I’ve brought this up numerous times, the Pats logic goes like this.

    We didn’t do anything wrong. But we’re canning our ball boys. Because they must have done something wrong or else they don’t get fired.

    Just like they want you to believe that the detail-obsessed quarterback of the most anal-retentive team in football would have no knowledge of what was going on with something so trivial as the very football he plays with.

    Like with Spygate, it’s harpoon the little fish and let the big fish swim free.

  152. Kind of sad to see the Patsterisks fans so blinded from common sense and reality. I’m truly embarrassed for them and their organization which continues ooze smugness and deceit. Let’s add in a murderer for good measure to their recent history.

  153. sbchampsagain says:
    May 14, 2015 2:22 PM
    As soon as the Deflatriots know you’re guilty they fire you and distance themselves as much as possible.
    Ask Aaron Hernandez.

    ——————————————————————-
    Didn’t they cut him before he was even charged?????

  154. In the NFL the term, “suspended indefinitely” doesn’t mean fired. They can be suspended until the Patriots feel they have cleared their names and people have forgotten them.

    Adrian Peterson was “suspended indefinitely”.
    Ray Rice was “suspended indefinitely”.
    I believe Josh Gordon was suspended indefinitely before he came back last year. Rice was reinstated during the season and Peterson was just reinstated. Nothing is permanent or guaranteed in the NFL. Not contracts, not suspensions, not fines as they can all be cut, reduced or dropped altogether.

  155. Instead of all this speculation lets see what a court of law where BOTH sides can equally present evidence to an unbiased jury.
    ___________________________________

    Listen, I know you’re all moonlight lawyers over there in New England, but you do understand that this is a private-sector employment matter? If Brady or Patriots file a lawsuit it would get thrown out immediately with no hearing on the merits.

    If you ever get disciplined for something at work, ask for an unbiased jury before you are suspended. Come to PFT and tell us all what happened.

    Be a fan of your team but not a blind moron. You’re OD’ing on Kool-Aid.
    —————————————————Really?you think so?Why did the NFL get overturned on suspensions for Vilma,Rice & Peterson?Obviously you don`t work at a place with a union.Without merits?Your not even a good moonlight lawyer.

  156. It’s clear that Tom Brady is washed up. He had to cheat just to keep up with the other quarterbacks. Too many years of soft living has finally caught up with him. Looks like the dream is over.

  157. If I were any of these two, I would NO DOUBT write a book.

    They aren’t under oath.

    They are no longer employed.

    They have been thrown under the bus by Brady & the Patriots.

    I absolutely would do an exclusive interview/write a book about the events.

    ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!

  158. bad math going on here…

    The Pats are saving paying bradey $2million and paying a $1mill fine.

    That means the Pats have made $1million not lost $1million.

    theurnhelm says:
    May 14, 2015 1:53 PM

    If your words and actions were interpreted by the authorities in such a way that it cost your employer over $1 million, you think you’d keep your job? Even if they believed you did nothing wrong?

  159. Now I know you were never a lawyer. Whether they were involved in a scheme or not, they did end up costing the team millions. So why wouldn’t I fire these part-time workers?

  160. There is a fine line between indefinitely suspended and fired. It’s a thin one but the fact remains that since the suspension can only be rescinded with approval from Troy Vincent that the suspension was required by the NFL.

  161. Someone mentioned about brady not turning over his cellphone.. he was asked by Wells to have access to electronic records pertaining to the texts, not turn his cellphone.

    As far as this stunt.. the patriots are a complete joke.

  162. If you were told by the NFL that you could no longer let an employee do the job you hired them to do WHICH THE NFL DID, you’d probably let them go too!!

  163. Whether you agree with the Wells report or not, no one should be surprised that the only guys to really be hurt in all this are the guys that can least afford to bounce back. Crap rolls down hill. Brady won’t feel any financial hardship. Kraft? Are you kidding? But two working stiffs, yup, they are out of work and screwed…..

  164. great reward and maybe this can get Tom off the hook and just explain the reference to balls was about weight lose but the phase ” this is how Tom likes his balls” can’t be explained yet. Now former players say this is common with the Patriots. Well no matter the fans will cover Tom’s lost salary, 1 million dollar fine and the legal appeals fees. Some die hard fans say the Patriots will be back and beat all the teams to show Tom is King with or without deflated or inflated balls. No problem with Tom lying or cheating it is ok because he is of course Tom Brady now a legend in Football for the wrong reasons. But it what at lease Patriots call a hero.

  165. Maybe for the same reason you titled this article

    “The Patriots fire….” when the article clearly states they were suspended indefinitely…

    Appearances…

  166. Of course they were fired. First thing is they have been banned by the NFL. Second thing is if you read the text, they were saying things like “f” Tom Brady- ya that went over like a lead balloon I bet. The last point is, if they had something to hide, would they have fired them? Many people will pay Big Bucks to have them tell their story in front of a camera- think about it!

  167. Firing the ball guys was just a phony gesture to make Roger think the Pats are apologetic and fixed the problem permanently before Goodell would make a final decision on a punishment.

    The stunt didn’t work.

    So, now it’s full-on play dumb play innocent the ball guys did nothing wrong; we’re all clean like we said mode.

  168. When are Patriot fans going to wake the hell up! Your team continues to get “caught” cheating…

    Key word is “Caught!”…

    Sure there possibly are other franchises they bend the rules as well, but “Spygate” arguably is the biggest cheating scandal in NFL History!

    Your Franchise has deceived you to think that you are just this dominant talented well coached organization that is so much better than everyone else, well you know what if this is so true why the hell are you keep getting “Caught!” Cheating!!!!

    Instead of being frustrated with other NFL Fans who pay and support there franchise just as much as you do just because for the 6th time in the past 20 years your franchise has been “Caught!” cheating… why not look your own franchise in the mirror and say “guys can we please stop getting “Caught!” cheating.

  169. Another lie by drunken Kraft.

    The IRS should now be involved as under the table compensation is taxable.

  170. Patri*t Nation,

    Where is my GoFundMe account?

    After all, I’m the true hero in all this. I’m the one who took good care of our footballs and wouldn’t tattle on Tom Brady even when I was thrown under the bus and lost my job.

    Instead, Patri*t fans choose to donate their hard earned money to millionaires.

    Who knows… maybe one of these days I may have to tell the whole story. I mean, I still have a family to feed don’t I?

    Sincerely,
    The “Deflator”

  171. Since when is suspended the same as fired? Let’s wait and see if they are reinstated now that the real facts put into context has been revealed. Deflator wasn’t at all what Wells assumed it was and neither was the espn reference. Release all the texts you fraud Wells!

  172. Obviously Darin Gantt graduated from the Ted Wells school of guilty first, damn the facts. Long winded? Hardly. Enlightening. You bet!

  173. Misleading headline, but what’s new?
    I guess fired and suspended are the same thing.

    McNally should think about suing Ted Wells and the NFL.
    A lawyer would take that on, and he would have a good chance at beating them.
    Case against espn, too.

  174. If I were these two bozo’s I’d get a deposition together with all the details and send it to Kraft and have a couple copies put in secure places regardless of any NDA payout.

    Hernandez waxed a couple guys for spilling his drink, no telling what the suits would do to protect their investment

    I wouldn’t want my next of kin reading “Former beer distributor and part time Patriot employee shot 30 times in a hunting accident”

  175. On may 6th Robert kraft said they are not agree with well’s finding but they will comply with the NFL finding which implicated two patriot employees but not sure of Tom Brady.
    that is why Mr Kraft fire two employee not to challenge the league office integrity. when everybody challenging the patriot organization integrity that left no choice for Mr kraft .

  176. suspended without pay and being fired are not exactly the same but I’m sure the equipment guys will just live off their boat load of “hush money” until they get re-enstated, so yeah.. they’re good.

  177. The league needs to check those guy’s bank accounts. I’m sure they are both full and they will be unavailable for comment.

  178. Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised Commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th. Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent. If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.
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    Looks to me the NFL told the Patriots to do it. Note that if they are reinstated they can’t do the job’s they were doing without Troy Vincents approval. Of course suspending them during the off season means they don’t lose any pay and I would bet that by the time the new season rolls around they are both reinstated and given a duck boat parade thru Boston. These guys were smeared and after the defamation lawsuit I think they just might be able to afford to quit their part time jobs.

  179. The majesty of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady will continue this year, culminating with another stunning win in SB 50.

    I will be here all season to remind you sheep of their domination and to document the upcoming unprecedented season.

    Stay tuned.

    Thus endeth the lesson.

  180. These two are probably hiring agents to thrash out a nice wedge for themselves. $10,000 pa over the next 10 years in line with inflation. Probably Cash to suite both the tax and traceable aspect of things

  181. Over a decade ago the Whizzinator was suspended from the vikings indefinitely.

    He never has been been reinstated.

    Suspended indefinitely means for eternity until it doesn’t.

  182. imodan says: May 14, 2015 6:50 PM

    Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised Commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th. Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent. If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.
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    Looks to me the NFL told the Patriots to do it. Note that if they are reinstated they can’t do the job’s they were doing without Troy Vincents approval. Of course suspending them during the off season means they don’t lose any pay and I would bet that by the time the new season rolls around they are both reinstated and given a duck boat parade thru Boston. These guys were smeared and after the defamation lawsuit I think they just might be able to afford to quit their part time jobs.

    The funny thing is that the author, Gantt, posted that statement about Vincent and the suspensions a few days ago. He should research himself.

  183. If the Patriots are convinced these guys were innocently texting about losing weight, then why did the patriots refuse to allow Mr. Wells have a second interview with “the deflator”. Seems like a second interview could have shed light on the nickname? Seems like the only reason to refuse a second interview would be because you have something to hide.

    Also, why didn’t Tom Brady give up his texting logs if he had nothing to hide? Also an interesting point.

    Now, not only will history see them as cheaters, but also as big fat liars that think the American public is stupid enough to buy their garbage. Shame on them, they are supposed to be role models and show youth today that when you are wrong you accept the punishment, apologize and learn from your mistakes not to repeat them. Instead, this whole “deflate” weight loss garbage makes mockery of their integrity.

  184. I think they fired them so when they inevitably come clean to the press, the Patriots and Brady can claim they’re disgruntled ex employees who cannot be trusted.

  185. Jesus, don’t you guys even read this stuff before you print it? Or comment on it? Here’s a reminder for those of you too lazy to look it up yourselves. This is part of what hte NFL punishment said: Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised Commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th. Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent. If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.

    Duh.

  186. Pats are revealed as heartless cheating scumbags and Brady is smug liar willing to throw the little guy under the bus the second it suits him

  187. Mr. McNally–ESPN (or maybe even TMZ) calling. How about a cool million to tell your side of the story? How stupid are the Patriots?

  188. You do realize that McNaley is a “GAME DAY” employee so suspending him without pay basically means nothing??? There are no games right now so he isn’t losing out on anything.

    Basically this “suspension” or as you put it firing. Is all for show to protect the employees. Nice “reporting” guys.

  189. This is great comedy and for that I Thank You Patriots. I can’t decide if the team trying defend it or the pats fans defending is better material.

    “The Patriot Way”.

    Bill still can’t control himself, he is already thinking of how he can cheat the rules this year.

  190. Still waiting for Tom Brady to simply stand in front of the world and simply say ‘ I DID NOT DO THIS. While they’re attacking the Wells Report and everyone else, why haven’t we heard him just say this? Gee, I wonder why?

  191. CHEATERS! All of their championships are tainted and this will also help keep that crybaby brady out of the HOF. I remember KRAFT at the Super Bowl this year getting on national TV and demanding a apology for his team but it is you KRAFT that should be asking for forgiveness after all this cheating through all these years. America should boycott KRAFT FOODS.

  192. Brady is a low life. He should have been watching those employees backs. Hope they spill everything to the league.

  193. Next up for the Pats…the Chewbacca defense. Cause I think they have almost dug all the way to China already so they might as well just finish it off

  194. Since deflator and shoe thief got fired they should release the cheat master ( Brady ) as well. There’s no way they would mess with the footballs unless they were told to do so by someone.

  195. Shocker..Tom Shady cheats and the “little guy” and his family pay the price.

    Just ask Moynihan about being pregnant and Tom Shady cheating.

  196. It doesn’t matter what happens with the appeal. Convicted in the high court of public opinion. Guilty, life sentence of getting trolled for being cheaters. Might as well stop defending yourselves and looking like morons. We all know your boy is guilty AF.

  197. Fired the guys but say there was nothing wrong done? Patriot way is to throw the little guy under the bus. Tom better hope Jimmy G plays poorly or that same bus will take him out next.

  198. Oh look, the headline from “fired” to “suspended”, without an edit, retraction, or a change in the “You’re Fired” stock image.

    “Without pay” is meaningless since it is the offseason.

    Not to mention the report mentions re-selling of apparel and ticket allotments, which I doubt are allowed under the terms of their employment.

  199. Part of the Pats defense is that the other teams didn’t get investigated- You’re right. The other 31 teams weren’t dumb enough to get caught cheating… TWICE.

  200. On your own website the following was posted. It would seem to me the league had at least some involvement in the suspension if they cannot be reinstated without Troy Vincent’s approval.

    “The league announced that neither can be reinstated without league executive vice president Troy Vincent’s approval, and spells out that: “If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.”

  201. All you Patriot and Brady bashers sound like a bunch of adolescents. You exaggerate everything in an effort to make this some kind of aggregious act. Let’s assume that everything they are accused of doing is true. Brady had the equipment guys let a little extra air out of the balls. BFD. For that the Oatriots are fined a million bucks and lose a first and fourth round, Brady gets a four game suspension, and the equipment guys get indefinite suspensions. That is rediculous. What they did was no worse than the Vikings warming up the balls, kickers over inflating the balls, players spraying silicon on there jerseys, or countless other acts that go on every week. The precedent is now set and teams will be losing first round picks right and left if discipline is handled fairly. With Goodell in charge what are the chances that happens? Goodell is trying to restore his reputation as a tough guy after the Ray Rice debacle and players and teams are paying for it. To all you people that want to make this more than it is all I can say is get a life. I personally can’t stand Brady or the Patriots but not because of air pressure. I can’t stand them because my team can’t seem to beat them and that pisses me off.

  202. The LEAGUE finally admitted it was them that requested the Patriots suspend those guys.

    Poor Patriot hater. Pwned AGAIN! 🙂

    /this topic

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