Vikings cornerback Josh Robinson wades into gay marriage debate

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While Friday’s ruling that gay marriage is legal and cannot be constrained by states created a national precedent, it’s also not going to stop the debate, or quiet those who don’t agree.

Vikings cornerback Josh Robinson apparently doesn’t see the Supreme Court ruling as a positive, and took to Twitter to say so.

[tweet: https://twitter.com/JROB_2one/status/614458400919916544]

And once the attention starts to hit and he eventually deletes it, here’s what it says:

“Love is love? So what will we say when the 30yr old loves YOUR 10 year old. When the dad loves HIS 6 year old? It’s different?? Yea okay!”

Most thinking adults can recognize the difference between a homosexual and a pedophile, but apparently the distinction is lost on Robinson, who continued his Twitter rant through a few more messages.

It’s an unfortunately backward stance, one which Robinson’s mentions are feeling the brunt of at the moment.

228 responses to “Vikings cornerback Josh Robinson wades into gay marriage debate

  1. Social media is like catnip for football players. They love to get into it … but it makes them act stupid.

  2. Wow. Just wow. You are asking to turn the clock back on peoples rights? Josh, this law doesn’t mean you have to marry a man. It means others that want to can. And that is the line. You do what you want provided it doesn’t hurt anyone else, and I do what I want as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else. They are not destroying YOUR rights, they are making sure other peoples rights are just as protected as yours. Including my right to call you an idiot.

  3. He has the right to speak his (ill-informed) mind.

    And I have the right to think he’s a complete moron who should be grateful to play in the NFL, because he clearly wouldn’t be successful in the everyday workforce.

  4. Maybe he phrased it in an awkward way, but the point he was apparently making is that the boundaries are disappearing. The laws may never change to allow pedophilia because it doesn’t involve consenting adults, but there’s no way you can say that three people can’t get married, or two couples can’t marry each other, or one man can’t marry twenty women. Just 10 years ago, not many people imagined that gay marriage would be legal in all 50 states, so you probably haven’t imagined yet what could be legal 10 years from now.

  5. Some people shouldn’t have Twitter accounts. ‘Twitter’ is basically an ‘Enabler’ for the stupid. On the bright side, it does allow us to accurately judge character. Josh…grow up.

  6. He has the right to express his opinion against it. This PC stuff has gotten wayyyy out of hand. I don’t agree with it either and my constitutional rights give the right to say so. That doesn’t make me stupid, an idiot, or a bigot. It makes me free…

  7. I’m utterly speechless. There is dumb, and then there us stupid to a level that several levels of species in the animal kingdom can now be proven to be smarter than you. This isn’t just ignorance this is stupidity defined.

  8. I agree with him. Since the court believes that couples that are in love should have the right to marry, then I should be allowed to marry multiple women as long as they agree that they love me right?

  9. Although I disagree with him, his point is that, “love is love” is a dumb argument. It’s not like marriage is that big a deal anyway. This is like the least important issue in the world. What’s next they’re going to throw a big parade about it….

  10. Some people are just that hard nosed about it. To each their own. Either way the majority of the population will agree and say gay marriage should be legal. Tis the time of year that players should be less focused on their Twitter and more focused on the playbook.

  11. Brain injuries are apparently piling up for Josh Robinson. Somebody get that man a CAT scan, stat!

  12. In Teddy We Trust says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:33 PM

    Maybe he phrased it in an awkward way, but the point he was apparently making is that the boundaries are disappearing. The laws may never change to allow pedophilia because it doesn’t involve consenting adults, but there’s no way you can say that three people can’t get married, or two couples can’t marry each other, or one man can’t marry twenty women. Just 10 years ago, not many people imagined that gay marriage would be legal in all 50 states, so you probably haven’t imagined yet what could be legal 10 years from now.

    ———

    while you make in interesting observation, I don’t think it is the one Robinson was trying to make. though his PR guy might try to make it sound that way eventually

  13. Uninformed, uneducated idiots like Robinson should shut up and be thought a fool rather than opening their mouths and removing all doubt.

  14. Pedophilia may not be a good comparison… By what about a brother and a sister? Or brother and brother…?

    I would think anyone fighting for gay rights would also have to fight for the rights of a brother able to mary his brother… All the same arguments apply (can’t help who we love, two consenting adults, it’s not a choice, Who are we to say who they can love? Who does it hurt?…Etc.)

    I don’t agree with this, but I’m curious to those who support gay marriage, would you also support 2 brothers being recognized as a marriage… Why or why not?? If you don’t support it, it’s likely for moral reasons, which can be hypocritical because you criticize other for imposing their morals on gays. Just something to think about.

  15. floratiotime says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:29 PM

    Social media is like catnip for football players. They love to get into it … but it makes them act stupid.
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    Some of them are just plain stupid, and social media just confirms it for the rest of us.

  16. So Robinson took his examples too far to the extreme. What if a 40-year-old wants to marry a 15-year-old? Juveniles are often tried as adults for certain crimes. I can see a 15-year-old making an argument to get married. In fact, it used to happen a lot before standards changed.

    What if a father wants to marry his 21-year-old daughter? Who are you to say he can’t? They’re consenting adults. Love is love.

  17. im all for ignoramuses speaking. just shows that the tendency for bigotry is something that needs to be addressed and can’t be ignored just because something is legal

    the parallelism of the civil rights movement is pretty amazing when you think about it

  18. I didn’t know he was running for president on the GOP ticket. When did he announce his candidacy?

  19. Someone should tell this dirtbag that if he goes out the front of the Vikings stadium, turns left and walks a couple miles he might find the time machine back to the 50s.

    “would you also support 2 brothers being recognized as a marriage… Why or why not?”

    No more than that of a brother and sister, there is no difference and your question is ridiculous. Incest is incest regardless of it being male-female, male-male or female-female.

  20. The Supreme Court is now writing law, and has been for quite awhile. Creating new law. Rewriting old law.

    Why condemn a football player? Let’s just disband the legislature. Nothing they do is important anymore.

  21. Perhaps a better analogy would have been to say, “what if it is a man and 16 nineteen year old girls who wish to marry?”

    They are all consenting adults.

    Or how about a two men and three women who wish to marry?

  22. Plain and simple: Everybody has been taught to believe one thing or another. Through time, some may alter their beliefs, and regardless, they are still their beliefs. However, you can not bash Josh for saying what he said because he unfortunately knows no better. That’s what he truly believes is right. Just like the other side truly believes they are right. And you can try to say saying one thing is more egregious than the other, but that’s all perception. It’s the same reason I don’t look at “terrorists” as evil people, because they are don’t know any better, only doing what they’ve been told is right from birth. How can you judge someone when you have no idea what’s been instilled in their minds. It may be time to open up some of yours. My two cents.

  23. truthfactory says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:55 PM
    Pedophilia may not be a good comparison… By what about a brother and a sister? Or brother and brother…?

    I would think anyone fighting for gay rights would also have to fight for the rights of a brother able to mary his brother… All the same arguments apply (can’t help who we love, two consenting adults, it’s not a choice, Who are we to say who they can love? Who does it hurt?…Etc.)

    I don’t agree with this, but I’m curious to those who support gay marriage, would you also support 2 brothers being recognized as a marriage… Why or why not?? If you don’t support it, it’s likely for moral reasons, which can be hypocritical because you criticize other for imposing their morals on gays. Just something to think about.
    ______________________________________

    Ironically most people who are against marriage are form states that would love to legalize incest.

  24. truthfactory says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:55 PM

    Pedophilia may not be a good comparison…
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    But that’s HIS comparison. twice.

  25. “would you also support 2 brothers being recognized as a marriage… Why or why not?”

    No more than that of a brother and sister, there is no difference and your question is ridiculous. Incest is incest regardless of it being male-female, male-male or female-female.
    ___________

    Why is the question ridiculous? Why is incest wrong? You don’t want closely related people to be having kids, but what does that have to do with siblings of the same sex? Are you imposing moral judgments?

  26. The only “unfortunately backward stance” I see is media such as yourself berating someone for having an opinion you don’t agree with.

  27. Its disgusting? People are born gay, they don’t choose it. I find people who are disgusted by people being happy disgusting.

  28. This is hilarious. All the people arguing where the line should be drawn don’t realize that the same argument can be made against governed marriage in general…and that includes man and woman.

    The government and religion should have no part in marriage because marriage isn’t real.

    I’m married and I can say it’s by far the dumbest concept ever. I did it because it was so important to my wife. All I have is a piece of paper and a new way of paying taxes. I can buy a ring and wear it without that paper…I can call her my wife…we can have a family together…but hey, the government recognizes it. It’s a joke.

    Anyone that thinks the government recognizing love as love opens up doors we can’t close honestly thinking society would welcome pedophiles is a crazy person.

  29. kcflake says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:46 PM
    Call it backward if you want to pft, but some of us were raised to oppose certain things.

    _____________________

    That’s not a valid excuse. I’m sure they said that back in the day when they were whipping slaves or segregating blacks from whites.

    Being raised a certain way doesn’t mean you can’t change.

  30. kcflake says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:46 PM

    Call it backward if you want to pft, but some of us were raised to oppose certain things
    —–

    I don’t have a problem with people that have the belief that same sex marriage is wrong. but I do have a problem with:

    1. people trying to impose their belief on others

    2. people that equate it to pedophelia

  31. Pure ignorance. How can he even put those two things together and think he’s made a valid point? You know, it’s fine if you’re against gay marriage as we live in a free country, but at least have the decency to comprehend what you’re saying. Many 5 year olds could be more articulate than that and have the ability to use logic to distinguish the difference between those tow things.

  32. This guys play is as good as his mind works and that’s not to well. The Vikings were already about to dump this guy and this will give them another reason to make it sooner than later. This guys a bum like Chris Cook was and I bet he ends up on the 49ers

  33. I think the point he was trying to make was that as a society we are condoning acts that may or may not be acceptable…it is a matter of opinion!!

    Since we are making those ideals legal, are WE as a society eventually going to condone pedophilia also…lord help us all if that was the case. We say that the gays are born that way, well, I guess in a way, so are pedophiles and that does not make it ok just because the law says it is ok to do so.

    Personally, I think athletes should just keep to their profession, it keeps ALL of us that have opinions out of THEIR business!!

  34. In America you can have the freedom of speech and your own opinion as long as it’s what the loudest people think.

    what do you know about Robinson and where his thoughts are coming from?

  35. “kcflake says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:46 PM
    Call it backward if you want to pft, but some of us were raised to oppose certain things.”

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    The rest of society doesn’t deserve to dwell in the dark ages simply because people like you were raised with ignorance and an exclusive agenda based on fear and lack of knowledge.

    But good point though I mean imagine how much further along we would be as a species if everyone respected the upbringings of their parents, especially back when slavery was cool, people believed the earth was flat, and advanced science was considered witchcraft and sorcery. Sounds good!

  36. “I wonder if Josh realizes that many of the same arguments, including his own, were used to oppose interracial marriage 40 years ago.”

    What a great analogy. The only difference is biology. Biology is a science in case you didn’t know.

  37. kcflake says:

    “Call it backward if you want to pft, but some of us were raised to oppose certain things.”

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    Oh, really? Then some of you were raised to try and deny certain people their civil rights because they’re different from you. And that makes you and others of your ilk bigots. No getting around that.

  38. 30 years ago gay anything was frowned upon so badly that it might was well be pedophilia. Today in other countries young girls are married off at 13 to 14 years of age. Children as young as 10 are becoming pregnant. So Josh has a valid point…When do we become so desensitized that even incest or pedophilia no longer registers on our moral meters? Will we just be a giant cesspool of debauchery? Marriage of any two people is legal why? A piece of freaking paper. Man’s laws are also a reflection of man’s morality. Think about how many laws have been thrown out or rewritten over the years. As we continue to erode as a society our man made laws continue to follow. It’s just a matter of time before Josh’s comments ring some truth. I just hope it waits until I’ve left this earth.

  39. He should be cut. If this was another team than i could see a fine or suspension but vikings coming off a year where they got flack for having a possible child abuser on their team. How they going to come across if they hold onto a player who thinks pedophilia is the same as same sex marriage.

    Hey Josh Robinson 2 consenting adults getting married is not the same as an adult taking advantage of a child.

  40. kylexitron says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:41 PM

    But good point though I mean imagine how much further along we would be as a species if everyone respected the upbringings of their parents, especially back when slavery was cool, people believed the earth was flat, and advanced science was considered witchcraft and sorcery. Sounds good!

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    probably half of us posting here would have died of old age by now

  41. I have heard this sort of argument before more than once. I no longer get too excited when I hear an argument that I disagree with or that is poorly crafted. Image what a non story this would be if everyone just said. “Oh.”

  42. He may have a right say what he wants. However, he does not have a right to be immune to the consequences of what he says or the right to not be criticized for it.

  43. He has every right to feel the way he does, and those who are raining hellfire down on him in disagreement have every right to do that as well.

  44. In Teddy We Trust, where to start? In all likelihood it is futile to attempt to explain the subtle, and some not so subtle, differences between your prognostication of legal eventualities and societies acceptance of heretofore, culturally alternative lifestyles. Intelligent people have for thousands of years decided if it is culturally acceptable and legal to have multiple spouses. Granted, the custom isn’t widely practiced in Western civilization, but it can be found. While most of us find the practice inappropriate at best, an unconventional lifestyle isn’t necessarily illegal by definition. It’s been my experience, it’s tough enough to keep one happy, why ask for more trouble?

  45. @pkrlvr says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:25 PM
    Its disgusting? People are born gay, they don’t choose it. I find people who are disgusted by people being happy disgusting.
    ==================================
    Uh what? I mean there are some studies out there, but I sure have not heard anything that strictly states you are born gay.

  46. The problem is that marriage is one institution that is both a religious institution with the Bible outlining what a marriage is, and a civil institution with legislatures and courts defining what a marriage is. Those two definitions don’t agree. Why does the civil institution get to trump the religious institution?

  47. truthfactory says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:55 PM
    Pedophilia may not be a good comparison… By what about a brother and a sister? Or brother and brother…?

    I would think anyone fighting for gay rights would also have to fight for the rights of a brother able to mary his brother… All the same arguments apply (can’t help who we love, two consenting adults, it’s not a choice, Who are we to say who they can love? Who does it hurt?…Etc.)

    I don’t agree with this, but I’m curious to those who support gay marriage, would you also support 2 brothers being recognized as a marriage… Why or why not?? If you don’t support it, it’s likely for moral reasons, which can be hypocritical because you criticize other for imposing their morals on gays. Just something to think about.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The reason for incest being illegal isn’t strictly morality. Incest leads to inbreeding and lowers the overall (genetic) quality of the human race. While the example of having two brothers or two sisters doesn’t necessarily fall under this umbrella because those relationships would be evolutionary dead ends, I think you’d have tough sledding having those relationships sanctioned by the government while excluding incestuous relationships that could produce offspring.

  48. Another joke of the week for the Vikings. Im sure he moved to the top of the depth chart on special teams, he must have made his bigoted coach proud.

    Its apparent Viking management doesn’t put any emphasis on wonderlic scores, what a moron.

  49. Josh is right on. The problem with the communist agenda is always, what is next? Bill Clinton had defense of marriage act. Now we are here this fast. Just think about what your president stated when he was first elected. Pay attention. You don’t have long sheep.

  50. We can’t have this. Who does this guy think he is, daring to use his 1st amendment rights to state his opinion?

    Yes, that was sarcastic.

  51. patsfanforlife says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:55 PM

    The problem is that marriage is one institution that is both a religious institution with the Bible outlining what a marriage is, and a civil institution with legislatures and courts defining what a marriage is. Those two definitions don’t agree. Why does the civil institution get to trump the religious institution?

    ———–

    actually, the question was: why does religious institution get to trump the civil institution. and the Supremes responded: it doesn’t

  52. patsfanforlife says:

    “The problem is that marriage is one institution that is both a religious institution with the Bible outlining what a marriage is, and a civil institution with legislatures and courts defining what a marriage is. Those two definitions don’t agree. Why does the civil institution get to trump the religious institution?”

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    People very often try to justify their bigotry by hiding it behind their religious beliefs or belief systems. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s bigotry, pure and simple.
    People for hundreds of years have tried to use religious texts to justify slavery, anti-gay sentiments, anti-interracial marriage sentiments, even arguing that people who are divorced should be treated differently than non-divorced people. The list goes on and on: it’s all bigotry and has no place in a free society.

  53. steeelfann0155 says:

    “It is all about removal of religion and US History.
    Eyes wide open. Stick to your guns Josh. Don’t let liberal whackjobs define your sense of faith.”

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    Wow! The only “whackjob” is you! The Supreme Court ruling today in part says that people can’t use their religious beliefs to deny gay people their right to legally marry. Just out of curiosity, how does a gay couple wanting to get married affect your life adversely? I’ll answer that for you, it doesn’t. So what are you so afraid of?

  54. Reading the comments and watching where most of the “thumbs down” are on here is making me feel so much better about the quality of people participating on this blog. I now am 100% sure it is filled with bigots and morons.

    patsfanforlife says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:55 PM

    The problem is that marriage is one institution that is both a religious institution with the Bible outlining what a marriage is, and a civil institution with legislatures and courts defining what a marriage is. Those two definitions don’t agree. Why does the civil institution get to trump the religious institution?

    ———–
    Because of the 1st amendment dummy. Not everyone practices the same religion or cares about religion at all. But we do all pay taxes and deserve equal treatment.

  55. steeelfann0155 says: Jun 26, 2015 2:01 PM

    Josh is right on. The problem with the communist agenda is always, what is next? Bill Clinton had defense of marriage act. Now we are here this fast. Just think about what your president stated when he was first elected. Pay attention. You don’t have long sheep.
    ——-

    Communist countries certainly dont support gay marriage. Have you ever read a history book in your life? Or just Fox news and the bible?

  56. Liberals are claiming Robinson is an idiot because he can’t distinguish between consenting adults and other types of relationships but this is a hypocritical argument because they are STILL defining what marriage is. It’s just that in their minds their opinion trumps the opinion of all others. If someone wanted to marry their dog or child who was of age they should be allowed to now. Those who say that situation is different is doing EXACTLY what they claim the rest of us are doing now. Being bigoted and intolerant.

  57. All u people using the bible to justify bigotry are full of it and just plain old bigots.

    The bible says way more about gluttony, yet 1/3 of Americans are OBESE….where is your outrage there? Where are your restaurants refusing to serve FAT people due to your “religious principles”? Oh yeah, you only selectively have “religious principles” when it suits your needs to justify your bigotry.

    You just HATE, that’s all..admit it already.

  58. steeelfann0155 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:59 PM

    It is all about removal of religion and US History.
    Eyes wide open. Stick to your guns Josh. Don’t let liberal whackjobs define your sense of faith.

    ——–

    Wow. Removal of religion?

    The point is that religion (of which there is more than one, by the way) will not be allowed to define law.

  59. this is super simple. if you need to resort to a “slippery slope” argument (“next they’ll marry kids” or “next they’ll let you marry five dudes”) it’s a sign that your argument is weak. if you can’t argue the actual issue, maybe you need to rethink your position. also, if your religious faith or your heterosexuality is in ANY way affected by gay marriage . . . you weren’t terribly faithful or straight in the first place. sorry, but strong secure people don’t freak out about other people’s private business.

  60. “Why does the civil institution get to trump the religious institution?”

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    Because the religious institution is based on a fairy tale created thousands of years ago by people who didn’t understand how the universe worked. It was a fabrication to explain away our existence.

    Now science has been systematically disproving what the church has always called indisputable facts.

    They thought the earth was flat and scientists of the time were even bullied into not suggesting the truth under the fear of execution for disagreeing with the church.

    While the civil institution is based on right versus wrong with intelligent minds working together for the good of all.

  61. “…but there’s no way you can say that three people can’t get married, or two couples can’t marry each other, or one man can’t marry twenty women.”

    There are a lot of things that would have to change currently based on the premise that you only have one legally recognized spouse at a time (tax law, rights granted automatically based on legal standing as a spouse, etc).

    This was about same-sex couples not being allowed to enjoy that legal standing as spouses (in certain states) AT ALL. They were often left without legal rights and protections that heterosexual couples can take completely for granted when they marry.

    So maybe someday bigamists will lobby for more changes to allow more than one legally recognized spouse, but it’s really not an apples-to-apples comparison.

  62. It’s his opinion. What the heII is the problem? You want to shout from the mountain tops you are gay. I don’t care. Just stop shoving it in my familys face every time we want to just watch a frigging game!!! Get it???

  63. “sorry, but strong secure people don’t freak out about other people’s private business.”

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    EXACTLY!

    Gay marriage does not affect you or your loved ones.

    Here’s a suggestion … worry more about your own sad lives and DON’T TELL OTHERS WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN’T DO, BASED ON YOUR OWN IDIOTIC PERSONAL BELIEFS!

  64. you know how gay people say they are born gay, and they can’t control who they are attracted to?

    how is that any different from a pedophile saying he can’t control who he is attracted to and was born that way??????

  65. I don’t get why religious people would be against polygamy, do you read your bible?

  66. patsfanforlife says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:55 PM

    The problem is that marriage is one institution that is both a religious institution with the Bible outlining what a marriage is, and a civil institution with legislatures and courts defining what a marriage is. Those two definitions don’t agree. Why does the civil institution get to trump the religious institution?

    __________________________________

    And why should a make-believe bearded man in the sky be able to tell ANYONE what they can or can’t do?

  67. And what shall we say when a black man wants to vote? Or sit at a white lunch counter? Or wants to live in a segregated community? Stop and think about prejudice for a minute, Josh. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

  68. “stick to picking off the INT monster known as Rogers…” Ah, yes. Rodgers is the name I think of when I think “INT”…said nobody, ever. Ponder threw a nice pick 6 to peppers though. mmm that was fun.

    Vikings should just cut this boob. Nobody knows him anyway. What a way to show that you got the really short stick when drawing for brains.

  69. snow52480 says:

    “Liberals are claiming Robinson is an idiot because he can’t distinguish between consenting adults and other types of relationships but this is a hypocritical argument because they are STILL defining what marriage is. It’s just that in their minds their opinion trumps the opinion of all others. If someone wanted to marry their dog or child who was of age they should be allowed to now. Those who say that situation is different is doing EXACTLY what they claim the rest of us are doing now. Being bigoted and intolerant.”

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    I’ll respectfully disagree with your statements above, primarily because the Supreme Court’s ruling today applied only to same-sex marriages of consenting adults.

  70. Then stop shoving it in my families face when we just want to watch a frigging game. Your problem is, you wont keep it to yourselves. You want my family to accept your behavior. NO. Will not happen. Why cant you folks keep it to yourselves?

  71. Well, in trying to keep it to football, these are the kind of dim bulbs voting on the NFL network’s Top 100 Players. Just. Wow.

  72. It’s refreshing to see that the overwhelming majority of people here support progressive change for the betterment of all.

    And only a tiny percentage are backward thinking yahoos.

  73. dave399 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 2:30 PM

    “Why does the civil institution get to trump the religious institution?”

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    Because the religious institution is based on a fairy tale created thousands of years ago by people who didn’t understand how the universe worked. It was a fabrication to explain away our existence.

    Now science has been systematically disproving what the church has always called indisputable facts.

    They thought the earth was flat and scientists of the time were even bullied into not suggesting the truth under the fear of execution for disagreeing with the church.

    While the civil institution is based on right versus wrong with intelligent minds working together for the good of all.

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    exactly. Think of it as a Wells Report of epic proportions

  74. For those commenting about same family marriages, twenty four states in the US allow it either outright or with some basic limitations (age and infertility).

  75. patsfanforlife says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:55 PM
    Why does the civil institution get to trump the religious institution?

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    Well that is quite simple really. The civil institution, being the United States Government, has the responsibility of defining the legality of everything in this country as well as the authority to do so; while the church (any religion) on the other hand has no responsibility and no authority to impose any form of law on the people of the United States.

    Each religion has it’s own rules that it’s members are expected to follow, and if you choose to do so you are free as a citizen of the United States to follow them. But, that doesn’t mean everyone else is going to; nor should they be expected to or have church members trying to force them to. That is part of living in a country where one of the principles its foundation is built on is religious freedom.

  76. Notwithstanding the lack of logic in his extreme response, this is exactly the type of “distraction” crap that Zimmer hates. I suspect that during a fox news commercial good old Josh has already had a chat with the head coach.

  77. “Then stop shoving it in my families face when we just want to watch a frigging game. Your problem is, you wont keep it to yourselves. You want my family to accept your behavior. NO. Will not happen. Why cant you folks keep it to yourselves?”

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    Huh?

    I don’t think gays really care one bit if you accept their behavior or not. They just don’t want you to dictate what they can and can’t do based on the personal beliefs of strangers.

    And as a 100% straight man … I really don’t like seeing a lot of straight public displays of affection either. Everybody should keep their own shizzle in the privacy of their own homes.

  78. The problem is, you “forward” looking people are 100% wrong. You cannot back up anything you claim. Genetics or whatever. If you are that proud, you wouldn’t have to be shoveling your bs every chance you get. No? Like the kicker the vikes had, he couldn’t help himself. Had to MAKE e1 think the way he does.

  79. jimbo1966 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:44 PM

    30 years ago gay anything was frowned upon so badly that it might was well be pedophilia. Today in other countries young girls are married off at 13 to 14 years of age. Children as young as 10 are becoming pregnant. So Josh has a valid point…When do we become so desensitized that even incest or pedophilia no longer registers on our moral meters?

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    Hate to be that guy to have to break it to you, but the age of consent for marriage in several states IS 13 and sometimes lower. Most require parental consent, but it is in fact legal to marry kids. Just google “age of consent for marriage in new hampshire” for instance.

  80. I think Robinson may be alluding to the progression of acceptance that other cultures have gone through…all the way to the acceptance of pedophilia. And he has a right to say it.

  81. aulrevereshorse1775 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 2:49 PM

    They thought the earth was flat and scientists of the time were even bullied into not suggesting the truth under the fear of execution for disagreeing with the church.

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    Hate to break it to you, but the Bible says and has always said the earth is round. Look it up.

  82. Josh is also upset because Teddy is taking snaps from under center. “Shot-gun only” … warns Josh.

  83. lenthevikesfan says:
    Jun 26, 2015 2:24 PM
    Just in case you forgot 4 SCOTUS Justices also ruled against it. Are you “social justice warriors” attacking their Twitter feeds too?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    While I haven’t yet read any of their dissenting opinions, I sincerely doubt that any of them will be including a comparison of same sex relationships and incestuous pedophilia the way that Mr Robinson did. If, in fact they do, I would be equally outraged with them.

  84. americanfootballarchive says:
    Jun 26, 2015 2:42 PM

    And why should a make-believe bearded man in the sky be able to tell ANYONE what they can or can’t do?

    ———–

    One day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord.

  85. Robinson is the one fully informed, rightly educated and smart. The naysayers are bigots and Theophobes, hate filled dummys who cannot think for themselves.

  86. Gay people can now get married. No big deal. All it means is they now have the right to someday be just as miserable as the rest of us!

  87. Show me in a state or the Federal constitution where the government was granted the power to regulate who may or may not marry.

    I’ll wait.

  88. This is just the first salvo. Expect the push for group marriage, brother/sister marriage, mother / son, daughter/father. If they are all consenting adults, what rights does anyone have to make those unions illegal. We are on that road now. His remarks are crude, but some are pushing to lower the age of consent so children can partake in marriage. Like I said, we are on that road.

  89. Personally I could care less one way or another but what is startling is how the opinion of those who oppose SSM are not allowed to voice their opinions and beliefs without fear of retribution.

    They are tried in a shadow court of the media and prosecuted to the full extent of their financial ability until they rescind their beliefs and change their minds under the gun….AL Queda and ISIS work the same way….

    Freedom of speech must be protected no matter your position for or against SSM. Slow erosion of freedom is occurring right before our eyes….

  90. medialovesthecowboys says:
    Jun 26, 2015 3:03 PM

    aulrevereshorse1775 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 2:49 PM

    They thought the earth was flat and scientists of the time were even bullied into not suggesting the truth under the fear of execution for disagreeing with the church.

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    Hate to break it to you, but the Bible says and has always said the earth is round. Look it up.
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    Yeah, round like a plate.

  91. Why is it when people oppose gay marriage they are considered bigots but people who oppose those against gay marriage (often much more passionately and unwavering) are never considered bigots? There are merits to both sides of the argument but the true bigots are the ones who won’t allow a difference of opinion and try to shame or censor those that disagree.

  92. Wow, this dude is a NUT JOB!!!!
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    So e1 with a differing opinion other than your is a “NUT JOB”? …..BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!

  93. Wow, this dude is a NUT JOB!!!!
    ————
    So peeps with a differing opinion are “NUT JOBS”? You are a special person.

  94. Rodgers has the lowest INT % in the history of the NFL and highest TD/INT ratio of all time.

    Aaron Rodgers
    226/57= 3.97

    Teddy Bridgewater

    14/12=1.16

    A TD/INT ratio of 2 is generally considered the gold standard for QB’s. Rodgers shattered that and Bridgewater has A LONG way to go to even have a decent one.

  95. I don’t think gays really care one bit if you accept their behavior or not. They just don’t want you to dictate what they can and can’t do based on the personal beliefs of strangers.
    —————————————–
    The hell they don’t.

  96. medialovesthecowboys says:
    Jun 26, 2015 3:03 PM

    aulrevereshorse1775 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 2:49 PM

    They thought the earth was flat and scientists of the time were even bullied into not suggesting the truth under the fear of execution for disagreeing with the church.

    ———————————————————————–

    Hate to break it to you, but the Bible says and has always said the earth is round. Look it up

    —————-

    although I did not write that which you quoted me as writing, I must say that the Bible in several places has prose about the shape of the earth that could be argued either way and has in fact been argued over the history of time. and it wasn’t written in 20th or 21st century English either.

    I think of ““four angels standing at the four corners of the earth.” (Revelations) and I certainly picture a square, yet in other parts of the Bible earth is described as a circle. I’m not sure any of that is relevant though, because it doesn’t matter how people interpret the Bible today, the excerpt of someone else’s post that you applied to me talked about how people made these claims in the past…..and it is clear that it was a basis of argument in the past.

  97. “Call it backward if you want to pft, but some of us were raised to oppose certain things.”

    Saying “but I was raised to think this way” is not a great excuse for believing in nonsensical bigotry..

  98. He’s right. And here is what the idiot posters today don’t know. There are several nations on earth that already allow “consent” regarding having sex with kids as young as 12.

    Morality is not an easy thing to manage. In an ever more immoral society, everyone has a line that they think is “going too far”, but for someone else is “natural”. NAMBLA has existed for many years. If you don’t know what these nuts believe, look it up. They are your neighbors.

    But here’s what’s next – and if you doubt me, you’re simply not paying attention. Churches, priests, rabbi’s, ministers, will be FORCED to marry same-sex couples, even if their faith looks at this behavior as sin. And any “speech” that denounces this immoral behavior (in the eyes of the church / God, you pick) will be a criminal act, labeled “hate speech” and will be prosecuted just like a physical crime.

    Is this honestly the world that you want? Because that is exactly what many of you are promoting.

  99. gofor2with3pointlead says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:50 PM

    In Teddy We Trust, where to start? In all likelihood it is futile to attempt to explain the subtle, and some not so subtle, differences between your prognostication of legal eventualities and societies acceptance of heretofore, culturally alternative lifestyles. Intelligent people have for thousands of years decided if it is culturally acceptable and legal to have multiple spouses. Granted, the custom isn’t widely practiced in Western civilization, but it can be found. While most of us find the practice inappropriate at best, an unconventional lifestyle isn’t necessarily illegal by definition. It’s been my experience, it’s tough enough to keep one happy, why ask for more trouble?
    ___________

    No, an unconventional lifestyle is not illegal by definition. Society determines what is legal and illegal. My point is just that many people who are celebrating this decision would probably not be happy at all about brother marrying brother, couples marrying couples, or a person having multiple spouses, but there is no consistency in their argument that one thing should be legal and others should not.

  100. jazz11001 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 3:24 PM
    Freedom of speech must be protected no matter your position for or against SSM. Slow erosion of freedom is occurring right before our eyes….

    ———————————————————

    I see you are one of the o so many Americans who don’t properly understand the concept of free speech. Let me try to explain it to you.

    Freedom of speech allows you voice any opinion you like without fear of persecution by the government. It however does not protect you in the court of public opinion or from any form of violence other individuals that hold a different opinion may choose to throw your way.

  101. Oh…and I forgot to add that Josh Robinson sucks. He won’t make the team anyways after we sign whichever CB the Packers cut in the final cut down.

  102. iamedreed says:
    Jun 26, 2015 2:39 PM

    you know how gay people say they are born gay, and they can’t control who they are attracted to?

    how is that any different from a pedophile saying he can’t control who he is attracted to and was born that way??????
    ______________________________

    Are you really this stupid or just pretending for the sake of argument?!

    Expanding your very “legitimate” question, then why do we punish people for breaking the law? They can just say they were born criminally minded.

    Holy! I feel stupider for just responding.

    Damn, everytime I read these comments, I am reminded to NOT, and remove myself from stupid.

    Duly reminded – adios forever.

  103. So, the Supreme Court decided kids are not allowed to say the pledge of allegiance in school because people are offended by God, but gay marriage is ok…… Wow.

  104. akboots says:

    Then stop shoving it in my families face when we just want to watch a frigging game. Your problem is, you wont keep it to yourselves. You want my family to accept your behavior. NO. Will not happen. Why cant you folks keep it to yourselves?

    Nobody keeps anything to themselves anymore. Politics, sports, religion, sexuality, Kardashians, etc etc…….there are things I don’t want to see either, but guess what, its a 24 hour a day news cycle now and everything is thrown in our faces. You either deal, or shut the electronics off and go outside and look at nature.

  105. I smell a reality show brewing – Robinson, Kluwe and Ayanbadejo compete in a grueling event – the loser is banned from speaking to the media about this topic and has to (or gets to, depending on your opinion) marry Michael Sam.

    That’s my way of saying, who cares, this whole country is going to hell anyway.

  106. Dear people; my family will never accept being gay. We weren’t raised this way. Male and female. Simple. Now YOU deal with it. DONT look for my support. Am I wrong for having this opinion?

  107. iamedreed says:
    Jun 26, 2015 2:39 PM
    you know how gay people say they are born gay, and they can’t control who they are attracted to?

    how is that any different from a pedophile saying he can’t control who he is attracted to and was born that way??????______________________________________

    Consent would be the easy answer Mr. Not So Bright. But hey I’m sure you think the Duggar kid is perfectly fine, he was just “young and playing Doctor”

  108. Robinson will learn that if you state your opinion on social media the PC posse will annihilate you. They only want you to agree to their way of thinking. Right or wrong an opinion is like a “nose”…everybody has one. I guess now I’ll be shamed by the no-nose crowd.
    Nobody is asking you holier-than-thou keyboard jockeys to agree with his option. Nobody.

  109. In Teddy We Trust says:
    Jun 26, 2015 3:42 PM

    No, an unconventional lifestyle is not illegal by definition. Society determines what is legal and illegal. My point is just that many people who are celebrating this decision would probably not be happy at all about brother marrying brother, couples marrying couples, or a person having multiple spouses, but there is no consistency in their argument that one thing should be legal and others should not.

    ———-

    pretty much all states already have laws that address the various marriage possibilities you offer. this SCOTUS decision does not change those.

  110. chris6523 says:

    We can’t have this. Who does this guy think he is, daring to use his 1st amendment rights to state his opinion?
    ______

    And everyone disagreeing with him is using theirs. That’s the beauty of it.

  111. For those of you that continue to utter garbage like “what’s next, marrying kids or animals or brothers and sisters”…

    I’d like to let you in on a secret…

    Those other things are… wait for it… OTHER things. If anyone wants those things to be legal then some group will have to fight for their rights in court like the rest of us. This isn’t about your beliefs or my beliefs. It’s about OUR beliefs. And this is America. OUR beliefs vary from person to person and place to place. That’s why we have a system of representation and a system of laws. In our Civil society we have common beliefs and THAT is what the supreme court decided. Gay marriage is now the law of the land. If you want to marry a 13 year old, then move to a place where that is legal (you know, because there are places in America where that is legal), or you can take your case to the justice system and try to make your case the law of the land. Same thing for those of you that want to marry your pets. You have certain inalienable human right. And for the rest you’ll have to fight for what you believe in, just like gay folks have done.

  112. As long as somebody is not hurting an innocent victim, I don’t care what they do.

    I won’t tell any of you what you can and can’t do simply because I don’t like it. If I did, your response would be to completely ignore me and tell me to take a hike … with surely much more choice words.

    So where do you get off telling gays that they can’t marry because YOU don’t like it? How does it negatively affect your life? It doesn’t.

    You don’t have to like it. You don’t have to like it one bit. But you have as little right to impose your will on others as they have to impose their will on you.

    Get out of the dark ages people.

  113. My reply isn’t PC and probably won’t get posted. People can believe as they wish and do as they wish. And courts can rule as they wish. But NATURE doesn’t view same sex unions the same as male-female unions or inter-racial unions the same. The latter two unions can pro- create but same sex cannot. The narrow mindedness of man had a problem with interracial unions, nature NEVER did. While adults have the right to make various choices, it doesn’t necessarily mean that nature approves of those choices.

  114. Gofor2 just ignore teddy we trust he is a viking fan and is accustomed to deflecting negative Viking publicity whether its from a player or management. He tries to spin to change the narrative. It’s quite obvious what the idiot Robinson was saying that a gay marriage is somehow related to a pedophile and a child. He topped himself with this.

  115. niners816 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:22 PM
    Same sex marriage should be banned. It’s disgusting.

    96 75

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    That’s right…. 96 agreements with that comment, making 97 bigots in all so far.

  116. I keep looking at the headline to this article “…..Robinson wades into the gay marriage debate”.

    More like a cannonball

  117. akboots says:

    Dear people; my family will never accept being gay. We weren’t raised this way. Male and female. Simple. Now YOU deal with it. DONT look for my support. Am I wrong for having this opinion?
    _____

    They aren’t looking for your support, they know they aren’t getting it. They just want to be able to marry each other. That’s it.

    YOU have the right to not like them or their lifestyle, THEY have the right to live theirs.

    Get it?

  118. Based on the thumbs ups and downs for the following subjects: the views on Tebow, Michael Sam, guns, religion, Redskins name, gay marriage, it’s pretty clear that the majority of PFT readers hold deep conservative and very religious views. Just an observation.

  119. ariani1985 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:27 PM
    Keep your mouth shut and stick to picking off the INT monster known as Rogers!

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    Ouch! Can’t even get support on a Vikings article…

  120. kcflake says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:46 PM

    Call it backward if you want to pft, but some of us were raised to oppose certain things
    —–

    I don’t have a problem with people that have the belief that same sex marriage is wrong. but I do have a problem with:

    1. people trying to impose their belief on others
    ——————————————————–
    Isn’t the gay community trying to force everyone to accept their lifestyle, and not have an opposing opinion? I would think you would have a problem with that.

    The fact is that anything becomes acceptable once enough people, or the right people are doing it.

  121. It’s funny how people call him uneducated when the truth is people have been misinformed on the meaning of the constitution and have been handed lies by the LBGT community. He’s supposed to be tolerant of them but no one is tolerant of him, so he is called names even though he hasn’t resorted to name-calling.

  122. The issue with the gay agenda is the way that the liberal left has attached itself to this subject for the purpose of votes.

    You can be disgusted with the thought of a man with another man. It doesn’t appear or seem natural to most people.

    But, people do have rights. We should respect all, but don’t need to accept a certain lifestyle to be “normal”…..it is obviously not normal.

    You can disagree with a certain lifestyle without being a “bigot”. Empathy is important.

  123. niners816 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:22 PM
    Same sex marriage should be banned. It’s disgusting.

    ————————————————————–

    Says a 49ers fan. You realize that San Fransisco has one of the biggest gay and lesbian populations in the entire U.S. right?

  124. niners816 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 1:22 PM
    Same sex marriage should be banned. It’s disgusting.

    ————————————————————–

    Says a 49ers fan. You realize that San Fransisco has one of the biggest gay and lesbian populations in the entire U.S. right?
    ———-
    That has nothing to with the 49ers or the fact that I think it’s disgusting.

  125. hemi49er says:
    Jun 26, 2015 3:39 PM

    He’s right. And here is what the idiot posters today don’t know. There are several nations on earth that already allow “consent” regarding having sex with kids as young as 12.

    Morality is not an easy thing to manage. In an ever more immoral society, everyone has a line that they think is “going too far”, but for someone else is “natural”. NAMBLA has existed for many years. If you don’t know what these nuts believe, look it up. They are your neighbors.

    But here’s what’s next – and if you doubt me, you’re simply not paying attention. Churches, priests, rabbi’s, ministers, will be FORCED to marry same-sex couples, even if their faith looks at this behavior as sin. And any “speech” that denounces this immoral behavior (in the eyes of the church / God, you pick) will be a criminal act, labeled “hate speech” and will be prosecuted just like a physical crime.

    Is this honestly the world that you want? Because that is exactly what many of you are promoting.

    bridgeh2o says:

    Your post is absolutely correct and perceptive!

    There is a time around the corner that some clerics will be FORCED to marry, and if they don’t, will be in”contempt”.

    It is around the corner, hence RFRA is so vital for many that don’t agree with this lifestyle.

    So those that say that “gay marriage doesn’t hurt you” is completely off-base, and not paying attention.

    It will affect MANY, for the wrong reasons.

  126. And for the people using bad, elementary analogies to feebly try to make a point about what you don’t agree with, there are lots of things that I don’t agree with but people have the right to do in this country like drink, like smoke cigarettes, like ride around with treasonous Confederate flags on their cars and trucks. It’s part of that whole freedom thing you claim to believe in, and this was a good step in the right direction in actually being all the way there and not just part of the way like we seemed so comfortable being at for so long. It’s the right for 2 consenting adults to enter a freaking legal contract. Get a grip. Are you seriously trying to use the religion card from ambiguous Old Testament verses that none of you understand nor were there to know where they came from? Like seriously in 2015?

  127. Here is a question for those opposed to gay marriage: why do you even care? It is pretty much a virtual certainty that gay marriage is not going to have any affect whatsoever on your daily life. So really, why do you even care at all about something that has zero effect on you?

  128. paulrevereshorse1775 says:
    Jun 26, 2015 4:00 PM

    In Teddy We Trust says:
    Jun 26, 2015 3:42 PM

    No, an unconventional lifestyle is not illegal by definition. Society determines what is legal and illegal. My point is just that many people who are celebrating this decision would probably not be happy at all about brother marrying brother, couples marrying couples, or a person having multiple spouses, but there is no consistency in their argument that one thing should be legal and others should not.

    ———-

    pretty much all states already have laws that address the various marriage possibilities you offer. this SCOTUS decision does not change those.
    _________

    Half the states had laws that did not allow gay marriage. I’m just saying that the logical consequence of this ruling is for the other marriage possibilities to also become legal someday. Anyone who is for gay marriage but against the others is not making a consistent argument.

  129. iluvbears says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:28 PM

    They dumped Kluwe for supporting same-sex marriage.

    )))))))))))))))))))))))))

    No actually they got rid of him because he wasn’t worth the big salary hit against the cap. And his stats started to drop. Real simple, all there stop being lazy.

  130. hit55brooks says:

    “Ppl are stupid and missed his point….Gays say they were born this way n if thats true then pedophiles were born that way too…. Get it??”

    ————————————————————

    Wrong! People who are gay are NOT one and the same with people who molest children!

  131. SCOTUS doesn’t decide a law’s Constitutionality by subjecting it to a religious test. The material point is whether the responsibilities and benefits that are extended by law to one group of persons can be withheld from another group. Can a State restrict girls from public education while permitting boys to attend? Can voting rights be restricted to white men who own property?

    Equal treatment under the law keeps powerful minorities as well as majorities from using lawmaking to subjegate, restrict and enslave others. Why they want to do so doesn’t matter. SCOTUS looks at whether the State law is compatible with the Constitution.

    As a Union the country has consistently moved toward the protection of the rights of people to share equally in civil liberties. Civil rights and civil responsibilities must apply equally to all persons in the eligible group, not just some.

    Can State legislatures pass laws forbiding interracial marriages? Can they pass laws forbidding interfaith marriages? Can they pass laws forbidding the blind, deaf or physically handicapped to marry?

    In the US we have typically said no to the restrictions placed on civil liberties on minority groups and we have come through ok, learned to replace distrust with understanding, fear with respect, hate with love.

    It will be the same here.

  132. what makes this so hard to listen to, is he’s not even any good. Im pretty sure Trey Wayne’s was the #1 pick at cb for a reason. He may not even make Vikings roster at cb. Focus on yourself bro. I’ve never heard of you before, but your words are ignorant. Your game is ignorant, obviously. It’s ignorant that a bad football player/soon to be cut has waisted our time.

  133. Some people are gay. Get over it. By the same token, some people are going to be ignorant bigots and we will have to publicly deal with them for a while longer. What gets me personally here is that I have never been able to understand why the Vikings haven’t cut Josh Robinson; I’d say he’s the worst cornerback in the NFL — and I’m a huge Vikes fan. I always thought, well, maybe he’s a real good egg, maybe the front office sees something in him that they know can develop into a greatness. Maybe he’s such a good guy that they’re willing to take up roster space because he’s a team player. Maybe I shouldn’t be so harsh on the kid, maybe he deserves a chance. Well, sorry JR, I’m a straight Vikings fan just awaiting the day you get cut. How could he not realize he has nothing to gain by further alienating himself from decency. If you don’t think the way the guy plays DB is revolting, you haven’t been watching close enough. If you don’t think his idiotic tweet is revolting, that’s totally your right. But I think there are now a sea of people just waiting to watch him get cut. I will boo him every time he takes the football field and I hope never again for the team that I love.

  134. I wonder how he feels about cornerbacks who can stay with their man but don’t turn their heads to find the ball.

  135. A couple of actual definitions for you.

    Bigot: a person who is intolerant of those holding different opinions.

    Free Speech: everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression, without fear of persecution.

    This young man is exercising his right to free speech.

    Everyone who is calling him names, out-of-touch, backwards, not with the times, etc., are exercising their right to be bigots.

    Next time you so freely throw out the word “bigot”, just look in the mirror, you’re staring at one.

  136. Here is a question for those opposed to gay marriage: why do you even care? It is pretty much a virtual certainty that gay marriage is not going to have any affect whatsoever on your daily life. So really, why do you even care at all about something that has zero effect on you?

    ———————————————————
    And that’s where your narrow thinking ends.

    For Christians, this DOES affect them, because it brings all of us one step closer to the end of times when God wipes the slate clean, again, and starts over.

    But of course, those with a narrow view only see what they want, their own desires, their own sins. The sins of a few affect the future of many.

    Therefore, it IS our business…

  137. No, an unconventional lifestyle is not illegal by definition. Society determines what is legal and illegal. My point is just that many people who are celebrating this decision would probably not be happy at all about brother marrying brother, couples marrying couples, or a person having multiple spouses, but there is no consistency in their argument that one thing should be legal and others should not.
    ————————————————
    Society decided against same-sex marriage, hence the reason the voters (socieity) outlawed it in many states.

    Five people sitting in black robes made the decision to override “society.”

    Big difference. Society, as a whole has spoken loud and clear. Five people chose to ignore their voices.

    But don’t fool yourself that “society” is in total support.

  138. The topic WAS gay marriage. Somehow, it went to pedophilia and incest, and even statutory rape. Doesn’t anyone take the time to educate themselves? I mean, this is downright embarrassing for most of you, and you don’t even realize it.

  139. The reason for incest being illegal isn’t strictly morality. Incest leads to inbreeding and lowers the overall (genetic) quality of the human race. While the example of having two brothers or two sisters doesn’t necessarily fall under this umbrella because those relationships would be evolutionary dead ends, I think you’d have tough sledding having those relationships sanctioned by the government while excluding incestuous relationships that could produce offspring.

    ————————————————-
    Glad you brought it up.

    A same-sex couple can never-ever have a biological child that is biologically related to both people. You must have a member of the opposite sex to be able to create that child.

    If that is what God intended, do you think he might have made it possible to do so? That’s specifically why only a man and a woman together can create life. It’s not what he intended – ever.

    Now, the Devil on the other hand…

  140. bonesawisready,
    No, the morons would rather it actually affect their lives by their daughters or sisters hooking up with some closeted, ashamed man because he’s trying to fit into what they think he should be doing. Nobody said your church that apparently is okay with all the other stupid stuff people do but not this had to marry gay people. Nobody said you had to “agree” with it, whatever that means. It simply means these people can enter into the same legal contracts and get the same protections for the people they love as the rest of us, 2 consenting adults. As far as the people bringing up ridiculous scenarios like incest and pedophilia. One is outlawed for medical reasons unless you don’t believe in science, which seems to be a trend for some of our fellow Americans, and the other is not involving 2 consenting adults. That’s why we have ages of consent well at 18 in most of our states except backward KY which is still at 14 or something absurd. If your local government allows that, you should be the one getting right on that instead of worrying about this.

  141. Hey “bradbowler77”

    The good book says Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

    If your “Good Book” is the King James Bible, it also says : “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.”
    Numbers 23:22

    and: “And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness” Isaiah 34:7

    and “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” Psalms 137:9

    Great book, your Good Book. You should read it sometime.

  142. floratiotime says:
    Jun 26, 2015 12:29 PM
    Social media is like catnip for football players. They love to get into it … but it makes them act stupid.
    _____________________________

    Based on what I have seen, it isn’t just football players….

  143. Actually, since Bruce Jenner can be a woman because he just feels like it, why can’t a 40 year old say he’s just 10 years old? There’s no pedophilia here.

    What about the throuple? What about cousins being allowed to marry? Why can’t 45 year old Uncle’s marry their 25 year old niece?

  144. If you disagree with gay marriage that’s fine and your right but don’t make stupid comparisons you know are not relevant. Just stop comparing gays to monsters because they can point it back to you just as legitimately.

  145. How far society has fallen when someone who supports traditional marriage is classified as being controversial. If same sex marriage was favored by the masses it wouldn’t have to take a ruling by the court to overturn the will of the people. Fortunately the liberals haven’t yet taken our First Amendment rights away, but as you can read here, they sure would like to if anyone expresses an opinion they don’t agree with.

  146. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. For everyone. Isn’t that why this is the greatest place on earth to live?

  147. I’m a Vikings fan. I already didn’t like this guy. He can just go ahead and leave Minnesota, where we voted down the gay ban attempt in our state.

  148. bonesawisready says:
    Jun 26, 2015 6:19 PM
    Here is a question for those opposed to gay marriage: why do you even care? It is pretty much a virtual certainty that gay marriage is not going to have any affect whatsoever on your daily life. So really, why do you even care at all about something that has zero effect on you?
    ______________________________________

    Because despite the constitution clearly demanding a separation of church and state, the far right dreams of the day it can impose the Christian version of Sharia Law.

  149. kimbo71006,

    Here’s the rich guy with the “Christian” quote who fails to realize that the leader of their movement told them never to judge ANYBODY, but he’s comfortable not only doing so but declaring that’s why he’s against this. Do you know the leader of your religion that you claim turned to a freaking murderer on the cross and said he was good with him, or did you skip that part of the book? According to Christian guy though, murderer not as bad as gay people. SMH.

    It doesn’t affect you. It’s actually more likely to affect you the longer people like you sgigmatize it because in such a scenario, people feel better being closeted and thus ruin other people’s lives, and one of those people might be somebody you love. So let it go. There are actually legal things people do that put me at risk like blowing out 2nd hand smoke and drinking and driving. Gay people getting married, not affecting you or me.

  150. Good thing he can play football, or he would be lucky to be asking us if we want fries with that!

  151. In Teddy We Trust says:
    Jun 26, 2015 3:42 PM

    “No, an unconventional lifestyle is not illegal by definition. Society determines what is legal and illegal. My point is just that many people who are celebrating this decision would probably not be happy at all about brother marrying brother, couples marrying couples, or a person having multiple spouses, but there is no consistency in their argument that one thing should be legal and others should not.”

    The only consistency here is, those who disapprove of gay marriage, are in fact the only ones responsible for the non sequitur. Not a particularly original thought, projected onto a group that you disagree with because your world view has been rejected as illogical. The conclusions lept too by those who disagree, for whatever reason, with gay marriage, are purposefully inconsistent out of desperation in an attempt to validate their illogical point of view. Not to put to fine a point on it.

  152. I think I’ll have a burger and watch this country continue to go to hell…Thank a Democrat for the dissolution of the USA!…Why their trying their best to undo the American Revolution…!!!

  153. Whenever I wonder “What would my (nice but racist, deceased in the ’70s) Grandpa say?” I pull up PFT…and sure enough, far more supporters of Robinson than detractors. 1948 is alive and well at PFT! :p

  154. “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” – Abraham Lincoln

  155. He has a right to express his opinion, and he doesn’t have to agree with the left. Gay mafia indeed!

  156. Sadly, I was afraid to express my thoughts on FB after this ruling. People were literally verbally abusing anyone who did not agree with the decision. I had friends threatening to unfriend anyone who disagreed with them. Yep, free speech at its finest. Who says the left isn’t stripping us of our rights?

  157. I respect the opinion, regardless of how ridiculous it may be. And I’m no libtard who wants to shove gay marriage down people’s throats.

  158. Most liberals don’t understand the concept of slippery slope. We have allowed killing unborn children for 30+ years, and yet wonder how cops can shoot an unarmed victim 6 times, with no justification for each bullet.

  159. The pedophile comment was stupid – children can’t consent. But the polygamy and incest cases might well be opened up by this absurd Supreme Court decision. There is no clear legal principle distinguishing them from gay marriage – they are all consenting adults looking for “dignity” and “affirmation” and all of the other things that the law can’t give them. These are the potential repercussions when judges make law on bogus constitutional principles.

    Too bad a smarter player didn’t make the case. And I really wish sports reporters would butt out of the matter. They have no expertise in constitutional law and are just putting themselves at the head of a parade. History doesn’t have a “right side”.

  160. In Honor of Gay Pride June 26, 2015

    Every year we as a Nation should celebrate this Day with this short story to be read everywhere followed by a moment of silence.

    A living human male named Noah was told to build a boat large enough for him & his female wife, his three male sons and their female wives as well as for two of each kind – male & female.
    After completion of the boat they all got onboard for the ‘Ride of Their Lives’.
    Once the chaos had subsided and the boat rested on dry ground they all got out and looked up.
    What a BEAUTIFUL RAINBOW in the sky.

    The First Ever Unchanging RAINBOW Marriage Certificate given to the very first Male & Female Marriage Partners who got off that boat – ALIVE.

    RAINBOW = For use between a male husband and female wife – ONLY.

  161. Can State legislatures pass laws forbiding interracial marriages? Can they pass laws forbidding interfaith marriages? Can they pass laws forbidding the blind, deaf or physically handicapped to marry?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to change the definition of male & female which is EXACTLY what the ATTEMPT is in Gay Marriage.

    CONSTITUTIONAL FACT #1 : It is IMPOSSIBLE for male/male sex partners to PROCREATE.

    CONSTITUTIONAL FACT #2 : It is IMPOSSIBLE for female/female sex partners to PROCREATE.

    CONSTITUTIONAL FACT #3 : No human authority has the Right or Power to change Facts #1 & #2.

    CONSTITUTIONAL FACT #4 : Based upon Facts #1, #2 & #3 – It is UNLAWFUL to REDEFINE Marriage. No human authority has the SCIENTIFIC BIOLOGICAL Laws at their obedience to include that which humans are unable to EVER create & or PROVE in direct relation to marriage.

  162. I would think anyone fighting for gay rights would also have to fight for the rights of a brother able to mary his brother… All the same arguments apply (can’t help who we love, two consenting adults, it’s not a choice, Who are we to say who they can love? Who does it hurt?…Etc.)
    ______________________

    Or not. Good lord, this is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen on the internet.

    The people who comment on this site… Wow.

  163. The reason for incest being illegal isn’t strictly morality. Incest leads to inbreeding and lowers the overall (genetic) quality of the human race. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Male/Male sexual pairing and Female/Female sexual pairing – Biologically and Scientifically authoritatively speaking would produce what???

    Answer: ANNILIATION / EXTINCTION of it’s own design , intent , purpose and function.

    Therefore, all Gay couples should be left together without marriage and adoption of children since they are unable to FACTUALLY present the Legal & Lawful evidence of due diligence as DEFINED by SCIENCE as well as defined by moral code.

  164. Why does football have rules governing how the game is played? Why have a scoring system that includes different points for running a ball past a line rather than kicking a ball over a goal post bar?

    Rules keep the game not only enjoyable and exciting but are a requirement for making it playable. Rules allow everyone to understand what is allowed, what is not permitted, what penalties are exacted for infractions etcetera.

    Fairness in applying the rules requires that individuals as well as teams as a whole are treated the same, under the established rules, regardless of where the team is based, when they play, what State they play in, what day of the week they play on. If referees in one State applied their own particular religious views on keeping one day a week as a “holy day”, and used that belief to change play dates, what would happen?

    It’s the same with our country. We have a Federal Constitution that governs the Union. To be a member of the Union a State has to do two things. One is to agree that once admitted to the Union it will not leave. The other is to adopt the Federal Constitution as a part of their State Constitution. In return for agreeing to those two things a State receives the many blessings that become available by membership in the Union.

    What the Federal Constitution grants as civil rights to a group cannot be infringed by actions of a State Legislature. The Supreme Court is the branch of government that decides on the constitutionality of a law. A religious test is not an applicable component because we have no state establishment of any particular religion. That is forbidden by the Constitution, and for good reason.

    Humans are very susceptible to a belief we can know the mind of God. We are pulled to connect with the Devine so strongly that we allow ourselves to be enslaved to our creations of what we think the Divine mind is.

    When harnessed to that enslavement, we have, in the past and still happening today, committed horrible atrocities on one another, using religion as an excuse.

    Believing we know the mind of God can make us monsters.

    Religious conviction is not a safe way to judge whether a law is constitutional or not. It is not a safe way to decide what group or area or age, sex, race or country of origin will or won’t be protected by legally established civil rights.

    Substituting religious convictions for the Constitution is not safe, not fair, not wise and maybe not even very acceptable to the God some of us profess to believe in.

    That is why we have chosen to govern ourselves in a way that relies on a man-made set of rules using a variety of lawmaking techniques and review.

    Under this scenario we are not required to love all of our laws. We are not even required to like them.

    But we are required to respect them and to discipline ourselves enough to respectfully abide by them.

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