The NFL’s scientific consultant has bigger problems than the Wells report

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After the NFL hired outside investigator Ted Wells to handle the #DeflateGate probe, Wells retained a firm known as Exponent to provide scientific and mathematical support.

Initially, Columbia University was mentioned as a potential consultant for Wells, but that never materialized — possibly because Columbia wouldn’t reach the conclusion Wells wanted Columbia to reach. Instead, Wells picked Exponent, litigation-support firm that once concluded second-hand smoke doesn’t cause cancer in exchange for a likely sizable fee from one or more tobacco companies.

“Exponent’s research has come under fire from critics, including engineers, attorneys and academics who say the company tends to deliver to clients the reports they need to mount a public defense,” the Los Angeles Times wrote in 2010. (Exponent predictably denied the allegation.)

Most recently, Exponent has come under fire not for what it delivered but for what it didn’t deliver. Via WEEI.com, a court order entered earlier this month in Illinois found Exponent to be in violation of a court order requiring the company to produce certain documents in a civil lawsuit. Exponent tried to advance a couple of flimsy legal privileges for failing to comply, but the court ultimately found Exponent to be in violation of a prior court order — and the violation of a court order is a big deal in any form of litigation.

“[T]he Court cannot allow Exponent to stand in violation of a valid Court order compelling the production of documents which were demanded pursuant to a lawful subpoena and found relevant by the Court,” Judge Stephen A. Stobbs wrote in the June 2, 2015 order. “Methodologically sound science has nothing to fear from full and open disclosure.”

The last part makes a lot of sense, and it bolster our prior argument that the NFL should release all communications between Wells and Exponent, in order to allow the Patriots, Tom Brady, and the media to scrutinize whether Exponent provided an honest and objective analysis to Wells or whether Exponent gave Wells precisely what Wells was buying — a finding that the Patriots tampered with the air pressure in the footballs used in the AFC title game.

In the Illinois case, Exponent was required to reimburse the party seeking the documents for all legal fees relating to the pursuit of the materials, along with a $1,000 fine for each day that the company failed to deliver the documents, if the documents weren’t produced by June 23, 2015.

In this case, Exponent is facing no financial liability. But Exponent is facing a significant potential blow to its credibility. If it had any remaining credibility after claiming that second-hand smoke doesn’t cause cancer.

106 responses to “The NFL’s scientific consultant has bigger problems than the Wells report

  1. Any attorney worth his salt knows not to put correspondence swaying the outcome in writing to an expert. All correspondence between the attorney and his hired expert is discoverable and routinely demanded during litigation. If wells asked for a predetermined outcome, he better have made it over the phone.

  2. Brady is going to skate thanks to yet another case of massive NFL main office bumbling. How does Goodell get paid millions for being an incompetent bungler on half of the things he touches?

  3. I would say I was shocked, but I’m not. The NFL and Wells knew what they wanted to do from the beginning and trumped up a report full of lies to say whatever they wanted to say. The commissioner and his entire office must go.

  4. How is this company in business, let alone representing an industry that makes stupid money, despite itself?

    Oh yeah. We love football thus the ‘despite itself ‘ deal.

    Goodell makes 50 million a year and he just seems as bozo as Jerry and Woody, who both make way more.

    The rest of us civil servant, middle class types just scratch our heads and head out into rush hour traffic knowing it is all about luck because some real dummies run the NFL…

  5. Anybody with even a slightly functioning brain can see that the NFL has set this up from the beginning.. Almost like there trying to manipulate ppl into believing they have integrity for the game…

  6. So the NFL had 2 chances to get this right. The first time, they lied about the raw psi levels (ie, 11 of 12 being 2 psi under the limit). And then Wells hires hired-gun Exponent, which produces a scientific appendix that turned out to be as useless as the human appendix. Interesting.

  7. Goodell used his corrupt powers to illegally go after the Saints (Bountygate), the Redskins and the Cowboys (trumped up salary cap violations) and now he’s after the NE on a fake charge.

    The man needs to be stopped. We need a real commissioner who takes down PED abusers like Von Miller. And women beaters aka the Baltimore Ravens.

    Travesty.

  8. No cracks in the Brady camp

    Too bad to see the earth slowly slipping away beneath Wells and Exponent – such high quality people.

    Cant wait for the new NFL job posts – NFL seeks high integrity mathematics/physics student capable of conducting high school level scientific analysis. Also seeks highly trained forensics expert capable of deciphering pile of rubbish purchased for $5million and dumbing the answer down to a level at which NFL authorities can comprehend what they bought.

  9. Lol, and this surprises who, if you had half a brain you would know it was a skewed biased investigation to begin with. Now, lets put that aside, how do soft balls affect the outcome of a game again? Last i checked the Colts were getting their butts kicked, and if you think that may have made a difference as ludicrous as that sounds, i saw Brady dog walk the legion of boom with regular balls or whatever in the SB.

  10. What a cluster fudge. Cheating is cheating but think about how many millions have been spent, stories written, the amount of segments on sports radio, etc. have been spent and wasted over a couple pounds of air pressure in a football. First world problems at their finest.

  11. “In this case, Exponent is facing no financial liability.”
    Yet.

    If this makes it to federal court, I suspect the discovery will destroy Exponent, Wells, and likely several people in the NFL front office.

  12. None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!! That IS, and always will be the problem. That won’t go away, no matter what any expert says.

  13. When it comes to deflategate – framegate, the NFL doesn’t just look dumb, it looks dirty. This story makes them look even dirtier.

  14. How the heck did Ted Wells get this job. This has to be either some of the worst attorney work I have heard of or there was a predetermined outcome.

  15. Its become too easy to create doubt. Unfortunate but true.

    Given the NFL had previously never given two flyin f’s about air pressure, they should have assumed the worst and fined Brady 25k as per the suggested punishment of the CBA, and then come out with stricter gameday protocols. Done!

    Drawing this out makes everybody look stupid.

  16. Brady is asked to present relevant information, and many people don’t seem to care. Yet they will jump all over this company. Now don’t me wrong, this company is super shady, but so is the dude who was terrible in Ted 2, Tom Brady.

  17. Not only did the NFL refuse to correct the initial false leaked information, but wouldn’t even tell the Pats the psi levels until mid March AND they were then told they couldn’t disclose those psi levels publicly.

    Ben Volin may now say Brady’s penalty is too much, but he’s guilty of fanning the flames at the beginning essentially accepting the initial accusations with blind faith and then using those accusations to throw BB and Brady under the bus. At some point he became more balanced but his initial fan flaming is unforgivable. Go look at his texts when the story broke. You’d think Innocent till proven guilty would be a real reporter’s first thought, but not in Ben Volin’s anti patriots universe.

  18. I really want to say I’m done with the NFL after this unbelievable mess caused by the front office, but the product it puts out is so good, I will probably still watch 60-70 games this year, including all 16 of New England’s+Playoffs.

    I just don’t understand how the league could be so stupid. I usually like to give the benefit of the doubt with large organizations like the NFL, but I mean the evidence is overwhelming. I don’t know, if Brady is exonerated, I don’t see how Goodell or any of the cronies in charge here could keep their jobs. It’s just embarrassing overall. Hell, if I’m Brady, even if I’m exonerated I’m suiting. This league, if there is as much corruption as it looks, needs to be overhauled.

  19. The pieces just continue to fall away in this sham they have built around Tom Brady. The NFL has lost its integrity in its attempt to “protect the integrity of the game”

  20. I’ve noticed people fall into two camps with deflate gate.

    Those who have watched it closely, been shaking their heads the entire time with disbelief

    as well as

    Those who knew Brady was guilty before they even heard what the charge was.

    Basically people who know what deflate gate is and those who just don’t like the Patriots.

    Deflategate is more accurately frame gate.

  21. The link, contained within the article titled “tends to deliver to clients the reports they need,” is EYE-POPPING in its own right. I had no idea that Exponent helped support the insurance companies to reduce their payouts for the World Trade Center attack in 2001! Slimeballs.

    I know the Patriots garner alot of hatred from opposing fans, but they are simply a sports team.. Exponent is, and always has been in the back-pocket of large business at the expense of the common person.

    Read that link, it will make you shake your head in disbelief.

  22. catquick says:
    Jun 30, 2015 12:19 AM
    None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!! That IS, and always will be the problem. That won’t go away, no matter what any expert says.

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    when didn’t he cooperate? He made himself available for interview by the Wells team. They already had Jastremski’s and Mcnally’s phone records and email from the Pats. In case you are having issues with the way those electronic correspondance work, that means they had all of Brady’s communications to them as well. Which means they already possess everything that Brady could have that is related to this case. Asking for anything beyond that needs to be better defined than just “well, give us your phone so we can be sure.” That is a phishing expedition. Pure and simple. Quit with the sour grapes already. Brady isn’t hiding anything. He has been up front about this the whole time. You, the NFL and all of the other naysayers simply want Brady to be guilty of something. You want the pats to be guilty of cheating. Even though, the Wells report proves that no wrong doing occurred, Brady and the Pats had nothing to do with the reduction in air pressure in those game balls. Deal with it.

  23. @catquick please pull your head out of the sand. Handing over your cell phone is not required for full co-operation. Brady complied with the process and did what was asked of him in accordance with the CBA which is all that matters.

  24. The more I read about this Wells character the more i’m convinced that he’s going to hear from the NY Bar Assoc. Grievance Committee when all is said and done.

  25. can’t wait for this to get into FEDERAL court and the smirking pompous GOODELL gets his ass handed to him…

  26. Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!!
    _____________________________

    I understand that people are jealous of their success and hate the Patriots, Brady, Belichick, etc. Domination, got it, easy to understand.

    What I don’t get is this fixation with Brady didn’t cooperate, I guess thats code for he didn’t admit to something he says he didn’t do?

    Where were you when Brett Favre refused to hand over his phone, I don’t remember any uproar. Please go picket him at his HOF induction, if you don’t, you’re a fraud.

  27. @catquick – Given how we’ve seen the NFL operate in these investigations, why the hell would Brady cooperate? I see no guilt assumed by refusing to take part in a sham investigation, and I’m a Dolphin fan.

  28. Personal email and phone records…. What douche would give his personal email and phone records to his or her boss if they asked for it?
    No one… So quit saying he didn’t cooperate. It’s not a criminal investigation. Too many arm chair lawyers think they understand what Brady did and didn’t do. He did what was required and nothing more.

  29. Roger Dodger has all the”new” info he needs. See you in court sonny. Unless he drops the suspension that’s exactly where it’s going. Goodell will lose again.

  30. But of course to the haters this will mean nothing and perhaps they also believe second hand smoke can’t cause cancer or that the Easter Bunny is real. The truth is ‘real’ science most likely doesn’t support the Wells report and frankly this investigation never should of even reached this point because there is no solid proof that the Patriots did anything to the balls. But the vindictive underlings of Goodell couldn’t help themselves. So all the Patriot and Brady haters can GO SUCK AN EGG!!!!!!!

  31. So what your saying is Exponent is in trouble for not fully co-operating by not handing over information…….ironic?!?!?

  32. Wow, you can just imagine my surprise that just maybe Exponent delivered exactly what Wells wanted. Given the NFL’s refusal to deny the false -2 pounds for 11 balls report, (and the fact that it probably leaked this misinformation to begin with) it is completely consistent with the direction the NFL was pushing from the start. That single act by the NFL (or inaction as it turned out) created this mess more than anything else. Almost from the jump, the media and fans of opponents formed their negative opinions. Even fans of the Pats had some initial doubts. Once this avalanche began the NFL had no choice but to continue to feed this monster they had created.

  33. “The last part makes a lot of sense, and it bolster [sic] our prior argument that the NFL should release all communications between Wells and Exponent, in order to allow the Patriots, Tom Brady, and the media to scrutinize…”

    That “argument” has less merit than the Wells report itself. Say what you want about the league, the owners, the NFLPA and the players, but at least they have the legal standing to make all the arguments, assert the claims, and take the actions this site spends so much time criticizing. Said standing being derived from the collective bargaining agreement.

    The same cannot be said for the “argument” that the league should release anything for the media to scrutinize. There is absolutely basis in law to support the claim. A free press is guaranteed by the Constitution as a check on government. Not private entities such as the NFL. Or NBC, or ProFootballTalk, etc.

    The Wells report may be egregiously flawed, but at least it had the authority and the standing to make its findings. That is far more than can be said for the media’s assertion that it has the same right to review the communications between Wells and Exponent as Tom Brady. It doesn’t. And claiming that it does is holding itself out as being something that it is not. A reckless assertion quite similar to the purported reckless conclusions of the Wells report. And equally misleading.

    When attacking the credibility of another, one should be able to support their own.

  34. Many “Independent” statisitcal/analytical firms are notorious for delivering what their customers ask for rather than for rigorous and accurate analysis…that is why they exist in the first place.

  35. I know two children that died of second hand smoke..I get really mad when some idiot like brockwarrener disputes what is now a proven fact so they can continue to smoke around others..

  36. The NFL’s scientific consultant has bigger problems than the Wells report

    I’d say so! Between the forensic evidence process of finding out who’s on Tom Coughlin’s lawn to the DNA transfer evidence to prove that Marshawn Lynch grabbed his “ding ding”… how the hell are they ever going to search every single player’s computers/cell phones/tablets??

  37. “Methodologically sound science has nothing to fear from full and open disclosure.”

    Precisely why Roger Dodger heard the appeal himself. The science was a joke and won’t stand scrutiny by an independant hearings officer.

    The court case will force him to appoint one and Brady gets exonerated.

  38. catquick, you do know that AEI and Bob Kraft have no connection, right? That was a different Kraft group. You also know that Brady & Gostowski both refused to turn over their cell phones (which is only thing Wells said is where Brady did not cooperate) because their agents advised them against setting a precedent for future players (which these dumb NFL players should be grateful for)….which makes sense since Brady was one of four players who sued league few years back & Gostowski is the Pats player rep. Also that the precedent for not turning over a personal cell phone had been set by Favre at $50k fine. Plus the Pats were concerned from the beginning because at 1/2 time & right after the game NFL front office people had already started accusing them of wrongdoing, even though no one really knew anything about the ideal gas law at that point….so it was clear from get go that NFL had determined Pats were guilty and wanted to prove it.

    Hey I understand people like you who can not come to terms with why your team is not as good and facts are not your friend…but your tears are still soooo sweet.

  39. Wells used anything that put the Patriots in the negative light, especially the gauges, he totally dismissed the gauge that found 3 of the 4 Colts balls under inflated. The report is a joke.

  40. None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!!
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    Ok, say he didn’t, that deserves a 4 game suspension? What’s the precedence for that? Favre didn’t cooperate when the NFL was investigating him and all he got was a fine.
    In the same report, Gostowski didn’t turn over his phone and got no punishment.

  41. If Wells (and Goodell) are smart enough to put their egos aside for 15 minutes, they’d capitalize on this: they’d get Columbia to review Exponent’s testing, data, and data analysys and issue a report. If Columbia confirms Exponent’s results, then that gets Wells and Goodell off the hook in regards to Exponent’s credibility. If Columbia cannot confirm Exponents results and issues a report like AEI’s, then Wells should throw Exponent under the bus, change the conclusion of his report to “inconclusive”, and Goodell should revise the punishments to Brady and the Patriots accordingly.

    As the saying goes, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and the weakest link right now is Exponent.

  42. I agree with amchez11 mostly, it’s not that unfortunate, Brady’s actual guilt or innocence is almost immaterial at this point. The report isn’t good enough to be used as a valid basis for a month long suspension. I know some of the other factors exist but the science is still far and away the most important part of the evidence and what does that tell us? It leans far away from intentional or artificial deflation. As it’s still pro-sports I won’t say innocent but I have no problem saying not guilty.

  43. Methodologically sound science has nothing to fear from full and open disclosure.

    Somebody tell Brady that applies to claims of innocence with regard to his phone data as well.

  44. catquick says:

    None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!! That IS, and always will be the problem. That won’t go away, no matter what any expert says.
    _________________________________________

    But, but, but…WAHHHH!!!

    I know this will be difficult for you, but please try and follow along. If nothing was wrong with the footballs then there was nothing to cooperate with. If you put the “wells reports aside”, like you suggest, then what does he need to cooperate with? The whole “not cooperating” fiasco came from the Wells report…smh.

    What “IS, and always will be the problem” is haters like yourself not seeing the truth in the facts that have been provided.

    In conclusion: If nothing happened then there is nothing to cooperate with.

  45. Actually, there is no proof that second-hand smoke causes cancer. In fact, even if you look at the supposedly unbiased studies there is absolutely no proof. And it is highly unlikely that it does, or at the very least it is a tenuous connection. Everyone alive today over, say, 45, grew up where there was second hand smoke everywhere they went. Even anti-smoking studies have shown spouses who don’t smoke but lived in the same house with a smoker for 30, 40, 50 years have no lower life-expectancy (or cancer) than anyone else. There are some bad studies out there, and it gets complicated (lifestyle, exercise etc.) but that is no reason to just assume things.

  46. “Via WEEI.com, a court order entered earlier this month in Illinois found Exponent to be in violation of a court order requiring the company to produce certain documents in a civil lawsuit. Exponent tried to advance a couple of flimsy legal privileges for failing to comply, but the court ultimately found Exponent to be in violation of a prior court order — and the violation of a court order is a big deal in any form of litigation.”

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    Isn’t this what Exponent is accusing Brady of? Non-cooperation.

  47. catquick says:
    Jun 30, 2015 12:19 AM

    None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!! That IS, and always will be the problem. That won’t go away, no matter what any expert says.
    _____________________________________

    He didn’t cooperate according to Wells and Goodell!!! The repeated liars and masters of the witch hunt? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!!!??? Brady testified for over 4 hours and answered EVERY question they presented to him. It was after all the questioning they wanted the phone and Brady was absolutely CORRECT by telling them to SUCK IT!!! They had ZERO right to even ask. Goodell made that rule up about cell phones and it is against the Collective Bargaining Agreement unless it is a phone supplied by the league/team. He is married to the highest paid super model in the world!!! Would you let someone snoop around your cell phone under those conditions even if it was your agent? If your wife possibly sent you intimate texts would you let your best friend rifle thru your phone? The phone argument by HATERS is about as idiotic as Wells and Goodell and the rest of the KEYSTONE COPS under their spell. The 2 ball/equipment employees would have sung like canaries (even if to friends and family) if there was any truth to any of this. The press has made up one scenario after another quoting “SOURCES” why not just go to the horses mouth. Both these guys could have made a ton of money for giving up their story if it was juicy enough. Obviously the truth doesn’t sell and that is why they are silent.

  48. catquick says:
    Jun 30, 2015 12:19 AM

    None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!! That IS, and always will be the problem. That won’t go away, no matter what any expert says.
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    Wrong! On so many levels. The Ideal Gas Law is the baseline argument in this entire fraud of an investigation. Kraft hiring his own firm is exactly what the NFL did when going after Brady and the were able to trash the report because the report is TRASH! Brady was wise to not hand over his phone because, as proven by the use of Exponent, Wells and the NFL were not interested in the truth but rather getting the outcome they wanted. No matter what correspondence was on Brady’s phone it would have been shaped to frame him.

    And the best part..you are so butt hurt by this it is hilarious to watch! LMAO!

  49. bobulated says:
    Jun 29, 2015 11:49 PM

    Brady is going to skate thanks to yet another case of massive NFL main office bumbling. How does Goodell get paid millions for being an incompetent bungler on half of the things he touches?
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    Brady is going to skate because he’s innocent.

  50. Currently these are the actions by Goodell and the NFL NYC Office.

    1.) Coercion through Unchecked Rogue Authority that undermines the Foundations of Impartial Justice supported by Due Process.
    2.) GUILTY until Proven Innocent
    3.) Arbitrary & Extreme Overboard Punishment (EOP) without the requirements of sufficient evidence or substantiated discovery of facts. Ruling on opinionated “More Likely than Not” phishing scams.
    4.) Extreme Overboard Punishment (EOP) is a predetermined method enabling Authoritarian Leverage that is used to Pressure Cook the Accused making them moldable to accepting guilt for a more lenient sentence.
    5.) Framing & Slandering of innocent/accused Party using the Media to perform as a Jury with a verdict that is n compliance with the NFL.
    6.) Rejecting of Scientific Evidence that does not agree with the Pre-Determined Prosecutorial End Product.
    7.) Now seeking tech savy enablers to utilize spying/phishing technology for more thorough social & private media sensitive info for substantiating & FABRICATING all of the above.

  51. The only thing that makes any sense for the NFL is to suspend all penalties for 2015 and spend the season measuring game balls before and after games to see the laws of physics applies to the NFL (they do).

    This will get MUCH worse when it comes out that every NFL team playing in temps below 60 F “cheated” since the dawn of the league.

  52. smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktops, gmail accounts, exchange servers, all other email and text correspondence of Wells, Exponent, Kensil, Goodell, that other former Jet clown involved, etc., should be open for review and scrutiny for Brady’s team before Tom ever gives up his phone.
    There is big $ at stake here.

    What a Sham. 2nd hand smoke is not harmful?
    The NFL’s whole case is as flimsy as the Colts ability to stop the run

  53. In any police investigation, the question is always Cui bono….who benefits…in order of priority I would suggest:

    1. Kensil. He has an axe to grind. A frustrated Jets front office man who is worn down by the Patriots success. The Jets can’t get it done on the field, so since he has the power, he decided to go after Brady and BB off the field.

    2. Harbaugh. Absolutely humiliated in the “illegal formation” game. Brady goes on to tell him to read the rule book….imagine if you thought you were an expert at your craft…mechanic, banker, lawyer and you were outsmarted and told to go back to the manual or the policy book or law school…you would be pissed and would want revenge. You could not get it done on the field so you have to try another way.

    3. Pogano. Wants to help out his friend and former boss Harbaugh AND he wants to mess with Brady during the AFC Championship game. He knows Brady is particular about the balls…he figures he will get a little revenge for his former head coach Harbaugh and mess with Brady’s head a little during a big game…(cheating or gamesmanship?) Can’t get it done on the field, so has to do it off the field.

    4. Goodell. He makes $35M a year. One of his main jobs is to “protect the integrity of the game”…yet he totally whiffed on Ray Rice (he did not see the tape..com’on then he should be firing people in his office!)…he messed up Petersen and Bountygate. Does anyone really think they are worth $35M per year? He is in job preservation mode here and came down on Brady and BB…why… because most of the other owners HATE the success of the Pats and want to see them damaged…He takes a little poll and the owners all say come down hard…we can’t get it done on the field, so we have to get it done another way…but how will he justify it…pay $7M for a bogus report from NFL bag man Ted Wells and then Wells finds Exponent…an “expert” who is given the answer and asked to solve for the question….meanwhile the referees and Kensil do a “shotgun” test on the balls for less than a 15 minute halftime. They know nothing about ideal gas law or anything else…these are football guys…and the testing worthless.

    5. Fans of other football teams. If you keep posting about “proof of cheating” you are guaranteed to be a fan of a team that has lost regularly to the Pats in the past 15 years…especially if your team is in the AFC, or you hate Brady for his life, or BB for his personality. Good luck with that…I feel badly for your dog who you must kick regularly…. Can’t get it done on the field, so have to try to do it off the field….

    See a pattern here? Cui bono…who benefits from the fall of Brady and BB?

  54. None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!! That IS, and always will be the problem. That won’t go away, no matter what any expert says.
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    So fine him $50K which is what Brett Favre was fined. Or fine him $20K which is what the Chargers were fined for not cooperating with the league in regards to the “sticky towel”. The $20K fine was later dropped.

  55. How easy it would have been for the NFL to just drop it. The cover-up is worse than the crime, but normally the cover-up isn’t performed by the prosecution.

  56. I am not a smoker and I don’t care about Brady. However the last sentence in your article is false. There is no scientific proof that smoking causes cancer let alone second hand smoke. It is a theory. It is a hypothesis. It has never been proven by real science. In an unrelated topic neither has Darwin’s theory of evolution. It is a theory that many scientist believe in but there is no way to prove scientifically. Because you believe something to be fact doesn’t make it so. Speaking strictly about the real science neither of the above has ever been proven. An by the way. When the media reports the consensus among many scientists is that smoking causes cancer or that all living things evolved from something else they are incorrect. There is no consensus in real science.

  57. But but but….Brady won’t want to go to court because phone and discovery!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!!1!!1!

    Hate to break it to Patriot Hater but yes he most certainly does want to go to court because phone and discovery. 🙂

    #PatriotHaterFearsTheTruth
    #YesTheyDo

  58. Clam,

    Would you really give up your phone to the NFL front office and Kensil if you knew he was on a witch hunt and was the person who leaked the misinformation about 12 of 13 balls being under pressure? Giving up the phone could include personal info about Brady and his wife, their kids, texts between Brady and BB and players regarding plays or tactics…discussions between Brady and his financial advisor.. this would be unadvisable for anyone, especially if he felt people in the NFL office had a vendetta against him. No attorney would advise that. Agreed fine him like they fined the Chargers or the Vikings, but also say that there is no actual evidence that he cheated. Using Shady Brady means you have to be a homer for another AFC team…which one?

  59. Basic 101 law . Always talk to your expert verbally before he supplies you with a written report. Make sure experts notes are clean. They
    are clearly discoverable. Brady should and most likely will have the ability to review the expert’s notes on how they reached the conclusion
    Many a lawyers cases have gone down the sink when the other side
    gets the experts notes particularly when there are several written drafts of a report. .

  60. This will get MUCH worse when it comes out that every NFL team playing in temps below 60 F “cheated” since the dawn of the league.

    The League has nothing to do with the integrity of the weather. What they do have control over is the integrity of the game and the people who play it. So when one of them cheats in order to exercise an advantage over their opponent, that’s where they step in. That falls directly into their bailiwick.

  61. “4thqtrsaint says:
    Jun 30, 2015 8:33 AM
    Cause of death: Second hand smoke.

    This has never been on anyone’s death certificate.”


    Smoke (primary or second-hand) can cause cancer. This is not in dispute in the scientific/medical community.

  62. Goodell is now in deep kimchee… He let this ridiculous issue get out of control. I fear that he was manipulated by his Patriots hating minions and bullied into hiring Wells … He is weak. A terrible terrible leader.

    The best thing to do now is admit defeat. Exonerate Brady and Patriots. Issue a statement saying that the league will focus on the lax game day procedures of maintaining the Footballs.

    Then Resign.

  63. catquick says:
    Jun 30, 2015 12:19 AM

    None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!! That IS, and always will be the problem. That won’t go away, no matter what any expert says.
    _____________________________

    Ummm. you do know that the Kraft Foundation that is an AEI sponsor has no ties to Bob Kraft? Florio has even stated that in his posts.

    And Brady sat for over 5 hours of interviews. He simply refused to turn over a personal cell phone to people known to leak information.

    Also, if it really were about not cooperating then why is the penalty so out of line with the prior penalties for such offenses like Brett Favre being fines 50k and the Chargers $20k for the stickum towel?

    The league is trying to hide its own internal corruption and power struggles via distraction techniques.

  64. It’s more probable than not the NFL Network will censor signs brought by Patriots fans on NFL Opening Night 2015. I hope someone is stationed outside Gillette Stadium on , capturing video of the signs Pats fans bring in, because otherwise we’ll probably never see them.

  65. the American Cancer Society’s website has about 2nd hand smoke:

    Secondhand Smoke

    According to the 2014 Surgeon General’s Report, there have been more than 20 million smoking-related deaths in the United States since 1964; 2.5 million of those deaths were among non-smokers who died from exposure to secondhand smoke. During that same time, 100,000 babies have died due to parental smoking (including smoking during pregnancy).

    and this:

    Surgeon General’s reports: Findings on smoking, secondhand smoke, and health

    Since 1964, 32 tobacco-related US Surgeon General’s reports have been written to make the public aware of the health issues linked to tobacco and SHS. The ongoing research used in these reports still supports the fact that tobacco and SHS are linked to serious health problems that could be prevented. The reports have highlighted many important findings on SHS, such as:
    • SHS kills children and adults who don’t smoke.
    • SHS causes disease in children and in adults who don’t smoke.
    • Exposure to SHS while pregnant increases the chance that a woman will have a spontaneous abortion (miscarriage), stillborn birth, low birth-weight baby, and other pregnancy and delivery problems.
    • Babies and children exposed to SHS are at an increased risk of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), upper respiratory and lung infections, ear infections, and more severe and frequent asthma attacks.
    • Smoking by parents can cause wheezing, coughing, bronchitis, and pneumonia, and slow lung growth in their children.
    • SHS immediately affects the heart, blood vessels and circulation in a harmful way. Over time it can cause heart disease, strokes, and heart attacks.
    • SHS causes lung cancer in people who have never smoked. Even brief exposure can damage cells in ways that set the cancer process in motion. The Surgeon General estimates that living with a smoker increases the chance of getting lung cancer by 20% to 30%.
    • Chemicals in tobacco smoke damage sperm, which might reduce fertility and harm fetal development. SHS is known to damage sperm in animals, but more studies are needed to find out its effects on humans.
    • There is no safe level of exposure to SHS. Any exposure is harmful.
    • Millions of Americans, both children and adults, are still exposed to SHS in their homes and workplaces despite a great deal of progress in tobacco control. In fact, almost half of non-smokers and more that 60% of children in the US continue to be exposed.
    • On average, children are exposed to more SHS than non-smoking adults.
    • The only way to fully protect non-smokers from exposure to SHS indoors is to prevent all smoking in that indoor space or building. Separating smokers from non-smokers, cleaning the air, and ventilating buildings cannot keep non-smokers from being exposed to SHS

  66. @mightbegoingtohellforthis says: Jun 30, 2015 9:41 AM

    “The Delfator” deflated the footballs because Tom Brady bribed him to.

    ______

    In 2006 , The competition committee, At the behest of Tom Brady and Payton Manning, Changed the rules to allow quarterbacks to prepare the balls being used in the game. With that quarterbacks are now allowed to instruct the equipment people (if necessary) to change the air pressure to get the games balls to their liking.

    Since it is impossible to know the context of the conversation Wells put in his report, he concluded this must mean they are deflating balls below the league league require minimum of 12.5 psi and Brady told them to cheat.

    This is hardly the case… They are allowed by league rules to change the air pressure, but not below 12.5 psi. Nowhere in that conversation did they insinuate (or otherwise) that they ever deflated the balls below 12.5 psi.

    This point is lost in the wells report.

    There is no confession… They don’t know what the air pressure was before the game started (it wasn’t written down) and the leak to ESPN was “dead wrong”

    The science Wells used to bolster his conclusions are now officially being bebunked.

    The more time goes on … the worse it looks for the league… You have to see that sir… unless of course you don’t deal in facts… just hate…

    Just saying…

  67. “Brady is going to skate thanks to yet another case of massive NFL main office bumbling…”

    If Brady does, in fact “skate,” it will be thanks to the fact that the footballs were not deflated, and therefore, no infraction took place.

  68. Brady never cheated neither did the Patriots. Why can’t people see this. To many have become sheep that sit and wait everyday for those in power to tell them how to think. Wake up people and realize the corrupt NFL offices are to blame here.

  69. @12coltsfan12

    Thank you Colts Fan for your objectivity. I especially appreciated after these accusations were made, that the Colt’s QB readily admitted that the Patriots had beat them on the field. Your QB seems like a really nice guy in every interview I’ve seen him in.

  70. @quizlingclinic

    Are you seriously saying that second hand smoke does not cause damage? And aligning yourself with the Wells Law Firm that was hired to persuade the public that is true? Do you also agree then, with Big Oil who hired them to convince the public that oil spills don’t damage the ocean?

    If that’s where you want to stand….just another example of Patriot foes who are irrational.

  71. @RegisHawk

    “This will get MUCH worse when it comes out that every NFL team playing in temps below 60 F “cheated” since the dawn of the league.”

    You certainly missed the point.

    This statement means, that the Patriots balls and the Colts balls had a lower psi because of the temperature on the field the day of the AFC game. If you extrapolate that, it means that in every NFL game, where the temperature is cold, you will find the same reduction in psi. But since the NFL has never cared about the psi of the footballs, they’ve never paid attention to measuring it during the game. So in all probability during any hot or cold day, the psi reading will not be the same as the pre game measurement if the outside temperature is significantly different then the room temperature where the balls were measured before the game.

    Therefore, if you find the Patriots guilty of deflating the balls you may end up finding all the NFL teams in the League guilty if you measure the balls before, during and after the games for every game all season.

    Therefore, if this is cheating, then every team cheats.

  72. “lizzzy321 says:
    Jun 30, 2015 12:52 PM
    @quizlingclinic

    Are you seriously saying that second hand smoke does not cause damage? And aligning yourself with the Wells Law Firm that was hired to persuade the public that is true? Do you also agree then, with Big Oil who hired them to convince the public that oil spills don’t damage the ocean?

    If that’s where you want to stand….just another example of Patriot foes who are irrational.”


    You are confusing me with someone else

  73. Here is my idea for what Goodell should do, if he has any integrity of course.

    First – he would set up a press conference where he would tell the world that the NFL has made a mistake. He would talk about how the air pressure in footballs rule has been around for a very long time, but that it hasn’t been enforced. He would explain how a rule that directly relates to the integrity of the game has gotten so little attention all these years, and why the refs never felt the need to record the air pressure of each ball before the game, or check to see if it is the same after the game. He would admit that if the refs had been checking the pressure before and after each game, perhaps they all would have had a better understanding of what temperature and relative humidity do to each ball. He would then assure fans of the NFL that there will be a rule change coming that will clear this issue up once and for all.

    Second – he would tell the world that after all is said and done, there is insufficient evidence to prove that anything happened to the footballs after Walt Anderson approved them, and there is even less evidence to prove that Brady ordered anything. He would point out that there are just too many variables that lead to far too much doubt, and he would point out those variables. The fact that there are no written records before the game, the confusion over the gauge used to test the balls, the unreliability of the gauges that were used, the Ideal Gas Law effects.

    Third – He would say that after much thought, he has decided that the punishment originally handed to Brady and the Patriots is too harsh. Since no crime can be proven, he is dropping the penalty for the Patriots completely. They get their million dollars and their draft picks back. As for Brady, the suspension is lifted, but there will still be a fine for failure to cooperate fully. That fine will be double the fine handed out to Brett Favre when he failed to cooperate with an investigation.

    With that, Goodell gets out of this mess without admitting completely that Brady is exonerated. Brady gets to play in every game this season and still can claim that he never ordered the balls to be deflated. The fans, myself included, will always believe that Brady is innocent, the haters will continue to insist that he cheated. It’s not ideal for Goodell, because he spent upwards of 5 million to prove guilt, and it’s not ideal for Brady because there will always be that question lurking, but we would put it all behind us and could focus on opening day. That’s my opinion.

  74. Pretty much anyone who has taken a high-school science class and read the Wells Report knows that the “scientific” conclusions don’t hold up. There’s no need to release emails…the report is flimsy enough on its own.

  75. Face it Patsie* fans….
    Tammy will still have her 4 game suspension, they will lose to the Colts on her first game back, and she will miss the playoffs because of it.
    Career over………………….fade to black.
    Fin.

  76. We have been so busy talking about ball DEFLATION due to the elements of Nature/Science/Ideal Gas Law that we have not discussed the OBVIOUS from the other end of the Thermometer.

    What about footballs inflated/deflated in an Air Conditioned Room, let’s say 68 degrees, and those footballs put into play in Miami, Phoenix or Houston with outdoor temperature around 90 degrees, added to that the footballs BAKING in the Sun would surely increase their temperature close to 100 degrees.

    PSI pressure of those footballs at Half Time would be well over 13.5 psi. Most likely going as high as 16.0 psi.

    Can someone do a test on that and give us the results – please.
    Thank You

  77. That would present even more CONFIRMING Evidence against the NFL and their illegitimate procedural methodology of determining guilt against a Player/Team concerning Rule 17.

  78. catquick says:
    Jun 30, 2015 12:19 AM
    None of this matters. It’s a red herring. It’s about Shady Brady NOT co-operating!!! Ideal Gas laws aside. wells reports aside. Kraft hiring his own firm to look like outsiders to trash the report aside, Brady DID NOT CO- OPERATE!!!! That IS, and always will be the problem. That won’t go away, no matter what any expert says.

    ———————————-

    Actually, Brady not cooperating is a red herring to distract from the entire shadiness of the “investigation”.

    The NFL has not even been able to offer any evidence that anything actually happened. The concluded from the beginning that the Pats and Brady had cheated and then tried to force any “evidence” into that narrative until it exploded.

    Please also note that Gostkowski did not turn over his phone and received no punishment. Why do you think that is?

  79. @stull60060

    So – are you saying that when standing next to someone who is smoking, smoke does not enter your lungs? Do you think we need a scientific study to determine that?

    And if you are suggesting second hand smoke does no damage and aligning yourself with the Wells Law Firm hired by Big Tobacco to persuade the public to believe that, does that mean you also accept the idea that Big Oil has hired them to convince the public….

    that oil spills don’t damage the ocean?

    Actually, not only does this smack of manipulating public opinion, but it also illustrates quite well, that this law firm is hired by companies who have a pre determined message they want to get out there, and they hire them to concoct a study to back them up. You do see that right?

    That’s at least half the point here.

  80. “OK fellas, we’ve reached our conclusion before the investigation has even started. That was easy enough.
    Now let’s align only the elements that’ll help make our conclusion believable.”

  81. Catquick, you say this all about Brady not cooperating with the league. Okay. That is punishable by a fine. Not what the moron commish is trying to do.
    I did read somewhere that The moron commish did not give up his phone when it came to trying to figure out if he had gotten the ray rice video. Just saying.

    The point of this is that science explains that if the balls started at 12.5 at 70 degrees and they have to go down significantly when they are 40 degrees. And if the Colts balls were 13.5 to begin with, they will also go down, but not under the standard.
    Once the Colts balls tested under (3 of 4) then there should not have been any investigation. Period.

    The people that should be investigated are the ones that called the nfl saying the pats were deflating their balls….

  82. Hope this carny act never ends. It’s making that incredible Superbowl win even sweeter.
    Thank you John Harbaugh.
    Thank you Ryan Grigson.
    Thank you Mike Kensil.
    Thank you Ted Wells.
    Thank you Roger Goodell.

    Thank you Tom Brady.

  83. @lizzzy321, I didn’t miss a thing. Weather affects everyone equally and cannot be legislated by the NFL. Cheating to provide an unfair advantage over the opponent can.

    So, really, you got lost on the straw man argument the other guy put forward.

  84. I didn’t miss a thing. Weather affects everyone equally and cannot be legislated by the NFL. Cheating to provide an unfair advantage over the opponent can.
    ==
    You missed the fact that no one cheated in the AFCCG, because the balls were all reacting exactly as they should have due to weather and conditions.

  85. Braden says: Jun 30, 2015 1:04 AM

    Brady is asked to present relevant information, and many people don’t seem to care. Yet they will jump all over this company. Now don’t me wrong, this company is super shady, but so is the dude who was terrible in Ted 2, Tom Brady.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Thats cool, was that before or after he was interviewed for 6+ hours?

  86. crush22 says:
    Jun 30, 2015 3:38 PM
    Face it Patsie* fans….
    Tammy will still have her 4 game suspension, they will lose to the Colts on her first game back, and she will miss the playoffs because of it.
    Career over………………….fade to black.
    Fin.
    ———-

    NO SOUP FOR YOU!!

  87. That’s just more excuses and rationalizations by Pats fans who don’t want to admit the truth that their team cheats.

  88. @Regis Hawk –

    The explanation for why the Colts balls were not as low as the Patriots balls when they were measured on the day of the AFC Championship Game is so simple, that anyone can understand it. That is if they actually read the account of how the NFL officials obtained the measurements.

    First of all the Colts balls started out .6psi higher than the Patriots balls to begin with. So – easy to understand they end up higher than the Patriot balls. Then, add to that, the fact that they measured the Patriots balls immediately when they were still cold and then waited about 15mins before measuring the Colts balls that had been brought inside to the locker room. Even the Wells report indicates that this is enough time for the PSI to increase from the increase in temperature.

    Those are facts. They actually happened. Either the NFL officials messed up taking the measurements of the footballs, or they intentionally attempted to make it appear the Patriots were guilty. Either way, not only is there NO evidence that the balls were intentionally deflated by anyone, but THERE IS evidence that the balls were only lower by the anticipated amount predicted by The Ideal Gas Law.

    So, If I were you, I would start preparing to be disappointed, because if Goodell doesn’t vacate the penalties, he will be in court and no court is going to ignore those facts.

  89. “Almost from the jump, the media and fans of opponents formed their negative opinions. Even fans of the Pats had some initial doubts.”

    ————————————–

    Nailed it.

    As a life long, die hard Patriots fan, I initially wondered and had doubts as well. I was extremely disappointed at the thought that this could be true. I even considered turning in my NFL fan card if this all proved to be correct. There was no bias in my mind.

    Then as I watched the whole thing unfold and spiral into the biggest story on the planet fueled by bashers and haters foaming at the mouth, I had to wonder if the Patriots were getting a fair shake.

    Then you have Richard Sherman say that if the findings are inconclusive, then that automatically means that Kraft has Goodell in his back pocket.

    So now the NFL is in a no win situation. Exonerate Brady and the NFL and all their broadcast partners (the ones that hyped this whole thing up) look like absolute fools. Conspiracy theories of a corrupt cover up will flow.

    Then we all get the answer that nobody on the planet expected. Brady may or may not be guilty, but we’ll just say he is. Let just one guy take the fall and cover up for everything else.

    Disgusting.

  90. This is from the above article about Toyota using Exponent..

    “The first thing you know is that when Exponent is brought in to help a company, that company is in big trouble,” she said.

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