Cliff Avril: Not finishing Super Bowl sucked, but glad docs pulled me out

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In the third quarter of the Super Bowl, Seahawks defensive end Cliff Avril took a blow to the head and was forced to the sideline so that doctors could evaluate him for a concussion.

Avril wasn’t allowed to return to the game, something that former Seattle defensive coordinator Dan Quinn said was a factor in the Patriots’ fourth quarter comeback and ultimate victory because Avril and Michael Bennett were having success against the New England offensive line. Avril reflected on the end of the game at home in Georgia recently and said that he was happy with the doctors’ decision even if he wanted to be on the field.

“It was real disappointing,” Avril said, via the Macon Telegraph. “All of us are competitors; all of us want to be out there to help our team win in any kind of way. For me not to be able to finish one of the biggest games you’ll ever play in, it sucked. But at the same time, I’m glad the docs decided to not put me back in. Concussions aren’t anything to play with.”

The NFL approved a new injury timeout rule this offseason to give certified athletic trainers working as spotters the ability to stop a game so that a player who may have suffered a concussion out of the game for evaluation. That rule wouldn’t have applied to Avril in the Super Bowl, but it would have applied to Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman. Edelman, who wound up scoring the game’s final touchdown, never left the game after a shot to the head, something Competition Committee chairman Rich McKay cited as “part of the issue” that led the league to put the new rule into effect for the 2015 season.

75 responses to “Cliff Avril: Not finishing Super Bowl sucked, but glad docs pulled me out

  1. Edelman seemed fine, but oops its the Patriots lets put in a new rule.. The Leagues anti-patriot bias is not even funny anymore.

  2. So what you are saying is that one team was required to comply with the rules and the Pats weren’t, and that became an issue?
    You don’t say…..

  3. doe22us says:
    Jul 10, 2015 2:15 PM
    Edelman seemed fine, but oops its the Patriots lets put in a new rule.. The Leagues anti-patriot bias is not even funny anymore.

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    It is insane how many rules the league put in because of the Pats…making them look bad.

  4. Edelman clearly scrambled his brains on that hit. But he bounced back up and made no moves to get off the field. Running back the tape showed something the NFL doesn’t feel like should be ignored, especially in light of the giant lawsuit that they continue to deal with. So, they put a system in place to help protect players from themselves.

    It has nothing to do with the Patriots, guys. Stop being so touchy.

  5. blackandbluedivision says:
    Jul 10, 2015 2:18 PM
    doe22us says:
    Jul 10, 2015 2:15 PM
    Edelman seemed fine, but oops its the Patriots lets put in a new rule.. The Leagues anti-patriot bias is not even funny anymore.

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    It is insane how many rules the league put in because of the Pats…making them look bad.
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    If they didn’t have a history of cheating, there would be no need for rules.

    Cheaters and their football stupid fans.

  6. It’s amazing how many commentors look for excuses for their teams inability to finish. A great play was made! Two plays earlier another amazing play was made by Kearse. It was an amazing finish. This time it came down in favor of the Pats. Celebrate. Don’t skirt your teams responsibility by reaching for ridiculous excuses like deflated footballs.

  7. Whitetrash69 – Notice that it’s a NEW rule. Of course, Patriot haters ( read jealous ) don’t care about that. Refer to Hardasahawk’s comment.

  8. Two plays after Edelman’s alleged concussion he caught a 20 yard laser, right over the middle. I suppose he just grabbed the right ball.

    Two plays later…watch the film.

    But, that fact doesn’t fit into the narrative of PFT.

  9. This rule is new. The rule at the time wasn’t enforced. The Pats team doctors are required to test a player for a concussion after suffering a head shot. They didn’t, the NFL made this rule so independent people decide whether the player should be tested because the Pats doctors failed to do their job.

  10. I’ll be coming back to this site at 4:59 PM today to see that Roger Dumbdell continued Brady’s suspension at 4 games. I think the whole deflategate is a joke and believe Wells was given an agenda to follow, I would prefer Brady play all 16 games this year so Pat fans don’t try to asterisk the Bills’ 2015 AFC East title we earn this year.

    I suspect this post may set a record for the most thumbs down – from those who don’t think Brady is innocent and/or from those who don’t think the Bills will be 2015 AFC champs.

  11. Cliff Avril was lying unconscious on the field. They revived him and he gingerly walked off the field with aid. The game was delayed for several minutes after his injury and the network played several commercials while he was attended to.

    Edelman was not hit in the head because that type of hit would have required a 15 yard penalty for a blow to the head which obviously was not called. Despite the legal hit Edelman was later given concussion protocol on the bench and passed.

  12. blackandbluedivision says:
    Jul 10, 2015 2:18 PM
    …..
    It is insane how many rules the league put in because of the Pats…

    I think the only real insane rule change that the league has made that was somewhat Pats related was the change to the ineligible receiver rule made this off-season, simply because of the tantrum the Ravens made over the Pats completely legal use of ineligible receivers in the AFCCG.

    The Ravens throw a tantrum over the legal use of ineligible receivers, so the competition committee has to change the rule? Why was there not more outrage over this immaturity and cowardice on the part of the Ravens and the competition committee?

    Ridiculous.

    As for some of the other rules the Pats have arguably impacted such as…

    – removal of the Tuck rule – I think most of us were in favor of its removal, although the Steelers voted against its removal (Pats and ‘Skins abstained).
    – protect QB knees rule – Probably not a bad rule.
    – increase height of goal posts – Good rule.
    – Extra Point Rule (make PATs a longer kick) – Good rule.

    and, finally….

    – no DBs allowed to make faces at or pass gas within five yards of any WRs. Okay, yeah, that rule is also ridiculous.

  13. It never ceases to amaze me how the league continues to create rules that benefit the Patriots. A player on the opposite team has a hangnail? My gosh, pull them out of the game and evaluate them! A Pats player takes a direct blow to the helmet? Throws a punch? Give that man an extra 5 yards. stat. *dramatic eye roll* Pats fans can deny it all they want, but deep-down they know it’s true.

    #TaintedRings

  14. Could any of those “certified athletic trainers” be former NY Jet employees? Any time you have an official who has allegence to a NFL team the bias will come through if they feel it can help their former team. The league is engaged in a witch hunt against the Patriots using those so called neutral parties. Vincent and Kinsel are evidence enough of what happens when league officials associated with loser teams, like the Jets, are put in a position of authority over competition they cannot figure out. McKay used the Patriots and a player who was not hit in the head according to the on field offical but they are an easy mark for the sports media so, why not.

  15. Count your blessings Patriots because if Avril would have stayed in that game the Seahawks would have won by 3 touchdowns. And if Lane would not have gotten hurt it might have been 40 points like last year.

  16. massappeal12345 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 2:41 PM

    Two plays after Edelman’s alleged concussion he caught a 20 yard laser, right over the middle. I suppose he just grabbed the right ball.

    Two plays later…watch the film.

    But, that fact doesn’t fit into the narrative of PFT.
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    If that’s your logic you’ve obviously never played the game.

    If having a concussion means you walk in circles and talk to the goal posts, they wouldn’t need special rules to keep teams from savaging their own for a win (like the Pats and the Horse Steroid Steelers).

  17. That whole 4th quarter is painful to think about. Ricardo Lockette getting blatantly tripped on 3rd down to force the Seahawks to punt, Avril leaving the game leaving the Seahawks with one starting D linemen…. Then Brady completing a 3rd and 14…. And then of course the final play.

    Ugh. Seattle had that game in the bag, and were literally one first down, one 3rd down stop, one not horrible final play call from back to back championships. Painful.

  18. Yet they didn’t, and the Seahawks were very injured team. If the Seahawks had been healthy that wouldn’t have been a close game. But that’s sports, that’s just how it goes sometimes. That why I say you should be counting your blessings instead of saying stuff like you should have won by 20 points. Tom Brady did not kick butt. He was down 24-14 at one point and if it wasn’t for one the worst play calls ever, still would have lost the game to the hurting Seahawks.

  19. Seahawks are the real whiners. They lose Avril and it was unfair. Crabtree was recovering from a torn Achilles during the NFC championship game and he is a “sorry” receiver.

  20. Not whining just waiting for at least a few Patriots fans to realize things went very well for them that day for them to get that Superbowl win. And if it wasn’t for those lucky breaks they might not have pulled it out. It was not the complete domination of the Seahawks that you wish it was.

  21. The Patriots cheating again. Seahawks player is out n not allowed back in but the same doesn’t apply to Edelman who catches winning TD. Edelman should have been out n checked but hey need cheaters to keep on cheating.

  22. “Article should have read. Edelman never left the game after the illegal helmet to helmet hit, which wasn’t called.”

    You might need to go watch that replay again, Kam Chancellor’s helmet was no where near Edelman. He was hit directly by the tattoo that Kam has on his shoulder to remind himself what to hit people with.

  23. alankelly2013 says,

    28 -24

    Quit making excuses, it only makes the comments look worse. A pacifier may help !

  24. lol, funny. No excuses, like I said, that’s how sports goes sometimes. But that was a pretty devastating day. I’m still trying to recover. It will be a while before I get past that one. I probably never will totally.

  25. First of all, Edelman was hit in the shoulder, not in the head. Then he got up and ran. He staggered after being hit, what a surprise. He went through the concussion protocol on the sidelines after the series, when the Pats were notified they should. He passed. His ‘supposed concussion’ didn’t heal after 6 plays, despite armchair physicians like steelerben and hardasahawk making their armchair, unqualified diagnoses. While rooting against the Pats with all their hearts.

    Give me a break with the ‘if the Seahawks were healthy’ routine. Cry of the losers. Know how many Pats were playing hurt in that game and had offseason surgury? Try Hightower, CJones Vollmer, Lafell, just to name a few. The Seahawks were only in position to have a chance because of a miracle catch that rivaled DTyree’s. The Pats were better and tougher that day. They beat the bag out of the Seahawks, including Avril and deserved to win, despite the gutless, classless attempt to pick a fight by the seahawks after the game was lost. Stupidly blowing their chance at a safety.

    Those are the facts.

  26. Awesome to see Avril speak some common sense, which is all too uncommon in NFL players (and most PFT comments). He understands the long term effects and that there is more life to live if he isn’t subject to possible multiple concussions in one day. We see too many players trying to skirt the rules and too many fans ready to have people die or shorten their lives for their entertainment.

    If people are still reading comments this far down, bring on the parade of down thumbs.

  27. “Edelman, who wound up scoring the game’s final touchdown, never left the game after a shot to the head, something Competition Committee chairman Rich McKay cited as “part of the issue” that led the league to put the new rule into effect for the 2015 season.”

    Other than, you know, Edelmann did get tested for a concussion on the sideline, and also had a hip injury from previous games which was the real problem he had.

    I wonder if the league will start banning and changing things after every single Pats win since the former NY Jets employees running the league office can’t stand their success ?

  28. hardasahawk says:
    Jul 10, 2015 2:21 PM
    BTW, before Avril was pulled Brady’s QB rating was 25

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    Yeah, right.

  29. Beat the bag out of the Seahawks you say? Interesting considering Seattle had more TOTAL yards, more yards per play, more yards per pass attempt, more rushing yards, more yards per rush, less interceptions and less turnovers. But OK, if you insist on praising Brady’s measly 6.6 YPA, you go ahead and do so. Yes, the Patriots may have won the game, but to suggest they were the better and tougher team that day is just homer delusionality at its finest. Not that we’d expect any less from fans of a team full of cheaters and criminals.

  30. Many NFL players have played great football while concussed (e.g. Possibly Julian Edelman in the Super Bowl). We all have to defer to the trainer/doctor to make the call on whether a player is concussed now. I’m not sure if that person is a Team or league employee. It probably should be a league employee though since a team employee has an interest in letting his guy play. If Edelman leaves that game it might have been a different outcome. He absolutely abused tharold simon all game… Lane at least had a chance of covering him. I’m a hawks fan and love Richard Sherman, but I kind of wish he would have switched to covering Edelman all game. We needed to get rid of Brady’s security blanket.

  31. alankelly2013 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 3:19 PM

    Count your blessings Patriots because if Avril would have stayed in that game the Seahawks would have won by 3 touchdowns

    Yeah, and if Jerod Mayo and Stevan Ridley had not been lost for the season, and if Dont’a Hightower had been playing with two arms, and Sealver Siliga and Brandon LaFell had both been playing with two legs and…etc., etc., etc., the Pats would have shut out the Seahawks and been up by 4 TDs before the half.

    Wow, look at that, I can post as much idiot as any Seahawks fan and other Pats envier on this board.

    Who knew?

  32. rdubluv12 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 6:14 PM

    Beat the bag out of the Seahawks you say? Interesting considering Seattle had more TOTAL yards…

    This just in, the Pats had more TOTAL points.

    Sorry to ruin your day.

    No, scratch that, I am not at all sorry.

  33. hardasahawk says:
    Jul 10, 2015 2:21 PM
    BTW, before Avril was pulled Brady’s QB rating was 25
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    alankelly2013 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 3:19 PM

    Count your blessings Patriots because if Avril would have stayed in that game the Seahawks would have won by 3 touchdowns
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    When Avril left the game, Brady was 22-30 2 TD 1 INT. I don’t even remember hearing Avril’s name. Bennett was the man for Seattle. More revisionist history. More facts.

  34. More total yards??? Really? That’s like saying the Canucks lost 7-0, but had more shots on goal. LOL.

  35. lanman11 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 2:20 PM

    Edelman apparently was sharp enough to play and score the go ahead TD. What’s the big deal?

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    Other than the fact he was wobbly and knees buckled.

  36. Delusional children who can’t accept reality blame phantom cheating, the refs, anything, but the actual play of the teams deciding the outcome.

    No would have, could have, should have, one team lost and the other team won.

    Grow a pair and move on

  37. elgranderojo79 you belittle the greatest QB who has ever drawn a breath by referring to Edelman as his security blanket but what does it say about your supposed above average CB who will only play one side of the field? For him to cover Edelman he would’ve had to move to the slot and/or the other side of the field, something that he’s obviously not comfortable with. You still mad bro?

  38. It’s cute listening to Pats fans talk about how they beat the hell out of Seattle…. no, actually, you didn’t. If Darrell Bevell had any brains at all, people would seriously questioning why you haven’t won a SB since Spygate.

    Enjoy the final years of Tommy Boy. Hope the AFC East stays a cupcake for you guys like it has for the better part of 15 years.

  39. Stop whining Hawks fans, we know losing the Super Bowl in a close game sucks. No holding call on Helmet catch? Samuel drops pick, Welker drop, Gronk hurt? ….yea we have been there too. Take your loss like men and shut up.

  40. stoopifool says “Pats are the tougher team”

    Man, what are you smoking? If they played in the NFCW, they would be a non factor. Fortunately for you, they don’t. They have had essentially a 19 to 20-game, pre-season to warm up for the playoffs.

    You sure have a short memory. Your last 2 SB losses were to a midlin team with a good D. In fact, without a guy named Vinatieri, a tuck which wasn’t, and your pitiful list of opponents even Terrific Tom and Belichick couldn’t have won a SB.

  41. It’s funny how the league leader in PED users is whining about the loss to the Patriots. Edelman got up an ran straight for 8 more yards after getting hit to the shoulder. Yes that is cheating??? The balls were properly inflated so you can’t use that excuse. Hawks fans have joined the rest of the league in being hypocrites and whining about losing to the Patriot’s. Enjoy watching the replay of the Malcolm Butler interception, you will see that play the rest of you life Seahawks fans. Enjoy some cheese with your whine Seattle! Did you see the size of those rings the Patriot’s got!

  42. dacktle49 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 9:46 PM
    Could not have happened to a better franchise or obnoxious fan base. Thank you Malcolm Butler.

    Well it could’ve happened to a much more obnoxious fanbase had the 9ers even been able to make the playoffs. Well maybe in another 20 years huh?

  43. No Chief it’s definitely you clowns. Pete the Cheat and your front running bandwagon fan base are by far the most obnoxious. Take a vote the 1-2’s are the worst by a land slide.

  44. Seahawks will go the way of the Rams 15 yrs ago. Stopped listening to their HC, had to pay their cheap QB, etc etc. Pats have been SBowl contenders since Kraft bought the team, 20+ yrs ago. Enjoy your 15 mins seahawks fans. Wilson gets franchised, is unhappy and walks. Lynch is getting to that age. Pete Carroll is losing that locker roon. See ya

  45. Ugh. Seattle had that game in the bag, and were literally one first down, one 3rd down stop, one not horrible final play call from back to back championships. Painful.

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    A game in which everything went wrong. Have to give the Pats one after the Giants trolled them twice.

  46. It’s possible the Seahawks win the game if they weren’t so fragile. Fragility is a part of the outcome of NFL games however. I guess some could say the Patriots were fortunate they played a team that ultimately couldn’t hack it.

  47. luckyarmpit says:
    Jul 10, 2015 3:05 PM
    It never ceases to amaze me how the league continues to create rules that benefit the Patriots. A player on the opposite team has a hangnail? My gosh, pull them out of the game and evaluate them! A Pats player takes a direct blow to the helmet? Throws a punch? Give that man an extra 5 yards. stat. *dramatic eye roll* Pats fans can deny it all they want, but deep-down they know it’s true.

    #TaintedRings

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    That is 100% opposite of the truth. The rules are most often changed to purposely not benefit the Patriots. Tuck Rule, legal play, changed it. Receiver contact, legal play. Cracked down after the patriots beat Indy. Legal eligible receiver plays. Rules have now been changed.

  48. vancouversportsbro says:
    Jul 10, 2015 11:06 PM
    Ugh. Seattle had that game in the bag, and were literally one first down, one 3rd down stop, one not horrible final play call from back to back championships. Painful.

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    A game in which everything went wrong. Have to give the Pats one after the Giants trolled them twice.

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    Another way to look at it… The Seahawks rolled out Matthews, who had done absolutely nothing in the NFL and moved the ball on the Patriots. Outside of him the Seahawks were shut down. If he had played like a rookie the Patriots might have won big. Also Brady’s early pick was a gift. He was marching. You can say that Seattle made those plays, but then you also have to say the Patriots made their defensive stops offensive plays and were the better team over all on the day.

  49. Except multiple sources already confirmed Super Bowl champion receiver Julian Edelman WAS tested per the concussion protocol rules AND CLEARED.

    Avril was not so fortunate.

    Sorry Patriot Hater. Maybe the nightmares from 28-24 NEVER end! 🙂

  50. alankelly2013 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 4:57 PM

    You might need to go watch that replay again, Kam Chancellor’s helmet was no where near Edelman. He was hit directly by the tattoo that Kam has on his shoulder to remind himself what to hit people with.
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    Yeah, and Chancellor was never the same after that because he hurt himself more than Edelman. Edelman is 10x tougher that Chancellor. You Seahawks fans are the biggest whiners in the NFL. 28-24. Ha ha.

  51. travlinful says:

    Your last 2 SB losses were to a midlin team with a good D.
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    And the Pats last SB win too. Describes the Seahawks perfectly.

  52. New England won the game fair and square. Injuries happen and coaches out smart themselves all the time. If we want to talk injuries how about the fact that the Hawks were a healthy Carson Palmer away from going 0-2 against Arizona last season. That altered the course of the playoffs more than Avril’s concussion did.

  53. Of course at the end of the day it means the B and B era Pats went from 0-2 to 1-2 in Super Bowls in which the winner was more lucky than good.

  54. 46namredyps11 says:
    Jul 12, 2015 10:03 AM
    Of course at the end of the day it means the B and B era Pats went from 0-2 to 1-2 in Super Bowls in which the winner was more lucky than good.

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    more lucky than good? And yet they now have the record of biggest comeback in SB history? and speaking of lucky, the Hawks catch right at the end had way more to do with luck than Butler seeing Wilson look to his right and making one of the best head’s up plays ever. Even as a rookie.

    In the end, BB didn’t call the timeout and Carroll blinked and tried something not named Lynch and Butler made a perfect play as a rookie. The “luck”, as you call it, happened before that play started, with the ridiculous catch that just happened to bounce the right way, not get kicked by the Pats player jumping overtop and just happen to come down near enough to his hands for him to grab it.

    But you go ahead and call that hard work and training to recognize, and make, the play “luck”, if it makes you feel better.

  55. To be fair, the “luck” was the bounce of the ball. The Hawks player that picked it out of the air while on the ground was just as heads up as Butler’s read of the play. Who also happened to defend that play as well as could be. The ball just bounced in the exactly the right direction for the WR to make the catch.

  56. iamapatsfan says “In the end, BB didn’t call the timeout and Carroll blinked and tried something”

    Sure, it’s easy to say that AFTER THE FACT. Anyone who knows football knows that was a missed call by BB. Butler bailed him out or we would be discussing what a boneheaded mistake failing to stop the clock and allow Brady to come back at the end.

    So, tell me again how BB knew Butler was going to make that interception on 2nd down having failed in practice? And assuming the Hawks scored in one of the next 3 plays, how much time would that have left the Pats for a comeback? No, Belichick in not God although some Pats fans think so. If he were, they would not have been blown out so many times over the years like they were in Buffalo and KC last year.

  57. marima07 says “And the Pats last SB win too. Describes the Seahawks perfectly.”

    And I suppose that’s why Las Vegas opened the line for SB50 with the Hawks at the top just after the game. Seems they were not as impressed as you are with the Pats win in February.

    In 4 SB appearances, the 49ers margin of victory was +24.
    In 6 SB appearances, the Pats margin of victory was +1. Yet Pats fans think they’re a dominant team and Brady is GOAT while playing in one of the weakest divisions in the NFL. In what universe is 4 of 6 anywhere close to 4 of 4? Tell that to Las Vegas. You should get a big payout for 4 of 6 in Keno, for instance. Good luck with that one.

    When the Pats play the Hawks again, I hope both teams are at full strength, then we’ll see who dominates that game. Just saying.

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