NFLPA concerned about Cowboys, Broncos colluding on WR contracts

AP

Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant and Broncos receiver Demaryius Thomas are both free agents, but neither is really “free” because of the franchise tag. If one player signs a long-term contract, it could set the market and help the other in negotiations. And so it could be beneficial to both the Cowboys and the Broncos to make sure that neither team gives its franchise receiver a big-time deal.

But if the Cowboys and Broncos discussed such a deal, that would be collusion. And the NFL Players Association is investigating whether that happened: Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the NFLPA believes the Broncos and Cowboys had discussions about Bryant’s and Thomas’s contracts, in violation of the collective bargaining agreement. (PFT has confirmed that the NFLPA indeed has these suspicions.)

If there’s proof of collusion, Bryant and Thomas could sue for damages. But collusion can be hard to prove.

Bryant and Thomas have until Wednesday to reach long-term contracts. If they can’t, they can only play this season on the one-year, $12.8 million contract that comes with the franchise tag.

72 responses to “NFLPA concerned about Cowboys, Broncos colluding on WR contracts

  1. Yeah, good luck proving that.

    This is a last-minute negotiation ploy by some frustrated agents.

    No, fellas, you’re not getting a Calvin Johnson deal this time.

  2. The Broncos have a history of cheating and circumventing the salary cap. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

  3. As a Cowboys fan I hope they take them to the wood shed, cause Jerry and Stephen Jones are trying to cheat Dez out of his money, Jerry is screwing this thing up. Get the Damn man sign and move on to Superbowl 50.

  4. Schefter is turning into the Perez Hilton of NFL reporting circles. He rarely brings true facts anymore…..just gossip, innuendo salacious nonsense.

  5. The tag seems to be more hassle than its worth. I’m glad the team I follow rarely ever uses it.

  6. I doubt that can be proven. Maybe for 5 million they can get a ‘possibly generally aware of something that may or may not have happened’.

    As for Shefter, the guy has skills.
    We can discuss all day about his techniques and whether his methods are…unsound.
    But he does come up with some nuggets that usually have an element of truth to it.

  7. This is a legitimate concern by the NFLPA. The Broncos have been known to cheat and participate in shady business practices when it comes to contracts and paying players.

  8. b1gwin says:
    Jul 10, 2015 5:31 PM

    Schefter is turning into the Perez Hilton of NFL reporting circles. He rarely brings true facts anymore…..just gossip, innuendo salacious nonsense.

    _____________________________________

    Is that only when it’s stuff you don’t want to hear?

  9. It’s the Dolphins’ fault. That ludicrous contract they gave Mike Wallace really screwed up the landscape at the WR position. If a guy like Wallace is worth that, then Destroy and Thomas probably are worth Megatron money. Problem is, Wallace wasn’t worth that which unfortunately for them, the Dolphins soon found out.

  10. John Elway and Skeletor would definitely try something like this. They will never prove it but it’s more probable then not so that apparently means guilt so drop the hammer.

  11. Get Jones and Elway to turn over their phones as evidence and suspend them 4 games if they don’t. Don’t forget the 2 picks each and $1 million fine. Oh wait… That was because a bit of air came out of footballs. Nobody cares about tampering and collusion!!!

  12. “Will the Patriots lose more picks if the Cowboys and Broncos are found to have cheated?”

    It’s only considered cheating if it’s the Patriots who get caught doing it.

  13. It seems like the NFLPA should use the same lawyers as the MLBPA. I understand that there are major fundamental differences between the two games; a minor league system, the length of the average career, the way revenue is sourced and shared. But it seems every time baseball winds up in court the players win and every time the football winds up in court the owner win.

  14. You only get hit with a $100,000 fine even if you openly tamper with a star player on the SB winning champions – who in fact comes to your team! Of course they’ll collude, even if they get caught it’ll just be a league wide “warning” memo. I’ve seen elementary school clubhouses with a stronger rule of law.

  15. jelway skirting the rules? are we still awaiting comment from shannon sharpe?

  16. So the Cowboys and Broncos are cheating? More probable than not. Loss of a first round draft pick and a million dollars right? Oh wait. It’s not the Patriots. Sorry.

  17. Is this a surprise? The Broncos have cheated more than any team in NFL history. Greasing up uniforms, taping opposing practices, paying players under the table….it’s disgusting.

  18. It could just be that it`s hard to pay a WR that much money and still field a Championship caliber team.
    You can neutralize a great WR with double coverage.
    That still has value but not a million dollars a game worth.They deserve big time money but not Calvin Johnson money.Detroit had to let Suh go because of Calvins contract.It`s hard to win that way.Calvin had the leverage because of his first contract under the old CBA.Just because one team gets backed into a bad deal doesn`t mean you should do it too.There are too many good WR`s coming from college now days.
    Maybe both teams are just being smart individually?
    But if you collided with a provable paper trail to get caught you should get punished hard!

  19. Reggie wayne never got thoe kinds of deals. Honestly i wish there was no salary cap, and billionaire owners had to pay out of there own pockets.

  20. So the teams can use the tag “The Deflator” and say it’s the guy who is responsible trying to lower the WR Contract Money

  21. LOL @ all the Patriots cheaters rejoicing. What ever happened to “OMG there’s no evidence that we’re cheaters!! I won’t believe it until I see a picture of the Deflator with a needle in the footballs and a gauge that reads under 12.5!!! He was just a fat guy who stuck needles in himself to lose weight!!!” Hypocrites.

    Besides, the NFLPA hasn’t said there’s a violation, just that they are “investigating.” But whatever helps you sleep at night about Spygate, Deflategate, and taping opponent’s practices, cheaters.

  22. guachosporlife says:

    Just sign Dez Jones. It’s not like you don’t have the money.
    ==================================

    There’s a little thing called the salary cap. How much money Jones personally has is irrelevant.

  23. I think the footballs in the mile high city should be checked for atmospheric pressure differences; if there is differential, collusion on Dallas and Denver, if not, collusion on Bryant and Thomas. More probable than not. -Ted Wells

  24. LOL, If the NFLPA had ANY evidence they’d be in court – three moths ago.

    I love fans idea of how ‘negotiations’ should occur

    Jerry, “How much do you want Dez and how should it be paid?”

    Dez “I want $250 million and 100 mil should be guaranteed.

    Jerry, “okay, let me write you a check.”

  25. stealthjunk says:
    Jul 10, 2015 6:22 PM

    LOL @ all the Patriots cheaters rejoicing. What ever happened to “OMG there’s no evidence that we’re cheaters!! I won’t believe it until I see a picture of the Deflator with a needle in the footballs and a gauge that reads under 12.5!!! He was just a fat guy who stuck needles in himself to lose weight!!!” Hypocrites.

    Besides, the NFLPA hasn’t said there’s a violation, just that they are “investigating.” But whatever helps you sleep at night about Spygate, Deflategate, and taping opponent’s practices, cheaters.
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    You are so off base with this it is not even worth trying to educate you. You will clearly believe what you want to believe in spite of all the evidence brought to light since the joke called the Wells report. Spygate happened. None of the other stuff happened.

  26. Why is it not collusion when an agent goes into negotiations and uses the contract of one of his other players as an example of the one he is currently negotiating?

  27. Turn over your cell phones and see if the word collude or franchise tag is in any text for the past 2 years. If so suspension for life Seems reasonable

  28. Well, Patriot Haters made this really simple.

    Owners and GMs have to turn over all the personal communication devices and prove they didn’t collude or they are guilty.

  29. (open sarcasm font) The Broncos, cheating? No, no, that NEVER happens! (close sarcasm font)

    And of course it’ll either be swept under the rug or at most result in a slap on the wrist. Kinda sad that the Donkos are now not only out to screw other teams, they’re out to screw their own players….

    The most just punishment in this case for both teams? Thomas and Bryant are immediately awarded UFA status. That’ll teach ’em! Eh, probably not….

  30. So, because two players have thier sights set on contracts that recalibrate the edges of the galaxy, their employers must be coluding because they disagree that the expense justifies the value? Agent PR crap…

  31. Of course, the NFL should pay 5 million dollars for another Wells investigation. Frankly, I think that is the only way little old Teddy might get some work again. It’s never good for business to have your report dismissed by science organizations due to errors you’d expect from a 10th grade physics student.

    Although, I do feel that Wells was told to make the crime fit, he should have more integrity than that, but alas, money talks.

    There is no reason for the NFL to not ask for the teams to handover their call and communication. Even if there was a call from John to Jerry, no doubt they would say it was because they were both watching the 30 for 30 Elway to Marino.

    I don’t think that they Broncos and Cowboys are necessarily colluding. That Megatron contract is insane and neither Dez nor DT have the skill set or resume to command that money.

  32. Another attack on the integrity of the NFL. Collusion has gone on forever and the refs never measured PSI so move on. If this was the Patriot’s there would be hundreds upon hundreds of comments from the hypocrites out there.

  33. stealthjunk says:
    Jul 10, 2015 6:22 PM

    LOL @ all the Patriots cheaters rejoicing. What ever happened to “OMG there’s no evidence that we’re cheaters!! I won’t believe it until I see a picture of the Deflator with a needle in the footballs and a gauge that reads under 12.5!!! He was just a fat guy who stuck needles in himself to lose weight!!!” Hypocrites.

    Besides, the NFLPA hasn’t said there’s a violation, just that they are “investigating.” But whatever helps you sleep at night about Spygate, Deflategate, and taping opponent’s practices, cheaters.
    _________________________________
    The Broncos cheated on the cap, put vaseline on their jerseys and Mike Shanahan hired lip readers to steal opponents signals. Attack the Patriots if that is what help you sleep better at night Mr. integrity.

  34. Why don’t the Broncos just pay Demaryius Thomas under the table to avoid the salary cap?

  35. John Mara has his fingerprints all over this. Much like a few years ago when the Cowboys were penalized against the cap for doing the same thing all other teams did in the uncapped year, this trumped up charge is something every team does. But Hardy had his suspension reduced today, so of course we need a negative story to balance things out. Surprised the most mediocre franchise guy hasn’t chimed in yet.

  36. patsrule59 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 5:50 PM
    “Will the Patriots lose more picks if the Cowboys and Broncos are found to have cheated?”

    It’s only considered cheating if it’s the Patriots who get caught doing it.

    ****
    So, the Broncos and 49ers weren’t punished for circumventing the salary cap? The Browns for calling in plays? The Falcons for piping in crowd noise?

    No, it’s just that Patriot fans are the only ones who endlessly whine about their team being punished…. for anything. But hey, I’m sure Sean Payton is shedding a bunch of tears for you clowns.

  37. patsstinkoftaint says:
    Jul 10, 2015 8:54 PM

    patsrule59 says:
    Jul 10, 2015 5:50 PM
    “Will the Patriots lose more picks if the Cowboys and Broncos are found to have cheated?”

    It’s only considered cheating if it’s the Patriots who get caught doing it.

    ****
    So, the Broncos and 49ers weren’t punished for circumventing the salary cap? The Browns for calling in plays? The Falcons for piping in crowd noise?

    No, it’s just that Patriot fans are the only ones who endlessly whine about their team being punished…. for anything. But hey, I’m sure Sean Payton is shedding a bunch of tears for you clowns.
    __________________________________
    Why are you a Patriot hating troll? Based on the way you act and post on any article here, the Patriot’s are the only team to have ever cheated in NFL history. In a pathetic way, you are not the only on PFT that feels that way. How bad did the Patriot’s beat your team to make you feel so hurt patsstink!

  38. Peyton Manning is clearly behind all of this. Manning’s history of cheating goes a long way back. From piping in crowd noise to turning up the heat in the dome when the other teams entire roster is sick with the flu. Manning needs to be suspended for 1 year and the Broncos should lose their first round pick for the next 5 years. Peyton is now officially the biggest cheater in sports history.

  39. Patriot hating Trolls vs. Patriot sympathizing Trolls = boring. This post – and countless others has nothing to do with with your Red Handed Team.

    #saveit #nobannertillbradyisfreeisfinebyliterallyeveryotherfanbase

  40. One for the thumb says:
    Jul 10, 2015 6:42 PM
    Well, Patriot Haters made this really simple.

    Owners and GMs have to turn over all the personal communication devices and prove they didn’t collude or they are guilty.

    ———————————-

    This sounds good to me… real good. Turn over all communications, or prepare to be fined heavily, lose first round picks next year, and be suspended for at least one fourth of next season. Especially you, Mr. Elway. Turn over your phones or you are guilty.

  41. Oh. You mean like the collusion Labron James, Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh of the NBA did when they all signed with the Heat?

  42. Collusion is all over the place in the NFL. Here is a couple of examples the mainstream NFL media hasn’t discussed.

    #1. These recent surveys the NFL put out to the “St.Louis” Rams fans and season ticket holders. It was suppose to be a survey to gauge interest in the team, the team staying in St.Louis, how much people would pay for PSL’s for a new stadium, etc.. But did anyone report that it was Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones company that was paid to do these surveys. And that many of these surveys went to Los Angeles and Southern California fans? And that Jerry Jones has been outspoken about wanting Rams ower Stan Kroenke to move the Rams to Los Angeles?

    #2. Stan Kroenke’s company is the one that built Jerry Jones’ “AT&T Stadium”

    #3. Jerry Jones is one of top level owners on the L.A. committee

    #4. Dez Bryant “allegedly” hit and kidnapped a woman in a Wal Mart parking lot in 2011. But security video of this mysteriously disappeared. Stan Kroenke’s wife is a Granddaughter of Sam Walton, founder of Wal Mart. And is a high ranking executive with the company still to this day. So you don’t think maybe a call was made from the top to destroy such video?

  43. yet they had no concerns in the uncapped year when Dallas and Washington were the only teams that did NOT collude

    anyhoo, Bryant will get his deal. Thomas hasn’t proven anything yet.

  44. every story we have to put up with a bunch of crying patriot fans bitching about a well deserved punishment for their cheating quarterback.
    we get it. you will never believe it. say it aint so joe!
    but you need to get over it. we will never change our minds about what little tommy did. trolling every story as if its an injustice to your tainted franchise will not change the facts. you might as well save your energy for the next time they get caught cheating. you know it will happen.

  45. dear Patriots fans, just because your team is proven,repeated cheaters does not mean you need to stick your asterisks up in every thread with your whining. K? THnx

  46. patriotdynasty5 says:
    Jul 11, 2015 1:40 AM
    Peyton Manning is clearly behind all of this. Manning’s history of cheating goes a long way back. From piping in crowd noise to turning up the heat in the dome when the other teams entire roster is sick with the flu. Manning needs to be suspended for 1 year and the Broncos should lose their first round pick for the next 5 years. Peyton is now officially the biggest cheater in sports history.

    ————–

    As a Patriots fan, I want Peyton QBing the Broncos next season when they play the Pats.

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