NFL, Bills have to be aggressive in disciplining Aaron Kromer

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At a time when the NFL has become more aggressive than ever in disciplining players for off-field conduct, all players (and plenty of others) will be watching what the NFL does with Bills offensive line coach Aaron Kromer, who is accused of punching a minor in the face during a beach-chair dispute and then threatening to kill the boy’s family if he told police about it.

The allegations are more than enough to justify an immediate investigation by the NFL. If Kromer eventually faces formal charges, he needs to be placed on paid leave by the league — and possibly fired for cause by the Bills, which would cut off his right to ongoing payments. Even without formal charges, the NFL has shown through, for example, the Greg Hardy case a willingness to disregard the ultimate outcome of the criminal justice system and to dispense its own brand of more-likely-than-not punishment.

And when it comes time to discipline Kromer, the NFL can be as aggressive as it wants to be, without fear of the NFLPA or any other union fighting the final outcome. Since coaches don’t have a union, coaches have no real rights, with the Commissioner serving as the ultimate arbitrator.

Meanwhile, the Bills must move quickly to find someone to replace Kromer, either temporarily or permanently. Kurt Anderson works as the assistant offensive line coach, but it’s unknown whether the Bills deem one of the holdovers from the Doug Marrone regime ready for the next step. Absent immediate and complete exoneration, the Bills will need another offensive line coach very soon. As in by July 30 at the latest, the day the players report for training camp.

With final plans for the launch of camp undoubtedly ongoing, the Bills will need a new offensive line coach a lot sooner than that.

116 responses to “NFL, Bills have to be aggressive in disciplining Aaron Kromer

  1. The NFL doesn’t need to investigate. Just suspend him and if he convicted then fire him. That’s it. Everything doesn’t have to be an NFL investigation.

  2. He confronted thieves who stole his property.

    If they were fishing they probably had knives on them.

    I am sure he did not stop to check their ID. My 14 year old kid is the size of a mid size man. And can easily pass for an 18 year old.

    Let’s not forget that this man was dealing with thieves in the middle of the night.

  3. He will probably just get a warning from the NFL front office. I mean, it’s not like he was probably generally aware that air may have been taken out of some footballs (by what has been proven to be mother nature and not the act of any person).
    Now THAT is a real crime and all others pale in comparison.

  4. This Inernet lynch mob mentality needs to stop. It’s way out of hand at this point. Calling for heads with only a handful of facts from one side? And that is not unique to this or even the previous situation like it. #youshouldallbeproud

  5. As if the NFL needs to be encouraged to be “aggressive” in discipline. As long as it’s not an owner, the NFL will now over-punish, whether there is proof or not, to the fullest extent of what the PR department at NFL headquarters thinks they can do.

  6. you jump to conclusions you often show yourself to be a fool.

    The head line is certainly troubling/ horrific; but if the ‘kid’ is 16 and called Kromer a small female dog and kicked sand in his little girls face than i’d have to side with Kromer punching him in the grill……but that is me.

  7. How about we get the real facts of the case!

    Plus had he been at the bench with his teenager daughter, and these same boys were cat calling, we ALL would be way to go Dad.

    He probaly did lose his cool, with his son there, and went over the top.

    Having said all that why RISK a high paying job over beach chairs…..

    I know they stole, but still you HAVE everything to lose not them be smart.

  8. If he caught thieves stealing his property, and was forced to defend himself against human beings as big as he is, regardless of age, then he shouldn’t be receiving anything other than a medal from the Bills and their surrounding communities.

  9. assaulting a minor aside, threatening to murder their whole family if they go to the police is a felony…

    being fired is the least of his problems at this point…

  10. lenbias34pt says:
    Jul 12, 2015 12:46 PM
    you jump to conclusions you often show yourself to be a fool.

    The head line is certainly troubling/ horrific; but if the ‘kid’ is 16 and called Kromer a small female dog and kicked sand in his little girls face than i’d have to side with Kromer punching him in the grill……but that is me.

    I agree you protect your family. I would of done the same thing. But telling a 16 year old if you say anything to the police or anyone else I will KILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY! Thats a way beyond the limits!

  11. …If Kromer eventually faces formal charges, he needs to be placed on paid leave by the league — and possibly fired for cause by the Bills, which would cut off his right to ongoing payments….

    I guess that means that his contract somehow protects him (e.g. he gets paid the full value off the contract) from being fired immediately for being an embarrassment to the Bills and Buffalo in general?

    If so, that is a shame.

  12. Threaten to kill someone? Four game suspension, just like Greg Hardy.

    The NFL office has become a pathetic joke under Goodell.

  13. If he’s guilty of something irrational, fire him…if he was chasing a punk stealing his stuff, give him a medal…if it’s somewhere in between…let the courts figure it out…meanwhile lets not rush to judgement one way or the other…

  14. Mike I bet you thought you could lounge all day didn’t ya….thanks Aaron Kromer!

  15. I would be extremely surprised if he actually made a threat to ‘kill their family’. That sounds like something a young teenager would add to the story to embellish it.

  16. Funny that all the usual Buffalo Bills trolls aren’t filling this article with comments.

  17. Poor Kromer. Three articles already. Doesn’t he know not to pull something like this during the slowest NFL news time of the year?

  18. Florio, think back to the mistake you made by jumping on the deflategate bandwagon so quickly?

    You, being a lawyer, should understand that individuals in our great country are innocent until proven guilty.

    The headline, “NFL, Bills have to be aggressive in disciplining Aaron Kromer”, takes the position of a public relations person first and a rational observer second. Once the NFL is “aggressive” in response to an accusation they have a history of refusing to listen to reason because (as you keep saying about Goodell in deflategate) it would look bad to admit they over-reacted.

    Let’s let the authorities do their investigation first and give Kromer a chance to defend himself before subjecting him to the Spanish Inquisition.

  19. “Florio, think back to the mistake you made by jumping on the deflategate bandwagon so quickly?

    You, being a lawyer, should understand that individuals in our great country are innocent until proven guilty.”
    —————–

    What a load of crap.

  20. Turns out the little kid Kromer beat up on the beach was Johnny Manziel.

  21. In the age of men no authorities would’ve been called. In the age of men the father would’ve just gone back and tore this Kromer a new one. Of course, in the age of men, threats of killing a kid’s family wouldn’t be made or taken seriously.

    We are not in an age of men.

  22. If this guy coached for the Pats Herr Goodell would be looking for lifetime suspensions and loss of draft picks. But lucky for Kromer, he coaches for the pathetic Bills and a sincere apology should suffice.

  23. Were any of you there? Do you know what he actually said or did? Let’s see what the authorities discover first before you hang this guy out to dry. If he’s guilty he should be punished and will be. Good grief, let’s hear the whole story first before making a judgement.

  24. one can only surmise it’s all Bills fans calling for the internet Lynch mob mentality to stop.
    Preaching patience and a call for all of the facts to be heard prior to casting a judgment on someone/.

    What a freakin laughable turn of events.

    Where were they all during deflatesham? I didn’t see any of them rushing to defend Brady, even though the entire mess has PROVEN to be a sham.

    Nope, too late Bills fans. The dye has been cast for all 32 teams now. A whisper of an offense, and the Internet Lynch mob will convict and crucify your guy without mercy of facts.

    #getusedtoit
    #youwereallapartofit
    #stopwhiningnow

  25. Put on suspension while the investigation is pending. If it’s true fire him and hopefully he doesn’t get a penny. From what it sounds like it was a teenager being teenager and unless the kid was the aggressor and Kromer was defending his family or himself its enexcusible. Let’s see what the facts are I’m sure they will be out soon enough.

  26. the wheels on Rexy’s bus come off the axil,
    off the axil,
    off the axil,
    the wheels on Rexy’s bus come off the axil
    all, through the town

  27. I guess all it takes in this society to be convicted, or at the least, have a version of a story forever tied to your name, is simply to accuse somebody of wrongdoing.

    3 teenagers clearly in the wrong and with nothing to lose have their version documented, and the coaches’ life is permanently altered.

    I don’t believe most of this story already.

  28. Sounds like an ongoing neighbor dispute. Thought the media would get more facts. Who? What? Where? How? Has this happened before? Has the neighbor son been talked about it before? Did the son confront them and then get his dad? Is there bad blood between the families?

  29. What’s this have to do with Tom Brady being a cheater?

    Lets not lose our heads here. This is an offensive line coach. Not a franchise quarterback.

    Pretty simple. Thieves should be punched in the face. You don’t have the right to threaten their family though.

    Find someone else to fill in until facts emerge.

  30. Here comes the bills fans who think it’s perfectly okay to punch children in the face over doing some stupid crap like stealing lawn chairs when you can literally call the police and retrieve them and press charges on the children.

    The kids deserve punishment but, Kromer went too far and stooped to the level of the kids he punched.

  31. infectorman says:Jul 12, 2015 2:03 PM

    the wheels on Rexy’s bus come off the axil,
    off the axil,
    off the axil,
    the wheels on Rexy’s bus come off the axil
    all, through the town

    ____________________________

    What’s an axil?

  32. I would like to also add that this guy makes millions and he can’t go to Family Dollar or the Dollar Tree and get $10 lawn chairs? Psycho.

  33. The NFL Players and some coaches are destroyeng the league. We all have our teams we root for and argue back & forth but they are really at the stage where the players en the league and some coaches are a laugheng stock out of the whole league.
    Keyboard problems sorry for the mespelled words. Some keys won’t work.
    League beyond a joke now!!!

  34. “We are going to build a bully, and we’re gonna see if you want to play it for 60 minutes,” Ryan said.

  35. it’s real interesting seeing the comments on an article like this compared with the articles about Dalvin Cook and De’andre Johnson. I notice the prevalence of wanting to take a wait and see approach that I didn’t see in the case of Dalvin Cook…hmmmm, I wonder why? And Kromer is an old man compared with college aged kids

  36. So thieves say he punched them, and threatened to kill them.

    That’s enough for the NFL, never consider the source, allegations from people with questionable motives = NFL proof.

  37. The NFL wouldn’t be conducting an investigation; it would be conducting a public relations fiasco. Let the criminal justice system run its course.

  38. This loon needs to be fired sooner rather than later and I would say that is is a good bet that Kromer will be facing a civil suit in the near future. There is no need to pay someone for their lunatic behavior and the Bills are going to be hiring a new offensive line coach and soon.

  39. Culture of accountability starts from the top.

    Maybe Jace Amaro was on to something..

  40. Alright, first, I don’t know any facts other than what was reported, basically came from a Walton County Sheriff facebook post and was primarily the account of the boys involved. Now, if true, the dude needs to be fired and prosecuted for hitting a minor. Not defending this guy at all but my point is that it’s irresponsible for the police officer to post the account of what happened from only one side of the story. Nobody really knows what happened on that beach Saturday night/Sunday morning except those that were there. Again I’m not defending this guy, but I looked at the facebook post and they even went out of their way to include that he was a Buffalo Bills coach which has nothing to do with the incident. All I’m pointing out is that the cops shouldn’t be throwing one side of the story on facebook, why is it necessary to make it a public spectacle when in this 24-hour social media age everyone is quick to form opinions,regardless of facts and the Bills/ NFL would have found out anyway. It seems like the cops in this town conduct themselves like teenage girls instead of civil servants.

  41. Sorry rednecks and hillbillys, in civilization you dont get to punch anyone in the face, let a lone a kid, because they walked off with a dime store beach chair.

    Its called assault.

    Buy bye career.

  42. It l0oks like Richie I, has taught the coach the best way to handle the teenagers is to kick butt and take names, now the coach and Richie can now really bond, if he is still the coach, perhaps Rex can get Richie to be a coach/player. having said this, I wish we had Richie back in Miami. Bill

  43. We are inky hearing one side of the story. I was not there but did live on a semi private beach on Florida once. Each assoc has it’s own chairs, usually marked by your apt number. Punks come in the beach every night to steal chairs umbrellas and anything else that is not bolted down. They will lie out there rear ends to the police when caught. Seen it, witnessed it many times. Let’s get all the facts first. I imagine he is now on paid administrative leave. If the kids are charged with theft their story will do an about face to get the charges dropped. Happens everyday on the Florida beaches everyday

    My neighbor down there was uptight about stuff getting stolen. He patrolled the beach with a flashlight at night. When confronted these kids are not too nice with their answers. Not saying this is what happened because I was not there but chairs are stolen every night on the Florida beaches. Expensive chairs not cheap ones

  44. Don’t worry Kromer, you don’t work for the Pats, so you’re safe from the Jets mafia, aka NFL front office.

  45. I know I know I know! Kromer channeled his external Richie Incognito… I guess Rexy really was building a bully… A boy named Suh will take care of that one….

  46. Tom Cable just found his OC, if he ever gets another head coaching job.

  47. So your idea is that since there is nobody backing Kromer, the NFL should just punish him to the max now? Totally disagree. I believe in treating star athletes and celebrities just like you would any other person. There was a time -like up until 3 years ago – when the NFL swept all incidents like this and Ray Rice under the rug. Now that they got caught, they are behaving all holier than thou and punishing way too harshly.

    Here’s my idea – handle this just like you would if the guy who lives next door to you was involved in an incident like this. Investigate it and find out what happened and punish accordingly. if Kromer did punch a minor and threaten him if he reported it, then he deserves a suspension of like 8 games IMO.

    I do not support Kromer’s behavior, but I do not agree that every time a player or coach gets involved in a violent incident that he has lost his rights to his job forever.

  48. Look, what he did was probably wrong, but who wouldn’t want to pop a lippy teenager, let alone a lippy teen who took their stuff?

  49. ….and you all believe he threatened to kill the “little boy’s” family because the thief who stole and kicked sand in his daughters face said so? That kid deserves worse than a punch in the mouth. I have little patience with punks.

  50. Why? Because you’ve decided so? Get over yourself.

    I’m pretty sure you can use physical force to protect your personal property from someone attempting to steal it

    AND

    I’ve never heard of a teenager lying about his/her actions to avoid getting in trouble either…

  51. If he hit the kid, regardless of the reasons, he should just quit the Bills, and not make the NFL take actions. He could say something like, that he was in an altercationn, on the advice of his attorney, he will make no further comments and he has resigned from the team.

  52. Yeah they should be aggressive with a misdemeanor charge in a neighbor dispute (sarcasm).

  53. If it’s true, as the teens put it, then he deserves what he gets. However, people should allow all of the facts come out prior to judging. Kromer also has witnesses, the teens were not innocently fishing, & if the teens were caught doing something illegal (even if they were just beach chairs), what is to stop them from lying to police to keep themselves out of trouble? My point is… Let all the facts come out before judging.

  54. If they’re looking for someone to replace him in the interim, they can all Michael Sam. Then they have the first openly gay offensive line coach in the league…….you know, on their way to the Super Bowl……..

  55. The NFL brand of justice is the ultimate “Kangaroo Court”! It is the most dysfunctional, disjointed, downright dumb disciplinary body the world has ever known!

  56. No!!!!

    Kromer must be disciplined however his employer sees fit.

    Kromer is NOT represented by a union so he can be disciplined appropriately.

    If he was in a union, he would get away with even more.

  57. It is very odd that a lawyer (Florio) is ready to hang Kromer less than 24 hours after the arrest and without bothering to wait to hear his side of the story.

    Perhaps it would be fair (and constitutional) to wait to hear his side before we and the media convict the guy and take away his profession.

  58. Doing stuff simply for the sake of doing something is the NFL’s biggest problem. They need to wait until it becomes clear what happened before firing the guy.

    All that being said, the sheriff’s account makes it sound like Kromer went WAY off the deep end over some silly beach chairs that had been basically forgotten/abandoned by Kromer’s family. He’d better hope there’s a whole lot left out of the story or he’s toast.

  59. torot23 says:
    Jul 12, 2015 4:00 PM
    Why? Because you’ve decided so? Get over yourself.

    I’m pretty sure you can use physical force to protect your personal property from someone attempting to steal it

    Ok well you are obviously a pissed Bills fan because you cant possibly be this dumb. You cant punch someone in the face because they took your beach chair that was laying around. Its pretty common sense and if you still dont get it then im amazed you can even figure out how to post on this website….

  60. 30% of comments on PFT should be in the movie “Idiocracy”. Lets see how AK’s story unfolds, shall we. That includes you Mike Florio.

  61. Yeah right, Goodells already patted James Hardy on the back for beating his wife and reduced his sentence. He’s taking it way too easy on a guy who’s cheating his way into multiple Super Bowl wins “Tom Brady”. The NFL brass has absolutely no balls to hold players and coaches accountable for their actions. That’s the bottom-line

  62. The police are releasing more on Monday. But in today’s world, AK knows because of who he is, he is a target. And for allowing himself to be put in this position, he should resign.

  63. I seriously doubt any other team would have fired him by now. Not when the police say they have not finished their investigation.

  64. Listen up, you little spazoids. I know where you live and I’ve seen where you sleep. I swear to everything holy that your mothers will cry when they see what I’ve done to you.

    – Michelle from Tommy Boy

  65. The lynch mob internet is a sorry joke when opinions masked as judgments are ridiculous. Due process and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty are ideals we have been rapidly moving away from when concepts like civil society fade in the rearview mirror.

    And double-down on that in a sports blog when one of yours or one of theres is the overriding criteria.

  66. You talk about jumping to conclusions. Many of you call these kids punks and act like they broke into a residence and stole something of value. They were sitting in the chairs fishing for God’s sake. Kramer better hope the kid attacked him because if someone said earlier is true that he knew the kid was a minor and punched him he is toast.

  67. This should be a slap on the wrist….Relative to compromising the integrity of the game with multiple team employees involved in the execution and cover up of cheating the NFL game balls, who cares about beach chair fights?

  68. Hope whoever is in the wrong gets punished accordingly. Good luck with that,though.

  69. I just don’t buy it. Maybe he’s guilty, but I have realized my distrust for the media now trumps my dislike for other teams.

    Until I find out otherwise I’m going to assume the media is wrong or misrepresenting the story.

  70. “If this guy coached for the Pats Herr Goodell would be looking for lifetime suspensions and loss of draft picks.”

    If Herr Goodell didn’t have the evidence destroyed, BB would have been banned from the league in 2007.

    #TarnishedTrophies

  71. bullcharger says:
    Jul 12, 2015 12:40 PM
    The NFL doesn’t need to investigate. Just suspend him and if he convicted then fire him. That’s it. Everything doesn’t have to be an NFL investigation.
    ______________________
    Because teenagers never lie (especially teenagers who are thieves) so Kromer is automatically guilty. People like you who jump to conclusions are what is wrong with this country.

  72. I wouldn’t have hired Kromer in the 1st place. he already showed he was dumb when he anonymously criticized his qb in Chicago. When he was the qb coach.

  73. magnumpimustache says:
    Jul 12, 2015 12:41 PM

    Let’s not forget that this man was dealing with thieves in the middle of the night.
    =====
    To you and anyone else who uses this tired line. Unless you are in law enforcement, it isn’t your job or your right to deal with thieves on a dark beach. Seeking your own justice is vigilantism and it too is against the law.

    They may have been big bad kids. They may have had guns, knives – who knows. More the reason not to inject yourself into a situation you are not trained to handle.

  74. dmretrogames says:
    Jul 13, 2015 6:42 AM

    If Herr Goodell didn’t have the evidence destroyed, BB would have been banned from the league in 2007.
    =====
    In a forum where the majority of posters are asking to wait for facts on this case, you post this. So, do you have some facts here that the rest of the world was not made aware of, or are you just speculating? If you have facts, I would love to see them.

  75. I had to create an account just to address you dimwits suggesting “these punks deserved it” or, my favorite, “what happened to due process? He’s innocent until proven guilty”:

    On “these punks deserved it”:
    Are you kidding me? I don’t care if these kids were 17, looked 25 and were the size of last years’ Kentucky front court. Hell, I don’t care if they were actually grown men. You can’t punch someone in the face over “stealing” beach chairs. Have you been introduced to civil society? If not, let me provide you with an introduction. Here in American civil society, common law designates punching someone in the face over theft as battery. We, as a society, have decided that this transgression is serious enough to often warrant time in prison.

    On “what happened to due process”:
    Side note, I love when you internet trolls attack an attorney on legal concepts. Let me school you. We trace due process back to the Magna Carta. There is a Due Process Clause in both the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. See, back in the “good ol’ days” or, as one particularly ignorant commenter calls it “the age of men”, the government could strip away your rights and imprison you without overcoming a prescribed burden of proof. Because governments inherently have a desire to strip rights away from certain people who are innocent of a legal transgression, we decided it would be nice to require governments prove guilt.

    This does not apply to the private sphere(you, me, corporations, NGOs, etc.) Here in the private sphere, we are allowed to express and act on our opinions without meeting any burden of proof. If I’m accused of a horrible crime, let’s say child abuse, even if I’m not charged, my employer has the right to fire me. Should they let me tell my side of the story? Sure. But if my kid has a black eye and all signs point towards me striking my child, they do (and should) have every right to take action. In this case, Aaron has been charged which means the government has overcome probable cause.

    TL;DR
    In closing, become acquainted with civil society and read a damn book (or at least Wikipedia) before calling an attorney out on legal concepts.

  76. If Kromer, did what is alleged he needs to face the music. The Walton County DA, either needs to bring charges, dismiss it or present whatever evidence exists to a Grand Jury to determine whether the case should to proceed to trail. This is a legal matter and should be handled accordingly. In the meantime, he his on paid suspension, until it is resolved. None of us truly know the facts of this case so we should let the justice system do it’s job. I don’t think this case is a matter for an NFL investigation, because it has nothing to do with protecting the integrity of the game. If he is found guilty, then he should be fired and serve whatever sentence is imposed. After paying his debt to society, then should be allowed to seek reinstatement to the NFL, if he so chooses. LET’S GO BUFFALO!!!

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