Randall Cobb: It will be hard to top what I did last year

AP

At this time last year, Packers wide receiver Randall Cobb was entering the final year of his contract and worried that one bad break could leave him rehabbing a serious injury rather than signing a long-term deal.

Those concerns don’t exist this year. Cobb signed a four-year deal to remain in Green Bay after catching 91 passes for 1,287 yards and 12 touchdowns for the NFC North champs. That lifts expectations about what the future will bring for Cobb, but while he thinks no one can “set expectations higher than my own” Cobb also thinks it will be tough for him to put up the same numbers.

“Davante [Adams] coming along, that adds a target, and he’s going to get more targets,” Cobb said, via the team’s website. “I look forward to this receiving corps. We’ve got a great offense, a lot of weapons. It’s going to be hard to top what I did last year.”

That might not wind up being a bad thing for the Packers, however. Cobb, Adams and Jordy Nelson all return from last year and the team hopes that Jeff Janis, Jared Abbrederis and 2015 third-rounder Ty Montgomery can be contributors in the offense as well. If Adams takes an expected step forward in his second season and the latter trio impresses, an already good offense will have an embarrassment of riches for Aaron Rodgers to work with.

105 responses to “Randall Cobb: It will be hard to top what I did last year

  1. Pack may end up keeping 6 WRs this year, since Montgomery will be used mostly as a returner. Abbrederis and Janis would both make most other rosters around the league, often as a #3 guy.

  2. That’s the last thing I’d want to hear from one of my players. “Hard”? Nobody said it was going to be easy. Everybody should be trying to top last years performance. All it takes is a lot of “hard” work.

  3. He probably realizes now that Rodgers is a known and admitted cheater the Referees will be more vigilant in ensuring the balls are kept at the regulation PSI and thus Rodgers will be lucky to break 60 QBR.

    #DiscountDoubleCheat

  4. Judging that my Vikings have never played more than 16 games in a season yeah it will be impossible to ever win a championship!!

  5. 20 mil a year between him and jordy…they’re really good and worth the money, but thats gotta pull from other positions especially with Rodgers contract. Good luck.

  6. God I love to beat the Vikings. It feels sooooo good. They really like our leftovers and rejects, don’t they? But I don’t hate da Bears. Their fans have suffered enough.

  7. Respect from Day 1 for this guy. He plays hard, plays intelligently and has the talent to make it look easy. I’d have stayed with ARodge too.
    Stay healthy!

  8. longtimefanhtr says:
    Jun 5, 2015 4:08 PM
    cue the Viking trolls in 3, 2, 1…
    —-
    First post of the thread and its someone worried about the Vikings. It seems the Vikings are making lots of team worry so I am not surprised.

    Thanks for acknowledging.

  9. brinmilwaukee says:
    Jun 5, 2015 4:59 PM
    God I love to beat the Vikings. It feels sooooo good. They really like our leftovers and rejects, don’t they? But I don’t hate da Bears. Their fans have suffered enough.
    ——

    You mean like Letroy Guion? Oh BTW, nice to see that you guys love Brett “wristwatch” Favre again after your fanbase went rabid and burned his memorabilia in 2009.

  10. ” ………. after catching 91 passes for 1,287 yards and 12 touchdowns for the NFC North champs. ”

    “NFC North champs.”

    That has a nice ring to it.

    But the only “ring” that counts is the one you get after winning the Big Game.

  11. First post of the thread and its someone worried about the Vikings. It seems the Vikings are making lots of team worry so I am not surprised.

    Thanks for acknowledging.
    //////////////////////////////////////////

    because it always happens. Check out the comments above from Viking fans.

  12. Pathetic Viking trolls. To only have 1 win against a team in your division over the last 5 years explains your vitriolic rants. Cobb obviously was commenting on the increased involvement of additional weapons. Thats for you sheeple with a Minnesota public education. Got it now? OWNED 1-9-1

  13. Judging that you have never played 16 games in a season yeah it will be tough!

    //////////////////////////////////////////////

    Except he played in all 16 games last year. Undressed again ariani1985. LOL

  14. longtimefanhtr says:
    Jun 5, 2015 5:58 PM

    When the Vikings ever suckceed in anything get back to me.
    ________

    I’d bet every one of the Vikings could succeed in beating you in a spelling bee.

  15. What a surprise, back to back posts by ariani and contra again. Why bother switching anymore?

    Viking trolls, you fill your stories comment section with crap and you fill ours with crap. Thanks

  16. Best receivers in the league, MVP qb, top tier rb (and #1 ranked fantasy player), and improved special teams. If we can field a decent defense, watch out.

  17. I’d bet every one of the Vikings could succeed in beating you in a spelling bee.
    ———
    I’ll give him even odds against AP….

  18. I’d bet every one of the Vikings could succeed in beating you in a spelling bee.

    /////////////////////////////////////////

    Sorry you didn’t get the suck part. It was intended.

  19. So many people claim the Packers choke in the playoffs, and yet so many of these same people are fans of teams that haven’t one a Superbowl anytime recently.

    Packers didn’t choke in 2011, just four years ago. So if a team doesn’t make it to the Superbowl multiple times in just 5 seasons, it is considering choking? What have your teams been doing lately?

  20. First post of the thread and its someone worried about the Vikings. It seems the Vikings are making lots of team worry so I am not surprised.

    Thanks for acknowledging.
    //////////////////////////////////////////

    because it always happens. Check out the comments above from Viking fans.

    That would be a comment about Vike fans….
    they undoubtedly have the worst case of “little brother” syndrome I’ve ever seen.
    Pretty comical.

  21. Both the Packers and Vikings are playing at Arizona late in the season. I just checked the NFL’s ticket exchange site.

    Cheapest GB ticket price – $132 each
    Cheapest MN ticket price – $37 each

    I guess the Vikings haven’t convinced anyone but their own fanbase that they’re worth seeing this year.

  22. “Dez will easily top those numbers…..again”
    ——————–

    Dez also is the only decent WR in Dallas. Cobb is the Packers #2 WR. Big difference.

  23. ariani1985 says:
    Jun 5, 2015 4:13 PM
    Judging that you have never played 16 games in a season yeah it will be tough!

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    You know, I didn’t have to go too far back to prove you wrong…

    2014 games… 16 games and he started and played in ALL 16 games this past season.

    And he played in 15 of 16 games in 2012…

    And he played in 15 of 16 games in 2011…

    All in all, not so bad.

  24. Great how the Vikings best player doesn’t want to play for them even though they’re paying him much more than anyone else would dream of paying him, while Cobb takes less money to stay with the Packers.

  25. hatersh8 says: Jun 5, 2015 5:18 PM

    Oh BTW, nice to see that you guys love Brett “wristwatch” Favre again after your fanbase went rabid and burned his memorabilia in 2009.
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    Kind of how the Vikings fan base, in less than a year, went from loving AP, to burning his memorabilia, to loving him all over again?

    As far as Cobbs’ comments, he’s applauding his teammates. He knows the team will be more successful if Rodgers spreads the ball to all his WRs, and some of the younger guys look like they are earning more targets. #BestWRCorpsInTheLeague.

  26. It must really s u ck to be a Viking fan.Year after year of disappointment. The team goes 7-9 and you think you’re going to the superbowl. Sad really when you think about it. 1-9-1 over a 5 year period against your biggest rival. Best player doesnt want to play for you. Whizzinator, love boat, SB ticket scalping, 50+ years of futility. No wonder they are so delusional on here. This is all they got.

  27. I always like it when a player takes less money to stay with the team that drafted them. Especially when it’s a player of Cobb’s caliber and the team is the Packers. Even when it isn’t, though, I find it admirable when players do this.

  28. I hate that my favorite team is associated with the Viking trolls on PFT.

    Give it a rest, everyone laughs at you, not because you’re funny or that you are “successful trolls” but because we know you are losers.

    Same goes for the other side. Every single Viking article is littered with the same crap over and over and over and over and over…. we get it, you have nothing else.

    Sadly, I have to disclaim that this is the original skolvikes and not the Packer troll that copied the username.

  29. The Viking trolls are entertaining only themselves…….again. Ignore them.

    Watch for Janus this year. He needed one year of learning the way things are, having earned a roster spot from a Division II. But watch this kid. Most people know little or nothing about him. His teammates, yes, his teammates, have given him the nickname V12.

    Wait and see. Are you wondering if the Packers will be improved this year? Wonder no more.

  30. Just ignore the Vikings trolls.

    We’re better than they are.

    And we prove it day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year.

    ——————————————————————————–
    Until Arrogant Aaron suffers his fatal blow and then you’re toast for the next decade or so.

  31. Wait and see. Are you wondering if the Packers will be improved this year? Wonder no more.
    —–
    I think they will be good. They’ll be good until Rodgers retired. But improved? No. I don’t see where they added anything to their team. Just kept intact. Which isn’t bad. Just not improved.

  32. Kind of how the Vikings fan base, in less than a year, went from loving AP, to burning his memorabilia, to loving him all over again?
    —-
    Didn’t happen. Plus, two completely different scenarios. Packer fans turn on every single player that signs with a different team. I don’t just mean they root against him. They genuinely hate the man.

  33. Best receivers in the league, MVP qb, top tier rb (and #1 ranked fantasy player), and improved special teams. If we can field a decent defense, watch out.
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    Pretty solid points Pkrlvr. But that’s how it’s always been with your team. $20 mil QB. Two $10 mil WR’s. The money runs out quickly. The question remains; can Rodgers out score the other team? I’d take a SB every 5-6 years for sure, but in the playoffs a mediocre defense gets exploited.

  34. lindacaseauthor says:
    Jun 6, 2015 7:14 AM
    Until Arrogant Aaron suffers his fatal blow and then you’re toast for the next decade or so.
    //////////////////////////////////////

    You wish! Tolzien and Hundley would both out-perform Bridgewater if given the same opportunity to get on the field. And when they soak up the mojo for the next three years, like Rodgers did, nothing is going to keep the Packers from continuing to own the North Division, especially the Vikings.

  35. conormacleod says: Jun 6, 2015 8:03 AM

    I think they will be good. They’ll be good until Rodgers retired. But improved? No. I don’t see where they added anything to their team. Just kept intact. Which isn’t bad. Just not improved.
    ————————-

    Can you honestly tell me where the Vikings significantly improved? You swapped Greg Jennings for Mike Wallace. Two different style receivers, I understand that, but still likely nothing more than a lateral move. Unless he becomes disruptive like he has in the past. I also know you signed Brandon Bostick, but is that an improvement? If you look to the draft, both the Packers and Vikings had a pretty good draft IMO.

    The Packers lost two DBs, but drafted two, and they still have two starting caliber DBs on the roster. And as far as losing Hawk and Jones at ILB, every Packers fan has been saying this even long before the end of the season, addition by subtraction.

    To me, the wildcard will be B.J. Raji. When he played NT, he made the pro bowl. When they moved him to end, he struggled. They moved him back to NT last year and was having a GREAT camp until he tore his biceps. He’s staying at NT this year and has declared himself 100% healthy, so, we’ll see.

  36. conormacleod says: Jun 6, 2015 8:06 AM

    Kind of how the Vikings fan base, in less than a year, went from loving AP, to burning his memorabilia, to loving him all over again?
    —-
    Didn’t happen. Plus, two completely different scenarios. Packer fans turn on every single player that signs with a different team. I don’t just mean they root against him. They genuinely hate the man.
    ———————-

    100% FALSE! No discussion. No debate. Nothing. There is no truth to this whatsoever. Packers fans have no ill will for Tramon Williams, Davon House, Brandon Bostick, A.J. Hawk, Brad Jones, James Jones, Charles Woodson, M.D. Jennings…. I could go on and on. Some of these players make some Packers’ fans happy that they no longer wear Green and Gold, but most everyone I know wishes them luck with their new team.

    Name one other player that the Packers turned on like Favre? I guess there was Greg Jennings, but that didn’t start until JENNINGS opened his mouth.

  37. “I think they will be good. They’ll be good until Rodgers retired. But improved? No. I don’t see where they added anything to their team. Just kept intact. Which isn’t bad. Just not improved.”

    And therein lies the fatal flaw in your thinking. This isn’t a rip at you, I swear, but you clearly don’t seem to understand how the Packers “draft and develop” philosophy works. You think that because TT didn’t trade up and take one of the highly touted names, that his draft wasn’t good. TT wasn’t drafting for this year. He was drafting for the future. If one or more of those guys can contribute as rookies, great. If not, that’s okay too.

    The Packers will be improved this year by guys they drafted 1,2, or even 3 years ago. They drafted them, they developed them, and now they’re ready to play. Rarely do their draft picks play as rookies. Sometimes they do, but rarely. This year, one of the drafted DBs may play some and Jake Ryan may play some at ILB. Then again, they may need more time to develop.

    It’s kind of funny that after every draft, the Viking fans just tear the Packers’ draft apart because they picked a lot of “no name” guys. Then 2 years later when those “no name” guys have been developed and start to play and play really well, the Viking fans go all berserk with “Where did that guy come from? Something isn’t right! Those cheating Packers are getting away with something! The NFL gives them whatever they want! Bla bla bla! Wah wah wah!”

    The following is also not meant as a rip at you personally, but this is why we laugh so hard at you guys every year when you thump your chests and declare that you “won the draft.”

  38. The following is also not meant as a rip at you personally, but this is why we laugh so hard at you guys every year when you thump your chests and declare that you “won the draft.”
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    Your diatribe put a lot of words in my mouth. Nowhere in my post did I address the Vikings team. Also, you make a lot of assumptions in yours. You assume your team will be improved because drafts from 2-3 years ago will be improved and are ready to contribute.

    You fail to address the fact that your cornerbacks and linebackers, which was already a source of weakness, have not been improved.

    Try to stay on topic. I’m addressing your team only.

  39. Name one other player that the Packers turned on like Favre? I guess there was Greg Jennings, but that didn’t start until JENNINGS opened his mouth.
    —-
    So you agree that there were more than just Favre? Thank you for agreeing with me.

  40. Right… and you still can’t seem to grasp “draft and develop.”

    Demetri Goodson will likely see some time at corner. He was a 6th round pick in last year’s draft. He was raw, with huge upside due to his athletic ability. He’s developed quite well and may very well make a lot of noise in the near future..

    Sam Barrington was drafted in the 7th round 2 years ago. He has developed well and has all but locked down one of the starting ILB spots.

    There are plenty more in camp. I’m not going to type it all out, though. I can lead your Unicorn to water, but I can’t make him drink.

  41. Can you honestly tell me where the Vikings significantly improved?
    ——
    Sure…
    1) They have an NFL MVP back at running back.
    2) Their QB is entering year two, after finishing very strong in his last 5-6 games.
    3) Their pro bowl tight end is 100% healthy (at least for now).
    4) Their left tackle, who played hurt and had a terrible year, is 100% healthy.
    5) After 3/5 of their o-line finished the season injured, they are healthy.
    6) They traded for a legitimate deep threat WR in Mike Wallace. I’m ok if he scores 10 td’s like he did last year.
    7) They drafted a CB with the 11th overall pick, which was a definite need.
    8) They drafted a middle linebacker in round 2, which was another definite area of need.
    9) This will be year 2 with new coaches and a new and improved system over the last regime.

    Now, they certainly aren’t ready for a SB run. But yes, they will be improved.

    Any other questions?

  42. conormacleod says: Jun 6, 2015 11:18 AM

    Name one other player that the Packers turned on like Favre? I guess there was Greg Jennings, but that didn’t start until JENNINGS opened his mouth.
    —-
    So you agree that there were more than just Favre? Thank you for agreeing with me.
    ———————-

    I think your alzheimers is showing, so let me point out exactly what you said: “Packer fans turn on every single player that signs with a different team.”

    So, your statement is about as accurate as if I were to say every single Vikings player beats their four-year-old son. Do you get it now?

  43. Any other questions?

    So you’re saying the Vikings are better because they have developing year-two players, players coming back from injury and the draft.

    How is that different than the Packers having developing year-two players, players coming back from injury and the draft? After all, you did say the Packers didn’t improve. Double-standard much?

  44. Hey Cabbage, perhaps your 6th and 7th round picks from drafts past will contribute significantly this year. But I will tell you, I’m comfortable with the Vikings offense going up against your defenses 6th and 7th round draft choices.

    Now, will the Vikings offense out score Aaron Rodgers? That will be an “any given Sunday” scenario I believe. I happen to think these teams will match up closely head to head this year and beyond.

  45. I think your alzheimers is showing
    ——
    I like debating. I like disagreements. I love talking X’s and O’s. Usually when a person isn’t knowledgable enough to stay on topic they resort to juvenile name calling like the above.

    I don’t find making fun of a real problem that many people have amusing. Stay classy Green Bay.

  46. conormacleod says: Jun 6, 2015 11:46 AM

    I think your alzheimers is showing
    ——
    I like debating. I like disagreements. I love talking X’s and O’s. Usually when a person isn’t knowledgable enough to stay on topic they resort to juvenile name calling like the above.
    —————————-

    Says the person who goes off topic.

    You’re also the first person I’ve ever met who’s touchy about Alzheimers. It runs in my family, and I’ll likely get it, myself. To me it’s just a sad part of the aging process for a lot of people.

    So, to spare your widdle feelings, I’ll retract that statement and just say that you just have a really bad memory since you can’t seem to remember what you wrote from one post to another.

    Now if you’d like to respond to my questions, the floor is humbly yours.

  47. Conor,

    I can almost agree with much of that. I’ll go so far as to say the Vikings have the potential to compete with the Pack, but at this point, potential is all that it is. They’ve got to actually do something for me to believe.

    As to your not being worried about the 6th and 7th round picks that I mentioned above, I’ll say this (and I’ll try and make it gentle).

    In 2010, the Pack beat the hell out of the Vikings playing some late round picks and UDAs from ’07, ’08’ and ’09.

    In 2011, the Pack beat the hell out of the Vikings playing some late round picks and UDAs from ’08, ’09 and ’10.

    In 2012 the Pack beat… (that’s enough)

    See where I’m going with this? Every year, the Pack ends up playing guys like the ones I mentioned above. They lost Greg Jennings, James Jones and Donald Driver in the span of 2 years time and the offense never missed a beat. They did this by plugging in guys that were drafted late or UFA and developed over a year, or two, or three.

    No big “splash” moves (other than Peppers and that was a rarity).

  48. Any other questions?

    So you’re saying the Vikings are better because they have developing year-two players, players coming back from injury and the draft.

    How is that different than the Packers having developing year-two players, players coming back from injury and the draft? After all, you did say the Packers didn’t improve. Double-standard much?
    ——–
    In my opinion, getting AP and Rudolph back are considerably better gains than second year developing 6th and 7th round draft choices. And I think a second year QB, who played 12 games as a rookie is also a big difference than two developing cornerbacks.

    And I believe the point was made that the Packers draft was not about finding impact players for this year, whereas the Vikings filled two gaping holes on defense with their first two picks.

    Don’t get me wrong, with Aaron Rodgers at QB, your confidence should always be high. My original point was that I didn’t think the Packers “improved” in the off season.

  49. “Any other questions?”

    Yes, I have one. How is it that you can write such a sensible, well thought out post but still can’t seem to grasp “draft and develop?”
    ——-
    I understand just fine. It’s just that you’re making a lot of assumptions on those two cornerbacks and your third wide receiver. I can’t use the word “improved” when stating your team is developing 6th and 7th round draft picks over last years starters. Only time will tell.

  50. Going further… Sam Shields and Tramon Williams were both UDFA and Davon House was a 4th round pick. Most Viking fans laughed and laughed, telling us all about how those “no name” corners were going to get cooked!

    Shields and Williams became very solid starting corners and House was great in the slot or at nickle.

    Williams and House left in free agency and those very same Viking fans that laughed and laughed about them playing at all are now saying “The Packers lost 2 of their best corners! Whoever comes in is going to get cooked!”

    Surely you can see why it’s just really, really hard to take Viking fans seriously anymore.

    I do wish we would have retained House, though. I think he’s going to be fantastic as a starter outside.

  51. I can almost agree with much of that. I’ll go so far as to say the Vikings have the potential to compete with the Pack, but at this point, potential is all that it is. They’ve got to actually do something for me to believe.
    ——
    That’s certainly fair enough entering this season. Sad or not, that’s closer than the past several seasons.

  52. Going further… Sam Shields and Tramon Williams were both UDFA and Davon House was a 4th round pick. Most Viking fans laughed and laughed, telling us all about how those “no name” corners were going to get cooked!
    —–
    Your argument might hold water if the Packers defense was ever considered as feared, or even decent. I believe they improved last year to middle of the pack, no pun intended. I believe your “developing late round picks” defense is the reason your team does not have 2-3 Superbowl wins with Aaron Rodgers.

  53. Last year’s problem was run defense up the middle. In the first half of the season, they were ranked at or near dead last in the entire NFL. After the bye, they moved CM to the inside and from that point forward their run defense was top 5 in the entire league. That’s how they ended up in the “middle of the pack” on the season.

    Pass defense was never a problem other than when Julio Jones pretty much had his way with the secondary. Even that stopped when House came in for an injured Shields. House was big enough and strong enough to play Jones physically. Goodson is also big, strong and physical… hopefully he’ll make the “second year jump” that McCarthy often talks about. If not, letting House go could end up as a big mistake.

  54. After the bye, they moved CM to the inside and from that point forward their run defense was top 5 in the entire league. That’s how they ended up in the “middle of the pack” on the season.
    ——–
    How was the pass rush and pass defense after CM moved to the inside? I honestly don’t know. I personally think he’s much more valuable on the outside when rushing the QB. That’s why he makes $11 mil a year. Sack the QB.

  55. Obviously, with the return of All Day AP, the Vikings are going to be much better. I like Zimmer too; he’s a no nonsense guy. I hope both teams stay as healthy as possible this year. It will be much more satisfying, to me at least, to beat the best you can bring.

  56. conormacleod says:
    Jun 6, 2015 9:12 PM

    How was the pass rush and pass defense after CM moved to the inside? I honestly don’t know. I personally think he’s much more valuable on the outside when rushing the QB. That’s why he makes $11 mil a year. Sack the QB.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Clay is going to play inside on early downs and outside on later downs for the most part. But you will never know, you better worry about where he is every play. His sacks went up considerably after he started moving around last year plus the 1st down run defense got much better. It was a win-win situation, that’s why were sticking with it this year and will probably add a few new wrinkles to boot. I think we’ll find out how good your promising young QB is at audibles.

  57. conormacleod says:
    Jun 6, 2015 8:06 AM
    Kind of how the Vikings fan base, in less than a year, went from loving AP, to burning his memorabilia, to loving him all over again?
    —-
    Didn’t happen. Plus, two completely different scenarios. Packer fans turn on every single player that signs with a different team. I don’t just mean they root against him. They genuinely hate the man.

    I am a Packers fan and this does not describe me at all, Favre is probably my favorite Packer. I know some Packers fans hate him, I don’t really get it. He played hard for the Packers, thats all I ask, the business side of the game I have no control over so I wish former players well if they represented the Packers well.

  58. Cobb could top last year. He only played in 15 games and of those, 3 out them were embarrassing blow outs where the Packers were so far ahead by halftime, they took the 2nd half off.

    Embarrassing is somewhat subject though since one of those games were vs. the Vikings and they are hardly embarrassed about losing 35-0, its about par for their course.

  59. stellarperformance says:
    Jun 6, 2015 9:42 AM

    lindacaseauthor says:
    Jun 6, 2015 7:14 AM
    Until Arrogant Aaron suffers his fatal blow and then you’re toast for the next decade or so.
    //////////////////////////////////////

    You wish! Tolzien and Hundley would both out-perform Bridgewater if given the same opportunity to get on the field. And when they soak up the mojo for the next three years, like Rodgers did, nothing is going to keep the Packers from continuing to own the North Division, especially the Vikings.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////// LMAO. Tolzien and Hundley???? You ARE freakin delusional. Once Arrogant Aaron is out of the picture it’s back to the 1980’s for you bozos, and you darn well know it! #one trick pony, #cheeseheaddelusionsof grandeur, #majorchoke.

  60. You heard me right. Tolzien and Hundley. Both better than Bridgewater.

    The Packers own the Vikings, and will continue to do so for years to come.

  61. Yeah I heard you @stellarperformance and I’m still LMAO. NEVER once have I heard a sports expert make the same claim as you. IN FACT they tout the virtues of Teddy. And WHO is Tolzien? Hundley is totally raw, a college nothing last year, NOT a first round pick like Favre or Rodgers. Probably right up there with Ponder for all you REALLY know. You sound like a whacko as if the Cheesehead ambience (whatever that is) will somehow seep into these below par QBs and shazam! turn them into HOF QBs. Unfortunately for you, it doesn’t work that way in the NFL AR goes and you are total toast for a very long time so enjoy it while it lasts, because it never does. #cheeseheadarrogance. #zimmerdeadlydefense. #chunkymonkeycheeseheadcoach. #majormajorchoke.

  62. conormacleod says:
    Jun 6, 2015
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    I understand just fine. It’s just that you’re making a lot of assumptions on those two cornerbacks and your third wide receiver. I can’t use the word “improved” when stating your team is developing 6th and 7th round draft picks over last years starters. Only time will tell.

    ……………………………………………………………………………………….

    conormacleod says:
    2) Their QB is entering year two, after finishing very strong in his last 5-6 games.

    ……………………………………………………………………………………….

    So you can suggest that the Vikings are improved based on Bridgewater`s performance in his last 5-6 games? Who were those against-please remind us. You better wait and see how Bridgewater performs in year two before you go claiming that the Vikings and Packers will be evenly matched going forward.

  63. lindacaseauthor says:
    Jun 7, 2015 5:53 PM
    NEVER once have I heard a sports expert make the same claim as you. IN FACT they tout the virtues of Teddy……………….. And AR goes and you are total toast for a very long time so enjoy it while it lasts, because it never does.

    …………………………………………………………………………………………..

    So you are pinning your hopes on sports experts who tout the virtues of Teddy? You are just setting yourself for your usual season of disappointment, as usual. And you are also one who would know what total toast is. Your team has endured over 50 seasons of total toast.

  64. Keep in mind, I said, ” if they got the same playing time Bridgewater received.”

    Bridgewater is pedestrian. Nothing special.

  65. @stellarperformance—-Bullcrap. YOU Wish Teddy was pedestrian but you fear he is not, thus the Cheesehead onslaught about
    Teddy. With all the talent surrounding him this season, he’s gonna be great. Book It! And I hope it’s Zimmer’s defense that takes AR out THIS season (as someone will). Cherry on top for the Vikings. #can’twait4Hundleystart, #TolzienWHO???, #majormajormajorchoke

  66. lindacaseauthor says: Jun 7, 2015 6:48 PM

    @stellarperformance—-Bullcrap. YOU Wish Teddy was pedestrian but you fear he is not, thus the Cheesehead onslaught about
    Teddy. With all the talent surrounding him this season, he’s gonna be great. Book It! And I hope it’s Zimmer’s defense that takes AR out THIS season (as someone will). Cherry on top for the Vikings. #can’twait4Hundleystart, #TolzienWHO???, #majormajormajorchoke

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    No worries, you queen fans have been saying that for the last 30 years. How do you top Favre, the second best QB of all time? You plug in Rodgers, the BEST QB of all time.

  67. @stellarperformance—-Yeah we have, but for the first time in six years things have definitely changed and the stars have finally aligned. Really good coaches, rising, YOUNG QB, good WRs and TEs, best RB in the NFL, and a defense that is going to be lethal. You Cheeseheads base all your futures on your pasts and that means crap. Let’s see what happens this year. ONLY.

  68. lindacaseauthor says:
    Jun 8, 2015 1:39 PM
    You Cheeseheads base all your futures on your pasts and that means crap.
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    Just because we have more tradition and history and success in our past that you can ever hope to have in your dreams, doesn’t mean we aren’t prepared for whatever another team can throw at us.

    After all, it wasn’t us that picked the Packers to win it all this year.

    If your boasting and bragging……..err…I mean wishes and hopes….do not materialize, can we expect you will go away forever…with your tail between your legs?

    I guess we’ll see.

  69. stellarperformance says: Jun 7, 2015 5:32 PM

    You heard me right. Tolzien and Hundley. Both better than Bridgewater.
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    Statements like these are why no one takes you or your Packer trolls comments seriously. Claiming backups who’ve yet to start in a game are better than the Rookie of the Year? Did you bother to look at TeddyB’s college stats? 31 TDs to 4 INts in his senior year (his junior year was impressive as well). Neither of your QB’s could touch that in their college careers. In fact both of them were reliable and consistent, but neither showed progress and growth. Unlike Teddy B who got noticeably better every single season at Louisville (a prostyle offense, which neither of your Backups ran in college either.)

    Btw, its not just Viking fans optimistic about our season, King put us #6 in his power rankings. The Vikings had every possible obstacle and deterrent thrown at them last year and were within one score of winning most of their games while the Packers had virtually everything go their way. When you have good luck and ignore the variables it’s easy to get a big head and assume you’re unbeatable.

    But luck runs out and on then it comes down to talent, and the Vikings have more talent at almost every position on Defense, more talent at RB, more talent at TE (when he’s healthy), and the gap between the QB and WR talent has been GREATLY diminished. Anyone who is in denial about the Vikings being able to contend with the Packers should seek serious psychological help.

  70. All I am saying is Tolzien would perform every bit as well as Bridgewater……if he got the same playing time.

    In college…Tolzien completed 72.9 % of passes (Bridgewater 71.0,) Tolzien had yards per attempt of 9.2 (Bridgewater 9.3,) Tolzien had an overall rating of 167.9 (Bridgewater 171.1.)

    Not a huge difference.

    If Tolzien had fifteen NFL games under his belt, he would perform as well or better than Bridgewater.

    I’m not saying either one would ever be as good as Rodgers, only that they are no better or worse than each other.

    Bridgewater had more yards, but in a pass first offense. Wisconsin has had nothing but run-first offenses for many years.

    The bottom line: Bridgewater is OK…nothing special. If every team forced first-time starting status onto a no-name QB currently on their roster, to play in fifteen games last year, at least half would’ve finished ahead of Bridgewater…….statistically, including Tolzien. In my opinion.

  71. But luck runs out and on then it comes down to talent, and the Vikings have more talent at almost every position on Defense, more talent at RB, more talent at TE (when he’s healthy), and the gap between the QB and WR talent has been GREATLY diminished.

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    Anyone who makes a statement like that is the one who should be seeking help.

  72. ……while the Packers had virtually everything go their way.

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    Contending teams dictate the way things go, they don`t depend on things going their way.

  73. You can’t dictate injuries and off the field issues that effect personnel. If GB lost Lacy and Rodgers do you think you’d win more than 7 games? If you answer yes to that you should commit yourself to the nearest psych ward immediately.

    Teddy B: 31 TDs, 4 ints
    Tolzine: 16 TDs, 8 ints

    How is that even remotely close? That’s 105+ points with the 4 extra ints likely adding 14 or more points to that. That’s 10 points PER GAME in a college season. Seriously, put down the pipe, you’re dangerously close to the edge.

    College Defenses knew Teddy was throwing and still couldn’t stop him. Mn and Wisc both are/were run-first offenses but still had to throw the ball when they were losing, case and point Ohio State. I think they beat Wisconsin by about 59? And MN by 7? Was Wisconsin still “run first” when they were down by 4 touchdowns in the first quarter? I think not. So what’s his excuse for letting his team be completely ineffective against a team even the Gophers (with one of the worst QBs in college football) could put up 24 points against?

    Teams predicate their offenses upon their talent, if Tolzien was a top-tier QB, Wisconsin would have tailored the system to him. He showed almost no improvement between his junior and senior year and required a strong running game to be halfway decent. Teddy B improved every year and carried his team in spite of a Running game. Which QB would you put your money on succeeding in the NFL? Nevermind, no point asking you to make an objective, honest conclusion since the Puke and Piss runs to the core.

    Reality of Teddy B’s #’s > Your speculation of what Tolzine might be able to do with…12 games under his belt (not 15).

  74. If Rodgers gets hurt in the first minute against the Vikings, and Tolzien has to replace him, I will put my money on Tolzien. That’s all I’m saying.

    I am not (yet) impressed with Bridgewater. He’s OK, and he’s better than what you had previously. But if Rodgers is a 9.5, Wilson is a 8.0, Romo is a 7.5, then Bridgewater is a 6.5. There are at least 18 teams with 6.5’s as their starting QB. He’s one of them.

    There. Does that simplify it for you?

  75. With Rodgers and without AP you beat the Vikings by 2. Without Rodgers and with AP you think there wouldn’t be a 3 point swing? You’re ridiculous. And you’d lose your money as you were laughed out of the casino. Unless of course the odds were done properly at about 100;1, then with those odds even I’d put a couple bucks down on it. IS that what you meant? Must be.

    You just randomly assigned point values to QBs based purely on your opinion, that is being SIMPLE, not simplifying a cogent point. In the first games of his career Teddy was mediocre, as to be expected from a ROOKIE, but in the last 6 games he was a top 10 QB easily. And he did it without starters at 3/5ths of the OL, the RB, the TE, and a pedestrian WR core.

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