NFL considers temporarily moving L.A. team to 27,000-seat stadium

In the search for a temporary home for a future Los Angeles franchise, the NFL may go small. Really small.

Among the stadiums under consideration if the NFL moves a team to Los Angeles next season is the StubHub Center in Carson, according to NFL.com. The StubHub Center, home of the L.A. Galaxy of Major League Soccer, seats 27,000 people.

That would mean the NFL’s Los Angeles team (whether it’s the Rams, Raiders or Chargers) would be playing in by far the smallest stadium in the NFL. The smallest current NFL seating capacity also belongs to a team in a temporary stadium, the Vikings, who are using the University of Minnesota’s TCF Bank Stadium while they get their own stadium built. But while TCF Bank Stadium is tiny by NFL standards, its capacity of 52,525 is nearly double that of the StubHub Center.

Other temporary stadiums under consideration are the Rose Bowl (where UCLA plays), the L.A. Coliseum (where USC plays) and Major League Baseball’s Dodger Stadium and Angel Stadium. All of those are much larger than the StubHub Center, but all of them might also have scheduling conflicts with an NFL team.

It seems hard to believe that the NFL would move into a stadium as tiny as the StubHub Center, even for one season. But at least they can be confident they’d sell out. That’s not the case in St. Louis, Oakland or San Diego.

81 responses to “NFL considers temporarily moving L.A. team to 27,000-seat stadium

  1. Any of those teams will obviously sell out. Problem is tickets would go for minimum $250 for the worst seat in the house. Meaning most real NFL fans couldn’t afford to go to more than a couple games that season or two.
    Hottest ticket in Southern California.

  2. Let’s not forget…these teams are free to post winning records. That’s a sure way to get people to show. But none of them are very good at that…hence the need to switch cities.

  3. I live in LA and like it but WHY ARE TEAMS SO OBSESSED WITH MOVING HERE? It’s never worked before and there’s no reason to think it’ll work now.

  4. Small stadium, would accommodate small crowds and alleviate a PR disaster if the new team didn’t sellout a much larger arena.

  5. At least the StubHub Center is a nice, new stadium. The Rose Bowl and the Coliseum both run college teams on Saturdays, leaving the NFL team with a tore-up field on Sundays. At least the StubHub Center would offer a chance of better turf.

    Of course, it’s not like the NFL actually cares about turf conditions. I love the Bears (my dad’s team), but man, that turf is ugly. And don’t even get me started on that hovel the Steelers play in.

  6. I am a Raider Hater but that’s so weak. That just sucks. How long do they play there before it’s just a joke to go to a game? Then they build a nice one and nobody shows. Build a stadium and let them play someplace that will temporarily make fans still appreciate the experience.

  7. Ladies and gentlemen, your NFL leaders are hard at work.

    What a joke the league has become.

  8. defeetrexryan says:
    Jun 26, 2015 6:47 PM
    I live in LA and like it but WHY ARE TEAMS SO OBSESSED WITH MOVING HERE? It’s never worked before and there’s no reason to think it’ll work now.

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    Because the Clippers, who play little brother to the Lakers in their own market, sold for $2 billion, that is why.

  9. thedhneeds2go says:

    Let’s not forget…these teams are free to post winning records. That’s a sure way to get people to show. But none of them are very good at that…hence the need to switch cities.

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    Chargers have only had one single season in the last decade under .500.

  10. That’s only about $3 million per game, just on tix lost. Not to mention parking, concessions, etc. over a 10 game(preseason too) schedule(not counting playoffs) thats only $30 million lost. Somebody gettin’ PAID by other means.

  11. If the Vikings could work it out with TCF Bank Stadium and the Gophers and the Bears could work something out with Illinois during the Soldier Field renovations how hard could it be to work something out with one of the tenants of those venues? If it’s already a problem theoretically before they even have a team then maybe they should pump the brakes on talking about two teams there.

  12. Just because your a top media market doesn’t mean you deserve an NFL team. LA has shown they will not support a football team. Let them rot.

  13. catquick says:
    Jun 26, 2015 7:00 PM
    That’s only about $3 million per game, just on tix lost. Not to mention parking, concessions, etc. over a 10 game(preseason too) schedule(not counting playoffs) thats only $30 million lost. Somebody gettin’ PAID by other means.
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    WOW. 30 million dollars!?!?! That much!?!?!?

    LOL- if the Rams move to LA, their franchise value goes up by at LEAST $250 million overnight. Possibly twice that. Franchises in LA are on average worth twice as much as those in mid-market teams.

    I can’t believe how many people follow sports yet have no idea of the economics.

  14. BUILD THE STADIUM FIRST THEN MOVE THE TEAM THERE!!! Is it really that difficult to figure out!!! Going to the games are a waste of money, EVERYTHING IS OVER PRICED!!!

  15. It’s a TV game nowadays. Even families that can afford season packages currently are going to be phased out in favor of the elite. Game tickets, even in huge stadiums, only account for a few percentage points of the TV and merchandising funds.

  16. lukedun….I get the economics. All told it’s way over $30 million. If you were right, every team in the NFL, the Cowboys included would be running to LA. I can”t believe how many people follow sports and figure out simple things. Let’s not forget an out of state team adopting a 14% state income tax, amongst other things. Not every team goes up in worth or the Chargers, Rams and Raiders wouldn’t have left LA.

  17. At first blush, the thought of playing an NFL game at StubHub Center seemed absurd. But on second thought it would create an intimate atmosphere, and be similar to high school or an arena league game.

  18. Raiders haven’t been blacked out in many years even at only 50,000 and 85%. Its the Chargers who have been on blackout watch each week these past few years. Raiders could easily fill 55k plus in any SoCal venue.

  19. catquick says:
    Jun 26, 2015 7:35 PM
    lukedun….I get the economics. All told it’s way over $30 million. If you were right, every team in the NFL, the Cowboys included would be running to LA. I can”t believe how many people follow sports and figure out simple things. Let’s not forget an out of state team adopting a 14% state income tax, amongst other things. Not every team goes up in worth or the Chargers, Rams and Raiders wouldn’t have left LA.
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    First- team owners don’t worry about income tax. All their income is investment based.

    Second- What I said about franchise value wasn’t necessarily true 35 years ago and longer when those teams left. It’s a new league.

    Third- Every team that doesn’t have an ironclad stadium IS trying to get to LA, there just aren’t that many of them. Oh, and 32 teams can’t play in one city.

    Got anything else?

  20. I hear the stadium in San Diego is going to be vacant soon, they could put them there….

  21. The NFLPA play its college game there every year. It would also be a perfect training facility for a team. But, I don’t see AEG helping someone else get the dream. I also am not sure how the Galaxy feel about again getting a second tenant. They just got the Chivas USA/LAFC out.

  22. I Like it, or Angel Stadium, it’s just for a year.

    L.A. Rams at Angel Stadium.

    L.A.. Raiders at Carson.

  23. clickablecontent says:
    Jun 26, 2015 6:43 PM
    Man, I’d LOVE watching a game in a small venue. It would be like seeing the Stones play at a nightclub.
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    I saw the Stones kick off their 1997 tour at the Double Door here in Chicago.
    The place holds about 500 people and I paid less than $10.
    An amazing show to say the least.

  24. NFL won’t let romo host a dopey fantasy football convention in LV but have nooooo problem letting an NFL team play games in a stadium sponsored by the biggest ticket scalper on the planet. Okayyyyy

  25. But at least they can be confident they’d sell out. That’s not the case in St. Louis, Oakland or San Diego…..You forgot Jacksonville, Fl.

  26. My neice’s high school held their graduation there a few years ago. It’s a nice place for Futbol, but Football? American Football?

    I can’t see it.

  27. The NFL is a joke. As a Pasadena resident we don’t want their crap in our city. The NFL has been seeding the city council with these NFL lackies. The lawsuits are ready to fly. The Colesium is a degraded version of the heap the Raiders fled in 1995. The gang problem is still alive and killing it. So after the novelty wears off, after a series of killings and beatings, the fans are gone.

  28. It’s all about the TV money. Those revenues made the NFL the richest sport in America, and the LA market is the second largest in the country. The NFL wants all those fans tuning in on Sundays. When you’re watching on TV, does the size of the stadium matter? As they say, just follow the money.

  29. Browns fan here …watched my team get stolen and the ridiculous aftermath. I know it’s a business, but wait until you lose your team. I’ll make jokes then

  30. lukedon….Yeah, I do. The raise in the teams worth only comes through if you sell the team.FIRST- Owners do n’t worry about income taxes? You have GOT to be a liberal. Everyone with money worries about income taxes. That’s a beyond stupid thing to say. All there income is investment based? Since when? Ralph Wilson had all his money in the Bills. Jerry Jones had every cent and was in debt to buy the Cowboys. SECOND- Not necessarily? Copping out there, champ? Just because the Clippers went for big money doesn’t mean the others will skyrocket. With the new laws and a cash strapped state, owners can’t rely on the taxpayers anymore to fund their fantasies. THIRD- The Bills didn’t have an “ironclad” stadium, but stayed put. The Jets could leave, Patriots threatened to move to Hartford a few years back. they didn’t go to LA. Miami was looking to leave, didn’t. Saints were going to go after Katrina, didn’t. Texans started the franchise in Houston, why not LA? The league was hot for it! OTHERS!

    Got anything else?

    P.S. I said “cash strapped”. I meant “Bankrupt

    You know less about economics than the California general assembly or the average Dem congressman.

  31. hey… I got an idea… let them play a season in an ARENA, just for kicks… and to try out a few rule updates

  32. raiderswin00 says:

    Raiders haven’t been blacked out in many years even at only 50,000 and 85%.

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    People enjoy crime shows.

  33. silverandblack052099 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 6:49 PM
    Well, We know the Raiders or Rams could sell it out.

    But the Chargers…………..?
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    Raiders sell the fewest tickets in the entire league. Raiders use tarps, Chargers don’t. Chargers are about 10 places above the Raiders in ticket sales each year. Also above the Rams. So your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

  34. Raiders will be in the LA Coliseum again.
    Chargers could do StubHub but they might do Rose Bowl.
    Rams will be in St. Louis at the Edward Jones Dome until their new riverfront stadium is built. Sorry, Stan. {{-_-}}

  35. The NFL schedule overlaps with the end of the MLS season. They’d have to resod the field every week to have a good soccer pitch on a Saturday night after an NFL game the week before. That doesn’t seem practical. The StubHub center is owned by AEG who own the Staples center and were the force behind Farmer’s Field. It seems unlikely they’d do anything to help Kroenke and probably not Spanos or Davis either.

  36. silverandblack052099 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 6:49 PM
    Well, We know the Raiders or Rams could sell it out.

    But the Chargers…………..?

    61 42
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    Don’t let facts get in your way there Raider…

    Attendance rankings

    2014
    Raiders 30th out of 32 teams – a good season for them actually
    Chargers were 22nd in attendance

    2013
    Raiders were LAST (32nd)
    Chargers were 22nd

    2012
    Raiders were LAST (32nd)
    Chargers were 28th

    2011
    Raiders were 29th
    Chargers were 19th

    2010
    Raiders were LAST
    Chargers were 21st

    2009 Raiders were LAST
    2008 Raiders were 31st out of 32 teams in attendance
    2007 Raiders were 30th

    Over the past decade, besides have the MOST losses in the NFL, the Raiders are LAST in total attendance too.

  37. As an LA resident (not a close friend of any organization), I refuse to pay even one single red cent of taxpayer money for multibillionaires.

  38. “Raiders could easily fill 55k plus in any SoCal venue.”

    Yeah – just like last time.

  39. Plenty of beach volleyball sites they can use. It wouldn’t be as big a joke as a team in LA. succeeding

  40. johnnyace562 says:

    Perfect for the Chargers. {{-_-}}

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    Not so. Raiders have the lowest attendances.

    It’s one of two things that are certain about them. Guess the other.

  41. Southern California is beautiful. Just like Miami. That’s why they will always have problems selling out. If their team is not winning A LOT, they are going to be at the beach or somewhere else.

  42. Still say move the Rams back to LA where they belong, and move the Cards back to St. Lou where they belong. Sick of teams moving around, only to reconsider going back. Or at the very least, the city should retain the name for any possible future return of any sport like the Browns were able to do after Modell’s jailbreak to Baltimore. Indy should have created their own brand and left the Colts moniker in Baltimore. The team name should be sacred to its residents and fans, not jump from city to city looking for the best buck and stadium for the decade.

  43. just have the rams or raiders or whoever play 4 games in london and 4 games in mexico for a year.

    and yeah, if the vikings and gophers can make it work i’m sure the smug californians can figure it out too.

  44. 27,000 seats sounds about right for LA…Forget temporary, why not keep the stadium permanent?

  45. NFL considers temporarily moving L.A. team to 27,000-seat stadium.

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    Not a bad fit really since that’s about all that would actually attend a game there anyway regardless of which teams end up moving there.

  46. I’m shocked there isn’t some bylaw tucked away stating that an NFL stadium has a minimum seat requirement. NCCA has it for D1 programs.

    But then again this is the NFL and if the rule does exist theres no doubt in my mind it’ll be overlooked.

  47. Um the citrus bowl in orlando holds 65k plus. 2nd largest market behind LA with no NFL team. We have a stadium and will sell it out. Locals and visitors/tourists will keep it nice and full for every game. Why wouldn’t you want an NFL team in a city that is the most visited city in the USA and world. Orlando is global.

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