David Carr explains why younger brother Derek is a better QB

As the first overall pick in the 2002 NFL draft, David Carr was a disappointment. As the second-round pick of the Raiders in the 2014 NFL draft, Derek Carr showed a lot of promise.

David says his younger brother is going to be a better quarterback because Derek has the mental makeup needed, whereas David never got comfortable while trying to be the face of the expansion Houston Texans.

He understands the game more than I did, so his confidence level is just off the charts,” David said on 95.7 The Game. “[His] leadership ability is kind of where I was never at early on in my career. He’s able to go out and get guys that are seven, eight years older than him to actually buy in to what he’s doing, and believe that he can play, and believe that he can go out and lead the team.”

David Carr’s rookie season was brutal, as he was sacked 76 times, fumbled 21 times and threw 15 interceptions. He thinks his little brother always looks more comfortable than he ever was.

“He just has a natural ability to throw the ball, just effortlessly, and it’s not really difficult for him,” David said. “It literally is effortless for him to throw the football.”

The Raiders hope Derek keeps looking as comfortable as he did as a rookie. And they hope they can build a better team around him than Houston ever built around David.

79 responses to “David Carr explains why younger brother Derek is a better QB

  1. Derek looked good at times, but can’t be afraid to throw the ball downfield. A 5.5 yards per attempt average is indicative of a guy who plays it safe. I’m not sure how much protection the offensive line was giving him though

  2. A rookie QB on a first year expansion team is going to have a tougher road than most. I’ve always wondered how David would have done on an established team where he could develop. Not feeling too sorry for him though. I believe he banked $20+ million as a Texan.

  3. And maybe derek isn’t the last guy there and the first one to leave. And maybe he doesn’t bring his daddy to practice with him. ..just sayin’

  4. This is one heck of a scouting report. Hes right too. I was amazed at Derek’s flat out ability to spin a football with top level mechanics. He plays the position like a nuanced veteran. The intangile stuff is there too. I believe Derek Carr to be a level above Teddy B. I wonder if Cleveland regrets passing on this kid.

  5. My girlfriend says David Carr is the best looking football player ever.

    When we’d watch Giants games, she would ask why they don’t play the hot guy.

  6. Yards per attempt is directly effected by yards after catch.. The Raiders were dead last in YAC.. Which goes a long way toward Carrs 5.5 yrds per attenpt.

  7. thank you SO much houston for passing on Teddy!
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    They didn’t really pass on him, they just neglected to trade up for him. Of course, nfl.com said Teddy should have been the first pick of the draft, so in that sense they passed on him.

  8. David Carr in Houston is like Kevin Kolb in Arizona. No one will ever argue they were HOF calibe,r but they’ll always be a “what could have been” had they had a semi-decent o-line

  9. Lowest yds in NFL per pass attempt by over a yard. That’s a good QB. Oh ya he plays for the Raiders! Another 4 win season and there goes the confidence. How does he feel running out to a half empty stadium with tarps up? That can’t help the confidence?

  10. That’s exactly right realraider. Crabtree, Coop, Walford, Helu and (fingers crossed) a healthy Streats should help that.

    Also, let’s not forget how awful the system he ran with Olsen was….just an awful, uncreative system…and that, due to the system, he had literally zero running game.

  11. Yards per attempt is directly effected by yards after catch.. The Raiders were dead last in YAC.. Which goes a long way toward Carrs 5.5 yrds per attenpt.
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    The quarterback affects YAC too. If the QB doesn’t hit the receivers in stride or early enough for them to avoid defenders, they don’t have much of a chance to run after the catch.

  12. David Carr was the victim of the NFL expansion rules. Earlier expansion teams (Jax and Carolina) were gifted too many good players via the expansion draft rules.

    Carolina and Jax proceeded to get to advance into the play-offs in their first few years. NFL owners of teams who couldn’t make the play-offs forced tougher expansion rules for the next expansion draft that included Houston, leading to the Texans having a crap roster.

    Carr had no chance behind the worst line in NFL history, due to the expansion limitations.

  13. Derek Carr is a good Quarterback, and an even better person. This is coming from a Broncos fan. Wish we would have drafted him.

  14. That is what the Deflator’s brother said about the Deflator. He could let the air out of Tom Brady’s ball almost effortlessly in the bathroom – just effortlessly.

  15. say what you want, but not having Schaub as #1 qb this camp, will give Carr a better advantage this spring. Plus on paper this is a much better team. They have improved in every aspect of the team

    say what you want, but on paper this is a better team:

    Offense
    QB-Carr > Schaub/rookie carr
    Wideout-Cooper/Crabtree/Streater > Jones/Moore/Holmes
    RB- Murray/Richardson/Helu > McFadden/ MJD
    OL -Penn/Jackson/Hudson/Barnes(Mathis?)/ Howard > Penn/Jackson/Wiz/Howard/Watson

    Defense
    D-line -Edwards/Williams/Ellis/Tuck > Woodley/Smith/Sims/Tuck
    LB- Mack/ Lofton/ Moore > Mack/Roach/Burris
    DB McGill/TJ Carrie/DJ Hayden > Rogers/Brown
    S- C Wood/ Nate Allen > Branch/ Woodson

    and the biggest differnce is :

    Jack Del Rio >>>>>>>Dennis Allen
    Ken Norton Jr > Jason Tarver
    Musgrave > Olsen

  16. kd75 says:
    Jun 25, 2015 1:35 PM
    My girlfriend says David Carr is the best looking football player ever.

    When we’d watch Giants games, she would ask why they don’t play the hot guy.
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    Unfortunately, I think all of our girlfriends and wives would probably agree lol.

  17. raiderufan says:
    Jun 25, 2015 1:53 PM
    That’s exactly right realraider. Crabtree, Coop, Walford, Helu and (fingers crossed) a healthy Streats should help that.

    Also, let’s not forget how awful the system he ran with Olsen was….just an awful, uncreative system…and that, due to the system, he had literally zero running game.

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    Yeah, Bill Musgrave’s career winning percentage as an offensive coordinator of .193 while being outscored by an average of 20.3 points per game probably isn’t going to be a grand improvement. With a “creative” system that is best known for its ability to fit on a single side of an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper, I have trouble believing that Carr’s talent is going to be maximized.

  18. David Carr never had a chance.

    He had ability – great athlete, great arm, he just got beat up badly and never got his confidence.

    Just goes to show how WB, 1st Round picks, and 1st overall picks are a crapshoot.

    Derek Carr looks like a real deal QB so far. Hopefully they build an O-Line around him to keep him upright.

    In this day and age, with all the rule changes, get a good QB, get a good O-Line to protect him, and some decent receivers that are affordable, you will move the ball and score points. You can do it without superstars at WR.

  19. Seeing David Carr and face of the franchise in the same sentence is breath taking: did he really look that good coming out of Fresno?

  20. Poor guy just got pummeled in Houston. He probably got sacked during this interview, too.

  21. “As the second-round pick of the Raiders in the 2014 NFL draft, Derek Carr showed a lot of promise”………………………a lot more promise than Toronto ever getting an NFL franchise!!! And before you respond Joe, EJ Manuel actually had a better rookie season than Derek Carr. True fact. Carr rating of 76.6 to EJ’s 77.7 and completion percentage, Carr 58.1 to EJ’s 58.8. Only difference was EJ got hurt and only played 10 games while Derek played the full 16 games which I give him credit for. Even last year before EJ got benched in favor of Orton ( I believe because of the pick he threw to JJ Watt and Marone was coaching I believe for his job) EJ had a QB rating in two games of 80.3 and completed 58 percent of his passes with 5 TD’s and 3 INTs…….Bills would of been better off today, just letting him play……….not saying EJ is going to be better than Carr, who knows though. EJ has not really been given the chance. He will start this year for the Bills.

  22. The Raiders’ loses can not be laid on Carr nor are the uninformed complaints that 5.5 yards per completion his fault.

    First, when you have a horrible OL (76 sacks, not counting hurries and knock-downs after pases) and you have poor receivers who don’t run routes correctly or fail to make the correct hot reads, even the Mannings, Brady, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Wilson, Flacco, Brees, and the rest of the non-Super Bowl winning NFL QBs could not win with the offensive personnel the Raiders had last season.

    Second, why the high standards on Carr when Luck, with the vastly superior offensive personnel the Colts have over the Raiders, gets a free pass even though he has not produced any real post-season successes?

  23. I remember going to a Texans vs. Titans game in Nashville back in 2002 and seeing David Carr’s little brother (and family), seated a few rows from us, cheering on Derek. It’s surreal to see the change of roles now.

  24. David Carr was running for his life his rookie year and never recovered. Derek was throwing to practice squad WR’s last year. The Raiders are going to build around Derek and he will be a great QB for them for years to come.

  25. steelerben says: Jun 25, 2015 2:17 PM

    raiderufan says:
    Jun 25, 2015 1:53 PM
    That’s exactly right realraider. Crabtree, Coop, Walford, Helu and (fingers crossed) a healthy Streats should help that.

    Also, let’s not forget how awful the system he ran with Olsen was….just an awful, uncreative system…and that, due to the system, he had literally zero running game.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah, Bill Musgrave’s career winning percentage as an offensive coordinator of .193 while being outscored by an average of 20.3 points per game probably isn’t going to be a grand improvement. With a “creative” system that is best known for its ability to fit on a single side of an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper, I have trouble believing that Carr’s talent is going to be maximized.
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    I think that’s a fair criticism…that said, AP got a total of 4,860 yards in his 3 years with Musgrave while having Ponder, McNabb and Cassell at QB.

    And with Ponder…who never showed the poise Carr did in his rookie year…he got 35 starts, 38 td to 34 int’s, 6,436 yards (183 yards a game) and an average that climbed per year to 6.9 by 2013.

    He also got 967 yards out of Percy Harvin once and was supposed to make chicken salad with the Aromashudo’s and Michael Jenkins of the world. Hell, he got 804 yards out of Greg Jennings and 726 out of Jerome Simpson in 2013.

    I don’t think he’s a homerun hire but he’s a massive upgrade on Olsen.

  26. Gotta love the haters that come out when a Raider article comes up. Every hater on here is a sportswriter. I like how Mark Davis hired a GM, it was going to take 2-3 seasons to get out of the rut that Al made for us with his poor decisions in the last years of his legacy. Experienced head coach and valuable picks is what will get us on the right track. Last year was a tough learning year for Carr. He didn’t have all the key positioned players than some NFL teams have. Laugh at his short yards per throw, he threw close to 3,500 yards 21tds 12ints, had those stats been reversed most laugh even more. But if that was a QB on any other team with those stats you all would talk it up and not down. Improved line and WRs will changed all that. Besides, there are teams that are WAY worse off than we are, yet we get made fun of. We are the team you all love to hate. As far as the NFL and Super Bowls…..Bills fans-your team is 0-4 in SuperBowls, Charger fans-your team is 0-1 in SuperBowls, Panther fans-your team is 0-1 in SuperBowls, Vikings fans-your team has never won a SuperBowl, Chiefs Fans-your team has one in..(wait for it)..1969 and Jets fans-your team has one SuperBowl win…(wait for it)…in 1968!!! And as far as the Seahawk fan in here, your team was irrelevant In the NFL until these two past seasons, in which I’m sure your loyalty became known. It’s amusing to read comments of these fans of teams who haven’t won anything and act like their team always wins, lol, hate on.
    RAIDER NATION!!!

  27. This guy is going to be great. Probably the best QB in the draft. I wish my Vikings would have drafted him instead of Teddy. His upside is just so much higher.

  28. Love the excuses for Carrs poor YPA. The people making them are the same one’s that call Alex Smith a game manager because his YPA is only 7.0 (compared to Carr’s 5.4). SMDH

  29. Derek looked good at times, but can’t be afraid to throw the ball down field. A 5.5 yards per attempt average is indicative of a guy who plays it safe.
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    poooey……..

    First, I’m no damned Raider fan….. But Derek Carr can “Spin it” for damn sure…. At that “Your QB has gotta be a gun slinging, long ball rainbow thrower is a bunch of crap. That is just what the knuckle headed “Ball Watchers” want to see…. And regrettably enough (sometimes) that is what most Oakland fans are….”Big Play Junkies” just like their beloved former owner Al Davis (RIP) was.
    The trouble with young QB’s being forced into becoming “play makers” (the most overused phrase n the NFL) that throws “Big Bombs” is that the sophistication on today’s pass defense scheme’s will bait a young QB into stupid moves if he is pressured outside his box to far. The NFL landscape is littered with dead and smoldering carcases of very talented, smart, promising QB’s who got pushed into their NFL career graves by “Ball Watching Fans” who needed their needle full of “Big Bombs” every week. And if they don’t get um..? This is what you hear and read…..”This QB sux”….. he all “small ball”…. He doesn’t have “IT”…… This guy is “afraid of throwing it down field”…. You can’t win unless you can press the ball “Vertically”…
    Yup…. The “Swan Song” for GOOD QB’s who’s career’s were ended by the moronic fan base they were sentenced to by the NFL Draft. Don’t get me twisted, there are plenty of lousy QB’s who flame out on their very own. But I will say this to Oakland fans. As a Miami fan I couldn’t be more pleased with the deliberate and decidedly positive development of Ryan Tannehill.
    But there are some of those people I have spoken about in the Miami fan base who are still waiting for Dan Marino to walk back through the door that cannot tolerate “DEVELOPMENT”…. Even when the positive, upward effect of it is pounding them in the Jaw like Marven Hagler.
    Ryan Tannehill does not have (at this point) a great long ball. But his short and intermediate range (12 to 25 yards) is off scale. Miami ALMOST allowed Jeff Ireland to stay here for year too long and allow Jeff to FORCE Tannehill to be what he isn’t. Ireland goes out and gets long ball shaggers like Mike (crybaby) Wallace and Brandon Gibson (who is a solid WR but didn’t fit scheme).
    Those guys are history. Last year was RT17’s best year yet. But it was because of just a couple scheme fit guys. I’m happy to say Miami has now surrounded RT17 with WR’s who fit his style of play, not the other way around. Some fans whine… smart ones know that teams who cycle through QB’s like teenage girlfriends go nowhere fast.

    Derek Carr is a damned Good QB…… The best QB Oakland has had in 12 years. Let this guy learn to play and shut up about “Long Balls” and “Play Making”…. Let the guy figure out what those defensive schemes are trying to do to him. If he must compete against 31 D-Co’s AND his own fan base…. You may as well just let him out of his contract now so he gets a chance somewhere else before he is ruined for good.

  30. I’m still baffled, absolutely baffled, at how many people take what was an extremely unimpressive rookie year and liken it to being so much better than any of the other QB’s drafted the last 2 years. He’s significantly better than Geno, yes (and who isn’t?). Aside from that, he’s only marginally better than anyone else taken the last 2 years.

  31. Stop with the “got killed behind a bad offensive line and never recovered” stuff. Jim Plunkett got beaten to a pulp early in his career playing for the Patriots in the 70’s. He went on to lead the Raiders to two Super Bowl titles.

  32. Very mature of David to admit that. He may have failed as a starting QB, but he evolve into one of the better backup QBs in the league when he was with the Giants.

  33. Said it before people and I’ll say it again when comparing Carr to the other QB’s in his class is ridiculous, the talent around him combined with the schedule he played to be able to put up the numbers he did was incredible.

    With that said, I too am not thrilled about the conservative way he played much of the year. Not sure if that was a Greg Olson/Tony Sparano thing or what, but he definitely needs to open it up this year. Fingers crossed!!

  34. Everything he does is a learning experience. They get blown out in the first half…he learned from it. The wheels fall off in the 2nd half…he learned from it.. He throws a pick to end the game….he learned from it. Give me break. I don’t know why he gets a free pass. So he is best rookie qb. Big deal! They all stink this year. His qbr and passer rating is lower than Mcgloins last year with less talent a worst defense, and a worst offensive line and less 1st team reps in off season. And the offense averages about 8 points less than last year. They could have at least started McGloin and then traded him for picks. Carr doesn’t know what open is in the NFL that’s why he checks down 70 percent of his passes

  35. I just looked up David’s career stats. He lasted 11 years in the NFL and got a ring. Remarkable.

  36. He has a positive attitude but on the field he sucks and will never mature. The only time he can score is when the game is ending in a blowout and the other team feels pity for him and they let him get his garbage time stats and td. People see his stats and misinteprate this to him having a ‘decent’ game. In reality, he sucked all game and being the selfish innature qb that he is, saves his stats by padding them at the end of ball games. He constantly throws the ball behind the wrs or late and leaves them vulnerable to a big head, no wonder why they drop so many of his poor passes, wouldn’t anyone when they are set up in a position to get hammered due to the qbs horrible timing and decisions. This guys two step drop back is pathetic also, he cant move out of the pocket and has no mobility either. He is no different or better yet even worse than david carr and the ‘ hes just a rookie’ excuse is getting way too old and dont even start with ‘ his stats are good’ because those are all garbage time stats out of pity for the fellow.

  37. Wow; he takes forever to check-down his receivers and telegraphs his ‘lock’, he is going to bite his own tongue off, time-outs are used to tutor him on the playbook and are never left when needed, he hits what the defense wants him to so, with none of the aforementioned time-outs left, he’ll get whoever they left for him over the middle to keep the clock going, he never actually gift-wraps a turnover, the ‘in-and-out-of-his-hands’ philosophy will NEVER make purchase in his head, he cannot see open field in front of him, there is simply too much to cover. He is a ‘perma-rookie’, he will keep making these same mistakes because his biggest problem is that he is a slow learner. He should have sat out with the clipboard behind McGloin, who will end up coming back to completely kick our tails when a real team realizes the importance of his unrelenting desire to push ahead and win at all costs, you remember, like the Raiders taught the rest of the league before they became irrelevant. Like Schaub.

  38. A fact that always gets lost in the shuffle of David Carr and his bad olines is the fact that he was notorious in Houston for being a 9-5 QB, never willing to put in the number of hours it takes to be successful in the NFL.

    David Carr is a great guy, and even better family man, but he made it no secret his family came first and in he played the wrong position in the NFL for that to work.

  39. Do any of you haters actually watch the Raiders? With all the “love” you give us I would hope so. Going by just numbers doesnt even give you an ounce of what this kid can do. His #1 receiver was the 3rd receiver in Green Bay. His top receiver was lost in week 3 and he’s undrafted out of Temple. He also had no running game. Yet the kid still threw for 21 TD’s and only 12 Int’s. Go back and watch him against the Niners and the Bills. This kid will be a top QB in the 3-4 years at the most. Keep on hating.

  40. No talent around him, no running game, 2 coaches in one season. The opposing defense would pin their ears back due to lack of running game and go after him yet he avoided many sacks and threw a descent amount of total yards vs int. Its a joke to compare him to Dishwater at this stage. Give them both a few seasons then lets compare.

  41. ariani1985 says:
    Jun 25, 2015 2:45 PM

    This guy is going to be great. Probably the best QB in the draft. I wish my Vikings would have drafted him instead of Teddy. His upside is just so much higher.

    ===========================

    I don’t agree his upside is any higher than Bridgewater – but then again you and I know almost nothing about being able to judge that with any merit… so only time will tell!

  42. The Texans ruined Davi Carr. Manning, Brady, Rodgers, or Brees *might* have been able to move the offense a bit on that team but no QB could succeed behind that minor league offensive line and receivers.

  43. Thoughtful comments by David. The game was never easy or intuitive for David. Houston picked him because of his athleticism and fitness. I remember a Houston coach being impressed with David’s ability to squat huge amounts yet never heard him praised for understanding how to play QB position.

  44. Shame David played behind such an atrocious line. He saw ghosts after that and was never the same. Some qbs should sit, watch, and learn while a team builds itself.

  45. Not to say David Carr was a good QB, but Tom Brady wouldn’t have done any better with that horrible Houston team. I’m sure some high schools had better offensive lines.

  46. kcchefs58 says:
    Jun 25, 2015 2:06 PM
    “He’s not elite, so he sucks”

    -typical sports fan
    __________________

    I’m sure Andy Dalton agrees with this statement. 40-23-1 record as starter, 85.2 career passer rating, yet everyone says he’s garbage because he hasn’t won a playoff game yet. Maybe that could have something to do with the fact he plays for Marvin Lewis?

  47. A lot of Carr’s 76 sacks came because he rolled out to the right and ran out o bounds behind the line of scrimmage thus a sack. Watch film of he 5th game of his 1st year and the 5th game of his 4th year. Same thing he never learned if you can’t read the defense and know where the ball should be thrown and you can’t run.. THROWN IT OUT OF BOUNDS!!!!!

  48. humb0lt says:
    Jun 25, 2015 3:40 PM

    JaMarcus Russell > either Carr brother.

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    And either Carr brother > the Dan Fouts early in Fouts’ career

    Which means that by transitivity JaBustus was > the ‘great’ Dan Fouts. I have to think that the selection committee must’ve put a mediocrity like Danny in the HOF out of pity for the Bolts.

  49. I know some of my fellow Raider fans are going off the deep end in their praise of Carr, but I think some of you on the other side of the debate are going off the deep end in your pessimism. With all the things that went wrong last season, we shouldn’t read too much into stats either way. We have a much better coaching staff now and we’ve improved the overall talent level on the team. Let’s see how he develops the next two seasons before declaring him to be a bust or declaring him to be our savior.

  50. Car’s receivers got zero separation last year. Can’t base an opinion off the stats here. You really had to watch him and follow the team to appreciate how good he’s going to be.
    If Manning fades, Raiders could definitely win the division this year. Great dark horse pick.

  51. One more note to think about if comparing Teddy with Derek..The Vikings gave up a second round and fourth round pick to select Teddy in the end of the first round. The Raiders simply waited for Derek to come to them. By that fact, Teddy should be motivated to play better than Carr but only time will tell.

  52. He wasn’t a bust – Houston destroyed him. The Giants QB coach said he flinched every time he snapped the ball after the beating he took in Houston…

  53. Jun 25, 2015 2:09 PM – Bizzareslantpass says: Derek Carr is a good Quarterback, and an even better person. This is coming from a Broncos fan. Wish we would have drafted him.

    You’re going to really wish that when Brock Rottweiler takes the field!

  54. If Derek Carr is so good, why did he start 0-10, finish 3-13 and help the Raiders have their single worst season in this decade+ long slump they’re having? They had a -199 point differential, for crying out loud!

  55. The Raiders still have a problem: it’s called the Offensive Line. If you look at New England their strength has been their OL. Brady has been great because of the OL. Switch David Carr to NE and Brady to Houston circa 2002/2003, Brady would not be in the league today.

    When you hear terms like patchwork when talking about an offensive line, that team has problems. For the Raiders, they have two guys on the line that are good, two that are mediocre and a doorman (Barnes). They flipped good centers, but there are still 4 other positions. The run blocking last season was attrocious. The defenses knew it, and the Raider coaches knew it (it’s been the same the last 3 or 4 years). Raider management has not dealt with the OL. If the Raiders are to get better, there needs to be less Reggie MacK making decisions about the OL, and more of someone who is a better evaluator/scout of talent, and guys who can play with eachother. The OL is a team.

  56. natelan says:
    Jun 26, 2015 5:35 AM

    If Derek Carr is so good, why did he start 0-10, finish 3-13 and help the Raiders have their single worst season in this decade+ long slump they’re having? They had a -199 point differential, for crying out loud!
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    I’m not sold on Carr. I didn’t expect a rookie to come in and lead a bad team to the playoffs, or even finish with a winning record, which seems to be the high-water mark for Charger fans, but he could have moved the ball a lot better than he did last season. He has better receivers this year, at least on paper, and if they can put a decent running game around him, we will know fairly soon if the kid is going to be a player.
    Oakland went 2-14 in 2006, so last year wasn’t their worst in this slump.

  57. ariani1985 says:
    Jun 25, 2015 2:45 PM
    This guy is going to be great. Probably the best QB in the draft. I wish my Vikings would have drafted him instead of Teddy. His upside is just so much higher.

    I’ve seen you multiple times now hate on your QBOTF, basing your hate off of very little information. I don’t know any fan who rips on his own team as much as you do.. it’s embarrassing. You should just rename yourself to arianil985.. you guys both seem to dog on Vikes players a lot. Embarrassing.

  58. ariani1985 says:
    Jun 25, 2015 2:45 PM
    This guy is going to be great. Probably the best QB in the draft. I wish my Vikings would have drafted him instead of Teddy. His upside is just so much higher.

    Also thought I should mention- You are one of few people that gives Vikes fans a bad name with all your trash talk on the Pack sites. Almost as bad as PFT poet.. a disgrace nonetheless.

  59. raiderapologist says:
    Jun 26, 2015 4:08 PM
    natelan says:
    Jun 26, 2015 5:35 AM

    If Derek Carr is so good, why did he start 0-10, finish 3-13 and help the Raiders have their single worst season in this decade+ long slump they’re having? They had a -199 point differential, for crying out loud!
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    I’m not sold on Carr. I didn’t expect a rookie to come in and lead a bad team to the playoffs, or even finish with a winning record, which seems to be the high-water mark for Charger fans, but he could have moved the ball a lot better than he did last season. He has better receivers this year, at least on paper, and if they can put a decent running game around him, we will know fairly soon if the kid is going to be a player.
    Oakland went 2-14 in 2006, so last year wasn’t their worst in this slump.
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    You may have had one fewer win in 2006, but your point differential in 2006 was -164 compared to -199 last year. That means you were actually much closer to winning a few more games in 2006 than you were last year.

    But I guess we’re splitting hairs… 2 wins, 3 wins, -164, -199… You’re just a really, really, really bad team… Like, historically bad.

  60. natelan says:
    Jun 27, 2015 2:30 AM

    But I guess we’re splitting hairs… 2 wins, 3 wins, -164, -199… You’re just a really, really, really bad team… Like, historically bad
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    And the Chargers are historically inept. One championship sniff in the past 49 years.

  61. Point differential isn’t the QB’s fault……

    I think Peyton was 3-13 his first year as well….

    I like Carr…I think his brother was punch drunk after his first 2 years…

  62. I’m a Vikings fan, and I’m very excited about Teddy Bridgewater’s potential. At the same time, I can say that I think Derek Carr will also become a very good QB in this league. He has all the tools needed to succeed. It will take some time, but if the Raiders can continue to put an improved supporting cast around him, he should do very well before he is done.

    We can compare these two QB’s forever based on just their rookie year, but let’s hope that in a few years we will be able to compare how they play against each other’s team in a Super Bowl!

  63. David Carr IMO is still a starting QB in the NFL just nobody will give him a chance. This guy was getting sacked as soon as he snapped the ball but when his O line gave him more than 3 seconds to throw he had pretty good numbers. It’s a shame this guy can’t find a team that will even give him a shot. I remember when he played for The GIANTS in Preseason he was lights out. He looked like Montana.. He is better than Eli Manning that’s for sure..

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