Goodell: Ruling on Tom Brady’s #DeflateGate appeal coming soon

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Tom Brady’s apparently not going to have to wait nearly as long as Greg Hardy to learn his fate from the league.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told Julia Boorstin of CNBC that a ruling on Brady’s #DeflateGate appeal could come very soon and could be as soon as next week.

Brady’s appeal was heard on June 23, which included more than 10 hours of stuff they originally planned to cram in a four-hour bag.

Hardy’s hearing before Harold Henderson was May 28, and there’s been no indication anything’s imminent on that front either.

So either Goodell heard everything he needed to hear — or didn’t — and doesn’t need nearly as much time to render a decision.

216 responses to “Goodell: Ruling on Tom Brady’s #DeflateGate appeal coming soon

  1. Goodell knew what he was going to do here before Brady’s appeal ever happened

  2. The fix is in the cheater gets off with just missing one game. Kraft folded like greased accordion so Tammy wouldn’t have to miss four games and the supply of diapers won’t be exhausted in New England. Let the crying begin…….

  3. How much time does it take to look at the FACTS and see nothing happened, but when has Ex-Jet and complete and utter moron Goodell ever looked at the facts….See you in court!

  4. Tom Terrific and the Pat’s deposited their bribe in a timely fashion……….Greg Hardy and da’ boys didn’t get the memo.

  5. So now we get to find out if “The Deflater” will get punished,or if Kraft worked a deal to get him out of it – Either way wouldn’t surprise me given the Pat’s history.

  6. This is your moment, Roger! If you cut even one game off the suspension, the integrity of the game will be damaged beyond repair. On-the-field cheating by a star player HAS to be taken seriously. Four games was a slap on the wrist… anything less is absolutely unacceptable to anyone outside of the delusional New England fan base.

  7. It’s been so long I’m sure the Patriots have already found other ways to cheat.

  8. We will now find out if Brady gets punished for what he did or if Kraft worked a deal.Given the Pat’s history,it will probably get covered up once again.

  9. He said the same thing a few months before the Wells report came out.

    As a Pats fan, I hope Brady takes them to court. I don’t even care if they find something a little incriminating on Brady just as long as Goodell, his flunkies and ESPN get investigated thoroughly as well.

  10. Hopefully he will get suspended for the full year. For that is the only way Shannon Sharpe will feel justice has been executed.

  11. How does Goodell get out of this with the best PR for him and the league in general?

    The information that answers this question is the only relevant information upon which the decision will be based.

  12. Oh, that’s convenient. Right before training camps begin after this story (which should be a non-story) has gripped football fans all offseason.

    At this point I wonder if Kraft is in on the whole thing to grow WWE-style interest in the game.

  13. Seems like a strange venue for Goodell to be making such a statement. Even stranger to be there with Kraft.
    Hopefully he is getting his financial ducks in a row as he prepares to be fired by the NFL owners.

  14. Ya they want to make it seem they deliberated a long time on this when there was no decision to really make, his four games will stand and they know it.

  15. Here’s how it will read “In light of Mr. Brady’s testimony, and his continued public support of the NFL expanding the league to Europe, his personal suspension will be removed, and all punishment handed down to the Patriot’s organization will be rescinded.”

  16. The only real question about deflategate now is if the wrong conclusions in the Wells report were innocent or intended.

  17. When are Luck and the Indianapolis team having their hearing for using under inflated balls also?

  18. I understand the wheels of justice turn slowly, but this is ridiculous. The appeal was June 25th. You’d have to tell me why this wasn’t adjudicated a day or a week later. Perhaps at this point, Goddell simply believes that the more time he takes, the more well thought out his decision will be. Which is NOT the case.

    Goddell reminds me of any “son of the boss” I’ve known. His dad was a US Senator and now he believes he is emperor. And he is.

  19. No win situation for Goodell. If he upholds punishment, Brady will crucify him in court. If he exonerates Brady, there will be a huge public outcry of a fix.

    Goodell has to go.

  20. Greg Hardy still waits and Goodell will make his ruling quickly on Brady.

    If Brady even gets one game I think he takes this all the way through the court system…Meanwhile Greg Hardy waits…But I like how he said he’ll fight anything more than two games…We shall see…

  21. Goodell will likely uphold the 4 game suspension to prove he’s a tough guy again after the Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice debacle.

    This whole #Deflategate persecution was all a ruse by Goodell to restore his name as an enforcer.

  22. Next stop Federal court and a TRO against the NFL,,allwoing Brady to play until an “NEUTRAL ARBITOR” is appointed,,,absolving Brady,,and once again smacking the DOOFUS in the face,,

    Regardless of the incident you VIOLATED the CBA, which specifically prohibits your from delegating and fines, fees, or punishments….and you did just that.

  23. There are a couple reason’s this ruling will most likely come before Hardy’s.

    1. With the Brady ruling Goodell has more to lose. Brady is more popular and there is far less to try and sentence him on.

    2. With the Hardy ruling, Goodell has nothing really to lose. He didn’t hear that appeal, and the vast majority of the public don’t care about a woman beater getting punished whether he was found guilty at his 2nd trial or not.

    I actually expect to see the Brady hearing and then later that day or within a couple days of that hearing you will hear the Hardy result.

    I believe he is going to try and have one reduce the blowback on the other.

  24. For a guy always harping on keeping the “integrity of the game intact”, any reduction of Brady’s suspension will show everyone that the NFL and Goodell have no integrity left.

  25. Does anyone actually expect Goodell’s ego to back down, even in the face of overwhelming evidence?

  26. Deflategate, Tebow in the nfl, Farve saying he can play… I’m nearly positive these are signs of the apocolypse.

  27. The charade continues. How about a fresh plot twist, Goodell. This whole “I trust Ted Wells” story line isn’t exactly selling.

  28. I can’t be the only one here thinking that the decision on the Brady appeal should be much quicker than Hardy’s. Not much doubt the jury was in on it before it ever went out.

  29. Goodell upholds the suspension and Brady ultimately loses the case in court, but the delay for litigation allows Brady to play in the Season Opener, so everybody’s happy.

  30. I don’t think that it is possible for Goodell and the Clowns of the Shield to have screwed this up any worse. Seriously, if back in January you had written in a comment that it’d be July and this mess would be 100x worse, they’d have deleted your post.

    No matter what happens with the decision, lots of folks will be mad on one side or the other.

    The worst case scenario for Goodell is this going to Federal Court with real discovery rules for BOTH Brady et al and the Clowns of the Shield.

    At that point the owners will fire the chump, Dudley Do-Right (Wells) and the Simp (Vincent). Then again, that’s the best case scenario for the fans!

  31. It will be zero games. Otherwise this goes to a real court instead of Goodell’s kangaroo court and the NFL/Goody get exposed for the liars and frauds that they are.

  32. One way to handle this. Keep the suspension as is, if Tom wants to go to court then good. We get to see whats on Tom’s phone that he is so desperately hiding and the patriots cant hide the ball boy any further and we get a testimony out of them. If Roger balks and lowers this then its Spygate all over again- evidence gets burned and no one knows the real truth. If players or teams dont cooperate then give them the harshest punishment possible, either they take it or go to court and have no choice but to cooperate. its the only way to get to the bottom of it all. But at no point should the NFL accept “im innocent, i wont cooperate, im going to hide the biggest piece of evidence and you should just trust me when i say im innocent”.

  33. 4 games would be appropriate if Brady was actually sitting on the sideline with an air needle on camera deflating the balls himself.

    Given the fact that there is only very circumstantial evidence against Brady even being involved, the reduction of air was so minimal and the fact that the science is so unclear it the suspension should be reduced.

    However, the only way Goodell would reduce the suspension is if Brady agreed to the reduction already. He wouldn’t want to offer up a reduction and have Brady go to court anyway. I don’t think there’s any way Goodell would eliminate the suspension.

    My guess is it’s either 4 games and Brady goes to court or it’s 1 or 2 games and Brady accepts the punishment.

  34. No reasonable person could look at the objective facts and say Brady cheated definitely. It is at very most debatable. I would argue highly, highly improbable. THE BALLS WERE NOT DEFLATED!

  35. I think Goodell was hoping for a busy news cycle like an Iranian missile attack or a Russian invasion somewhere in the world to bury the release.

  36. Everybody keep talking about the integrity of the game if the NFL had any integrity or if a deflated football was such a big deal they would not have let the Pats play in the first have with those footballs since they was informed that the PATS might be using under inflated balls also the balls went missing

  37. #1 In the coming weeks Troy Vincient (aka Fall guy) takes a “different” job within the NFL.
    #2 Goodell can’t reduce the punishment as it will make his personnel look incompetent.
    #3 Brady takes them to a real justice system where he gets exhonerated and starts the process on his retirement fund where he sues for defamation.
    #4 The league tests the footballs throughout the year to see if this science thingy called physics actually exists…and when the results come in the NFL is shocked that temperature actually does affect pressure, Troy Vincent goes back to night classes
    #5 Due to science, Patriots get their draft picks back
    #6 Fans still want Goodell fired…Rinse and REPEAT for 2016

  38. Of course it’s going to be a quick decision. Kangaroo courts know the outcome in advance. This is all for show. Goodell will uphold the suspension, and Tom will take him to court. If he gets a reasonable judge, Goodell will look like a fool.

  39. Goodell has been favoring the Patriots for years. I don’t understand the outcry from their fans that he’s out to get them. Kraft is his good buddy and Brady has been the most overly protected player in the league.

  40. Brady’s suspension will be completely overturned with an apology for all this nonsense.

    This will of course be very DEFLATING for all the haters out there.

  41. Can’t wait for this to come out.

    I can’t wait to hear more explanation about how the “deflator” really just means some dude dropped a few pounds…

    LOL

    Funny stuff right there.

  42. Why does the league punish teams for breaking rules, then breaks rules themselves by slandering certain teams and imposing unnecessary penalties without any repercussions?

  43. He’s just waiting for some other terrible NFL news before he dumps this out with the trash.

    No players have some extra fireworks left lying around?

  44. Tom will serve his four games. He will drop this. He will never talk about it again until after retires. There is too much against him.

  45. Tom will serve his four games. He will drop this. He will never talk about it again until after retires. There is too much against him.

  46. Tom will serve his four games. He will drop this. He will never talk about it again until after retires. There is too much against him.

  47. Tom will serve his four games. He will drop this. He will never talk about it again until after retires. There is too much against him.

  48. Tom will serve his four games. He will drop this. He will never talk about it again until after retires. There is too much against him.

  49. The best compromises are generally the ones that leave neither side happy. That’s why I am guessing that the suspension will be reduced to two games. Team punishments will NOT be rescinded as Kraft has already accepted those without fight, most likely in a quid pro quo effort to ensure that Brady is back on the field week 3.

  50. Goodell doesn’t need to study the facts. They are overwhelmingly in Brady’s favor.

    Goodell is going to make a political and legal decision .

    He will decide whether the risk of continuing to railroad Brady is worth taking (for whatever reason he chose that route) or whether it is time to mitigate that risk by exonerating Brady in return for Brady’s release of the the NFL and its employees from any damages.

  51. The Super Bowl was in Feb. It is going to be the middle of July before the cheater gets his sentence? Then the cheater will appeal. Then the cheater will get to play. Cheaters win is the new cliché’.

  52. Why does Goodell act like he didn’t already make a sweetheart deal with Kraft when Kraft decided no to sue? Reduced suspension — everyone knows it’s coming.

  53. drops the punishment to a fine and Brady plays week one BUT the Pats need to come out at every home game to “catch me riding dirty”

  54. Tee hee. 🙂 Look at the 31 wussy teams and their wussy fans who actually believe they are on OUR level.

    Comedy gold!

    🙂

  55. As a Patriots fan I hope Goodell upholds every bit of the suspension and Tom Brady takes this to court, which will surely embarrass the league and Homer fans of rival teams.

  56. Will Pats fans feel the same way if it comes out that he DID know or that he DID have them take air out. Don’t get me wrong. Brady has proven that he one of the best.But if he did cheat then what? If he did do it then 4 games is not enough. I am glad that a decision is coming soon. get this over with, unless Tom takes it to court and drags it out even more. And if it is upheld then what?

  57. For all the Patriot fans the reason for Brady not going to take it to court is for the same reason Kraft would not of……….more cheating is taking place than anyone knows and an investigation would uncover it.

  58. Old Roger sure does look really giddy in that picture. You can definitely tell he hates Brady and probably has it out for the patriots.

  59. .
    Omitted from the post was the fact that Goodell is attending the yearly conference for billionaires only. That’s correct folks. Only in America can a lying, conniving, little weasel of a PR man get himself into the billionaires club.

    However, even a billion dollars cannot shield Goodell from his incompetence and inferiority complex. What other true leader is so timid that he must surround himself with yes men and idol worshipers? Real leaders want divergent opinions. Real leaders want pushback. Insecure cowards need to be propped up by underlings.
    .

  60. My modest prediction-

    1. The penalty cannot be increased. The Commissioner cannot punish a player for appealing. So for anyone saying “One year,” please, stop.

    2. Personally, I find it hard to believe that Goodell will reduce the penalty to 0 games. The NFL paid too much money for the report, made too many leaks to the media, and has too much credibility at stake.

    3. However, the NFL might want to make sure that the appeal is seen as separate from the original punishment, and might want to throw Brady a bone to change the calculus for Brady’s legal action. So I believe a reduction to two games is likely.

    My bet- 2 games. And no, I don’t think Goodell cares at all about the merits of the case.

  61. If Goodell is smart he will vacate any penalties on Brady and the Patriots. But since we all know he is not smart, he will uphold the suspension, then he will not only lose the appeal and Brady will pay, he will also be writing a nice big fat check, and so will Wells in a nice civil defamation lawsuit.

    Heres what im thinking is going on, this scumbag will vacate suspension on Brady as long as Brady doesnt sue him, the NFL, and Wells. To which i would say screw u Goodell. See you in court. Ill get suspension lifted and be much richer than I already am.

  62. Tom Brady is the Greatest QB in NFL history. He will be completely cleared of all charges and not suspended for any games. People will be shocked but Goodell will explain that having heard arguments from both sides, that there is insufficient evidence.

  63. Everyone likes to bring up Brady getting an injunction while he takes the NFL to court (which he wont do because that would involve actually going under oath with real consequences) but what pats* homers dont understand is Brady can immediately be put on the commissioners exempt list until the court case is over. And if you thing this thing has gone on for a while now wait till it goes to court

  64. This comes down to one simple question. “Does the NFL believe that that Pats cheated. It’s that simple. If they really believe that cheating happened the suspension will be upheld and each side will lawyer up

  65. The offseason is the longest of any major pro sport. It is painstakingly long. As a consequence, we get way too wrapped up in this offseason effluvia. If it is not one thing, it’s another.

    At this point, I don’t really care what Goodell does, or Brady for that matter. I don’t believe the integrity of the game is on the line. I am not a Pats fan, either. Let the guy play, don’t let him play. I don’t care.

    But training camp can’t start soon enough.

  66. As the NFLPA appeal letter stated “The Report – based on speculative possibilities piled on top of speculative possibilities and a disregard of contrary evidence-is a legally inadequate basis upon which to impose this unprecedented discipline.”

    Goodell’s easiest way out of all this — blame Ted Wells. He doesn’t actually work for the league and there’s plenty of other lawyers in the sea. If anyone takes the fall for this, it will be him, not league officials.

  67. another situation that Goodell handled with the precision and perfection of a surgeons scalpel.

  68. Is Goodell generally aware he is the Commissioner???
    How can a 15 yr. Vet, no previous suspensions miss 4 games for maybe he did something? NFL didn’t prove anything! Wells is an genious who made 5 mil. for “generally aware of something.”

    Brady should get fined 50K and that’s it! That’s all the League has on him. The rest are jealous haters…

  69. It’s very disturbing how often people rush to judgment without the facts. Patriot bashing from fans is understandable. After all, the word fan is derived from fanatic. However, there are facts that show the Wells report to be deliberately absent of information that would have altered their conclusion. I think they should be punished according to precedent if it’s proven. However, if they can’t prove Brady had knowledge, then he has been defamed and damaged. Objectively speaking, I just can’t see how you dock a first round pick, $1 mil and a 4 game suspension for what the rule book calls a 25k fine and without a doubt had no effect on the outcome of the game. The NFL is a sham and seems more like an organization run by Don King!

  70. thepatsrcheaters says:

    Jul 9, 2015 11:56 AM

    Everyone likes to bring up Brady getting an injunction while he takes the NFL to court (which he wont do because that would involve actually going under oath with real consequences) but what pats* homers dont understand is Brady can immediately be put on the commissioners exempt list until the court case is over. And if you thing this thing has gone on for a while now wait till it goes to court
    ———————-

    BRADY TESTIFIED UNDER OATH AT THE APPEAL

    He has nothing to hide.

    What else ya got!?! NEXT!!!

  71. 6ball says:
    Jul 9, 2015 11:49 AM

    Ummm Roger is a billionaire in part to his $44 million/yr salary, which KRAFT decided on. Yes, Kraft thought Roger is so good at his job that he has backed every single punishment Roger has handed down and is one of three owners to approve Rogers salary. Now all the sudden when the punishment comes to New England he is incompetent? All patriots fans are hypocrits. They were caught, now if your owner things roger is fair then dont prosecute him for giving u a punishment. Also part of the CBA that Brady approved was to let the Commish hear his own appeals- so dont complain now that he oversaw brady’s appeal when brady himself gave Roger the power to do so!!!! Complete hypocrites.

  72. thepatsrcheaters says:
    Jul 9, 2015 11:56 AM
    Everyone likes to bring up Brady getting an injunction while he takes the NFL to court (which he wont do because that would involve actually going under oath with real consequences) but what pats* homers dont understand is Brady can immediately be put on the commissioners exempt list until the court case is over. And if you thing this thing has gone on for a while now wait till it goes to court

    You’re dreaming if you think this will happen..get clue..did you go to school?

  73. jchipwood says:
    Jul 9, 2015 11:46 AM
    For all the Patriot fans the reason for Brady not going to take it to court is for the same reason Kraft would not of……….more cheating is taking place than anyone knows and an investigation would uncover it.

    ——-

    An investigation already occurred and it didn’t uncover it.

  74. jetfanfolife says:
    Jul 9, 2015 12:37 PM
    Sorry I’m late on commenting Tom Brady let the air out of my tires

    NEW ENGLAND DEFLATRIOTS!!!!

    How does it feel to be a fan of a team that sucks every year?
    Feel good?

  75. So when does the investigation start over the dozen teams caught violating the coach-QB headset rules last season? I’m pretty sure screaming at your QB to hit an open receiver, or dump it off to avoid a blindside sack harms the integrity of the game. Oh right, none of those teams was the Patriots.

  76. igotgamenj says:
    Jul 9, 2015 12:43 PM
    Can’t wait till Brady’s 38 year old body gets beat up this year the by the whole AFC EAST !


    Yeah that’s what crybaby nation said last year too.
    Guess what, didn’t happen and it won’t happen this year

  77. So when does the investigation start over the dozen teams caught violating the coach-QB headset rules last season? I’m pretty sure screaming at your QB to hit an open receiver, or dump it off to avoid a blindside sack harms the integrity of the game. Oh right, none of those teams was the Patriots.

    Uh…the Pats invented that trick…google Doug Flutie and headset some time.

  78. Funny how Patriot Hater is completely clueless about what the commissioners exemption list is.

    Or about anything at all for that matter.

    🙂

  79. in my opinion, there’s only one way Goodell get out of this saving any face: He had Wells get Columbia University (which supposedly was to originally do the testing study) to review Exponent’s Report and offer an opinion.

    If it’s deemed valid, Goodell can keep the current punishment or even reduce it a bit if Brady cooperated during the appeal by providing additional information, and might limit Brady’s desire to go to court. If it’s deemed invalid, Goodell can eliminate Brady’s punishment, with the exception of a token amount for the phone thing. And they all point fingers at Exponent.

  80. He will get a pass simply because he is Tom Brady and plays for the Patriots!

  81. Even though 4 games is an absolute joke of a punishment if he’s guilty, I fully expect Goodell to lower this by a game or 2 regardless.

  82. sbchampsagain says: Can’t wait for this to come out.

    I can’t wait to hear more explanation about how the “deflator” really just means some dude dropped a few pounds… LOL Funny stuff right there.
    ===================================

    If you wanted to give us all proof you haven’t read any of the articles, let alone the Wells Report and the Wells Report and Context, this would be it

    The “deflator” was his job, in addition to his efforts to lose weight. This is not the smoking gun you seem to think it is. Every team employs one or more “deflator” – the Giants in fact employ two brothers. The NY Times documented their responsibilities including keeping the footballs with them at ALL TIMES on gameday (including the bathroom)

    On the matter at hand, I almost hope Goodell stands by this report. That will prompt Brady to seek an injunction, allowing him to play the full season, and Goodell’s NFL front office will be shown to be as corrupt as it is

    GoodellGate has already commenced

  83. Limakey,
    Time to wake up friend. Brady is not going to be suspended for any games. Goodell is the one who is guilty of wrong doing and will pay the price.
    One of my disappointments is that you continue to take the position that Goodell was just doing his job. Come on man. No one has a job where its OK to defame someone on a hunch and then to misuse his authority rather than admit his previous error in judgement. Just admit that Goodell is a narcissist and took this opportunity only because he thought it would make him look good.
    And limakey, you don’t have to feel bad for Goodell. He has been paid way beyond his capability for several years now so he won’t be hurting financially. He will be able to afford the treatment he needs, for many years.

  84. @letsgobuffalo

    It’s nice of you to attribute all Bob Kraft’s thoughts and deeds to me, but I am my own person. I have my own opinions, independent of Bob Kraft or any of the other 7 billion people who reside on this planet.

    Tom Brady has a 24-2 career record versus Buffalo. Patriots fans consider the Bills to be the gift that keeps on giving. Each year the Patriots get home field advantage in the playoffs, it’s partially due to the ineptitude of the Buffalo Surrender Monkeys.
    .

  85. The League punished the Patriots on principle. The League suspended Brady on principle. There is no evidence in the Well’s report proving the Patriots cheated.

    Wells concluded guilty because he was told to.

    Now with that said… Goodell has to uphold the suspension … if he doesn’t he brings his whole house crashing down. He ain’t doing that!!!

    It’s is going to court.

  86. ITT: If you praise the Patriots, you will be upvoted, if you critique them you will be downvoted.

    Conclusion: Pats fans do not work and sit on sports websites all day.

    I would to if I lived in the New England area, all their other teams suck.

  87. The facts are obvious. The balls were at the correct air pressure based on the game conditions.

    The best way the NFL can protect the integrity of the game is to do the following.
    1. Apologize to the Patriots and explain that the NFL was just trying to do its job, but it got it wrong.
    2. Remove all suspensions and fines and return the draft picks.
    3. Enjoy another season of the Patriots winning the right way, through hard work, skill and teamwork.

  88. Maybe its not just Patriots fans up voting. Anyone ever think that there are smart or intelligent people that can read voting as well? Really that’s all it takes to see the truth here.

  89. >Reality is never was deflation below the legal limit ever proven

    lol – so they fired 2 equipment guys for no reason?

    -sincerely,
    The Deflator™

  90. letsgobuffalo4 says:

    All patriots fans are hypocrits
    ======
    Remember when the Giants beat the Bills in the first of their 4 super bowl losses. Wasn’t that a great defensive game plan? Didn’t that come from BB? Isn’t it in the HoF?

    Since that day and the 3 SB losses that followed, hasn’t BB basically relegated the Bills to insignificance? No wonder you are so upset.

  91. Trollaikman

    1. They were stealing team equipment, the team suspending them wouldn’t be all that extraordinary if the following wasn’t true.

    2. They were suspended at the behest of Troy Vincent. This is evident as they cannot be reinstated without the NFL league offices approval.

    This is really your smoking gun to prove deflation? I can point to facts and numbers that prove no deflation.

    This isn’t even a discussion anymore, its a sad and pathetic bloodbath. Too many facts are out there exonerating the Pats.

  92. Even though the punishments/suspensions were vacated by Tagliabue, Kraft vehemently supported Goodell after manufacturing Bountygate. But now, all of a sudden because it involves the Patriots, Kraft backtracks and insists Goodell is not being fair in his disciplinary process…. Hypocrisy at its finest!

  93. A lot of people are calling for Brady’s head. Really? What did he do?

    There is no proof of any wrong doing.

    Oh, he didn’t turn his private phone over? How many of you would turn yours over to your boss, especially considering what types of pics and texts you might have on there of your loved ones?

    They didn’t need to see Brady’s phone. They got all of the information they needed from the interviews and the other records. They still found nothing.

    Why Kraft backed down is beyond me.

  94. Wussies need to know their place. At the feet of US superior fans of the World Champion Patriots.

    #BowToYourMasters
    #BowToTheChamps
    #BowToTheGreatestTeamInSports
    #BowTotheNFLsGreatestDynasty
    #AdmitYourTeamisTrashComparedToUS
    #AdmitYourTeamWillNeverBeOnOURLevel
    #KissTheRing
    #ThenKissAll4OfThem

  95. trollaikman8 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:04 PM
    >Reality is never was deflation below the legal limit ever proven

    lol – so they fired 2 equipment guys for no reason?

    -sincerely,
    The Deflator™
    ======================

    They were suspended (not fired) at the behest of the NFL, not the Patriots. The article was posted on this very website (May 19, 2015, 7:10 AM EDT).

  96. sb44champs says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:19 PM
    Even though the punishments/suspensions were vacated by Tagliabue, Kraft vehemently supported Goodell after manufacturing Bountygate. But now, all of a sudden because it involves the Patriots, Kraft backtracks and insists Goodell is not being fair in his disciplinary process…

    I think most Pats fans will agree with you that Kraft has been acting like an @$$ for years when it comes to his support of Goodell. I know this Pats fan agrees with you.

    For some reason NFL owners, obviously including Kraft, seem to think Goodell is damn near indispensable to them if they want to continue making ridiculous millions as NFL owners. I don’t get it, but I am not an owner.

    Many (all?) Pats fans are not happy with Kraft, but another Super Bowl run would probably ease our angst.

  97. trollaikman8 says: lol – so they fired 2 equipment guys for no reason?
    =============================

    ROFL – Again, if anyone wanted proof that trolls don’t even read the articles here, let alone the Wells Report or the Wells Report in context you’d know that they were suspended on the demands of the League

    Troy Vincent even re-affirmed the suspensions stating that HE and the NFL were the only ones who could re-instate them

    This all took place before scientist after scientist debunked the Wells Report which they assert actually provided evidence that deflation did NOT occur – even if the NFL would like to make believe it did

    And don’t be so naive to think every team doesn’t have Deflators on staff. The NY Times of 11/23/13 details the jobs of the TWO deflators employed by the Giants for example.

  98. 12coltsfan12 says: 110% innocent.

    -I’m a scientist 1st, colts fan 2nd. there was no air missing from the balls.

    =========================

    Thank you. The reality is – and I think some NFL fans are beginning to realize this – is that if Goodell can simply fabricate reasons to suspend Brady, he can fabricate reasons to do anything he wants to any team or any player

    In short, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander and expect the Colts and most other teams to be victimized next (anyone but the Jets, who’s former executives all now run the NFL offices)

    I’m not really a pro-Union guy – I favor balance

    But the reality here is that “Management” in the NFL front offices is out of control, and the players union is right to defend their players and restore balance

  99. jetfanfolife says:
    Jul 9, 2015 12:37 PM

    Sorry I’m late on commenting Tom Brady let the air out of my tires

    NEW ENGLAND DEFLATRIOTS!!!!

    ——————————

    Jet fan, no one took air out of your tires. You’ve just got way too many clowns in that car.

  100. Man, Lake Erie must really be polluted because the Buffalo fans are wacky. So much hate from WNY.

  101. 12coltsfan12 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:28 PM

    110% innocent.

    -I’m a scientist 1st, colts fan 2nd. there was no air missing from the balls.
    ——————
    You’re an idiot 1st…..and foremost.

  102. bigsausagepizza12 says:

    Jul 9, 2015 1:54 PM

    Conclusion: Pats fans do not work and sit on sports websites all day.

    I would to if I lived in the New England area, all their other teams suck
    ——————————
    Yeah we really have it rough here on the New England Sports scene:

    2001: Patriots Super Bowl Champions
    2003: Patriots Super Bowl Champions
    2004: Red Sox World Series Champions
    2004: Patriots Super Bowl Champions
    2007: Red Sox World Series Champions
    2008: Celtics NBA Champions
    2011: Bruins Stanley Cup Champions
    2013: Red Sox World Series Champions
    2014: Patriots Super Bowl Champions

    Not to mention:
    2 AFC titles
    another NBA Finals appearance
    another Stanley Cup appearance

    The longest we’ve gone without a title since 2001 is 3 years.

    It’s called the CITY OF CHAMPIONS for a reason.

  103. Assuming logic has anything to do with this, if Goodell doesn’t clear Brady, then the NFL will have to follow the balls real closely from now on. (Well, they should do that anyway if they are going to insist that the ball has to be within the PSI specs for the entire game). I suspect Goodell has talked to some other experts to find out if what the Pats presented was in fact true.

    All the rest is a non-issue. So what if Brady prefers lower inflated balls and Rogers prefers higher inflated balls. Plus, what’s magical about the specified PSI?

    Whatever he does, they’ll have to address the way things are done to avoid this fiasco that’s been making the NFL look like bush league.

  104. bigsausagepizza12 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 1:50 PM

    What’s with all of the delusional Pats fans come to down vote anything that critiques their untrustworthy organization?

    ———–

    Patriots fans are here because it’s a post about a Patriots player. A better question is why are you here? It seems like only to troll.

  105. Is it really possible that the commissioner of the most popular sport in the country will follow through with crapping on its best player of the last generation, and most successful team?

    I’m still stunned that the guy supposedly in charge of “advancing the brand” would sabotage it so clumsily.

  106. sb44champs says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:19 PM

    Even though the punishments/suspensions were vacated by Tagliabue, Kraft vehemently supported Goodell after manufacturing Bountygate. But now, all of a sudden because it involves the Patriots, Kraft backtracks and insists Goodell is not being fair in his disciplinary process…. Hypocrisy at its finest!

    ———–

    No… Kraft denied any wrong doing at all and begrudging accepted the Patriots punishment because he saw no other way given he couldn’t really sue the league (without risking losing the team). Not hypocrisy at all.

  107. One thing that keeps crossing my mind is that if Brady actually ended up with the 4 game suspension he would only have to play 12 regular season games without the coach having to manage his playing time.

    He might be more fresh at the end of the year then ever before, especially after playing deep into the play offs the last 4 years.

    Patriots just need to go 2-2 under Garoppolo.

    Jags at home should be 1.

    Win the opener (with Bell missing for the Steelers and all the emotion of the opening game) and suddenly you have a healthy Brady ready to go that may have gone 2-2 anyway.

    The Opener really because a critical game if the suspension is upheld.

  108. rob471773 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:50 PM
    bigsausagepizza12 says:

    Jul 9, 2015 1:54 PM

    Conclusion: Pats fans do not work and sit on sports websites all day.

    I would to if I lived in the New England area, all their other teams suck
    ——————————

    It’s called the CITY OF MORONS for a reason.

  109. crush22 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:49 PM

    12coltsfan12 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:28 PM

    110% innocent.

    -I’m a scientist 1st, colts fan 2nd. there was no air missing from the balls.
    ——————
    You’re an idiot 1st…..and foremost.

    —————-

    “Well, the Jerk Store called, and they’re running out of you”

    Even that comeback is better than yours.

  110. Brady was voted the third best player in the league by the players in that league. If a court of opinion means anything it should be a court of ones peers. The players either think he is innocent or they don’t think that what he was suspended for mattered one bit. I believe they fear if a player of Brady’s caliber can be railroaded thru a media smear of false facts and phony, made up reports none are safe from similar treatment.

  111. Please just rule already, enough of the whiny Patriots* fans commenting on every other post with their little agenda. The whiniest, most pathetic fan base in the NFL. Uphold, reduce, anything to get it over with and shut up these crybabies.

  112. Bullcharger,
    We’re here because we are true NFL fans, we care about the game and making sure that people who disgrace it are held accountable. Real NFL fans are tired of seeing one team be pampered by the league and allowed to play by their own set of rules. We, the real NFL fans have been around before the Pats ever won a Super Bowl and before Tom Brady was a superstar. We, the loyal NFL value the standards of Vince Lombardi and care to keep it intact. We care about the game of football and keeping it pure. We realize the Patriots ways have eroded the integrity of the game. Pats fans don’t care about any of this.

  113. I read the Wells Report completely as I wanted to see for myself just how bad it was, not just the bullet points the media beat into the ground, grossly out of context most times.
    I can’t count how many times the Wells Report takes what people say as the honest truth, but when a Patriots staff person says something the report goes on to say “We find this to be highly unlikely”, without giving a reason.
    Fact of the matter is, as a Patriots fan, based on the circumstantial evidence, I think it’s probable that the balls were deflated, but as far as proof, especially in the case of Brady (where there is NONE) they have next to nothing.
    All those “leaked” reports that ESPN ran with, that the NFL somehow leaked out, that were incorrect or flat out wrong, are just ignored.
    The NFL let this thing drag on and snowball. As a Pats fan, I couldn’t enjoy the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl because I knew this one wouldn’t “count” either, as the AFC Championship had just ended and the deflated footballs talk began. Finally, all those “haven’t won since Spygate” clowns like Chris Carter, Tom Jackson, and the rest now have a new mantra, just in time, as their Spygate excuse hit it’s expiration date.
    However, with some distance to the whole thing, the few remaining people that continue the mindless cheaters!cheaters!cheaters! comments are now just embarrassing themselves.
    People always say the Patriots are arrogant, despite never trash talking and giving boring cliche answers about other teams. Patriots fans? WE are arrogant. I admit it. But the fans of other teams clinging to anything to rationalize why their team can’t beat them? They’re just bitter.

  114. Brady is guilty & EVERYONE knows it. Pats fans just dont want him to be punished for it. Sorry but cheating is cheating and not getting to play goes back to before kindergarten. 4 games is to light of a punishment, a joke to anyone that believes in fair play.

  115. Brady deserves no reduction in his suspension. Patriots lemmings will be on suicide watch. BOOK IT!

  116. sevenwords says:
    Jul 9, 2015 10:34 AM

    For a guy always harping on keeping the “integrity of the game intact”, any reduction of Brady’s suspension will show everyone that the NFL and Goodell have no integrity left.

    —————————————–

    The integrity of the NFL left the stadium during the first half of the AFCCG, when the Colts sideline guys started messing with the intercepted football, and it left town when Mort reported that 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were 2psi under regulations, and has been no where to be found since the Wells report was released and as a consequence, Brady got suspended, and the Patriots got fined, and lost a couple of draft picks.

    So please don’t cry about the integrity of the game, since Roger Goodell has repeatedly operated with no integrity.

  117. loknezz says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:29 PM

    trollaikman8 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:04 PM
    >Reality is never was deflation below the legal limit ever proven

    lol – so they fired 2 equipment guys for no reason?

    -sincerely,
    The Deflator™
    ======================

    They were suspended (not fired) at the behest of the NFL, not the Patriots. The article was posted on this very website (May 19, 2015, 7:10 AM EDT).
    ——————————————–
    Trolls, by their very nature don’t let facts get in the way of a good haters rant. It’s a lot like how the commissioner of the NFL works. Stick a finger in the air, feel how the wind of public opinion is blowing and take it from there. Facts be damned.

  118. bastageman says:
    Jul 9, 2015 3:15 PM

    Please just rule already, enough of the whiny Patriots* fans commenting on every other post with their little agenda. The whiniest, most pathetic fan base in the NFL. Uphold, reduce, anything to get it over with and shut up these crybabies.
    ———————————————————-
    Our agenda is to right a very obvious wrong. To clear the name of the greatest QB ever and to remove the suggested taint of the last SB victory. To fans of teams that can’t comprehend even the possibility of achieving what Brady and the Patriots have accomplished our agenda may seem small but those fans look at us through thick green glasses of pure jealousy. Cry all you want. Patriot fans, New England people in general fight for what we believe is right and we don’t cave in because someone tells us to stop. That’s why Kraft has a lot of work to do to get Patriots fans trust again.

  119. The sad part is that when Roger Goodell does the right thing and completely exonerates Tom Brady due to a complete lack of evidence proving any wrong doing on his part, the haters are just going to scream “inside job” and assume he did so because of his “relationship” with Robert Kraft and completely ignore the fact that there is ZERO EVIDENCE to prove Brady did anything wrong. Mark my words, Brady will be exonerated and he wont miss a game. The only “deal” being done behind closed doors is Brady agreeing not to sue Goodell and the NFL if the suspension is vacated.

  120. Tee hee 🙂

    Poor, poor Patriot hater. 🙂

    28-24 must have been even more emotionally devastating than I thought! LOL!!!

  121. Mike Kensil, NFL vice president of operations, to Patriots equipment staffer Dave Schoenfield at halftime of the AFCCG: “You are in big f . . . ing trouble.”

    These guys thought they caught the Lindbergh kidnapper and they just can’t let it go.

  122. goingthextramile says: Jul 9, 2015 3:22 PM

    Brady deserves no reduction in his suspension. Patriots lemmings will be on suicide watch. BOOK IT!


    Fact: There are no Patriot lemmings. All fans of the World Champions are intelligent and we appreciate both the Champions and the sport itself.

    Fact: No Patriot fan would be defending Tom Brady if he was a cheat or if there was tangible evidence of such. Sorry Patriot hater but WAAAAH HE BEAT MY TEAM TOO MUCH is not evidence. 🙂

    Fact: We would welcome no reduction by Goodell. That means would go to court. THEN the fun will begin when Team Brady requests discovery on all communications in the NFL front office with clear cut evidence of their incompetence and bias that would mean the end of this commissioner’s and his stooges jobs.

    Fact: Brady would have no problem handing over his phone in such a scenario. He has nothing to hide. 🙂

    Fact: All Patriot haters are wussies who would rather whine about the World Champions than demand better of their own teams. That is why it’s so much fun to laugh at them!

    Never said you had to like facts but facts are facts. Can’t dispute what is fact.

    🙂

    #OHSNAP
    #WARFreeBrady
    #WARSuperBowlChampions
    #WARGreatestQBOfAllTime
    #WARGreatestTeamOfAllTime
    #RackMe

  123. billswillnevermove says:
    Jul 9, 2015 9:53 AM

    Looks to me like Brady’s nose grew five times longer after his appeal hearing.
    ————————————————
    And your junk grew five times longer after looking at Bradys pic. What’s your point?

  124. imodan says:
    Jul 9, 2015 3:24 PM

    Suspended by the NFL, fired by the patriots. Go figure, the two key witnesses get fired by the patriots so they are no longer part of the NFL and Goodell has no right to subpoena them, as part of the CBA the third biggest witness, Brady, is allowed to not cooperate. Tough to get the bottom of this when the 3 biggest ppl to interview are untouchable. I say go to court, lets put everything out on the table and go from there.

  125. crush22 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 3:09 PM

    rob471773 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 2:50 PM
    bigsausagepizza12 says:

    Jul 9, 2015 1:54 PM

    Conclusion: Pats fans do not work and sit on sports websites all day.

    I would to if I lived in the New England area, all their other teams suck
    ——————————

    It’s called the CITY OF MORONS for a reason.

    ——-

    New England is not a city, it is a grouping of six states: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island.

    Man, where do these people come from?

  126. Brady was just voted, by his peers, as the 3rd best player in the NFL. That is how much (little) this matters to these guys.

    BUT to Goodell it matters. How long has his leadership been questioned? Probably almost 2 years now. This was the perfect manufactured diversion to keep the heat off him.

    All you mouth breathers looking for Brady’s execution – you are the ones he was trying to dupe.

    The players had their say. 3Rd best player and 2nd best QB in the NFL

  127. truetrue85 says:
    Jul 9, 2015 3:36 PM

    And if the suspension sticks based on the ABUNDANT AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE then will you patsie losers say Goodell “has it out” for Kraft……the guy who gave him his crazy high salary? Up til now Kraft has supported every punishment goodell has put out, so he must think he is pretty dang fair and good at his job. Why the sudden change??? Oh yea, he doesnt like be punished when he is caught. From now on in the league lets have the players just say “i refuse to cooperate, i plead the 5th and will withhold evidence, lets just use the honor system and just trust me when i say i didnt do anything wrong.”

  128. Goodell will throw Ted Wells under the bus and Brady will play in the opener.
    Roger and Kraft are cozying up on a couch in Sun Valley Idaho as we speak and it’ll be taken care of.
    The Ernie Adams puppet show continues in NE…….

  129. Mr. Cecil says:
    Jul 9, 2015 3:22 PM

    “I read the Wells Report completely as I wanted to see for myself just how bad it was, ”
    —————————————————————

    Well it sounds like you went into the Wells report completely unbiased. LOL. You are seeing what you want to see. Is it “highly unlikely” a ball boy threattened to go to ESPN about Tom Brady giving him free stuff? yes ofcourse. Who would want to stop getting free stuff? And why would ESPN even care about that? They must have had some real dirt on Tom. And is it “highly unlikely” that the term ‘deflator’ ‘refers to weight loss? Yes. Why? Because out of the thousand or more times ive heard the word deflate, it has never once referred to weight. Its common sense, u can say “no def proof” all u want, but the NFL doesnt need that. They need common sense. Why did Tom contact JJ 6 times after the game? A man Tom has NEVER called before. All the sudden Tom is his best friend? again, HIGHLY UNLIKELY, its more likely Tom was worred about being caught and just called him to make sure he knew what to say. Ignore common sense all u want, that doesnt change a thing. There was no Vid evidence of Hernandez shoootin someone, but common sense shows he more prob than not did it- hence a guilty verdict.

  130. It is so sad how haters refuse to listen to anything other than the voices in their head. He is guilty because of a nickname. That’s all you have? Great No cell phone to examine. Funny, they had the cell phone conversations of the ball boys so wouldn’t they have any messages from Brady? The ball boys were fired. Wouldn’t they talk if they were fired for illegally deflating and had anything on the Patriots. Wouldn’t you talk if you were fired by a company and you new they were breaking laws?

    Facts are that Walt Anderson was able to remember the exact inflations of all 24 footballs weeks after the game when he was dealing with Ted Wells. I wish I had a memory that was as good his “supposedly” is.
    Why would Walt Anderson admit to Wells that he didn’t measure the PSI before games, like many refs admitted to not doing in a NY Times story, and leave him open to an NFL investigation for not doing his job properly.
    A guy can delfate 12 footballs in a 90 second bathroom visit yet the NFL refs couldn’t the measure the PSI of 24 footballs during a 15 minute halftime. It must take them that long because they have no experience measuring PSI because they never did it or cared about it till now.
    If one pressure gauge gave a higher reading and the other gave a lower PSI reading and Walt Anderson doesn’t know which he used, how does that show guilt Haters? That is the type of question haters won’t answer.
    Science showed how footballs could have lost PSI and Colts balls were also low so how does that make Brady guilty?
    Peter King posted stats showing there was no difference between home statistics of Brady versus his road stats. You realize that the home team handles all footballs before the game and can’t be tampered with by the Patriots on road games. Now that you learned this lesson, why were his stats almost entirely the same if he needed to deflate footballs?
    How did he lead the team to the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history if the balls weren’t deflated?
    The next league investigation should be Crygate. Maybe they can explain how the Patriot’s win because they are better than your team and all patriot haters can do to make themselves feel better is to ignore facts and cry cheaters. We all know how you haters root for teams that are as pure as a newborn baby and have never been found guilty of cheating. If you can’t beat them on the field, just whine about it you holier than thow haters.
    Buffalo, the only team to lose 4 Super Bowls in a row.
    Hey jets fans, how was that parade in 1969?

  131. Deflation due to the elements of Nature/Science/Ideal Gas Law has been thoroughly covered. What has not been discussed is the obvious dilemma for the NFL from the other end of the Thermometer.

    Footballs inflated/deflated in an Air Conditioned Room, let’s say 68 degrees, with the games played in Miami, Phoenix San Diego, Houston with outdoor temperature around 90 degrees, added to that the footballs BAKING in the
    Sun could raise their temperature close to 100 degrees.
    PSI of those footballs at Half Time would be well over 13.5 psi. Possibly as high as 16.0 psi.

    These results would further the embarrassment of Goodell & the NFL. It would also solidify Brady’s innocence by highlighting two Monumental Facts:
    #1.) No Evidence of Deliberate Rule 17 violation
    #2.) Ideal Gas Law ( Weather = Wind Rain Cold Heat ) CONTROLS the fluctuation of psi levels of footballs during any given NFL football game. Sometimes causing Deflation below 12.5 psi and other times causing Inflation above 13.5 psi.

    Can the next 8th Grade Science student provide for us this scientific experiment/analysis.

  132. More than half of the Wells report was devoted to the science. If there was no deflation, there is nothing that effects the integrity of the game.

    Since the Wells report has come out, the science behind it has been debunked by not just fans of the Patriots but independent scientists and groups such as AEI which reviewed the calculations and assumptions.

    It makes so much sense for an independent expert or panel to review the science in the Wells report. The tests do not have to be redone, just reviewed. I don’t understand why this was not done or maybe it was.

    If there was no deflation, why should there be punishment? The Wells report is biased and should not be relied on as the only source of evidence. For example, it is NOT disputed that the intercepted ball was gauged by the COLTS on the sideline and it was found to be at the PSI level per the ideal gas law. In other words NOT DEFLATED. This is for the most part ignored in the Wells report. WHY???

    I believe the bias has to do with trying to find a justification for the $5+ million bill from Wells.

    In addition, I don’t care how it looks if Goodell reverses the punishments. Just like all the players Goodell punishes, Goodell MUST take responsibility for his actions. If the Patriots did nothing – OBVIOUSLY no punishment is warranted.

  133. STILLlolatpatshaters says:
    Jul 9, 2015 3:46 PM

    Fact: Brady would have no problem handing over his phone in such a scenario. He has nothing to hide. 🙂

    Never said you had to like facts but facts are facts. Can’t dispute what is fact.
    —————————————————————

    Hey “intelligent ” Patriots fan- do you know what a fact is little buddy? Has there been one report let alone Tom himself saying he’d have no problem giving up his phone in court? Nope, so how is that a “fact”? Its not. And if Tom has no problem giving up his phone why not just do that right away and save us all this time? Now if Goodell keeps the ruling as is and Tom accepts it and doesnt go to court my guess is you will say “he is still innocent, he just doesnt have time to deal with a stupid court hearing” instead of seeing the fact- he wont give up his phone because he is hiding something. I hope Goodell keeps this as is- then we find out the truth. Either it goes to court and we find everything out, or brady takes the 4 games and we know he is guilty.

  134. dontletfactsgetintheway says:
    Jul 9, 2015 4:08 PM

    Its more than a nickname- its also the ball boy talking about “going to ESPN” about Brady. Why would he? SOmething must have been up. Also Tom calling JJ 6 times after the game- why? They werent friends and never called eachother, all the sudden they are best friends? And the league looked at the two ball boys WORK phones, given to them by the team. Thats all. No personal phones were looked at. So YES, if you take toms personal phone you CAN find more evidence than what was on the ball boys work phones. If there was some evidence on work phones, common sense says there is more on non work phone because thats where most of your conversations would be about doing ileggal stuff.

  135. to everyone bringing up the stupid cell phone;

    no union be it teacher, police, firefighter, plumber, stripper, etc., etc., would ever allow a union member to turn over a cell phone to management if there is no agreement for it in the union contract. It’s the precedent it sets

  136. Reading these comments makes me realize they are releasing total different information to the Boston area than the rest of the world. Homers everywhere.
    Good luck in court Tommy when you get your precious cell phone records supoenaed.

  137. So many delusional Pats fans in here, no evidence? There is plenty, and we’ll see it when Goodell holds firm and Brady ends up in court, giving up his cell phone, and testimony from The Deflator. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put all the pieces together to realize something was seriously wrong here. You are just in denial that your Golden Boy is at the center of it.

  138. This will not go to court. There is no way Brady will allow himself, JJ and JM testify under oath. He nor the Pats have zero control on what they say under oath. There is no way Brady wants to play hard ball with the NFL in a court room. He will crushed under the testimony of others and his credibility will be destroyed before he takes the stand.

  139. It is not that the haters don’t like the facts, it is that they can’t read.

  140. Fans are fans. They believe what they want to believe. However, I predict Commissioner Goodell will “stay” with the initial punishment.
    I also believe the Commissioner wanted Mr. Brady to speak for himself and gave every opportunity for him to do so but didn’t and instead had his legal counsel speak which probably sealed Mr. Brady’s fate.
    That said, look for Mr. Brady to drop all appeals. To do so would invoke and subpeana all involved which might embarrass Mr. Brady and further tarnish his career.

  141. You are just in denial that your Golden Boy is at the center of it

    See ya in the playoffs, pal.

    That is, if your team can make it.

  142. sevenwords says:
    Jul 9, 2015 4:51 PM
    …no evidence? There is plenty, and we’ll see it when Goodell holds firm and Brady ends up in court…

    You are at least somewhat correct as there is plenty of evidence. Overwhelming empirical evidence that the football deflation was caused by laws of physics. Maybe if you and Goodell actually kept up with the story, and cared about the truth, you would admit that fact.

    All football fans, no matter how much you envy the greatness of the Patriots organization (and their fan base), should hope that Brady does take this to court and gets a Judge to hear the case. If Brady, his team of lawyers and the supporting cast (equipment team) get their voices heard in court, that will put an end to the Clown show that is the current makeup of the NFL executive team.

  143. jetfanfolife says:
    Jul 9, 2015 12:37 PM
    Sorry I’m late on commenting Tom Brady let the air out of my tires

    NEW ENGLAND DEFLATRIOTS!!!!

    How does it feel to be a fan of a team that sucks every year?
    Feel good?

    *************************

    Better than being a fan of a team who needs to cheat to win superbowls(****), better than a team who wins all 16 games and all playoff games only to lose the big one (the one game where they decided not to cheat)! Better to lose gracefully than to cheat! Better than a team who smoked the Jets during regular season only to lose to them during the playoffs.

    You like apples?

    J-E-T-S! Jets! Jets! Jets!

  144. See you in court sonny!!!

    Other than the entire elimination of the suspensionand that’s where it ends up. In court Brady wins hands down. He plays opening night.

  145. jetfanfolife says:
    Jul 10, 2015 6:28 AM

    jetfanfolife says:
    Jul 9, 2015 12:37 PM
    Sorry I’m late on commenting Tom Brady let the air out of my tires

    NEW ENGLAND DEFLATRIOTS!!!!

    How does it feel to be a fan of a team that sucks every year?
    Feel good?

    *************************

    Better than being a fan of a team who needs to cheat to win superbowls(****), better than a team who wins all 16 games and all playoff games only to lose the big one (the one game where they decided not to cheat)! Better to lose gracefully than to cheat! Better than a team who smoked the Jets during regular season only to lose to them during the playoffs.

    You like apples?

    J-E-T-S! Jets! Jets! Jets!

    How many titles have the jets won in the past 25 plus years?

  146. I love how the detractors are still losing their minds over something almost as severe as too much pine tar on George Brett’s bat……And are still pretending that the league has gone easy on NE? What happened in 06 with Miami’s actual illegal video tape vs. legit tape in the wrong spot in 07. Or has anyone from the league checked in on Eli’s or Aaron’s football prep processes, even for clarity? If what I’ve seen from the Lil Rogey is preferential than I am putting Roger in the “With friends like this who needs enemies” category.

  147. The problems with the NFL leadership are many;

    #1.) NFL Headquarters located in NYC

    #2.) Former Jets = Goodell others.

    #3.) Goodell will not allow his ego to be deflated – Not even as little as 0.5 psi.

    #4.) The US Courts will shread the Well$ Report & Goodell’s fines/suspensions.

    #5.) Back to Goodell as Commosh

  148. 2001: Patriots Super Bowl Champions (tuck rule)
    2003: Patriots Super Bowl Champions (adam vinatieri saves Brady’s ass again)
    2004: Red Sox World Series Champions (roids)
    2004: Patriots Super Bowl Champions (spygate)
    2007: Red Sox World Series Champions (roids)
    2008: Celtics NBA Champions (NBA is corrupt)
    2011: Bruins Stanley Cup Champions (Daddy Campbell makes sure no Bruins are suspended)
    2013: Red Sox World Series Champions (roids)
    2014: Patriots Super Bowl Champions (deflated balls)

    Look at all these illegitimate titles won by Boston teams.

  149. My teams and city are vastly inferior to anything sports related in New England. I go on PFT and negatively comment about New England sports on Patriots related posts because I’m insecure about my own teams. I don’t like facts.

    -Bigsausagepizza

  150. I have some questions- people seem to forget that it was 50 degrees at game time for the AFCCG, not 20 below. They also seem to forget that the balls for the Pats went missing AFTER the refs checked them and that a guy that nicknamed himself the DEFLATOR was seen on tape going into a bathroom WITH NO URINAL and claiming he went the bathroom. I got two words for the commish- EXEMPT LIST! Let the cheater miss 15 games while it goes to court. Also, Pats fans say that the NFL had the deflators phone. They did not have his phone- they had all the texts between the ball guy and the equipment guy.

  151. You like apples?

    —————–

    Leave it to a New Yorker to quote Good Will Hunting’s Matt Damon (of Cambridge, MA).

  152. rrickjordan says:
    Jul 11, 2015 8:35 AM
    I have some questions- people seem to forget that it was 50 degrees at game time for the AFCCG, not 20 below. They also seem to forget that the balls for the Pats went missing AFTER the refs checked them and that a guy that nicknamed himself the DEFLATOR was seen on tape going into a bathroom WITH NO URINAL and claiming he went the bathroom. I got two words for the commish- EXEMPT LIST! Let the cheater miss 15 games while it goes to court. Also, Pats fans say that the NFL had the deflators phone. They did not have his phone- they had all the texts between the ball guy and the equipment guy.
    ======

    It was 48 degrees at game time. Noone said 20 below. The temperature inside was between 70 and 75 (no true known starting point) meaning a drop in temperature of 20+ degrees.

    The balls were walked out in front of all of the Refs with no attempt to hide.

    I don’t know about you, but I don’t require a urinal to go to the bathroom, a toilet would work fine. Also if asked at any given time in the past whether I used the urinal or toilet I would probably say urinal but I sometimes use the toilet. I just never paid very close attention — when I gotta take a leak a tree will do just fine.

    And just so you know, the ball boy and the Deflator were one and the same in this story so if they had the ball boy’s texts, they got them from his phone, and he is the Deflator, so they had the deflator’s phone.

  153. Yes, if they don’t rule soon, it will screw up planning for the Patriots. So the league will act fast.

    What does that sound like?

    Different Rules,
    T-Sizzle

  154. The nfl has shown that at the end of the day money rules. I fully expect Goodell to ignore the evidence of the report. The Pats employed someone called the deflator. The deflator removed balls from the field of play into a private bathroom. Tom has indicated he likes the football soft. Tom signed footballs and jerseys for said deflator. Dosn’t take a genius.

  155. Pats fans have to know Tommy Boy cheated. Their just so used to a franchise that has no ethics they’ve been conditioned to think it’s ok. History will always have an asterisk next to the Pats “championships”.

  156. The nfl has shown that at the end of the day money rules. I fully expect Goodell to ignore the lack of evidence of the report. The Pats employed someone who called himself the deflator. The deflator removed balls from the referees room, down a hallway past James Daniel (who had been alerted by Dean Blandino that tampering was a possibility) into a bathroom anyone could use to take a leak. Tom has indicated he likes the football at the low end of the permitted scale. Tom signed footballs and jerseys for said deflator and thousands of others just like him. Dosn’t take a genius.

  157. bigsausagepizza12 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 12:42 PM

    2001: Patriots Super Bowl Champions (tuck rule)
    2003: Patriots Super Bowl Champions (adam vinatieri saves Brady’s ass again)
    2004: Red Sox World Series Champions (roids)
    2004: Patriots Super Bowl Champions (spygate)
    2007: Red Sox World Series Champions (roids)
    2008: Celtics NBA Champions (NBA is corrupt)
    2011: Bruins Stanley Cup Champions (Daddy Campbell makes sure no Bruins are suspended)
    2013: Red Sox World Series Champions (roids)
    2014: Patriots Super Bowl Champions (deflated balls)

    Look at all these illegitimate titles won by Boston teams.

    ok ill bite and entertain you, tuck rule not against rule so strike one. 2004 no proof of roids strike two 2004 spygate wasn’t illegal and strike three your outta here, you lose little troll

  158. And of course, since we were told Monday night to expect something Tuesday or Wednesday, we’re at COB on Wednesday and nothing from Goodell.

    Par for the course.

  159. “The Pats employed someone who called himself the deflator.”

    When he was trying to lose weight, sure. Is that so hard to believe? A person who spends time around footballs would use a metaphor for weight loss based on how footballs inflate and deflate? Try looking on Google sometime to see how many people use the word that way. Hint: somebody did exactly that on the NFL Network.

    “The deflator removed balls from the referees room, down a hallway past James Daniel (who had been alerted by Dean Blandino that tampering was a possibility) into a bathroom anyone could use to take a leak. ”

    Yep. McNally walked right past half a dozen people, any of whom could have stopped him, carrying a giant bag of footballs on his back. Stealth! And this wasn’t atypical – nobody ever thought that game balls needed to be treated like diamonds before that day. No matter what kind of garbage Ted Wells has to say, the fact is that nobody cared.

    “Tom has indicated he likes the football at the low end of the permitted scale. ”

    Yep. He hasn’t indicaated, however, that he wants them _below_ the low end of the permitted scale. Nor has he told anybody to tamper with footballs after they had been given to the refs. That’s just an accusation that Ryan Grigson made up. So far, it seems to be without merit.

    “Tom signed footballs and jerseys for said deflator and thousands of others just like him. Dosn’t take a genius.”

    You know, all of this would be easier to explain if the gas law weren’t a factor. Because of the cold temperature, all of the footballs lost air pressure. It still feels like a lot of football fans just refuse to believe that. They think that 11.5 psi is a sign of cheating, when it’s exactly the opposite.

    If we didn’t have that loss of air pressure because of cooling, this is what you would be saying. “The balls were at 12.5 psi before the game and 12.5 psi at halftime. Brady has said that he likes balls at 12.5 psi. He signs a lot of memorabilia.”

    “It doesn’t take a genius.”

    Apparently it does.

    If you make the adjustment for temperature, it’s been clear for several months that nobody tampered with the balls. Everything since then has just been a PR exercise by a league office that refuses to admit that it made a mistake.

    One last question: why were the Patriots’ footballs over-inflated at the end of the game? Why were the Colts’ footballs still underinflated at the same time? I have a simple explanation that fits with everything else in evidence. Do you?

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