After Deflategate, NFL instructs refs to inspect footballs more closely

AP

NFL referees have been given detailed instructions for closely inspecting footballs in response to Deflategate.

In what former NFL head of officiating Mike Pereira terms “an overreaction” to the controversy, the NFL told officials this weekend that they will have to change the way they go about getting footballs ready for play.

Under the new rules, the referee will designate two members of his staff to inspect every football submitted by each team to make sure they’re inflated to between 12.5 PSI and 13.5 PSI. Any footballs that fall outside the prescribed specifications will be inflated or deflated to 13.0 PSI. The officials will also number each football submitted and keep a log of the level of inflation of each football.

The league is also giving additional responsibilities to the kicking ball coordinator and an onsite league security representative to make sure no one tampers with the game balls. At some randomly selected games, the league will also test the PSI levels of footballs at halftime and after the game.

That last part is important: Some defenders of the Patriots and Tom Brady have suggested that footballs could become partially deflated over the course of a game, and that the Patriots’ footballs in the AFC Championship Game were measured at under 12.5 PSI not because the Patriots deflated them but because they were measured after they had already been used in the game. Now the NFL’s halftime and post-game testing will determine to what extend footballs lose their pressure over the course of an NFL game.

It would really be something if these new procedures reveal that footballs routinely lose some air pressure during games, and that the whole Deflategate “scandal” was the result of nothing more than footballs losing a little air because they were used in a game.

225 responses to “After Deflategate, NFL instructs refs to inspect footballs more closely

  1. I hope the money the NFL spent figuring this out didn’t cost more than this post. Please let the real games begin…

  2. Yet every patriot fan screams innocent. Why have they fired their ball boys? Suspended the manager? Accepted their loss of draft picks and fine? And now the nfl is changing the procedures?

    Wise up folks. These are not the consequences of a coincidence. Cheat or not, these are the actions of the guilty

  3. While I am glad to see this new procedure being implemented it is basically an admission by the league that the previous procedures were inadequate.

    Lets hope it starts with an August exhibition game in Miami where the balls will inflate to a pressure greater than starting pressure

  4. These new procedures should work well for New England when they visit the Jets next year because the ref won’t be allowed to sabotage the Patriots game balls and overly inflate to 16 PSI.

    Ted Wells did not care about that factoid.

  5. “It would really be something if these new procedures reveal that footballs routinely lose some air pressure during games, and that the whole Deflategate “scandal” was the result of nothing more than footballs losing a little air because they were used in a game.”

    Ummm…hasn’t physics already revealed this?

  6. No enforcement of the Brady suspension until comparative data compiled during the 2015 season can be studied. If they want to fine him for not cooperating during the investigation, get it over with now and let us get on with the new season.

  7. “It would really be something if these new procedures reveal that footballs routinely lose some air pressure during games, and that the whole Deflategate “scandal” was the result of nothing more than footballs losing a little air because they were used in a game.”

    Actually, this is the result predicted by the ideal gas law. No big deal.

    It would really be something if the new procedures do not reveal footballs routinely lose air pressure during COLD WEATHER games. It would prove that NFL footballs are not subject to the laws of physics.

  8. This is such nonsense. It’s a simple fix, just allow the teams to inflate their own balls to whatever they want. Do it that way and there is no competitive advantage and the league doesn’t have to micromanage this stuff and the officials can concentrate on the important things.

  9. In the wake of all the protracted foolishness that is deflategate wouldn’t it be more of a story if they didn’t?

  10. This was a very needed process for the refs,to protect the integrity of the game ; however with that being said, I would not hold my breath that the psi will drop. Imho, Brady has been doing this for years!!!!!! Just connect the dots and use common sense in this little drama, people…smh.. Anyone who believes Belichick did not know, I have a bridge to sell you. Perhaps that is why Brady did not want to cooperate??? Those texts/calls would not show on the equipment employees phones, would they? He got off light, imo!!!

  11. “Some defenders of the Patriots and Tom Brady have suggested that footballs could become partially deflated over the course of a game,”

    or “people with a basic understanding of science and/or common sense”.

  12. These idiots are STILL ignoring the fact that balls will be warming up when brought into the locker room during halftime, thus biasing any reading due to the passage of time. The balls should be tested on the field to control for temperature. Its is beyond belief that this is still overlooked

  13. 3 new rules to fight pats cheating, just in this year:

    1. Closed loophole on illegal formations used to beat ravens
    2. new rule, “the edelman rule” to check for concussions during games
    3. Crackdown on inflation levels of footballs (duh)

    Looks like the pats superbowl should have 3 asterisks, not just one, LOL!

    of course, past year the PATS cheating have given us hits like defensive players getting helmet radios (in 2008 after spygate).

  14. It would really be something if these new procedures reveal that footballs routinely lose some air pressure during games, and that the whole Deflategate “scandal” was the result of nothing more than footballs losing a little air because they were used in a game.
    ———————————————–

    Yes and will take an act of congress to see the report after Goodell and his cronies bury any evidence that deflategate was a farce they wasted millions on.

    No that report will just disappear in the NFL offices with the Ray Rice video.

  15. This statement is ridiculous:

    “Some defenders of the Patriots and Tom Brady have suggested that footballs could become partially deflated over the course of a game…”

    It’s not “some defenders of the Patriots.” It’s SCIENCE that says balls will become deflated during the course of games that are played in conditions colder than the locker room. You don’t need to be a “defend of the Patriots” to think this. You need to believe in science. I would think this would be well known to anyone watching deflategate over the last six months!

  16. No amount of Disinformation or propaganda skewing the information away from the facts can change the fact that there are Text Messages that prove beyond a shadow of doubt that Brady conspired to cheat. There is no question what led to the deflated balls.. The only question remaining is how much self integrity others will sacrifice trying to protect Shady-Brady, Belicheat & the Patricheats!

  17. What good is that PSI will be measured at different points during the game? Goodell will just manufacture data conclusions to suit Irsay, Bisciotti. and owners of all the teams that can’t beat Belichick’s superior teams on the field. Indy is already plotting their next Patriots sting operation.

  18. Your last scenario about testing psi at half time will not reveal any more relative information if the refs consistently test the balls out on the field in the same environment.

    To test the Ideal Gas Law application and deflategate question about PSI drop, they would have to test them in a warm environment (75-78 degree Fahrenheit) and then test again at halftime out in the cold wintery environment.

    The NFL is not stupid. The fans and media are the intellectually challenged ones.

    Additionally, don’t look to the QBs to tell you anymore information because until deflategate they never once noticed that football pressure drops as ambient temperature drops even thought this has been happening all of their career.

  19. Did the pill-popping junkie owner of the Colts approve this new directive. You’d think Irsay would still be exhausted from throwing an entire season in the Suck for Luck campaign.

  20. The same official will have to make sure his gauge is properly calibrated and will be responsible for the same set of footballs before, at half time, and after the game, otherwise there is room for error. As Mike Pereira points out, they will have to do the measurements very quickly because they only have 12 minutes at half time to do everything including a first half debrief.

  21. “seatownballers says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:23 PM
    Yet every patriot fan screams innocent. Why have they fired their ball boys? Suspended the manager? Accepted their loss of draft picks and fine? And now the nfl is changing the procedures?

    Wise up folks. These are not the consequences of a coincidence. Cheat or not, these are the actions of the guilty”

    What does the Patriots innocence or guilt have to do with the NFL officials changing ball protocol? They are mutually exclusive.

    You’re clearly uninformed though so I would expect nothing less. Fired the ball boys? They were suspended at the behest of Troy Vincent, only to be reinstated under his order. Suspended the manager? Who is the manager? That doesn’t even make sense. Accepted their loss of draft picks and fines? What were their other choices? Kraft sue the league and risk losing his billion dollar franchise over 0.4 psi?

    Facts are hard to understand for those that only want to see the Patriots and Brady dragged through the mud.

  22. Why didn’t the NFL instruct the officials when they knew David Carr was doctoring footballs? They decide to do it now with the other NFL owners puppeteering Goodell.

  23. mark4steelers you are a mark for Pats haters. We all know TB likes his balls at league minimum.They were inflated inside then brought into a 20 or so degree day.Then they were immediately tested when they were brought in at halftime. The problem is the Colts balls weren’t tested til later. That is per witness accounts. So it is likely the cold caused the balls to be the way they were since the Colts balls were not tested til later we’l never know. Oh and most of the texts were in May well before the season

  24. When confronted with actual science facts and data Goodell and his cronies will look briefly confused before shouting –

    “Burn the witch at the stake !!! Burn the witch at the stake !!!”

  25. @markked4steel

    ” There are text messages that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Brady conspired to cheat ”

    Okay, what page of the Wells Report has the incriminating text messages?
    .

  26. The league will have the balls from Pats games tested by tying blocks of cement to the Pats balls but not to the other team’s, tossing them in a pool of water and the ones that float will be considered not to have been “deflated”

  27. “helmetcatch says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:32 PM
    3 new rules to fight pats cheating, just in this year:

    1. Closed loophole on illegal formations used to beat ravens
    2. new rule, “the edelman rule” to check for concussions during games
    3. Crackdown on inflation levels of footballs (duh)

    Looks like the pats superbowl should have 3 asterisks, not just one, LOL!

    of course, past year the PATS cheating have given us hits like defensive players getting helmet radios (in 2008 after spygate).”

    1. Formations were not illegal. Thats why the Patriots used them and were not penalized. Fail #1
    2. “Edelman rule” Yup, that was the first time a player potentially suffered a concussion in an NFL game and was not given a full exam instantly. It definitely did not happen to Russel Wilson in the NFC title game 2 weeks earlier. Fail #2
    3. Crackdown on inflation levels of footballs. Actually it was the Colts and Ravens that sparked this, as they were the ones that complained about it. And it was never proven to have even happened, all we really learned is that the NFL doesn’t bother to enforce the PSI rule as strictly as people may have hoped or assumed. Fail #3

    None of these rule changes are the product of Patriots cheating, they are the product of losers complaining. Remember when the Colts got the rule changed about contact with receivers 5 yards past the line of scrimmage? Was that cheating even though it was perfectly legal? How about the Tuck Rule change, which was enforced exactly as the NFL rulebook stated? Pats fault again? Oh spygate, right, the Pats were the first and only team to ever record and attempt to decipher signals, Bill Cowher, Jimmy Johnson and Mike Shanahan definitely didn’t come out and say they did the exact same things.

    Remember when football was a sport played between men? Whatever happened to that? Its turning into Desperate Housewives or the Bachelor with all the backstabbing and crying by teams and fans that lose to the Patriots. Unbelievable. When the Patriots lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl twice, did you see any excuses, complaints or rule changes? NO! The Pats win and lose like men, which simply cannot be stated about many other organizations.

  28. helmetcatch says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:32 PM
    3 new rules to fight pats cheating, just in this year:

    1. Closed loophole on illegal formations used to beat ravens
    2. new rule, “the edelman rule” to check for concussions during games
    3. Crackdown on inflation levels of footballs (duh)

    Looks like the pats superbowl should have 3 asterisks, not just one, LOL!

    of course, past year the PATS cheating have given us hits like defensive players getting helmet radios (in 2008 after spygate).
    ——————————————–

    LMAO….Embrace the hate

  29. A good place to start is with the guy who places the football down at the line of scrimmage to start the next down.

  30. Is there anything in the new procedures that require the pressure gauges to be calibrated?

    You know, so, like, all this measuring ‘n stuff might actually produce some usable data?

  31. The next step will be the announcement exonerating Brady completely of any wrongdoing.

  32. kevo95 says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:48 PM

    Only the patriots balls should be checked
    Cheaters

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    What will you do when the footballs tested conform to the predictions of the Ideal Gas Law? And that when compared to the data from the AFCCG, there is agreement between the data sets?

    You’re salty already, what will you be like then?

  33. When is Ted Wells going to investigate the footballs supplied to the Patriots during the Jets game that were inflated to 16.0 PSI?

    C’mon – According to ESPN the “Independent” Ted Wells ha been paid $45 million in total for his NFL work by Goodell

    Anyone think he’s going to issue a report that makes Goodell and the NFL look bad? Instead he’ll do what he’s told for that money

    But the ACTUAL over-inflation of footballs provided to the Patriots in the Jets game is a MUCH more serious issue than the FICTIONAL under-inflated footballs used by BOTH the Colts and the Patriots (though the NFL doesn’t care about Colts under-inflated footballs for some reason too)

  34. After all the mumbo-jumbo about ideal gas laws, the second law of thermodynamics and the gravity of Jupiter’s third moon, it really boils down to the simple points. Facts so simple I can’t believe nobody points them out more.

    During last spring’s investigation, Tom Brady makes the following quote:

    “I didn’t know who Jim McNally was so I find it hard to believe I could bring that up,” he said, according to the report.

    Yet in an October 17, 2014 text, equipment-manager Jastremski differs just a wee bit from Tommy’s take on things. After receiving a text from locker-room comrade McNally starting with the words “Tom sucks…” Jastremski offers the following:

    “Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done.”

    Gee, how could someone who has no idea who McNally is, “bring him up”? Pretty strange, huh?
    And remember, this was back in the fall of last year.

    Oops, seems someone’s been caught in a wee little fib.

    And you wonder why the Wells Report says there is “probable cause” to suspend.

    It’s there and it’s obvious. Of course, I’d still like a member of the Pats Fan Spin Brigade take a crack at explaining this one away…

  35. SUMMER HELP WANTED : 8th Grade Science Student Preferred

    Deflation due to the elements of Cold Weather from Nature/Science/Ideal Gas Law has EXPOSED Goodell & Well$ as FRAUDS.

    What has not been discussed is the obvious dilemma for the NFL from the other end of the Thermometer.
    Footballs inflated/deflated in an Air Conditioned Room at 68 degrees with the games played in Miami, Phoenix, San Diego, Oakland, Houston or Tampa Bay with outdoor temperature around 90 degrees, added to that the footballs BAKING in the Sun could raise their temperature close to 100 degrees. PSI of those footballs at Half Time would be well over 13.5 psi. Possibly as high as 17.5 psi.
    The result of Science would continue the embarrassment of Goodell & the NFL. It will also solidify Brady’s innocence by highlighting two Monumental Facts:
    #1.) No Evidence of Deliberate Rule 17 violation
    #2.) Ideal Gas Law ( Weather = Wind Rain Cold Heat ) CONTROLS the fluctuation of psi levels of footballs during any given NFL football game. Sometimes causing Deflation below 12.5 psi and other times causing Inflation above 13.5 psi.

    Who will be the next 8th Grade Science student that will teach the NFL that SCIENCE really does matter and TRUMPS Deflation due to Hearsay, Jealousy & Slander.

  36. This is directed more towards the ref that spots the ball after each play. My gosh, this ding dong couldn’t tell there was a difference?

  37. PSI drop is NOT because the footballs are used in a game, it is because ON A COLD DAY, THEIR TEMPERATURE DROPS.

  38. “Only the patriots balls should be checked
    Cheaters”

    You must be a Pack fan since Rodgers is on record saying he has the Green Bay ball attendants overinflate the balls beyond 13.5 psi in hopes of getting them by the refs.

    Which obviously has happened at least some of the time or he wouldn’t have the attendants doing that.

    Or how about the Vikes and who was it the Panthers I think heating their balls on the sideline in front of gas heaters on a very cold day.

    But its not the Pats so there’s nothing wrong with either of those things the other teams did, even though they violate the rules too.

  39. peytonwantsaflag says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:28 PM

    This is such nonsense. It’s a simple fix, just allow the teams to inflate their own balls to whatever they want. Do it that way and there is no competitive advantage and the league doesn’t have to micromanage this stuff and the officials can concentrate on the important things.

    ___________________

    I’m behind this idea 100%. It would be a wise solution.

    But, now that Goodell has allowed this little drama to take on a life of it’s own instead of diffusing it with this simple solution, the league has to double down on this micromanagement chore in order to save face. Missed opportunity to simplify ref involvement.

  40. One simple rule solve this:
    Do not allow team employees to steal balls from officials locker room and take into the bathroom.
    I’m still really pissed that my team did this!
    WAS NOT NECESSARY!

  41. straightfactshomie says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:54 PM

    ….all we really learned is that the NFL doesn’t bother to enforce the PSI rule as strictly as people may have hoped or assumed. Fail #3

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    A.) The NFL does not have a written scientific based protocol for REGULATING Rule 17

    B.) The NFL Refs have NEVER been properly trained to Officially REGULATE Rule 17

    C.) The NFL has NEVER, again NEVER, Officiated Rule 17 footballs according to Rule 17 because they REFUSED to understand and apply SCIENCE that REGULATES football PSI regardless of who dose not agree with it.

    D.) A, B & C combined resulted in an attempt by the NFL to Defame a QB & the team he plays for because Brady is just too good & priviledged to have four SB Rings and played in six.

    E.) A, B, C & D leaves us where we are now, still being lied to by Goodell and his refusal to accept A, B, & C = F = Federal Lawsuit = G = Good By Goodell

  42. Remember when football was a sport played between men? Whatever happened to that? Its turning into Desperate Housewives or the Bachelor with all the backstabbing and crying by teams and fans that lose to the Patriots. Unbelievable. When the Patriots lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl twice, did you see any excuses, complaints or rule changes? NO! The Pats win and lose like men, which simply cannot be stated about many other organizations.
    _____________________________

    Right on brother. Embrace the Hate!

  43. They will randomly test footballs from warm weather games and dome stadiums, and then post those for consumption.
    If they have the guts to test in cold weather games, I only hope that there are witnesses so that the league can’t fudge the numbers.

  44. Now all my fellow Pats fans will thumbs down this….
    Which I guess means that you should be able to take the balls into the bathroom. (only 1 in the stadium that has no video cameras)
    Makes perfect sense.

  45. At 45-7, I’m pretty sure the Pats’ balls were a bit more “used” than the Colts’ balls were.

  46. JoeSixPack, it is best for Tom Brady and your side to stop drawing attention to the balls being over inflated. See Brady is saying it is impossible for him to be involved in this because he doesn’t know the procedures after he selects the game balls. And even if the ball is altered after that, he couldn’t tell the difference. That text proves he does know the procedures and he can tell the difference. He knew which two guys to go off on. Makes him look really bad.

  47. Microchips inside the balls will provide real time monitoring of fluctuations with spikes signifying possible tampering. Additional surveillance technologies include more cameras, Brinks distribution and delivery, and background checks.

  48. Hmm, hold officials accountable for fair play. This ones about 6 months too late. Tag would’ve exiled a couple of officials by now.

  49. This is a mess of Goodell’s own making and it is now clear that they are just doubling down on the stupidness.

    So this off season there were 3 different team related issues – the balls in New England, texting by Cleveland and pumping noise into the stadium in Atlanta. I wonder when the league is going to issue new rules aimed at protecting against those sorts of violations?

    Ball inflation does not seem like it is that big of an issue – just see Brady’s #’s in the second half of the AFC Championship as proof, and the texting seems like it would be more of a distraction to the coaches during a game, but pumping in crowd noise could be a huge benefit to the home team – it would probably make more sense to actually look at adding rules to control things that actually matter.

    Perhaps the next time that Jim Irsay calls to complain about the Patriots Goodell could raise this issue.

  50. ampatsisahypocrite says:

    Gee, how could someone who has no idea who McNally is, “bring him up”? Pretty strange, huh?
    And remember, this was back in the fall of last year.

    ————————————————

    Jastremski and McNally have both said the conversation about stress was about someone else, not Brady. Do you think Brady spends any time worrying about the stress level of a guy whose job is to properly inflate the footballs?

  51. Great, about time. Isn’t this an admission that no one cared about this rule until it went against the Patriots. Given the lack of proper controls/protocols, how can any team be punished like the Patriots were?

  52. It’s a shame the NE patriots have to cheat in such rediculous ways. Inspect the balls closely but NE has a dozen other cheating tricks up their cut off sleeves.

  53. So the texts from brady to jm and jj were what, making sure the balls were inflated to 13.0 psi?

  54. 3 OUT OF THE 4 COLTS BALLS MEASURED BELOW 12.5 PSI & WERE LOWER PSI MEASUREMENTS THAN SOME OF THE PATRIOS BALLS

    …But no one wants to talk about that

  55. limakey says:
    Jul 26, 2015 4:35 PM

    JoeSixPack, it is best for Tom Brady and your side to stop drawing attention to the balls being over inflated. See Brady is saying it is impossible for him to be involved in this because he doesn’t know the procedures after he selects the game balls. And even if the ball is altered after that, he couldn’t tell the difference. That text proves he does know the procedures and he can tell the difference. He knew which two guys to go off on. Makes him look really bad.”””

    On top of that. The text exchanges referring to Tom and prepping the ball they tell NFL security in their interviews it is not Brady but someone else named Tom.

  56. Just an attempt by the league to make it look like a “fair and unbiased” process. They will wait a year and then falsify the numbers to say look all the balls end up gaining pressure so the Pats must have REALLY cheated.

  57. Just an attempt by the league to make it look like a “fair and unbiased” process. They will wait a year and then falsify the numbers to say look all the balls end up gaining pressure so the Pats must have REALLY cheated.

  58. That does sound much simpler than having the refs inflate the balls and having an NFL official walk them out to the field…..

  59. The real scandal is reveled.

    The Ravens and Colts, after getting pounded by the Patriots on the field of battle, conspired with suits in the NFL offices in New York to invent deflategate, investigate it, decide guilt, penalize the Patriots and their best player, and then arbitrate Brady’s appeal.

    So much for the “integrity of the game” mantra coming out of the NFL offices in New York.

    Free Brady

    Jail Irsay

  60. The Pathetics science suggest that the later teams balls will show a 3 to 1 margin for the highest changes in measurements. Will the Brady jock strap carrying chowda headed tin foil hatters club really be sitting on the edge of their seats waiting on this outcome?

  61. Do you haters realize that SCIENCE:
    1.) does not care who you are
    2.) how poor or wealthy you are
    3.) what team you play for or are a fan of
    4.) OWNS every football at every game at ALL TIMES
    5.) Operates the way it was designed ALL the TIME
    6.) Is often taken to court to expose the LIARS
    7.) Makes FOOLS of the ignorant

    Yet, somehow, Goodell & the Haters feel they can by-pass SCIENCE to Frame & Slander an innocent QB.

  62. What’s more interesting than the actual deflategate matter, is the fascinating disinformation campaign being waged on behalf of the Patriots. Really classic disinformation techniques to say the least. (i.e. attacking anyone who disagrees with them, coming up with pages and pages of irrelevant “proof”, etc.)

    (For more information on DISINFORMATION techniques, just Google DISINFORMATION. It’s very educational.)

  63. “It would really be something if these new procedures reveal that footballs routinely lose some air pressure during games, and that the whole Deflategate “scandal” was the result of nothing more than footballs losing a little air because they were used in a game.”

    ============

    Or that just the Pats’ balls magically deflate due to no fault of their own.

  64. Can we stop!? I use to hate the Pats! Now I love them. I see the NFL is wrongfully going after them. Go Pats

  65. straightfactshomie says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:54 PM

    When the Patriots lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl twice, did you see any excuses, complaints or rule changes? ”

    ROTFLMAO!!!! Hell YEAH I did! No rule changes (why should there be?), but TONS of complaints and excuses. Pats fans do not give the Giants credit for the win. Dont act like they do.

  66. pbinpb57 says:
    Jul 26, 2015 4:26 PM

    Remember when football was a sport played between men? Whatever happened to that? Its turning into Desperate Housewives or the Bachelor with all the backstabbing and crying by teams and fans that lose to the Patriots. Unbelievable. When the Patriots lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl twice, did you see any excuses, complaints or rule changes? NO! The Pats win and lose like men, which simply cannot be stated about many other organizations.
    ==========

    Great points except for the nasty little fact that the Pats keep getting caught cheating.

    Serial style.

    Pats could simply stop cheating but I’m afraid the fans wouldn’t like the “ex-cheating” results.

  67. The NFL, as usual, creates a symbolic rule. Nowhere do I see anything about using standardized gauges, recording temperatures (outside and inside), the time of the measurement, etc. This is all designed to make you THINK the NFL now cares about PSI, rather than actually collect meaningful data.

  68. sbaltimore says:
    Jul 26, 2015 5:21 PM
    What’s more interesting than the actual deflategate matter, is the fascinating disinformation campaign being waged on behalf of the Patriots. Really classic disinformation techniques to say the least. (i.e. attacking anyone who disagrees with them, coming up with pages and pages of irrelevant “proof”, etc.)
    (For more information on DISINFORMATION techniques, just Google DISINFORMATION. It’s very educational.)

    ==================

    Before you google “disinformation,” Mr. Sbaltimore, you might want to use your dictionary on the same word. You see, when people who have arrived at a preconceived judgment decide to ignore the facts, what they have to say is not “information.” And when others respond by actually discussing the facts, it is not “disinformation.”

    Perhaps you went to a school where science was treated as disinformation, not as information?

  69. “At some randomly selected games, the league will also test the PSI levels of footballs at halftime and after the game.”

    i.e.-All 16 Patriot games will be your “randomly” selected games, and no one else’s team will get even a bat of an eyelash.

  70. tbisgod says:
    Jul 26, 2015 4:29 PM

    Now all my fellow Pats fans will thumbs down this….
    Which I guess means that you should be able to take the balls into the bathroom. (only 1 in the stadium that has no video cameras)
    Makes perfect sense.

    Are you saying that the bathrooms at Gillette Stadium have cameras in them?

  71. realitycheckbaby says:
    Jul 26, 2015 5:28 PM

    pbinpb57 says:
    Jul 26, 2015 4:26 PM

    Remember when football was a sport played between men? Whatever happened to that? Its turning into Desperate Housewives or the Bachelor with all the backstabbing and crying by teams and fans that lose to the Patriots. Unbelievable. When the Patriots lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl twice, did you see any excuses, complaints or rule changes? NO! The Pats win and lose like men, which simply cannot be stated about many other organizations.
    ==========

    Great points except for the nasty little fact that the Pats keep getting caught cheating.

    Serial style.

    Pats could simply stop cheating but I’m afraid the fans wouldn’t like the “ex-cheating” results.
    —————————-
    Serial style?

    “Spygate” wasn’t cheating, and there is no evidence of cheating in “deflategate” either.

  72. This whole situation is the biggest crock and the biggest farce I’ve ever seen in my life. To me, it just shows further evidence of a sting operation against the Patriots. The NFL knew that QBs for years were getting away with stuff regarding PSI inflation, as Aaron Rodgers admitted when he said he over-inflated his footballs, yet the NFL didn’t care and the NFL NEVER even bothered to test footballs for PSI inflation during a game in it’s HISTORY until the Patriots/Colts game. If the NFL thought PSI inflation between 12.5 and 13.5 was so important, wouldn’t they have been curious about testing footballs during games to see if the footballs deflated? What a joke. The NFL has no clue how much footballs deflate during games and they DIDN’T CARE until the Patriots were involved. Then it becomes a sting, a fix and an agenda. How the hell would the NFL even know if the Patriot balls were illegal? When the balls were tested at halftime, they did NOT show they had been tampered with.

  73. For every poster that says they should of been more stricter before this needs to realize they wouldn’t have to do it at all if cheaters would be kicked out of the league.

  74. The Patriots cheating is like a leaky boat, you plug one leak thinking you’ve got it stopped and next thing you know you detect another leak. Word to the NFL, they’ve moved on from deflating footballs. On to the next cheat!

  75. I agree with those who basically say throw out the PSI rule. QBs can otherwise rough up the balls to their liking, so why was there ever a narrow PSI rule anyway?
    And yes… PV=nRT … still.
    This whole fiasco should tell you that the NFL did little or no due diligence when they instituted the PSI rule.

    BTW, What happens to the PSI when Gronk spikes the ball?

  76. The funny thing is that after this week, we know it’s the Ravens and Colts owners pushing for the Brady suspension.

    Which does lend credence to that story that this is a three-way setup between the Ravens, Colts, and the NFL front office – and a shoddy one at that, which is why this is such a joke.

    As a Texans fan I’d love to see Indy taken down a little, but it’s probably just Irsay not realizing that Indy doesn’t beat good teams. They’re good at clobbering the Texans, Titans, and Jags for six easy wins a year, but they’re helpless against teams with talent on both sides of the ball.

    Hell, last year the Browns held down the Colts and gave them an old-school beating. I’m amazed that Irsay hasn’t tried to get Cleveland charged with something yet.

  77. If the half time testing during the 2015 NFL season shows that balls routinely, and non-uniformly, lose pressure consistent with what happened in the AFC championship game does anyone actually think the league would release that information?

  78. “At some randomly selected games, the league will also test the PSI levels of footballs at halftime and after the game.”

    “i.e.-All 16 Patriot games will be your “randomly” selected games, and no one else’s team will get even a bat of an eyelash.”

    And, the NFL will ‘Doctor the Numbers’ so that they conclude Science is wrong and they were right.

  79. Great points except for the nasty little fact that the Pats keep getting caught cheating.

    Serial style.

    Pats could simply stop cheating but I’m afraid the fans wouldn’t like the “ex-cheating” results.
    _____________________

    Embrace the hate!

  80. “helmetcatch says:
    Jul 26, 2015 5:27 PM
    straightfactshomie says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:54 PM

    When the Patriots lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl twice, did you see any excuses, complaints or rule changes? ”

    ROTFLMAO!!!! Hell YEAH I did! No rule changes (why should there be?), but TONS of complaints and excuses. Pats fans do not give the Giants credit for the win. Dont act like they do.”

    I’m obviously not talking about fans. Fans will complain about anything and make excuses for anything (take a look in the mirror if you’re wondering what I’m talking about). I don’t think fans speak for the players or organization, and I hope you don’t either.

    Not one single person with the Patriots complained or made excuses. They tipped their hat to the Giants on both occasions, as they do with EVERY team that has ever beaten them. They don’t generate bulletin board material for other teams, and if players do they are punished. Welker’s foot press conference comes to mind.

    The Patriots have long been known as one of the classiest teams in football. They win and lose with dignity and always say good things about their opposition. You’ll never hear Belichick make a negative comment about any opposing coach, player or team.

  81. The more that comes out of the mouth of the NYC NFL Office – the more they sound like Rex Ryans & the JETS.

    That in itself should be enough for every NFL Fan to oust Goodell.

  82. Serial style?

    “Spygate” wasn’t cheating, and there is no evidence of cheating in “deflategate” either.
    =================

    Yes, that’s why they keep getting fined and losing draft picks.

    It’s all a complicated conspiracy by the NFL to make the league look bad…

    …or the Pats are serial cheaters.

    Wonder which is more likely?

  83. For those of you who have said that the league never cared about this, has it ever occurred to you that the league, like the fans who watch the games, actually believed that the qb’s own personal integrity would prevent them from air let out of balls after ref’s inspection? When this first broke there was no way I believed any qb would do this, let alone Tom Brady. I fully expected the Wells Report to say this did not happen.

  84. seatownballers says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:23 PM
    Yet every patriot fan screams innocent. Why have they fired their ball boys? Suspended the manager? Accepted their loss of draft picks and fine? And now the nfl is changing the procedures?

    Wise up folks. These are not the consequences of a coincidence. Cheat or not, these are the actions of the guilty
    ————————————————

    Kraft didn’t want to go “Al Davis” on the league

    The NFL told the Patriots to suspend them. They have been on paid suspension since, and were offered jobs with the NE Revolution soccer team which Kraft also owns.

    Brady/PA are taking the NFL to court as soon as Goodell climbs out of his bomb shelter and announces his decision on the appeal…needless delays are those who are in gweat fear of losing. Which is what the NFL’s chief council has told Goodell

  85. Or just play the game with the same damn ball – it’s really not that hard to solve.

  86. limakey says:
    Jul 26, 2015 6:17 PM

    When this first broke there was no way I believed any qb would do this, let alone Tom Brady. I fully expected the Wells Report to say this did not happen.

    ————————————————————

    Just like the rest of us soooo…..lets beat that dead horse again. How credible is the Wells report?
    Responce?

  87. whitetrash69 says:
    Jul 26, 2015 4:16 PM
    12coltsfan12,
    We know you’re a Pats fan pretending you’re a Colts fan. Its sad this is how low Pats fans have stooped.

    =========================================

    LOL

    Why do you keep pointing this out like its some kind of impressive detective work??

    Are you really THAT stupid to not notice he isn’t even trying to hide it?

    The fact that you think repeatedly pointing out something everyone else here (pats fans and non pats fans alike) already knew from jump street negates the facts that NE is being railroaded and nothing approaching justification for said railroading evidence wise has been produced?

    Sad how low Pats haters have stooped.

  88. “croc3968 says:
    Jul 26, 2015 6:20 PM
    seatownballers says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:23 PM
    Yet every patriot fan screams innocent. Why have they fired their ball boys? Suspended the manager? Accepted their loss of draft picks and fine? And now the nfl is changing the procedures?

    Wise up folks. These are not the consequences of a coincidence. Cheat or not, these are the actions of the guilty
    ————————————————

    Kraft didn’t want to go “Al Davis” on the league

    The NFL told the Patriots to suspend them. They have been on paid suspension since, and were offered jobs with the NE Revolution soccer team which Kraft also owns.”

    Goodell DENIED that the league requested the suspension, and the PATS did not refute his statement.

    As far as al davis, go check out the reasons he sued the league. In one case he brought an antitrust suit (which is huge). He won. Another involved the building of a stadium which he lost. He sued again related to rights to the LA market and lost.

    On the other hand, deflategate has brought into question the integrity of Krafts franchise. He had to eat his words about an apology. He lost another 1st round pick, a 4th round pick, and $1M. Plus, Pats supporters act like a lawsuit would have been a slam dunk. Yet, Kraft “took one for the league”? Kraft has 1000x more reason to sue than al davis ever did. His entire legacy with this team has taken major damage.

    BTW, where were bill bellichick and kraft on the day of Tom Brady’s appeal? Bellichick was in Greece, and Kraft was in Israel. Coincidence? Not one of them has voiced support for Brady since Kraft accepted punishment (bellichick has not at all).

  89. ampatsisahypocrite and jchipwood are two peas of the same pod. What I’d give to see their faces and hear the dribble that comes from their mouths in the instant the Patriots are victorious against their teams.

  90. Even the officials think this is an “overreaction”. But it is exactly what I want.

    If they truly keep a close eye on the footballs then only three things can happen

    1) Patriots turnovers go up
    2) turnovers go up league wide

    3) nothing happens, stats about the same

    We have a 6 quarter sample size for the Pats, so far no to #1

    If #2 then other teams also deflated

    And if #3 then all this was a big deal over nothing

    Can’t wait to see which it is

  91. Pbin, I believe the Wells Report met their burden of proof. I believe the texts and the testimony prove that Brady had means, motive and opportunity to have this done. But his denials, are what sinks him. I believe he is guilty.

  92. I can’t wait for the NFL to finish evaluating the Colts and to come down hard and punish them for putting a needle in the ball during the AFC Championship.

    It is, after all, the only clear violation of league rules relating to ball inflation that was found.

  93. limakey says:
    Jul 26, 2015 6:59 PM

    Pbin, I believe the Wells Report met their burden of proof. I believe the texts and the testimony prove that Brady had means, motive and opportunity to have this done. But his denials, are what sinks him. I believe he is guilty.
    ****
    As well as JJ/JM claiming in NFL security interviews any reference to Tom is not Brady but some other guy named Tom. JM claimed early on he never even went into a bathroom.

  94. Argue all you want Pats fans but it still doesn’t change everyone else’s mind that the Patriots have a history of cheating and their legacy is tarnished. That is the bottom line. Live with it. Embrace the soiling!

  95. “Some defenders of the Patriots and Tom Brady have suggested that footballs could become partially deflated over the course of a game”

    Or in an bathroom. Whatever.

  96. HaHaHa- I love to read all these excuses and delusions from the Pats fans- Whether you like it or not, the truth is that from now on, outside of Boston, the Patsies will forever be known as cheaters…And what is SO stupid is they probably didn’t have to do it at all to win.. Now everything they have accomplised will be meaningless forever- Word

  97. “I can’t wait for the NFL to finish evaluating the Colts and to come down hard and punish them for putting a needle in the ball during the AFC Championship.

    It is, after all, the only clear violation of league rules relating to ball inflation that was found.”

    You are tragically deluded.

  98. Isn’t it funny how the Haters all just seem to overlook one minor fact when stating that Brady was cheating?

    Namely the fact that according to numerous scientists THE FOOTBALLS WERE NOT DEFLATED

    And even when they delude themselves that the Laws of Physics don’t apply to the NFL they’re left with the fact that THE COLTS footballs were ALSO UNDER 12.5 psi

    Amazing what jealousy will do to the fans and owners of teams that have been thwarted by the Patriots for
    15 years

  99. So now they monitor the balls for a season to see what happens. It means they are open to the possibility that weather affects the PSI (and most likely they already know for a fact it does). They can’t suspend Brady now (except possibly for lack of co-operation). Why, because it would be a terrible, irrevocable injustice once weather proves to have been the factor. Brady suspended four games? For something they know will be refuted over the course of the season as they test the balls? They can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube once the suspension is served. At the very worst they can delay things for a year and then re-evaluate (totally exonerate) based on the PSI readings. At best they admit it now and reverse the suspension and maybe dole out a fine for “lack of cooperation.

  100. limakey says:
    Jul 26, 2015 7:16 PM

    Pbin, embrace the guilt!
    ———————————————-
    Pathetic come back! That has the same intellectual value as “I know you are but what am I?” Trolls just aren’t what they used to be. Funny, witty, intelligent. Now a days we get stuff a 7 year old would say.

  101. This is all theater. No emphasis was ever placed on the “integrity” of the footballs because everybody knew that PSI, except maybe, possibly, perhaps when it went below 10, didn’t matter. Now it’s a big deal that must be addressed with all due gravity and attention to the minutest detail. Give me a break.

  102. seatownballers says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:23 PM

    Yet every patriot fan screams innocent. Why have they fired their ball boys? Suspended the manager? Accepted their loss of draft picks and fine? And now the nfl is changing the procedures?

    Wise up folks. These are not the consequences of a coincidence. Cheat or not, these are the actions of the guilty
    _____________________________

    As much as the league denies it the reality is that the two guys suspended indefinitely were done so at the NFL’s request. Remember that line about about how they cannot be reinstated without NFL approval? That tells you word came from the NFL to suspend them.

    Secondly, this move to tighten controls and measure balls regularly is likely one of the reasons Kraft did not appeal. When the NFL randomly checks footballs and validates the ideal gas law impacts footballs that will be all Roger needs to vacate the penalties against the Pats.

    Of course that will be over 1 year after the whole deflategate issue began and everyone will have long forgotten about Mike Kensil’s role in all this. Just as the NFL wanted all along. after all, what’s more damaging to the shield? Implying but not being able to prove that a star QB may have had footballs deflated or exposing that one or more of your executives went rogue to settle and old personal grudge?

  103. And another reason Goodell can reverse the suspension more easily now is Sal Palantonio’s report about the owners pressuring for punishment. Once the suspension is reversed they have to keep their pie holes shut or it will look like old Sal was right on the money. Right now those five or six owners have crawled back into their caves and dare not say a word once the reversal announcement is made this week.
    All signs are pointing to exoneration.

  104. Hey JoeSixPack, which expert did Brady hire to testify at his appeal? If he wanted to use any of those reports to challenge the Wells Report, he would had to have an expert testify for him.

  105. And one more thing. In addition to the refs taking these measurements, there should be witnesses and representatives from each team present to take note of what the refs findings are. Maybe even videotape the whole shebang. This is to insure the integrity of the process, so we don’t get another “10 of 11 balls were found to be 2 lbs under” stories. I don’t trust the NFL to get this right on their own, or to leave the door open for it to be used against a team or an individual.

  106. They don’t lose pressure simply because they were “used in a game”. They lose pressure because they go from a room temperature locker room to a cold field. You can’t just measure the balls at halftime and say “oh my. They’re under 12.5 psi! Someone tampered with them.” I would hope that the weather (not only temperature, but rain or snow or heat if the the balls are over 13.5 psi) would be taken into consideration.

    Still, the NFL is making even more of a mountain out of a mole hill.

    If they’re that concerned, get them to team specifications before the game and just reinflate or deflate to 13 psi at halftime. I like the automatic 13 psi for any over or under inflated ball at pre game.

    And remember, the refs have always had the power to remove a ball from a game if they deem it unplayable. Funny how you don’t see that happen.

  107. It’ll be funny when Pats fans get slapped in the face with the reality that Brady, with is tiny little hands, can no longer throw the football the same…and fumbles start to happen with normal regularity.

    Add that to his age and the wall is coming fast.

    And every football fan in America is going to chortle while they crumble, laughing at every ugly loss.

  108. @Foozie
    But they didn’t break the rules. The weather deflated the balls.
    Got it now?

  109. Hey lostok, you mean like happened in the second half of the AFCCG and the entire Super Bowl?
    How did you feel when you got slapped in the face with that reality?

  110. ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Jul 26, 2015 4:09 PM

    After all the mumbo-jumbo about ideal gas laws, the second law of thermodynamics and the gravity of Jupiter’s third moon, it really boils down to the simple points. Facts so simple I can’t believe nobody points them out more.

    During last spring’s investigation, Tom Brady makes the following quote:

    “I didn’t know who Jim McNally was so I find it hard to believe I could bring that up,” he said, according to the report.

    Yet in an October 17, 2014 text, equipment-manager Jastremski differs just a wee bit from Tommy’s take on things. After receiving a text from locker-room comrade McNally starting with the words “Tom sucks…” Jastremski offers the following:

    “Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done.”

    Gee, how could someone who has no idea who McNally is, “bring him up”? Pretty strange, huh?
    And remember, this was back in the fall of last year.

    —————————-

    Because if you bothered to do any further investigation, you would know it was because Brady didn’t know McNally by his real name. He only knew him by his nickname.

  111. The Patriots surely won’t care as they dominated the Colts with the .35 of a lb added after halftime and crushed the Legion of Gloom with a fully inflated football but Aaron Rodgers is sure gonna be pissed!

  112. number4020115 says:
    @Foozie
    But they didn’t break the rules. The weather deflated the balls.
    Got it now?

    ======

    Then why were two equipment handlers fired?
    And why did Kraft elect not to appeal?

  113. dumbdolphinfan says:
    Jul 26, 2015 4:45 PM

    Jastremski and McNally have both said the conversation about stress was about someone else, not Brady.
    ————————————————

    Which is laughable, because this was a quick exchange with no time to refer to anyone else but Brady, which went like this:

    9: 05: 45 McNally: Tom sucks, I’m going to make that next ball a (expletive) balloon

    9: 07:08 Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up…

    As you can see, this exchange is that quick… so who else could they POSSIBLY be referring to besides Tom Brady? Who else could “him” be referring to but Brady? C’mon!

    Or as the Wells Report refers to exchanges like this:

    “We note that Jastremski’s statements to McNally concerning Brady are in the nature of statements made by a co-conspirator during and in furtherance of a conspiracy, which would be admissible under Rule 801(d)(2)(E) of the Federal Rules of Evidence.”

    This is why, despite all the Pats fans cackling about getting this in court and exposing Goodell, don’t be surprised if it’s these guys and Brady who don’t want to have to swear to their statements under oath.

    —————————————————
    dumbdolphinfan says:
    Jul 26, 2015 4:45 PM
    Do you think Brady spends any time worrying about the stress level of a guy whose job is to properly inflate the footballs?
    ———————————————–

    “You good Jonny boy?” That’s a text from Tom Brady to Jastremski back in January. Sure sounds like a guy who’s concerned for his bud.

    This was followed up the next day by another “you doing good?” text to Jastremski. Yeah, Tom sure doesn’t give a hoot about those guys huh?

    Bottom line: this whole thing doesn’t pass the smell test. Why does Brady deny knowing McNally when the texts say otherwise, if Brady has nothing to hide?

    Kudos to you for replying though. I notice most of our resident Pats scientific/legal experts didn’t want to go near this one.

  114. Bcgreg, Brady has denied knowing who Jim McNally was period. It is clearly stated in the Wells Report. He has claimed that until after the AFCCG, he did not know him period. The stuff about the nick name is from the Pat’s response. Both JM and JJ said that Brady knew who he was and what his job was. Brady has stuck to his story he did not know him or what his job was. He has claimed he does not know how the footballs even get on the field.

  115. Foozie, I know I am wasting my time, but here goes:
    The NFL told the Patriots to suspend the two guys. They were not fired by the Patriots.
    Kraft said he STRONGLY disagreed with the punishment but would not fight it because as an owner they have no recourse in situations like this.
    Got it now?

  116. This procedure is now in place because you know teams would do it on their own just to see for themselves what actually happens. God forbid that data gets out before the league office can spin it

    I hope that the gauges will be calibrated and standardized and that the results will be published.

    Stupid NFL. Get off my team and my QB.

    #freebrady

  117. Seems weird that the new NFL instructions don’t include “recording the temperature.”

    Is the NFL continuing to resist 18th century science? I guess they don’t want to give Brady’s defense any credence whatsoever. Gotta pander to the low-information football fan.

  118. ‘Brady has denied knowing who Jim McNally was period. It is clearly stated in the Wells Report. ‘

    Yes. I’m sure the conversation went something like
    “Did you have any conversation with James McNally?”

    “Who is that?”

    I don’t think Ted Wells went out of his way to explain to Tom Brady that McNally was the guy that he knew as “Burt”.

    Why are you harping on such an irrelevant point?

    It’s typical of the “gotcha” approach Wells had to everything. He was tasked with “finding ways to punish the Patriots”, not “finding out what happened.”

  119. bcgreg says:
    Jul 26, 2015 8:29 PM

    Because if you bothered to do any further investigation, you would know it was because Brady didn’t know McNally by his real name. He only knew him by his nickname.
    ————————————————-

    I was waiting for this one.

    That’s called “plausible deniability” which is another way of saying “I can say I don’t know who Jim McNally is even though I actually do, because I can claim I only know some guy named ‘Bird’.”

    What difference does that make anyway, if Jim McNally goes by his real name or his nickname? It’s the same guy. That’s like saying I don’t know who Earvin Johnson is, never heard of him — I only know some guy named “Magic.”

    It’s a crock, and that’s why the league wasn’t buying it. Brady DID know who this ball boy was, whether he went by the name Jim, Bird or Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.

    Only Patriots fans are buying this weak line, and that’s why the suspension was handed down.

  120. They have handled the balls for years,if something was obvious ,it would have been reported long ago.This whole story is lame.

  121. The ball handlers were not fired.Lets say they were and they cheated.The story would have been sold ;on ago.

  122. So the referee who spotted the ball before every NE and IND play never noticed anything, but a safety who made an interception could immediately tell the difference. Doesn’t a Ref feel enough balls every game to know when one feels a little wrong? Probably can’t pick a good melon in the produce section either.

  123. limakey says:
    Jul 26, 2015 6:17 PM

    For those of you who have said that the league never cared about this, has it ever occurred to you that the league, like the fans who watch the games, actually believed that the qb’s own personal integrity would prevent them from air let out of balls after ref’s inspection? When this first broke there was no way I believed any qb would do this, let alone Tom Brady. I fully expected the Wells Report to say this did not happen.
    —————————-

    It did! Read it!

  124. Number, it has never been made clear about JM and JJ suspension. The rumor was, the NFL requested it. When Robert Kraft was asked why they were suspended, he said for various reasons. He never said the NFL asked him to do it.

  125. Now then, we have established the fact that Tom Brady inquired about the ball boy and his “stress” — whether that ball boy went by the name of Jim or “Bird”. It doesn’t matter.

    But ask yourself: what “stress” would a job that entails the simple pumping up of footballs to a regulated psi level have? I mean, this is something some kid could do with a basketball and an air pump with a gauge.

    Here’s something though that COULD cause stress — having to retrieve those balls after they’ve been inspected by the officials, and repairing to a private area with said footballs. Just for the sake of example, let’s say a small bathroom that may or may not have a urinal in it. Then, after you’ve done who knows what with said footballs, get them returned in time for the game.

    Now THAT would cause some stress, wouldn’t it? I know it would with me.

  126. If the temperature is cold obviously the footballs will lose a little bit of air pressure. But that has nothing to do with the fact that Brady had the Patriots equipment deflate the footballs and then lied about it!

  127. Nobody cared about PSI until the league office made a mess out of this situation. The league now must make the pre game , half time and post game testing of the football’s public information for every game.
    The fans have zero voice, but the media has a responsibility to make the league accountable to provide the PSI results from here on out.

  128. LMAO

    The NFL keeps digging the hole they are in deeper & deeper.
    Unless the NFL makes proper corrections they are setting themselves up for more embarrassment.

    The NFL MUST:

    1.) Choose a highly accurate & reliable Gauge –
    2.)ONLY one Brand/Model Gauge for ALL Refs to use and they have to be checked as well before measuring the footballs.
    3.) Footballs & Gauges MUST be ACCLIMATED to ‘ON FEILD Temperature minimum half hour prior to measuring.
    4.) Footballs MUST be measured ‘ON THE FIELD’ no longer then a half an hour before the start of the game.
    5.) Footballs numbered and recorded.
    6.) Footballs then MUST be given to Officially Designated Ball Boys and kept in open view of cameras and field officials.
    7.) Repeat at half time.

  129. USELESS, unless they are using ASTM calibrated gauges and a standard operating procedure. Otherwise, the amount of error is huge and makes the whole process a farce. The scatter in data will be huge and meaningless.

    Mike Florio – you need to make the NFL look stupid about this with an item about it.

  130. Patriot’s footballs will now be tested and set to the lowest legal level. The league is now going to seriously enforce this so I look forward to the Patriot’s going down the tubes because the footballs will be properly inflated. From what I have read here, weather and science does not impact the PSI of footballs and the Patriot’s would lose more games if the PSI was at a legal level. The facts(from commenters here) show the latter to be true. Just look at what happened in the second half of the Colt’s game when he was forced to play with properly inflated footballs! If you want further proof of how poorly Brady plays with properly inflated footballs check out his poor performance against the defending SB champs and highly ranked defense in the Super Bowl! Brady has clearly shown he can’t play well if the balls aren’t deflated. Am I right? Click onmy name and let me know.

  131. Whisper, read, The Deflategate Report Makes Tom Brady Look Very,Very Involved. If you have the guts. So even if you want to cling to the nickname mix up he denied knowing what his job was and how the footballs even got to the field. Both JJ and JM said he did know who he was and that he knew what JM’s job was. JM told NFL Security that Tom personally told him what his inflation preference was. To make sure the ref knew the rule. And now we are expected to believe Brady didn’t know him or his job?

  132. djaehne says: So the texts from brady to jm and jj were what, making sure the balls were inflated to 13.0 psi?
    =================

    YES actually – the texts between the guys responsible for game ball prep stated in their texts that Brady’s preferred PSI was 13.0 – not even he minimum

    The Haters can’t stand it, but that’s EXACTLY what they say

    Thanks for reminding everyone

  133. I’m guessing that this is the preface for Brady’s exoneration. The NFL will play out the 2015 season, and the fans will forget about this whole ordeal. This is very convenient for Goodell to save face and not go to court.

  134. “ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Jul 26, 2015 9:33 PM
    Now then, we have established the fact that Tom Brady inquired about the ball boy and his “stress” — whether that ball boy went by the name of Jim or “Bird”. It doesn’t matter.

    But ask yourself: what “stress” would a job that entails the simple pumping up of footballs to a regulated psi level have? I mean, this is something some kid could do with a basketball and an air pump with a gauge.

    Here’s something though that COULD cause stress — having to retrieve those balls after they’ve been inspected by the officials, and repairing to a private area with said footballs. Just for the sake of example, let’s say a small bathroom that may or may not have a urinal in it. Then, after you’ve done who knows what with said footballs, get them returned in time for the game.

    Now THAT would cause some stress, wouldn’t it? I know it would with me.”

    This was given an explanation already if you’d cared to read any of the other side of the story. There are texts missing in the conversation and when they refer to “he” they are not talking about Tom Brady. They are talking about a man that was possibly interested in buying Jim McNally’s tickets.

    This is why it is dangerous to look at texts taken out of context. The Deflator text comes to mind. Now you can believe them or not, but at the end of the day you can’t punish someone based on speculation that they may be lying. You need actual hard evidence, of which there is none since the balls were not deflated.

  135. seatownballers says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:23 PM
    Yet every patriot fan screams innocent. Why have they fired their ball boys? Suspended the manager? Accepted their loss of draft picks and fine? And now the nfl is changing the procedures?

    Wise up folks. These are not the consequences of a coincidence. Cheat or not, these are the actions of the guilty
    ————————-
    A fan of the PED Hawks would know.

  136. Joe, deal with the fact that TB told JM about his inflation preference for the AFCCG game and Brady’s total denial he knew who JM was or what his job was.

  137. ” So even if you want to cling to the nickname mix up he denied knowing what his job was and how the footballs even got to the field. Both JJ and JM said he did know who he was and that he knew what JM’s job was. JM told NFL Security that Tom personally told him what his inflation preference was. To make sure the ref knew the rule. And now we are expected to believe Brady didn’t know him or his job?”

    No, you’re supposed to believe he didn’t know his full name.

    How many times do we have to explain this???

    Brady only saw McNally on games the Pats had home games. That means 8-10 days per year. He knew him vaguely but McNally was not very close to Brady. Why is that hard to believe? Why do people conjure up their own stories and then believe that they must be true?

    Brady knew Jastremski well. Jastremski was a full-time employee who worked five days a week during football season. There are many text messages between Brady and Jastremski and none between Brady and McNally.

  138. ‘ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Jul 26, 2015 9:33 PM
    Now then, we have established the fact that Tom Brady inquired about the ball boy and his “stress” — whether that ball boy went by the name of Jim or “Bird”. It doesn’t matter.

    Actually Jastremski says that wasn’t Tom Brady who was asking about that, but somebody else.

    “But ask yourself: what “stress” would a job that entails the simple pumping up of footballs to a regulated psi level have? I mean, this is something some kid could do with a basketball and an air pump with a gauge.

    Yes, you’ve NAILED it! The only thing in McNally’s life that could possibly caused stress was exactly the thing that Ted Wells was accusing him of doing!

    Seriously, step outside of yourself and think about how weak this argument is.

    Ted Wells is simultaneously arguing that Brady was upset with McNally on Oct. 17 for letting the refs leave the balls at 16.0 psi and that Brady was understanding that McNally was under stress “getting them done”.

    What could McNally have been doing? Wells insinuates that he was tampering with the footballs. But if McNally had tampered with the footballs, why were they at 16.0 psi? It makes no sense.

    If we take the text messages seriously, the one thing that is incontrovertible is that they balls were not tampered with on 10/16. So whatever McNally was talking about, “getting them done” was not about deflating the balls before the Jets’ game. Because the balls weren’t deflated before the Jets’ game.

  139. thetigerleg says:
    Jul 26, 2015 9:16 PM

    So the referee who spotted the ball before every NE and IND play never noticed anything, but a safety who made an interception could immediately tell the difference. Doesn’t a Ref feel enough balls every game to know when one feels a little wrong? Probably can’t pick a good melon in the produce section either.
    ****
    I doubt this. Refs are spotting the ball making sure it is the right yardage. They have enough on their plate as it is. And already don’t always get things right.

    They don’t have all this time to inspect every in play ball between snaps by squeezing it. The hurry up offense gets slowed down as it is from them just doing normal spotting duties.

  140. peytonwantsaflag says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:28 PM
    This is such nonsense. It’s a simple fix, just allow the teams to inflate their own balls to whatever they want. Do it that way and there is no competitive advantage and the league doesn’t have to micromanage this stuff and the officials can concentrate on the important things.
    *******************
    This is actually part of the problem. Neither team should be allowed to supply their own footballs.

    NFL should provide them.

  141. Patriots fans won’t admit that Brady is a liar and a cheat and their team are serial cheaters! Patriot fans are the same as Penn State fans who won’t admit that Joe Paterno covered up for Sandusky! You people are zealots of a cult if you won’t admit the obvious!

  142. nepatriot1 says:
    Jul 26, 2015 10:28 PM
    seatownballers says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:23 PM
    Yet every patriot fan screams innocent. Why have they fired their ball boys? Suspended the manager? Accepted their loss of draft picks and fine? And now the nfl is changing the procedures?

    Wise up folks. These are not the consequences of a coincidence. Cheat or not, these are the actions of the guilty
    ————————-
    A fan of the PED Hawks would know
    **************************************
    Nice try at deflecting.
    You do realize that of the players ever suspended, only one is still currently playing for the seahawks? Bruce Irvin.
    Oh and one that was suspended (both for PEDs and Substance abuse) was given a contract by the Patriots last season?
    Brandon Browner.
    Should make sure that you don’t throw stones inside that house of glass.
    I guess that since Brandon had already been a confirmed cheater that he would fit in well with the corporate atmosphere.
    Oh also… don’t forget Tyms.

  143. Whisper, this is where Pats fans totally disagree with Tom Brady. He is claiming that he does not know who Jim McNally is. Nickname or otherwise. Brady has stated until the AFCCG he had no clue who JM was. Period. He does not this man by any name. He does not his job. However, you as Pat fans need to decide what side you are on. Either he knew who he was and what his job was or JM and JJ are lying.

  144. Under the new rules, the referee will designate two members of his staff to inspect every football submitted by each team to make sure they’re inflated to between 12.5 PSI and 13.5 PSI. Any footballs that fall outside the prescribed specifications will be inflated or deflated to 13.0 PSI. The officials will also number each football submitted and keep a log of the level of inflation of each football.

    ——–

    So isnt this admission they weren’t measuring the balls properly before?

  145. Interesting idea, but they need to come up with an actual documented and standardized procedure. Standardized gauges would help. They should also avoid measuring ball pressures during the first few minutes of halftime, because the balls will be warming or cooling and the pressures will be changing. Measuring them before leaving the field next to an IR thermometer would get the data point they require.

    However they do it, it’s totally an admission that they had no idea that temperature affected pressure.

  146. Microchips inside the balls will provide real time monitoring of fluctuations with spikes signifying possible tampering. Additional surveillance technologies include more cameras, Brinks distribution and delivery, and background checks.
    ===
    Yeah… You could…

    But they’re footballs…

  147. straightfactshomie says:
    Jul 26, 2015 10:27 PM

    This was given an explanation already if you’d cared to read any of the other side of the story. There are texts missing in the conversation and when they refer to “he” they are not talking about Tom Brady. They are talking about a man that was possibly interested in buying Jim McNally’s tickets.

    This is why it is dangerous to look at texts taken out of context. The Deflator text comes to mind. Now you can believe them or not, but at the end of the day you can’t punish someone based on speculation that they may be lying. You need actual hard evidence, of which there is none since the balls were not deflated.
    ——————————————

    Oh PLEASE.

    I posted the times of the texts along with their content. Less than TWO MINUTES elapsed between the initial text and the reply, meaning that they could only have been talking about Tom Brady when they referred to “he” and “him.” There’s nothing “missing” here, because there wasn’t TIME for anything to be missing. Unless you believe, somehow, that some completely unrelated and complete conversation about some guy who wanted to buy tickets could actually have occurred within the minute and change that elapsed between texts. So forget the “missing texts” explanation, ridiculous as it is, because it’s simply impossible to have happened the way the team explains it. So spare me the “context” argument, the facts say otherwise.

    Yeah, I read the other side of this one, and it’s right up there with the team’s explanation that the Deflator nickname referred to weight loss. The Patriots and their explanations have lost all credibility.

  148. whispersd says:
    Jul 26, 2015 10:35 PM

    No, you’re supposed to believe he didn’t know his full name.

    How many times do we have to explain this???

    Brady only saw McNally on games the Pats had home games. That means 8-10 days per year. He knew him vaguely but McNally was not very close to Brady. Why is that hard to believe? Why do people conjure up their own stories and then believe that they must be true?

    Brady knew Jastremski well. Jastremski was a full-time employee who worked five days a week during football season. There are many text messages between Brady and Jastremski and none between Brady and McNally.
    ________________________________

    And how many times do I have to explain to YOU that it doesn’t matter what name Brady knew him by, what matters is that he DID know about him — and asked about him — despite Brady’s portrayal of the situation.

    All Brady said was “I didn’t know who Jim McNally was” — but he clearly knew him by his nickname. So what’s the difference, besides the plausible deniability employed by Brady here?

    Tom Brady DID know of a second ball boy, and inquired about his well-being. The fact that Brady only texted Jastremski directly means nothing — he simply used Jastremski as a go-between to communicate with the other ball boy, regardless of what name he was using.

    In fact if we apply your standard this looks even WORSE — because if McNally was so “not close” to Brady then why did Brady so clearly seek to inquire about his mental condition?

    Tom Brady was CLEARLY interested in this second ball boy, regardless of what name he went by. The question is, why — especially as you Pats apologists claim the guy was so insignificant to Tom Brady.

  149. Now, allow me to address the key point of this whole “Brady didn’t know McNally’s full name” claim, and why it’s just so darn sleazy.

    The fact is NOBODY knew McNally by his full name: he either went by “Bird” or more famously “the Deflator.” That’s what gives Brady the perfect way to deny knowing about him, even when he does. Because while it may be technically true that Tom Brady didn’t know who “Jim McNally” was, it’s clear that he DID know about him — the texts between Jastremski and McNally back that up.

    That means Tom Brady can say in public with a perfectly straight face that he doesn’t “know who Jim McNally is” and, in his mind, get away with it. Which, I guess, comes in really handy when it comes to talking to the media and the league.

    It’s kind of like that whole eligible receiver ploy the Patriots hit the Ravens with. Yes, technically it’s legal, but it’s not really the most honorable way to play the game, now, is it?

    But obviously that’s just how the Patriots roll.

  150. limakey says:
    Jul 26, 2015 6:59 PM

    Pbin, I believe the Wells Report met their burden of proof. I believe the texts and the testimony prove that Brady had means, motive and opportunity to have this done. But his denials, are what sinks him. I believe he is guilty.
    _____________________________________

    Police: “Here’s a ticket for speeding on your way to work this morning.”

    limakey: “Speeding?”

    Police: “You have a high powered sports car, you were late for work, and the roads were not congested. You had the means, motive, and opportunity.”

    limakey: “But I wasn’t speeding.”

    Police: “You’re denying it? Now I know you’re guilty.”

  151. “Yet in an October 17, 2014 text, equipment-manager Jastremski differs just a wee bit from Tommy’s take on things. After receiving a text from locker-room comrade McNally starting with the words ‘Tom sucks…’ Jastremski offers the following:

    ‘Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done.’ ”
    —-

    “Now then, we have established the fact that Tom Brady inquired about the ball boy and his “stress” — whether that ball boy went by the name of Jim or “Bird”. It doesn’t matter.

    But ask yourself: what “stress” would a job that entails the simple pumping up of footballs to a regulated psi level have? I mean, this is something some kid could do with a basketball and an air pump with a gauge.”

    —-

    Both McNally and Jastremski deny that that the “he” in that text is Brady, and that the “them” is footballs. McNally was trying to deal with season tickets that his family owned, and Jastremski was talking to someone else about them for him. And the Patriots identified that person, and interviewed that person, and offered him to Wells to explain that text and that conversation, and Wells said, basically, “thanks, but no thanks.” Because he was not interested in any explanation that didn’t involve Brady and footballs.

  152. “Brady DID know who this ball boy was, whether he went by the name Jim, Bird or Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.”

    There’s no reason for Brady to know a guy who’s in the stadium serving the officials locker-room 10-12 times a year. There just isn’t. McNally was not a full-time employee of the team, he was only there on game days, one of hundreds, his function was to maintain the official’s locker room and carry the bags of balls to the field. He had no responsibilities of any kind requiring interaction with any players. There’s just no reason whatsoever for Brady to ever have dealt with him, and there’s nothing whatsoever that’s suspicious about his denials.

  153. “Whisper, read, The Deflategate Report Makes Tom Brady Look Very,Very Involved. If you have the guts. ”

    Or don’t. If you’ve read the Wells Report, it’s a waste of time, as it’s an insta-react rehash piece that adds nothing and takes the Wells Report as gospel.

  154. Report comment
    seatownballers says:
    Jul 26, 2015 3:23 PM
    Yet every patriot fan screams innocent. Why have they fired their ball boys? Suspended the manager? Accepted their loss of draft picks and fine? And now the nfl is changing the procedures?

    Wise up folks. These are not the consequences of a coincidence. Cheat or not, these are the actions of the guilty
    ——————
    It’s too bad that posting as inaccurately as this fello, a lifetime site ban isn’t administered.

  155. Anyone else think that the League might be better served simply telling their officials to watch out for the Patriots* since trouble seems to follow them around? (And I don’t mean like the refs normally “watch out” them either (i.e., giving them great calls and no calls game after game))…..

  156. Even the powerful NFL cannot dispute science as indicated in their recent rules’ changes.

    Please read the 19 January, 2015 official letter sent to Mr. Kraft from the senior vice president of NFL operations (David Gardi) that informed the Patriots that an investigation will be conducted.

    1. FACT: On page two, the letter states the following: … “each of the Colts’ game balls that was inspected met the requirements set forth.”
    READ THE LETTER!

    Accordingly, that statement turns out to be totally not true. Page 8, of the Wells report confirms that 3 of the 4 Colts’ footballs were in fact deflated.

    What happened next? The press/public were led to believe the Patriots must have cheated and DEFLATEGATE RAN WILD. In essence, everyone was led to believe (via that letter, leaked or otherwise) that if all the Colts’ footballs were within the permissible PSI ranges and the Patriots footballs were not; the Patriots must have cheated.

    Additionally, who made the decision at halftime to STOP testing the Colts’ remaining 8 footballs at half-time (only four balls tested, 3 found deflated)?

    2. What do I believe actually happened? Simply, the NFL went in at halftime to measure the PSI of each football for both teams and when they realized the Colts’ footballs were deflated, someone must have said: “OOPS” we have a problem. That is, both teams have deflated footballs and thus, someone directed to stop testing the remaining 8 Colts’ footballs.

    3. How is this possible for the comments listed in paragraph 2?

    Again simply, the NFL had no clue about the Ideal Gas Law (IGL) prior to commencing their actions in this matter. We all now know that atmospheric conditions will naturally deflate the PSI of footballs. Bottom line: to properly execute the IGL, PSI for EACH football must be taken at the same time prior to the start of the game and also at the same time during half-time and thus, determine correct PSI numbers. Some MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS know this!

    4. Why wouldn’t Brady turn his cell phone in? …… WOULD YOU PROVIDE YOUR CELL PHONE TO FOLKS THAT ARE NOT TRUTHFUL (19 Jan. letter)???

  157. To limakey;
    Brady knew a game day employee whom everyone called Bird.
    Why is it so hard to believe that Brady didn’t know his real name if everyone called him Bird?
    He was a game day only employee so I’m pretty sure that Brady is not focused on the team personnel.

    And they were suspended because the texts showed that they were helping themselves to team merchandise.
    I did find it interesting that Goodell quickly and tersely denied that it was the NFL that suspended these guys during a press conference.
    But he acted like he had no clue what another reporting was asking when the ESPN false report was brought up.
    The reporter might as well have been speaking Chinese.

  158. Gotta love the Patriots : They consistently skirt or break the rules and the NFL has to change the rules to keep up with their cheating ways – You Pat’s fans must be so proud !

  159. Even the powerful NFL cannot dispute science as indicated in their recent rules’ changes.

    Please read the 19 January, 2015 official letter sent to Mr. Kraft from the senior vice president of NFL operations (David Gardi) that informed the Patriots that an investigation will be conducted.

    1. FACT: On page two, the letter states the following: … “each of the Colts’ game balls that was inspected met the requirements set forth.”
    READ THE LETTER!

    Accordingly, that statement turns out to be totally not true. Page 8, of the Wells report confirms that 3 of the 4 Colts’ footballs were in fact deflated.

    What happened next? The press/public were led to believe the Patriots must have cheated and DEFLATEGATE RAN WILD. In essence, everyone was led to believe (via that letter, leaked or otherwise) that if all the Colts’ footballs were within the permissible PSI ranges and the Patriots footballs were not; the Patriots must have cheated.

    Additionally, who made the decision at halftime to STOP testing the Colts’ remaining 8 footballs at half-time (only four balls tested, 3 found deflated)?

    2. What do I believe actually happened? Simply, the NFL went in at halftime to measure the PSI of each football for both teams and when they realized the Colts’ footballs were deflated, someone must have said: “OOPS” we have a problem. That is, both teams have deflated footballs and thus, someone directed to stop testing the remaining 8 Colts’ footballs.

    3. How is this possible for the comments listed in paragraph 2?

    Again simply, the NFL had no clue about the Ideal Gas Law (IGL) prior to commencing their actions in this matter. We all now know that atmospheric conditions will naturally deflate the PSI of footballs. Bottom line: to properly execute the IGL, PSI for EACH football must be taken at the same time prior to the start of the game and also at the same time during half-time and thus, determine correct PSI numbers. Some MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS know this!

    4. Why wouldn’t Brady turn his cell phone in? …… WOULD YOU PROVIDE YOUR CELL PHONE TO FOLKS THAT ARE NOT TRUTHFUL (19 Jan. letter)???

  160. Oh i cant wait for cold weather games and see that none of the balls deflate due to weather. Then the biggest argument pats fans think they have is “science” is just a bunch of nonsense. Lets remember, a ball was 2 PSI under the limit at halftime in the Pats game. Now if the balls routinely arent checked then during 4 quarters in even colder weather, lets say at Lambeau, then the balls would go down at least double that- so between 4-5 PSI. Now wouldnt an NFL QB notice 4-5 PSI difference? And yet no QB has ever once said to anyone “hey this ball feels deflated, can we pump some air into it?”. It’s crazy that has never once happened- but according to “science” the balls deflate that much during all cold weather games.

  161. itsfootballfolks says:
    Jul 26, 2015 9:47 PM

    USELESS, unless they are using ASTM calibrated gauges and a standard operating procedure. Otherwise, the amount of error is huge and makes the whole process a farce. The scatter in data will be huge and meaningless
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    EXACTLY what the NFL wants – Scattered Data.

    Goodell & the NFL will not yield to Science or the FACT that they have been, and still are, acting with intent that is Detrimental to the Game and Integrity.

    Everytime Goodell utters the word Integrity he LIES.

  162. ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Jul 27, 2015 1:13 AM

    Brady denying he knew McNally is the EXACT same thing as Lance Armstrong saying “i have never failed a drug test”. yes thats true- but he didnt fail b/c he cheated them. No brady didnt know Jim by his real name- but he knew him by his nickname- either way he knew the ball boy and specifically asked about him when he contacted JJ after the game. He is using technicalities, which just as in the case of Lance- is a cheater trying to weasel his way out.

  163. bullcharger says:
    Jul 26, 2015 11:41 PM

    This means they dont routinely check the balls during the game- which they should have been doing from day one. Either way- it doesnt make cheating ok. The patriots cheated regardless and now the NFL has to change yet ANOTHER rule to stop the patriots from cheating. They keep taking advantage of thing- just like their ILLEGAL formations (yes some of them were actually illegal- the player has to announce is eligibility before every play which the patriots did not). So just b/c the refs dont continuously check and mark the balls doesnt mean the patriots are innocent. The balls were tested before the game and conformed to the rules, at halftime they werent within the rules. Its that simple.

  164. Clearly the league offices do not care about public opinion and the overwhelming feeling that nothing happened — nothing but a witchhunt that is.

  165. Hmmm…

    The story I get out of this is the NFL FO saying to refs “Please actually do your job this time? So the NFL doesn’t look like complete idiots that can’t understand Gas Laws and pressure vs. temp and simple things like that? kthxbye!”

  166. When the Colts and Raven
    have won playoff games they brag, when they lose they whine.
    They both ran away from the cities the once played in, that should say it all.
    No loyalty to the fans.

  167. “Under the new rules, the referee will designate two members of his staff to inspect every football submitted by each team to make sure they’re inflated to between 12.5 PSI and 13.5 PSI.”

    Why do they need 2 refs to do this? According to the NFL (via Wells and Exponent), one guy can, in 90 seconds, easily deflate 12 balls to within exactly .4 PSI of each other no problems. That means all 48 balls could be done easily in a whole 6 minutes by one ref (disregarding of course the fact that 3 refs couldn’t do more than 16 balls in 15 minutes during the AFCCG, but hey, facts? who cares about facts!). Why the sudden overkill?

  168. The balls were tested before the game and conformed to the rules, at halftime they werent within the rules. Its that simple.
    —————————————
    And neither were 3 of the 4 Colts balls according to one official.

  169. lostsok says:
    Jul 26, 2015 8:21 PM
    It’ll be funny when Pats fans get slapped in the face with the reality that Brady, with is tiny little hands, can no longer throw the football the same…

    Actually it has been reported that Tom Brady has a large hand size.

    We all know that his hands were just fine in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl against the Seahawks when he led the greatest Super Bowl comeback of all-time while going 13-15 against the LOO (Legion of Overrated); the previously described greatest defense of all-time.

    Brady showed the way. Lots of teams will be attacking the LOO this year (come on, isn’t that a little funny?).

    Yes, that one overthrow of Edelman at the goal line in the 4th quarter was poor, as were the two INTs in the game. Just goes to show that Tom Brady, the Greatest QB of All-Time, is almost mortal.

  170. Under the new rules, the referee will designate two members of his staff to inspect every football submitted by each team to make sure they’re inflated to between 12.5 PSI and 13.5 PSI. Any footballs that fall outside the prescribed specifications will be inflated or deflated to 13.0 PSI. The officials will also number each football submitted and keep a log of the level of inflation of each football.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the same as the old rule??? Meaning that they weren’t doing their job in the first place. How is the biggest non-story become the biggest story in NFL history? Oh yeah, because the NFL wants it that way. Witch hunt

  171. RegisHawk says:
    Jul 27, 2015 8:39 AM

    Lock that barn door! Brady & Belichick are already on to their next cheating tactic.

    ——-

    when are you going to use some new material?

  172. paulrevereshorse1775 says:
    Jul 27, 2015 8:52 AM

    when are you going to use some new material?

    ====

    LOL…have you read anything your confreres have been writing? It’s all the same pab. The fact that it either has no meaning or no truth to it doesn’t stop them one bit. Can’t wait for the next comparison to Greg Hardy!!!

  173. The answer here is simple. The league needs to create a new Reverse SpyGate for the patz.
    Cameras and mic’s need to be installed in their facility, and yes, to include the bathrooms.

    I know this sounds invasive, but the patz numerous infractions support it.

    This way the league can “spy” on the patz when they are plotting and planning their cheats. Also, this will catch the responsible party and not some low level scapegoat like the last time.

    It is disgraceful that the ball boy and equipment manager were fired due to just following orders.

  174. Football Pressure Science 101:

    Falling temperature causes the pressure to drop. In a football, in a tire, in a helium balloon, etc. This is true for ANY gas-filled sealed object

    A 20 degree drop in temperature causes a 1 psi or so drop in pressure of an NFL football.

    That DOES NOT mean that ANY air at all was taken out of the football. No, the football wasn’t “deflated” at all, but instead it lost some pressure. This “scandal” is more aptly named depressurization-gate, or ideal gas law-gate.

    A football at 13 psi at 72 degrees is going to be at about 10 psi after being used for a half in a 12 degree game (say a game in Green Bay or Foxboro in December).

    A football at 12 degrees and 10 psi does NOT necessarily feel “deflated”. In fact, a cold football feels HARDER rather than softer, due to the cold leather surface being quite inelastic at low temps. So the normal pressure drop in cold games really doesn’t affect the ability to play the game. A football at 72 degrees and 10 psi would feel very soft. A football at 12 degrees and 10 psi would not.

  175. all4patriots says:
    Jul 27, 2015 9:23 AM

    Not one ‘science’ article has stated that cold footballs dont feel deflated. there were patriot balls up to 2 PSI low. I dont care if its 12 degrees outside, an NFL qb would notice that. And if you dont say anything and let the game go 4 full quarters then how many PSI would it drop? Double to 4 PSI low? So in other cold weather games when no one says anything the balls just deflate 4 PSI and no one notices???? Do you honestly think, no matter what the temp, that an NFL qb cant notice a 4 PSI difference? thats just plain ridiculous to believe.

  176. whywerule says:
    Jul 27, 2015 8:30 AM

    Yes brady did well in the superbowl with fully inflated balls………..but that was a warm weather game. Lets see his stats when it gets cold outside and he has to use fully inflated balls. Thats when we’ll see how good he is, the dude doesnt throw the ball longer than 10 yds in the air regardless so id hope and NFL qb can make 7 yd slant passes. But either way- in cold weather his productivity will drop and the team fumbles will increase. Then we’ll hear about how thats all a ‘coincidence’ too. Time will tell. But if deflating balls doesnt give him a big advantage, then why would he do it? Thats like saying A-Rod coulda had the same numbers without PED’s, it never really helped him lol.

  177. “It would really be something if these new procedures reveal that footballs routinely lose some air pressure during games, and that the whole Deflategate “scandal” was the result of nothing more than footballs losing a little air because they were used in a game.”


    This has to mean penalties V pats/Brady are going away right? If not the team and Brady will HAVE to go after Goodell, Wells and the league for damages next offseason.

    PV=nRT and the NFL is not exempt.

  178. redrew says:Jul 26, 2015 3:39 PM

    Did the pill-popping junkie owner of the Colts approve this new directive. You’d think Irsay would still be exhausted from throwing an entire season in the Suck for Luck campaign.
    ————————————————-

    Blatant Cheating–Colts Fans loved it!
    #AFCFinalist

  179. letsgobuffalo says: “And if you dont say anything and let the game go 4 full quarters then how many PSI would it drop? Double to 4 PSI low? ”


    It is only the temperature that matters. Time doesn’t matter. No air is leaving the football.

    If you set a football at 70 degrees to 13 psi
    Cool it to 50 degrees, it measures 12 psi
    30 degrees = 11 psi
    10 degrees = 10 psi
    -10 degrees = 9 psi

    But then if you warm it up to 70 degrees, it again reads 13 psi!

    So the only way for a football to be 4 psi lower than you expected it to be is to play long enough in 10 below zero weather for the football itself to reach that temperature. PSI does not keep dropping the longer you play.

    Are there schools in Buffalo?

  180. RegisHawk says:
    Jul 27, 2015 9:09 AM

    LOL…have you read anything your confreres have been writing? It’s all the same pab. The fact that it either has no meaning or no truth to it doesn’t stop them one bit. Can’t wait for the next comparison to Greg Hardy!!!

    ——–

    Laugh all you want. Just because you don’t believe it doesn’t mean it isn’t true. And just because you can yell Cheater! (and think you are funny while doing it) doesn’t make it so.

    You just don’t look very smart doing it. It’s too bad, because I’ve read some of your posts on other threads and you offer some good and interesting observation. But on anything Patriots…..it a different story.

  181. Jul 27, 2015 9:34 AM

    all4patriots says:
    Jul 27, 2015 9:23 AM

    Not one ‘science’ article has stated that cold footballs dont feel deflated. there were patriot balls up to 2 PSI low. I dont care if its 12 degrees outside, an NFL qb would notice that. And if you dont say anything and let the game go 4 full quarters then how many PSI would it drop? Double to 4 PSI low? So in other cold weather games when no one says anything the balls just deflate 4 PSI and no one notices???? Do you honestly think, no matter what the temp, that an NFL qb cant notice a 4 PSI difference? thats just plain ridiculous to believe.
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    Mortenson’s infomation sources were false!!!!
    Try to keep up. The NFL never corrected it and neither did ESPN? Why? Didn’t help the King Goodell’s case? Oh…the shame…

  182. all4patriots says:
    Jul 27, 2015 9:56 AM

    letsgobuffalo says: “And if you dont say anything and let the game go 4 full quarters then how many PSI would it drop? Double to 4 PSI low? ”


    It is only the temperature that matters. Time doesn’t matter. No air is leaving the football.

    If you set a football at 70 degrees to 13 psi
    Cool it to 50 degrees, it measures 12 psi
    30 degrees = 11 psi
    10 degrees = 10 psi
    -10 degrees = 9 psi

    But then if you warm it up to 70 degrees, it again reads 13 psi!

    So the only way for a football to be 4 psi lower than you expected it to be is to play long enough in 10 below zero weather for the football itself to reach that temperature. PSI does not keep dropping the longer you play.

    Are there schools in Buffalo?

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    it’s a lot cause. he/she has posted that sort of stuff many times. for some reason believes that pressure will continue to decrease with time even after the ball temp is in equilibrium with air temp. or is just a really bad troll…..part of the art of trolling is making your argument at least minimally plausible…..not this guy/gal though

  183. The Colts and Ravens, maybe the Steelers as well. Want Brady punished so they can have an easer quest for Home Field in the Play Offs….
    Patriots normal record, avg 13-3 so if Brady is suspended for 4 games. 9-7 or 10-6 not goodell enough for a buy…

  184. If I am on the Patriots staff I employ an outside company to monitor these readings at the beginning of the game, halftime and and the end of the game. There is no way if we let the incompetent NFL do these reading what the true results will be. If not incompetent they have an agenda.

  185. It is only the temperature that matters. Time doesn’t matter. No air is leaving the football.
    ===
    Time matters in that timing matters.

    Timing matters because gases don’t cool at a constant rate. If you plot temperature (Y) over time(X), you’ll see a curve that is steep at first and then shallow before going flat at equilibrium. The rate of heat flow (cooling or warming) is dependent on the difference in temperature between the heat source (here: the football) and the heat sink (here: the cold outdoor environment). A larger difference means faster heat flow and more temperature change. If you measure balls immediately after moving them from hot to cold or cold to hot, you will be measuring them while they are changing. That’s OK if you’re also measuring the temperature of the balls and the time from the temperature shift, but if you’re ignoring time and temperature at measurement and treating the balls as if they should be at the field or locker room temps, you will be disappointed and confused.

  186. lyfordjr says: (Lie-ford)
    Jul 27, 2015 6:03 AM

    Both McNally and Jastremski deny that that the “he” in that text is Brady, and that the “them” is footballs. McNally was trying to deal with season tickets that his family owned, and Jastremski was talking to someone else about them for him. And the Patriots identified that person, and interviewed that person, and offered him to Wells to explain that text and that conversation, and Wells said, basically, “thanks, but no thanks.” Because he was not interested in any explanation that didn’t involve Brady and footballs.”
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    Except he was interviewed by Wells. P 84-85. They called him JF and JF had no idea how that text statement ties into himself selling tickets. JF also refused to turn in any electronic/phone records.

    The Brady jock strap carrying chowda headed tin foil hatters club lie 1000 and 1001 shot down in flames.

  187. fanofpft says:
    Jul 27, 2015 5:10 PM

    Except he was interviewed by Wells. P 84-85. They called him JF and JF had no idea how that text statement ties into himself selling tickets. JF also refused to turn in any electronic/phone records.

    The Brady jock strap carrying chowda headed tin foil hatters club lie 1000 and 1001 shot down in flames.
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    I posted the exact text exchange with the times stamped. I’ll do it again:

    9: 05: 45 McNally: Tom sucks, I’m going to
    make that next ball a (expletive) balloon

    9: 07: 08 Jastremski: Talked to him last
    night. He actually brought you up…

    Yes, one WOULD wonder how this little conversation has ANYTHING to do with someone trying to sell tickets and NOT about footballs… since the word “ball” is used and the word “tickets” doesn’t appear anywhere. Or how the “him” and “he” could refer to anyone other than “Tom.” Anyone from the Pats Fan Junior Lawyers and Scientists Club care to explain?

    Remember, though, this is the same team that expects us to believe the Deflator nickname refers to weight loss, and that what he was threatening to go to ESPN with was getting free athletic gear without his boss knowing.

  188. “It would really be something if these new procedures reveal that footballs routinely lose some air pressure during games, and that the whole Deflategate “scandal” was the result of nothing more than footballs losing a little air because they were used in a game.

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    Of course if that were to be found … it would be an un talked about, back page story.

  189. “In what former NFL head of officiating Mike Pereira terms “an overreaction” to the controversy, the NFL told officials this weekend that they will have to change the way they go about getting footballs ready for play.”

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    Translation … The NFL is admitting that they had no protocol in place and no real understanding as how to monitor air pressure.

    One part of Brady’s legal appeal refers specifically to this change.

  190. Are the referees going to now be constantly inflating and/or deflating footballs due to the prevailing weather conditions? They only have a 1psi margin that those balls have to stay in.

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