Report: EJ Manuel may not make the Bills’ 53-man roster

AP

Forget spending the next three months competing for the Bills’ starting quarterback job. EJ Manuel needs to perform well over the next three months to have any job at all.

That’s the word from Joe Buscaglia of WKBW in Buffalo, who reports that Manuel may be done in Buffalo at the end of training camp. Buscaglia reports that the Bills would cut Manuel if they don’t see “serious progress” this spring and summer.

It seems awfully unlikely that the Bills would cut Manuel just two years after spending a first-round draft pick on him. Manuel’s contract is fully guaranteed, meaning the Bills are going to pay him the $2.8 million they still owe him for the next two years whether he’s on the team or not. In fact, his cap hit for 2015 would actually increase if the Bills cut him this year. And the Bills, who made a lot of expensive moves this offseason, only have about $7 million in cap space left.

For the Bills to cut Manuel, they’d have to conclude not only that he’s not good enough to beat out Matt Cassel to be the starter, but also that he’s not good enough to beat out Tyrod Taylor and Jeff Tuel to be the backups. And they’d have to conclude that Manuel is so bad that they’d rather pay him not to be on the roster at all than pay him to stand on the sideline holding a clipboard. If there’s really a chance of that, Manuel must look even worse behind closed doors than he looks on the field.

94 responses to “Report: EJ Manuel may not make the Bills’ 53-man roster

  1. Absolutely no way this is true. Manuel sucks, sure. But he’s definitely better than Tuel or Taylor and you better believe they’re not going to give a guy 2.8 million and take a cap hit to walk away. If Manuel is going somewhere, they’re getting something for him.

  2. If they cut him, look for the Patriots to immediately pick him up to pick his brain about the Bill’s offensive plans and signals

  3. for every reason that you just stated it’s seriously dumb to think that he’s going to be cut. if they wanted to get rid of him they would have done it before the draft when he actually would have some value as opposed to after losing out to Jeff Tuel. Manuel will be on this roster until next year most likely he will start and surprise a lot of people. every offensive player regressed under MarroneI think you’re going to see a big improvement

  4. The skins need a guy with experience throwing picks as soon as RG3’s ‘brand’ is finally removed from the shelf.

  5. Lolz same old Bills. And of course Rex has such a history of identifying good QBs and developing them.

    Lolz

    ” If Manuel is going somewhere, they’re getting something for him.”

    A bucket of used golf balls and a couple Gatorades ? That’s about all he’s worth at this point.

  6. willycents says:
    May 18, 2015 9:52 AM
    If they cut him, look for the Patriots to immediately pick him up to pick his brain about the Bill’s offensive plans and signals

    This assumes that the Buffalo offense actually has a plan

  7. Philly eager to trade for him.
    Cleveland eager to name him the starter.

    This story is complete bull. Bet the kid does ok with shaddy helping the offense

  8. Keep in mind that this is the same idiot who was on the radio last year saying there were no talks between chandler and the bills not ten minutes later schefter announced the re-signing lol. That radio station is the biggest joke. The idiots in the am are about as knowledgable as a box of rocks

  9. While the Bills spent a first pick on him two years ago, it was a different owner, GM and head coach. While PFT may think it is unlikely that he gets cut, I am not sure why the current leadership would hold a less capable player because of what other folks did in the past. If he can’t make the roster based on merit, the money is burned and you can’t get it back by keeping him on the team.

  10. Amazing how quickly rookies rise and fall. Remember when the Bills beat Chicago in i think week 1 that year and Manuel looked alright.

    I think all rookie QB’s (specially first rounders) should get a minimum of 3 years starting before being declared a bust. In the old days of the 80’s and early 90’s most teams did that.

    Now the second a rookie has a few bad games and the team wants to move on. Elway and other young QB’s back then had some bad moments

  11. There’s no greater mystery in life than how Jeff Tuel is still on the Bills roster.

  12. Tyrod Taylor has taken about 50 snaps in the last 4 years and most of those were runs. If EJ can’t beat him out, he must have gone lame over the Winter. Rex is flamboyant, not stupid.

  13. Not a stretch to say Taylor and Tuel are no worse. Not much o fa stretch to say that at least one of them is better. If Manuel is third best, and I think he is, would you prefer to have your third best QB an undrafted 3rd year guy or a first round pick third year guy whose presence creates unnecessary pressure given that you never want him to play? Do not be surprised if they eat his salary. Frees up cap room next year.

  14. Florida schools haven’t produced a decent NFL quarterback since Jim Kelly.
    _________
    Actually, Bortles looked decent last year and since he came from UCF, and not one of the Florida powerhouses, it’s even better.

  15. Honest to God, If Jeff Tuel and Matt Cassel can beat you out, you should be cut. Cassel is extremely medicore as a thrower. His leadership, charisma and savvy (Media and Field) make him desirable i guess but my gosh.

  16. I love people in Buffalo wrote philly would be interested in trading for him. Their reasoning being “Chip recruited him and said it would of been nice to coach him”. Sanchez as a decent at best back up is better then EJ. Why on gods green earth would they want EJ let alone trade (meaning they give something up) for him. Everyone doesn’t need to link the Eagles to every Qb that can run. Yea he wanted Marcus but outside of that he got rid of Vick, drafted barkley, made foles starter, signed and resigned sanchez, and traded for Bradford. Where does this Eagles NEED a running Qb to survive notion come from?

  17. What do Bills fans do now, even management is finally cutting bait on Manuel.

    In a league desperate for QB’s, he’s as bad as it gets.

  18. There would be no obligation as to future salary if they traded him.
    The only way he gets cut is if he gets drunk and thinks Rex’s new truck is the bathroom, I mean falls flat on his face and can’t complete a single pass.
    All this is pure speculation with nothing to back it up at this point as the competition has yet to begin.

  19. Makes you wonder who is judging the talent in that organization to draft a guy like this in the first place. But there are a lot of organizations that do the same thing. That’s why so many teams never improve. Terrible front office people. Think Tampa will be the next to find out they drafted another dud.

  20. Could see it. It would be different if they had another young QB, and didn’t want the “looking over your shoulder” feeling following him around. But Cassell has been there and done that multiple times. He’s not going to wilt because there is a young high pick on the roster (especially considering it’s a new regime that didn’t pick him in charge now). The other 2 guys will be thrilled just to be on the roster, lol. They aren’t going to worry about who the other backup is

    That being said, it seems odd to me that they are putting out so many reports about how low they look at this kid. I realize it’s hard to keep talking about “upside” when a guy is going into his 3rd year, but i have to think the ceiling for that offense is much higher with Manuel as the QB than it is with Cassell. If I’m running the Bills, I go into camp with Manuel at the depth chart, and see what he can do with the new weapons they have added for him (namely Shady and Harvin). If Cassell beats him out in camp, so be it. But I’d rather give the kid a shot to start at the top and go from there.

  21. Maybe the Bills should have looked at his college tape before they drafted him. If a guy can’t play in college at a high level, why on earth would anyone think he’s going to come into the NFL and play at a high level. Goodness gracious!

  22. Most likely scenario is the reporter is making stuff up. Even if the Bills were planning this – which would be absurd – they wouldn’t leak the story. This isn’t the NFL League Office we’re talking about here.

  23. No. 1 I don’t get this he played OK and had OK numbers. still a young guy.

    Number 2. – having watched Tyrod for four years. He is pretty good. My guess is he will be the starter. Gary Kubiak wanted to take Tyrod with him to Denver which says alot

  24. boswivel says:
    May 18, 2015 9:52 AM
    Florida schools haven’t produced a decent NFL quarterback since Jim Kelly.
    ——
    Testaverde was after Kelly and while not great, he stuck around as a starter for a looooooooonnnnnnggggggg time.

  25. HA – there was an article on here only 3 days ago talking about how he could be the Opening Day starter.

  26. Cant read defenses.Locks on to his first read.Kind of injury prone for a big guy.Whats not to love?

  27. The only way they would cut him rather than make him the backup or 3rd string is if he is a locker room cancer/bad attitude/diva. I have never seen anything that even remotely suggests EJ Manuel is any of those things.

  28. psj3809 says:
    May 18, 2015 10:18 AM
    Amazing how quickly rookies rise and fall. Remember when the Bills beat Chicago in i think week 1 that year and Manuel looked alright.

    I think all rookie QB’s (specially first rounders) should get a minimum of 3 years starting before being declared a bust. In the old days of the 80’s and early 90’s most teams did that.

    ———————————

    Exactly! Manuel has started, what, 14 games? Plenty of QBs who went on to be franchise QBs didn’t look great after 14 games. It’s foolish to give up on a first round pick so quickly. The “first round” part is less important than his actual skill, of course, but you give a firt rounder every chance you can to develop. I don’t think they’ve done that with Manuel.

  29. Jimbo should have benched EJ at FSU. Team lost a couple games every year squarely on his performance. Was shocked he went in the first round. Won’t be shocked if he is cut.

    He’s a great athlete, and a great person. He lights up the room and some people think he’ll be a US Senator some day. But as far as reading defenses and making the split second decisions he just doesn’t have it.

  30. Bortles, Testaverde, yeah. There was Brad Johnson, there was Culpepper. But for such a hotbed of great teams and athletes, it’s a surprising lack of success for state of FL QBs at the next level.

  31. this is the kind of stuff a team leaks to get someone’s attention. Rex lovers playing mind games. My guess is this is one of those.

  32. That people think anyone would want whatever “Bills secrets” are in Manuel’s head is surprisingly sad, like a kid in a snow fort in an empty field waiting for attacks that never come.

  33. This is yet another example of an NFL team pushing a QB out there before he’s ready and simply being too impatient to give the young QB time to develop. To many seemingly talented (and hugely successful) college QBs are given the swift heave-ho before being given a fair amount of time. Imagine if Peyton Manning or John Elway had been sent packing after their less than impressive rookie seasons? Gone are the days of a Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers when a talented young QB is given the backup position to watch and learn under a seasoned veteran before they are thrown into the fire to either sink or swim.

  34. this is an opinion of Joe B’s

    And also an Opinion that Doug Whaley pretty much said last month before the draft…sooooo yeah not much of a report.

  35. The person reporting this (Joe Buscaglia) has been anti-EJ Mauel from the day he was drafted by the Bills as well as while EJ was a Seminole, bad source for a truthful gauge of EJs future, I fully believe EJ will be the starter come opening day and I believe the coaches, players and front office are rooting for him to “win” the starting job..

  36. Yeah, he’s pretty terrible. He has looked lost on the field. Bills have some good components on the field but that QB play has been atrocious. Think of all the impact players they could have had instead of EJ. yikes.

  37. This “Story” is complete BS… EJ Manuel will be the Bills day 1 starter.

    First, Manuel IS better than every QB on the Buffalo roster… hands down better. Compare his first year stats with another well known Franchise QB in the league:

    Rookie years:

    2009- Matt Stafford 10 games started: Record(2-8)
    201/377 53.3% 2267 Yards Passing, 6.0y/a, 13td’s, 20int’s, sacked 24 times, 108yds rushing 2td’s

    2013- EJ Manuel 10 games started: Record (4-6)
    180/306 58.8% 1972 Yards Passing, 6.4y/a, 11td’s, 9int’s
    sacked 28 times, 186 yards rushing, 2td’s

    If Stafford was statistically worse than Manuel in the same amount of games, with basically the same Offensive line and even more weapons on Offense… How can Manuel be considered a bust?

    Answer: HE CAN’T!!!!

  38. iloveagoodnap says:
    May 18, 2015 9:50 AM

    Absolutely no way this is true. Manuel sucks, sure. But he’s definitely better than Tuel or Taylor and you better believe they’re not going to give a guy 2.8 million and take a cap hit to walk away. If Manuel is going somewhere, they’re getting something for him.
    ———————————————-

    Look at the offseason acquisitions, draft, etc…this team is being put together by Rex Ryan. Insert joke here, but the guy isn’t gun shy. Rex wanted Tyrod Taylor, and it won’t be surprising to see him as the starting QB week one.

  39. Drew Brees 14 games 269-440 61% 2783 13-14
    E.J. Manuel 14 games 256-437 59% 2810 16-12

    The fans and media want to compare a 2yr QB to a 14 year veterans and declare them a bust after one bad game.

  40. EJ says:
    May 18, 2015 12:42 PM

    This “Story” is complete BS… EJ Manuel will be the Bills day 1 starter.

    First, Manuel IS better than every QB on the Buffalo roster… hands down better. Compare his first year stats with another well known Franchise QB in the league:

    Rookie years:

    2009- Matt Stafford 10 games started: Record(2-8)
    201/377 53.3% 2267 Yards Passing, 6.0y/a, 13td’s, 20int’s, sacked 24 times, 108yds rushing 2td’s

    2013- EJ Manuel 10 games started: Record (4-6)
    180/306 58.8% 1972 Yards Passing, 6.4y/a, 11td’s, 9int’s
    sacked 28 times, 186 yards rushing, 2td’s

    If Stafford was statistically worse than Manuel in the same amount of games, with basically the same Offensive line and even more weapons on Offense… How can Manuel be considered a bust?
    ———————————————-

    Stats mean nothing. EJ doesn’t pass the eyeball test. He had one good game against the panthers, all the rest, mediocre. EJ locks onto primary receivers, doesn’t read defenses to identify weaknesses, is generally slow to make decisions, and has a byron leftwich like long throwing motion, but unlike him, EJ lacks the accuracy or the gunslinger mentality.

  41. Buffalo will run the ball all day long and play tough defense.Problem is you cant win in this league without a franchise QB.

    Signed,
    Bill Belicheat

  42. jimbo75025 says: May 18, 2015 11:23 AM

    boswivel says:
    May 18, 2015 9:52 AM
    Florida schools haven’t produced a decent NFL quarterback since Jim Kelly.
    ——
    Testaverde was after Kelly and while not great, he stuck around as a starter for a looooooooonnnnnnggggggg time.

    —–

    Don’t forget Bernie!

  43. bearclaw69 says:
    May 18, 2015 12:37 PM

    Bet his Wonderlic score was in the Vince Young area.

    Manuel scored a 28 on the Wonderlic which is the same score as; Peyton, Brees, and Russell.

  44. Duh!!!..might as well lump Geno Smith into the same catergory of not making the team for the Jets..

  45. folks, it’s May. the new administration in buffalo is simply lighting a fire under the guy. okay maybe if he doesn’t progress quickly enough or doesn’t acclimate to the new system they *might* try to trade him. But he is NOT getting cut.

  46. It’ another example of the lack of QB’s in a draft and teams pick them high because they are afraid someone else may take them. Could have drafted him later and saved a first round bust.

  47. bearclaw69 says:
    May 18, 2015 12:37 PM

    Bet his Wonderlic score was in the Vince Young area.

    ———-

    Why would you say this? Are you viewing him through the muddy windshield of your 1984 F-150? Manuel graduated in 3 years and started his masters while still at FSU.

  48. Trade him to the Pats.

    Belichick just has to make a few adjustments to his ethics and he’ll be like a new QB.

  49. Bills drafted Manuel only because Geno blew them off in private interviews. We have seen flashes of brilliance from Geno — I was convinced for an entire first half that Geno/Jets were going to beat Rodgers/Packers — but then the collapse happened. Geno must learn to play with more consistency and hopefully Brandon Marshall and Devin Smith, who has an aura of “D-Jax” in him, can help Geno improve onward. Manuel seems to be a “character” guy (an anti-Winston, if you will, like Marcus Mariota) — but Manuel just never truly seemed “NFL-ready” from the get-go.

  50. This isn’t happening.

    The only way it would is if the Bills would see some sort of cap savings from it.

    There is no way that Jeff Teul and/or Tyrod Taylor are so much better than Manuel that they would absorb a multi-million dollar cap hit to keep either one of them over him.

  51. It’s so funny how many comments there are on here saying how “dumb” Manuel is when he had the same wonderlic score as Peyton Manning, graduated from FSU in three years and was working on his Masters.

    What did Louis CK call that during his SNL monologue this past weekend? “Mildly Racist”?

  52. Manuel sh/be the starter up there. As a rookie, I had seen him play poorly and I had seen him play well. It’s what you would expect at that stage. He’d be playing well in most games by now if they had stuck with him, and it wouldn’t be long until playing well was the norm for him. Buffalo has no idea how to bring a QB along. He needs to be cut so he can start for some poor team with a management change.

  53. Jim Kelly said he is a great leader with talent to lead Buffalo. So if he has the Buffalo Bills greatest player ever endorsing him then I am all in. If I know anything it is this. Kelly would never endorse someone who he thought would not help Bills succeed. So after watching Kelly in interview Manuel is r man. This guy played on a broken leg (left femur) in college so we know he is tough enough for Buffalo. Kelly specifically speaks very highly of his leadership abilities. If we as Bills fans ever trusted anyone (coaches, gms etc…) Kelly is the one person Who I would trust. PLus he is Hall of Fame QB so maybe he is helping with EJ’s progress. Would not surprise me. Kelly has always been to the Bills what Elway was to Denver. We have a coach who will not hinder his progress like previous regime. Super Bowl L here we come. I still think we should push for trade of Kaepernick who is on trading block rumor has it. R OC might help with that.

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