Chiefs, Justin Houston talks remain up in the air

AP

For months, there has been no real progress between the Chiefs and franchise-tagged linebacker Justin Houston on a long-term deal. It that’s going to change, it’s going to change soon.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, nothing is currently happening between the Chiefs and Houston. It’s expected that talks will renew on Tuesday, at which time team and player will learn whether the two circles in the Venn diagram can find a way to kiss in advance of Wednesday’s pucker-or-get-off-the-pot deadline.

Because Houston has played only four seasons, total value is more important that usual, because he’s more likely than a 30-something player to cash every check. Guarantees also are a major factor, with signing bonus being even more important than fully-guaranteed payments because all full guarantees can be voided with as little as a one-game suspension.

Look for that to be a bigger and bigger issue in contract negotiations. The only real guarantee is money in the bank, and the signing bonus is the only way to do that.

29 responses to “Chiefs, Justin Houston talks remain up in the air

  1. Chiefs 11-5
    Top 6 defense
    AFC Champs
    Without Houston

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    12-4
    Top 4 defense
    AFC Champs
    Without Houston

    Andy Reid has built a dynasty team that will dominate with OR without Justin Houston. Dee Ford is ready to take his spot if needed.

    The offense will bust loose and be a top 5 unit this season as well.

    Personally, i hope the Chiefs trade him for a 1st and 2nd rounder

  2. @Iknowitall: Dee Ford has not shown he can take over for Houston. He was hardly on the field last year. The production would drop off drastically.

  3. Ya houston was out in the playoff collapse but so was j.charles b.flowers ,knile davis (who was having a monster game in relief for charles) and d. Avery who was having the best game of his chiefs career. Houstons absence was much less of a factor than any of the rest of the guys missing

  4. I am sure someone will correct me if i am wrong but after this year the Chiefs will have a ton of cap space. Sign Houston now, convert large amount into signing bonus to free up cap this year and maybe kick the tires on a nice free agent or two. There are a few guys that could contribute right away that are still available. So far i am a believer in Dorsey and Hunt, so i am hopefull they get this done. I mean what if they dont sign him this year and then he gets 25 sacks in 2015!? Then we have a bigger contract issue!

  5. Kansas City here is your chance. The Broncos are fading faster than a coal when it is dropped into ice water. San Diego always has a way of shooting themselves in the foot.

  6. ….I’m a mult-millionare….I did’nt get that way by giving away my millions to my employees……Ever sense the NEW deal took effect, the owners have beaten the older players over the head with it.

  7. Yes, the offense that didn’t have ONE WR score a TD last year “is going to explode.”

    LOL!

  8. @joetoronto:

    Well…they really only have one way to go…and that’s up. They couldn’t possibly be any more vanilla than they were last year. (Typical Andy Reid) So I guess compared to last year just about anything could be considered an explosion of sorts.

    ;o)

  9. Trade him to a team that has a legit chance. Free Houston!

    -The AZ Cardinals

  10. Man a lot of people are hating on the Chiefs, you know that means they are a contender and people are scared

  11. i agree. they are scared and they should be.everyone is too concerned with wr touchdowns and the last 20 years of Chiefs history. That is fine though, they will see.

  12. Chiefs lost six players to injury in the playoff game. With Houston out, they were still playing well. When Flowers got hurt, Colts started their comeback with no one left to cover TY Hilton. Flowers injury had the biggest impact of all.

  13. chiefs82 says:
    Jul 13, 2015 2:27 PM

    I am sure someone will correct me if i am wrong but after this year the Chiefs will have a ton of cap space.
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    Their top 51 will cost about 104M next year, not counting Houston’s eventual contract. That should be top 5 money, along with the Raiders, Buccaneers, and Bengals. Other teams that don’t spend money, by the way.

  14. mnelson52 says:
    Jul 13, 2015 7:27 PM

    Chiefs lost six players to injury in the playoff game. With Houston out, they were still playing well. When Flowers got hurt, Colts started their comeback with no one left to cover TY Hilton. Flowers injury had the biggest impact of all.
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    They let Flowers walk after that game. You can cry about injuries if you want, though.

  15. Iknowitall says:
    Jul 13, 2015 1:16 PM
    Chiefs 11-5
    Top 6 defense
    AFC Champs
    Without Houston

    **********************
    12-4
    Top 4 defense
    AFC Champs
    Without Houston

    Andy Reid has built a dynasty team that will dominate with OR without Justin Houston. Dee Ford is ready to take his spot if needed.

    The offense will bust loose and be a top 5 unit this season as well.

    Personally, i hope the Chiefs trade him for a 1st and 2nd rounder
    —————

    So the truth comes out – your hate for the Raiders makes a lot more sense now. And your poor grasp of basic math. You and jonathankrobinson (the SIC “mult-millionaire”) make a great team!

  16. “haleyistheman00 says:
    Jul 13, 2015 5:27 PM
    Man a lot of people are hating on the Chiefs, you know that means they are a contender and people are scared”

    No we just want to poach your best player, and some of us are even warm-hearted enough to hope you at least get something for your unhappy player. Hope you don’t repeat the B Albert mistake again. KC is not for everyone. Not for most people, actually. This includes millionaire superstar players who want a better media market, better chance at a ring, better weather, more attractive women, better night life, whatever. It ain’t rocket science. If a guy doesn’t really want to be there, you should seriously ask whether you want him there, or if you could trade your asset to obtain good players who would.

  17. I don’t get how signing Houston will propel the Chiefs to great heights. If I’m not mistaken, they managed to miss the playoffs in 2014 notwithstanding Houston’s 22 sacks.

  18. Houston wants a gauranteed 6 year contract, no owner is going to give anyone 6 year contracts anymore. He also wants Suh type of money, isn’t going to happen either. Miami is going to be wishing they didn’t have that big stone around their neck in about 3 years when Suh’s production is mediocre and he’s still making $20 million a year, that’s the same thing that could happen to the Chiefs if they give him 6 years. 2 more years of superstardom followed by 4 years of mediocrity.

  19. Mostlyright how did the Chiefs make a mistake with Albert? They drafted his replacement the year before he left that’s not a mistake. Also Houston has never said anything about wanting to leave KC. He wants money the Chiefs will eventually give it to him. I get KC isn’t big market but that doesn’t mean they aren’t a contender.

  20. I’ll be so happy when the Chiefs screw this up and lose their best player (again). He terrorized my boy Rivers last year, as I recall (I don’t seem to remember individual games as well as the rest of you do, but I believe I remember Houston destroying our awful OL). Once Houston is gone, maybe we can finally get a win or two against the Chiefs. The Chiefs have been our kryptonite the last few years and once Houston is gone, I think that ends instantly.

    We’ll obviously sweep the Raiders like we always do (19-4 against them in last 12 years). If Manning is breaking down, I think we can easily split with them. And finally, if Houston sits or leaves town, we easily split if not sweep the Chiefs. That gets us to 4-2 or 5-1 in division. Do not sleep on my Chargers.

    And then finally, just another reminder… The Chiefs literally haven’t won a playoff game since MC Hammer was a thing. 1991. Practically the 80’s. A year shy of 25 years. Before I was even in kindergarten. I was more into Saved by the Bell, Mickey Mouse and The Smurfs than football at that age, so I apologize for never actually witnessing any Chiefs playoff victories in my entire life.

    I have, however seen the Broncos cheat their way into 2 Super Bowls and have even seen the Raiders and Chargers attend a Super Bowl each. I remember my Chargers going 1-15, and then having the courage and foresight to avoid drafting Michael Vick and instead trading down to 4th overall and instead picking TCU’s spunky running back, by the name of Tomlinson and then dominating the division for about a decade. But where are the Chiefs? Sure, they sweep my Chargers all the time, and then they go and lose to a team like THE RAIDERS!?!?

    You guys need to get it together. Alex Smith (great guy out of Helix High in San Diego) can’t throw all the necessary routes to win and Jamaal Charles’ wheels will breakdown sooner than the team and players hopes… Happens all the time; ask Tomlinson. When he breaks down, it will be Houston and the rest of the DL that keeps you competitive.

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