Charles Haley to 49ers rookies: Act like the white guys

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Charles Haley had his ups and downs off the field during his playing career, but was able to handle them well enough to wind up in the Hall of Fame.

Haley is now trying to make sure current players avoid the downs and has counseled 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith to put his energy into football so he can avoid the issues that led him to be suspended for a large portion of last season. The 49ers asked Haley to deliver a similar message to their rookie class this offseason and Haley opted for “shock value” to reach players he says have the “attention span of a 5-year-old.”

“As far as the rookies, and I know they probably got mad, but I said, ‘Why don’t you all act like the white guys? You never see them in the paper getting high or hitting people. Why don’t you act like that?’ They all looked at me crazy,” Haley said, via the San Jose Mercury News.

49ers fullback Bruce Miller, who is white, was arrested following an incident with his fiancee this offseason and ultimately pleaded no contest to disturbing the peace, but Haley said that his main point was that young players need to find the right role models to follow early in their careers. He cited Ronnie Lott, Michael Carter and Joe Montana as some of the players that provided that direction for him and said the rookies need to “have people that stand for something” until they can do it for themselves.

Shock value will probably lose out to thankfulness when Haley takes the stage in Canton next month, but it might be worth tuning in to check out if that prediction is correct.

152 responses to “Charles Haley to 49ers rookies: Act like the white guys

  1. Just look at the NFL police blotter. Is Haley wrong. He’s trying to save people. Things like this are generalizations but there’s a ton of truth in what he’s saying. Listen to the message. Don’t criticize him for making a brash statement.

  2. “As far as the rookies, and I know they probably got mad, but I said, ‘Why don’t you all act like the white guys? You never see them in the paper getting high or hitting people. Why don’t you act like that?’ They all looked at me crazy,” Haley said, via the San Jose Mercury News.

    This is 2015, he’s not allowed to speak the truth.

  3. Even if it pissed the players off, if they remember what he said about finding the right mentor, then he did what he was asked to do.

  4. That 5-minute attention span thing is true, but its not a pro athlete or black thing – it’s a generation thing. Ask anyone who has to manage 21 yr olds today… its almost impossible to keep them on task for anything.

  5. People that take offense to a statement like this simply refuse to comprehend facts and reality. The most recent stats I could find from legitimate sites (US Census Bureau and FBI.gov) show that blacks populate roughly 13% of the US, yet commit roughly 39% of all violent crimes. I’m not racist…I’m a realist. Apparently Charles tends to operate similarly.

  6. If a white dude said it (Riley), he’s be a racist. But a black dude said it (Haley), so it’s no biggy.

    Unbelievable.

  7. Look at the blotter here – he’s exactly right. Probably a 20:1 ratio.

  8. If Haley was white this would probably be plastered all over your evening news channels.

    But he isn’t, so it likely wont be. Can anyone say double standard?

  9. “Act like the white guys” is the dumbest thing I’ve heard regarding race spoken by a black guy, since Deion Sanders said Johnny Manziel “has a little ghetto in him”.

    Yet Haley has his freedom of speech, but the media has the right, no the duty, not to print or repeat nonsense. Maybe he was just inarticulate or maybe he’s just naive. Either way, he’s wrong.

    He must know that there are white players who are arrested and many more who are given a pass, while their black counterparts are rarely given a break. In fact, many are arrested wrongly.

  10. nfl is a microcosm of society. White privilege exists and it exists in data, media and perception. Haley is uneducated.

  11. Haley’s not the brightest bulb in the room but its not really something a rookie wants to hear. It just promotes racism within the NFL. His story should be don’t follow my career with drugs, blowing money and fathering children all over the place.

  12. I think the most important part of the point he was trying to make was “find the right role models” – it’s not a white vs. black thing.

    It’s also important to understand that many (most? – I don’t know) black players in the NFL come from lower income areas where there is a lot of crime. The role models for them growing up are much harder to come by and the potential bad influences are many. This does not equate to “black people are more likely to commit crimes” (though they are much, much, much more likely to be treated like criminals by the police on a regular basis – and anyone who doesn’t believe that is delusional), it’s really a class issue. But we don’t talk about class in the US.

    I live in a pretty rural area with a mostly white population. The police blotter is filled with mostly white people committing the robberies, burglaries, violence, drug offenses, etc.

    So, any kid from a bad neighborhood who arrives in the NFL needs to learn to control his behavior, which doesn’t always happen, and it’s not just the black players (Aaron Hernandez, anyone?). I would also add that the vast majority of black players DON’T get into trouble.

  13. Bass plucker nailed it. It’s this generation of kids. Self-absorbed, can’t stay off their smartphones, everything is gauged by likes on Instagram and whatever other flavor of the month app is. Pray for the USA. Good chance this is the generation that sticks a fork in us.

  14. sconnyslovethemsomecousins says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:49 AM

    People that take offense to a statement like this simply refuse to comprehend facts and reality. The most recent stats I could find from legitimate sites (US Census Bureau and FBI.gov) show that blacks populate roughly 13% of the US, yet commit roughly 39% of all violent crimes. I’m not racist…I’m a realist. Apparently Charles tends to operate similarly.

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    Pointing that out has absolutely no value though, because it doesn’t address causation. On it’s own that stat is meaningless and dangerous. It is highly likely that the cause has nothing to do with race.

  15. I’m just glad Haley has liberated us from the drunk, abusive Irish-American stereotype. Now we as a people can move forward.

  16. The same folks that call this racist will turn around and blame society and discrimination when these guys don’t listen, and blow all their money at strip clubs where their entourages shoot people. There’s always an excuse.

  17. About 70% of NFL players are black.

    So logically one would expect more incidents with black players.

    And that doesn’t even touch backgrounds and opportunities.

    Don’t be ignorant.

  18. He is not wrong. Yes there are exceptions, but generally speaking white players get in trouble less. Part of it may be that generally the white players came from a little bit better neighborhoods or were given some money management skills. Another part of it is that there are far more black players, especially at the “athletic” positions. OL and qbs tend to be smarter and get in trouble less, both black and white. Most white guys fall into the OL, QB or kicker category. It is none the less likely good advice as a general rule.

  19. Good to see Haley speak his mind on this. Political correctness is for losers; better to be honest and offend than be dishonest out of fear of the truth.

  20. ctiggs says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:44 AM
    As a black dude this is the sad reality.
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    and as a Black Man you and charles both embarrass me.

  21. There’s no doubt in my mind that the above two statements (at the time of my writing this) were written by white men.

    Statements like “He’s a wise man” and “Just look at the police blotter” give away the ignorance that’s pervasive with those who have no interest in digging beneath the surface of a thing in order to fully comprehend it.

    1.) First of all, with 68% of all NFL players being black it only stands to reason that incidents involving blacks will also be a higher,… simple math.

    2.) Anyone with any knowledge of the predominately white run media understands that since the dawning of the age of television the media’s love affair with running negative stories concerning the misdeeds of non-whites, especially blacks. The truth this doesn’t change because you don’t believe it.

    3.) Considering the media’s penchant for highlighting the ills of non-whites and blacks specifically, Haley’s comment was one of ignorance, stupidity and irresponsibility. It’s glaringly apparent that wisdom of speech is not one of Charles’ strong points.

  22. saintsfan1111 says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:30 AM
    Gronk?
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    Really? A guy that simply has fun and enjoys his youth. Saves his money. Gives his all on the field. Works hard and bounces back from several serious injuries. Never been arrested. Serves several charities.
    I wouldn’t think this is a bad example to emulate.

  23. nfl is a microcosm of society. White privilege exists and it exists in data, media and perception. Haley is uneducated.
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    What does that have to do with Haley and role models? U sound like the uneducated one lol

  24. What would happen if a white guy said “act like black people”? Not that they would want to, but if it was said, then it would get all kind of negative flack. White people do or say anything about race it is considered racism, black people do whatever they want and it’s acceptable.

  25. saintsfan1111 says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:30 AM

    Gronk?
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    Gronk is just a fun-loving clown. His kind of immaturity will land him in the gossip pages rather than the police blotter…

  26. troylok says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:37 AM

    Even if it pissed the players off, if they remember what he said about finding the right mentor, then he did what he was asked to do.
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    The fact that these players apparently need ‘mentors’ is a clear indication that we have an epidemic of fatherless households…

  27. and said the rookies need to “have people that stand for something” until they can do it for themselves.
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    This is a great line.

    White privilege exists and it exists in data, media and perception. Haley is uneducated.
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    Not so much anymore pal. There are no special education funds, benefits, or channels for white people. Black people are allowed to say words forbidden to be spoken by whites, whether it be dialogue or music. Every commercial, news broadcast, movie, TV show, etc. has a ratio of black to white not representative of the population ratio. All of this overcompensation has lead to out of control political correctness and racial double standards.

  28. dcpatfan, what is the percentage of black arrests vs percentage of white arrests in the NFL? white privilege? pfft what a liberal lie!

  29. I got Haleys autograph a couple years back at a Cowboys Training Camp in Oxnard, Ca.

    He didn’t even make eye contact with me when I said hello, and looked like he didn’t want to be there…

    Just signed his picture, handed it over and looked around.

    I almost wanted to hand it back to him…

  30. Imagine the outcry if a white former player told white players to “act like the black guys”

    “Gronk?”

    Gronk has never been arrested, has saved all his nfl money and lives off endorsements, is fantastic on the field and still manages to live a great life. So yes, pkayers of every race should emulate him

  31. @saintsfan1111

    Which police blotter has Gronk been on? How many mugshots making the rounds? Might be better off pointing out an idiot like Manziel.

    Numbers still back up Haley, though.

  32. Nice of PFT to find one counter case. Nothing is 100%. Yes some white guys get in trouble. But, generally, his advice is true. Not sure what the percentages are, but say the NFL is 60% black. Do you think the percentage of arrests is also 60%? Probably more like 90. So what he says is generally true. Of course you have a few bad apples.

  33. It’s the culture of “keep it real.” So if you get to the pros you have to maintain that street cred bullshh. This is what happens everyday in the inner city a kid tries to do right but he is called out for acting “white” for doing right in school or he has 2 parents at home. The streets suck that kid in because the bad kids are envious so they bring the good ones down to their level. This idea of acting a certain way because that’s how it’s suppose to be because bc that’s the reputation of neighborhood or block. It’s terrible. I see too many kids get sucked in when they were on the right path. The good people of the neighborhood and they’re more good than bad HAVE to step up.

  34. Imagine how all you-know-what would break loose if a white coach or player made those comments.

  35. But if the white former players say “Don’t act like the black guys.” they are called racists.

  36. dcpatfan says:

    nfl is a microcosm of society. White privilege exists
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    Must be why a black man has been elected president twice.

  37. You can talk and talk all you want, but you’re not really going to change anybody. You really just need personnel people who are good at evaluating character. The 49ers teams from the dynasty era did a pretty good job with this (except Haley). Those 1980’s 49ers were mean and nasty on the field, but great guys off the field. They didn’t need someone telling them to act right. They just drafted players who already knew better. They proved that nice people can excel in a violent sport. People who say otherwise are just making excuses.

  38. You don’t have to like what he said but stats say he was right.

    Truth hurts, huh?

    It isn’t the 5 year old attention span, it’s the 5 year old IQ.

  39. Hmm… that is misinformation. “Whites” who drive around in Maybachs don’t get stopped… because they’re white, Mr. Haley (i.e., “Life In America”).

  40. I’m a gringo, but I agree and disagree with what he is saying. Agree because most of the criminal acts that hit the police report are of African-American decent. Disagree with him because its just Common Sense not to kill dogs, beat your wife, do drugs, get DUI’s so on and so on.

  41. If you focus on the word mentor vs. the word white, you hear a man I would be proud to have as a teammate.
    No crying about how unfair or tough life is.
    Just truth on the field and effort.
    A Hall of Famer at that.
    Congratulations Charles Haley! You the man.

  42. ctiggs says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:44 AM
    As a black dude this is the sad reality.
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    and as a Black Man you and charles both embarrass me.

    I’m a black man. And, I don’t like the statement. But, I understand what he was trying to convey. And, I’m sorry but this is true. No, whites aren’t imumme to getting into trouble, see Ben and Johnny but the reality is by the numbers blacks players do get into more trouble. I’m not embarrass by the statement, but I am troubled by it.

  43. Is or isn’t “acting white” an insult for black students in inner city schools who try to excel academically? That is what has been reported.

  44. Haley simply recognized the issue and suggested an attention getting, thought provoking solution. He could have said to the white players: Play like the black players.

  45. charles…do you mean act like peyton when he was st UT? Or julian edelman in da club and countless other “acts” by white players the white privilege controlled media relegate to back pages? smh. Quit pandering

  46. Regardless of race, it all starts in the home. 70+% fatherless rate in the black community is inexcusable. No other race comes close. Most inmates, regardless of race; were either fatherless or had abusive fathers. It’s no guarantee, but the odds are in a young mans favor if he was raised to accept responsibility & reject passivity. Moms can only do so much. If there’s no dad or father figure in the home, who do these kids end up emulating? What type of people show these fatherless kids attention in order to gain their trust?

  47. Didnt Harold Ramis in the movie STRIPES once say “C’mon, rhythm! Hut, 2, 3, 4. Black guys help the white guys”? That’s the fact, Jack.

  48. klutch14u says:
    Jul 24, 2015 8:10 AM
    That’s just solid life advice. Black folks are at a crossroads

    21 3
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    Unfortunately your right. Everytime im at the “crossroads” of Wisconsin Ave & M st I always remember to get my “white cadence” on. Smmh..

  49. Wasn’t Haley also known for showing a little too much of himself for an extended period of time in the locker room? Or was it an extension of himself for a little too much time?

  50. Well, he certainly got their attention. Likely they were all on their phones texting or instagramming until he dropped that bombshell.

    It’s clear the vast majority of the readers on PFT hold deep conservative views based on the responses of some of the more controversial topics here: Redskins name, bashing the current president, views on racial topics, Donald Trump, Rush Limbaugh, claiming Tebow is a victim because he’s a Christian.

  51. wallabear says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:51 AM
    Hmm… that is misinformation. “Whites” who drive around in Maybachs don’t get stopped… because they’re white, Mr. Haley (i.e., “Life In America”).

    Right….all the blacks arrested in clubs and the drugs in the cars and the beating on the wives and girlfriends is all “misinformation” can’t fix stupid.

  52. Guys, relax. What he really meant was to be slow and uncoordinated on the field. His allegiance is obviously with Dallas

  53. Haley’s comments might be considered inflammatory by some, but I think it’s very refreshing for a black man to state what he said to black players, because there is a lot of truth in what he said.
    Sure — he was exaggerating. But his point is, these young guys have to stop doing the crap they’re doing.

  54. Why do we tolerate racism or racist thoughts when they come from a minority? Ridiculous. There are plenty of white guys that do drugs and commit domestic violence.

    If jay cutler or Jordy Nelson said this, the internet would literally explode.

  55. abninf says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:39 AM

    dcpatfan says:

    nfl is a microcosm of society. White privilege exists
    ====================================

    Must be why a black man has been elected president twice.

    bridgeh2o says:

    Ahh yes, the made up “white privilege” topic.

    Just saw two older white homeless people on the corner panhandling……where is their white privilege????

  56. nyneal says:
    Jul 24, 2015 11:27 AM

    Haley’s comments might be considered inflammatory by some, but I think it’s very refreshing for a black man to state what he said to black players, because there is a lot of truth in what he said.
    Sure — he was exaggerating. But his point is, these young guys have to stop doing the crap they’re doing.

    bridgeh2o says:

    There have been over 500 shootings in Baltimore in the last year, mostly black on black violence.

    When will the liberal media proclaim that black/all lives matter, and say ENOUGH to this type of violence/behavior?

    I think any crime is bad,but you have to get to the core of the problem.

    It is less about race, than it is the UPBRINGING of the child, that instills the values early and throughout the lives of kids that matter.

    Maybe the slogan with true teeth is YOUNG LIVES MATTER!

    That’s where it begins……..

  57. ^^^the only thing Jay Cutler is guilty of is sucking as a QB… The only thing Jordy Nelson is guilty of is being a pretty damn good WR in the NFL.

  58. The message should be given to every young black man, not just the athletes. Tell them to pull their pants up and stop using gutter language to every woman they meet. My daughter gets the most vulgar speech from black men on a daily basis. They have no filter on what they say whatsoever. Not to say that every black man is like that, but a frightening number of them really are. Of course we do see too many young white men emulating them. How we let that culture take over is beyond me.

  59. Sconny here has stated that blacks are 3X as likely to commit violent crimes than white guys (FBI.com)

    I bet it’s 6:1 in the NFL.

    There must be a significant correlation also with lack of regard for women and nightclub living.

  60. I’m far from a conservative but tend to agree with Haley. Players from the hood need to use their position to not only help themselves escape that socioeconomic situation but to be role model to others in the hood to seek higher goals than crime and be a productive member of society. I’m not naïve enough to believe that there’s no institutional or societal racism, but help yourselves. Learn to speak properly, dress decently, get an education, and OBEY the law.

  61. “There have been over 500 shootings in Baltimore in the last year, mostly black on black violence.
    When will the liberal media proclaim that black/all lives matter, and say ENOUGH to this type of violence/behavior?”

    Black/all lives matter! Enough is enough!!
    Problem solved.

  62. abninf says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:39 AM
    dcpatfan says:

    nfl is a microcosm of society. White privilege exists
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    Must be why a black man has been elected president twice.

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    u gotta love good ole white skin privilege. Why every time people of color make strides forward it comes with a tremendous “backlash”? We are witnessing as much police brutality, church killings and burnings and race struggles as I’ve seen since the 60’s. So don’t tell me to find some satisfaction in the proverbial “bone throw”

  63. All I know is on the Cowboys team they use Jason Witten as an example. Work ethic and personal conduct.

  64. Crazy doesn’t know race…

    Charles Haley is, and always has been crazy.

    One of the worst teammates ever to don a helmet.

    But I’m glad he has gotten his life together, but I would get upset about anything this guy says.

  65. Given that blacks outnumber the whites nearly 2 to 1 in the NFL, the number of arrests don’t say anything. You would have to consider the percentages to know whether that statement should even be considered. For those that say, white’s get off because of who they are, so do blacks in the NFL. All of these players are held in high regard to the majority of the nation and get away with things all the time that none of us would. I wonder when the last time one of the known players has had to pay for a meal at a restaurant.

  66. saintsfan1111 says:Jul 24, 2015 7:30 AM

    Gronk?

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    True, Gronk has been all over the news the past couple summers, but he hasn’t had even a sniff of a problem from the police. It’s all been fun partying and book writing and oh, apparently, he hasn’t even touched his salary from the NFL, just living off endorsements, so good financial management too.

    There are certainly worse role models out there. If not many more meat-headed at times, lol.

  67. Lost in all this is the fact that the cops go out of their way to stalk black pro athletes, while looking the other way and destroying evidence (Roethlisberger) when white pro athletes run afoul of the law. It all goes to perpetuating the stereotype.

  68. To all of you saying “it’s this new generation…”

    That’s what your parents said about your generation.

    That’s what your grandparents said about your parents’ generation.

    That’s what Adam and Eve said about Cain and Abel.

    It hasn’t been true yet. It isn’t true now.

    Now go tell those kids to get off your lawn!

  69. “This is 2015, he’s not allowed to speak the truth.”

    If he’s ‘not allowed’, then how did you find out about it, I wonder? Seems like he’s ‘allowed’ to say what he wants to me. You’re quoting his quote from a newspaper that quoted him, but to you this somehow shows evidence that he is ‘not allowed’ to speak? Is that right? Your conclusion does not follow from your premise. There’s a lot of that going around.

  70. Stereotypes exist for a reason. I bet my paycheck that you people saying this is racist would not drop your children off unattended in a inner city black neighborhood but would have no problem dropping them off at the suburban mall. It’s time we be honest with ourselves.

  71. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Jul 24, 2015 12:46 PM
    Lost in all this is the fact that the cops go out of their way to stalk black pro athletes, while looking the other way and destroying evidence (Roethlisberger) when white pro athletes run afoul of the law. It all goes to perpetuating the stereotype.
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    Tell me, how did that work out for Jameis Winston?

  72. I’m just glad a white didn’t say this, because it would be all over the news. And hypothetical white guy apologizes and loses his job.

  73. saintsfan1111 says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:30 AM
    Gronk?

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    Gronk has never been arrested as a pro, and has every dime he’s made from NFL contracts in the bank. He’s living off endorsement money. Sounds like a game plan to emulate. Think a little before you type.

  74. Charles Haley is one of the driving forces behind 5 super bowls. Especially for the Cowboys.
    That being said he means Tim Tebow white not Aaron Hernandez white…

  75. In today’s society it’s racist unless you’re offending white people. White people are easy-going, and fairly tolerant, Dylan Roof is the exception.

    Haley is right. In his Donald Trump moment he should have narrowed it down a tad to the white people that don’t get in trouble. Now all the black players will emulate Jeremy Shockey or Big Ben at the bar. It’s not like there aren’t examples of straight up class black athletes like Troy Vincent when he played, or Jason Avant.

  76. He is 100% correct… the sad part is he’ll be labeled an Uncle Tom or a House N… shame. Race has nothing to do with it… just act like a decent person.

  77. dcpatfan says:
    Jul 24, 2015 12:15 PM

    abninf says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:39 AM
    dcpatfan says:

    nfl is a microcosm of society. White privilege exists
    ====================================

    Must be why a black man has been elected president twice.

    26 4
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    u gotta love good ole white skin privilege. Why every time people of color make strides forward it comes with a tremendous “backlash”? We are witnessing as much police brutality, church killings and burnings and race struggles as I’ve seen since the 60’s. So don’t tell me to find some satisfaction in the proverbial “bone throw”

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    The President is bi-racial, half Caucasion, half African.

  78. nfceastfan says:
    Jul 24, 2015 1:12 PM

    In today’s society it’s racist unless you’re offending white people. White people are easy-going, and fairly tolerant, Dylan Roof is the exception.

    Haley is right. In his Donald Trump moment he should have narrowed it down a tad to the white people that don’t get in trouble. Now all the black players will emulate Jeremy Shockey or Big Ben at the bar. It’s not like there aren’t examples of straight up class black athletes like Troy Vincent when he played, or Jason Avant
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    Nothing was proven in Ben’s case, allegations and only allegations. The joker in Nevada was mentally ill as she had an imaginary relationship with a solider that never existed. In the other case there was never any proof of sexual contact. Ben was never charged in either case.

  79. Shock value aside perhaps pointing guys like Cam Newton who got in trouble but has been above reproach since, Russell Wilson, Luke Keckley all whose good guy images has earned them a ton of endorsement deals. Maybe stop telling QBs they are the face of the franchise, but all players are the face.

  80. I haven’t read all the comments here, but I am sure someone has pointed out the disparity in pure numbers of black versus white players. Nonetheless I suppose it is obvious there are differences in percentages that get into or find trouble by race.

    The question I ask, is it helpful to a young black man to be told “act like the white guys?” Does that mean anything? I am white and wonder whether that doesn’t have the opposite affect on these young men.

    I like the suggestion more: find good role models, black, white or whatever. Doesn’t that make more sense?

  81. Stereotypes exist for a reason. I bet my paycheck that you people saying this is racist would not drop your children off unattended in a inner city black neighborhood but would have no problem dropping them off at the suburban mall. It’s time we be honest with ourselves.
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    It’s hard to give your argument any merit when the crime rate at the 2 locations are not even close to equal.

  82. This is a rather stunningly calm and interesting discussion here on a tricky topic.

    Congrats to everyone. Doesn’t seem like this could be the same posters as on every other story or can all these people simply flip a filter switch?

  83. byHim4u says:
    Jul 24, 2015 8:54 AM
    There’s no doubt in my mind that the above two statements (at the time of my writing this) were written by white men.

    Statements like “He’s a wise man” and “Just look at the police blotter” give away the ignorance that’s pervasive with those who have no interest in digging beneath the surface of a thing in order to fully comprehend it.

    1.) First of all, with 68% of all NFL players being black it only stands to reason that incidents involving blacks will also be a higher,… simple math.

    2.) Anyone with any knowledge of the predominately white run media understands that since the dawning of the age of television the media’s love affair with running negative stories concerning the misdeeds of non-whites, especially blacks. The truth this doesn’t change because you don’t believe it.

    3.) Considering the media’s penchant for highlighting the ills of non-whites and blacks specifically, Haley’s comment was one of ignorance, stupidity and irresponsibility. It’s glaringly apparent that wisdom of speech is not one of Charles’ strong points.

    _______________________________________

    All those words and still didn’t say a one thing that was meaningful or factual.

  84. All those words and still didn’t say a one thing that was meaningful or factual.
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    E X A C T L Y

  85. ‘Why don’t you all act like the white guys? You never see them in the paper getting high or hitting people. Why don’t you act like that?”
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    Allow me to translate:

    Act like civilized human beings and you will be treated accordingly by coaches, fans and the police.

    Seriously, how hard is that?

  86. Lost in all this is the fact that the cops go out of their way to stalk black pro athletes, while looking the other way and destroying evidence (Roethlisberger) when white pro athletes run afoul of the law. It all goes to perpetuating the stereotype.
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    Man, some people are way off base…no factual basis at all

  87. clownofdust says:
    Jul 24, 2015 2:09 PM
    byHim4u says:
    Jul 24, 2015 8:54 AM
    There’s no doubt in my mind that the above two statements (at the time of my writing this) were written by white men.

    Statements like “He’s a wise man” and “Just look at the police blotter” give away the ignorance that’s pervasive with those who have no interest in digging beneath the surface of a thing in order to fully comprehend it.

    1.) First of all, with 68% of all NFL players being black it only stands to reason that incidents involving blacks will also be a higher,… simple math.

    2.) Anyone with any knowledge of the predominately white run media understands that since the dawning of the age of television the media’s love affair with running negative stories concerning the misdeeds of non-whites, especially blacks. The truth this doesn’t change because you don’t believe it.

    3.) Considering the media’s penchant for highlighting the ills of non-whites and blacks specifically, Haley’s comment was one of ignorance, stupidity and irresponsibility. It’s glaringly apparent that wisdom of speech is not one of Charles’ strong points.

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    All those words and still didn’t say a one thing that was meaningful or factual.
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    Everything he said was both meaningful and factual. Denial and deflection is the chief tool of those who benefit from White Privilege.

  88. Somewhere, Incognito is asking where his white privilege is. Or where Haley was to offer such sage advice in Ritchie time of need.

    If a white man said this in reverse, the race merchants would be out in force.

  89. clownofdust says:
    Jul 24, 2015 2:09pm
    All those words and still didn’t say a one thing that was meaningful or factual

    sb44champs says:
    Jul 24, 2015 2:15 PM
    All those words and still didn’t say a one thing that was meaningful or factual.
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    No actually it is not meaningful to “white skin privilege”. And so aren’t “facts” like the sentencing disparity among whites and people of color, the inequality in death penalty exonerations and the fact that racism is a white problem not a person of colors problem.

  90. Think about this in reverse.

    “Don’t act like the black guys.”

    What becomes of it? Violence, Public Condemnation, and Riots.

  91. even though it may be a true statement, it still sounds racist.. if Colin Cowherd said something like this, they would want him fired and banned from NFL events. and doesn’t this prove that blacks have a tendency for this kind of behavior, since it was brought out by one of their own?,,and white people can now say this WITHOUT being called RACIST??

  92. Is “white privilege” because of being white, or because of growing up in an environment that is more closely associated with whites than with blacks? It appears to be the environment, rather than the skin color – that seems to be demonstrated best by Asian-Americans, but also by African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans who are from middle class/wealthy backgrounds.

  93. dcpatfan says:
    Jul 24, 2015 8:05 AM
    @sconnyslovethemsomecousins

    Whats the percentage data for molesters?

    20 56
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    FUNNY thing about that and yes I would agree that child molestation/pedophiles seem to be something that is dominated by “white” offenders HOWEVER ask yourself this……what about prostitution and men that facilitate this. How do you feel about adult men that prostitute children/minors or those that engage in sex with one. IE Lawrence Taylor…just an NFL reference

    Then ask yourself what do you think a culture that condones the “PIMP” lifestyle? What even does it say about someone that thinks that this is an appropriate way to view adult or minor women?

    How could anyone not be revolted at the idea of RUNNING women in a sex trade. I work with offender everyday and when a pimp rolls in to the yard I see how he is looked at a business man or high end criminal. It never ceases to amaze me that any man BLACK or WHITE could not see these parasites for what they are.

    A threat to all women of any race or creed….to our mothers, sisters, daughters…..

  94. sconnyslovethemsomecousins says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:49 AM
    People that take offense to a statement like this simply refuse to comprehend facts and reality. The most recent stats I could find from legitimate sites (US Census Bureau and FBI.gov) show that blacks populate roughly 13% of the US, yet commit roughly 39% of all violent crimes. I’m not racist…I’m a realist. Apparently Charles tends to operate similarly.
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    Actually, the statistics show that blacks represent 39% of violent crime arrests. For unsolved crimes, the race of the perpetrator is often unknown.

  95. 250dollarnflowner says:
    Jul 24, 2015 12:57 PM
    Stereotypes exist for a reason. I bet my paycheck that you people saying this is racist would not drop your children off unattended in a inner city black neighborhood but would have no problem dropping them off at the suburban mall. It’s time we be honest with ourselves.
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    Nor would I drop my kids off in downtown Hong Kong or Newcastle.

  96. I like what Haley did here.

    He’s not wrong BUT the media doesn’t give the same attention to negative headlines when it concerns white players.

    Roethlisberger and the shooting at Tom Brady’s wedding come to mind. If either of those incidents had happened to RGIII or Call Newton, media types would have a field day.

  97. You can’ t speak the truth, Charles! Don’t you know we can’t have that in 2015? Seriously though, we need to leave the PC BS aside and understand the truth of what he was saying. There are some white guys here and there who have messed up, but when you hear about players in trouble, what comes to mind before they tell you who it is? Black players have got to get it through their heads that they have got to take their behavior seriously. Their endorsement income depends on it.

  98. I am white and was raised by a white father who had been poor fatherless and dropped out of high school “to make money. He eventually became a “self made” success, owning his own import business and eventually did very well but his inner demons compelled him into habitual gambling and a temper so bad he was “known” in the Chicago hoods as “white rage.”

    As an honest effort to raise me with what knowledge HE LEARNED to be true FOR HIM, my dad made the mistake of constantly criticizing teachers for “no real world” knowledge” and always saying school/grades dont mean anything unless you want to be a DR or lawyer, etc. Of course he was only sharing a philosophy that helped him cope with his limitations and motivated his success.

    Unfortunately, as a kid I too thought it was being “a wuss” to try at school–I proudly carried a D+ average, ie just enough to pass, but not so good it would appear I was trying. So I understand where these kids are coming from.

    The fact is my Dad made a terrible mistake “trying” to give me “good” advise as it helped HIM. It made my life MUCH harder, and I wish there was a way for BOTH sides to understand the other’s culture — as THAT type of “sharing” will be what helps ALL sides come together and start healing the awful conflict/resentment still being perpetuated today.

    Every word of this post is true.

  99. sconnyslovethemsomecousins says:
    Jul 24, 2015 7:49 AM
    People that take offense to a statement like this simply refuse to comprehend facts and reality. The most recent stats I could find from legitimate sites (US Census Bureau and FBI.gov) show that blacks populate roughly 13% of the US, yet commit roughly 39% of all violent crimes. I’m not racist…I’m a realist. Apparently Charles tends to operate similarly.
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    First, that 39% includes Hispanics as well. So, you’re inaccurate about blacks. Secondly, whites account for 60.1% of all violent crime in America. Violent crimes include murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault. Whites overwhelmingly commit more rape crimes (double blacks and hispanics combined). Murders and robberies were about the same between whites and blacks/hispanics combined. So, I don’t see this silver lining for white people when they commit double the number of criminal acts by blacks for rape and assault. It’s easy to point out the disproportion but you have to understand why. Decades of oppression and unfairness have stripped some blacks of hopes, education and opportunity that we are still striving to overcome. 265 years of overt oppression (1600 – 1865) and another 150 years (1865 – 1968) (and continuing) of subverted oppression and Jim Crow laws cannot be eradicated in post-50 years. It will take more time to overcome.

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