Bills think they can have the greatest defense ever

Confidence continues to pour out of Buffalo, as the arrival of Rex Ryan has made a major impact on the attitude of the Bills.

Multiple players on the Bills’ defense have said that they believe they can have the best defense in the history of the NFL this season.

We want to be the best in history — one of the greatest,” linebacker Nigel Bradham told the Toronto Sun. “That’s what we’re striving for … the greatest of all time, not just this year or last year.”

Asked about the defense’s goal for the season, Marcell Dareus answered, “Best ever. It’s so obtainable. All we have to do is continue to do what we want, and not what we can. If we do what we want, and do everything to head in that direction, why can’t we? Why can’t we?”

Dareus has bought into everything that Ryan is selling.

“We finally have a coach who will really lay it on the line for us,” he said. “I mean, Rex will make the tough calls and really put us in the position to win, regardless of whatever the stakes are. And he’s not going to be buddy-buddy. He’s like, ‘You’re a grown man and I’m going to tell it to you like it is.’ And that’s what we all need. We’re all grown men. To have somebody babying us, or somebody trying to micro-manage us — I mean, no man really wants to ever be under somebody’s thumb all the time. Rex is just that type of guy where he’s going to let you play ball, he’s going to put you in the best situations, and he’s going to do his best not to let you fail.”

Bills defensive tackle Kyle Williams echoed those sentiments.

“Yeah, I think big goals and big dreams produce pretty great things,” Williams said. “And if you’re not willing to put yourself out there and be held accountable to that, you’ll just be happy with any results that you get. That’s not what we want. We want to be the best.”

The Bills had one of the NFL’s best defenses last year and should have one of the NFL’s best defenses this year, too. But best ever? That’s a title often given to the 1985 Bears defense coached by Rex’s father, Buddy Ryan. The Bills have a long way to go before they’re in that company.

105 responses to “Bills think they can have the greatest defense ever

  1. “Multiple players on the Bills’ defense have said that they believe they can have the best defense in the history of the NFL this season.”

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    Fans now have a definitive answer re: whether or not Rex Ryan’s delusion-heavy influence has begun to permeate the team.

  2. Just more Rex being Rex. The thing is…after all the smoke clears, he’s weak when it comes to offense (his “ground and pound” philosophy, which demands that QBs not lose games, rather than go out and win them, is a real buzz kill), and even weaker when it comes to discipline. He’s a “player’s coach”, and his (defensive) players love him and will go the extra yard for him. But he lacks balance. And it shows. And it’s always shown.

  3. Bills will most likely have a top 10 Defense in the NFL with Rex Ryan.

    Not the best ever.

    The belongs to the Purple People Eaters of the 1970s.

    Not to mention the 2015 Minnesota Vikings revamped, youngest, most talented defense in the NFL will easily be the best in the NFL.

    With Anthony Barr, Harrison Smith, Xavier Rhodes, Chad Greenway, Eric Kendricks, Everson Griffen, Sharrif Floyd…

    We could easily have the best defense of all time this next Decade.

  4. New Yorks only team continues the tradition of the team from the Jersey swamps. Lots of talk prior to accomplishment.

  5. “Best in history”. C’mon man. The Bills won’t even be the best defense this year, let alone in history.

    This year’s best defense is between the Jets and the Texans.

  6. As usual, over the top with RRyan, but I wouldn’t sleep on this D. Their only weakness is depth and if Graham can transition to safety. They were 4th in both yrds and pts allowed last yr. Now they have the benefits of Ryan’s scheme in a division he knows well. They’re problem is still gonna be if anyone on the roster is much of an upgrade over Orton. Not seeing it. Still a 9 win team, IMO.

  7. The acorn doesn’t fall far from the team. Buddy taught Rex the 4-6 defense. It takes the right personnel. He has it now. The offense is loaded too. Bills win the division this year.

  8. These stats will likely continue to go unmatched in NFL history from a defense.

    1976 Pittsburgh Steelers Defense (14 game season):

    5 Shutouts

    8 games held opponent to less than 7 points

    In 14 regular season games the Steelers defense gave up an average of just 8 points per game scored against them

  9. The bills have had a very good defense the last couple of years and they have the players to be great. Rex Ryan is an aggressive defensive coach that can scheme with the best of them.

    I see two potential issues here. 1) Ryan’s defenses tend to lack discipline and he can allow too much latitude. (inmates running the asylum kinda deal) 2) The Bills defense was very good as a 4-3 but Rex schemes a 3-4 so there may be some square peg/round hole growing pains.

    On paper they look formidable but it might not jell as easily as they think. I’d bet they will be good but I won’t be shocked if there is a drop-off.

  10. I’d expect the Bills to do well on defense considering how much in resources they’ve spent.

  11. Only the Seahawks have had the #1 rated D 3 years running ’12-’14 since the Merger.

    the 2013 Seahawks rank with the 85 bears as the only D’s to lead the league in fewest yds against, fewest pts against and most turnovers in a single season.

    Yes, only the 2013 Seahawks and 1985 Bears since the Merger.

    With the Hawks #1 – 3 yrs running, the Bills are all lip service with Rex at the helm. They’re dynamite at times but aren’t consistent on a weekly basis.

  12. Rex’s dad had the best in 85 and I think Rex was part of the second best in 00 with the Ravens, the guy talks a lot of trash, but you cant say the family doesnt know defense…Now offense on the other hand

  13. Empty barells make the most noise and there are a lot of noise coming out of Buffalo these days. Enough said!!!

  14. The Bills and Vikings fans are smokin outta the same bong cuz the ’70’s Vikings are NOT even the top 10 all-time defenses …and Buffalo hasn’t won a playoff game since 1995 or been to one since 1999……. 6-10 ladies

  15. I agree – it is time to let the Bills play in the NFL

    welcome back from the CFL

    we missed you during the last 20 years

    now, try to be relevant

  16. Top 5 defense the past two seasons but you casual fans are to dumb to realize that.

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    No most fans are busy watching their time win games while the Bills are watching the Stat line. Number 1 defense on an 8 and 8 team doesn’t mean much.

  17. nyjetsfan24 says:
    Jun 29, 2015 8:25 PM
    The Bills will finish 6-10 this year.
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    At least we know where 2 of those 6 will come from right bud..

  18. No way they are as good or even close to being as good as the 76 Steelers or the 85 Bears. They will be good but best of all time? Only in terms of talking themselves up maybe.

  19. Their defense is very good but they’ll probably have to be the best defense ever if they want any shot at making the playoffs. Their QB situation is garbage. I think the Ravens in 2000 is still the best D I’ve ever seen. 10.3 points a game given up, a record for a 16 game season. Plus they only gave up a total of 23 points in 4 playoff games. That’s straight nasty

  20. Great goal they have the personnel to dream big. They have been fantastic the last two years so not a huge leap to historic. The run heavy offense should only help.

  21. Great defensive talent, and even coaching. But when you’re on the field more than you should be, when a league that favors offense, it only accounts for so many wins.

    Draft and develop a QB

  22. “All we have to do is continue to do what we want, and not what we can. ”

    Wait….what???

  23. There will never be a Defense like the 85 Bears or the 2000 Ravens. The NFL doesn’t want it, nor will they allow it to happen! Between the odds in Vegas and Fantasy Football making Billions? The days of a good Defensive team are over! Please spare me, with the Seattle Defense. They were good, not Shutdown good! Not like the The Stealers and Oakland of the 70’s good, or the 85 Bears, 86 Giants, 2000 Ravens, 2002 Bucs! Those days are long gone, never to come back! As the saying goes; “Some Men you just can’t reach.”So you get what we have here today. Which is the way he wants it,,, well he gets it!””

  24. My God this team is in for such a rude awakening. I’m so sorry Bills fans, I truly am. We all have been trying to warn you but to no avail. It’s so probably best if you just forget about football for a while. Come back in 2017 after Rex is gone and maybe get excited for the rebuild…

  25. catquick says:
    Jun 29, 2015 7:48 PM
    The acorn doesn’t fall far from the team. Buddy taught Rex the 4-6 defense. It takes the right personnel. He has it now. The offense is loaded too. Bills win the division this year.

    LOL firstly, it is called the 46 defense. Secondly, no team in NFL has the players to run it like the ’85 bears did. They had multiple HOF players on that D. Even with the Eagles a few years later, and 2 of the best defensive players in the game (Reggie White and Jerome Brown), it was not nearly as dominant as the bears D. And Lastly, the 46 defense is a run stopping defense, no idiot will use it all the time, when the game is a passing game now.

  26. Lets see how it plays out. I doubt they will be historically good but anything can happen folks. Lots of these commenters are so sure of how the season is going to turn out maybe they should go to Vegas, but then they’d actually have to put something on the line. SMH. Go Bills!

  27. Over-confidence breeds disappointment when things don’t go as well as expected. Disappointment breeds resentment when no one–from the coach down–wants to be blamed for not being “the best defense ever.”

    Resentment leads to discord. Discord to losing.

    Welcome to the Rex Ryan era in Buffalo.

  28. @ Deflatedfootballs : “not ranked better than 24 these past 4 years”

    Thats simply untrue. Check your facts.

    And to the commenters who stated that The Bills D will suck because Jim Schwartz is a bad coach…REALLY?! Did you even read the article?

    Rex may not be the greatest head coach, and I can understand why people dislike him, but no one can reasonably deny that he’s a hell of a defensive mind. Arguably the best in the NFL.

  29. When I don’t for my beloved Pats I root for the Bills (and Browns and Chiefs).

    It’s great to have faith in one another preseason, but man: long ways to go before you can put yourselves in a category with LoB, Pats Homeland, ’02 Bucs, ’00 Ravens, Buddy Ryan’s 46/Eagles Bounty Ds, Big Blue Wrecking Crew and those underrated 49er Ds of the 80s, Steel Curtain, Doomsday, PPE, No-Name.

    And that’s just the merger era.

  30. The J-E-T-S suck & they will always SUCK! that’s just the way it is and will always be as long as the Sun rises & sets in the west!

  31. now you can tell its a rex ryan defense..

    this guy talks way too much for a coach, he did a good job on the jets for a bit (esp with the d) but i felt he got wa too much credit for the ravens when marvin lewis “really created that D” and mike nolan preceded (though rex was more successful than him), and I don’t recall the ravens winning a Super Bowl with rex around as a coordinator not position coach?

    also forgot to mention never won anything being in major role with the org (coach/coorndinator)

  32. This time of year there is always some players who have never won anything, making bold claims about dream teams, dynastys, or best ever predictions. When it’s all said and done, these teams are never … NEVER … the last team stamding. Their season is over before it begins, sorry Buffalo.

  33. deflatedfootballs says:
    Jun 29, 2015 7:11 PM

    The Rex Ryan effect.. Not better then 24 ranked defense these past four years..
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    Bills d was ranked fourth last year plus rex ryan coached defenses routinely rank in the top 10 if not 5… It’s more of a fluke when his defenses are outside the top 10 than in

  34. Rex Ryan teams talk too much.

    Every off season the same thing – telling anyone that will listen how great they are. Then Sundays come around and its the same old underachieving bunch.

  35. Talk is cheap and you have to fill the pages while awaiting training camp but this isn’t all spin when the Bills defense is strong and deep everywhere. Aside from a pro bowl front four, Bradham and Brown at linebacker are pro bowl caliber as is Stefon Gilmore at cornerback. There are more than two other good cornerbacks and more than two good safeties. Capable backups too and several cuts will catch on with other teams. They’re stacked.

    While everyone is going on about Ryan’s bluster, his parting advice to the team was to report back in the best shape of your life and I think they all heard him.

  36. johnschatzan says:
    Jun 29, 2015 8:17 PM
    Top 5 defense the past two seasons but you casual fans are to dumb to realize that.
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    Or maybe we can tell the difference between Top 5 for a couple of seasons and “best in history”.

  37. What are they suppose to say? No, we stink? Look at some of the headlines on PFT this morning and you will see a lot of players and teams talking including the Dolphins QB.

  38. Look at the case of the Detroit Lions. Last year they had the #1 ranked defense and they were mean. They had Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate. They had Ebron and Pettigrew. they had Bell and Bush. They had Matt Stafford, who the Bills would love to have. He is probably still tier 3, but he’s getting better and he’s way better than average.

    The Patriots beat them 34-9.

    Brady can move the ball against elite defenses. The Bills have no QB and won’t be able easily to score on the Patriots.

    Even if it’s close, the Patriots will still be in the games that Brady plays. Bills certainly have a great shot to win the first one that Brady doesn’t play, but winning in NE will not be easy.

  39. Little known fact is that the Bills have finished in the top tier of a lot of defensive categories while still having a sub .500 record. Rex Ryan consistently coached top 5/top 10 Jets defenses while still missing the playoffs and getting himself fired. So yeah, I have every confidence they’ll have a really nice defense again. It’s that other thing I have my doubts about.

  40. I’m in my 40’s so I was a young fan of the 70s Steelers teams. That being said, the 2000 Ravens D was the best of all time. FOUR regular season shutouts. Least points allowed ever for a 16 game schedule. Only 23 points given up in 4 playoff games including the SuperBowl. Oh yeah, they held their opponents to 10 points or less in 17 out of 20 games they played that year…..

  41. The Bills will have a good D, no doubt. When it comes down to it though, the Patriots have the two best qb’s in the AFC east. Keep talking Rexy!!

  42. 50+ year Bills Fan. I think the Bills have the potential to be a great defense. Part of any good defense when you look at the year end stats, is the Offense being able to have long, time consuming drives to keep your own defense off the field. Having a back like Walter Payton churning out the yards, moving the sticks and the clock is necessary to a great defense. It is the Offense that I have questions about. The Bills will be looking at a lot of 8 in the box. If the O is running a lot of 3 and outs, the D will not be the best. Rex should probably show everyone how good the defense is,talk is cheap.

  43. Lot’s of Rex being Rex comments ,I guess I misssed the part of the article where he was talking all I read was players talking…seems fans are turning into media putting words in peoples mouth

  44. sbmcintosh36 says:
    Jun 30, 2015 9:12 AM
    Lot’s of Rex being Rex comments ,I guess I misssed the part of the article where he was talking all I read was players talking…seems fans are turning into media putting words in peoples mouth
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    It’s called cause and effect. It takes a little critical thinking, but it’s not that difficult.

    Were these players saying these things last year? No. Are they saying them this year? Yes.

    What’s changed? Is it possible that hiring a coach with a reputation for bombast and hype might rub off on his players?

  45. 12coltsfan12 says:Jun 30, 2015 7:44 AM

    Bills are a joke
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    We will see how much of joke they are when they crush the Colts the first game of the season.

  46. getakluwe says:
    Jun 29, 2015 7:20 PM
    Up there with the ’76 Steelers, ’85 Bears, ’00 Ravens and ’13 Seahawks–unquestionably.
    ==============================

    Okay, right even though the start of the season is 10 weeks out and they have to face the Dolphins and the Jets Ds. Jets D is the best on paper, farebeater than Buffalo.

    And you have Rex which is an automatic 10 point deduction. The Rex effect lasts two years at most.

  47. These stats will likely continue to go unmatched in NFL history from a defense.

    1976 Pittsburgh Steelers Defense (14 game season):
    5 Shutouts
    8 games held opponent to less than 7 points
    In 14 regular season games the Steelers defense gave up an average of just 8 points per game scored against them
    ____

    Not a Steeler fan, but the last 9 games of the 1976 season they gave up 28 points total and one TD, pitched 5 shutouts, 2 games giving up 3 pts, one game of 6, and one game of 16. In the last nine games, 28 points. That defense was scary good.

  48. billswillnevermove says:
    Jun 30, 2015 7:29 AM

    What are they suppose to say? No, we stink? Look at some of the headlines on PFT this morning and you will see a lot of players and teams talking including the Dolphins QB.

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    Those other teams aren’t saying they will be the greatest ever. You have to admit that’s a bit overboard before ever taking a snap.

    Imagine what it would take to be considered the greatest ever?

    Have to win at least 14 games.
    Have to average around 12 points allowed per game.
    Have to win the Super Bowl.

    Better than the Steel Curtain, 85 Bears, 2000 Ravens and 2013 Seahawks.

    It’s not likely.

  49. billswillnevermove says:
    Jun 30, 2015 9:41 AM

    12coltsfan12 says:Jun 30, 2015 7:44 AM

    Bills are a joke
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    We will see how much of joke they are when they crush the Colts the first game of the season.

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    Why do you think they can crush the Colts? The Colts are better then last year and they have an elite QB. The Bills should be thinking about scraping out a win in that game somehow because it will be tough.

  50. catquick says:
    Jun 29, 2015 7:48 PM

    The acorn doesn’t fall far from the team. Buddy taught Rex the 4-6 defense. It takes the right personnel. He has it now. The offense is loaded too. Bills win the division this year.

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    How can you say the offense is loaded when the most important player on the offense is in the bottom tier of NFL QBs.

    How are they loaded? Do they have the best WRs in the division? No.
    Do they have the best TE in the division? No.
    Do they have the best QB in the division? No.
    Do they have the best O Line in the division? No.

    Maybe they have best RB. I’ll give them that.

    They aren’t loaded.

    The defense will be good, but as I said in an earlier post, the Patriots offense made swiss cheese of elite defenses all last year. Rex maybe has a better shot given the Problems Brady has had with him in the past.

    To me the only hope for the Bills to win the division is for the Patriots to go no better than 2-4 while Brady is gone and to some how win both against Miami who have the better QB.

    They also have to win 6 0f 8 home games at least with NE, Dallas, Cinci, NYG and Indy all coming to town.

    Going to be tough.

  51. All you people saying the Bills will be lucky to win six games…. you guys do realize they were 9-7 last year, right? With Kyle Orton at QB, who didn’t even go to training camp and cared so little he left 5 million on the table by retiring?

  52. Most of these TROLLS on here posting really don’t know much about the buffalo bills in buffalo it’s a new era so stop the hating and buckle down for a WILD RIDE!!!!!!!

  53. Part of having a great defense statistically, is having an offense that can control the ball.

    Look at the Jets the last few years….. do you see even an adequate offense?

    Without an offense to support them, I just don’t see it happening……

  54. This defense has the potential, but how about trying to become the best defense Buffalo has ever seen first. Still a ways to go for that. But, they’re close. Rex and our D-Coaches could be the catalyst for it to happen. Go Bills!!!

  55. LMAO!!!!!!
    1. 104 COMMENTS, all I see are HATERS and TROLLS? JEALOUS MUCH. if you idiots werent so converned about what the bills are doing, then you wouldnt be wasting your time????

    2. rex ryan didnt fail the jets, the new owners did, by not signing players he wanted. when he had players, they went to 2 straight afc championships. THIS BILLS TEAM is way better across the board on paper then any team ryan had with the jets

    3. The bills front office has done a tremebdous job at drafting the past 2 years and signing players, OUR players were way better then doug Marrones coaching abilities and have held our team back.

    4. HAVE YOU guys forgot what greg roman did with the niners offense in there championship runs?

    5. Mike Petine took what he learned from REX came to buffalo two years ago and trunes our defense around, and Schwartz was able to make em better, and now REX is here and this Defense is gonna be ridiculous. REX didn’t have the players on D the past 2 years that the bills have had.

    6. The players said it themselves, they have been handcuffed and treated like babies bc of Doug Marrone, now they are ready to UNLEASH.

    7. The coaches are suppose to be confident in the team they have… And I don’t think they have been as open as they want to be.. Besides just saying they have the tools to be a playoff team, that’s what I wanna hear from my coaches. They are not guaranteeing anything, they just know what they COULD BE.

    8. ALL YOU DAMN HATERS AND TROLLS SHOULD JUST QUIT,, AND REALLY WISH I COULD SEE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO SAY WHEN THE BILLS MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

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