Wells contradicts his own report regarding McNally texts

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Tom Brady’s agent Don Yee made it clear last week that he shouldn’t be talking. Earlier today, the Patriots made it clear that, specifically as to the notion that game-day employee Jim McNally called himself the “Deflator” because he was trying to lose weight, they shouldn’t be talking. Tonight, investigator Ted Wells made it clear that he, too, shouldn’t be talking.

Via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post, Wells addressed the contention from the team’s WellsReportContext.com website that Wells had in his possession all relevant text messages before Wells questioned McNally the first time. Which means that a follow-up interview wasn’t necessary, because it wasn’t based on any new evidence or developments.

Wells explained to Hubbuch that, because the message in which McNally calls himself the “Deflator” was sent in May 2014, Wells hadn’t noticed it before questioning McNally the first time, since Wells had gone through only the text messages from the 2014 football season at that point.

Apart from the question of whether Wells or someone from his team should have churned the billable hours to review all text messages before interviewing McNally (and they should have), Wells’ explanation contradicts his own report.

At page 87, Wells quotes a text message from November 2014 in which McNally said, “Deflate and give somebody that [jacket].” Wells then explains in the report, “We planned to discuss this message with McNally during our requested follow-up interview. As noted above, we were unable to do so because counsel for the Patriots refused to make McNally available.”

In other words, Wells’ comments to Hubbuch are not factually accurate. Wells now says didn’t notice the May 2014 “Deflator” text message because he had reviewed only the text messages sent during the 2014 football season, and yet the Wells report expressly states that he wanted to question McNally a second time about one of the text messages sent during the 2014 football season.

And so, basically, pretty much everyone connected to this case now has significant credibility problems. Which means that the best outcome may have been (and may still be) for the league to admit that it created this mess by having inadequate football inflation and security procedures, by possessing inferior knowledge of the science of football deflation, and by paying insufficient attention to the reality that, in cold weather games, footballs routinely have an internal pressure below 12.5 PSI. The league should simply have changed the procedures, warned all teams that any efforts to circumvent those procedures in the future would be met with harsh punishment, and not attempted to punish any of the many teams that may have taken advantage of what ultimately was proven to be incomplete and borderline inept enforcement of Rule 2, which seemingly requires the football at all times to be between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI, regardless of the weather conditions.

But since Commissioner Roger Goodell sees most if not all disciplinary issues in black and white, he surely learned nothing from the not-so-subtle rebuke that his predecessor, Paul Tagliabue, provided in the bounty scandal, when Tagliabue demonstrated how a Commissioner should go about presiding over a change in NFL culture. The NFL’s culture regarding football inflation definitely will change, but it’s happening only after it makes an example of one team that, based on the scientific evidence, may not have actually tampered with the footballs prior to the AFC title game.

150 responses to “Wells contradicts his own report regarding McNally texts

  1. thank you! nobody wants to point this stuff out because it’s boring and doesn’t fit the narrative.

  2. Doesn’t matter what “side” you are on, that was report was an embarrassment and has done nothing but further hurt the NFL’s image.

  3. Patriots should have let him interview McNally a 1000 times if they wanted too. It doesn’t matter. Cooperate or get the hammer.

  4. The Patriots should have let Ted Wells interview Jim McNally as many times as he needed to in order to complete the investigation…Cooperate or get the hammer? The Patriots chose the latter.

  5. Did you guys see, the 2012 Olympic relay team were stripped of their medals… Sucks. Apparently Tyson Gay got caught brady’ing and they all were punished for it

  6. So wells is lying?

    The deflator meaning losing weight is odd but only believable since it was sent in May, 4 full months before McNally would be at work. So i tend to believe it

  7. Amen!!!! When this is all said and done , TB12 will be watching the banner be raised against the Steelers.

  8. I agree that the Pats weight loss argument seems silly – however the rest of the 20000 word blog is spot on, so its about 98% solid.

    My only issue is they could have been much more critical of the refs – they missed the fact that the refs inflated the Pats second half balls to 14.3 PSI. Overall, there is a ton of info that the refs are very casual with PSI.

    By contrast, the Wells report is 20% solid, 80% misrepresentation.

    Go ahead and down vote – it’s pretty clear the haters are even more hateful now that Wells is going down.

  9. “… may not have actually tampered with the footballs prior to the AFC title game.”

    U seriously think the Patriots didn’t tamper with the footballs???

    Yeah, and the “Deflator” was McNally’s nickname purely because he needed to lose weight. Gimme a freaking break.

  10. Florio, I knew you’d see the light. This entire story is officially the biggest joke of a “scandal” in the history of American sports, and it’s largely because so may people are so tired of getting their tails whooped by the New England Patriots.

  11. Yes – this exactly. This whole thing is a colossal league blunder regardless of Patriot culpability. This is now in need of a BountyGate-level do-over.

  12. Bob Kraft’s check must have cleared after all, because you’ve been posting nothing but pro-Pats* propaganda since Saturday.

    As a lawyer, you know full well it’s not uncommon to interview the same witness multiple times for any number of reasons. It’s not unusual at all to interview a key witness twice. Riddle me this–why did the Pats* lie about how many times Wells interviewed McNally (saying they denied the 5th interview, when it was really just the second) and why did they not even pass Wells’ request along to him instead of simply saying it was too taxing on the “Deflator”?

    Give it up on the physics arguments, too, until you can tell me why the Pats*’ balls deflated at a rate nearly 3x the rate of the Colts’ balls. Funny how none of the Pats* Mumford jumbo science deals with that….

  13. Fumbles don’t lie.

    Check the fumbles.

    Pats cut fumbles in half in one off season – when the rules changed and they were able to ‘manage’ their own balls.

    CHEATERS FOREVER

  14. When you look at every issue, Goodell has failed at every single one of them. Even incognito.

    The NFL IS a success in spite of him.

    It’s the best sport on the planet. It needs a leader who is not a moron.

  15. I don’t see how heating the balls got off with a warning. The Chargers also got away with towels dowsed in stick ’em, again just a warning. Teams have had multiple players caught using PED’s, no loss of picks. The term “preparing the balls” is used for a reason, every does something or there would be no term.

  16. Bravo Mr. Florio! I hope roger has an open mind since he took on the appeal himself…. If not, it’s gonna go federal… And by the sounds of this… He doesn’t want that

  17. So the Pats are trying to justify why they didn’t allow for that follow up interview… What I don’t get is… Who cares?

    Investigators come back and ask follow up questions when any number of new developments occur. Why do the Pats think it’s okay to block that process from taking place because they just think it’s been enough?

    Besides, if these guys haven’t done anything wrong, then why did you suspend/ fire them? What is the reason, and why do you fire them and keep Brady? It’s completely contradictory to the “we never did anything wrong” message they’ve been pushing.

  18. uhh ok, maybe I’m just dumb but is May 2014 considered the 2014 football season? I thought football started in September. Either way he wanted to interview him again. Is that against the rules? I don’t understand how this gives him credibility issues.

  19. So Wells would have read the text that was sent in November, because it was during the season. And not the May text because it technically wasn’t during the season. I don’t see the contradiction….Unless there is football in May and I’m missing it!

  20. This is a very good article. For some dumb reason, I read the report and immediately saw “spin” and key facts (like the fact that 3 of 4 colts balls measured below 12.5 on one of the gauges) being buried and not brought to light in the executive summary. As a person that does not care either way, the way in which the report presents the evidence is severely skewed. Had I known that the “deflator” text been sent in May, it should have been immediately dismissed as McNalley was called out in Feb.

    Also… What the hell ever happened to the guy caught stealing balls during the game for the purpose of selling them? While you may not think it matters, it may be part of the equation.

    Also… I’d like to see if it’s even possible to take 1PSI out if 12 balls in a little over a minute. Say it’s 15 seconds each way to get in and out of there, that leaves 5 seconds per ball. How the hell is that possible while fumbling through a bag. Someone needs to test this out.

  21. I’ve heard of carrying the pail before, but this is carrying the well for the Patriots.

  22. Texts can’t prove intentional deflation by the Patriots and that is what the Wells report is trying to do and he even uses a text from MAY 2014 as proof. Thats absurd.

    The absolute most important part of this mess has not been proven – were the balls used by the Patriots deflated? The answer is no, it has not been proven. If you use the gauge that the ref said he used, the balls were not deflated, if you use the other one they might have been. That makes it a toss up. It is also true that if you bring the balls inside from the cold the PSI increases. It is assumed that the Colts footballs were checked last and they ran out of time. In any event some of the Colts balls were deflated.

    For the footballs to be deflated it had to be done by the man who stopped in the bathroom for 100 seconds. What was the rush, by the way? As an open minded person I find it doubtful that Brady will have one guy spend hours upon hours getting footballs prepared and then after picking out the best 12, he will want a part-time only employee to lock himself in a bathroom and arbitrarily let some air out of each ball, as fast as possible with no way to check. Basically a perfectionist, Brady, a guy who even scripts his entire off season, needs to rely on a guy on the floor in the bathroom to tinker with something with no way to check or correct and that has been worked on for hours and personally checked by Brady. Not a chance in my opinion

    I thought the Patriots cheated after reading the Wells report but not anymore. I have no doubt that the Patriots have spoken with the equipment guys AND Brady and they know the truth. That is why in my opinion the team, not just Brady is fighting this.

  23. “…one team that, based on the scientific evidence, may not have actually tampered with the footballs prior to the AFC title game.”

    THANK YOUUUUU

  24. The faster this goes away, the more dignity the commish can save. Unfortunately for him that won’t save his job. How many times can a commissioner screw up and show unfathomable ineptitude and still have support from the owners? It’s time for this bad joke known as Commissioner Rodger Goodell to end.

  25. Not that I have a dog in this fight… but I am just loving watching this train wreck. It is just getting better and better.

    Anyone, on either side of the issue, that thinks they know the “right” answer is simply delusional or an imbecile. I have been doing workplace investigations for years and have trained numerous up and coming investigators. Even the most inexperienced of them could have produced a better report and based findings on solid evidence.

    Wells left probably 150 important and pertinent questions unasked (or intentionally omitted) and made an opinion based on assumption which is contrary to most investigator’s duties (they gather facts, not cherry pick from the gathered facts to fit a specific narrative and subsequently render it as an incontrovertible fact in a report). Besides, when Wells, as the hireling of the NFL came out to defend himself… it just served to highlight his failings in the investigation. The report should be able to stand on its own, without needing a defense. The report, in this case, doesn’t and because it has been subjected to so much scrutiny it is, by definition, a poor investigation based upon spurious results and conclusions – but presented as grounded in fact.

    Roger: Do yourself a favor… Change your mind and appoint a neutral arbitrator to hear this toxic mess. The only way to stay clean is to stay out of the sewer pit when the stuff hits the fan. A neutral arbitrator could uphold or strike it down and you could simply say “justice” was done whichever way it comes out.

    Of course, I am secretly glad he is taking the burden on himself. I have tired of his inability to keep this and other issues from interfering with my enjoyment of the game. I’d rather hear a small snippet in the news a month or two after an incident like this with an announcement of “Team X has been given a 6 figure fine for violations of rule X which occurred on X date”

    Since Roger has made the NFL the joke of modern-day sports…. He should probably think about retiring. I am sure there are plenty other “pretty-boy” businessmen/lawyers that can take the reigns and grow the business without having to CONSTANTLY air our dirty laundry and then screw up the reaction to it.

  26. This has been an absolute train-wreck for the NFL since the Colts first picked up the phone to call them, and Roger Gooddell is the only person in America to not think that.

    Sadly, he is also going to hear Tom Brady’s appeal, which is the biggest reason why he should NOT.

    Roger Gooddell is not going to survive this.

  27. Yikes… They actually paid this guy FOUR to FIVE million US dollars. He can’t even get his facts straight. Isn’t Wells supposed to be the best of the best?

    I guess that’s what happens when your values are for sale. This guy and his 243 page suck up to the NFL report have no credibility. Bring Tagliabue back please, whatever the cost.

    Even as a Patriots fan, I feel a bit cheated that we had to endure this after Spygate, but this time we’ll never really know what happened.

  28. Nice write up Florio and partially agree with you on how the NFL should have handled it. The main aspect I totally agree with is the NFL’s lack of accountability on securing and ensuring all game balls were to code. The fact that they were aware of complaints about NE’s shenanigans and still failed to securely watch over the balls is unacceptable. The problem is that when the league messes up, nobody is held accountable and in particular Goodell. He whiffed on the Rice situation and could have nipped deflategate in the bud before it turned into a cluster fudge and he dropped the ball on both. Where is his punishment?

    The commissioner is in a position to inctease revenue for all owners. He is also expected to be an enforcer by 31 teams if one of the 32 steps out of line. It becomes a conflict of interest in a sense. There should be two positions, the businessman looking to make all owners a profit, as well as an unbiased judge that ensures the NFL constitution is abided by.

  29. Unfortunately, goodell only cares about making money. Never in his life has he ever cared about the nfl itself or the integrity of the league. I’ll give him this, he’s excellent at making money. Unfortunately, however, he sees everything in green.

  30. “The NFL’s culture regarding football inflation definitely will change, but it’s happening only after it makes an example of one team that, based on the scientific evidence, may not have actually tampered with the footballs prior to the AFC title game.”

    Its maddening to me that these supposedly intelligent people choose to ignore the science. It appears, to me, that most sports people talking about it didn’t read past the first 22 pages to make their own decisions concerning the ‘evidence’ and that’s just bad.

  31. Is it likely that a text sent in May which uses the word deflate, can ‘definitively’ be tied to a conspiracy to circumvent league rules that would not have been needed until the following September. Who plans conspiracies that far ahead with guys at equipment handler level, is is not Oceans 11!

  32. Don’t bring logic into this Florio, it doesn’t fit the haters narrative.

    When this goes to federal court and it will, the Pats will have all charges dropped because this whole thing is total crap.

    Brady never had the footballs tampered with and it will be proven outside this kangaroo court.

  33. Roger may want to claw back some of his million-plus dollars from Wells & Co.

    “Although receiving no assurances that the requested additional Mr. McNally interview would satisfy the agreed-upon interview protocol, Patriots counsel nonetheless suggested that there might be ways other than another in-person interview to get whatever further information was sought.

    ***[Such as a phone interview].***

    Patriots counsel offered to be of assistance in those respects. There was no follow-up from the investigators. It now appears that the Patriots are being severely punished because the Wells investigative team apparently overlooked materials they had in their possession long before their interview with Mr. McNally — scarcely an “unanticipated circumstance” calling for yet another interview — and refused to disclose their reason for an additional interview. There was no refusal to cooperate by the Patriots.

  34. So, the Deflator comment was from May 2014 and not October like the Wells report states? I guess if we keep looking back at McNally’s text we probably can find words like steal, rape and Murder. And then Brady will really be toast!

  35. Lions fan here…..

    This has been a witch hunt from day one and nothing the supposed “impartial investigation” suggested has changed my mind.

    No smoking gun.

    No rouge employee copping to the charges.

    Supposition and misguided logic do not equal guilt.

    Flawed science built on inconclusive measurements by people lacking a profoundly thorough understand of the science speaks to nothing more than….

    A desperate league trying to placate a ravenous fan base that needs a Judas to fill the off season.

    This entire episode is a joke. An awful waste of time and resources. The NFL should be forced to donate the same amount of money they spent on the “investigation” to a charity.

  36. The commissioner must go for this one. Kraft needs to rally the other owners and throw this bum out of the league. He is doing everything in his power to ruin the greatest sport in the world.

  37. Its amazing how an organization so big as the NFL can screw up every investigation they run just so they can get the answer they want and thereby mess up people’s lives and reputations by leaking innuendo to the public at the same time. Where is the professionalism?

  38. The text was from May. The month of MAY! Think about that.
    No football games played anywhere near that time.
    Deflate and fit into a new jacket.
    Given that 1 of McNally’s jobs has to do with deflating and inflating footballs, that’s the language he’s used to.
    Not as farfetched as it’s being made out to be.

    Brady wouldn’t be involved with the ball guys in MAY 2014
    or May of any year.

  39. Wow. FINALLY!
    An article that’s not biased and is actually looking at the whole situation level headed.
    This is why Pats nation is defending there team!!!
    How any NFL Fan doesn’t know there’s a serious issue with discipline and how Goodells is running this league is beyond common sense

    Defend the wall Pats Nation!!!
    TB12 + BB = GREATNESS
    🏆🏆🏆🏆 🙌☝️😂

  40. Pats’ haters don’t wanna listen to this kind of facts.
    This was a witch hunt, a sting operation, produced by envy and jealousy around the league.

    The Pats are coming back with a vengeance.
    Can’t wait ’til Brady shuts everybody up, and all the haters start saying that Brady’s manipulating the ball via remote control.

    The Patriots and their fans embrace and appreciate the hate.

    Go Pats!

  41. So now he says that me missed the text. According to the Patriots, he would not tell them exactly why he wanted the (5th) follow up interview with McNally. They surmised, correctly, that Wells had just missed the text and wanted to ask him about it. So the Pat’s were right, this was not “new” evidence. He had a team of lawyers, who all, apparently missed this text. Pats offer to get an answer another way rather then an in-person interview, Wells ignores them and says they obstructed.

    Call me a homer but I find much more credibility on the Pats side of this.

  42. I wonder if this is by design: Have Troy Vincent absolutely hammer the patriots in a typical NFL overreaction to the rough year they’ve had, then Goodell can have a chance to be the voice of reason by pointing out the lack of conclusiveness to all the science and circumstantial evidence from both side and reduce the penalty to something everyone can accept – say 1 game, 1/2 mil, 3rd round pick…

    Who are we kidding though. Nothing we’ve seen from the NFL or Goodell over the last few years has been reasonable, consistent, or intelligent.

  43. I still can’t fathom why the NFL would allow a full half of the Colts game to be played before taking action if they thought ball pressure was such a big deal.

  44. Good article- this has been a real mess from the start, and with Goodell presiding over the appeal it could get much worse.

  45. A pretty fine point here, but clearly Goodell has been power hungry from the start, dishing out absolute judgment and harsh penalties from the beginning as desired by the owners. Now he’s captive to his past disciplinary actions unable to take the foot off the pedal lest he seem to be playing favorites. It takes the common sense out of the process which is the one indispensable thing.

  46. Wells contradicts himself? That’s crazy talk! Oh that’s right, he was bought and paid for. Makes perfect sense. And now that the emperor–I mean the Commissioner will hear the appeal of the punishment he handed down himself, we can look forward to more railroading. Looks like it’s off to federal court.

  47. After reading this tripe I think it’s safe to say we can now add one MORE name to the list.

  48. All we need is some bikini clad women to chase Tom Brady while Yakety Sax plays to make this picture complete.

  49. To me, the worst thing is that this man had a team working with him, charging in the thousands of dollars per hour and didn’t notice “deflactor”.

    Still, there’s a big difference between Spring 2014 and the actual in game season, November 2014. I agree that all messages should have been reviewed before interviewing people for the first time, but I don’t find a big contradiction in his statement because I am making a natural assumption, that other people make… when they look at Spring 2014, they still think more about the 2013 season than the 2014 one.

    In any case, I think there’s no reason for the Patriots to have stopped a second interview. It just painted them in a bad way… and now comes the hilarious revelation that “deflactor” was about the mans weight. So you have to wonder, why would they stop a man that was innocent from clearing up everything? Makes no sense.

  50. Its strange to say, but if the Patriots’ “punishment” ends up being reversed, Goodell may have started the chain of events that leads to his firing. By using an “iron fist” in this instance, (perhaps the one time there was not enough clear evidence to do so) he showed his ineptitude, in my opinion anyways.

  51. So now even Ted Wells is debunking his own report. The last person to not see any problems with the investigation is surely Roger Goodell because well that’s what he does.

  52. Am I reading this right, Wells said he hadn’t noticed the May 2014 comments, but later said he wanted to follow-up with McNally in another interview, how is this contradicting himself?
    I read it like he focused on 2014 season, and didn’t catch it before the first interview, but later caught it and wanted to followup in another interview.

  53. It seems that what we have here is a failure of epic proportions.

    If Goodell had any common sense, he’d just follow PFT’s directions and have the NFL…

    “admit that it created this mess by having inadequate football inflation and security procedures, by possessing inferior knowledge of the science of football deflation, and by paying insufficient attention to the reality that, in cold weather games, footballs routinely have an internal pressure below 12.5 PSI.”

    Fat chance (or is that Deflator chance) that Goodell will display common sense.

  54. or how about giving brady a 1 year ban and taking away the entire 2016 draft for the pats for their outrageous abuse of the legal system?

  55. Wells report acknowledges the reality of the Ideal Gas Law. IF the gauge the ref remembers using for pre-game measurement was used, the balls were fine and no scandal. IF you ignore the ref’s recollection and ASSUME he used the other gauge, then there’s a .3 PSI difference that can’t be explained by the Ideal Gas Law. There are dozens of text messages where they talk about Brady preferring 12.5 PSI and asking the refs to set the balls at that level (which they did). So, you then have to believe that Brady wanted the balls deflated .3 PSI below 12.5. That’s the scandal? .3 PSI? Why would they even bother to ask the ref to set the balls at 12.5 if they were just planning to secretly lower them to 12.2? Most teams didn’t ask the refs for a specific level (the ref assumes the Colts were shooting for 13 PSI just because the balls were all clustered around that number). .3 PSI is imperceptible. It’s actually within the range of variance on the cheap gauges used by the NFL. You literally can’t tell the difference. It strains credibility to think they would have a conspiracy to lower the PSI by an imperceptible amount.

  56. & Roger still hasn’t grown a brain stem as he has appointed himself as the ” impartial & nutral arbitrator”… One more biased & untrue step on a TOTALY bungled sting operation by the NFL in an attempt to deflect all the other bumbling steps this so called commissioner has made on an ongoing basis….not only does science PROVE this investigation is a fraud, but by appointing himself as a nutral & independent arbitrator he mocks the entire process of what arbitration is actually suppose to be….totally unbelievable how incompitant this regime is claiming to be….I guess the US court system is where this will finally have to end up to be justly & fairly exposed for what it really is, or should I say really isn’t!!
    Integrity of the game… GIVE US A BREAK YOU DICTATOR FRAUD!!!!

  57. To me if he called himself the Deflator in May it makes the probability he was referring to his weight that much more credible. Unless a locker room attendant was obsessing over how he would be handling the games balls four months down the road when the regular season started.

    Fire Goodell.

  58. A rookie Lawyer always looks over the Disposition, in this case the Text files. So for Super-Lawyer to miss the word “Deflator” is a joke? His investigation is about DEFLATion. Long live FRAMEGATE!

  59. Because grown men text each other about actions that they AREN’T doing?? Yeah, sounds innocent to me. Just accept the punishment and move on.

  60. I don’t buy the term deflator was used in context of losing weight. I’ve been a personal trainer for 15 years, and I’ve never heard anyone use that term that way.

    Don’t most teams have their first minicamps in May/June? It seems “more likely than not” that any conjugation of the word deflate was related to footballs.

    In any case, why are they talking about jackets in May? I think there may be an alternate meaning for the “jkt” in the text. Ideas?

  61. Hopefully everyone who hates the Patriots can read this and come away knowing the NFL acted unfairly here, and tried to pin the Patriots for something that was created by a failure in NFL policy.

    Gotta love the blame game. They knew the general public and media would be on their side for it, too.

  62. To quote Judge Judy, “When you tell the truth, you don’t need a good memory”.

    “The NFL’s culture regarding football inflation definitely will change, but it’s happening only after it makes an example of one team that, based on the scientific evidence, may not have actually tampered with the footballs prior to the AFC title game.”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    And there you have it.

  63. The “deflator” referred to himself as such once in May 2014. Wells decided that was his nickname and then used it throughout the report when transcribing text messages and also mentioned it repeatedly throughout the footnotes to give the impression that this was an ongoing thing. The report plants the seed in your mind (the deflator) and then repeats it over and over. Pats explanation of context in the texts makes sense because they support it with prior text references and witness interviews. Wells pulls single texts out of context and then interprets them to fit his conclusion.

  64. If Brady and the Patriots had cooperated fully to begin with then maybe this all blows over.
    They didn’t, so no matter what happens from here on out, they are and will be continuously hounded as a cheating team by all others but the Pats Faithful.
    If, everything the Pats claim is true, then why didn’t they just cooperate from the beginning?

  65. I think Wells has no credibility just for the simple fact one day he said to himself “I think I will grow a moustache.

    The whole thing seems pretty slimy. Goodell hands him the investigation and millions of dollars in billable hours.

    Wells is not going to come back and say “You’re a little off base here Rog”.

    Wells could be 100% correct or could have approached this with 100% bias. We won’t know. Bad move by NFL. Goodell just seems to enjoy shooting himself in the foot.

  66. and while we are on the subject of footballs – so why was San Diego only fined $25K for an adhesive applied to the footballs but the fortunes of a nation seemingly rely on this?

  67. When people don’t read the reports, and have a bias to begin with, you get misinformation spread like this:
    pftmaniac says:

    “I don’t buy the term deflator was used in context of losing weight. I’ve been a personal trainer for 15 years, and I’ve never heard anyone use that term that way.

    Don’t most teams have their first minicamps in May/June? It seems “more likely than not” that any conjugation of the word deflate was related to footballs.

    In any case, why are they talking about jackets in May? I think there may be an alternate meaning for the “jkt” in the text. Ideas?”

    The JKT reference is in November during the televising of the Patriots/Packers game- not May.

    I also suggest to you that vocations have distinct vernacular. It was actually this guys’s job to DEFLATE balls as they arrive in boxes at 15 P.S.I.. (See details in rebuttal.) You think the nickname may stem from that? (See details in rebuttal.) If anyone actually read the rebuttal, you will learn that deflator, in terms of the weight loss issue, was the secondary use of the term. (This is bolstered by supportive texts, unlike Wells’ report.) The Patriot-hating media has succeeded in misleading the sheep.

  68. Hahaha, Tom Brady cheated and the patriots tried to cover it up. The NFL has nothing to gain from another football scandal whatsoever. You people who blindly support the pats are conspiracy theorists at best. It’s baffling how much has to be thrown in your face about Brady doctoring balls and yet you still defend it. So sad.

  69. Side note – I might lose my mind if I hear one more person make the argument that the Patriots wouldn’t suspend these guys if they didn’t do anything to the footballs.

    Not only are they the centerpiece of an ongoing issue, it has become very clear that they’ve been stealing team equipment (sneakers) for quite some time. It is in no way an indictment on the Patriots that these two guys were suspended (not even fired).

  70. I’ve been thinking along these same lines lately.

    All along I’ve thought that the NFL case against the Patriots and Tom Brady was too weak, and as such figured at worst we have a ‘pine tar’ incident, and at best ‘cold causes shrinkage’. (Something George Costanza figured out a long time ago.)

    More recently I realized that none of this is important. None of this rose to the level of ‘cheating’, at least not in the minds of the players involved.

    If the NFL thinks this is important, then in the future they should treat it as such. Up to now they haven’t. They should have just flushed everything and gone forward under the new rules. Instead, they’ve upended a porta-potty. I can only imagine their thinking being, ‘Hey, we might be covered in poop, but we made sure to get some on the Patriots, too.’

  71. This isn’t the only contradiction Wells’ report makes. And it’s really the most convincing part of the Patriots response. In the Wells’ Report, the executive summary states that Brady has a preference for PSI at 12.5. It rejects the idea that Brady doesn’t specifically tell the equipment staff this specific preference. If this is what Wells’ believes then why is he ignoring his own implication that what Brady meant by 12.5 was actually less than 12.5, that somehow these men, being told 12.5, deflated it to some other random level despite Brady’s specific preference? Because you can have your deflator texts mean whatever you want them to. At no point does Wells show us evidence that contradicts Brady’s stated preference, or even that these two men were deflating balls after the refs inspection. It is easily the biggest jump the Wells report makes, and he doesn’t justify it at all

  72. I agree with one conclusion of this article. The NFL was apparently unaware that they had an unenforceable rule. That is, that the weather and other elements will have an impact on the psi of a football. If the psi value is of such importance, they need to change the rule. There is no telling how many games have been played with footballs that do not meet the requirements of the rule.

  73. I am a Colts fan, as such I do have a severe dislike of the Patriots from a rival perspective.

    #1 I think it is a dumb rule in the first place. You want the best competition. Prepare the ball to your liking and may the best team win. Since of course the teams are not sharing the balls I don’t see why it matters.

    #2 Did not impact the game what so ever. The Colts trying to strip every ball instead of making the tackle is what lost them the game. Maybe they force one fumble if the balls are properly inflated, still doesn’t change the whooping we took.

    #3 A rule was broken. Information as to who or how often is “probable” at best. I would rather see Brady on the field and fine the team if you need to.

    #4 The biggest concern I would have is cooperation with the investigation. again, this to me is a team decision not a personal decision by Tom Brady. So punish the team if the league feels the cooperation was not enough, but let Tom play. This seems like overkill to me.

  74. “Side note – I might lose my mind if I hear one more person make the argument that the Patriots wouldn’t suspend these guys if they didn’t do anything to the footballs.

    Not only are they the centerpiece of an ongoing issue, it has become very clear that they’ve been stealing team equipment (sneakers) for quite some time. It is in no way an indictment on the Patriots that these two guys were suspended (not even fired).”

    Oh, puleese. It seems like all this stuff was subsequently signed by Brady, so it’s not like it took place under the cover of darkness. Also, why wouldn’t the Pats have come out and explained that this is why they were suspending the two of them? And if you really believe you did nothing wrong and have clearly chosen a defiant stance, why only protect Brady, but not two other guys who have been loyal to your organization for a substantial portion of their lives?

    If you believe nothing happened, you don’t suspend without pay, you, at best, reassign to different duties.

    If you’re going to tell me the trade in team merchandise isn’t essentially a part of the compensation package for guys with these jobs, you must have a bridge to sell me.

    It’s all as plausible as the hilarious excuse that Brady called the guy 6 times because he was concerned about some gofer’s emotional well-being.

  75. That minor inconsistency is hardly reason to claim “there is no reality and we must give up altogether.” For one, a reference to the word “deflate” is far less noteworthy than a message where a guy refers to himself as “the deflator” (Wells’ team had not read this prior to the final McNally interview).

    Mainly, though, this is representative of all the attempts at hole poking that do not begin to invalidate the questions Pats fans cannot answer.

    For example, why ball pressure arguments are irrelevant at this point:

    1. Why were these two guys essentially fired if they didn’t do anything? Explain that one.

    2. The guy first said he didn’t use the bathroom – then admitted he used the bathroom and said he used a urinal – oh, wait, there is no urinal in that bathroom. Explain that one.
    (this is made further comical by testimony that he used the bathroom in the officials’ area frequently prior to that weekend)

    3. The balls were STOLEN from the officials’ room. No one, to my knowledge, has done this besides the Patriots. Explain that one.

    4. Brady’s texts and phone calls after the fact are DAMNING – Tom Brady is on the phone that often with a go-fer if he’s not in the midst of trying to cover something up? 6 phone calls of not insignificant length to a guy he never talks to on the phone. Explain that one.

    Bonus: Anyone saying Brady was asked to turn over his cell phone hasn’t read the report. He was not asked for his actual cell phone. See p. 21 of the Wells Report. It’s explained clearly there.
    Definitely read pp. 104-109, too.

    The Patriots aren’t fooling anyone with a modicum of intelligence.

  76. Yeah why should they allow a second interview with evidence like this. The pats are cleared now.

  77. And so, basically, pretty much everyone connected to this case now has significant credibility problems.

    ***************************

    You mean everyone from Goodell’s side, right?

    First they said they had no prior knowledge before the game, which has been proven to be 100% false.

    Then came all the misinformation leaks Goodell allowed to spread during Superbowl week, and after.

    Throw in the fact that at halftime they only measured 4 out of 11 of the Colts footballs, conveniently “running out of time” just as they realized found one that was measured as being underinflated.

    Ignoring Walt Anderson’s recollection of which gauge he used in the pre-game measurements.

    Yet, still not a single shred of evidence, even circumstantial, that points to Brady requesting footballs be less that the required 12.5psi. Not a shred of evidence that anyone was deflating balls after the official measurements were taken.

    I agree, there are serious credibility issues at play here, but not on the side most football fans want them to be on.

    Thus endeth the lesson.

  78. The problem essentially lies in the letter sent to the Patriots notifying them of the investigation. It lists several inaccuracies:

    1. That all the Patriots balls fell under the legal limit (which should be expected due to the 12.5 preference and basic physics)

    2. That one of the Patriots balls was at 10.1. (None where)

    3. That none of the the Colts balls dropped below the legal limit. (At least three of four did based on one official. The fourth clearly a typo).

  79. If Ted Wells is worth $600 million or whatever, why couldn’t he fly to McNally instead of making McNally take time off of his regular (out of state) job and come to him?

    Besides not being able to keep his story straight, the premise itself seems rather absurd.

  80. Other than the vocal minorities mainly are desperate and hopeless fans from the AFC East, 95% football fans or no fans are rational and objective about this case. They said that this Deflategate thing is laughable. It’s a freaking air pressure. The game was close and Pats destroyed Luck and the Colts in the 2nd haft with proper balls. They won the SB with proper balls.

    This is a Framgage and a sting operation to attack the Pats of Goodell to satisfy the vocal minorities whose so tired of the Patriots, BB and TB dominance in this generation, and just to show that he is “objective”, not Kraft’s puppet and has balls to fight this great organization and this powerful owner.

    Wells and Goodell will go down in this one. Goodell will finally resign. Both Brady/Gisele and the Kraft’s family will take this thing to court and the Pats will win easily (again).

  81. There are scientific evidences in the Ted Wells context website by real scientist that let us know that if the ball deflate within the NFL limit, but in cold weather they’ll still be deflate below the limit due to weather condition.

    The Colts football is below the limit, too. Even if they are not below the limit, it just mean that they set ball at a higher weight than the Pats did.

  82. There is one more inconsistency in the timing around McNally’s self-use of the term “the deflator” being applied as proof that he was intentionally deflating balls after referee inspections.

    If McNally was systematically deflating balls (as is supposed by the investigators) as far back as some time before May 2014, then how on earth did the Patriots end up having to play against the Jets at home that season with over balls inflated to over 16 psi? Surely he would have deflated those rocks.

    Or, on the other hand, if Brady and the ball handlers first became aware of ball pressures after that Jets game as seems more likely, then how would McNally using the term “deflator” give any indication of guilt in the illegal deflating of balls.

    As daffy as it sounds, the ridiculous report that it had something to do with weight loss may have more probability than what they supposed.

    Also, the ball boy and equipment manager were suspended after the ruling from the commissioner. It was a requirement of the punishment handed down for that to happen. The Patriots had to hand out the suspension because the two employees worked for the patriots, not the league.

  83. In case no one else responded to this tripe:
    jjmerlocklives says:
    May 15, 2015 11:28 AM

    “Mainly, though, this is representative of all the attempts at hole poking that do not begin to invalidate the questions Pats fans cannot answer.

    For example, why ball pressure arguments are irrelevant at this point:

    1. Why were these two guys essentially fired if they didn’t do anything? Explain that one.

    Answer: First, they weren’t fired. They have been suspended. There are many reasons to do this. The most important being that they stole equipment.

    2. The guy first said he didn’t use the bathroom – then admitted he used the bathroom and said he used a urinal – oh, wait, there is no urinal in that bathroom. Explain that one.
    (this is made further comical by testimony that he used the bathroom in the officials’ area frequently prior to that weekend)

    Answer: Your premise is a lie. You would know this if you paid attention to the two reports. He was asked by Security, the first interview, if anything “Unusual” occurred on his way out to the field. He said no. In the second interview, they showed him videotape of his walk to the field that showed he went to the bathroom. He then responded that this was not unusual. (This is in the rebuttal.) He did not lie about the bathroom. Further if you had read the rebuttal, the official’s locker room was extremely crowded because of the playoff atmosphere, and we now know with extra NFL people trying to sting the Patriots. He simple wasn’t comfortable going to the bathroom there. This is in the testimony. (But not in the Wells Report.)

    3. The balls were STOLEN from the officials’ room. No one, to my knowledge, has done this besides the Patriots. Explain that one.

    Answer: Also, in the rebuttal. No such thing occurred. He asked Anderson if he could move the balls into the next room, where officials were watching the NFC playoff game because it was so crowded in the officials locker room. He was given permission. (Anderson recalls this.) He sat in there with many officials. never out of their site. There is a whole section describing this along with officials and video that shows it. Wells chose not to include it in his report. You need to read it in the rebuttal, but I know you won’t.

    4. Brady’s texts and phone calls after the fact are DAMNING – Tom Brady is on the phone that often with a go-fer if he’s not in the midst of trying to cover something up? 6 phone calls of not insignificant length to a guy he never talks to on the phone. Explain that one.

    Answer: Well, first there is not even a single damning text. Two, you have your numbers wrong. Three, if you have just been accused of doctoring balls, you may want to talk to the guy who does the balls and ask him what is going on… This is also detailed in the rebuttal but left out of the Wells Report.

    Bonus: Anyone saying Brady was asked to turn over his cell phone hasn’t read the report. He was not asked for his actual cell phone. See p. 21 of the Wells Report. It’s explained clearly there.
    Definitely read pp. 104-109, too.

    Answer: Well, you finally got one sort of right. However, the request from the Wells Report is B.S. Do you think, someone like you for instance, would accept any texts from Brady that did not incriminate him? Absolutely not. You hate him and distrust him. You would be crying like a baby that they didn;t turn everything all over. Be serious.

    “The Patriots aren’t fooling anyone with a modicum of intelligence.”

    That leaves you out.

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  84. Florio, you slipped by me at midnight your most rational post during all of deflate gate. Trump’s recommendation to Brady got you thinking, didn’t it?

    Welcome aboard the logic oval thinking train.

  85. One of the reasons for these toes of mistakes is that Wells was revising his report and that of his expert right up to its time of release. With all the holes in their case they just missed this obvious error.

  86. Florio, you really should give this thread more prominence on your site.

    The way it looks now is that this is cya.

  87. wk1234

    1. Yeah, that’s a really secret way to “steal” equipment, to have your star quarterback autograph all of it. Very secretive. And no, equipment guys around the league don’t have a steady trade in signed equipment. Gee, who made the argument that this is commonplace? Oh, that’s right, the freaking Patriots!

    2. He still claimed to use a urinal that didn’t exist. And it’s apparently just me, but taking the footballs that will be used in the AFC championship game to the bathroom with me, WHILE I AM BEING QUESTIONED ABOUT THE CUSTODY AND STATUS OF THOSE BALLS – yeah, to me that would have qualified as pretty freaking unusual. Nice try.

    3. That’s simply terrific. Even you knew this was BS as you typed it. Being given permission to move the balls from one highly trafficked, highly visible place to another highly trafficked, highly visible place IS NOT REMOTELY EQUIVALENT to being allowed to take them to a private, off-camera location, and taking the balls to the field was not contemplated either, as evidenced by the officials confusion as to where the heck the footballs were. That’s not even a nice try. That one is pathetic.

    4. Ha! You are correct. It was SEVEN phone calls, not 6! Hardly a point in your favor. 4 phone calls on Jan. 19th, 2 phone calls on Jan. 20th, and a final phone call on Jan. 21st. Missed that last one. You really got me there. Yes, seven phone calls – some of them of substantial length – between the star quarterback and a gofer for what? To go over the fact that this is in the news? That takes Brady 5 minutes and one phone call, and then further communications are handled by one of Brady’s assistants. 7 phone calls to “talk to the guy who does the balls and ask him what is going on”!!! Fantastical! No one buys that BS except for the heavy infestation of Patriots fans at this site. The nation is laughing at you.

    Bonus: You know I’m correct, they never asked him to turn over his phone. You typed some more babble after that.

    Well, you gave it the old college try, I’ll give you that, but you just got a nice taste of the back of my hand.

    The lot of you are out of your gourds on this. It’s a shame that a city as generally intelligent as Boston is embarrassing itself so thoroughly with this nonsense.

    And you couldn’t be more wrong about my feelings about Brady. I’m as big a Michigan fan as there is out there so… of course I’m a Tom Brady fan. And I still am. I just think it’s obvious that he lied here and I wish he’d fess up and move on from all this. He’s still a great quarterback.

  88. #2 should read: And it’s apparently just me, but taking the footballs that will be used in the AFC championship game to the bathroom with me, IF I AM BEING QUESTIONED ABOUT THE CUSTODY AND STATUS OF THOSE BALLS – yeah, to me that would have qualified as pretty freaking unusual. Nice try.

  89. Dear jjmerlocklives,

    I stopped reading after your first point. If you can’t get the simplest of facts correct, responding is a waste of time. We’re talking about shoes, or “kicks,” as these guys called them – not footballs. Nothing to do with Brady signing anything. So, wrong again!

    Live in your Patriot hate. I love it.

  90. Yes, Brady has never signed anything besides a football. Enjoy your massive delusion. The rest of the country finds the Pats’ reaction a complete joke.

  91. I like the theory, though – on the one hand the guy is a valued enough employee to merit seven phone calls from the great Brady, himself, just to check on his emotional state, on the other hand an essentially life long employee gets an indefinite suspension for a missing pair of sneakers and a hoodie.

    Which is so much more plausible than the idea that Kraft was ready to take the punishment, which he expected to be minor, and to offer up two low levels – and then changed his mind when the punishment was worse than he expected.

    Occam’s Razor, indeed.

  92. Funny how you use Occam’s Razor for this unimportant aspect of the controversy and totally dismiss it when it comes to the natural loss of P.S.I. of the footballs.

  93. I don’t apply Occam’s Razor when a dude saunters off with the footballs without the officials’ knowledge.

    The “reportincontext” stuff says nothing convincing on that point. What a ridiculous presumption that anyone doing something they shouldn’t be doing “looks furtive.” Because I’m sure when thieves teach their apprentices they always lead with “look furtive. It helps to make sure no one notices you.”

    It will be a big horrible waste and embarrassment for all involved for this to hit the courts, but it will sure be entertaining for the rest of us. I just hope you all understand how it works and just what they will and will not be able to challenge in a court system. Challenging an administrative proceeding in the courts is not as easy as some of you probably think.

  94. Not a Patriot fan, just a objective observer. I read somewhere that Brady did NOT have any contacts with these two employees for 6 months PRIOR to the Deflategate. How could Brady be accused of instructing these two guys to deflate the balls in the AFC Championship game if he had not had any contacts with these two guys for 6 months before this game? Granting Brady texted Jatremsky afterwards, but that could be Brady was concerned for the stress this employee was under.

  95. Wow…Florio….you are starting to regain my faith again! My contention all along has been that truly intelligent people that take the time to actually review the facts and evidence, instead of simply accepting Wells’ flawed perception, will see that this whole investigation is a sham. Too bad Goodell refuses to do the same. All evidence suggest that it is more probable than not that Brady, and the Patriots, are innocent.

  96. Considering that the “deflator” comment happened only once, in the middle of a common pre-diet month of May, by a fat man, and included a reference to a jacket – it is much more likely that the Pats explanation that it is referring to weight is true, and that Well’s suggestion that it implies to deflating footballs four months before the season starts is nothing more than a desperate reach to support his own flawed agenda.

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