Rex reportedly more enthusiastic about Taylor than Cassel

AP

The Bills brought in two new quarterbacks this offseason, trading for Matt Cassel and signing Tyrod Taylor. Most people figured Cassel was in line to start and Taylor was brought in to be a backup. But that may not be the case.

The Buffalo News reports that Bills coach Rex Ryan has shown greater enthusiasm for Taylor than for Cassel, that Ryan has wanted to coach Taylor for a long time and previously wanted the Jets to acquire him, and that Ryan says Taylor is the fastest quarterback in the NFL and can change games with his speed.

Ryan might be right that Taylor is the fastest quarterback in the NFL: Among all active quarterbacks, the only one who ran a faster 40-yard dash at the Combine than Taylor’s 4.51 was Robert Griffin III, and Griffin doesn’t look as fast now as he did before the knee injury at the end of his rookie year. Taylor is so impressive with the ball in his hands that at times when he was Joe Flacco’s backup in Baltimore, the Ravens let Taylor take snaps in the Wildcat formation, much to Flacco’s chagrin.

But Taylor has never proven himself as an NFL passer: In very limited action as a backup to Flacco, he has completed 54.3 percent of his passes, with no touchdowns and two interceptions. Both Cassel and EJ Manuel have shown more as NFL passers than Taylor has. It would be a big risk for the Bills to put such an unproven quarterback under center in Week One.

It might just be a risk Ryan is willing to take, however, on the theory that the Bills need to win games with their defense and running game, and Taylor is the quarterback on the roster whose skills are most conducive to that. Don’t be surprised if Taylor is the starter when the season starts, and Cassel is no longer on the roster at all.

108 responses to “Rex reportedly more enthusiastic about Taylor than Cassel

  1. Rex’s QB’s are like having to pick between a Cavalier, Sunfire, or a Colbalt… all will get the job done… but just nothing nice…

  2. Once again Rex completely misses how important the QB position is. He’ll swoon Bills fans and ownership for 4 years than they will figure out he’s a gasbag that only focuses on one side of the ball then they’ll fire him. Wash, rinse, repeat the Jets cycle.

  3. Wow, if they think Tyrod Taylor is their best option, they are even worse off than I thought….that “greatest defense of all time” better be holding opponents under 7 to ANY chance of getting into the playoffs.

  4. Considering Rex’s track record on choosing quarterbacks, that probably means that Cassel is the best of the bunch to this point.

  5. Of course he is! I called this months ago!

    Really gonna see why the previous regime gave up so much to draft Watkins – to block! And nothing says not a gadget guy like blocking! Percy Harvin really is gonna come into his own in this 50-60 rushes a game offense.

    In the immortal words of Bart Scott – Can’t wait!

  6. You mean he didn’t know that Cassel needs 20 seconds in the pocket to make a decision?
    If he had bothered to ask the Patriots, Chiefs or Vikings, they could have told him.

  7. Rex fits right in with the Bills…uncanny knack for mis-evaluating QBs. What is he thinking?

    None of these 3 options are an option. Problem is the GM can’t see it and the coach can’t see it. Any QB with talent has been ignored by this team over and over. Could have had Russell Wilson, but, nope, T.J. Graham was better…T.J. effin’ Graham!!! Now Bills fans are saying let’s sign Wilson. Of course! Now that he thinks he’s worth $25MM. Then, EJ Manuel is chosen as the answer! 4th round pick taken #16….genius!

    That “better than there ever was” defense better have someone who can throw the ball….they are gonna need it.

  8. Only 54%? That very Andrew Luck-like in his rookie year and now he’s NFL gold. Taylor’s low percentage can be explained by his lack of use and time/situation of games he got to play in.

    People fear the unknown and Taylor is unknown, due to lack of playing time. People will see he is capable, given ample time on the field. I expect he will take advantage of this opportunity and he will succeed.

    Given his competition, is Manuel and Cassel, Taylor gets a golden chance.

  9. “Rex has wanted to coach Taylor for a long time……..” , we all know how well that went with the Jets. Rex is a damn good DC, too bad he doesn’t just stick to that and leave the head coaching to someone else. Funny how even Bill’s fans would ridicule Rex when he was with the Jets but how quickly they too are willing to drink the kool-aid now that he is in Buffalo.

  10. It s really a shame that the Bills have that top five defense, good WRs and RBs, but are stuck with the triumvirate of Cassell, Manuel and Taylor.

  11. whyamiacowboysfanagain says:

    Rex Ryan wouldn’t know a QB if he bludgeoned him over the head…
    ============
    Wrong, he only knows the Butt” fumbles type!!! LOL …… I feel sympathy for the Bills. Another 4 years with no playoffs. As the great Jim Mora states: “Playoffs , are you kidding me, the playoffs? …”.

  12. alewatcher says:
    Jun 30, 2015 9:10 AM

    And as we’ve all seen, Rex is an expert at judging QB talent.

    ————————————————————–
    Look what he had to choose from!!

  13. People can keep speculating on this all they want. All this means is that Taylor is ahead of Cassel on the depth chart. Anyone keeping an eye on Bills OTAs knows that EJ Manuel has started to separate himself from the pack. Manuel will be the starter, Taylor the backup and Cassel will get a swift kick out the door

  14. Taylor isn’t an NFL qb. Doesn’t read the whole field or go through progressions, lacks an NFL arm – isn’t consistent or accurate. But he sure can run fast (which means next to nothing since the zone read has been figured out). It amazes me to see the level of stupidity in NFL
    Coaches and personnel men.

  15. I cannot wait to watch the Rex Ryan press conferences, the McCoy finger pointing, and the Percy Harvin meltdowns as this team makes their way towards 7-9.

    Get your popcorn ready.

  16. Good, tired of the Cassel, Orton, Holcomb types we have been stuck with forever. Go Tyrod and EJ! Go Bills!

  17. Rex lives and signs players from his past. Rex knew Taylor from his time in Baltimore. Just like when he left Baltimore he took Bart Scott, Jim Leonhard and a couple others. In Buffalo he has grabbed some of his old Jets and now he is back to grabbing former players he knew from Baltimore. Typical Rex. As a Ravens fan I know Taylor and he is like the first year for RG3, Wilson, Kaepernick, etc… and he will be good for one year just like them. By the time he takes the beating that goes along with that system by year two he will be like RG3, Tebow, and Kaepernick, and will have to survive on his arm, which he cant do. Only Wilson has made long term success of the run and shoot and that’s because they never asked him to survive on his arm, because he couldn’t. Neither will Taylor.

  18. Well we all know how good Rex Ryan is at evaluating quarterbacks….

    We should probably wait until he lets us know which quarterback he’s getting a tattoo of before we jump to conclusions though

  19. Not sure about Taylor, but as a Vikings fan, not at all surprised that Cassel is lagging behind. He was absolutely brutal last year before injuring his foot. He constantly looked panicked, lost, and what little arm he ever had is just about done. Guy made a pretty good career for himself though considering he never started a game in college.

  20. I saw a lot of Taylor in the last few years in pre-season and he has his moments but cannot take the offense on long drives and cannot throw the deep ball. If Rex wants him to start then that Bills team is going to look like a 1950’s college wishbone team.

  21. Why the Bills would hire Ryan and Roman who dragged the Jets and Niners offenses down the hole is beyond me

  22. Tyrod will win some games. He’s very mobile. He can sling in 60 yards. He has polished mechanics. Though, he makes a lot of overthrows and just bonehead passes sometimes. I’d still start Cassel because I think he gives you the best chance to win right now. He’s the game manager the Bills need.

  23. The three QB’s Rex “had input” on selecting over the last 6 years:

    Mark Sanchez, Greg McElroy and Tajh Boyd

    I would be very worried if I were a Bills fan.

  24. No matter how fast he can run he ain’t gonna cut it with that kind of completion percentage.

  25. “Game manager” is a polite way of saying you pretty much suck as a QB, we just cant find anyone better right now.

  26. Ther are many skill sets needed to play QB in todays NFL. The ability to process information in seconds is one of them. Finding the player with the right combination of skills is a major challenge in an ever thinning field of players coming out of college. So many promising young men have failed to live up to their billing that it looks in retospect that Indy was correct in the “Suck for Luck” season.

  27. Taylor didn’t even look good in all the preseason games he played with the Ravens. Whatever stats he has from the regular season were all in garbage time when all the other team wanted was for it to end. Rex should stick with defense and let someone else decide on the most important offensive player. Tyrod is a nice guy and is good to his mother, but to imagine him as anything more than a backup is delusional.

  28. The offense will resemble a CFL team, except won’t score any points. However, solid decision it will play better in Toronto when the franchise relocates.

  29. Rex should stick to the defense and leave the offense to someone who knows what he’s doing. Unfortunately, it’s not in Rex’s nature. Tyrod Taylor is not a quality NFL QB. And Rex’s assessment demonstrates that he will kill the Bills offense as sure as his name is Rex Ryan.

  30. $10 says that his favorite memory of his father’s career was watching Randall Cunningham.

  31. Starting Taylor would be not risk at all since Ryan is already at his career’s point of no return if he fails.

    Betcha he uses all of his QBs, shedding each one like a tissue when they fail to produce because once the losses mount, it will become crystal clear that the constant factor in his losses as a head coach is Ryan himself.

    Unlike when his dad was in his prime, Rex will never be known as the “Winner in town.”

  32. lifeistoughtrustmeimadolphinsfan says:
    Jun 30, 2015 9:23 AM

    God they are terrible. They might lose every single game next year.

    What a ridiculous statement. SMDH…

  33. Taylor and Ryan have never been part of the same organization until the Bills. Why do so many people make up facts in today’s world?

  34. All this pre-training camp speculation on Buffalo QBs and who might “not make the roster at all” etc. is getting to the point of utter insanity.

    Based on WHAT exactly?

    Just plain stupid.

    The most likely thing to happen WILL happen. Which is:
    1) Cassel will start based on being the most experienced and probably best game manager, least likely to hurt the defense.
    2) Manuel will back him up based on $$ invested in him.
    3) Taylor will be third string.
    4) Cassel will start out great, then have two horrible games, Manuel will start and play HORRIBLY, look completely lost and then Taylor will start the next game.

    That’s my prediction and I’m sticking with it. 😉

  35. dcapettini says:
    Jun 30, 2015 11:04 AM
    Taylor didn’t even look good in all the preseason games he played with the Ravens. Whatever stats he has from the regular season were all in garbage time when all the other team wanted was for it to end. Rex should stick with defense and let someone else decide on the most important offensive player. Tyrod is a nice guy and is good to his mother, but to imagine him as anything more than a backup is delusional.
    ______________________________________
    Another person who doesn’t know the facts

    2013 vs Tamps Bay – 13/23 – 154 yards, 2 TDs, 0 Ints, 27 yds rushing

    2011 Preseason Debut – 19/28 179 Yards

    2014 Regular Season vs the Bengals
    15/25 – 149 yards, 65 yards rushing 1 TD

  36. vbbills says:
    Jun 30, 2015 11:26 AM
    Taylor and Ryan have never been part of the same organization until the Bills. Why do so many people make up facts in today’s world?
    ======
    What are you talking about? Not one word in the article or a single comment says anything about the Taylor and Ryan having been part of the same organization at the same time.

  37. Oh yeah! Percy Harvin is going to LOVE a running QB on his team. And every other WR on the Bills. Way to go Rex, doing his best to screw up another NY team.

  38. “I think we can win the Super Bowl by 10 pts with Cassel and by 28 pts with Taylor” -Rex Ryan

  39. AFC winning QBs since 2001.

    Brady
    Flacco
    Gannon
    Manning
    Roethlisberger

    And Brady, Manning and Roethlisberger
    have made it 12 of the 14 Super Bowls.

    for 14 years the top QBs in the AFC have made the Super Bowl.

    To win the AFC the Bills defense would need to be elite like Baltimore in 2000 if they plan on Taylor at QB. Trent Dilfer was probably better than Tyrod Taylor too, so it may even be harder.

  40. Cassel may have shown more passing, but he peaked 5 years ago and has probably shown all there is to show. He’s like a Ryan Fitzpatrick- he’s a guy who teams are comfortable as a #2 who can start if needed. No ones going to be excited. Teams are always going to be more excited about a young guy with potential, even if he’s not that good, because they don’t know that yet.

  41. Take it from someone who watched Taylor the entire time he was in Baltimore. He’s good for a couple of plays, maybe a quarter or two, then he’ll do something stupid and kill a drive or a game. He doesn’t have a strong arm. He doesn’t read D’s well. All he does is run around and make some plays here and there. You can’t build an entire offense around Tyrod Taylor.

  42. Take it from someone who watched Taylor the entire time he was in Baltimore. He’s good for a couple of plays, maybe a quarter or two, then he’ll do something stupid and kill a drive or a game. He doesn’t have a strong arm. He doesn’t read D’s well. All he does is run around and make some plays here and there. You can’t build an entire offense around Tyrod Taylor.

    you may be accurate but im not taking anything from a fan who saw a guy play as little as Taylor

  43. The Rex comments are great. Keep em coming. June means nothing. And that works both ways.

    And as I’ve been saying. It’s going to be EJ. Cassell is toast.

  44. It’s not like the Bills’ FO actually thinks any of these three guys are legitimate franchise QBs. People in these parts act like playoff QBs grow on trees.

    When the Bills were looking for a QB with a 1st round draft pick, their options were EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, and Mike Glennon (ugh). Had they kept their 2015 1st instead of trading it for Sammy Watkins, the best QB available when they picked (at 19) was Garrett Grayson, who went number 75 to the Saints.

    The Bills know they don’t have a QB. It’s not like they can come out and say that publicly, though. Sheesh.

  45. What if they used that 1st round pick they wasted on Manuel, and the 1st round pick they wasted on Watkins, in a deal to bring in a decent QB?

    Two 1st rounders gets you a decent QB.

  46. At least Tyrod has some upside. He’s never had a real shot, who knows…?

    You know what you’re getting with Cassel (and Manueal, too): Mediocrity

  47. Like father like son. The Ryan’s have tunnel vision when it comes to football. They have no plan when it comes to the offensive side of the ball. Buddy never emphasized Randall Cunningham learning how to be a QB so he never became one in Philly. He just told Randall to run and let the defense handle the rest. Rex seems to be doing the same thing now. The problem is that will not work in today’s game.

  48. voiceofreason01 says:
    Jun 30, 2015 1:27 PM

    Matt cassel is proof that any mediocre QB can look HOF while playing for Cheatville (New Eng).

    ————-

    Cassell won 5 less games with NE than Brady did the year prior. And he didn’t make the playoffs.
    He looked ok, but far from Brady.

    Also, that might have been the best ever to not win a Super Bowl the year prior and everyone returned with the exception of Brady getting hurt in game 1. Any QB would have looked good on that team.

  49. gjv001 says:
    Jun 30, 2015 11:04 AM

    Taylor has the skill to be the next Russell Wilson.

    ——————

    Wilson beat out Matt Flynn as a rookie from a suspected starting role after a few great performances in GB.

    Then Wilson started all 16 games throwing 64.1%, 24 TDs and 10 INTs for a 100.0 QB rating.

    He made the playoffs and really came close to getting to the NFC championship after completely blowing out some teams.

    Then he followed that up with a Super Bowl winning season and then a Super Bowl appearance.

    In the first 4 years Taylor did nothing then was not resigned by his team.

    Wilson may be one of the greatest QBs of all time one day based on his start. Taylor might not have a job in October. There’s no comparison in their skill.

  50. I doubt Cassel will be the day 1 starter, so that leaves Manuel and Taylor. Manuel at this point is the better QB of the two… If Manuel starts and looks awful, Taylor will be there to step in and vice-versa.
    The reasons the team believes that they can get by with these two guys:
    1) The Defense looks to be very good.
    2) LeSean McCoy and Fred Jackson are a big one two punch with Felton leading the way behind a redone Offensive line.
    3) Game Management- The QB just needs to control the tempo of the game with capitalizing on turnovers, limit mistakes, hand the ball off with some light passing to keep the D honest and put Dan Carpenter into position to hammer away 6-9pts a game. Whoever wins the job will not be asked to do much at all.
    4) The Coordinator will cater to the QB’s strengths and limit their weakness’. Both Quarterback’s can kill you with their legs and hammer away at a D looking to stop the run with plenty of deep shots… Both have good touch on deep passes.(Remember, Watkins, Harvin and especially Goodwin can pretty much outrun most DB’s in the league)

    Rex has a plan.

  51. Reading between the lines the Bills are a QB away from dominating football for years to come. Can this be true. Are they really that good. And didnt Cassell nearly get the Asterix brothers to the playoffs one year with a 11 & 5 record. If the Bills are really that brillant everywere else Cassell should be good enough.

  52. It’s a 3-way competition all the way through preseason despite what the pundits have to say. Based on actual observation through OTAs and mini-camp, it’s #1 EJ Manuel and a toss up between Taylor and Cassel for #2. Cassel has been disappointing but it’s early and having his experience around can only help the other two. Camp are is Matt Simms unless Cassel again disappoints and he becomes a cap number casualty.

    It was only a year ago that Cassel got the starting nod over Teddy Bridgewater and maybe getting over his foot injury has something to do with his performance so far.

  53. joetoronto says:
    Jun 30, 2015 1:36 PM
    What if they used that 1st round pick they wasted on Manuel, and the 1st round pick they wasted on Watkins, in a deal to bring in a decent QB?

    Two 1st rounders gets you a decent QB.
    …………………..
    Complete apples and oranges comparison there. Ignoring the fact they were in separate years. Ignoring the fact they acquired Manuel after trading down- and wouldn’t have Robert Woods had they not done so (and, arguable vis a vis the Alonso pick turned trade- wouldn’t have McCoy, either). Ignoring the fact Watkins was selected by a different GM than the one who selected Nix.

    But, you already knew all of that, didn’t you.

  54. Are you kidding…. Rex did not say at any point he is leading the pack in fact he said the true test will be with pads on. There is a reason he has never started a game in the NFL. Throwing passes in practice is not the same as game situations. If you read the article in the Buffalo News, all the quotes are from Taylor……..not one from Rex or any of the other QB’s.

  55. The last thing I want to hear about a QB is that he’s a fast runner. I’d rather hear that he can throw accurately, make quick decisions, and read defenses.

  56. Imagine watching the Rex Fiasco within the same division for years… And then importing that mess into your own organization.

    Un-Be-Lievable.

  57. It’s kind of unbelievable, that a team has three quarterbacks and none of them can THROW well enough to just manage a game. Most NFL coaches would be in denial of that fact and in their arrogance believe they can get one of them to perform at a high-level. At least Rex recognizes this fact. So who knows, the Broncos made a hell of a run with a quarterback who could barely throw, a defense not nearly as impressive as the Bills, and a strong running game. So screw it! Run the read option with the fastest QB in the game!!

  58. Tyrod Taylor——80th ranked fantasy qb in 2014. Ladies and gentlemen your 2015 Bills starting quarterback!! Okay, okay. 2013#53, 2012#42 and 2011#67. So I suppose he has upside.

  59. “you may be accurate but im not taking anything from a fan who saw a guy play as little as Taylor”

    This is just like getting re-married – the triumph of hope over experience.

  60. BeliChamp got the most out of Cassell. Just like he gets the most out of everyone he coaches. Some people don’t realize what that looks like because they’ve never seen it up close, so they label it ‘cheating’ because they’re lazy and unintelligent.

    On the other hand, Rex’s coaching will help him run into someone’s backside eventually.

  61. I cannot think of another NFL coach who is less qualified to make this decision.

    Or a coaching staff who would be less capable of developing the one they do choose.

  62. Rex favors Tyrod (what kind of name is that, anyway???) over Cassel because he has prettier feet.

    Rex Ryan thinks a quarterback is the change you get from a dollar when you pay 75 cents for something. Seriously, Ryan knows nothing about quarterbacks.

    And is he going to get a tattoo of a tie rod on his butt now?

  63. “As a Ravens fan I know Taylor and he is like the first year for RG3, Wilson, Kaepernick, etc… and he will be good for one year just like them.”

    Did you just imply that Wilson was good for only one year?

  64. Obviously Cassel suffers PTSD from that beating at the hands of the Steelers in ’08, and it’s affected his performance to this day. Of course he can thank his pal Tom Brady for allowing him to take said beatdown in Brady’s place.

    I feel sorry for Buffalo fans as obviously Rex Ryan continues to be oblivious about the QB position.
    Gee, why don’t you just go out and recruit one of the US Olympic team sprinters then? Because as we all know, sprinter’s speed is what makes for a franchise QB. Well done Rex and keep up the good work.

  65. It’s going to be so funny when all the trash talkers end up adding Taylor from waivers to save their floundering fantasy teams….

  66. I love all the jealousy. So many posts on each Bills article. EJ will start, it’s his 3 rd season. Anyone who watched his first season befor Marrone put limitations on him and prior to his injury saw that the kid had potential. He works hard and has enough skill to make some plays.. Just enough plays to keep us in games and let the D and the running game control the pace. All you haters are gonna be real quiet come November when the D is dominant and the offense is playing well enough to be in contention for a playoff spot.
    Marrone played not to lose not to mention he had Hackett who was a bad O coordinator at best. With all the talent the Bills added and a good offensive coordinator they will contend and be in position to win 10-11 games. Hate on Ryan all you want he never had an offensive coordinator or an offense with this much talent to match up with his aggressive D.
    Let’s not forget he brought 2 teams with Mark Sanchez at QB to back to back AFC title games…can’t wait!!! For Novemebr there’s gonna be a lot of happy Billivers and a lot of silent haters.

  67. Rex lives and signs players from his past. [b]Rex knew Taylor from his time in Baltimore.[/b] Just like when he left Baltimore he took Bart Scott, Jim Leonhard and a couple others. As a Ravens fan I know Taylor and he is like the first year for
    RG3, Wilson, Kaepernick, etc… and he will be good for one year just like them.

    ==================================

    You can’t be too much of a Ravens fan. Ryan left Baltimore in 09, Taylor was drafted by the Ravens in 2011. So Ryan never knew Taylor from his time coaching in Baltimore.

  68. I will never understand what prompts someone to be the 54th guy in a comments chain that needs to point out “QB is the most important position” and that “the Bills defense better hold the other team to blah blah blah”

    WE GET IT PEOPLE.

    By the way what is REX supposed to do here? He is going with the QBs he was dealt. ALSO he is not the GM of the team so it isn’t as if he is the one who assembled these QBs.

    The hope here is that there is an actual competition between all 3 QBs. They push each other hard and in the end one of them comes out as a competent option.

    Manuel was horrendous last year but certainly showed some good signs his rookie season.

    Cassell is what he is but is a veteran who has had a couple really good seasons with surrounding casts similar to what we have here.

    Taylor is a complete wild card. He is explosive but hasn’t shown any kind of legit passing ability.

    As said above we need just one of these guys to be decent and the Bills are a playoff team no doubt.

    Enough with these tired takes from clueless fans just regurgitating something they heard the other drunk guy across the dive bar they frequent say. YUCK!!!

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