Despite denial from NFL, memo from league mentions four-hour window

Since we’re all bored while we wait for today’s #DeflateGate appeal hearing to wrap up, it seems like as good a time as any for firing shots.

After league spokesman Greg Aiello refuted ESPN reporter Adam Scheffer’s report that Tom Brady had a four-hour limit in today’s hearing, Schefter broke out the big gun, or at least a smoking one.

Schefter tweeted out a photo of the memo from NFL attorney Gregg Levy to NFLPA attorney Jeffrey Kessler, which lays out the ground rules for today’s meeting.

The letter says commissioner Roger Goodell planned to open the meeting at 9:30 a.m. and conclude it by 5:30 p.m., and spelled out the schedule.

“Because the player has the burden, he will present first and have the large majority of the allotted time; up to four hours (including any opening statement) which he may allocate between his affirmative case and rebuttal as he sees fit.”

So while the league may contend it’s not as much of a hard deadline, it’s a pretty explicit suggestion.

We’ll now stand back and see if Aiello removes his glove and smacks Schefter with it, challenging him to a duel.

86 responses to “Despite denial from NFL, memo from league mentions four-hour window

  1. Did Brady ask for, or was he denied the right to use more time, or is this just another BS detail that means nothing at all?

  2. The NFL begins the hearing with an outright lie….they just can’t help themselves..Buffoons of the highest order.

  3. NFL is unreal. They are making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. Wow. This is incredible. Now let Tom Brady go you witch hunt supporting freaks!

  4. The NFL is so dishonest. Because it’s the Patriots people are wilfully ignoring what the NFL is actually doing, but the amount of lies, contradictions, and malicious incorrect (and uncorrected) leaks is genuinely disturbing.

  5. Does the NFL under Goodell do anything but lie?

    Lie to ESPN about the level of deflation (2 lbs. under legal limit when that was false); Lie about knowing about Colts allegation before game (Blandino). Lie in letter to Patriots about level of deflation.; Lie now about time limit.

    Nothing but LIES, LIES, LIES. What an utterly corrupt organization that NFL has become under Goodell.

  6. False and contradictory statements by the league office? I just escaped from a cave where I’ve been trapped for the last 10 years, so I find this shocking!

  7. The NFL didn’t do anything to correct the initial statement on the 11 out of the 12 footballs, why should they stop with the misinformation now?

    Brady will get justice in a Trial by Combat.

  8. “Because the player has the burden….”

    Imagine what this will sound like when a U.S. Judge declares ‘Goodell, Well$ & the NFL has a burden to prove their case..’

    I hope Kessel shows NO MERCY in his Brief/Litigation to the Judge.

    This is BRADY in the 4th Quarter behind by 3 with the Rule 17 Football in his hand.

  9. Who cares. Finish one appeal before starting others. Still no word on what is happening to Hardy, though that appeal was heard weeks ago.

  10. Shady and his team of lawyers need more time to finish their web of lies.

  11. The league lied about something so minor as a time limit. They also lied about the amount the PSI went lower twice. 1) the leak to Mortenson, 2) the letter to the Patriots in the beginning of this mess.
    How can anybody trust this league office?

  12. I love football, but BOY do I hate the NFL… That corruption of this league really does contend with that of FIFA!!!

  13. The League does look like a bunch of clownshoes most of the time. They can’t even be honest or agree about a 4 hour time frame that was issued.

  14. When Goodell talks about “Upholding the Integrity of the Shield” it really means try to make others look guilty so that people can’t see that the NFL is led by a bunch of liars and cheaters.

  15. So weird how quickly the NFL will try to refute a report that is actually true, and yet let the “2 PSI under league minimum” report float out there for FOUR MONTHS and not allow the Patriots to refute it. Pathetic.

  16. russrpm says:
    Jun 23, 2015 3:42 PM
    Did Brady ask for, or was he denied the right to use more time, or is this just another BS detail that means nothing at all?

    ******************************************

    No this is just another detail that the NFL is lying about.

  17. As much as I loath ESPN and their style of not letting facts get in their way, when it comes to telling the truth, Goodell and his cronies are worse. This story is a case of the kettle calling the pot black. It least this time ESPN has facts and it appears is telling the truth. Goodell and his cronies – not so much.

  18. Perfect pic for this whole debacle…

    Brady is going to pull the ole Bugs Bunny trick:

    I didn’t do it

    Yes you did

    No I didn’t

    Yes you did

    Yes I did

    No you didn’t

    And Brady just walks away while Goodell stands in a closet full of TNT.

  19. Did they also make it a rule that Brady can only speak Latin while standing on one foot at this hearing? This isn’t just a kangaroo court. This is like an old soviet style show trial.

  20. They didn’t need 4 hours – Here is what the walls said:

    Goodell : Tom, You know I have you in a corner and so the only smart thing is to accept & say “I really misunderstood the Rules and I apologize to Jim Harbawling & the Donkeys.” “Please forgive me and I accept the Gracious Goodell reducing my suspension to 1 game.”

    Brady : Did you see the bumper stickers on my wife’s SUV? The one on the left says: ‘SB Rings 4 and Counting’ the one on the right says: 4th Quarter Driving – PERFECT’ and the one in the middle says: It’s SCIENCE Dummy

    Well$ : Have you read MY Report Mr.Shady – HUH – HAVE YOU ?

    Brady : No, I don’t read the comics. But Mr. Kessel likes humor and he laughs every time your name/report comes up.

    Goodell : OK, Smart Guy – Supsension UPHELD.

    Brady : Really – REALLY – GREAT, You are doing a great job here Commish. SEE YOU LATER !!!

    Well$ : Tom , before you go, MY Report has been proven you know.

    Brady : Is that ‘More Probable than Not’ or is it ‘NO WHERE EVEN CLOSE’ – LOL

    Brady : Like I said – Bumper Stickers

    Well$ : Anything to say Kessel ?

    Kessel : I could not of said it any better myself – But I know that the U.S. Judge will.

  21. You can moan and complain, but Kraft endorsed ALL OF THIS WHEN GOODALL DOING THIS TO THE OTHER TEAMS!!

    So you can’t complain now that Goodall’s fury is directed at you..his main drinking buddies team.

    You just can’t. The same things that Kraft was laughing about and endorsing are the same things that have him now crying.

    Stop being hypocritical Patriots fans and take the punishment like the other teams have.

  22. And Goodell has the nerve to talk about the integrity of the game and the integrity of the NFL. Gimme a break King Liar.

    Lmao. The NFL always tries to deny deny deny until they get smacked right in the face by their constant lies.

    The people that run the NFL, Goodell, Aiello, Pash, Harold Henderson, and Blandino all need to be thrown in prison for blatant corruption

  23. When this whole deflated balls thing started I thought maybe something was up…ESPN/Mortenson come up with 11 out of 12 NE balls are 2psi below league minimum…and on and on…

    Now I’m starting to believe the NE side…I’ve read the Wells Report twice, AEI twice and the latest from Science News…

    The NFL is like s ship without a rudder…aimlessly sailing on to nowhere.

  24. Goodell and Co. lie about the small things and they lie about the big things.
    Embarrassing!!!

  25. If Goodell consistently treated other teams like this, you might have a point. I have been exhaustively shown that this is NOT the case. I am sick of him picking victims like the Patriots or the Saints, instead of establishing a rational and consistent set of standards and punishments.

  26. I really hope this goes to a real court, and watch both sides get slapped around. The NFL for their shoddy handling of everything, from the start. And Brady for not handing over the phone if he is not guilty, and also the Patriots for not making the ball boy available for follow up questions, and suspending them if they did nothing wrong. This is such a freaking embarrassment for the whole league.

  27. Should emphasis be on getting it right or getting it done quick?

    Of course, for the NFL getting it right means admitting they were wrong (as proven by science) so they really have no motivation to get it right.

    Goodell played the “we got it wrong” card last year with Rice. If forced to play this card again it becomes his legacy.

    Time to face facts Roger, you are in the deepest water of all involved in this debacle.

  28. Repeat after me Deflatriots fans: THIS WILL NEVER GET TO COURT.

    There is no way Belicheat and Kraft are going to testify in open court when they won’t even show up in person to defend the GOAT in an appeal hearing.

    That should tell you all you need to know about Brady’s guilt or innocence and how much the team knew about his antics.

  29. The league lies with no repercussions. What a joke–where is the integrity that Goodell often speaks of? This hearing is a sham and a big waste of time–the result has been predetermined.

  30. Here’s a question….
    Who is more shady, Roger Goodell or the man who vouched for his reputation and job consideration (Robert Kraft) ?

  31. At the next owners meeting they need to change the NFL’s name to the NIL….No Integrity League. But they’ll keep Goodell….he’s already an established liar therefore the perfect patsy to run the NIL.

  32. Tinfoil hat time:

    This is all predetermined. Thursday was picked to go up against the NBA draft to get more coverage. All smoke and mirrors.

    Pathetics tinfoil hat time:

    Sting / witch hunt / kangaroo court yada yada.

  33. “”When Goodell talks about “Upholding the Integrity of the Shield” it really means Expose those who are guilty so that people can see that the Patri*ts are led by a bunch of liars and cheaters.””

    There, fixed that for you! 😄👍🏼

  34. Regardless of what the outcome of this may be, I’ve got to say that I’ve never seen an org (the NFL in this case) step on its collective crack so often as in this past year. Seriously, I’ve never seen such an inept outfit. Do they have any credibility whatsoever?

  35. Even with a document proving the NFL lied the haters still cling to the bird that their team only loses to the patriots due to nefarious reasons

    Fools

  36. The burden should be on the NFL with cold hard facts that Brady cheated. Not some jacked up lie Wells concocted on some stupid texts that prove NOTHING.

    You suspended him for 4 games on a flawed 5 million dollar report and an idiotic interpretation of texts. Those arent facts he cheated. You got nothing NFL.
    Where are YOUR FACTS GOODELL AND WELLS? DO you need me to explain what a FACT is to you 2 liars?

  37. It’s really hard to believe and i thought even harder to do but Roger makes the NFL look worse and worse seemingly every damn day.
    Talk about complete and utter loss of respect from the masses.
    His behind needs to go! He makes Bud Selig (mlb) look like a damn rocket scientist and model of all things moral and upstanding…

  38. Wow the NFL is coming apart at the seems. How the heck does Goodell keep his job after this. The witch hunt on Brady is like expelling a kindergarten kid for using a pen instead of a number two pencil. To many ego’s and sore losers in the NFL offices the Government will step in soon and kick Goodell in the groin

  39. How much time have other players been given to present their appeals? Is 4 hours the standard? Is Brady being given more or less time than others have been allowed? Answer these questions before you decide Brady is being railroaded. Surely, Scheffer has another leaked document hanging around with the answer.

  40. realdealsteel says:
    Jun 23, 2015 4:01 PM
    You can moan and complain, but Kraft endorsed ALL OF THIS WHEN GOODALL DOING THIS TO THE OTHER TEAMS!!

    So you can’t complain now that Goodall’s fury is directed at you..his main drinking buddies team.

    You just can’t. The same things that Kraft was laughing about and endorsing are the same things that have him now crying.

    Stop being hypocritical Patriots fans and take the punishment like the other teams have.

    —————————————————-

    The Patriots team did take the punishment. Kraft did accept the punishment and implicitly endorsed Goodell’s authority to issue it, even while denying any wrong doing. So what on earth are you complaining about?

    This is about Tom Brady (employee) appealing his punishment by the league (employer). It is within his rights as described by the CBA. How is that hypocritical?

  41. The problem with pathalogical liars (NFL Office) is , you can’t keep all the lies straight and you just don’t know how to stop!! Not even for 4 hours!

  42. For your sake, you better hope it was a “witch hunt”. Otherwise fans of 31 other teams will hear millions of simultaneous gunshots coming from the homes of Pat fans.

  43. @seahawkboy
    @5/46 hawk
    @regishawk

    The problem with you nouveau riche Seahawks fans is not that you don’t know how to win, it’s that you don’t know how to lose.

    You thought you were going to reel off 8-10 Super Bowl victories in a row. You spent all last season celebrating your Lombardi Trophy which you believed to be your birthright. Guess what? It doesn’t work that way. The Patriots have the best record over the past 15 years. There’s been many great victories, but also many bitter losses to other playoff caliber teams.

    Try repeating ” We’re on to St Louis” , instead of trying to replay the Super Bowl
    .

  44. insider said brady appeal went very well for brady!!!!! good now brady has beaten every team in the nfl and he has beaten the nfl itself….dude is an assassasin

  45. And another leak…
    SOURCE: “I reached out to someone just recently that had a direct line into that room [where the appeal was being heard], close to Tom Brady. Their feeling was that it went very well this morning, but also an acknowledgement that the NFL holds all the cards here.”

    🙂

  46. Your hero, everyone. Your loyal commissioner who gets caught lying 7 days a week but somehow some way is definitely being honest about Deflategate… at least you’re pretty sure. That Wells Report was really long…

  47. 6ball:

    Not replaying the Super Bowl, or any other game since the day I saw Jim Zorn complete his first pass to Steve Largent in the Kingdome. But if Brady cheated the game (he did) and if the Patriots won games over the years because of it, then it matters and Brady needs get hit hard for it.

    BTW, speaking of “nouveau riche,” best record in the last 3 years? The Seahawks.

  48. Who knew…

    “Because the player has the burden…”

    that proving innocence is the burden, not proving guilt?

    The NFL way, folks!

  49. @seahawkboy

    ” Brady cheated the game”

    Your proof is where? Cite reliable sources.

    Best record in the NFL over the last three years? Really? How many more games did the Seahawks win than the Patriots?

    Btw, the Patriots had AVERAGED over 12 wins per season since 2001. They don’t do 3-13 and 7-9 like the Seahawks.

    You’re a lot like Richard Sherman. Talk like a champion, when in reality, you’re just a runner up.
    .

  50. The whole Deflategate thing is over such a nonsense rule. The QBs can muck up, scrape, or dirty the ball in any way they desire, but the ball must be between 12.5 – 13.5 psi?
    And for sure, nobody on the rules committee ever thought about the effect of PV=nRT.

    Pats and TB12 are also victims of the results of previous rulings and Goodell’s desire to get tough (?).

    To fans of other teams… if this was happening to your team,you too would think it was unfair. This was a witch hunt from the beginning (Colts out to get Pats it appeared) and even if guilty (let’s see what TB says) the punishment was/is WAY overboard. Compare, e.g. the punishment that Falcons got for pumping in crowd noise, or two other teams heating the footballs on cold days…

  51. seahawkboymike says:
    Jun 23, 2015 4:16 PM
    “….There is no way Belicheat and Kraft are going to testify in open court when they won’t even show up in person to defend the GOAT in an appeal hearing.

    That should tell you all you need to know about Brady’s guilt or innocence and how much the team knew about his antics.”
    ==================================
    I’m sure it’s likely that they would have had to received permission from the God ell to attend and I doubt he would have given it.

  52. Just another of the juvenile NFL tactics they have used throughout this entire mess.

    Next, let’s take on who suspended the two staffers from the locker room. Was it the Patriots or the NFL? The Patriots, you say? Then why can’t the Patriots put them back on active duty without the NFL’s approval? The NFL is playing games.

    Or how about the supposed investigation into the conspiracy that led to the measurement of the footballs against the Colts. Goodell: “No problem, Ted Wells is looking into that.” Wells: “I didn’t look into it because there’s nothing there.”

    And don’t even get me started on the thoroughly unprofessional social media campaign the NFL’s online managers have been trolling the Patriots with the last few months. PSI. SMD.

    All of this adds up to an amateur organization led by undisciplined children. You’d think the owners of the league would be disgusted by what is taking place in the league they own.

  53. theflyingelvis says:
    Jun 23, 2015 3:44 PM
    Good God, the NFL can’t get ANYTHING right. I can’t believe that these guys are responsible for a 12 billion dollar business. Scary.

    ———————–

    It’s the old “making money in spite of yourself” business model, which history has shown us time and time again to be unsustainable.

  54. theflyingelvis says:
    Jun 23, 2015 3:44 PM
    Good God, the NFL can’t get ANYTHING right. I can’t believe that these guys are responsible for a 12 billion dollar business. Scary.

    ———————————————

    What’s scarier is that you and I continue to fill their pockets. 😳

  55. “”The problem with you nouveau riche Seahawks fans is not that you don’t know how to win, it’s that you don’t know how to lose.””

    Lmao…. Hahaha – that’s rich – keep it coming denier!!! Lol😄

  56. BTW, speaking of “nouveau riche,” best record in the last 3 years? The Seahawks.
    ===
    Yeah. That’s why he called you the “nouveau riche”.

  57. Did anyone catch the remote from league headquarters featuring Shefty and Sal Pal? Shefty was not taking the company line and Sal Pal was trying to reel him in. The tension was palatable. Something tells me Shefty is about to get the Simmons treatment from the good folks at espn.

  58. According to many Pats fans, TB and his team was supposed to shred the evidence, so shouldn’t they have done less than an hour?

  59. “Brady will get justice in a Trial by Combat.”

    ****

    The NFL chooses….. Eli Manning!

    Seriously though, you guys whining about 4 hours are ridiculous. I could understand complaining if it was 4 hours from the suspension announcement, but he’s had over a month to put together his appeal, it shouldn’t take that long to present it.

    #suspensionupheld

    #goatsayspayupandmoveon

  60. BTW, speaking of “nouveau riche,” best record in the last 3 years? The Seahawks.
    ———————————————————-
    Last 3 seasons Pats 12-4
    12-4
    12-4

    Seahawks 11-5
    13-3
    12-4
    Tied for best record. Guess who beat who in the Super Bowl when they met?

  61. Meanwhile it’s been over 10 hours so isn’t it pretty much a moot point anyway?

    Right. Obviously, the time limit wasn’t set in stone but a general guideline.

  62. The NFL doesn’t even know what’s in it’s own letter that it sent to the NFLPA lawyer. The chances that they got this investigation right are 0%.

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