Offset language could be a snag for Titans, Mariota

AP

Before Marcus Mariota can become the Titans’ franchise quarterback, he’ll need to be officially employed by the franchise. Of the first seven picks in the 2015 draft, Mariota is the only one who remains unsigned.

Per a league source, the two sides intend to start working on his contract tomorrow.

The process, in theory, should be easy; the Buccaneers and quarterback Jameis Winston had a deal in place before the second round of the draft even began. But Winston and his agents willingly caved on the issue of offsets. Mariota may not.

It’s one of the few terms left for the top picks in the draft to negotiate. If the player with a fully-guaranteed deal is cut and signs with another team during the next four seasons, will the team that drafted him get credit for money earned elsewhere, or will the player get to double dip?

So far, only one player taken in top 10 has received a deal without offset language, which allows him to be paid twice. The problem for Mariota and the Titans is that the player without offsets in 2015 was taken one spot after Mariota — Jaguars linebacker Dante Fowler Jr. Last year, quarterback Blake Bortles received the same no-offset deal in the same slot, No. 3 overall.

The question moving forward becomes whether the Titans or Mariota will dig in on either side of the issue. From the perspective of the folks negotiating the contract for the team, the smart play would be to yield on the offset language in order to get the contract finalized quickly. If Mariota ends up being cut within the next four seasons, those responsible for drafting him won’t have to answer tough questions regarding the decision to dump the offset language; they will have already been fired.

48 responses to “Offset language could be a snag for Titans, Mariota

  1. I’ll care 5 years from now… No QB comes into this league ready.. It a different animal

  2. “If Mariota ends up being cut within the next four seasons, those responsible for drafting him won’t have to answer tough questions regarding the decision to dump the offset language; they will have already been fired.” Well said, Mr. Florio.

  3. Why would you spend a top 5 pick on a guy then dig in about offsets. If you drafted him that high, you should be confident he will be with your team for four years. If you’re really that worried about what will happen when you cut him and have to pay him to play somewhere else then you drafted the wrong guy.

  4. Ah, the old offset demand. It’s a player’s agent basically saying “My client potentially is a bust so we’re insisting he gets paid twice for it if he is.”

  5. I’m curious how many top 5, or 10, picks get cut by their team within 4 years. A small recent (last 10 years) would be an interesting read.

  6. It will work out but will Mariota? Already hearing rumblings that he flat out isn’t ready to be an NFL starter but that he will pushed into that role.

  7. Miners don’t reach for busts huh? Remember AJ Jenkins, your first round pick 3 years ago? Of course you don’t; he never caught a pass for the Niners even though he was healthy

  8. “yeevie13 says: May 17, 2015 1:19 PM
    Why would you spend a top 5 pick on a guy then dig in about offsets. If you drafted him that high, you should be confident he will be with your team for four years. If you’re really that worried about what will happen when you cut him and have to pay him to play somewhere else then you drafted the wrong guy.”

    Same reason to draft a pre-nup agreement before getting married. It’s not a question of not believing, but rather looking at the past of other people in similar situations and how they ended, and recognizing that there are several ways for a contract to play out.

  9. Wait a minute. How does Tom Brady feel about this? Or Robert Kraft? Are there cheating implications? And why hasn’t Goodell began an investigation?

  10. Nothing Says we have no faith in you transitioning to a pro offense and become our franchise qb than a team demanding offsets.

    Cheap skunks.

    Way to start off on the right foot tenn. no wonder you’ve sucked for 20 years

  11. Titans management, lol.

    You use these tactics on guys with bad character at less critical positions. Not the guy whose going to be on banners at the front of the stadium, the programs, the tv ads.

    No, you drafted this guy #2, give him everything he needs to succeed, including financial piece of mind. The offset won’t fold your franchise if it doesn’t go your way, and this is the cost of doing business.

    Sometimes, more is lost through indecision than the wrong decision. You’re trying to bring in a new era, that includes culture change. Get it done.

  12. if you are not going to honor the contract, why worry about what happens later? Unless the Titans think that he will somehow finagle himself into getting canned just so he can double dip, what is the big deal?

  13. “I’ll care 5 years from now… No QB comes into this league ready.. It a different animal”

    Since Russell Wilson has had the best three year start of any QB in history, you are wrong.

    Near the end of his rookie year, he was given three plays for each snap and could pick one based on the defense and was allowed to audible to something different if needed. That is the very definition of a NFL-ready QB.

    Smart, hard-working, athletic QB can be very productive and successful their rookie year.

    The problem is that most college QB’s learned how to basically play playground football and have no knowledge of learning a complex playbook, throwing with touch, moving through progressions, reading and properly reacting to defenses.

    Kaepernick falls in that category and after being in the league 4 full seasons he decides to hire private coaches to teach him the basics. Mariota and Winston will need that, hopefully it won’t take 4 years for them to realize it.

  14. God, can you believe the nerve of the Patriots in this. I think Ted Wells should issue a report on the spot and Goodell needs to suspend Pat Patriot and the minutemen 4 weeks.

  15. …I think it more of issue with Titans NOW, because the team will be sold to a new owner within the next 2 years. Thats why the drafted Marriota in the 1st place…he makes the franchise more valuable when it goes up for sale in 2016 or 2017.

  16. Can’t believe I’m saying this, but it looks like TB made the right move…financially, anyway.

  17. All he has to do is look at what is going on with Russell Wilson and try to model his contract in a way where he won’t have too much trouble in 4 years. Wilson at least won one SB so good luck to Mariotta.

  18. Hopefully Mariota works out 4 you guys. I would worry about velcro Orakpo. That guy can’t shed blocks consistently, has 1 move, and is just plain overrated. Not trolling. U guys r gonna see. Not saying personally he’s a bad guy, but as a football player he’s far from elite. In skins country we call him nosakpo.

  19. Carl Gray you are not a Niner fan, Y.A Title and John Brodie did not make your list. Kaep is not even a top Five Niner QB of all time. Quit being a douche and stop your nonsense. Signed, A real Niner Fan

  20. Hold out for everything you deserve Marcus. Do not show up until the Titans cave!

    Signed,

    Zach Mettenberger

  21. The difference between Wilson/Kaep, and Winston/Mariota. The former were drafted to legitimate contenders with established scary defenses, the later not so much, and we haven’t even mentioned the coaching staffs or front office philosophies.

  22. One thing is sure: If Mariota struggles, Whisenhunt will bench him like he did with Matt Leinart, and Kevin Kolb, and John Skelton and who knows how may other QBs. A reason, once again, why I wish Chip Kelly had “mortgaged the future” for Marcus. After three (3) games, Sam Bradford will be injured again, then The Sanchize will take over, and then the Eagles will once again miss out on post-season. History always repeats itself, whether you like it or not.

  23. Stick to your guns! You’d rather not be there anyway, so if they want to have you there make them pay you under your terms…otherwise tell them to stick it!

  24. Sounds more like an agent trying to make a name for himself to me. Since the new NFLPA and NFL agreement for slotted picks / contracts, nearly every 1st round pick has offset language. Personally I think it’s a bunch of baloney. There aren’t too many GM’s that allow high draft picks to be cut in the 1st 3 years. If they do, chances are they too will be looking for work soon after they get fired.

  25. The titans should put in offset language and tell him to sign. If he doesn’t, he doesn’t get paid anything…doesn’t get to sign with another team, etc. Sure, he can re-enter the draft…after a year of not doing anything….

  26. “I’m curious how many top 5, or 10, picks get cut by their team within 4 years. A small recent (last 10 years) would be an interesting read.”

    Not sure, but it looks like 3: Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, and Cedric Benson.

  27. Very supportive comments for the kid. I wonder what this comment section would be like if The other top QB were the one drawing matters out over offsets.

  28. He can’t afford to have this drag into the summer; he needs as much work as he can get. Tenn. wants him in there too, but every day Mett’s out there practicing MM’s leverage dwindles. As for that 5-yr firing window, the Titans’ GM will be fired within 5 yrs regardless. If we can count on anything, we can count on that.

  29. It will be interesting to see if Mariota is signed before camp.

    Tbe Titans have always waited until the week before camp opens before opening serious negotiations with their first round picks….which means they’re always one of the last teams to get their top pick signed, and often leads to the player “holding out”, simply because the club waited until the last possible minute before coming to the negotiating table.

    Maybe things will change now that Bud Adams is gone…but based on the organization’s track record, I wouldn’t expect to see Mariota under contract until late July or early August. Not because he refuses to sign, but because the team won’t make him an offer.

  30. skp613 says:
    May 17, 2015 9:31 PM
    Very supportive comments for the kid. I wonder what this comment section would be like if The other top QB were the one drawing matters out over offsets.
    ===========

    THAT, my friend, is a very interesting point. Not only do I think there were would be 2 to 3 times as many comments, I would bet they would be running 5 to 1 against the player, at least.

  31. They only drafted Mariota to put butts in the seats until they sell the team. Why else would they turn down a package that can improve their team faster than Mariota would? Because the owner only cared about the next two seasons and maxing out ticket revenue for them. Waste of a good player, as the Titans will ruin this kid.

  32. -” maxkingpin says:
    May 17, 2015 1:44 PM
    “yeevie13 says: May 17, 2015 1:19 PM
    Why would you spend a top 5 pick on a guy then dig in about offsets. If you drafted him that high, you should be confident he will be with your team for four years. If you’re really that worried about what will happen when you cut him and have to pay him to play somewhere else then you drafted the wrong guy.”

    Same reason to draft a pre-nup agreement before getting married. It’s not a question of not believing, but rather looking at the past of other people in similar situations and how they ended, and recognizing that there are several ways for a contract to play out. “-
    ………………………………………….

    ROFL.

    Wow, I’m thinking that same argument still applies.

    If you want or feel you need to treat and think of Marriage as a Business Arrangement then you’re just, very simply, marrying the wrong person!

    Sheesh, the sheer Pompousness and Negativity that is consuming and ruling most everyone’s lives at such a rapid speed these days, and that people are allowing themselves to live this way is just So disappointing.

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