Holmgren says Russell Wilson should take the offer

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The Seahawks head to training camp soon. And if quarterback Russell Wilson doesn’t have a new contract when camp opens, there won’t be one until after the season ends.

Former Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren believes Wilson should get the deal done, swapping out his $1.5 million salary for 2015 with whatever the Seahawks are offering. Because they apparently are offering a lot.

“I know this, without going into the numbers,” Holmgren said on Friday’s edition of The Erik Kuselias Show on NBC Sports Radio. “I know the Seahawks have not lowballed Russell Wilson. I know that. Now, is it an Alex Rodriguez contract, which is twice as much as anybody’s ever made in their life? No. But they have not lowballed him. So I think it’s a fair deal, looking at it from an outsider looking in. I have no skin in the game but I just think — I think he should do this.”

And then Holmgren, who used the “without going into the numbers” caveat, went into the numbers.

“He’s gonna sign a huge contract, in the $20 million-plus range, I would guess,” Holmgren said of Wilson. “And to not sign it, and to play this year for [$1.5 million]. They always run the risk of injury. To make another million bucks in a hundred million dollar contract over five years doesn’t make any sense to me at all. And I would tell him that. If he asks me, I’ll tell him. And that’s why I think he’s making a mistake.”

There’s a lot of wisdom in that last remark from Holmgren. By playing for only $1.5 million in 2015, Wilson loses forever the extra money he could have made this year on a new contract. If, for example, the Seahawks are willing to pay him only (only?) $20 million per year on a five-year deal, he gets another $18.5 million this year that he otherwise will never see — and he fulfills the contract a year earlier.

That’s the other thing important Wilson needs to keep in mind. If the duration of the deal will be the same now or in February, the sooner he signs the new deal, the sooner he’s back at the table for his next deal.

In an industry where there are a finite number of years in which an employee can do the job, the sooner the big money flows (and the sooner the contracts expire), the better.

115 responses to “Holmgren says Russell Wilson should take the offer

  1. I don’t think I’ve seen a single pro-Wilson piece from PFT as it relates to this contract situation. Every article you’ve written Mike has taken the team’s side. Very strange.

    If it were truly a fair offer, Wilson would’ve signed by now.

  2. Wilson should take any offer the Seahawks make. Without Beastmode and that defense, he would be a nobody.

  3. You tell him Mike! If anyone knows about takin the money, its this guy! Browns fans everywhere thank you for your contribution to the team while you were here. NOT!

  4. Russell is not elite, and thus he should not get paid elite money. He is good, so he should get good money. Pretty simple to me.

    But now Russell is exposed as a greedy little turd, not the “team guy” he claimed to be.

  5. He should invest in a quarterback coach that could teach him how to read a defense and complete a one yard pass. Seahawks a one and done franchise

  6. I always figured it would be in the area of a 4 year extension for ~90 million. That puts him as highest paid (for about a year) with the opportunity to get a new contract at higher rates sooner than players like Newton, etc. Why that’s important as far as Wilson is concerned is that that is the only way he could make up the ground lost when comparing rookie salaries for QBs he’s better than.

  7. Time Value of Money- an extra year for that carried interest on 18.5M+ to do it’s magic will easily make up for the smaller overall value of a long term deal if invested properly

  8. Can anyone here tell us the exact offer the Seahawks made?

    Without that information how can we form an opinion?

  9. Sometimes ego gets in the way of common sense.

    Wilson is squeezing for an extra penny and may miss out on extra dollars.

  10. If Wilson decides to bet on himself by not accepting the bigger deal and forgoes 18.5 million dollars at least in 2015, he better understand what he might get in 2016. It would be hard to imagine at the moment that the money he loses in this year of the contract would be immediately recoverable in a contract next year and he is taking on a ton of risk.

    I think he will probably sign.

  11. We don’t know the numbers–the overall offer, the amount guaranteed, or even the length of the proposed contract. We don’t know if Holmgren knows any of the details (although he has a lot of credibility).

    We do know that there has been a huge swing the last three months in the “appeal” of Russell Wilson. Three months ago he was much more highly regarded by most of us fans. He and his agent have not conducted themselves very astutely with their comments about their financial goals and “other” subjects.

    I love the guy–as a person, a leader, and as a quarterback–but I have to admit that I have been affected by what has almost seemed to be a coordinated attack by the media on his skill level and his personality.

    If there is a contract offer that is on the table that is similar to what Holmgren has described, take the offer, Russell. And do it before camp starts.

  12. This is where the disconnect begins. Maybe it’s different for the layperson to understand. The regular guy. The average fan. The person that isn’t absolutely obsessed with being the very best and using every tool available to gain every possible advantage in every situation. For the regular person, driven by concerns for enjoying the simple things in life like family, friends, food, leisure, music and art and building a foundation upon which to enjoy these things, it is hard to understand why someone would feel so compelled to wring every possible penny out of a situation, whether driven by greed or ego, when a $100M contract could comfortably, if not lavishly, fund generations to come, if managed properly. Unless the player wants out, it is hard to fathom why an athlete, who plays for a winning organization and is adored by a fan base, would want to hold a team hostage for a little more “extra” that they won’t possibly ever need. It is a problem us regular folks, who are happy with their family, friends, lives and careers will never understand.

  13. If the Seahawks were to offer Wilson 20 million per year, including this year, I have to believe Wilson would have signed by now. Since no one actually knows exactly what Wilson has been offered, I don’t understand how they feel qualified to opine on whether or not Wilson should sign. Whoever, perhaps John Schneider, is giving Holmgren his information may be leaving key details out of the offer. It also appears they have leveraged their relationship with the Big Show to escalate the PR battle with Wilson.

  14. If it is in the $20m range, I would take it. The threat of injury would be the biggest factor. He could always play the Darrelle Revis holdout card later – after the money is in the bank.

  15. Holmgren hasn’t always been the smartest business man but I do believe he has a valid point. The O-line is the only potential weakness I see on that team and Wilson is going to be seeing some pretty awesome pass rushes starting in week 1 against St. Louis. YIKES!

  16. Have been a Hawks fan for years,going back to Seattle in September.I totally agree with Holmgren,Wilson should take the deal.I can tell you that a lot of fans in Seattle are not happy with Wilson right now.We all still love him,but he is being ridiculous.

  17. Memo to Russel:

    If the Seahawks offerred you 20 mil a year you should take it and run all the way to the bank. Stop listening to those people who are telling you you are elite because you are not. You play on a team with the best running back in the NFL and one of the best defenses in the history of the NFL. Without those two things you are a very average, system QB.

    Stop being stupid and take the money you idiot!!

  18. The concept that the defense and Marshawn make Wilson is absurd btw, and I have no skin in the game. He absolutely carries that offense and makes Marshawn so much better than he ever was before Wilson (not that he was ever not a good back). Wilson had no weapons at all, at all the last two years and took this team to the Super Bowl twice. And he had the Seahawks putting up a great deal of points for a team w no receivers or TEs. He carried the team and he’s going to get paid Aaron Rodgers money by the Seahawks or someone else…

  19. packfntk:

    “Russell is not elite, and thus he should not get paid elite money. He is good, so he should get good money. Pretty simple to me.”

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    Funny how fans seem to think they know way more than players, scouts, agents, and front office guys. Tell me, did Russell Wilson play in each of the last two Super Bowls and take home a ring in one of them? Because if he did, then the Seahawks better break the bank for him. If they don’t, then probably at least a dozen teams across the league would be more than happy to retain his services.

  20. I am ashamed to say that this scum bag played one year at Wisconsin. Bet his ex wife hopes he plays for 1.5 and gets hurt. It wasn’t very nice of him to kick her to the curb before his new contract kicks in. When will white women ever learn.

  21. I see both sides to this argument. Holmgren is right in a sense, but if Wilson pulls off a Joe Flacco and signs right after winning another Super Bowl, his advice will look foolish.

    That said, one thing is certain, Wilson has chipped away at his reputation with the passive aggressive approach he’s taken with this contract situation.

    Wilson and RGIII are two people I hope our guy Marcus Mariota is watching carefully. At one time, both of those young QBs had the pristine reputation that Mariota enjoys today. Griffin has absolutely destroyed his. Wilson may be in much better shape (publicly) than RGIII, but he needs to stop the posturing … now.

  22. How patronizing is it for Holmgren or Florio to suggest that the Wilson team has not studied each scenario exhaustively.

    He shouldn’t listen to either of you.He’s paying people for that.

  23. I could be mistaken here, but doesn’t the new contract start after his current contract expires regardless of when he signs it? The contract expires 5 years after the expiration of the current contract, so he doesn’t get to his next contract a year earlier by signing it now. He gets the signing bonus money now so it makes sense, but I don’t think the time thing is an advantage.

  24. I think Wilson will sign before training camp, probably Wednesday of next week is my guess, but if he doesn’t, I’m going to have a hard time thinking he hasn’t gotten a little greedy. Maybe he’s being influenced by his agent, who is trying to play games and get the title of ‘highest paid in the NFL.’ If so, that’s stupid, because that title won’t last long.

  25. Metrocritical
    Best post of the day….and I think all us regular people think that way because that would be a perfect world for us

  26. cafetero1075 says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:30 AM
    He should take the contract because it’s a good one.
    ________________________________________

    Could you tell us the specific details of the contract offer that you feel he should take? What is the length of the contract offer? The amount guaranteed? What is the signing bonus? What is the salary each year of the contract offer? What will be the cap hit each year?

  27. I know the exact numbers being discussed because Russel Wilson, his agent, Pete Carrol, John Schneider, Paul Allen and the NSA all called me and told me.
    I promised not to divulge the details though … 😉

    Russel Wilson is asking for too much, but Seattle may give in, because it’s hard to get a replacement QB who is any good, and they don’t want Johnny Manziel, Geno Smith or EJ Manuel when they get cut.

  28. While I have the upmost respect for Wilson because of his accomplishments not only at the collegiate level but what he has accomplished at a tender age in his pro career— but for him to potentially turn down a 20 million dollar a year contract– is dam right ludicrous. Wilson has made very smart business decisions to this point in his career; this should be a no brainer. He is a very good quarterback but his is not an “elite” QB. He is more a product of the system that the Seattle runs—a la DeMarco Murray and Murray will find out very quickly that the Eagles’ OL is not the Cowboys.

  29. In spite of the ballooning numbers we are seeing young QBs get, even the most die hard Seahawks fan must realize he isn’t worth eating that much cap space. Obviously the 25 mil number that Russell offhandedly alluded to is what he wants.

    Good QB. Not elite.

  30. Funny how fans seem to think they know way more than players, scouts, agents, and front office guys. Tell me, did Russell Wilson play in each of the last two Super Bowls and take home a ring in one of them? Because if he did, then the Seahawks better break the bank for him. If they don’t, then probably at least a dozen teams across the league would be more than happy to retain his services.

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    Look up the 2000 Baltimore Ravens. The Seahawks used the same formula to get to and win the super bowl. You want to give Trent Dilfer $20 mil? He is not the biggest reason they win. He is not Rodgers or Brady or Big Ben or Flacco. He is Colin Kaperstink or RG III on a very good team. I agree that a dozen teams would be happy to retain his services. QB is the most difficult position in all of sports to play well (in my opinion). He is a competent QB who could help any number of teams, but he is not elite and does not deserve elite money

  31. eljefedelmundo says:

    Are the Seahags $18.5M under the cap?

    Might be some rearranging required..
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    His full salary doesn’t count under the cap. Obviously you don’t have a clue what a “cap number” is.

  32. Ah, yes, the familiar “Wilson’s not elite” Troll refrain:

    Most wins in 1st 3 seasons in NFL history.
    #2 all-time in regular season passer rating.
    #5 all-time in post season passer rating.
    Tied with Payton Manning and Dan Marino as the only players in NFL history with 50 or more TD passes in 1st 2 seasons.

    Peyton Manning and Dan Marino.

    84 TD passes in his 1st 3 seasons. More than Tom Brady.

    Tom Brady.

    How many of those 84 TD passes did Marshawn Lynch and the defense throw?

    Most playoff wins in last 3 seasons.
    Most wins in last 3 seasons.
    2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl victory.
    11-1 against other Super Bowl QBs.

    But yeah, Wilson’s not elite…

    Feel free to post YOUR team’s QBs stats here for comparison.

  33. While it was a horrible play call, an elite QB wouldn’t have thrown that interception. Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers would have either checked out of the play or put the ball where only the receiver could catch it. He doesn’t deserve their salary.

  34. It could be that Wilson isn’t signing because the next deal no matter where he signs is going to have the “You can’t go near a baseball diamond” clause in it. There is no way it can’t, a franchise level player making close to or over 100 million can’t be allowed to do something that could jeopardize there ability to play like that.

    Wilson knows that and could just want another summer of playing with his baseball pipe dream.

  35. I like Russel and what he brings to the table… but he hasnt proven he can operate in anything but a run first offence, what makes him think he worth more then guy s like Brady, Rodgers, or big ben? Not to mention if he does the math right playing under current sallary and franchise tag for the next two years would not get him the same money. So im not sure what leverage he thinks he has, he has way more to lose to gain.

  36. Russel Wilson is a fine quarterback who probably has not reached his potential. Look at the receivers he’s had to work with. This year will truly tell the tale of whether he’s an elite passer (running QB’s don’t last) now that he’ll have an elite receiver/pass-catching tight end. We shall see…

  37. He’s an idiot if he plays at $1.5M. I’d either lock up, or hold out and make the team come to him.

  38. Perhaps he wants to get his franchise tag years behind him and hit the open market when the money gets huge.

    Especially when guys like Romo, Brees, and Manning retire.

  39. The players should have to finish a contract before another starts. It’s not just 1 player that makes a team good……………..they will not be that good this year any way,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they are going down

  40. seahawkboymike -LOL your stats are a joke, he has 72 TDs his first 3 season , tom brady whom i hate with a passion, didnt start every game until his 3rd season, so of course wilson will have a higher stat sheet then him. but you can’t combine playoff stats with regular season stats then say he’s done more than someone else. He also hasn’t even played every team in football yet. So calm down hypeman you would be good at a rap concert . You also forgot about his 52 turnovers in the last 3 seasons.

  41. It is beginning to look like this walk-on-water man-of-God wants the ego stroke of being paid more than anyone else….on “principle” I’m sure.

    Otherwise, Holmgren is correct.

    Maybe he isn’t a modern day saint.

  42. This is the first I have heard about the Seahawks offering up a big time contract for Wilson. I’ve got my doubts. If they are offering a contract near Rodgers territory Wilson would be all over it.

  43. inozwetrust says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:47 AM

    Memo to Russel:
    *******************
    Learn how to spell before calling someone with a maters degree an idiot.

    R-U-S-S-E-L-L

  44. I like Wilson, but most NFL footboll fans know he is a good qb but NOT a GREAT QB. The Seahawks success is based on the BEASTs performance and the defense. Wilson is NOT in the same vein as Luck, Rodgers, Brees & Manning in his prime. If the Seahawks are paying him like a top 10 QB he should be thrilled & take it.

  45. This guy is not worth what the SeaChickens are offering him. As a Cardinal fan I hope he signs it! They’ll end up regretting it…..

  46. I just wish God would get off his lazy arse and tell Russell what to do. I mean, sure, God probably has Middle East peace, ISIS, crazy mass murders, floods, earthquakes, and some other stuff on his mind, but what could possibly be more important than telling RW what to do?

  47. what makes him think he worth more then guy s like Brady, Rodgers, or big ben?
    ===========================
    Yeah, conveniently leave out 1st ballot HOFer Drew Brees who owns more Top 5 overall records than Rogers, Brady or Pig Pen..

  48. “If it were truly a fair offer, Wilson would’ve signed by now.”

    Heck, Wilson isn’t worth $20 mill a year that Holmgren alluded to.

  49. jjackwagon says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:05 AM
    Wilson should take any offer the Seahawks make. Without Beastmode and that defense, he would be a nobody.

    I love this comment and the thumb count so much. Opposing fans have said this for quite some time now and gotten hammered in the past.

  50. Do you understand the concept of new money? The contract offer is new money. They won’t add 18.5 to this year and that’s what the problem is. PFT gets dumber by the day. Do some research before you put all this stuff out there. They essentially want him to play this year at that number and the new contract would kick in next year. He shouldn’t take that offer.

  51. @qdog112 says:
    Jul 24, 2015 11:08 AM

    inozwetrust says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:47 AM

    Memo to Russel:
    *******************
    Learn how to spell before calling someone with a maters degree an idiot.

    R-U-S-S-E-L-L
    ==================================

    Learn how to spell….Masters!!!!

  52. All these dumb people making thsee comments would take RW on their team in a heartbeat. If you don’t understand NFL contracts, why do you keep writing about them?

  53. He’s not a top five QB, or even top 7.
    And you don’t want to over pay at an already expensive position. You’ll need that money to go elsewhere.

    I think the Seahawks are doing the right thing. And plus, if you look at their defense and what they really do to help their offense. the Seahawks where number 1 last year for scoring with the shortest field.
    I didn’t see many 90 yard drives from them..

  54. feckyerlife says:
    Jul 24, 2015 10:52 AM

    seahawkboymike -LOL your stats are a joke, he has 72 TDs his first 3 season , tom brady whom i hate with a passion, didnt start every game until his 3rd season, so of course wilson will have a higher stat sheet then him. but you can’t combine playoff stats with regular season stats then say he’s done more than someone else. He also hasn’t even played every team in football yet. So calm down hypeman you would be good at a rap concert . You also forgot about his 52 turnovers in the last 3 seasons.

    also can’t forget all the chemical enhancements his team has played with, they don’t call them the ped hawks for nothing

  55. itbacw says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:05 AM
    I don’t think I’ve seen a single pro-Wilson piece from PFT as it relates to this contract situation. Every article you’ve written Mike has taken the team’s side. Very strange.

    If it were truly a fair offer, Wilson would’ve signed by now.

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    You don’t marry the first girl you kiss and you don’t take an offer until you have to. Training camp doesn’t start yet which means Wilson and his team will still want to negotiate.

  56. packfntk says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:13 AM
    Russell is not elite, and thus he should not get paid elite money. He is good, so he should get good money. Pretty simple to me.

    But now Russell is exposed as a greedy little turd, not the “team guy” he claimed to be.

    ——————–

    Fellow Packer fan, you are looking a bit small here. You wouldn’t be handling yourself any different at this point. Why shouldn’t Russell get the best deal possible for himself? You don’t get the chances to cash in very often in life, take advantage.

  57. Funny to see fans get all worked up over this issue. PFT and the media has played you guys as well. Russell was always going to get a new deal before training camp this year. This is very similar to the routine Kaepernick went through.

  58. A $20 million per year contact in the NFL never means a guaranteed $20 million per year. There are always conditions and there are always tricks in scheduling the payments in these contracts to meet a team’s salary cap requirements. So while the $20 million per year number being tossed around sounds more than reasonable, the devil could be in the details, i.e. how much of that is guaranteed and what conditions does Wilson have to fulfill to earn the balance? Without knowing those details, we can’t say is Wilson is doing the right thing or not.

  59. Seahawks have shown that over the last 5 years or so, they are one of the top 3 teams in talent evaluation in the NFL.

    With that said, Wilson isn’t Aaron Rodgers; He isn’t Andrew Luck; He is not the type of QB that can pass for a ton of yards. He doesn’t manipulate safeties with his eyes and then throws back the opposite way into a tight window to complete a pass.

    He isn’t that type of QB.

    So why should the Seahawks pay him like he is that type of QB? The Seahawks are absolutely right in their stance. Wilson should take the offer that he currently has.

  60. also can’t forget all the chemical enhancements his team has played with, they don’t call them the ped hawks for nothing
    ================

    This from the only team who has been caught cheating multiple times.

    LOL

    How’s Kraft’s lawsuit coming?

  61. Float him as trade bait. Some team will mortgage their entire future for him. If he is even remotely serious about the $25 million dollar figure, he isn’t worth the time trying to retain.

  62. higheriqthanyou says:
    Jul 24, 2015 1:09 PM

    also can’t forget all the chemical enhancements his team has played with, they don’t call them the ped hawks for nothing
    ================

    This from the only team who has been caught cheating multiple times.

    LOL

    How’s Kraft’s lawsuit coming?

    This coming from a team who runs illegal contact at practice and has tied for failed ped test equals way more cheating then the pats. Oh wait who also has more super bowl titles oh that’s right the patriots. Even EA Sports mocks your team not running the ball.

  63. revren10 says:
    Jul 24, 2015 1:25 PM
    higheriqthanyou says:
    Jul 24, 2015 1:09 PM

    also can’t forget all the chemical enhancements his team has played with, they don’t call them the ped hawks for nothing
    ================

    This from the only team who has been caught cheating multiple times.

    LOL

    How’s Kraft’s lawsuit coming?

    This coming from a team who runs illegal contact at practice and has tied for failed ped test equals way more cheating then the pats. Oh wait who also has more super bowl titles oh that’s right the patriots. Even EA Sports mocks your team not running the ball.

    ===============

    This coming from a loser who needs to obsess over the Seahawks in order to forget what a bunch of cheating murderers his own team is comprised of.

  64. As a football fan, I can recognize that Wilson is a very good (near elite) QB who is in the perfect system and the team is better for it. The results speak for themselves. He’s vastly underpaid now and deserves a new contract. However, he’s nowhere elite and shouldn’t get Brees or Rodgers money, maybe Tannehill.

    That said, as a fan of a division rival team (49ers), I hope Seattle breaks the bank and signs him to the biggest football contract in history, ruins their salary cap which causes the team to trade/cut players and thus causing even more resentment in the locker room.

  65. jjackwagon says:
    Jul 24, 2015 9:05 AM
    “Wilson should take any offer the Seahawks make. Without Beastmode and that defense, he would be a nobody.”
    I think this comment is totally reversed from reality and what actually happened. Without Wilson Beastmode and that defense was nothing but potential. Just a 7 win 9 loss team that barely made the playoffs from a “horrible division” the year before Wilson got there. 3 years since his arrival and dynamic playmaking/leadership its been 3 straight playoff; 2 Super Bowls; 1 NFL Championship that should have been 2.

    With that said, I completely agree with Holmgren. Wilson should take the money and run as fast as he can. The Seahawks will restructure him anyway in 2 years when BeastMode and a few others part ways. Wilson is their catalyst, best player, Franchise player and everything else. He is the one guy the Seahawks can’t lose or replace! Or its back to sub 500 football for them. Just like Brady with the Patriots, Manning with Denver, Packers without Rodgers and etc.

    Some of these analysts are extremely biased. They and unfair Wilson critics in general need to get off the crack pipes they’re on. The guy is a game changer. And he completely changed the fortunes of that franchise. And the statistics confirm it. None other than the great Fran Tarkenton claimed Wilson as one of the top 3 QBs in the NFL today. I agree with him!

  66. I think the biggest question is whether the offer is a 20 million a year extension that includes 20 million in 2015 or just 20 million a year from 2016 and beyond.

    example: they could do a 100 million 4 year extension now, which is essentially the same as letting him play this year at 1.5 and then do a 4 year 100 million new contract for 25 million a year. That would average out to just over 20 million a year over 5 years. I think that is fair.

    If the offer is an 80 mil four extension then it is a bad offer for Wilson. If he is trying to get the next 5 years up to 25 mil a year it’s a bad deal for the hawks.

  67. @revren10 guess you commenting on *every* article means you need to cover up for your boy at all costs. Talk about a man-crush…hope he’s giving you some kicks.

  68. First of all, I truly believe that if Russell were 3 inches taller, he would get the money he is asking for.

    Second, I find it amazing that people have a problem with how Russell is handling this. The Seahawks made him an offer and he has given his counter-offer and the two sides have not come to an agreement. Russel is not even threatening a holdout like a Darrelle Revis. He is actually saying that if he and the Seahawks cannot come to an agreement, he will simply play out the season and see where things are next year.

    When a man stands up for himself and respectfully disagrees with what another party is offering in a negotiation for a future contract and is still willing to honor his current contract, then I see no reason to be upset with him. If he is willing to play out this year at $1.5 million, then more power to him.

  69. Wilson is nothing without Lynch and the defense? Marshawn was on the team for a couple years before Wilson and not many knew who he was. Seattle’s defense wasn’t recognized until the same year Wilson started. It looks to me like someone could make the case that Wilson made them great and not the other way around.

  70. This coming from Mr Team-first guy. Didn’t Holmgren leave the Packers to prove to everyone he could be as successful without Ron Wolfe? How’d that work out, Mike? About as successful as you Minoxidal endorsement deal.

  71. Wilson is a better playoff QB than Rodgers.
    Id take Brady, Flacco, Rothlisberger, Romo, Wilson, and even Cutler before I take Rodgers, Luck, Brees, Manning.

    Some people are just plain stupid.
    Even playing for a rival I can say I would take Rodgers over probably any QB out there except Luck. Rodgers is a great QB.

  72. Wilson is 4 wins 5 losses in games where his passer rating is below 66.7. Which should be considered a bad game.
    For reference Rogers is 1-6, Manning is 8-24, and Rivers is 6-12

    Yeah, Wilson is great, the team never bails him out. Or they do, almost 1/2 the time.

  73. For all yall who says Russell Wilson is not worth the money is super stupid this dude is a 5″11 quarterback who wasn’t even supposed to smell a Super Bowl yet alone in his second year and win . NFC championship, Super Bowl , Super Bowl, cmon pay the dude. And he did all this with below standard receivers . It’s all him Marshawn and that defense period

  74. We don’t yet know how good Russell Wilson really is. It’s easy to call him a system QB because he does what he’s told to do and runs a power run offense smartly. He doesn’t have the elite pass catchers the other “Elite” QB’s have, and if the power run isn’t broke, don’t fix it. He’s playing to win games, not pad stats, and even with that limitation he’s put up some of the greatest stats of any QB in his first 3 years.

    But unleashed and allowed to pass like Brees or Brady with the good weapons he’ll have this year will actually show his true worth. Based on what I’ve seen him do with the decent, but not great WR and TE’s Seattle’s had in the past, I’m excited to see what he can do with Jimmy Graham and Chris Matthews (If he plays like the first half in the SB).

    I hope he signs next week, but if he has the kind of season I think he can have, he may earn the title of highest paid and will get it from someone soon enough.

  75. “RW should play for the $1.5M this year and bet on himself. What could possibly go wrong?”
    — Matt Barkley

  76. Overrated says:
    Jul 24, 2015 3:51 PM
    Wilson is a better playoff QB than Rodgers.
    Id take Brady, Flacco, Rothlisberger, Romo, Wilson, and even Cutler before I take Rodgers, Luck, Brees, Manning.

    spurtnorcal says:
    Some people are just plain stupid.
    Even playing for a rival I can say I would take Rodgers over probably any QB out there except Luck. Rodgers is a great QB

    Rodgers is not very good when it really matters. His last game vs Seattle he had 178YDS 1TD 2 INT 8-3&OUT He also missed a very easy TD to Jordy he couldnt score from inside the 1 yd line 2times in the 1st qtr and was less effective in the 2nd half. Ok so delete this comment moderator

  77. NFL players rated only 4 quarterbacks ahead of Wilson, 22nd best player in the league.

    They rated Wilson ahead of Brees and Rothelsberger, for example.

    So whether he’s “elite” or not is pretty subjective. But in any case, he’ll get paid like he’s elite when he hits free agency. There hasn’t been someone of his caliber available in free agency for a long long time.

  78. I have no clue as to what is being offered or requested. Every reference to the contract has been in terms of an extension. To understand the contract, you should add the $1.5 million for this coming year to the amount of the extension.

    For example, a $80 million 4 year extension, the average for the next five years would be $16.3 million per year. That’s less than Alex Smith’s contract average of $17 million.

    Wilson’s contract has been an absolute bargain; under $3 million for 4 years. Consider that the Seahawks were willing to pay Matt Flynn $10 million when Wilson got under a half million. Backup QB Tavaris Jackson was making 3 – 5 time what Wilson was. Right or wrong, Wilson is expecting some consideration for his very low pay and high results.

    Maybe the resolution between the parties should be a full restructure of the current contract replaced by a new five year contract.

  79. If they sign him for more than $15M/year, the Seahawks will regret it the year after the team misses the playoffs because their defense is no longer as dominant as it has been the past three years.

    This is a good team, no doubt. RW is a decent QB for them, but he is not elite and will not command an elite salary until he can put up the passing numbers that elite QBs can put up. Period.

    Like I said, it’s a good team. It’s a complete team. RW is not what makes this team great; the defense (mainly) and the running game is what makes them great. If the Seahawks overpay him, they will not be able to pay their other star players as well, and those ProBowl players will find better money elsewhere. Eventually, the team will be hurt overall, and then the Seahawks will regret giving RW that kind of money.

  80. RegisHawk says:
    Jul 24, 2015 2:31 PM

    @revren10 guess you commenting on *every* article means you need to cover up for your boy at all costs. Talk about a man-crush…hope he’s giving you some kicks.

    So your saying you scan every article to see if I comment on it, damn I’m renting space in your mind.

  81. Holmgren shod tell Arron Rodgers to give some money back to the Packers after his performance against the Seahawks.
    178 YDS 1TD 2INT 8-3&OUT
    COULDNT SCORE ON 6 TRIES INSIDE 2YD LINE
    MISSED TD TO JORDY
    AND HE TRIPPED OVER HIS OWN FOOT ONCE TOO.

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