Jack Del Rio thinks #DeflateGate punishment an “overreaction”

AP

While most coaches are doing their best to stay out of the #DeflateGate business, Raiders coach Jack Del Rio didn’t mind wading in.

Speaking at his induction into the Southern Cal Athletics Hall of Fame, Del Rio compared the NFL’s punishment of the Patriots to the penalties levied against his alma mater after the Reggie Bush investigation.

I think there are some similarities in terms of an overreaction, from my standpoint,” Del Rio said, via the Associated Press. “I think it was a little bit overdone, but that’s somebody else’s problem right now.”

The second part of that quote might not absolve him from the first in the minds of some, but Del Rio said that the league would have been better off giving advance notice to the teams involved.

“Everybody understands that quarterbacks all want to get the balls how they like them, and why not?” he said. “They throw these balls around, and one of the reasons the sport is so popular is the ability of guys like Peyton [Manning] and [Tom] Brady to throw the ball the way they do.”

The Patriots were fined $1 million and lost first- and fourth-round picks, and Brady was suspended four games, pending his appeal.

At the same event, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said he supported the league’s investigation.

“Nobody wants to play this game thinking that somebody has some kind of advantage, players and fans alike, and so they did the right thing in following up on it,” Carroll said.

That’s the safer way to discuss something that’s not necessarily your business, which is the way most are choosing to go about it.

106 responses to “Jack Del Rio thinks #DeflateGate punishment an “overreaction”

  1. he as every right to pull the John Elway or Rex Ryan route the way the Pats have beat the team’s he has led. I’m glad he was sensible and saw this stupid scandal for what it was

  2. Funny thing is majority of coaches (past and present), players (past and present), and reputable sports writers, think the same! Just message board trolls and media trolls feel like the Pats are evil. Go figure

  3. Cheating and withholding information, so you don’t do Jack to the culprits?

  4. And the majority of America, NFL executives, and team owners disagree. What is your agenda for posting articles like these? Is the author a Patriots fan? Do you actually think you can influence public opinion? FYI, the cat is out of the bag, the Patriots “dynasty” will be viewed as fraudulent, and there’s nothing you can do to change this. I’ll be shocked if you actually post my comment, I’ve noticed you seem to filter comments that favor the Pats, and I doubt I’m the only person who has noticed.

  5. Of course it’s an overreaction. What other team has been penalized for having their footballs obey the ideal gas law?
    IGL predicts 11.32 to 11.52. Patriots footballs were 11.4. If the patriots were deflating footballs they were doing a horrible job at it because they didn’t take any air out!

  6. Hey Petey, how many of your players have been suspended for PED’s?? Ouch!!!!

  7. The irony is that Bob Kraft said earlier that even though he maintained the Patriot’s innocense, he and the team would accept the league’s punishment. Taht coulkd have ben the end of it. But that was before the totally biased Wells report was released and that was followed by a complete overreaction by Roger “Captain Kangaroo” Goodell who had to try to show evreybody how tough he was. Now as a result he has lit the fuse on the bomb and it does not seem like there is any way to step back from the edge. He has dared people to take him on and now the challenge has been accepted. The best outcome I can see is if Goodell is fired. He has been on a course that is going to lead to the ruination of the game and now has upped the ante.

  8. fearthehoody says:
    “..Funny thing is majority of coaches (past and present), players (past and present), and reputable sports writers, think the same! …”

    The vast majority of them are sure keeping it to themselves then.
    In fact, not many of Brady’s own teammates have come to his defense.

  9. The only people who think a psi or 2 makes Tom Brady, Tom Brady, are those who were already predisposed to hating him. Period.

    This is a classic case of the cover up being greater than the crime.

  10. Traditionally when there are reports of cheating the league tells the culprit “we’re on to you; knock it off; we’ll be watching” and then they watch to make sure cheating doesn’t happen. This protects the integrity of the game from the moment the report is received onward.

    The way the league went about this shows they wanted to catch the Patriots in the act and take punitive sanctions more than they wanted to stop the cheating. That they let it go on for an entire half of a conference championship game when they could have prevented it shows the “integrity of the game” line is baloney. They sacrificed integrity and a LOT of money in order to catch the culprits and punish them.

    So yeah, Del Rio is right. They did go overboard.

  11. He’s right on. Want to make a point and show your power, take down the top dog. I’m a Trojan and a Pats fan from New England, and have always thought how they handled the Bush stuff at USC, and Spygate for the Pats was analogous.

  12. largentthanlife says:
    May 17, 2015 6:49 PM

    Here comes the Patriots Internet Defense Force.
    *************
    The Patriots actually have an entire PR team whose entire job is to troll the internet and vote up each other’s comments. Totally unnecessary if they could only find a way to follow the rules!

  13. I mean, i agree with him fully. The patriots certainly did it,and on an extremely technical level it is cheating i guess, but to me its so overblown and the level of competitive advantage gained is so minimal in comparison to the absurd backlash and firestorm tht has been created.

    Basically, i juwt want people to shut up about it and let it go away because the fact that anyone cares this much is rediculous.

  14. “Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said he supported the league’s investigation.”

    Hey Pete, I supported your decision to have your QB throw the ball from the 1 yard line.

  15. The Patriots are embarrassing themselves with their ridiculous explanations. A smart businessman like Robert Kraft should have a publicist that would tell him they should shut up and take their punishment. If they would let this go they may save their reputation. Fighting this tarnishes them and they will be known as a bunch of cheating liars and Brady’s legacy will be ruined. People would forget all of this if they let it go. Everyone is sick of all of this.

  16. Practicegate (2014) flag
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    TEAM: The Seattle Seahawks

    SEVERITY:scale

    SUMMARY: Not learning from their 2012 version of this cheat, the Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll was fined $100,000 and the Seahawks were fined $200,000 and the team lost two double practices in 2015 for violating no-contact rules that govern NFL teams’ offseason practices.

    The Seahawks were fined an undisclosed amount in 2012 by Goodell for a similar violation under Carroll’s supervision and lost their final two organized team activities practices. The 2011 collective bargaining agreement bans physical contact between players during the offseason.

    VICTIM: The entire league

    PUNISHED? Yes

    PUNISHMENT: Pete Carroll was fined $100,000 and the Seahawks were fined $200,000 and the team lost two double practices in 2015

    Pete the CHEAT and his cheaty cheat Teams: NUFF Said

  17. And when my kids have kids.. They will watch football and announcers will talk about the Patriots dynasty back in the early 2000’s… Led by Tom Brady and coached by Bill Belichek. And they will wear Pats jerseys to school.. Because none of this will matter then. History tends to forget the little stuff, like Chris Mortensens name. So go Pats. Build that legacy for my great grandchildren!!!! Pats forever baby!!!

  18. Said the coach of the most penalized franchise since the dawn of time…

  19. Your right Jack!! who really cares? They still beat the Seahawks didn’t they.

    Get over It

  20. Three letters for Pete Carroll.

    P.E.D

    Being bigger and stronger truly is cheating.

    At least he never had a college national title vacated.

    Oh wait……

    Patriot fans are like the Pats. We have the upper hand ..in other words you jealous NFL fans always receive the beat down.

    The Lombardi’s are safe!!!!

  21. Using the gauge that was Anderson’s best memory- the Pats balls fall within ideal gas law- even using Wells’ experts. And using same gauge 3 out of 4 balls were below 12.5. But Wells report conveniently uses diff gauges in testing- so to make Pats wrong and Colts good. It’s so absurd any unbiaaed view can pick rhis up. Eithwr nothongnhappenwd or there is no evidence that something nwfarioua happened. And if something ‘nefarious’ did happen, it was only so because the Patriots did it.

  22. Good for you, Del Rio. As a Tom Brady doormat for 15 years, it really means something for him to come out and acknowledge that, even if something did happen (and there’s no proof it did), it isn’t a big deal. Wish Steelers fans (another perpetual Brady doormat) had the same sense of dignity. Well, some do.

  23. As a avid Pats fan I really don’t think it’s overblown at all… What I do believe is that it is a total & utter travisty on behalf of the NFL…
    I believe a highschooler could have done a more thurough & educated investigation than the Wells team….
    For Roger to not step back & just flat out admit that this was his biggest screw up to date just shows how out of touch with reality he is…his own fact finding mission does not hold up to the science that completely contradicts it’s findings…Even more so than that, he chooses to disregard all the protocols & comments by his representatives that do not support the outcome of the so called ” independent” report….
    When Brady does take this to court, & he will, EVERY ruling imposed by the not for long commissioner will be overturned…I just hope Kraft goes after this with the same vengance & gets all the sanctions against the TEAM overturned as well….

  24. Man you guys whine a ton, until your team gets caught. Every team has skirted the rules. He’ll my 49ers under Walsh screwed with the Giants making them have to remove their headsets.

    Gentlemen, take a long look in the mirror, if you have never lied or twisted the rules a bit, than keep up your whining. If you have buck up and move in with your life…

  25. JDR is instilling the old Raider attitude back into the team. Basically, the Raiders don’t care what the other team does. You wanna let out or put more air than allowed as it relates to the game balls. Go ahead. You want us to play on a bed of broken glass and nails, while you play on plush turf. Fine. You wanna blackout our headsets, while yours work fine. Great. You wanna put some Franklins into the refs pocket to get more Tuck Rule type calls. Make it happen.

    The Raiders don’t care. They are going to just physically beat the man in front of them and win games. Just like old times, pal.

  26. Gantt-” Not necessarily Their business”. Are you kidding me-Finally someone (who has had very little success against Brady I might add)Tells it exactly like it is and it’s not his business? Everyone except the Pope has commented on this, and I am sure he has thoughts on the subject.

  27. Actually, if the Pats weren’t habitual cheaters and if they hadn’t been doing this since 2007 as PROVEN BY THE CHANGE IN FUMBLES, I might agree.

    But given those FACTS, it was a get out of jail free.

    It should have been a year each for Lady, Belicheat and Krap and a two strike warning.

  28. I’m going to enjoy watching Tom Brady play on opening week of the regular season. I’m sure the new NFL commissioner will enjoy the game as well.

  29. I think the statement was very clear and concise, The
    NFL is sick of the Patriots and Bilichick breaking the rules, and cheating to get even the smallest advantage.
    With him being the GM AND Head coach he has nobody really looking over his shoulder to reign in his actions. Now the team is beginning to buy into his way of thinking.
    In some ways using obscure rules can be seen as brilliant, but they have been pushing the boundaries on rules that were meant to Govern
    plays and formations rarely used pre modern era Football, and Goodell is pushing back.
    With this punishment the NFL is telling the Patriots and the rest of the NFL, “If you decide to skirt the rules, bend bounderies, or intentionally break them, no matter how small, be ready to accept the consequences”.
    The Packers just became Rodgers biggest fan in guaranteeing one, if not the biggest, regular season game for them.

  30. Theres more proof in one text message that nothing was going on then there is in 250+ pages of ted wells imagination that something happened.

    OCT 16 2014 the patriots beat the jets as per usual and tom brady was pissed because the footballs were set to 16 pounds.

    Patriots employee Jastremski texted his finacee this: “Ugh…Tom was right, I just measured some of the balls. They supposed to be 13 lbs… They were like 16. Felt like bricks.”

    And in one simple text message long before this was ever news AND completely ignored by ted wells and the entire NFL front office is the evidence of what T.B. wanted his balls set at, 13 pounds!

  31. Thank GOD Tom Brady and Bill Belichick aren’t Jim Jones, or David koresh or we would really have a tragedy on our hands with all of these Kool aid drinkers.

  32. All these Pats fans that justify breaking the rules are the exact reason we have more accumulated more debt here in the U.S. under one President than all the rest combined. We as a nation justify taking the quickest & easiest route versus doing the work needed to actually honestly succeed, then we all pay for it.

    Why don’t all the Pats fans look at your children’s eyes and say if you just cheat a little, you might win it all. Those morals will doom your family to a horrible future without a chance of success, because they can’t do things the right way.

    All pretty sad actually but to be expected, I think it’s time to take out the trash.

  33. Is that picture Jack Del Rio showing how Elaine was dancing? I can’t tell because I can’t see if his one leg is extended.

  34. The Patriots beat the Seasquawks in the Super Bowl this year. Great game, and Tom Brady picked up his 3rd Super Bowl MVP trophy.

    That’s what I’ll remember from all of this nonsense.

  35. Goodell had his chance to apologize

    Patriots nation decided now it is too late

    Time to make another example out of a patriots energy

    We embarass you and rip your hearts out whenever we feel like it

    #nowyiscantleave

  36. koobyfl says:
    May 17, 2015 7:40 PM
    All these Pats fans that justify breaking the rules are the exact reason we have more accumulated more debt here in the U.S. under one President than all the rest combined. We as a nation justify taking the quickest & easiest route versus doing the work needed to actually honestly succeed, then we all pay for it.

    Why don’t all the Pats fans look at your children’s eyes and say if you just cheat a little, you might win it all. Those morals will doom your family to a horrible future without a chance of success, because they can’t do things the right way.

    All pretty sad actually but to be expected, I think it’s time to take out the trash.

    1 1

    Now you’re equating being a Pat’s fan with being an Obama supporter? My God . Is there no end to the insults the idiots on here are capable of. Pat’s fans don’t think Tom Brady lied but there are lots of us that wouldn’t be willing to say the same for Obama.

  37. this whole thing prove one thing if fans from other teams ban together and cry enough to the league office evidence or not any player or team is at risk of crippling fines , removal of draft pick and suspensions . if you can’t beat a team on the field just to daddy roger!!!

  38. This whole thing about the Patriots fumbling so much less than everybody else doesn’t seem to hold much water. If that was the case it seems like Green Bay would have to lead the league in fumbles because the have they’re footballs over inflated…..hmmmm…or maybe it that they use the short passing game as a sort of running game when they play a tough run defense (no, not you colts). Or maybe yet again if they fumble they get benched?

  39. mccourtyisland says:
    May 17, 2015 8:00 PM

    Goodell had his chance to apologize

    Patriots nation decided now it is too late

    Time to make another example out of a patriots energy

    We embarass you and rip your hearts out whenever we feel like it

    #nowyiscantleave
    //////////////////////////////////////////////
    Patriot Nation???
    You’re just a bunch of Clam eaters with a cheating team, and over inflated egos..
    Remember all those DECADES when the Boston/New England Patriots were the Doormat of the League. It hasn’t been THAT long ago, Cheat to Win… What a Motto to teach your Kids..
    No go rip your OWN Heart out!

  40. From the comments in these blogs it’s obvious that the only thing more ridiculous than a Pats fan is a Pats hater.

  41. The I don’t want to get bludgeoned bandwagon or the please don’t expose us brigade is starting to trickle out

  42. Haha, wow, Pete Carroll is really the last person who should have anything to say about this.

  43. Kind of funny that the coach of the team that’s been irrelevant for over a decade said it’s no big deal while the coach of a current Super Bowl contender supported the punishment, lol.

  44. Pete Carroll’s comments were immediately picked off by Malcolm Butler and those words will go down as the worst call in this event’s history.

  45. There’s an easy fix. Put the matter before an objective body and let the chips fall where they may. If Goodell belieced in the report he would have no problem doing this. If it goes to an objective forum and the Patriots lose they will have to accept the outcome. But if they win can, Goodell withstand the firestorm and will people like you admit you were wrong?

  46. PUNISHMENT: Pete Carroll was fined $100,000 and the Seahawks were fined $200,000 and the team lost two double practices in 2015

    Pete the CHEAT and his cheaty cheat Teams: NUFF Said
    =======

    The seaducks were caught, punished, and didn’t whine about it. The Patriots could learn a thing or 2 here.

    #patriotlogic

    #shutupandtakeresponsibility

  47. ennerut2000 says:
    May 17, 2015 7:20 PM

    Three letters for Pete Carroll.

    P.E.D

    Being bigger and stronger truly is cheating.

    At least he never had a college national title vacated.

    Oh wait……

    Patriot fans are like the Pats. We have the upper hand ..in other words you jealous NFL fans always receive the beat down.

    The Lombardi’s are safe!!!!

    ================

    Good thing the Patriots have never had any PED violations.

    Oh wait……

  48. Only a Patriot fan would post a website with a bunch of examples of other teams getting caught cheating and PUNISHED (keyword: punished) to prove a point about how their team SHOULDN’T be punished

    #delusionalfans

    #CultureofCheating

  49. skawh says:
    May 17, 2015 6:53 PM
    Champions never cheat! That’s no overreaction. Grow some values.
    ———-
    Coming from a Seadderall Seahawks fan??

  50. I think him getting a second HC job was an overreaction.

    49er forever

    That’s pretty funny from a Santa Clara 49er fan who has a coach named Tomsula. Any time I need a good laugh I listen to his press conference when he was introduced.

    I would take Del Rio over that mumbler any day of the week. Good luck Santa Clara….

  51. skolvikes5 says:
    May 17, 2015 8:57 PM

    skawh says:
    May 17, 2015 6:53 PM
    Champions never cheat! That’s no overreaction. Grow some values.
    ———-
    Coming from a Seadderall Seahawks fan??

    =======================

    What would a Vikings fan know about champions?

  52. All of this over half a pound of pressure per square inch that is explained by the Laws of Physics

    An over reaction?

    Nahhhhh

  53. Del Rio doesn’t know what the Hell he’s talking about.

    You can’t compare USC’s situation to the Patriots because the Patriots are multiple offenders; It’s on text message as positive proof.

    In actuality, per the emails of the NCAA investigators, they didn’t have anything on USC but they felt that since the investigation lasted 4 years, they couldn’t go back and say they have nothing or they would lose their jobs.

    In other words, USC never did cheat per the NCAA.
    The Patriots DID cheat..text messages prove it.

  54. patsstinkoftaint says:
    May 17, 2015 8:55 PM

    Only a Patriot fan would post a website with a bunch of examples of other teams getting caught cheating and PUNISHED (keyword: punished) to prove a point about how their team SHOULDN’T be punished

    #delusionalfans

    #CultureofCheating

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    any reasonable patriots fan believes the patriots should have been punished for taking the balls to the bathroom , that is clearly illegal . they shouldn’t be punished by a trash report disputed by a nobel prize winner who concluded there was no air missing from either teams balls , nor should they be punished for texts taken out of context that happened 2 month before the crime was suppose to have occured .
    yourteamcheats.com makes the point if you are going to increase the penalty teams get based on past violations its not going to be very long before every player is suspended , every owner is in the poor house paying off fines , and there is no draft ! the jets for example have 40 violations to the patriots 20 the next time there is a peds , uniform penalty or anything else deemed minor on the jets they should be punished back to the stone age .

  55. charger383 says: May 17, 2015 9:14 PM

    Today’s Patriots remind me of the OLD Raiders

    —-

    Thank you. The old Raiders teams were awesome.

  56. I am sure Tom Shady thought the same thing…

    Hmmmm..If I get caught hatching a plot with the ball boys, I will have idiots like Del Rio to support me.

  57. I like when people say, that the league should have warned the patriots first. Really? You might get the benefit of the doubt and a warning when you’re a first time offender, but the patriots want to be warned first?? Sorry you lost that right with spy gate.

  58. “Nobody wants to play this game thinking that somebody has some kind of advantage, players and fans alike, and so they did the right thing in following up on it,” Carroll said.

    Oh the irony Pete….

  59. bleedsoe9mm says:
    May 17, 2015 9:31 PM

    “any reasonable patriots fan believes the patriots should have been punished for taking the balls to the bathroom….”
    ________________
    You are one of the very, very few I have seen concede that there is some deserved punishment. Allowing that they should only be punished for that which has indisputable video evidence raises the burden of proof to the standard reserved for a criminal investigation, though, which this is not.
    That people claim the text messages were taken out of context because they occurred 2 months prior to the Colts game misses the greater point. Either this has been a concerted effort to tamper with game equipment (likely dating back to the 2007 rule change) or absolutely nothing happened. No reasonable person believes that this only happened during a single game.
    As pointed out by PFT, the nobel prize winner did in fact have a connection to Robert Kraft. Does that by itself invalidate his findings? No. Does that lack of disclosure raise some eyebrows? Yes.
    The failure to fully cooperate (real or perceived) only added to the presumption of guilt. And again, this isn’t a criminal investigation, so the burden of proof is less strict.
    Also adding to the presumption of guilt are some of the responses from the Patriots organization, the most ridiculous of which being the claim that “deflating” referred to losing weight.

    At this point in the game it just looks a heck of a lot more like something was going on than this being some massive league wide conspiracy to bring down the Patriots.

  60. “The Patriots were fined $1 million and lost first… and Brady was suspended four games.”

    Kraft made money on that: Brady makes more than $1 million in four games.

  61. Effort to be undetected was made. The Patriots/Brady knew it was not within the rules and tried to get away with it.

    They should be punished.

  62. I can tell Pats fans never read the report or intentionally exclude things that would kill their arguments or just flat out make stuff up. How many of us have lost a few and referred to it as deflating? What a coincidence. The circus has moved from NJ to NE boys and girls. Or was it always really there anyway?

  63. Its now about the Raiders.

    Jack Del Rio has the right Raider attitude.

    I’m sick of talking about the Patriots cheating.

    When we go in there again in January, is there any doubt that redneck, inbred Walt Coleman will be reffing?

    We’ll stomp them out in the snow again.

    Deflate rule, tuck rule, or not.

    Raiders.

  64. @patsstinkoftaint 1 – its the ideal gas law , not suggestion , law , something the wells report doesn’t even consider . whether the was gas missing is the most important evidence the nfl could have without every thing else has various interpretation .
    the text in question occured after the game where the refs gave them balls that were 16 psi (illegal) and brady torn the equipment staff a new one for it . after tha losing weight he was known as the deflator . but none of this lets the patriots off scott free although it doesn’t raise it to the level minny got punished for concrete proof they tampered . also giving a franchise extra punishment for past transgressions is a very dangerous precedent although there is allot of dirty stuff on the books that go along way back .just have to assume it applies to the entire league not just the patriots .

  65. This entire thing is a joke to begin with. EVERY team cheats… in some way shape or form.

  66. The reason the texts regarding the deflating seem to have occurred 2 months before all of this is because they have been doing it for a long time. They just got caught at this point in time. Case closed. Guilty as charged.

    Legacy tarnished forever!

  67. if Jack Del Rio was the HC of the Raiders when they got totally hosed by the so called “Tuck-Rule” in which Brady clearly fumbled the football in that AFC Championship game …… then he would be singing a different tune. Guaranteed.

  68. imsorryyoufeelthatway7 says:
    May 17, 2015 7:06 PM

    Basically, i juwt want people to shut up about it and let it go away because the fact that anyone cares this much is rediculous.

    —————————

    The only reason this story has legs is because it involves the New England Patriots and Tom Brady.

    Just look at the amount of e-ink this has generated compared with the noisegate and textgate. People hate a perpetual winner and love seeing them torn down.

    Here’s another example – Jerry Rice admits to using stickum and the internet explodes, Jeff Blake admits to deflating footballs on the sidelines (you know, the same thing Brady is being accused of) and all you hear are crickets chirping.

  69. Pats have embarrassed this league for too long and the rest of the owners and coaches hate it. Brady’s drive for 5 is well within reach. Pats fans love it!!!

  70. Totally agree with Del Rio but like most people he is missing the point. The hammer was dropped on the Pats not for some minor silly infraction that many QB’s take part in. It was droped on them because of a history/pattern of cheating followed by obstruction during the investigation. If Brady had simply said hey im sorry i like the balls a little softer from jump there would be no story just a mild punishment. However, he lied and wouldnt cooperate. Also when asked if he was a cheater a response of no would have been far better than “I dont think so”. Game over now Brady and the Pats mishandled the situation from jump. Now shut up and take your lumps!!!!!!!!!!

  71. Del Rio also thought it was an overreaction to put him on the top 10 water hog list every year he was in Jacksonville…

  72. ikeclanton says:
    May 17, 2015 7:56 PM
    The Patriots beat the Seasquawks in the Super Bowl this year. Great game, and Tom Brady picked up his 3rd Super Bowl MVP trophy.

    That’s what I’ll remember from all of this nonsense.
    ——–
    Notice how the Pat’s fan leaves out the part how his team knowingly cheated to get to the SB, and then when caught lied about cheating. And still with all those cheating advantages still nearly, and should have by common sense, lost the game. But the Pat’s fan will ignore the truth, and the facts. Tainted championship much?

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