Russell Wilson, on contract: I’ve “been moved around before”

Quarterback Russell Wilson has been accused to subtweeting the Seahawks in regards to his ongoing contract talks.

Monday, a question about his status from a pair of Raleigh, N.C. radio hosts led to a discussion about the way he’s moved before.

Appearing on “The Adam and Joe Show” on 99.9 The Fan, Wilson left a trail of crumbs from his transfer from N.C. State to Wisconsin to current events which could easily be interpreted a certain way.

“At the end of the day I trust the process,” Wilson said. “I know God’s going to take me and put me where he wants to have me. I hope that’s Seattle. I love it there, it’s a great place. But I’ve also gone through the ups and downs and been moved around before. I loved N.C. State and loved playing there and then having to go somewhere else and start new.

“I ultimately, I know mentally and physically and spiritually I’m prepared for whatever. Every day I’m going to go to work. I’m not the kind of person that’s going to hold out or do any of that, because I want to be the best player I can be. I want to try to improve on the field.”

As for the talks themselves, Wilson referred to them as “a blessing” and that he was “thankful to be in this position.”

He also circled back to say “hopefully works out with the Seattle Seahawks, . . . it’ll all work out how it’s supposed to.”

Until this contract is done, there will be loads of speculation about his intent. And because Wilson tends to speak in aphorisms, it’s hard to gauge if it was meant as a sign or not.

But bringing up the fact he’s transferred before could also suggest he’s willing to consider it again.

138 responses to “Russell Wilson, on contract: I’ve “been moved around before”

  1. Why are they not paying him? QB’s are so hard to find. He’s proven he’s a great QB. He earned a pay raise.

  2. I remember watching him his senior year and thinking man if this guy is available in the second round my bills should grab him. Instead we trade up in the third round and draft TJ Graham who was a bust. Maybe if the Hawks let him test the market my bills with the Pegulas backing will snatch him up. Here’s hoping!!

  3. Because if they pay him what he’s worth they have to blow up the team…. tough to let go of that until they absolutely have to…. Hopefully he’s more a Tom Brady than a Peyton Manning or Drew Brees. Rings or records Russell, your choice.

  4. This is Wilson’s attempt to play “Bad Cop” with the Seahawks. He is trying to put the image of himself playing in another uniform as a means of driving up his worth

  5. vancouversportsbro says:
    Jun 22, 2015 5:43 PM
    Top five QBs:
    1. Clutchel Wilson
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Big Ben Roethslisberger
    4. Peyton Manning
    5. Tom Brady

    “Clutchel” Wilson – laughed out loud at this one. Dude is fresh off throwing a pick to lose the SB. “Chokel” Wilson, maybe.

  6. When you exclude Peyton, Brees and Brady (all will be out of the league soon), Wilson is a top 5 QB. Seattle will pay him Top 5 money or someone else will.

  7. Jun 22, 2015 5:47 PM

    vancouversportsbro says:
    Jun 22, 2015 5:43 PM
    Top five QBs:
    1. Clutchel Wilson
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Big Ben Roethslisberger
    4. Peyton Manning
    5. Tom Brady

    “Clutchel” Wilson – laughed out loud at this one. Dude is fresh off throwing a pick to lose the SB. “Chokel” Wilson, maybe.
    —————————————-
    More like bad play call with a great defensive play made. Wilson got them to the three against a very good secondary and then instead of running lynch and winning Carol called a pass that was picked off by a player making a good play

  8. I’m a Pats fan, and I’d tell you straight up that the Hawks would be bananas to not get this deal done. I’ve been watching Wilson since NC State, and believed he’d be a very good to great player in the pros. This kid just has “IT.” Just because Seattle lost the Super Bowl in dramatic and excruciating fashion doesn’t mean this team is going anywhere. On paper today, I’d even argue they’re more likely to make it back to the big game than my own Pats. That secondary is still dirty. Beast Mode is back for another year. And Jimmy Graham, forget about it. This team is as dangerous as ever, but only with Wilson under center, unless they want to just want to hope they get lucky in the third round on a QB who’s just a little small again, like that happens every year.

  9. Hard core Hawk fan here…

    Love Russ and everything he brings to the table. However, our team is build on a strong D and ruthless running game. Our D and Running game punishes teams where they can’t compete in the 4Q physically and mentally. Can’t be paying your QB top dollar with that philosophy. Plain and simple.

    In Pete and John we trust.

  10. Well, they now have the problem of having to pay Jimmy Grahams huge contract and shock of shocks there’s not enough money to pay a huge QB salary as well…

    Fun fun fun

  11. There are a few things to keep in mind about this ongoing contract story. First is: Russell Wilson wants to get paid. He knows that being the best means you get paid a ton over time. Regardless of the specifics, Rodgers Brady Manning – they all get paid. That’s what Wilson wants. Second thing to remember is: Russell Wilson wants to get paid. He knows that the best way to maximize the pay check is to make your first team in NFL want to pay you and then to have that same team KEEP paying you. Wilson will make more in the long run if he keeps playing at a high level and the Seahawks keep doing extensions. The last thing to keep in mind is that Seattle fits Russell Wilson. He’s a better QB here than he would be with the Colts, for example. Wilson knows his best chance to PLAY at a high level comes from playing with the Seahawks.

    The Seahawks are in position to take up the Franchise tag. It’s an odd spot to be for the team. Most teams don’t have this problem. How often does a 3rd round QB command Elite QB money before the 4th year?! So Seattle may be willing to play out this year and if they miss the playoffs they will offer Wilson earthly sums of money. If the Seahawks make it to the Superbowl again, kiss the farm goodbye, because Seattle will sell the farm to keep this kid.

  12. Child please. He’ll get his money. All this drama is silly. Watch what he does this year with the Beast running and throwing it to Jimmy Graham. That running game will open up huge possibilities in the passing game. Too bad they didn’t have graham on the 3 yard line in the Super Bowl. If frogs had wings they wouldn’t…..you know…

  13. Imagine if Buffalo can get their hands on this guy with them actually having receivers to throw to instead of the steady diet of underwhelming that he’s had in Seattle. I’d put my bet in for the first QB to in Super Bowls with different uniforms.

  14. Wilson’s not “going” anywhere unless the Hawks want him to.

    He plays this year for $1.5M with what should be the best receiving corp he’s had in the NFL.

    The Hawks then either pay him (with the cap space allowed by the higher cap number) or they franchise him.

    The franchise next year will be about $20M

    They can then franchise him the year after for about $24M.

    He’s then 30 years old.

    Worst case is an opportunity for three more shots with him for rings and in the NFL windows close quickly so that wouldn’t be terrible.

  15. If you think RW is going anywhere you are either a fan of a team that needs a QB or you have no idea of how close this team is from the GM to coach to the players. Or maybe you don’t know what a franchise tag is. Either way he will be a hawks for the next 10 years

  16. Chewy how well did that work for us in 2010 and 2011. We had a great team but no QB. Back to back 7-9 seasons. Add russ we go 11-5 lose in the divisional round in his first year then back to back Super Bowls. If you want to think that is all the FO then more power to you. As a CSL season ticket holder and a long time fan, I would be very upset if they let Russ walk. Dude has done nothing but win games and motivate the people around him. His work off the field in Seattle is icing on the cake. He deserves a contract. Lynch will be gone in a couple of years….if not after this one. What the hell would we do without Lynch and Wilson? There is no one on our team that could replace either one of them.

  17. Can’t believe Dallas fans think he’s gonna be a cowboy. Wilson will get franchise tag for consecutive years. Making he’s a Seahawks for the next three seasons guaranteed.
    11-5 with a playoff win
    13-3 with a super bowl win
    12-4 with a nfc championship win

    First three seasons. We’re not letting him go.
    Go Seahawks. Fyi, this guy is a saint off the field and consists children hospitals on a routine. Think about that next time you bash him

  18. Seattle lucked out by getting a very good QB in the third round (because he’s short). They have paid him relative peanuts and he has taken them to 2 Super Bowls. They have also paid all their other key components (Sherman, Thomas, Lynch, etc) but it’s now time to pay Russell Wilson and he deserves it. Pay the man or live with the consequences if you think that it was just the Defense.

  19. Seahawks are offering to make him the 3rd highest paid player in the NFL, with $85 M over 4 years (some say as high as $87 M).

    What Russell is offering the Seahawks is to play 2015 and 2016 for $22 M total under the non-exclusive tag, and then (still under the non-exclusive tag) hit “free agency”, while sacrificing the highest-bidder’s next 2 first round picks to Seattle OR letting Seattle match the offer.

    Russell Wilson is giving the Seahawks the most team-friendly deal in the history of the NFL, all for his agent to say he gets to try “free agency”

  20. Hardcore Hawk Fan here too..

    Aside from the likes of Flacco/Dilfer & Brad Johnson, SB’s are in fact won with top tier QB’s over the past 25 yrs. Yes, those 3 examples of SB winning QB’s had all-time great Defenses on their side mush like our “D” but the stone cold reality is that the Hawks can’t expect the defense to carry the load year after year without losing a step or two.

    Russell has in fact shown that he can win games on his own when the defense falters. The notion of being able to just plug in another mobile QB and expect comparable results is insane.

    I guess the new “12’s” don’t remember what it was like to have the likes of Mirer, Friesz, Kitna and Co at the helm

  21. Hawks fans keep bringing up the franchise tag, but that will be a pretty significant cap hit that can’t be amortized over subsequent contract years to manipulate the cap. I seriously wonder if the Hawks could absorb a high QB cap hit under the franchise tag process without messing up the team.

  22. They won’t pay him because he’s not worth nearly as much as he wants. The cold hard truth is he is a serviceable QB and only wins as much as he does because his cheap price tag allows the team to stack talent all around him. Wilson will get payed and when he does expect him to come crashing back to earth because he won’t have half the talent around him that he has enjoyed up until this point.

  23. His stats have declined every year since he’s been in the league.

    If you take away the performance of a foot locker employee turned practice squad turned forced into service wide receiver and a juggling improbable catch along the sidelines I mean what did Seattle do in the super bowl offensively? Nothing.

    Honestly Wilson was exposed and when the game was gift wrapped for him via the improbable, juggling catch, he choked and telegraphed the slant.

  24. Yes it was a bad play call and a great defensive play but it was also a bad throw. That pass has to be low and even a bit behind so it doesn’t get intercepted.

  25. Pocket passers will be around at the end of their contracts………”mobile” QBs not so much. Of course Seattle has to factor Wilson’s style of play when determining guarantees….and Wilson will need to structure a contract that takes into consideration his durability. Less guaranteed money but higher yearly compensation for a healthy Wilson. Both sides must accept some risk.

  26. Another block out of the Jenga tower… Soon it will all crumble, like really soon.

    This is going to be fun to watch.

    1-2’s forever

  27. I hope people seriously aren’t giving the seahawks to much success for Russell?
    first of how many qb’s did they miss of before striking gold on him?
    Secondly except Marshawn Lynch how many weapons have they given him on offense? His favorite target in the superbowl worked at foot locker!! come on

  28. If there was a god I think he’d be more concerned with starving children and global catastrophies than where an unremarkable QB ends up playing.

  29. Trade him to Tennessee or Oakland and we’ll discover how average he really is.

  30. He stands to make at least $48M guaranteed in 2016 and 2017 from franchise tagging alone.

    Why would he agree to a team-friendly contract that guarantees him any less than that?

    If I’m Wilson, I play out the final two tag seasons in Seattle, land on the open market, and hit that $150M jackpot we all know he’ll get from one of the 15 NFL teams that are dying for an excellent starting QB.

  31. Tavaris Jackson seems like a pretty good alternative. Oh wait he started before, and kind of sucked? Can we get Whitehurst back? No?

    The NFL is still a QB league. Yeah the D is elite, but the Hawks O-line sucks, and he’s been throwing to guys who would be WR3 on any decent team. The Hawks hit the jackpot drafting Wilson, and now they have to pay him, otherwise they are probably 20 or so other teams who will gladly take him at ~$20M per year. Just a matter of how the deal will be structured and when.

  32. How do you know what he’s asking for?

    Maybe he wants 25MM. Maybe 27MM.

    We have no details so how can you assume the Hawks don’t want to get the deal done?

  33. Russell Wilson, this is God. Not some other god but the Real God (which you can be sure of by looking at the capitalizations) and you’d better listen to me; you know what I’m capable of. I am placing you in Denver. I want you to go there and win four Super Bowls, and I also want you to stop invoking my name all the time, or I’ll send you to the Jets. Emmis.

  34. Wilson is going to need that insurance policy if Seattle can’t afford to pay an ‘O’line to protect him because he took all of it. He’d best reflect upon that too.

  35. As Wilson looks around the league, he sees a place with an elite defense, quality receivers, and is only lacking QB to get them over the top. He is likely looking at Buffalo as his next stop.

  36. Where was this awesome team with a stellar defense before Wilson got there? Yeah, that’s right you sucked before he got there. Just plain sucked. Pay the man, he’s earned it!

  37. Without Wilson, the ‘Hawks would not have even been in the SB. GB choked, but when it came right down to it, Wilson had to make big play after big play after big play to pull it off… and he did. I don’t think any other QB would have gotten it done, including Brady, Manning, Rodgers, or anybody else. It was a performances for the ages.

  38. God is a little busy atm, you should probably think for yourself on this one.

    I wonder what his late father would think of russell’s new diva attitude. Probably not much.

  39. Acording to Wilson God wants him to get paid a crap load of money more than he is worth. Apparently he didn’t read much in the good book about Greed. I don’t blame him if he wants to try and break the bank, but don’t bring God into this thing.

  40. Wilso has no leverage.

    If he doesn’t sign he’ll play for the next three years for $47M. The Hawks can then give him the non exclusive and get match or get the picks.

  41. If Wilson thinks moving around is no big deal, he better pick a team with a great defense if he wants to enjoy any success elsewhere. His quarterback skills aren’t good. If you think I am wrong, look how everyone drooled over kaepernick a couple years ago. Defense goes into a slide down and all the sudden he isn’t very good. That is what happens when a sub par quarterback is asked to carry the load.

  42. abqhawk says:
    Jun 22, 2015 7:48 PM
    Wilson is going to need that insurance policy if Seattle can’t afford to pay an ‘O’line to protect him because he took all of it. He’d best reflect upon that too.
    ________________________________________
    Seattle had the 25th rated offensive line last year AND we lost 2 starters off that line–2 starters from a really bad offensive line. I can’t even imagine how bad it will be now. So whether Wilson takes a lot of money or not, he can’t make the offensive line any worse. Literally.

  43. If Wilson thinks moving around is no big deal, he better pick a team with a great defense if he wants to enjoy any success elsewhere. His quarterback skills aren’t good. If you think I am wrong, look how everyone drooled over kaepernick a couple years ago. Defense goes into a slide down and all the sudden he isn’t very good. That is what happens when a sub par quarterback is asked to carry the load.

    ———————–
    The 49ers defense was bad when Kap took them through end of the year and into the SB. Defense gave up 30 points a game through their last 6 games.

    RW hasn’t won a single game in his career when defense gives up 24+ points. I guess having the #1 in scoring defense through the 3 years of career can make you demand over $25MM a year.

  44. Agent is giving him bad advise IMO. Will miss out on $22-25 million over next three years if he plays for rookie contract this year. He is smart and knows this. If his season didn’t end with a pick deal would be done and he would get close to what he wants. Hawks are in pretty good shape cap-wise however this goes,but if they don’t sign him to extension maybe they will have a chunk of change to spend on a free agent need if it’s available. Salary cap makes it difficult to keep teams intact ,and they will never be as deep or as good as that roster they had in 2013, but they are going to have a roster in 2015 that will be formidable. Where they are spending big bucks they are certainly getting production.

  45. They have had 3 years to plan for this and are trying to low-ball Wilson because he is a good guy…what a joke…….. I guess all the boot licking and praise has clouded up Schniders vision….the last two years have slowly eroded talent off this roster. I know 12man wont agree until its obvious, but its happening.

  46. Golf Nutt pay attention this year. Some new names to get to know…nm you wont. You obviously haven’t been if you think the talent is eroding.

    And that’s the defense…the offense is about to blow up with Lockett and graham.

  47. Wilson has mismanaged the whole process. He had a horrible CG, and then of course, the disastrous final play against the Pats. Should have played it cool; instead he started threatening the Hawks and suggesting he would go play baseball. I think negotiations sputtered right after that. An owner is not going to invest a huge contract in someone who could get injured, while screwing around, playing baseball.

    I guess it’s a little karma, too. He dumps his high school sweetheart wife, right before the projected big payday.

    My advice to Hawks, play the guy out through next year under current contract, and play it by ear.

  48. Top five QBs:
    1. Clutchel Wilson
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Big Ben Roethslisberger
    4. Peyton Manning
    5. Tom Brady
    ————————

    Ha Ha! There isn’t a person in the NFL who would put Wilson ahead of Rodgers if they were to pick a QB for their franchise. Or even any of the rest on the list….except maybe Manning due to age,

  49. He has tremendous help in that system, I’m not saying he isn’t a good quarterback, but I’m seeing some cracks on this guy. His shtick is getting old, his popularity on team is 50/50, his tv and movie crap, his new FAMOUS girlfriend, the constant comments about his charity work (NFL mandatory on Tuesdays)…..he’s not signed and there is a reason.

  50. I hope this story ends like the one of Joe Flacco and the Ravens.
    Flacco wanted Elite money, didn’t get it in an extension, then played out his final year and won the Super Bowl. Then Chaching! Flacco got paid.
    So, what if Russell Wilson plays out the final year of his rookie contract, and for the Third year in a row the Seahawks play the Super Bowl, and only this time win to make it two out of three?
    Wilson and the Seahawks would become Historic and many levels from Defense, to the run game, to Wilson pulling huge plays out of his hat.
    Seahawks were a top team last year in plays over 20 yards. Does that sound like a grind it out team?

  51. I don’t know what he deserves to get paid, but looking at the situation, apparently Schneider and Carroll don’t think the path to continued Superbowl runs is paying Russell Wilson more than they have already offered. That speak volumes.

    Seattle fans, when you talk about how good you think he is, keep that in mind. Your own braintrust doesn’t necessarily agree with you.

  52. You don’t try to get your superstar quarterback to take a home town discount.

    Good for Russ. Seattle can’t be stupid enough to let him walk. Get paid Russ!

  53. I mean what is he suppose to do? if the team doesn’t pay him what he is worth then he will move on and test the FA market….I hate when a team treats a player who is good for the game on and off the field like this….stop giving the money to rapist and drunks and wife beaters and give the good guys who can play the money…..if they dont give him his money I hope the Seahawks never win another game……

  54. Hard to believe they’re jerking this guy around. What else does he have to do? You guys do remember when your idea of a great QB was Dave Krieg right?

  55. We fans have no inside knowledge of the contract discussion.

    We don’t know if the Sea Hawks are low balling him, or he’s asking for the GNP of Germany. We don’t know if there is a disagreement on the amount of the guarantee, or the length of the contract.

    “Pay the man” – what if he’s asking for 25MM/year? What if on top of that he wants a yearly raise?
    At some point a player isn’t worth what he’s asking, and you have to let him go.
    There is always a desperate team that will take that player if he plays a key position, like QB.

    I think the Sea Hawks would be wise to over pay a little, because it’s so hard to find and develop a replacement. Most don’t work out. And it takes years and draft picks to find a replacement.

    Now having said that, do you think the Bengals are happy with Andy Dalton? What if Kaepernick has another year like he did in 2014, will the 49ers be happy? The reason those guys make as much as they do is because it could be worse – Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, etc.

  56. if the team doesn’t pay him what he is worth then he will move on and test the FA market…
    ——————-

    No he won’t. He will be franchise tagged immediately and forced to play on that.

  57. “I know God’s going to take me and put me where he wants to have me”.

    Didn’t Reggie White say the same thing?

  58. lanham4eve,

    Before I say what I’m about to I will say that I actually know some people inside the building at Seattle.

    I have four comments.

    1. You mention the bad play call. Guess who called the play? The media has no clue yet but it will eventually leak out that Wilson changed the play. I was told by a player IN THE HUDDLE that Wilson thought the run up the middle was predictable and changed it to a pass. He then threw the ball in a bad spot. Had he thrown it a second earlier it likely hits the receiver in stride and is worst case down inside the 1-yard line.

    2. Wilson feels he should be the highest paid QB in the NFL and while you are entitled to your opinion, I’m told by some people in Seattle that the Seahawks share the same opinion of him that I do. He is a good player who they want back and should want back but he is not an elite player. They feel a lot of QBs would do well in their system and that he has been made to look a little bit in their system. They do believe he is a 10-15 range type QB but that there are 15 others in the NFL who could have done at least what he has.

    3. The Seahawks did not win the Super Bowl because Wilson carried them on his back. He had one of the best RBs in the NFL, the best defense in the NFL, and a group of players who all played better offensively because the system made it so they can. Wilson is not the only player on that offense whose considered better because the system has made them look better.

    4. This QB class coming up is much better than last year. The Seahawks could very well draft a couple passers and take a chance to find a player who can run their system.

  59. He isn’t going anywhere. It really isn’t up to him. This tear and next two under franchise tag if he doesn’t get an extension done. My guess is it is more about guarantee percentage and other security issues, than total amount.

  60. He reminds me of an entitled teenager….’God will decide’, maybe he’ll send you to Saskatchewan

  61. Wilson is not elite. He is no Brady that makes average receivers better or a Rodgers that does the same thing. He is a good qb but a tier below those.

  62. “Russell has in fact shown that he can win games on his own when the defense falters. The notion of being able to just plug in another mobile QB and expect comparable results is insane.”

    You may want to rethink that statement.

    Seattle is 0-7 in games when the opponent scores more than 25 pts including 0-2 in the playoffs.

    In the 15 “comeback wins” Wilson gets praised for, the average score of the opponent in those games is 15 pts, which means Seattle wins only because the defense hold the other teams score down while their own offense, led by Wilson, struggles.

    Wilson has had 4 pro bowl pass catchers to throw to, Rice, Harvin, Miller and Tate. All their production went down considerably when joining the seahawks.

    Wilson has had 2 of the worst playoff performances by a qb ever, 2013 NO, 2014 GB, yet in the playoff games they have won he hasn’t been anything more than average.

    Those are facts, you don’t pay a qb top dollar when his whole career has been defined by defense and the running game. Seattle knows this, that’s why they haven’t paid the man yet. They know it’s a system, and there are a lot of qb’s who can win in that system.

  63. Wilson led his team to 2 straight superbowls. Won one of them. Can be counted on no matter how big a game.Gets grief from team for new contract. All kinds of excuses made.Defense did it, if team breaks the bank can’t afford anyone else.Blah,Blah. Flacco, Rodgers, Romo, Ryan, their teams afforded players after they anted up. Than Mr. Luck, it’s known he’s going to break bank at his contract time.He of the 2 game 7 interception playoff performance 2 years ago.The 45-7 rout this year.4 games against Patriots 4 routs. My solution, if you don’t want to pay him, trade him. Or just let him leave in free agency. For a 2 appearance super bowl quarterback to have to go through this is embarrassing.

  64. The comments and digs here, regarding Mr. Wilson are telling. First, you have fans of fantasy-football and some Seattle fans who never liked Russell Wilson and never will, so they resent him expecting a top 5 QB’s contract, but the results over the last three years speak for themselves. They think Seattle made Mr. Wilson good and not the other way around, which is a sign that they don’t remember how bad the Seahawks were before he got there. Then you have some fans of other teams, who desperately needs a top tier QB. They keep critiquing his skills->(his height), in hopes that the Seahawks will do something crazy like trading him, or letting him walk. And finally you have all the rest, who color Seattle foolish for even messing around with this, by not “SHOWING HIM THE MONEY”. I’m in that last group. Don’t be dumb Seattle, “SHOW Mr. Wilson THE MONEY”

  65. They draft very very very well. But they got lucky with this guy and they will not have access to a high draft pick QB for at least a few years.
    Do not screw around with this player. He can carry you well past the tsunami of retiring QB HOFers that is coming in the next few years.

  66. not sure what the hold up is with contract talks for a QB who is one of the faces of the franchise and who would be an asset to any nfl organization…pretty sure both sides will come to an agreement and he will remain with the Seahawks. only time will tell

  67. Wishful thinking if you think he’s going anywhere. He’ll be signed by September. Write it down. You act like you’ve never seen this game before. Happens every year and will happen again.

  68. @cfbfan2013, your Seahawks FO are classless for jerking RW around. If they don’t want to pay him, why don’t they release him so he can get paid by other teams? You seem to forget your Hawks were 7-9 for two years before RW. You guys were so desperate that you gave 26M to a backup QB who played one great game that didn’t matter (M Flynn). John Schneider is a classless JERK

  69. Wilson is good QB because he has a STUD defense & SOLID role players on offense. Put him on the Bucs, Browns , raiders & he is below average QB.

  70. No way in hell Seattle is letting go Russel Wilson. They will pay him. Probably not the amount RW would want but they will most likely raise the guaranteed money.

    I agree that he’s doesn’t have one the best arm in the NFL nor the most accurate but he’s got what makes NFL QBs great : Leadership, poise and intangibles plus he’s a great runner. You can’t learn this. He’s got it.

    Pay him, he deserves the money.

  71. “They call me the breeze, I keep blowin’ down the road.”

    “I can even go back to single A and bat .220 for the Sequim Saltlickers”.

  72. No reason to sign until he becomes a free agent unless they give him an offer he can’t refuse. He should get paid while he can. He’s not going to get any better than he is now and this is his chance.

  73. Hardcore Hawk Fan here too..

    Aside from the likes of Flacco/Dilfer & Brad Johnson, SB’s are in fact won with top tier QB’s over the past 25 yrs. Yes, those 3 examples of SB winning QB’s had all-time great Defenses on their side mush like our “D” but the stone cold reality is that the Hawks can’t expect the defense to carry the load year after year without losing a step or two.

    _______________

    Ravens had the 18th ranked D in 2012. But, don’t let that get in the way of your soapbox.

  74. I don’t understand the hold up. He’s quarterbacked an offense to back to back superbowl appearances, one they won, another they should have won.

    Pay up.

  75. Considering the worst decision ever made by a QB in SB history was by Wilson while playing for SEA, maybe a change is for the best.

  76. how many Quarterbacks in the History of the NFL have thrown an INT to lose the game last minute?

    ONE

    Russel Wilson

    keep on chasing those Records Russ

  77. Wilson is a good qb not elite but good. That being said he needs to lower the amount of money that he wants to get paid because without Lynch and the Legion of Boom Wilson doesn’t have anything to lean back on. The only reason the Seahawks got to the Super Bowl in the first place was because the defense held Aaron Rodgers off from scoring so much as Wilson threw 5 picks and because Lynch carried the load while Wilson kept throwing crappy pass after crappy pass. If Wilson wants to get paid fine but just make sure it is a reasonable amount because he’s not the main anchor on that offense Lynch is.

  78. adelphos33 says:
    Jun 22, 2015 5:51 PM

    …Seattle will pay him Top 5 money or someone else will.
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    This.

    This is the bottom line. There is a dearth of good/great QBs in the league–only a handful. Getting one of them for your team is like finding the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

    There are plenty of teams who would pay him what he wants.

  79. What’s the problem… the great philosopher JT Money said it best…” The way you show me your love is by the way you pay me” and clearly there is a lot of love for Russell so pay the Man… as of right now he is a Top 5 QB and should be delta with as such… Indeed…

  80. I can’t think of a QB who won a SB after signing his $100M contract except Brady. Teams should think twice about forking over those big bucks for one player.

  81. zuzus petals says:
    Jun 22, 2015 5:42 PM
    Because if they pay him what he’s worth they have to blow up the team…. tough to let go of that until they absolutely have to…. Hopefully he’s more a Tom Brady than a Peyton Manning or Drew Brees. Rings or records Russell, your choice.
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    He’s 26, he’s got two NFC Championship rings and a SB ring.

    He’s doing just fine. He can lead a lot of other teams to the SB.

  82. nineball26 says:
    Jun 23, 2015 10:08 AM
    how many Quarterbacks in the History of the NFL have thrown an INT to lose the game last minute?

    Keep going for those records

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    1) Wasn’t his call
    2) Lockette was not aggressive going for the ball
    3) It was a GREAT defensive play, might be the best Butler will EVER make

    Wilson DOES have a lot of records, most games won in his 1st three years, only QB in NFL history to pass for 300yds and run for 100yds in the same game…

    Most comebacks in first 3 years, most game winning drives in first three years…

    He holds the NFL record for rookie PASSING yards in a playoff game, when he brought Seattle back from down 20 in the middle of the 4th Qtr to take the lead with 30 seconds left.

    It was the vaunted Seattle defense that lost the game, couldn’t prevent a Falcons field goal with 30 seconds left.

    etc etc etc

  83. unkleruckus says:
    Jun 23, 2015 10:01 AM
    Wilson has a ring. Romo, stafford, luck, Newton don’t . And they all have much better weapons
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    And an actual OL. If Wilson had an OL he wouldn’t have to scramble so much.

    Wilson holds the NCAA record for passer rating, 191.8. He passed for 33 touchdowns with only 4 interceptions, with a 72% completion rate.

    But Wisconsin had an actual OL

  84. if the team doesn’t pay him what he is worth then he will move on and test the FA market…
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    No he won’t. He will be franchise tagged immediately and forced to play on that.

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    Franchise tag will be around $24 million next year, 2nd use of franchise tag calls for 20% raise taking it up to $29 mill. After that it would go up to $44 million, which isn’t happening

    So he’ll make $18 million a year avg over next 3 years, and be a free agent at the height of his career. Bidding starts at $25 million per

  85. Jun 22, 2015 9:11 PM
    Wilson has mismanaged the whole process. He had a horrible CG, and then of course, the disastrous final play against the Pats. Should have played it cool; instead he started threatening the Hawks and suggesting he would go play baseball. I think negotiations sputtered right after that. An owner is not going to invest a huge contract in someone who could get injured, while screwing around, playing baseball.

    I guess it’s a little karma, too. He dumps his high school sweetheart wife, right before the projected big payday.

    My advice to Hawks, play the guy out through next year under current contract, and play it by ear.

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    wrong on all counts, he didn’t “dump his highschool sweetheart,” she was cheating on him.

    Last play wasn’t his fault, wasn’t his choice, Lockette lollygagged going for the ball, Butler made a great play.

    Wilson has more game winning drives in his first three years than any other QB, and he’s done that without an offensive line, and without a single decent receiver.

    Put him on the Cowboys, he’ll do better than Romo

  86. All this guy does is win and represent his team/city well.They just dont want to pay the man the dough he deserves.Let them have a great “stat” QB like Romo or Ryan and see where that gets them-which is where they have gotten their respective teams-no where!

  87. He’s a nice little quarterback, but he’s not the best quarterback in football, and that’s how he wants to be paid.

    He’s proven he can win with a great team around him, and that makes him valuable. I’d definitely offer him top 10 money, and I’m sure the Seahawks have.

    It’s shame it can’t be worked out reasonably on both sides. Right now Russell is not being reasonable, he’s pouting.

  88. If Wilson does not sign this year, he will never make up the difference in lost $millions no matter where he ends up.

    It all comes down to RW’s agent. The guy submitted a 16 page status report to the Seahawks, so you know it is all about justifying the biggest payday imaginable.

    Wilson knows he will get paid sometime, somewhere. So he is content to let the chips fall as they may. Clearly, Plan A is to sign him. Plan B, which fans hate to contemplate, is that everyone can be replaced.

  89. I agree with the defense first guys. Only Super Bowl the Hawks have won they did it by holding a HOF QB to single TD pass. Wilson sure seems like a great guy but he’s a game manager plain and simple.

  90. I love the hypocrisy of Hawks fans,

    During the regular season: “Our wideouts are just as good as anybody else’s”

    During Wilson’s contract dispute: “Man our wideouts suck, Wilson is worth the mega contract if we get better receivers”

  91. I love the hypocrisy of Hawks fans,

    During the regular season: “Our wideouts are just as good as anybody else’s”

    During Wilson’s contract dispute: “Man our wideouts suck, Wilson is worth the mega contract if we get better receivers”

  92. Top five QBs:
    1. Clutchel Wilson
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Big Ben Roethslisberger
    4. Peyton Manning
    5. Tom Brady

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    If Wilson had the same offensive weapons that Rodgers, BenRo, Peyton and Brady have had then Wilson would be a top 5 QB no question.

    Now, with Graham, we will see what Wilson can do. But, until now all he has had to throw to is a group of WR2 and WR3’s who can’t get separation and don’t have any height advantages. He has had to throw with pin point accuracy just to achieve the results that he has.

    If Wilson had been throwing to ANY of these groups, Cobb/Nelson, Brown/Sanders/Miller, Demarius Thomas/Julius Thomas/Welker, Gronk/Edelman/LaFell….his numbers would be at least 20% better…and their dependency on Lynch wouldn’t be as great.

    It’s not Wilson’s fault that they have the weapons they do…but look what he has done with what he has.

  93. The Almighty Cabbage says: Jun 22, 2015 7:59 PM

    Without Wilson, the ‘Hawks would not have even been in the SB. GB choked, but when it came right down to it, Wilson had to make big play after big play after big play to pull it off… and he did. I don’t think any other QB would have gotten it done, including Brady, Manning, Rodgers, or anybody else. It was a performances for the ages.
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    Really? I recall that Aaron easily march down the field to setup the game tying field goal on a bad leg. Yes Green Bay choked but they still put up a fight until the end. Aaron is much better then Russell.

  94. As a rival fan I hope the Seahawks blow it with Wilson as they seem to be doing, so he just ups and leaves in free agency or creates such a divide in the locker room that they are forced to trade him. Another great scenario would be that they are forced to crack open the piggy bank to pay him so much they can’t afford that vaunted defense anymore. Then the so-called 12th man will fade back into obscurity as the bandwagoners jump off.

    That said, Wilson seems like a decent guy and an above average QB who deserves to get paid.

  95. Wilson and his Agent will continue this type of rhetoric up until right before the Season begins, and then a deal will magically get done. They are just trying to wait it out to try and improve their leverage and maybe ring a couple more bucks out of the Seahawks. They would be very foolish to walk away from the offer that is reportedly already on the table (4 yrs, $85MM) which would make him the 3rd highest paid QB behind Rodgers & Rapelisberger.

  96. Okay, I am getting sick of Russell Wilson’s goody-two-shoes approach to negotiations. He may be a “good guy” but he is also tone deaf.
    Bringing God into the negotiations is bogus and arrogant. I consider John Schneider as devout a Christian as Russell Wilson, but I don’t see him constantly flaunting his faith in public.

    If “Pride cometh before the fall” Russell Wilson is in for a big surprise (especially if he hangs around with femme fatales) at how quickly this can turn on him.

    We’ve all seen this movie before Russell; so yu aren’t ‘that’ special.

  97. Buffalo is looking for a QB that has a higher ceiling… How about a Dareus/Manuel for Wilson trade Seattle? We already have a guy that can step up and at least cover 75% of what Dareus brings to the table, so how about it Seattle?

  98. EJ says:
    Jun 23, 2015 3:11 PM
    Buffalo is looking for a QB that has a higher ceiling… How about a Dareus/Manuel for Wilson trade Seattle? We already have a guy that can step up and at least cover 75% of what Dareus brings to the table, so how about it Seattle?
    …………………
    Oh my God man. Im a Bills fan, but come on. The Seahawks have an immaculate defense already. They don’t need Dareus. They would essentially be trading Manuel for Wilson, which is feasible in no world.

  99. Regardless of where God wants you, I’m pretty sure you’re staying in Seattle, thanks to a little thing called the Franchise Tag, which is more powerful than anything or anyone – other than Roger Goodell, of course.

  100. coltsblue says:
    Jun 23, 2015 1:24 PM

    I love the hypocrisy of Hawk other, jealous fans,

    During the regular season: “Our wideouts are just as good as anybody else’s” terrible

    During Wilson’s contract dispute: “Man our wideouts suck are All Pro, Wilson is worth the mega contract nothing if we get because there are no better receivers”

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    Fixed

    PS – Luck Sucks

  101. realitycheckbaby says:
    Jun 22, 2015 8:28 PM
    Buffalo has less cap space than Seattle.

    Not sure who is going to make this great offer because they’re a QB away
    ………………….
    Restructuring contracts is a beautiful thing. It’s why LeSean McCoy and Jerry Hughes will combine to make close to 20 million while hitting the cap for not even 1/3 of that.

  102. This is all noise in an effort to gain leverage. Russell Wilson will still be a Seattle Seahawk when his next contract is signed.

  103. iloveagoodnap says:
    Jun 23, 2015 3:58 PM

    realitycheckbaby says:
    Jun 22, 2015 8:28 PM
    Buffalo has less cap space than Seattle.

    Not sure who is going to make this great offer because they’re a QB away
    ………………….
    Restructuring contracts is a beautiful thing. It’s why LeSean McCoy and Jerry Hughes will combine to make close to 20 million while hitting the cap for not even 1/3 of that.

    ——————————————-

    Sooo, Seattle can’t also restructure? The fact is the Bills have less room than the Hawks so it will be difficult to “price out” the Hawks.

    In reality, Philly is about the only team with the need and the space.

  104. To franchise tag him next season would be 27 million. The year after would be even more. He is not worth that. The Seahawks will not make that mistake. Maybe tag him but NOT exclusively. The funny part will be when no good teams call on him.

  105. Speaking as a Bills dan, I am thrilled my team just sunk extra money into a running back and a tight end not named Anthony Gonzalez circa 2000.

    For context I like having Clay but thought he was too expensive, and I think the McCoy deal was ill-advised.

  106. If Tannehill is getting paid almost $20 million a year I guarantee Wilson wants at least $25 million. I hope they pay him absurd money because then the talent around him will crumble under the cap. He deserves it but no way they can keep him and all the talent around him at that price. If he’s non exclusive franchise tagged, some team with loads of cap room will scoop him up and he’s gone because the Seahawks won’t be able to match

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