Greg Hardy didn’t testify at his hearing

AP

Apart from the question of whether the NFL applied the new Personal Conduct Policy retroactively to Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy is the question of whether he violated the policy. At his hearing in May, the NFL Players Association attacked the quality of the evidence that resulted in the the conclusion that multiple violations occurred — but Hardy himself didn’t testify.

Page 9 of the 12-page ruling from arbitrator Harold Henderson, a copy of which PFT has obtained, states that “Hardy was present for the entire appeal hearing but declined to testify.”

Hardy’s decision to say nothing says plenty. If he’s innocent, he should have made his case directly to Henderson. But that would have exposed Hardy to cross-examination from the NFL. Which quite possibly would have made things worse than Hardy not testifying at all.

Henderson also notes that Lisa Friel, the principal author of a 92-page investigation report that led to Hardy’s 10-game suspension, “was present during the appeal hearing but was not called to testify about the details of the investigation she headed.”

The decision of Hardy’s representatives neither to let Hardy tell his story nor to grill Friel about an investigation they deemed flawed has no relevance to the question of whether the NFL applied a new policy retroactively to Hardy. But it likely will keep any objective observers from concluding that Hardy didn’t violate the policy by assaulting his ex-girlfriend in May 2014.

The decision not to have Hardy or Friel testify operates as a practical matter as a concession that a violation occurred. The only question at this point is whether he’ll miss four games without pay because of it, or whether Hardy will successfully sue for a reduction to two games, the standard penalty for a first-offense domestic violence offense before the Ray Rice case forced the NFL to dramatically alter the rules.

39 responses to “Greg Hardy didn’t testify at his hearing

  1. If he was quiet it’s because his lawyer told him to be; which lawyers say to clients regardless of innocence or guilt. So right now you’re simply casting your opinion as a misguided presumption on us the readers under a distorted basic understanding of how trials work.

  2. He didn’t testify because he didn’t need to. Deal was already done. Speaking could only have harmed Hardy’s chances.
    It’s an absolute joke – the deals that get done behind the scenes. I’m looking forward to the end of the Goodell era. How much did Jerry have to pay the offshore account to get the 10 games reduced to only 4?

  3. I for one am disappointed with the hearing results. This guy is the scumbag of the league. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to these penaltys and seems to be more about the teams and principles involved. All threats and possibility of further action seems to come into play instead of ruling on the issue at hand. For me KARMA will take care of this guy.

  4. Not having the League’s lead investigator testify is astonishing. Without Ms.Friel’s testimony,what other evidence was there? In addition isn’t it required, in the spirit of “cooperation”, that the Defendant tell his side of the story? Since his criminal case has already been disposed of, does he have the right to remain silent at his administrative hearing? If PFT has a copy of the ruling why not give us a peak how Henderson came to his decision?
    These hearings give new meaning to the term “Kangaroo Court”!

  5. “If he’s innocent, he should have made his case directly to Henderson.”
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    That’s not fair at all. What Hardy did was follow his attorney’s advice, which is within the the NFL regulations. It’s the equivalent of a person on trial pleading the 5th. It’s legal and doesn’t mean the person is guilty. It’s a widely used strategy.

    The legal system has played out and he wasn’t convicted. It’s kinda crazy to be found not guilty in court, but guilty in the court of public opinion and the NFL.

  6. Shut up its four games and will likely be knocked down to two or none get over it. He didn’t beat her it was a physical altercation the original judge dropped it from a felony to a misdemeanor without hearing testimony from either side. He called 911 while she was attacking him so a man restrains a woman and he’s a woman beater what Ray rice did was far worse as he actually knocked his girl out. Hardys girl was attacking him either way this ain’t church this is football his charges were dropped anyway quit crying and get over it

  7. I love this ……

    Greg Hardy gets a 4 game suspension for multiple incidents of domestic violence and possessing weapons, and Tom Brady gets the same 4 games because some footballs deflated a little bit because of the weather.

    Welcome to Roger Gooddell’s NFL.

  8. Hardy’s case is really difficult to figure out. Think about it, there is no video evidence. There is a 911 call, but parts of it sounds as if Hardy is the one who was being attacked. Then the whole court thing where the supposed “victim” doesn’t even show up..because she took a money settlement. If you felt traumatized, why did she take the money ? Other situations, Ray Rice, there is video evidence. Yeah, there are pictures in Hardy’s case, but it doesn’t tell the whole story. Peterson admitted guilt. Ray Mcdonald keeps repeating himself with stupid things. So, Hardy’s case is more difficult to determine, which makes more sense not to testify since the NFL could twist his words to make sound worse than it was.

  9. “Hardy’s decision to say nothing says plenty. If he’s innocent, he should have made his case directly to Henderson.”

    I see why you stopped practicing law.

  10. Premeditated, orchestrated cheating by a team should be punished more severely by the NFL than domestic violence. The latter is better handled by the courts while NFL teams aren’t allowed to sue each other per league rules.

  11. Last time I checked, Hardy was found Not Guilty in the eyes of The Law.

    Say what you want about technicalities, paying witnesses and whatever. He is still Not Guilty.

    No crime was committed in the eyes of The Law.

  12. @paulsmith107

    How about we do a reenactment. I’ll play Hardy, you play the ex girlfriend. Let’s see if your thoughts change after our exchange.

  13. qdog112 says:
    Jul 11, 2015 7:23 AM
    “If he’s innocent, he should have made his case directly to Henderson.”
    ******************
    That’s not fair at all. What Hardy did was follow his attorney’s advice, which is within the the NFL regulations. It’s the equivalent of a person on trial pleading the 5th. It’s legal and doesn’t mean the person is guilty. It’s a widely used strategy.

    The legal system has played out and he wasn’t convicted. It’s kinda crazy to be found not guilty in court, but guilty in the court of public opinion and the NFL.

    ————

    I hear you brother.

    Sign,
    OJ Simpson

  14. Gary Tanguay- Comcast Sports Net

    WHAT A DISGRACE !!!!!!!

    I’m going to throw up in my mouth. I am so ashamed to be a fan of the National Football League.

    Greg Hardy — a despicable human being — just had his 10-game suspension, for beating a woman, reduced to four on appeal.

    Yes, four games. Just like Tom Brady received for allegedly ordering that air be released from footballs. (I’ll get to Brady in a minute.)

    In the name of humanity, how can the NFL reduce — by more than half! — the suspension of a man who, according to police reports, slammed his ex-girlfriend on pile of automatic weapons that were spread across a bed? The only reason he avoided jail time was because the victim didn’t show up in court.

    Hardy should be locked up, along with Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson, but, due to the legal system, they’re not. At the very least, they should not be allowed to play in the NFL. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is a complete scum-bag for giving Hardy a job. The same can be said for Vikings owner Ziggy Wilf with Peterson. My word, is there no decency in the world?

    Now, to Brady. One would think his suspension will be reduced to at least two games based on the Hardy decision. But two games? In other words, pounding on a woman is only twice as bad as (allegedly) letting some air out of the footballs?

    No.

    Based on this decision, BRADY’S suspension should be reduced to ZERO. If not, it means Roger Goodell feels physical assaulting a woman is the same as low PSI.

    This is a bad day for the NFL. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but actions like this will be the demise of this league.

    WOW !!!!!!!!

  15. lemmetalkwouldya says:

    I love this ……

    Greg Hardy gets a 4 game suspension for multiple incidents of domestic violence and possessing weapons, and Tom Brady gets the same 4 games because some footballs deflated a little bit because of the weather.
    ====================================

    Deflated a little bit because of the weather haha okay. And The Deflator was called The Deflator because he was fat. Brady cheated and even Belichick didn’t believe him.

  16. This just shows that if the NFL wants to nail it to you then they will.

    1) greg hardy doesn’t have to say a word in the appeal despite the fact that his case was thrown out because the abused didn’t want to testify (which is a main problem with domestic abuse cases where the woman feels she’ll get beaten again if she testifies)

    2) IF Tom brady doesn’t have a good answer to ALL the questions about a rigged and flawed report AND doesn’t turn over his cell phone. Then he’s guilty.

    SMH.

  17. So who cooperated more with the investigation ? Hardy or Brady?

    Who testified under oath at his appeal? Hardy or Brady?

    Where are all the people who demand Brady give up his cell phone and admit he cheated?

    And the NFL wants to say part of the suspension is for obstruction?

    I’ve said it before I’ll say it again: What a Joke!!!!

  18. Did his victim testify?

    I love people saying “he wasn’t found guilty”.

    1. Yes he was. He chose to use an option to change to jury trial. Then he paid off the victim who would have had to re-testify and go through it all again.

    2. Seriously, did you read what he did? If you’re a father, you should be VERY ashamed. If your daughter was the victim here, “Well not guilty, so I guess he’s cool..”

    Seriously, some of you are HORRIBLE people who we could do without in the gene pool.

  19. offensivegestures says:
    Jul 11, 2015 8:52 AM
    If you think (or even believe) what he did to his girlfriend was bad, wait until you see what he does to Eli!

    ________________________

    Wow. You are horrible person.

    Woman gets beat to hell is funny to you apparently. Joking about it sure gives off that impression.

    So Mr. Who Finds Assault of a Woman Hilarious, what will he do to Eli?

  20. kd75 says:
    Jul 11, 2015 8:32 AM
    Last time I checked, Hardy was found Not Guilty in the eyes of The Law.

    Say what you want about technicalities, paying witnesses and whatever. He is still Not Guilty.

    No crime was committed in the eyes of The Law.

    ____________________________

    Would your employer say this about you if you did what Hardy did?

    Are you a father? Brother? Son?

    You have no soul. Horrible. Just horrible. HE BEAT THE HELL OUT OF A WOMAN, stop DEFENDING that.

    Really. My gosh you have no soul at all, no morals,.

    Nobody with a soul or morals can honestly say he committed no crime nor was convicted. Plus, HE WAS CONVICTED moron. Judge found him GUILTY!

    You are one of the worst people I’ve come across recently. You make me sick.

  21. suncawy says:
    Jul 11, 2015 8:26 AM

    “but parts of it sounds as if Hardy is the one who was being attacked.”

    —————————

    Wow. You are incredibly stupid. Did you read her testimony? Have you ever known a victim of domestic violence? She had to relive the experience the FIRST trial that he was CONVICTED for, then when going through the second she would have had to relive it all again.

    Her physical injuries blow your idiotic theory well out of the water. They make you look like a piece of …. person, and make you sound like a domestic violence defender. What am I saying, make you sound, THATS exactly what you are.

    I hope you don’t have a daughter, sister, or a female you love. Because you’ve just sold them out in the worst way.

    Seriously, you should really be ashamed.

  22. I don’t get people defending him. Oh wait, yes I do. There are a bunch of pieces of crap with inferior egos who find beating women makes them feel good.

    They are out in force today.

    Those guys who are the weakest pieces of crap. Those guys don’t fight men, they fight women because they mentally are extremely cowardly and just pieces of crap.

    If you’re defending Hardy, I immediately lump you in with women beaters and dismiss your opinion as that of a true coward. So just go to your he-man woman beaters club and talk to them.

  23. Oh and thumbing down comments telling the women beater defenders makes you one of them.

    Pieces of crap. Just the worst humans around.

    Makes me sick. Soulless cowards who think behind the anonymity of the internet makes them tough.

    Losers.

  24. All the law-breaking players aside, I am completely dumbfounded by the actions of the NFL when it comes to discipline. How can rich, successful and (supposedly) educated people continue to make fools out of themselves with this dart board approach to player discipline??? How difficult can it be to have a set discipline policy in place? The appeal process has become a joke unto itself, every player (and their lawyers) knows that just the threat of appeal will often result in a players original discipline being drastically reduced. Some offenders are required to testify or produce evidence but others are not, rules are implemented that are retroactively applied, misdemeanors can/are dealt with more harshly than felonies, etc. etc. The NFL tries to give the impression that employees (puppets) like Henderson/Vincent etc.
    have autocratic authority when the world knows that nothing is done in the NFL without Goodell’s input and approval. How do the majority of owners allow a handful of owners (Kraft, Bowlen, Jones to name a few) to have the Commissioner’s ear when it comes to implementing discipline? I think Vince McMahon could do a better job of “orchestrating” the NFL than Goodell and his cronies are. The NFL needs another Pete Rozelle.

  25. I’m not at all saying that this is actually the reality, but let’s play devil’s advocate for a moment and assume that Hardy’s physical actions, whatever they were, were truly minor and justifiable (say, some kind of self defense that was MUCH more reasonable than the reaction of that Florida QB in the recently released video). So something physical occurred but the “truth” is that it was “justified” (again, I don’t think this is true, I’m just presenting the logic that is possible, but not probable).

    By not testifying or arguing against his guilt, all Hardy is really doing is the rough equivalent of an Alford Plea. He’s acknowledging that the collection of evidence would be enough to SHOW guilt, whether true or not, and so isn’t choosing to fight it. Unlikely as his innocence would be, his choosing to not fight the claim that he physically assaulted his girlfriend does not by default make him guilty. The burden of proof for his being guilty as a huge, muscled, athletic male (to say nothing of potential racial bias) is as low as it gets for this type of act, and this act already has a fairly low burden of proof (given that there truly often is fire where there is smoke when there are signs of physical abuse).

    So, to put it simply, even if it were possible that Hardy is innocent, it would take very little for him to be judged as “guilty” of improperly laying his hands on this woman, and even as an innocent there would likely be nothing he could do. I invite everyone to judge Hardy’s guilt on the facts of the case and on certain financial actions he has taken, but choosing not to fight his “guilt” is not one that should be used for that purpose.

  26. Some of these comments are just plain ignorant.

    Last time I checked the 2nd amendment is still in effect. Mr. Hardy was licensed to carry every single weapon he was in possession of. It’s neither here nor there that he was in possession of fire arms.

    And you all are going to believe a woman who was high on cocaine said that Mr. Hardy was going to kill her. To me the only thing Mr. Hardy needs to clean up is his associations with these kind of women. They are trash. They are looking to be taken care off. Get knocked up and trap a young millionaire for his money and fame.

    As far as this hearing goes. He didn’t have to say anything because last time I checked he has the right to remain silent and anything he does say could and would be used against him. From this hearing’s perspective the criminal court made their decision, the NFL does not have a leg to stand on to execute any type of excessive punishment because the criminal chose not to pursue the case, end of story. There are no secondary measures about this. There is nothing more to talk about. The law is the law. And the NFL is executing employee policies that are far above the law. Far above what any other employee policy handbook states for a company based in the US.

  27. I really can’t stand the self righteous social justice warriors that have decided the NFL needs to be a group of Sunday school teachers.

    NFL needs to worry about football and the law worry about outside legal issues. All this you got accused you should lose your job SJW mob justice is total crap.

  28. What a bunch of tough guys here on this site..it’s ok to beat and intimidate a woman..threaten to kill her, throw her down…and this is ok because, because why?….Brady may have some sort of knowledge that footballs may or may not have been tampered with(by the way the deflator comment was made ONCE in MAY of 2014, lots if games played in May, by an unpaid game day employee) Both 4 games!…Think about that…but thinking is something most are incapable of doing before posting.

  29. I would not how allowed my client to testify. That is basic law. However getting a chance to cross and not taking advantage is
    puzzling. Questioning who the investigator spoke to. What evidence they reviewed …are all used to set up for the next hearing often the appeal.This is a proper way to defend your client.
    Why lock your client in is the thought. Poke holes in the other sides
    Arguememt or investigation etc.
    People always yell ” kangaroo court ” ” hang em ” ” give him life”
    but when it is a friend or a family member …. ” cut him a break”
    ” there are two sides to the story ” .
    I believe Hardy is going to lose close to a million a game or somewhere
    around 3-4 and miss 20’games. Hopefully he accepts counseling as well .

  30. Maybe he didn’t speak because he and the victim have a civil court agreement and neither one can speak about it. Isn’t that one of the reasons the DA’s had to drop it? He heard that they had an agreement and that was the reason she refused to make herself available?

  31. abninf says:

    Deflated a little bit because of the weather haha okay. And The Deflator was called The Deflator because he was fat. Brady cheated and even Belichick didn’t believe him.
    ———————————————————
    Actually, genius, it has already been scientifically proven – by the NFL’s own Wells Report, and the Ideal Gas Theory – that the balls WERE deflated to exactly what the weather conditions would have done to them.

    But don’t let the Laws of Physics get in the way of your little witch hunt.

    By the way, can you show us exactly where Bill Belichick said he didn’t believe Brady????

    Yeah, didn’t think so.

  32. Hardy is innocent because he didn’t have anybody associated with him that had a nickname that would prove he is absolutely guilty in the court of public opinion. Ted Wells would not have any evidence to convict Hardy based on what most clueless people here want to believe is conclusive evidence. Think about it and click on my name

  33. “Greg Hardy gets a 4 game suspension for multiple incidents of domestic violence and possessing weapons”

    Care to tell us what those multiple counts were? I’ll tell you. The NFL took each alleged strike are action by Hardy as a single incident. That’s hot they came up with multiple incidents.

    If you got in a fight with a guy, and through camera or testimony they found you actual hit the guy 5 times – should that be five counts of assault against you, each one carrying 5 to 10 years? It was one event.

  34. Love how the Pats fans draw a comparison with the Hardy suspension and the looming one for Brady – woman abuser vs deflator. Tom though is more than a deflator. His actions go toward the integrity of the game, Hardy’s did not. After all that is what the NFL is all about – the game, not what happens outside of it.

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