Mike Wallace: Vikings offense “more what I’m accustomed to”

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Wide receiver Mike Wallace caught just 12 passes of 20 or more yards over two season with the Dolphins, which wasn’t what most people expected after he averaged 11 such plays a season in his four years with the Steelers.

That inability to make plays down the field made for a sour relationship between Wallace and the team at various points during his stay in Miami and it helped make Wallace a Viking earlier this offseason. On Thursday, Wallace said that he’s finding things more to his liking in Norv Turner’s offense.

“I think it’s more so [like] my first four years,” Wallace said, via ESPN.com. “It’s a vertical offense, [rather] than a short, West Coast offense. You go down the field a lot more here, more what I’m accustomed to.”

Wallace and quarterback Teddy Bridgewater have been spending extra time together at practice to sharpen their chemistry, something that never developed with Ryan Tannehill the way the Dolphins hoped it would. All of that paints a promising picture for Wallace in 2015, but we’ll have to wait until the fall to see if it is any more grounded in reality than the optimism that accompanied Wallace to Miami in the first place.

72 responses to “Mike Wallace: Vikings offense “more what I’m accustomed to”

  1. Never forget!!!

    Teddy Bridgewater
    2014 GP: 13 TD’s Pass: 14 INT: 12 TD Rush: 1 Playoff wins: 0
    Tim Tebow
    2011 GP: 14 TD’s Pass: 12 INT: 6 TD Rush: 6 Playoff Wins: 1

  2. Hey Mike, that stench you smell is the burning of every other WR jersey who left here after we wasted their prime years (Carter, Moss, Jennings, Harvin…)

    Your short stay here will prove no different.

  3. philyeagles5 says:
    May 28, 2015 2:47 PM

    Translation: Bridgewater can actually throw deep.
    ——————————————-
    He can but let’s wait and see what happens. Last year Teddy ended the season well throwing the ball deeper than he did at the beginning. Hopefully he continues that but it all remains to be seen. I have high hopes.

  4. Actual translation: Turner only expects me to run a 9 route, which is the only route I have in my tree.

  5. Nobody is Mike, it’s the Viking they are historically the worst team in the NFL!

    How can anyone be accustomed to playing for a team that always chokes, has Zero Championships and the most ridiculous fan base in the world?

  6. Bridgewater had a lot of terrible deep throws last year but he put together some good ones towards the end of the season. Hopefully that continues into next year.

  7. Wallace had his YPC drop significantly his last year in Pittsburgh. Then in Miami, he proved to continue that by dropping a ton of passes.

    Don’t blame the Dolphins offense for your many drops on deep passes.

    Philbin was the O-coordinator for the Packers running the same offense. I don’t think ANYONE would say that the offense isn’t a strong vertical one. But you have to actually catch the ball. Wallace couldn’t catch a cold, especially perfectly thrown deep passes.

    I still can’t believe the Vikings foolishly agreed to pick up his ridiculous contract in a trade. I guess that’s why they are the Vikings.

  8. It’s hard for anyone to be accustomed to a bust QB with the smallest hands in the league. Williams you will soon realize there is no real worth in becoming acclimated to the horrible losing 4th place team that is the Viking’s! Worst team in the NFCN and possibly the whole league!

  9. Adding Wallace while having Peterson in the backfield (I know, I like and hate it at the same time) is scary for defenses. Agree or not, like it or not, its a fact.

  10. Wallace had 21 catches over 20 yards the last two years, not 12. Look it up. He had only 9 his last year in Pitt. So much for that argument. He’s not fooling anyone out there with his routes and he has a terribly small catch radius. Still, he battled for contested balls on other routes last year and scored 10 TDs. That’s decent production.

  11. “And the Packers still choke with one and done every time.”
    —————–

    Please explain how you can make it to the NFCCG in a one and done scenario?

    And BTW…..your miserable team doesn’t even get that opportunity to be one and done since it is always watching from the couch.

    The last time they did make it to the playoffs….they went “one and done” TO THE GREEN BAY PACKERS.

    SkoLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  12. Adding Wallace while having Peterson in the backfield (I know, I like and hate it at the same time) is scary for defenses. Agree or not, like it or not, its a fact.
    ———————————

    So you are saying that by having a bust of a wide receiver and and an over the hill, over paid running back that doesn’t want to be there, and plans on mailing it in, is scary for the apposing defenses?

    Huh….

  13. One and Done? Let’s take a look at the last 5 years.

    Packers
    2010- 3 playoff wins. SB Champion
    2011- Lost 1st round
    2012- Beat Vikings in playoffs
    2013- Lost 1st round
    2014- Won 2 playoff games

    Vikings
    2012- 1 and done. Lost to Packers.

    Looks to me like the Vikings in the playoffs is an anomaly. But when they do actually make it……. ONE AND DONE!

  14. Couple things here. Wallace flat out dropped or failed to even attempt a catch on at least twice as many deep balls than he caught. I am talking catchable balls here not bad misses. The second point is about Wallace putting in extra time with Bridgewater–Tannehill tried to do that with Wallace but Wallace rarely did it.

    The chemistry between Wallace and Tannehill was bad but much of that was on Wallace. Many of his deep balls in Pittsburgh were on broken plays/big Ben scrambles. That is not something Miami did. Those opportunities never developed because of sacks or the QB running or throwing it away. Wallace can be a talented receiver but he will never be a true #1. He runs sloppy routes, has a very small catch radius, rarely fights for the ball, cannot adequately adjust his routes/track the ball and varies the speed of his routes too much for any kind of timing play to be successful.

    If Bridgewater has time to see where Wallace is and then throw the ball, they can be successful. If they try to rely on Wallace to be at a specific place at a particular time, Vikings fans are going to be very frustrated.

  15. That’s because he is a one trick pony. Can’t run routes worth a damn. Now everyone sees why the Steelers let him go and paid Brown.

  16. I’m not sure what they are doing in Minnesota but it seems to the outside observer that they have the same type of WR in both Wallace and Patterson; ie, nitwits who can’t run any routes that don’t involve running straight down the field as fast as they can. What value is there in that when the QB throws 80% of his balls less than 5 yards downfield? Hence the nickname, Check Down Teddy.

    The the one possession WR that they did have (Craig Jennings) is sent packing because he was making $10 mil a year which is actually $3 million less than they are paying a RB who doesn’t even want to be there. If you think all of this doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, you would be right, and welcome to your 2015 Vikings.

  17. Mike Wallace: Vikings offense “more what I’m accustomed to”

    Translation:

    Every play will be the same. “ok Mikey, you are the bottlecap here. You go long, past the red car and I will throw it to you.”

    If not, then I will put on a “not-so-happy” face

  18. “Sorry bro….REAL HISTORY shows the Vikings have the 4th best winning percentage in NFL HISTORY.”
    —————

    And yet they also have the most playoff losses in NFL HISTORY.

    And they also have the most Super Bowl losses in NFL HISTORY.

    To summarize: They are the biggest chokers in NFL HISTORY!

  19. avikesfan says:
    May 28, 2015 3:14 PM

    Cannot wait to watch the Vikes smoke your teams, trolls.
    —————–
    You will need to be patient. Very patient.

  20. “Sorry bro….REAL HISTORY shows the Vikings have the 4th best winning percentage in NFL HISTORY.”
    —————–

    One more thing. YOU LIED!!!

    Dallas
    Chicago
    Green Bay
    Miami
    San Fran
    Baltimore
    New York Giants
    New England Patriots
    Minnesota Vikings (This is 9th…not 4th)

    SkoLOLOLOLOL

  21. With Zimmer the man in charge Packers fans are going to cry like new born babies, telling McCarthy to get out out of Green bay before something happens to him.

  22. “With Zimmer the man in charge Packers fans are going to cry like new born babies, telling McCarthy to get out out of Green bay before something happens to him.”

    ———————

    Yes. We were all crying like babies when the Packers swept Zimmer and his 7-9 Vikings on the way to the NFCCG while Zimmer sat at home and watched from his couch.

    Only in SkoLOLOLOLLAND!!

  23. Hey, Vikings fans! Do you want to read some FACTS about the REAL situation in Miami?

    Jeff Ireland is the worst general manager in Dolphins history, period. He made MANY mistakes while in Miami and one of them was signing Mike Wallace to a huge contract. Why? It’s because Ireland drafted a “quarterback” that can NOT throw accurate deep passes and that is pretty much all Wallace is good for. Yes, he is a one-trick pony.

    Having posted that, Wallace is GREAT at that one trick! He doesn’t catch the ball well with his hands but man, he burns DB’s often and he would have had 20 TD’s a season in Miami IF they had a decent QB who could get him the ball.

    I am a Dolphins fan and have watched every pass that Tannehill has thrown as a pro. He is not good. He couldn’t hit his #1 receiver on deep routes in 2012, which was Brian Hartline, and he was WIDE OPEN on many occasions. Then when Wallace came to town the problem was totally exposed because Wallace got open more often then Hartline and it was clear that Tannehill lacked the touch that it takes to make that throw.

    Bitter Dolphins fans will “try” and blame Wallace but they are just Tannehill fans living in denial. Yes, Wallace doesn’t come back and fight for the ball and he has issues catching the ball with his hands, but he does get open deep all day long and WILL be putting points up for the Vikings in 2015. Tannehill under-threw Wallace on most deep passes but when he wasn’t throwing short, he would sail the ball over his head. Tannehill does not go through his progressions, he does NOT sense pressure, he can’t throw the ball accurately on deep routes, most of his short passes are thrown behind his receivers and not in stride, so basically what I am saying is that he is not a good quarterback.

    Look for Bridgewater’s numbers to skyrocket because he CAN throw the deep pass and will connect with Wallace on at least 12 touchdowns this year, with about 1,150 plus yards.

  24. whatjusthapped says:
    May 28, 2015 3:24 PM

    I’m not sure what they are doing in Minnesota but it seems to the outside observer that they have the same type of WR in both Wallace and Patterson; ie, nitwits…
    //////////////////////////////////////////////

    Vikes have WR’s Charles Johnson and Jarius Wright as well, 2 very serviceable players. Add in TE’s and the Vikes have a “above avg” receiving corp IMO.
    Yes, Patterson has sucked (we have high expectations don’t we?) But he was a very raw receiver coming in and in 2 yrs has had 2 diff coaches and schemes. He had a hip injury last year as well. Patterson will have to make his case this year.
    Wallace played the Vikes last year, saw him fight a DB for a ball and score, don’t really know that much about him but he can catch and he has speed and fight in his play.
    Teddy has a lot of weapons regardless of who performs because there’s depth after those I mentioned.

  25. ObjectiveNFLFan says:

    One more thing. YOU LIED!!!

    Dallas
    Chicago
    Green Bay
    Miami
    San Fran
    Baltimore
    New York Giants
    New England Patriots
    Minnesota Vikings (This is 9th…not 4th)

    —-

    Once again the Packers stats are screwed by all those games they won with 4 teams in the league. Since the merger:

    Vikings: 376 wins, 299 losses, 55.7%
    Packers: 352 wins, 319 losses, 52.5%
    Bears: 335 wins, 335 losses, 50%
    Lions: 265 wins, 390 losses, 40.5%

    Divisions championships:
    Vikings: 16
    Packers: 13
    Bears: 10
    Lions: 3

    You had a good run, Green Bay. Won a championship and lost a bunch of playoff games because of inept coaching and a terrible GM. It’ll be sad to look back on a great QB and wonder how he only made it to one super bowl but look no further than that: inept coaching, GM who refused to put a respectable defense on the field and he couldn’t carry the weight of the scrubs around him every year.

    The Vikings dominance of the NFCN returns in 2015. Thems the facts.

  26. Since the merger:

    Vikings: 376 wins, 299 losses, 55.7%
    Packers: 352 wins, 319 losses, 52.5%
    Bears: 335 wins, 335 losses, 50%
    Lions: 265 wins, 390 losses, 40.5%
    ——————————–

    Since the merger??? SkoLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    There was never 4 teams in the NFL. EVER.

    And you might want to understand what a win% is. Whether there is 8, 15 or 32 teams in a league, the number of teams has no impact on win%.

  27. “GM who refused to put a respectable defense on the field and he couldn’t carry the weight of the scrubs around him every year.”
    ————–

    You do realize that the Vikings were ranked 19th in Total Defense last year. Guess what the Packers were? 18th.

    So your terrible GM couldn’t field a respectable defense to go along with the Vikings horrible offense.

    SkoLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    PS. When you have a future HOF QB at the helm, the worst you’ll ever do is have 1 losing season out of 10. Maybe.

    The Vikings have no WR’s, no QB, no RB. a horrible O-line. And a defense that was 19th last year.

    Yeah, I can see why you are so excited for 2015!!!

  28. pftknowitall says:
    May 28, 2015 3:21 PM

    Sorry bro….REAL HISTORY shows the Vikings have the 4th best winning percentage in NFL HISTORY.
    *********************************************

    Translation: Regular season Champs:)
    Post season Chumps 🙁

  29. “Mason Crosby : 18 Yd Field Goal “more what I’m accustomed to”
    ———————————-
    Just another Vikings fan who has no clue what he’s talking about.

    Crosby was 4th in attempts greater than 50+ in 2014
    Crosby was 5th in attempts greater than 50+ in 2013
    Crosby was 3rd in attempts greater than 50+ in 2012

    Try again?

  30. Wallace will be fine, Bridgewater will be fine, the Vikings have a good young team and anyone who can’t see that is just being silly. I agree with what some people were saying about Wallace and his attitude but I’ll wait and see how he does before I down him for whatever he did in Miami. 10 TD’s is pretty good no matter ow you slice it so he must have some value. Last I checked no team in the North has great corners especially GB( Shields and Heyward/Randall=straight garbage) so he could end up with some decent numbers just based on divisional games.

  31. 2015 NFCN Spoiler Alert:

    Vikings 11-5
    Packers 10-6
    Lions 7-9
    Bears 5-11

    You saw it here first.
    —————-

    Saw it here first? I agree if it was 3 years ago when you posted it the first time and every year since. Are you going to claim the 5th straight offseason championship as well?

  32. The 2014 Minnesota Vikings

    0-7 against teams .500 or better.

    1-5 against the NFC North.
    Congrats on your win against Chicago, by the way.

    Looking forward to 2015.

  33. Last I checked no team in the North has great corners especially GB( Shields and Heyward/Randall=straight garbage)
    ——————
    Shields is the best CB in the NFCN right now, so that is just stupid. And you know absolutely nothing about Hayward or Randall for that matter. Hayward took 3rd in DROY voting. Missed most of the next season with an injury and was behind Tramon Williams (now departed), so he is elevated from a nickel CB to a starter unless he is beat out by one of the rookies. To say he is garbage is just stupid. And to say a rookie you have never seen play is garbage is….well….being a Vikings fan.

  34. Rhodes and Slay are both better than Shields, saw Randall in college as a safety, Heyward only ever played nickel in the slot, not outside, and is average at best, I’ll give you that. As I said the Packers secondary=garbage.

  35. What he’s more accustomed to?

    Crap Route Running and zero hands?

    lol… He’ll fit right in with that massive draft bust Patterson.

  36. I read and read and it finally showed up… The dumb “One Trick Pony” comment. The problem is that it now kinda true.. It is Being Lazy!

    @FinFan68. Great comment, exactly on point. Some watch football and others study the game and details within plays. Most on here just Troll with bravado while anonymous. Very few really understand the game. Wallace will do better in MN, but will never match his Steeler days because Big Ben makes the WRs. In Miami, he was a possesion guy and productive. I hope the Vikings fans get the long ball from him. My bet is he will have more 20 yders, but less TDs and overall stats. This will make him pout, sulk on the sidelines and disrupt team chemistry. Good Luck with the Cancer.

  37. “Rhodes and Slay are both better than Shields, saw Randall in college as a safety”

    SKOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

    Rhodes sucks. Slay isn’t much better so far. Randall was their best defensive back who played very well. He was a corner playing safety in 0 coverage because he was their best defensive back and they wanted him to command the defense.

  38. If you go to NFL.com and look at their ratings It has Top shelf with the top 8 NFL CB’s. Then their next level has Shields. Rhodes and Slay are nowhere to be found.

    In fact….if you scroll down even further under “struggling” you find Slay.

    There isn’t a ranking by any website or pro football focus that doesn’t have Shields as better than both.

    Sorry!

  39. ObjectiveNFLFan says:
    May 28, 2015 4:17 PM

    You do realize that the Vikings were ranked 19th in Total Defense last year. Guess what the Packers were? 18th.
    ________

    I know I’m just another Viking fan who doesn’t know anything, but why do I have to keep explaining to you that, when ranking defenses, fewer yards given up is better? The Vikings were 14th, the Packers were 15th.

  40. Never forget!!!

    Aaron Rodgers
    2005 GP: 3 TD’s Pass: 0 INT: 1 TD Rush: 0 Playoff wins: 0
    Tim Tebow
    2011 GP: 14 TD’s Pass: 12 INT: 6 TD Rush: 6 Playoff Wins: 1

  41. yeah, whatever Mike. you werent getting thrown deep balls so you quit on your teammates like a little b*tch. your “blazing speed” is a myth. for two years i watched this clown get chased down from behind over and over by average DB’s. have fun Minnesota. better throw the ball to him every other play or he will quit on you and go sit on the bench.

  42. What Vikings fans should become “accustomed to” is Wallace pouting and quitting on routes once he feels the ball isn’t being thrown to him enough.
    Here’s a guy who is the epitome of the term “prima donna.”

  43. bizzmoneyb says:
    May 29, 2015 3:33 AM

    yeah, whatever Mike. you werent getting thrown deep balls so you quit on your teammates like a little b*tch. your “blazing speed” is a myth. for two years i watched this clown get chased down from behind over and over by average DB’s. have fun Minnesota. better throw the ball to him every other play or he will quit on you and go sit on the bench.

    _____________________________________

    Wallace’s blazing speed is NOT a myth. I watched every single Dolphins game that he played in and the guy was WIDE OPEN on countless plays, but Tannehill could NOT connect with him. Tannehill doesn’t lack arm strength, he lacks the talent to be able to throw those kind of touch passes. THAT is why Tannehill underthrows to his receivers on most of those deep passes. Defensive Back’s didn’t chase Wallace down from behind, now THAT is a myth! Tannehill could never hit Wallace IN STRIDE on deep routes, so Wallace was FORCED to always come back to the underthrown ball. So, IF DB’s caught him from behind it wasn’t because of ‘speed’, it was because of a terribly thrown ball.

    I am NOT a fan of Mike Wallace. I thought Ireland blew it with this signing. He doesn’t catch the ball with his hands, he relies on trapping the ball against his body. He also doesn’t fight for the ball. What Wallace does do is get open and he gets open often. He did have more success in Pittsburgh because of Big Ben’s ability to escape pressure and extend plays, something Tannehill will never be able to do. I think Bridgewater, in time, will be able to do this, too. I don’t think he will be as good as Big Ben at this because I think Teddy will end up running the ball rather than slinging it deep to Wallace like Big Ben did.

    Wallace has elite speed but unfortunately that speed was wasted in Miami due to the FACT that their quarterback lacks the talent to throw those type of passes accurately. Bridgewater should have a pretty good season throwing to Patterson and Wallace. They might need to go out and sign a running back though. “Somebody” is pretending they are the victim when in reality they should be behind bars.

  44. dolphinsfreak, Wallace does have good speed but he does not use it effectively. Yes, Tannehill did “underthrow” Wallace several times but it has absolutely nothing to do with touch or arm strength. Don’t just watch the end of the play and conclude that Tannehill underthrew the ball. Watch the whole play and you will see why. Wallace baits the CBs in close and then kicks in that extra gear to blow past them and gain separation. The ball looks underthrown because it is usually thrown while Wallace is running 3/4 speed (which is the speed Tannehill is using to gauge where to throw the ball) and then Wallace speeds up and runs deeper than the throw and then has to slow down to come back for it. It was a chemistry issue, not a QB/WR talent issue. I think you will be surprised when Tannehill makes some plays down the field this year. You are grossly underestimating his ability.

  45. FinFan68, I think you are mistaken. I watched Tannehill underthrow Brian Hartline during the 2012 season, all season long, when Hartline was their primary receiver. Some things have to do with chemistry but unfortunately for Tannehill, that is NOT his problem. He has issues throwing to everybody! Tannehill can’t hit anybody in stride. He underthrows everybody on deep passes, not just Wallace. I have every game recorded on my DVR and have watched every game more then once, studying each play like I was getting paid to do so. I know what Tannehill’s strengths and weaknesses are and he has WAY too many weaknesses. He doesn’t go through his progressions. He locks on to the primary receiver. He has absolutely no sense of presence and/or pocket awareness. He constantly throws behind his receivers. He constantly underthrows his receivers on deep routes. He constantly throws the ball into the line of scrimmage. He is not a good leader. Ryan Tannehill is not a good quarterback. No team should have to go out and replace an entire receiving corps to “TRY” and find players that work to the so-called strengths of the QB, when most people know that you are finding players that help with his WEAKNESSES. Tannehill has to play inside a 20 yard box and it will be easy to scheme against if your QB can’t hit his receivers in stride.

  46. I am not saying there isn’t a need for improvement. I am just saying the chemistry wasn’t there with Wallace. There was little trust there and Tannehill’s deep ball numbers are much worse with him. The numbers are league average to other receivers and the group he has now will contest balls in the air and even snag a few that are off target. He definitely needs to fix the awareness issue but I think the deep ball stuff is overblown. We’ll see after this year. I would expect better numbers in yards per attempt 3rd downs and red zone. I bet his INTs go up a bit though but so will TDs. Tannehill is not great but he is quite capable and a much better option than many teams have at QB.

  47. The chemistry between Tannehill and Wallace was not there, we can agree on that. However, what about the chemistry between Tannehill and Hartline? In 2012 Tannehill made the same arrant throws to Hartline that he did to Wallace on the deep routes. Two different receivers, two different speeds, two different ways of running routes, but had the same result. It’s Tannehill, not the receivers.

    In my opinion the Dolphins season hinges on the quarterback because Tannehill is in a make or break season, regardless of his new contract. The front office went out and got him some nice weapons who “should” help him improve in every facet of the game. His first few years have been full of excuses, it’s time for him to step up and prove all his doubters wrong, including me. I hope he does prove me wrong and he becomes a true franchise quarterback. Unfortunately, I don’t think he is going to do that. I can see more of the same with him. He will not go through him progressions, he will lock on to the primary receiver, he will take sacks because he has no pocket presence and adding to the misery will be the fact that Philbin felt that the guards he had on the roster were good enough. They are not. Not addressing the glaring needs at guard and at the cornerback position will cost a bunch of coaches their jobs at the end of this season. 7-9 here we come…………

    The Vikings will have a better record then the Dolphins IF they get AP back or if they find a running back who isn’t ‘pretending’ to be the victim in a case where he is clearly the criminal. Sorry, AP, that back channel deal you had with the Cowboys is going to have to be put on the back burner for now, you are stuck with the Vikings.

  48. dolphinsfreak, the reason we had to replace our WR corps is because Brian Hartline was ALWAYS an average receiver who couldn’t get in the red zone or get any YAC. His longevity was a result of our patience, not talent. Wallace was a bad scheme fit who had the smallest catching radius I’ve ever seen. Gibson was a FA pickup who got injured, and average also. Rishard Matthews is still here but not going to see much playing time because he’s average also, and couldn’t beat our Gibson anyway.

    Jennings was a receiver who I thought we should have ALWAYS picked up, I wanted him instead of Wallace. We’ve got Landry – perfect scheme fit, great catch radius, tough, and full of production and potential. Parker is another great addition. We’re building the receiver corp we should have had all along. Now it’s up to Tannehill.

    as far as Wallace….to whatever teams he goes to, I’ll just say that he’s fast, he can draw coverage and blow the top off of defenses…and a great luxury pick to have in ADDITION to other great receivers on your team. Wallace doesn’t replace a #1 WR. And I agree with other commenters that Big Ben used Wallace in a way most other QB’s in this league cannot. Wallace would probably be good working with someone like Jaemis Winston, not Bridgewater.

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