Gregg Williams says bounties weren’t about inflicting injuries

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Former Saints coordinator Gregg Williams used a bounty system in New Orleans and, allegedly, elsewhere. Over the past three years, Williams hasn’t said much about his role in the case, which included cartoonish urgings of violence against 49ers players prior to a postseason game in January 2012.

Recently, Williams talked about the situation, emphasizing the disconnect between tough talk and deliberate attempts to inflict injury on an opponent.

Via Scout.com, Williams (who now serves as the Rams defensive coordinator) discussed the situation at length during an interview with Mike Claiborne of KMOX radio in St. Louis.

“That was a difficult year in a lot of ways because there was a lot of information that was misinformation that got out and I’m the only person in the whole deal that never said anything,” Williams said. “I never said a word. Everybody got out there and pushed their information one way or the other and I didn’t.”

That said, Williams testified in the hearing regarding player suspensions, at one point claiming he tried to stop the bounty program but that Saints assistant head coach/linebackers Joe Vitt insisted that it continue.

“One of the things was it was on my watch, but there was nothing that hasn’t been done in the last 50 years in the sport and there was nothing done to try to hurt somebody,” Williams said. “There was never done with anybody trying to injure somebody. I’ve said this before, I take a look at all these high school programs, little league programs, college programs and you see the decals on the side of the helmet and you wonder, you get those decals because you shake hands and kiss after the game or you get those decals because you rushed for 100 and you threw 17 touchdown passes and you knocked the stuffing out of somebody?

“I remember over at Excelsior Springs when I’m 16 years old I had a big hit in a ballgame and all of a sudden I got a movie certificate and it wasn’t because I helped the guy up, it’s because I knocked the guy down. It’s just one of those things that we’re always trying to find little bitty advantages in sport and it was unfairly and uncharacteristically portrayed the wrong way.”

Williams has a point, although he’s the last guy who should be making it, given the over-the-top ravings encouraging defensive players to target former 49ers like Alex Smith, Frank Gore, Michael Crabtree, and Kyle Williams for blows to the chin, head, and knee. Still, the talk apparently was just talk, aimed at getting players properly motivated to play hard — not to get them to deliberately inflict injury through illegal hits.

Three years later, bounty systems in pro football are either gone or kept tightly under wraps. But players still have a clear motivation to hit opponents so hard that they can’t continue to play, because putting key players on the sidelines tends to help a team achieve its goal of winning games and, ultimately, championships.

63 responses to “Gregg Williams says bounties weren’t about inflicting injuries

  1. Saints won it all and I respect that. Doesn’t change the fact they got away with QB hits that would never fly today. Oh, and three fumbles and an INT by the visiting team. Sean Payton is such a genius, I’m sure his inspirational pregame speech about Favre’s age had more to do with that win than the four turnovers.

  2. Go away, Gregg. At least he’s now back with the coach that started the bounty programs. I’m looking at you, Fischer….

  3. “But players still have a clear motivation to hit opponents so hard that they can’t continue to play, because putting key players on the sidelines tends to help a team achieve its goal of winning games and, ultimately, championships.”

    Kind of irresponsible line here.

    Yes when a good player can’t play due to injury that helps your team if you’re playing them but don’t try and insinuate that the majority of these players would be happy delivering an injury causing and potentially career ending blow just to win a game because that’s simply not true.

    And to the people who do think it’s okay that’s why this whole situation happened. Gregg Williams shouldn’t even be in the league.

  4. This was the turning point for the players’ union in terms of suing the league. In this instance, the players had a real reason. The league had an initiative. At that time, there was a billion dollar lawsuit against the owners related to their knowledge of the long-term harm caused by football related injuries. The timing was perfect. It squarely placed the blame on the players and coaches and cast them as the aggressors who couldn’t be controlled – yet were the same style of players that the league had advertised in previous NFL videos for brutal hits.

    The NFL deserved every legal challenge that came their way during that time.

    And they are now suffering for the precedent it set.

    It made the players union more aware of its legal ability.

    And now, as fans. we are watching the impact of legal ability gone too far. We are watching the loss of control.

    The NFL can no longer manage itself because of its own missteps.

    It’s now accountable for judging off the field actions by players in advance of our legal system even determining the facts.

    And worst of all – it can no longer protect the game against cheating without the risk of future legal proceedings. But they did it to themselves. The potential deflategate legal proceedings are so absurd it defies logic. But the NFL brought this upon themselves.

  5. When teams put a “bounty” on Heinz Ward he smiled and said that’s what they should be doing, trying to crush me.

  6. I believe him when he says his intentions were different than what people were lead to believe. The bounty stuff was very unprofessional and we can all see that. If you don’t act like a professional as a DC in the NFL, don’t expect people to sympathize with you.
    Williams has always lacked professionalism; it’s why he lost the HC job in Washington (to of all people, Zorn).

  7. Right. He literally meant, “Go out and catch a snake and cut it’s head off and….”
    Lame, lame, lame!
    On your “watch”?
    Ya, I’d say so. More like upon your instigation, Coach.

    Nobody feels sorry for you and yes, others have done it many times but evidently hadn’t accrued so many enemies. Sorry Coach. Quit lying!

  8. “Williams has a point, although he’s the last guy who should be making it, given the over-the-top ravings encouraging defensive players to target former 49ers like Alex Smith, Frank Gore, Michael Crabtree, and Kyle Williams for blows to the chin, head, and knee”

    That’s where he crossed the line warranting the punishments. Identifying specific, vulnerable body parts to hit. I recognize he may not have wanted the players to have taken him literally, but that’s the risk you run when trying to work a bunch of twenty and thirty year olds into frenzies before a game in which they’re going out to hit the opposition as hard they can. Playing defense in the NFL doesn’t lend itself to a whole lot of independent thought.

    Exhort them all you want, just keep it within the rules. The fact that a segment of the coaching population may have been committing the same transgression for decades before is the entire point to the league’s actions. The practice needed to be stopped. Not only because it was the right thing to do, but former players are recovering millions upon millions of dollars from the league because the NFL purportedly didn’t save the players from themselves. Mission accomplished.

    While a lot of fans believe that Tagliabue exonerated the Saints when he lifted the punishment of the players, and that the coaches took a fall only because they aren’t part of a union, both impressions are categorically incorrect. The former commissioner found ample evidence of the program and that the accused players (with one exception) were willing participants. He simply felt that punishment–the first of its kind in the league–needed to start with the owner, team management, and the coaches. According to Tagiabue, punishing the players wouldn’t have been fair because they were following the directions of their employers.

  9. Based on the NFLs smear campaign on Brady, i will believe Gregg Williams over the NFL and BSPN any day of the week.

    Isnt the idea of defense, hit the guy as hard as you can, CLEANLY, to put fear in the offensive players?

  10. This is kind of what I assumed from the beginning. I don’t know how many times I’ve had a coach in any sport tell me to go kill/murder someone. And in the end, football is a sport where 300 pound men hit each other at 20 mph and most of these pros are motivated by money, so why not add that in to the equation.

  11. So he looked a reporter in the eye and basically said, “oh…that time when I told those guys to go out there and inflict bodily harm on the opponent? I didn’t really MEAN ‘inflict…bodily…HAAARM.’ I just meant go out there and play hard have a good game.”

    Astonishing.

  12. I still have mixed feelings about all this. Williams definitely said what he said and sounded like a psychopath. At the same time I watched a whole lot of Saints football that year and I just didn’t see a team bent on making cheap shots to put themselves over.

    There are still way too many defenders in this league that can go out there, dive at a guys knees or head because they’re afraid to play against them, and then retreat behind their fans. I’d rather those guys (Hi TJ Ward) get put on blast than pretending this all went away with a joke of an investigation.

  13. Gee, the NFL office and the almighty Godell releasing incorrect info to sway public opinion? Where have we heard that before?

  14. If you think Greg Williams did anything different from others DC’s you don’t know football, especially pro footfall. The Saints were among the least penalized teams during the so called Bounty Days. No evidence of any bounty system exist. The guy used those terms to motivate his players. If you look at any team during the year, you will see some hits that look dirty, but a pattern does not exist. When you hit someone and an unexplained glancing block occurs, or the guy you are tackling twist a bit, your tackle will not be where you intended it to be.

  15. Gregg Williams is a psychopath who should never again be allowed to coach. He didn’t just want people tackled, he wanted them injured. William’s insured everyone on that Saints defense knew what opposing players had concussions and head injuries, so they knew where to target. Disgusting.

    Get this guy out of the league.

  16. Okay – so let me get this strait — according to tthe punished coaches – there was no bounty system except that there was but there really wasn’t but yeah, there was but not like you think but not at all except for the one that wasn’t about hurting anyone one.

    Isn’t that the official story now?

  17. I thought this was common knowledge. Wasn’t a study done that showed the saints actually were in the bottom 5 in the league for number of opponents that left games due to injury during the bounty period? It was talk to get the defense fired up and to make hard legal hits. News flash the guy with the ball tries to avoid getting hit, while the defense tries to hit him as hard as possible. Not just hard enough to bring him down, but hard enough to where he may fumble or he may have a little doubt in his mind the next time he sees that same defender coming at him. It’s part of the game and always will be. That said, I understand the league wanting to keep the curtain closed to the public. No need for the uninformed or oblivious to see the whole truth. In an age where public figures get fired for hurting someone’s feelings, That would be bad for business.

  18. Look at the tape of last year’s game against the Giants. The cheap shots intending to INJURE Odell B. we’re alarming. Even Boomer Edison said he’s never seen a team go after a player like that. Williams does not belong in football. A coward you sits on the sidelines. A pig of an individual. Where are you Commissioner?

  19. The guy flat denied it even existed. Now he’s openly say it was there but we didn’t mean to hurt anybody. Why would anyone believe anything that comes out of his mouth?

  20. He’s a lying coward! The man not only DIDN’T stay quiet, he sang like a canary. And, he made sure the song was the one Roger requested. Gregg Williams left the country when Bountygate was really heating up and hid out while his former organization suffered the consequences of the things he encouraged. I firmly believe the Saints players did not try to illegally maim or injure anyone any more than players from other teams did, but unfortunately for them, they had a defensive coordinator who was willing to do and say anything to save his career at the expense of theirs. Even if it involved lying.

  21. Isnt the idea of defense, hit the guy as hard as you can, CLEANLY, to put fear in the offensive players?

    That’s what I was taught. Make the other kid afraid next time he sees you coming.

  22. bmacwillconn says:Jul 25, 2015 8:15 AM
    Gregg Williams is a psychopath who should never again be allowed to coach. He didn’t just want people tackled, he wanted them injured. William’s insured everyone on that Saints defense knew what opposing players had concussions and head injuries, so they knew where to target. Disgusting.
    Get this guy out of the league.
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    This is everything wrong with America right now. Morality internet police. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you never played football? In high school we used to get little stickers on our helmets for hard hits. Should my “disgusting psychopathic coach” also be punished? What gives you the right to say who does and doesn’t deserve a job?
    Not only that the article itself states that’s exactly not what Gregg Williams wanted. People who, when presented with information that disproves their own viewpoint, entrench themselves further in their own viewpoint are among the lowliest and least intelligent members of society.

  23. “KIll the head and the body will die.” Your exhortations are sick. Even now you see fans wishing Brady get maimed so their teams will have the chance to win. Your goal and feelings are not different from those and you’re a freaking coach. You try stop the bounty program? So it existed then. The head get damage and the body becomes a vegetable. That’s what concussion does. “Misinformation”. That is what you are saying now. Despicable low life.

  24. So now we are bringing up the Snowplow Game??? HILARIOUS. Pats were the worst team in the league by far then. And NONE of the same people were even involved.

    What a reach!

  25. I believe every single defensive coordinator in the NFL has given a similarly aggressive speech to his team in the heat of the moment before a big game. I know I’ve heard a bunch of them in locker rooms throughout my life. Williams biggest mistake was allowing it to be filmed in the naive belief that the video wouldn’t get out.

    As for the bounties, I don’t care whether they were for injuries or just big hits, they’re illegal and the penalties were justified.

  26. mrlaloosh says: Jul 25, 2015 1:46 AM
    Go away, Gregg. At least he’s now back with the coach that started the bounty programs. I’m looking at you, Fischer…
    .
    mrlaloosh,
    Try to find two brain cells that you can rub together and think about who “Fisher” worked for, both with the Bears and Eagles. Who both coached and mentored him, then think about your post. I know, we are breaking new ground here….

  27. I don’t know if any of you played football competively at a high level but anyone who has will tell you that the goal of any defensive player, especially those rushing the QB, is to hit the opposing player so hard that they are knocked out of the game. Most don’t wish injury upon other players (your silly if you think that there aren’t players who do) but injuries are simply a part of the game.

    Just because the Saints had a pay for play system that rewarded players for “knockout hits” doesn’t necessarily mean that they were attempting to injury other players. I will say this though; when a 6-4 280 pound defensive end comes off the edge and runs through the quarterback at full speed what is the intent? Haha

  28. Bounty-gate was a farce used by Goodell to try and sell the masses on the big joke that “player safety” was a serious concern for the NFL and it’s owners.

    But we know this is crap because if player safety was really a concern the league wouldn’t have Thursday night games and wouldn’t continue to push the idea of the 18 game schedule.

  29. These guys got jobbed even worse than my Patriots. I was taught in one of my first full-contact practices when I was in my first year of Pop Warner “hit your opponent as hard you can. If he gets up, hit him harder until he doesn’t.” Physical punishment and intimidation is the very foundation of the sport. When I played semi pro, our whole defense would chip in a few bucks into a pool, and whoever of us got the biggest hit that game got the pot. If what the Saints and Williams did is illegal, then I don’t think I like this game as much as I thought I did. Toughness died at the close of the 20th century. Damn shame.

  30. That said, Williams testified in the hearing regarding player suspensions, at one point claiming he tried to stop the bounty program but that Saints assistant head coach/linebackers Joe Vitt insisted that it continue.

    I’m really a nice guy who, for the life of me, doesn’t understand why I was suspended, and accepted the suspension…I really am in the dark about this…

  31. I had more respect for Favre after that Vikings Saints game than ever before. They were diving at knees…..ankles….high low tackles…..late hits…no flags, and he still kept pushing. Most heart of all time.

  32. Now knowing and seeing the screwing the NFL is giving the Patriots I fully believe Bountygate was the NFL reaction to potential lawsuits and overblown

    Hehateme, really the snowplow game

    But watering the field to slow down other teams runners was ok?

    If you want to remember your glory days watch TV Land that will put you in the right time frame

    Loser

  33. What the Saints were doing was tantamount to the average office pool. The tough talk in the locker room never presented itself on the field. It was against the rules and rated some punishment. The penalties handed down were off-the-charts excessive.

    The hits that make us cringe now were SOP just a few years ago. The Saints were scapegoats.

  34. From the start, the Saints had two justifiable reasons for complaint with Goodell’s initial ruling:

    1. They were unfairly singled out by the NFL for a practice that’s been fairly commonplace around the league for decades;

    And 2. The punishments were too severe, particularly in the case of the players.

    Tagliabue agreed on both fronts. He accused Goodell of administering sanctions that were “selective,” “ad hoc” and “inconsistent,” and cited precedents in each player’s case.

    Sounds like Goodell just never learns. You can say exactly the same thing about DeflateGate – except in this case all the evidence has been completely fabricated by the NFL and ignornant fans today still cite the lies that the NFL told about 11 of 12 balls being deflated 2psi – all lies

  35. “Little 32 we’re gonna knock the (explicitive) out of him!” “We want Frank Gores head sideways” “Crabtree needs to decide if he’s going to be a fake (explicitive) primadonna, he become human when you take out that outside ACL”

    -Gregg Williams before Saints-Niners game 2009. Look up the audio.

    Sorry Gregg, but I don’t believe you. “Take out that outside ACL” is pretty definitive to me.

  36. catquick says:
    Jul 25, 2015 3:15 AM

    He’s a liar. It was meant to hurt players.
    ————————————————–
    He actually didn’t lie. He very idiotically stated “It’s just one of those things that we’re always trying to find little bitty advantages in sport and it was unfairly and uncharacteristically portrayed the wrong way.”

    The real problem is it WASN’T unfairly and uncharacteristically portrayed the wrong way. It is what it is and Gregg Williams was not only a part of it with the Saints but did it with two other teams as well.

  37. I’m not sure what the debate is. Williams down right admitted it was going on back when he was interviewed during the investigation. If it wasn’t happening then why did he “try to get Joe Vitt to stop it”? Give me a break. It happened and he was the major reason why it was happening. If it was only in one place, that’s one thing. But it was in at least two other places as well.

  38. bostontdparty says:
    Jul 25, 2015 10:57 AM

    Now knowing and seeing the screwing the NFL is giving the Patriots I fully believe Bountygate was the NFL reaction to potential lawsuits and overblown
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    Maybe you should go back and listen to some of his audio and re-read his testimony. Then come back in here and tell us it was just an NFL reaction.

    Comparing Deflategate with Bountygate is ridiculous. The only part of the two that compare is that they both happened. If it didn’t then why didn’t Brady give up his cell phone? Why did the Patriots just accept the punishment? Yes, a lot of Wells report seems to be extremely questionable. But what was read from the equipment personnel cell phones were not fabricated and certainly gives question to Brady’s innocence. If he was innocent all he’d have to do is give the evidence. Simple as that.

  39. pats4rings says:
    Jul 25, 2015 9:56 AM

    Just because the Saints had a pay for play system that rewarded players for “knockout hits” doesn’t necessarily mean that they were attempting to injury other players.
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    That’s exactly what it meant. You just described what a “bounty” is then tried to justify it by contradicting yourself.

  40. pleasestopthesnow says:
    Jul 25, 2015 7:14 AM

    Based on the NFLs smear campaign on Brady, i will believe Gregg Williams over the NFL and BSPN any day of the week.

    Isnt the idea of defense, hit the guy as hard as you can, CLEANLY, to put fear in the offensive players?
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    Yes, the idea is to CLEANLY hit the guys on the other team. Unfortunately, the Saints didn’t play CLEANLY.

    What cracks me up is every Patriot fan coming into this thread now supporting Bountygate and comparing it to Deflategate. One has nothing to do with the other.

  41. ejmat2 says:Jul 25, 2015 11:46 AM

    pats4rings says:
    Jul 25, 2015 9:56 AM

    Just because the Saints had a pay for play system that rewarded players for “knockout hits” doesn’t necessarily mean that they were attempting to injury other players.
    ————————————————–
    That’s exactly what it meant. You just described what a “bounty” is then tried to justify it by contradicting yourself.
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    No! You still don’t understand the culture of football. In my high school we got a candy bar for a broken bone on the other team. No one went out of their way to break a bone because the reward was so miniscule but it encouraged us to play hard and hit hard. The “bounties” the Saints had were for 2500 dollars. When you’re making millions to play a game you’re not going to risk a 25k fine and possible suspension on a late hit for 2500 bucks.

    People who give their opinions on topics they have no clue about are among the lowliest and least intelligent members of a society.

  42. If that was the case, you wouldn’t have been suspended. You clearly were cheating by trying to hurt players just so you can win games. Oh, and you’re not that good of a D coordinator without the bounty that’s why you had to do it. Cheating=suspension+ban for life, which you should been.

  43. ejmat2 says:Jul 25, 2015 11:51 AM

    pleasestopthesnow says:
    Jul 25, 2015 7:14 AM

    Based on the NFLs smear campaign on Brady, i will believe Gregg Williams over the NFL and BSPN any day of the week.

    Isnt the idea of defense, hit the guy as hard as you can, CLEANLY, to put fear in the offensive players?
    ———————————
    Yes, the idea is to CLEANLY hit the guys on the other team. Unfortunately, the Saints didn’t play CLEANLY.

    What cracks me up is every Patriot fan coming into this thread now supporting Bountygate and comparing it to Deflategate. One has nothing to do with the other.
    —————————–
    Then explain how the Saints were one of the 5 teams least penalized during this time and how there is no data showing opponents of the Saints became more injured than any average football game. In fact, the data shows exactly the opposite! You were less likely to be injured in a game against the Saints than you were against your own Minnesota Vikings. Because of this data, I now deem it more probable than not that the Vikings had a bounty system in place that paid far more than the Saints to have accumulated all those injuries. Half the Vikings team is now suspended and you don’t get a first round draft pick. Sound fair?

    Bountygate and Deflategate do share similar qualities in that the NFL unfairly punished both teams. You’d have to be a moron to miss that obvious distinction.

  44. Half of you self righteous Bountygate Goodell supporters are the ones advocating taking Brady out with a cheap shot because he may of had knowledge of something that may of happened but probably didn’t…Hypocrites!

  45. Gregg Williams is the reason so many players and a coach were so badly damaged. Yes, Payton denied receiving an email that spelled it all out. He should have stopped it and was punished heavily for not doing that.
    The players should know better, but that was Williams’ baby.
    His locker room pep rallies were damning.
    The language he used; attack the head, attack the ACL, see about a guy with a concussion recently…those things were wrong.
    The players already know it’s a physical game and they need to hit harder than they get hit to be successful.
    That other stuff was not necessary.

  46. Ejmat2

    Can always spot the fans who didn’t play the game. There is a difference between being hurt and being injured. If I hit a QB with a devastating hit and he is hurt, either physically or mentally, and takes himself out of the game that is a win for my team. Football is a physical game and those who are mentally strong win out every time. When you play a physical game for 60 minutes your going to get hurt and you have to fight through it. Some don’t, it’s just the way it is. Now can these same devastating hits lead to injuries? Of course it’s football and it’s a violent collision sport.

    I will ask this again because people seem to have a hard time understanding this concept; when 6 foot 5 inch 290 pound man freak J.J. Watt beats a double team, runs full speed towards the QB, drives his shoulder into the QB’s numbers, and plants the QB into the turf what is his intentions? Haha, what do people think football is all about? Lawrence Taylor, Derick Thomas, Reggie White, Bruce Smith….. These men made a healthy living off of chasing down NFL QB’s with bad intentions.

  47. ejmat2
    “If he was innocent all he’d have to do is give the evidence. Simple as that.”

    Typical unintelligent internet lynch mob thoughts. If I’m innocent I shouldn’t have to give any evidence because I need to be proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, not ejmat2 read a news article not in my favor so his mind is made up. Media driven people like yourself who think that the innocent have a fountain of alibis ready to go at any given moment need to have a dose of the real world drop on you. But no, a 5 million dollar investigation and the NFL can’t even definitively say Brady knew that “something” was happening and you’re out attacking that person.

    Try to come up with any way to prove that you are not generally aware of something. You can’t, it’s impossible.

  48. People need to remember also that this isn’t your local in it to have fun everyone gets a trophy pop warner league or even a high school program where coaches are still dealing with young men; this is the NFL! These are grown men playing a violent sport for millions of dollars. Haha, if you think Greg Williams was the first and only DC to deliver this type of speech your just not in touch with reality.

  49. All of you defending what happened are blind pawns. Gregg Williams audio tape said “he becomes human when we take out that outside ACL” when speaking to his defense pregame against the Niners. I agree completely with aggressive hard hitting defense. I love hard hitting tough defenses. But when you start talking SPECIFICALLY about taking out a guys ACL, that’s a whole different ballgame. That audio tape was real. Recorded in real time. There is no denying he said those words. Pathetic that some of you would defend that, for whatever reason. A lot of you have a crusade vs. Goodell. Fine, the guy doesn’t know a thing and is the worst commissioner ever. But that doesn’t have anything to do with whether Gregg Williams and the Saints were wrong for intentionally trying to injure other players. Specifically an ACL which is commonly a career ender. Shame on you.

  50. pats4rings says:
    Jul 25, 2015 12:20 PM
    Ejmat2

    Can always spot the fans who didn’t play the game. There is a difference between being hurt and being injured. If I hit a QB with a devastating hit and he is hurt, either physically or mentally, and takes himself out of the game that is a win for my team. Football is a physical game and those who are mentally strong win out every time. When you play a physical game for 60 minutes your going to get hurt and you have to fight through it. Some don’t, it’s just the way it is. Now can these same devastating hits lead to injuries? Of course it’s football and it’s a violent collision sport.

    I will ask this again because people seem to have a hard time understanding this concept; when 6 foot 5 inch 290 pound man freak J.J. Watt beats a double team, runs full speed towards the QB, drives his shoulder into the QB’s numbers, and plants the QB into the turf what is his intentions? Haha, what do people think football is all about? Lawrence Taylor, Derick Thomas, Reggie White, Bruce Smith….. These men made a healthy living off of chasing down NFL QB’s with bad
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    Lol! You sit here and speak like you played the game. Maybe in high school. I know speeches happen all over the league every week that are similar to Gregg Williams. But his is over the top. They don’t talk about taking out someone ACL. Period. If you think that, you don’t know anything about the game. Rather, you are on an anti Goodell crusade because your poor little pats got caught cheating. You can’t read between the lines or you just choose not to. I expect defenses to knock around qbs as much as they can, and any other player for that matter, but they don’t talk about specific injuries to specific areas. You don’t know football. If anyone agrees with you on here, they are biased saints fans or fellow pat fans that are on the same anti Goodell crusade. He makes 50 million a year being the owners pawn, and the owners are happy with him, so he’s not going anywhere. Get used to it. And there is an asterisks next to every Pats SB, and the Saints SB as well.

  51. They TALKED, but they injured the second-least amount of players in the league from 2009-2011, only the Chargers injured less.

    He TALKED about injuring 49ers players, but the Saints got called for zero penalties and injured nobody in the actual game. What, the eeeeevil Saints players suddenly forgot where the head and knee is located on the body?

    Tough talk, little to no action. But to a commissioner who feared the concussion lawsuit going to court, send them down the river and sell a bill of goods to the fans. “Oh, but they TRIED,” somehow. Yeah, punish thoughtcrimes. Good one.

  52. By the way last I checked there are still zero asterisks next to the records of any of the Patriots Super Bowl seasons or the Saints Super Bowl season. Just wanted to clear that up.

  53. The game officials in that Vikings-Saints playoff game should have also been suspended indefinitely for incompetence. They repeatedly turned a blind eye to Williams’ encouraged defensive illegalities.

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