Stephen A. Smith “hears” (doesn’t know) Tom Brady destroyed his phone

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ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith craves attention, so I always hesitate before writing about his outlandish claims. I hesitated before I wrote that Smith hinted Chip Kelly was racist, and I hesitated before writing about Smith’s comments on today’s episode of ESPN First Take.

But ignoring Smith won’t make him go away, so let’s just deal head on with it. Smith claimed today that he has a source telling him that the NFL is likely to uphold Tom Brady’s four-game suspension, and that Brady destroyed his cell phone to hide text messages to the Patriots’ ball boys.

“I’m hearing that Tom Brady actually destroyed his cell phone,” Smith said on the air.

Smith later clarified that he was just “hearing” that Brady destroyed his phone, and can’t confirm that for certain.

“I don’t know,” Smith added.

Regarding the first part of Smith’s report, that the NFL is “likely” to uphold Brady’s suspension, that comes across as little more than a guess. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell either will or won’t uphold Brady’s suspension, and claiming that he’s “likely” to go either way at this point doesn’t mean much. It especially doesn’t mean much coming from someone like Smith, who has no history of scoops coming out of the league office. If ESPN’s respected veteran NFL reporters say they’re “hearing” what Goodell is “likely” to do, we can reasonably surmise that they’re “hearing” it from well-placed sources within the league office. Even if such a report turned out to be wrong, if it came from a respected reporter it was probably based on contact with sources who are in a position to know what they’re talking about. When it comes from Smith, it doesn’t mean anything.

The part about Brady destroying his cell phone — the part that Smith acknowledges he doesn’t “know” — just sounds silly. Brady has already refused to hand over his phone to the Ted Wells investigation. It’s not like Wells has the power to send the cops into Brady’s house to execute a search warrant and seize his phone. Why would Brady need to destroy it? And even if Brady did destroy his physical phone, that wouldn’t make the records of any texts or calls to the Patriots’ ball boys disappear. The “report” doesn’t make a lot of sense, and if the “reporter” “hears” something like that, he needs to express more skepticism and ask his “source” to clarify where this “information” is coming from.

But that’s not how Smith operates. If he “hears” something that will get us all talking, he’ll repeat it on the air. And now we’re talking about Stephen A. Smith. Mission accomplished.

331 responses to “Stephen A. Smith “hears” (doesn’t know) Tom Brady destroyed his phone

  1. No worries, I’m sure since this is such a HUGE matter of national security that the TSA will hand those texts over… no problem.

  2. .
    I heard that 11 out of 12 game balls were more than 2 lbs under game weight. I heard this from ESPN super lackey, Chris Mortenson and it was sworn to in writing by NFL league president, Gardi.
    .

  3. Smith broke the LeBron to the Heat story and is very plugged in with Pats arch rival Miami sports community. Don’t be too quick to dismiss him. Not saying he’s right, but he’s definitely got sources.

  4. Any text messages on Brady’s phone would be on the phones to those two equipment guys would be on their phones, which the NFL had full access.

    The NFL wanted Brady’s phone for a fishing expedition.

  5. STEPHEN A. STUPID. First off Brady I am sure knows that destroying a phone does not destroy messages. Plus why does he need to since he is not legally compelled to give them his phone anyhow. More likely another bogus NFL office leak to try and squirm out of the box they have placed themselves in. FREE TOM BRADY!!!

  6. Lol. That’s ludacris. they already have all messages on the ball boys phones including all from brady. This is laughable.
    I’m going to come back in an hour and read what the trolls have to say.

  7. The next “scoop” that this blovating windbag “reports” that turns out to be correct (read: true) will be the first. S.A. Smith is the absolute worst of the worst talking heads out there. He has no credibility.

  8. He is digging his own grave.

    NFL should absolutely call his bluff, because when this goes to federal court his text messages will be subpoenaed from the phone carrier, and everyone will see the truth.

  9. Obviously he is guilty and it is a joke they are trying to appeal it. I used to not think this was such a big deal until this weekend. Me and my buddies were tossing an NFL ball around and some people were having a hard time getting a good grip to throw a tight spiral. We released some air on the ball (how much I have no idea) and EVERY single person was able to throw the ball harder, farther, and with a tighter spiral after releasing the air. It honestly made me think how badly Brady and the pats have been cheating for years. They had some slouch henchmen run into the bathroom and release air in the balls. I mean it is cheating. Suspended? DOUG KICK HIM OFF THE TOUR!

  10. How does this moron still have a job? His unsubstantiated rantings are so far from any definition of objective reporting
    that it is a travesty that he is given a public pulpit to issue them from ESPN should be ashamed of itself to even have this fool on it staff, let alone pay him for his trash.
    Even on the face of it his “story” lacks credence as any text message between Brady and the ball boys would appear on both phones, not just on Brady’s and the ballboy’s phones were already in the hands of the investigators.

  11. When he goes to federal court his phone records whill be subpoenaed from the carrier.

    This story doesn’t add up, as everyone knows destroying the phone doesn’t matter at all. That’s like destroying the hard drive on a computer and thinking nobody can recover it.

  12. It’s the ESPN way. It doesn’t matter if it is true, just throw it out there and hope it sticks – it worked for Chris Mortensen.

  13. ESPN – the NFL’s propoganda network – has yet to correct or retract the story provided by NFL sources that 11 of 12 footballs were under-inflated by 2.0 psi

    So this doesn’t exactly hold a lot of credibility – aside from the fact that the NFL is clearly getting desparate to distract attention from a conspiracy among owners and former Jets executives in the NFL HQ that show how corrupt they are

    Besides – the NFL already has the texts that the equipment managers received from Brady

    Doesn’t Smith comprehend that there’s TWO phones involved and the NFL has already scoured them?

    It must have been obvious to Brady and Kessler that Wells had nothing and was desperately fishing for something to twist out of context to justify the $5 million paycheck he received from Goodell ($45 million in the last 2 years total)

    Why would Brady assist them in the conspiracy to slander his good name?

  14. If this goes to court, they would have subpoena power. So it does matter.

    If true, he’s guilty as sin.

    Still, I’m betting the carriers have records we could see.

  15. To the NFL, and everyone making money off it (Smith!):

    Targeting arguably (inarguable to me) the best player in the league is not in your best interest.

    The jealousy that permeates all these ex-players, media, owners, fans, etc. has reached critical mass. Any more and it’s over.

  16. First take is the worst show on TV. Stephen A and skip Bayless are the biggest narcissist blowhards. The way they talk like everything they say so insightful and original is unwatchable. It’s kinda like they’re this comment board verbalized.

  17. Stephen A Smith probably heard it from Stephen A Smith while in front of Stephen A Smith’s mirror. It’s not like Stephen A Smith listens to anyone other than Stephen A Smith. But enough about Stephen A Smith listening to Stephen A Smith, Stephen A Smith wants to hear about how much you love listening to Stephen A Smith.

    Among the many reasons no one can take the noises that come out of the toilet BSPN has become is their continued employment of that buffoon while they continue to jettison quality independent thinkers.

  18. The NFL did NOT have full access to both equipment guys’ phones. They had full access to the full time employee since his phone was company issued. The part time guy (the weight loss “deflator” guy) only turned over copies of texts messages (which means he could have held back other text messages).

    SAS is a blowhard…….

  19. He wanted the Seahawks to win so bad because they have a black QB and in his mind that would have helped with the stigma that black QBs aren’t very good. It looked like someone kicked his puppy towed his car and his wife left him the day after the Super Bowl. Priceless!

  20. PAts logic:

    -Mortensen report: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars
    -Sal Paolatonio report about owners: ESPN is the beacon of truth
    -Stephen A. Smith about Brady’s phone: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars.

    Whatever suits their agenda I guess

  21. “flaccotoboldin says:Jul 28, 2015 11:09 AM

    If this goes to court, they would have subpoena power. So it does matter.

    If true, he’s guilty as sin.

    Still, I’m betting the carriers have records we could see.”

    lol, they would not have subpoena power in court. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

  22. “First Take” is not a news or reporting show. It’s a tabloid hour with two characters created by that network. Watch it once and try to take it seriously. Neither Smith nor Bayless believes a word they say. It’s a soap opera.

  23. That’s funny… I hear Smith is being “pressured” by ESPN to say that in order to keep his job. “Well Stephen, you said this about that on this date,so you either say this or ask Bill Simmons if he needs a partner”.

  24. But ignoring Smith won’t make him go away

    You’re mistaken. I’ve ignored him for years and live a nearly perfect SAS-free life.

  25. “And even if Brady did destroy his physical phone, that wouldn’t make the records of any texts or calls to the Patriots’ ball boys disappear.”

    That’s true, but it still doesn’t mean Tom Brady knew that when he allegedly destroyed the phone. People do stupid things all the time only to later realize that the stupid thing they did doesn’t protect them from their own stupidity.

  26. I remember when Stephen A just stuck to basketball, he actually had great analysis, and then he became a social commentator, rumor mongering, jack of all trades inept analyst. Good luck with those that still watch that network.

  27. I think that Patriot fans and Patriot haters can agree on a few things. One is that Stephen A. Smith is a loud mouthed moron with zero integrity or legitimacy.

  28. I hear Stephen A. Smith has mommy issues and wets the bed. I mean, I’m not sure, but that’s what I hear.

  29. “tajuara says:Jul 28, 2015 11:13 AM

    PAts logic:

    -Mortensen report: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars
    -Sal Paolatonio report about owners: ESPN is the beacon of truth
    -Stephen A. Smith about Brady’s phone: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars.

    Whatever suits their agenda I guess”

    You do understand that we know for a fact that Mortensen was wrong, right? We also know that the leak had to have come from either the NFL or the Colts, and that nobody at the NFL ever reached out to correct the false information.

    You can understand at least that much, right?

  30. Hahhaha what the hell.. You don’t obtain phone information by holding the phone in your hand? It does not matter if you destroy the phone or not.. You just go to Brady’s telephone provider.. Damn ESPN

  31. That is so dumb. Any texts to the Ball Boys would be on their phones too. If he had them using burners then he would have been using one also. If they are counting on his physical phone he could have just as easily deleted the messages. It would have been the same difference.

  32. “flaccotoboldin says

    Still, I’m betting the carriers have records we could see.”

    You don’t need to “bet” on that, because it’s an easily-discovered fact. Cellular carriers log text messages and phone call records. It’s not voodoo. It’s actually common knowledge. Even to Tom Brady.

  33. Tiger, you are wrong. They asked for any electronic communications regarding this. It was not just to JJ. And we all know he does have messages that are relevant. His own agent said that. However, I do not believe this story. Tom is the only one who will ever know what is on his phone, which is one of the main reasons this will never go to court.

  34. for some reason I get the feeling this is going to become part of letsgobuffalo’s repertoire

  35. ESPN is solely responsible for the inflation of this story. This just doesn’t make sense to anyone with any semblance of an education, on any level. #1 Destroying a phone does nothing to the records, as David notes in the article. #2 this would not come out, even if true, unless and until a court compels production of the phone and Brady is unable to. Why would Brady go into the appeal and say, “I don’t have my phone because I destroyed it. I am stating innocence but I just want you to know I destroyed my phone.” STEPHEN A, YOU ARE STOKING A FIRE BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR NAME IN THE HEADLINES!!! CONGRATS! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. HOWEVER, DO NOT CALL YOURSELF A SPORTS JOURNALIST, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT. YOU ARE A TABLOID WRITER AND FIRE STOKER.

  36. The only reason Brady would have for destroying his phone would be to keep private pictures of his wife from the prying eyes of the creeps at Park Avenue.

    Any evidence relevant to the case is accessible from his carrier. Unless he had a video of hiself instructing people how to deflate the balls. And if you believe that, Stephen A. needs a research assistant.

    Ted Wells phone records, on the other hand – now those would interesting when [not if] they are subpoenaed.

  37. apkyletexas says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:04 AM
    Smith broke the LeBron to the Heat story and is very plugged in with Pats arch rival Miami sports community.

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    I don;t even think Miami thinks Miami is the Pats arch-rival. J-E-T-S JOKES JOKES JOKES, maybe, but Miami is the team that wins when the pats need a game off in December.

  38. This team has a history of not playing by the rules. Weather it be the players, coaches down to the equipment people and the time clock operators – there have been multiple documented violations.
    Patriot fans like to say its all jealousy, but come on, really?! As a competitive fan, I want to see Brady out there playing every game. But as a sportsman who values the rules, I believe the suspension should be upheld.

    We’ll see?

  39. The bspn smear campaign goes on at the behest of the league.

    Absolutely disgusting. Goodall, Kensil, Pagano, Irsay, just jealous lowlifes.

  40. Some people just are naive enough to believe that destroying the phone gets rid of the “evidence”. Besides, the report already had the texts from the ball boys who deflated the balls per Brady’s requests.

  41. It has become known to me Steven A Smith that one Tom Brady has destroyed his phone. Although he catigorically denies what remains to be a solid truism boggles the mind. Furthermore, I have been handed photos of the phone…if you call 3rd graders artist renderings “photos”. Be that as it may, I consider the matter closed & the NFL should punish Brady to the letter of the law. So let it be written, so let it be done.

  42. It’s more probable than not that Goodell is generally aware that both Irsay and Bisciotti want Brady’s suspension upheld…..so in today’s NFL that’s just as good as actually influencing him.

    InfluenceGate case closed.

  43. tajuara says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:13 AM
    PAts logic:

    -Mortensen report: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars
    -Sal Paolatonio report about owners: ESPN is the beacon of truth
    -Stephen A. Smith about Brady’s phone: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars.

    Whatever suits their agenda I guess

    __________________________________

    Actually it goes like this:

    Mortensen – False report, issues no correction, tweet still up
    Paolatonio – True report, forced to back track by NFL and ESPN
    Smith – Ridiculous report just when more and more people are starting to side with Brady

    Whatever suits the NFL’s agenda

  44. Obviously Brady is guilty of something, otherwise he wouldn’t have refused to hand his phone over to Ted Wells…. That’s just common sense. So he has something to hide.

    If he would’ve came out right away and admitted his guilt, he’d be completely forgiven by now. In all honesty fans don’t really care about a few pounds of air as it sno different from a receiver wearin sticky gloves for better grip.

    Once again, the cover up is worse than the crime.

  45. Smith is a clown, but I’d guess about 25 percnt of America has broken their mobile phones in the last 6 MONTHS! They are designed to break in 18 mos

  46. NFL MO, put out false stuff and then make Kraft or whoever sign a confidentiality agreement to not be publicly dispute the report.
    See PSI numbers. Yes that happened.

  47. Yea they could subpoena phone records if the the phone was in his name, but if his wife is the account holder could they still get phone records? I’m not sure…This writer obviously hates Stephen A which is easy to do… But where is credibility when he is writing on Stephen A watching him on a job he wishes he had ? He is clown and a hater

  48. I’m not a Stephen Smith fan either, but generally he just says opinion things, like chip is racistss, this is more factual in nature (if its true). But Pats fans are so funny. “stephen a. smith doesnt know anything. Biscotti is a cry baby and a liar if he says hasnt talked to Roger about this. Irsay says he hasnt talked to roger since Jan- he is a liar.”. EVERYONE is a liar except for ppl in new england- seems fair lol. I remember when deflation first broke- everyone said it was BS and now look where we are- brady with a 4 game suspension. Regardless of this turns out- Brady could have given up his phone to begin with. Then he was banned 4 games. His only chance to fix this without a court was to show his phone (which he would have to do if it went to court) and he still refused. The fact is he wont ever show his phone. If he is willing to in court then he would have been willing to at the appeal.

  49. “If Brady’s phone exonerates him, why isn’t this a done deal yet?”

    Because they ignore anything that exonerates the Pats.

  50. IF Brady destroyed his phone, and he files a lawsuit, when the NFL subpoenas his phone, he is then guilty of destroying evidence. Correct?
    There is a federal law (evidentiary rules 26 and 27) requiring all evidence be preserved that MAY be requested in a legal action.
    What would be the reaction of Judge Doty to Brady’s lawyer telling him that the, possibly, most important piece of evidence to exonerate/convict Brady had been destroyed at his (Brady’s) direction?

  51. For the people who keep saying Brady won’t go to court because “his phone will be subpoenaed”

    YOU ARE WRONG

    , this is not a trial. There would be a judge presiding over whether Goodell has the authority to impose a discipline, hear an appeal and ultimately serve as judge, jury and executioner for an offense that has never before been regulated in NFL history. If you think some federal judge is going to play Law & Order for all of us to see, and if you think we’re going to get a recreation of the Wells report, I fear you will be sadly disappointed.

  52. Meanwhile, the site “acts” like Brady and the Pats’ PR firm “again.”

    Since the head guy thought it was a brilliant idea to compare a man facing life in prison to Brady facing a quarter-season suspension from a sports league to show a settlement doesn’t mean you’re guilty, let’s keep it there in a courtroom. Many, many people have in fact been dumb enough to destroy their cell phone thinking any incriminating material wouldn’t survive. Brady is not any more of a brain surgeon than you or I am. It’s certainly possible he IS that dumb, how good he is at throwing a football (deflated or otherwise) does not disprove that.

  53. Has anybody read any of the texts messages from the employees that were fired.
    looks obvious to me that they were involved in a cheating scheme.

  54. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Much like Aaron Hernandez breaking his phone into pieces and thinking he outsmarted the police, the cell companies would have records of who he texted. Between Brady, his agents, his lawyers, do you think that none of them know this?

  55. That picture lol.

    “Hey, Tom.”
    “Yeah?”
    “Where’s your phone? We need to check a few things.”
    “Oh, excuse me I need to take this call.”
    *pulls out fake phone and holds it to his ear

  56. Let’s see, Brady can suffer a suspension and a from the NFL for not cooperating and hiding things…. or he can suffer the wrath of a pissed off wife for showing the investigator and Roger nudes of his wife on the phone. Uh, the choice is pretty clear. Take the suspension.

  57. limakey says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:18 AM
    Tiger, you are wrong. They asked for any electronic communications regarding this. It was not just to JJ. And we all know he does have messages that are relevant. His own agent said that. However, I do not believe this story. Tom is the only one who will ever know what is on his phone, which is one of the main reasons this will never go to court.

    —-

    Again….

    They can only subpoena his phone if it goes to CIVIL COURT. If it goes to federal court it will be about the process.

  58. mvp43 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:26 AM

    Obviously Brady is guilty of something, otherwise he wouldn’t have refused to hand his phone over to Ted Wells…. That’s just common sense. So he has something to hide.
    ~~~~~~~~~
    OK mvp43, why don’t you post your texts so we can pull them out of context and make you into whatever we want.

    If you do not post your text messages here, then you are guilty because you must have something to hide…

  59. “tajuara says:Jul 28, 2015 11:13 AM

    PAts logic:

    -Mortensen report: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars
    -Sal Paolatonio report about owners: ESPN is the beacon of truth
    -Stephen A. Smith about Brady’s phone: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars.

    Haters Logic:

    -Mortensen report: it’s about the Pats so it must be true
    -Sal Paolatonio report about owners: No way the Pats are Cheaters
    -Stephen A. Smith about Brady’s phone: Are teams get owned by Tom Brady and it’s about the Pats so it must be true

  60. “Why would Brady need to destroy it? And even if Brady did destroy his physical phone, that wouldn’t make the records of any texts or calls to the Patriots’ ball boys disappear. ”

    Here’s why it matters. It’s one thing for the NFL to say “Tom, please hand over your phone” but “Verizon Wireless, can you please hand over the records for Individual X for the dates of”.

    The first scenario looks like an investigation, the second looks like a witch hunt.

  61. dougchillin says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:07 AM
    Obviously he is guilty and it is a joke they are trying to appeal it. I used to not think this was such a big deal until this weekend. Me and my buddies were tossing an NFL ball around and some people were having a hard time getting a good grip to throw a tight spiral. We released some air on the ball (how much I have no idea) and EVERY single person was able to throw the ball harder, farther, and with a tighter spiral after releasing the air. It honestly made me think how badly Brady and the pats have been cheating for years. They had some slouch henchmen run into the bathroom and release air in the balls. I mean it is cheating. Suspended? DOUG KICK HIM OFF THE TOUR!

    ——-

    Heres some news for you. The NFL wants it to be easy to throw the ball. That’s why they let the QBs prep the ball. The process to get the ball to be tacky is crazy. Read what Eli Manning does. The reason the ball needs to be inflated to at least 12.5 isn’t to make the ball harder to throw. Its to make sure the ball is inflated. There has to be some limit but it’s not to make the game harder. If they wanted to do that they could just make them play with balls that come out of the box from the factory.

  62. “When it comes from Smith, it doesn’t mean anything.”
    ******************************
    Sounds pretty personal to me. If Smith comes out and says Chip Kelley doesn’t have a racist bone in his body, then you would have no problem with his “reporting”. It’s quite contradictory to claim you have faith in people like Shefter, who in the JPP debacle, shows he can’t be trusted.

    That said, Stephen A. Smith is pampas, bombastic and a clown in his delivery, but here, you just hate what he had to say.
    ****************************
    “Why would Brady need to destroy it? ” You thinks this is crazy, yet aren’t ready to claim everything he said as crazy? Why would he destroy his phone? As a reporter, it’s incumbent upon you to ask Tom Brady if he did it, before condemning the report. What tells you he didn’t destroy it?

    Of course I know that records of the texts should remain on the ISP server, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t destroy his phone. You have your reasons for hating Smith, but why not see how things play out before dismissing what he had to say, because you simply don’t know.

  63. Im sure when he says “Destroyed” his phone- im assuming he doesnt mean he took a hammer to it like ya’ll are suggesting. Prob more like taking all this time to wipe clean any traces there may be (not sure if thats possible though). I’d imagine whats out there is already out there and findable if this goes to court. But Brady knows if it goes to court then his texts and emails will be subpoena’d. Sooooo why didnt he do that at the appeal? It was his last chance to avoid court, Roger was very open about needing “new information” to change his decision. Seems really simple for brady to just hand over his phone and he still refused. I cannot see Brady FINALLY saying “ok lets go to court, u can look at my phone now”.

  64. Word on the street is that Brady through it out the window on his way home.

    The commish has troops on the ground scouring the road side.

  65. dumbdolphinfan says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:32 AM

    This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Much like Aaron Hernandez breaking his phone into pieces and thinking he outsmarted the police, the cell companies would have records of who he texted. Between Brady, his agents, his lawyers, do you think that none of them know this?

    A criminal investigation is one thing. Those phone records are evidence in a criminal trial. Tom Brady’s phone records are personal property (subject to NSA snooping) and the NFL can’t subpoena them.

  66. The sheer volume of what Stephen A. Smith doesn’t know boggles the mind!

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    As does the volume at which Stephen A. Smith speaks of things of which he does not know.

  67. patsbrat says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:35 AM

    Are you that dumb to compare posting texts on a public site to a PRIVATE INVESTIGATION asking you to just tell you whats on your phone and not even requesting to take control of it??? Wow pats fans are getting further and further from reality. Brady has a team of lawyers and if ANYTHING got out he’s make so much money it would be sick. He had nothing to worry about- please keep your idiotic comparisons to yourself going forward.

  68. Unlike Aaron Hernandez, Tom Brady is smart enough to know that you can’t eliminate text messages by destroying a phone. I’m pretty sure he’s also smart enough to know how bad it would look if he did destroy the phone. Finally, the NFL can’t make him give it up anyway since they aren’t the law and this isn’t a criminal case. All they can do is ask him nicely and hope that he complies. Maybe if they say “pretty please with sugar on top”?

  69. No worries, I’m sure since this is such a HUGE matter of national security that the TSA will hand those texts over… no problem.

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    The Transportation Safety Agency will turn over cell phone records?

  70. Almost as hard to believe as the Deflator nickname refers to weight loss, the ball boy’s threat to go to ESPN was just to spill the beans about getting free shoes, and that the text exchange about Tom asking if McNally was feeling stressed was actually about his efforts to sell his season tickets.

  71. One correction whitetrash69,

    we “heard” last Saturday on WEEI radio from Sal Paolantonio that Irsay and Biscotti were pressuring/urging Goodell to not reduce Brady’s suspension.

    If Brady were to destroy his phone (which makes no sense so records are available)

    Free Brady
    Next Stop Federal Court
    Brady will raise the banner followed by Goodell S—- chant from 65,000 +on September 10th

  72. Lmao. This is hilarious. Mind u its coming from the main network that reported 11 of the 12 balls were drastically deflated.

    This non-sense actually works in Bradys favor for a defamation lawsuit against BSPN, the NFL, Goodell and Wells.

    He should sue all of them for $1 billion for their malicious reporting and flat out lies.

    Anyone with a brain knows BSPN is the NFLs lap dog and mouthpiece disguised as “journalism”

  73. The slander train continues. ESPN has completely lost me during this whole fiasco. They’ve proven time and again that they have zero integrity and will report anything that will cause a stir and generate TV ratings and website hits. I will never visit their website again, and I will grudgingly watch football games that pique my interest. But as far as being a reliable news outlet, I am DONE.

  74. The initial court case, if there is one, will concern the arbitration clauses of the cba. No phone subpoena as it is irrelevant.
    The subpoena will arrive in the civil suit over the defamation suit the Patriots fans are so vehemently predicting Brady will file.
    I personally hope he does. The media will need a calculator to keep track of the number of times Pats employees (and Belichek and Brady) declare their fifth amendment rights to avoid self incrimination.

  75. bullcharger says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:37 AM

    Thats a great story man, at what point again is it legal to drop the PSI below 12.5? Yes they are turning it more into a passer league- but that means QB’s can just break rules to make the ball easier to throw???? lol.

  76. As Dan Wetzel tweeted: It’s good that the NFL is way too ethical to ever leak wild info in an attempt to smear a player just prior to a controversial decision

  77. mf7krime says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:36 AM
    Woo. The Patriots ball washers are out in force this morning.

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    …as are the Patriots ball-breakers

  78. Same idiot who claimed Brady was “racist” because he did not go to the white house, but said nothing over the black players not going

  79. I despise ESPN and haven’t watched anything in months.
    But I still read some of their propaganda that gets forwarded to other outlets.

    Next time they play a game televized on that network,
    I’d like to see Brady ear hole everyone on the on field set
    and then ask, ‘do those footballs feel inflated enough for you?’

  80. This garbage of dropping rumors as facts by the media is dangerous and ridiculous. They need to hold these clowns accountable for misinformation.

  81. dougchillin says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:07 AM

    Obviously he is guilty and it is a joke they are trying to appeal it. I used to not think this was such a big deal until this weekend. Me and my buddies were tossing an NFL ball around and some people were having a hard time getting a good grip to throw a tight spiral. We released some air on the ball (how much I have no idea) and EVERY single person was able to throw the ball harder, farther, and with a tighter spiral after releasing the air. It honestly made me think how badly Brady and the pats have been cheating for years. They had some slouch henchmen run into the bathroom and release air in the balls. I mean it is cheating. Suspended? DOUG KICK HIM OFF THE TOUR!
    ———————————-

    The rest of the haters have made it clear that a deflated football cannot be thrown as far as a properly inflated football, so come back when you have educated yourself on the hater non-rhetoric.

  82. But but but ITS NOT FAIR!!! So says the fan base of the team who skirts rules and outright cheats to gain advantages. Their fans claim persecution. I hope Brady sits. Love to see all those pouty faces. He’s such a “competitor”

  83. DerekCarrsGoldenArm says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:36 AM

    So your saying the NFL should just ask for Tom’s physical phone, and whatever s on there they deal with. But if they ask Verizon for the phone records to get ALL the information including deleted texts then its a “witch hunt”? Ummmm i believe that’s called FACT FINDING. If you think your g/f is cheating and you ask to see her phone and she says “ok give me 20 mins in the bathroom alone with it then you can see it” would you feel comfortable when u look and dont see anything bad? lol. The only way to do this is go through his carrier to see every text. Like it or not the NFL offered Tom a way out. They said “you look at the phone and tell us whats on there relevant to this case or anything involving JJ or jM” and he refused. Whats the NFL supposed to do? Just say “ok keep the evidence, we’ll just assume your innocent”.

  84. The best part about this whole thing is there are literally millions of people who just have a small idea about what happened throughout this whole mess.

    Those people will know something once the season starts, and that is Brady is accused of cheating, will not admit to it, and is suspended. Thereby triggering notions that he must be guilty and he’ll never be able to wash that away despite the hysterical defense of those crackpots who send people like Ted Kennedy to ‘the city that the Redskins call home” (how about that MDS?).

    I think I will refer to D.C. in that way here going forward.

  85. dougchillin says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:07 AM
    Obviously he is guilty and it is a joke they are trying to appeal it. I used to not think this was such a big deal until this weekend. Me and my buddies were tossing an NFL ball around and some people were having a hard time getting a good grip to throw a tight spiral. We released some air on the ball (how much I have no idea) and EVERY single person was able to throw the ball harder, farther, and with a tighter spiral after releasing the air.

    =================================

    Seriously? It’s that simple? And now you’ve told every other potential QB in the world. I can’t wait until camps get in full swing!!

  86. DerekCarrsGoldenArm says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:39 AM
    dumbdolphinfan says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:32 AM

    This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Much like Aaron Hernandez breaking his phone into pieces and thinking he outsmarted the police, the cell companies would have records of who he texted. Between Brady, his agents, his lawyers, do you think that none of them know this?

    A criminal investigation is one thing. Those phone records are evidence in a criminal trial. Tom Brady’s phone records are personal property (subject to NSA snooping) and the NFL can’t subpoena them.
    ========================================

    Ok, and he already told them no, he won’t show you his phone (and it’s again, redundant as they had the other end of the messages and it would be on there anyway).

    Therefore he would have no motive to destroy his phone, as you are right, they can’t force him to comply and he already told them he wouldn’t.

    Not complicated and you would know this if you bothered to you know, read the article you are commenting on. SMH

  87. Hey Mr Smith if the league needed Brady’s phone they could just subpoena his carrier for his activity. HIs Carrier is not under any confidentiality agreement like Docs and lawyers

  88. Pats fans have swarmed this site in the past couple months spewing their idiocy in attempt to defend their man crush, Brady. Bottom line is that the guy and his coach are cheaters many times over and got off extremely light with just 4 games. Anybody outside of NE knows this.

    Can’t wait to hear the excuses from these Pats fans when the Patriots don’t even make the playoffs this year.

  89. And I suppose that he got his info from the great teller of the truth Jim Irsay??

  90. qdog112 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:37 AM

    Of course I know that records of the texts should remain on the ISP server, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t destroy his phone. You have your reasons for hating Smith, but why not see how things play out before dismissing what he had to say, because you simply don’t know.
    ___________________________________

    Ok, we’ll extend the courtesy to Stephen A. Smith that NOBODY on this board is extending to Tom Brady. Sure.

  91. mmack66 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:52 AM
    dougchillin says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:07 AM

    Obviously he is guilty and it is a joke they are trying to appeal it. I used to not think this was such a big deal until this weekend. Me and my buddies were tossing an NFL ball around and some people were having a hard time getting a good grip to throw a tight spiral. We released some air on the ball (how much I have no idea) and EVERY single person was able to throw the ball harder, farther, and with a tighter spiral after releasing the air. It honestly made me think how badly Brady and the pats have been cheating for years. They had some slouch henchmen run into the bathroom and release air in the balls. I mean it is cheating. Suspended? DOUG KICK HIM OFF THE TOUR!
    ———————————-

    The rest of the haters have made it clear that a deflated football cannot be thrown as far as a properly inflated football, so come back when you have educated yourself on the hater non-rhetoric.

    ——————————–

    My guess is Brady isn’t an athlete so he has weak hands and a properly inflated ball slips out into a duck when he tries to throw hard. Yes a heavier ball with fly farther with a stronger person who can grip it throws it. I am saying Brady isn’t that person so he needs it deflated in order to throw it far. Go try what i tried and come back and tell me the difference isn’t clear. If Brady has a bad year this year with properly inflated balls I will lose ALL respect and consider his entire career one big fraud.

  92. “The Transportation Safety Agency will turn over cell phone records?”

    Believe he was referring to the Department Of Homeland Stupidity

  93. dougchillin says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:07 AM
    Obviously he is guilty and it is a joke they are trying to appeal it. I used to not think this was such a big deal until this weekend. Me and my buddies were tossing an NFL ball around and some people were having a hard time getting a good grip to throw a tight spiral. We released some air on the ball (how much I have no idea) and EVERY single person was able to throw the ball harder, farther, and with a tighter spiral after releasing the air. It honestly made me think how badly Brady and the pats have been cheating for years. They had some slouch henchmen run into the bathroom and release air in the balls. I mean it is cheating. Suspended? DOUG KICK HIM OFF THE TOUR!
    ——————————————————————

    Hurry up Packers’ fans and somehow get DOUGCHILLIN hired as Aaron Rodgers personal coach!! Think of how much better your QB would be if he softened up his footballs instead of trying to make them more inflated.

  94. If this is true (not saying it is)…But, if he destroyed his phone, AND refused to turn over hard copies of relevant text communication, the NFL has all the leverage (all about obstruction). It will stay at 4 games, and would take a drawn out legal process to overturn it (possible, but unlikely). This is a pretty big statement by SAS. Since, if it’s true it would be PR checkmate for the NFL on TB.

  95. “We reject all unsubstantiated reports that don’t implicate the Ravens owner.” – Patriots fans

  96. Just by putting Stephen A. Smith’s name on a headline invites the masses to sharpen their talons and spit copious amounts of vitriol.

    HOWEVA!…not in a baseless spite filled troll fest.

    But in a therapeutic wholly deserving sort of way.

    Seriously, why does that clown still have a job?

  97. letsgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:57 AM

    Awwww thats cute the Pat’s losers are copying my screen name to post under it. More cheating from new england- SHOCKER!

    ____________________________________

    WIDE RIGHT!

  98. kurdishpats1 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:12 AM
    Um, destroying your cell phone doesn’t delete your texts.

    Wow.
    —————–
    Tammy Shady is probably to stupid to know this.

  99. Meh, we know Stephen A’s schtick.

    If it were Vince Young, Michael Vick, Geno Smith, etc. he’d be standing up defending their right to do what they want with their cell phones.

  100. If you hearing its probably true. There is a reason Tom Shady won’t cooperate. He’s a scumbag cheater and the world knows it. Asterisks are in his dreams.

  101. Care to explain why you are impersonating me and several other people, pats fans?
    Are you afraid you aren’t smart enough to challenge our points?
    Do you admire us?
    The inferiority complex of Pats fans have grown bigger than I ever imagined.

  102. Can’t wait to hear the excuses from these Pats fans when the Patriots don’t even make the playoffs this year.

    Yeah because we haven’t seen this comment before.

    So sick of you CRYBABIES!

    I can’t believe it Patriots fans are posting comments on an article about the Patriots or a Patriots player.

    Why is it that you are okay with NON pats fans swarming every Patriots artical.

  103. As far as the “no way Brady’s as dumb as Hernandez, not possible, etc.” crowd goes…why? Why is Brady inherently smarter than Hernandez? His lawyers? Back when Hernandez still had money, his lawyers were first class too. Brady could be just that dumb too.

  104. sweetnlow44 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:58 AM

    Pats fans have swarmed this site in the past couple months spewing their idiocy in attempt to defend their man crush, Brady. Bottom line is that the guy and his coach are cheaters many times over and got off extremely light with just 4 games. Anybody outside of NE knows this.

    Can’t wait to hear the excuses from these Pats fans when the Patriots don’t even make the playoffs this year.

    ———

    Not a surprise when all the articles on the topic in the last couple months tell them exactly what they want to hear.

  105. I heard that Mr. Smith had to just use his middle initial “A” instead of his middle name because he didn’t want people to know that his momma named him Stephen A–hole Smith due to his crappin’ in his pants so much (still does, I hear)!

  106. Shouting lies about the Patriots organization and/or players, employees and fans of that organization is a an industry of its own, probably too large to be considered just a ‘cottage industry’, so it is no surprise that another member of ESPN, Mr. Smith, is joining the industry.

    Shouting those lies sells, and there is no real downside since the Pats organization, players, employees and fans have had too much integrity to go after all of the liars where it hurts – their pocketbook.

    The liars got their pound of flesh when the league took away two draft picks. The Pats and their fans will get their pound of flesh where it counts the most, on the field and when they are hoisting the Lombardi again in February 2016.

  107. I’m hearing, don’t know for sure that Stephen A Smith has no clue about anything that comes out of his mouth.

    He is a dumb jackass that should just shut the hell up and fall off the face of this earth as no one can stand him

    Again, I am just hearing this. I don’t know this for sure

  108. dougchillin says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:07 AM
    Obviously he is guilty and it is a joke they are trying to appeal it. I used to not think this was such a big deal until this weekend. Me and my buddies were tossing an NFL ball around and some people were having a hard time getting a good grip to throw a tight spiral. We released some air on the ball (how much I have no idea) and EVERY single person was able to throw the ball harder, farther, and with a tighter spiral after releasing the air. It honestly made me think how badly Brady and the pats have been cheating for years. They had some slouch henchmen run into the bathroom and release air in the balls. I mean it is cheating. Suspended? DOUG KICK HIM OFF THE TOUR!
    —————————————————————-

    Did it ever occur to you that maybe the ball was over-inflated to begin with? If you have no idea where it started and no idea what you deflated it to, how can you come to the conclusion that Brady cheated?

    You typed a paragraph about changing your mind about something using no evidence and which provides proof of nothing.

    That’s like swimming a lap in a pool and then concluding that you could swim across the ocean because it didn’t seem too difficult.

  109. After all the discovery of FRAUD committed by Goodell you would think that the haters would realize they are being pawned.

    Goodell still has that ‘carrot’ in front of you = Brady’s phone.
    He dangles it along and leads you any which way he desires and you still go chasing after it.

    If you want REAL EVIDENCE, demand to see the phones of Goodell, Vincent, Harbaugh, the Owners and NYC NFL Office.

    CORRUPTION = NFL & NYC & ESPN

  110. 1. Stephen A. Smith has little credibility.
    2. If it turns out that Brady actually did this, even though it is not an effective method of hiding incoming/outgoing texts from investigators, that would be enough to justify the suspension.

  111. My guess is Brady isn’t an athlete so he has weak hands and a properly inflated ball slips out into a duck when he tries to throw hard. Yes a heavier ball with fly farther with a stronger person who can grip it throws it. I am saying Brady isn’t that person so he needs it deflated in order to throw it far. Go try what i tried and come back and tell me the difference isn’t clear. If Brady has a bad year this year with properly inflated balls I will lose ALL respect and consider his entire career one big fraud.

    Then how do you explain the second of of the AFCCG when he was nearly perfect in bad weather with “properly inflated balls”

    What about the SB when he set the record for completion % with “properly inflated balls”

  112. Brady’s reputation is so trashed, I would believe anything anyone said about him.

  113. portnoychunk says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:05 PM

    Id rather lose a close SB with dignity than win them by cheating.

    Besides the point- brady has already refused to show his phone, if he broke it is the same action as refusing to show it. This article is pointless if its true or false. Its funny tho how every report makes brady looks bad- it cant be true tho- EVERYONE is in on this big conspiracy! The second Brady’s camp offered a settlement Roger knew he had them. No guilty person OFFERS a settlement or accepts any punishment. When someone settles out of court its b/c they know they are guilty and want lower than max penalty. Players should never offer a settlement- either your innocent and you fight for NO PUNISHMENT or you take what the NFL gives you. It should be simple.

  114. That is so dumb. Any texts to the Ball Boys would be on their phones too. If he had them using burners then he would have been using one also. If they are counting on his physical phone he could have just as easily deleted the messages. It would have been the same difference
    ————————–

    No, what is dumb is Shady not turning over copies of text messages if he actually isn’t Guilty.

    Best Regards

  115. The NYJ NFL FO has no credibility. 7 months later and they’re still timing placed leaks just before major decisions to cover up their incompetence and ineptitude and deflect attention away from the Fuhrer’s office.

    This is the most corrupt organization ever.

  116. My guess is Brady isn’t an athlete so he has weak hands and a properly inflated ball slips out into a duck when he tries to throw hard. Yes a heavier ball with fly farther with a stronger person who can grip it throws it. I am saying Brady isn’t that person so he needs it deflated in order to throw it far. Go try what i tried and come back and tell me the difference isn’t clear. If Brady has a bad year this year with properly inflated balls I will lose ALL respect and consider his entire career one big fraud.

    So he’s played in the NFL for 15 years but he isn’t an athlete.

    So if he prefers his footballs at 12.5 to 13psi he “isn’t an athlete”
    God, people are just stupid.

  117. tajuara says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:13 AM
    PAts logic:

    -Mortensen report: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars
    -Sal Paolatonio report about owners: ESPN is the beacon of truth
    -Stephen A. Smith about Brady’s phone: ESPN is garbage, bunch of liars.

    Whatever suits their agenda I guess

    If you actually listen to these three reports the 1st and 3rd sound desperate and have a personal agenda. If you listen to Sal’s you hear frustration and disbelief of the childish games that are going on and he kept his mouth shut long enough. Sal is fed up with the games the NFL and owners are playing while the other two are reaching for shock value

  118. Everybody is speculating. So what?

    This case should have been solved months ago.

    Keep the 4 game suspension in place and let Brady go to court. If he has a case, then he and the NFLPA have an opportunity to make and prove it.

  119. deflated balls, destroying phones, crying for a flag…All signs of a cheater cheating!

    This Brady guy offends me and must have an all season suspension

    All your rings are tainted…TAINTED!!!

    **NEW ENGLAND DEFLATRIOTS**

    J-E-T-S! Jets! Jets! Jets!

  120. Do we forget that ESPN stands for “Entertainment and Sports Programming Network”? This clearly falls under “Entertainment” because this is hilarious. How irresponsible do you have to be individually to use your nationally televised platform to contribute to the smear campaign? HAHA, I mean, I have nothing left in my anger tank. No one cares to think or analyze. This is quite literally pure tabloid enjoyment at this point and I thank Stephen for willing to be the dunce for the NFL.

  121. It’s obvious the Brady camp at this point realize that they’re cooked. Their negotiations and bargaining is a feeble attempt to BUY the suspension instead of serving it. They know their bluff on taking it to court will blow up in their face and are hoping they can scare Goodell into accepting a plea. But at the same time will try to spin it as NOT an admission of guilt so Tommy Boy can preserve whats left of his tarnished legacy. BRAVO!!!!

  122. That guy has had it out for Brady for a loooooong time. I gave up listening to anything he said, a looooong time ago. If he were not of minority racial origin, he’d have been fired a looong time ago for the things he has said.

    You should have ignored his claim, much like Dr. Oz is to be ignored. It’s all about ratings, and pandering to emotionally unstable and intellectually challenged people.

  123. whitetrash69 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:08 PM

    They avoid the truth by imperonating- they are doing that to me as well. I’ll point out facts, they respond by opinions about what ‘deflator’ means even to we have yet to hear from the horses mouth (JJ and JM) what their texts were about but instead they take the time to make fake profiles to impersonate us. The people of NE are as classless as Cry Brady, Belicheat and Kraft. Here is a FACT- Tom Brady, as of right now has been found GUILTY and is suspended. No crying can change his current status- which is a status for a reason. B/c of facts presented. Aaron hernandez’ mom can claim he’s innocent too even tho he has been found guilty but that doesnt change much now does it???

  124. footballgodtb12 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:47 AM
    I cancelled my subscription to ESPN….does that mean Stephen “A” Smith dissapears from the planet?
    ___________________________________
    I’ll bet a pretty penny you actually did not cancel your subscription to ESPN, unless you mean the magazine.

    It would be petty to downgrade a cable package and lose about 30 channels just because you can’t simply not watch ESPN. If you have Comcast or Verizon you gave up a bundle to remove one channel, so while you think you sound smart, I think you still have ESPN.

  125. This is just another 345 Park Avenue mis-direction play…Get someone loud on BSPN and have them say something, that way it becomes true!

    NFL, very, very sad.

  126. He didn’t destroy it; he gave it to HILLARY. She knew what to do with it.

  127. You guys really need to know that Tom Brady destroyed his phone to know he’s guilty? We already knew he was, except blind loyalist Pats fans that can’t admit that their team has more asterisks than championships.

  128. Whitetrash

    It is one person trolling you and others
    You can tell
    Because the posts all come within minutes of one another

    Trolling a poster is shameless

  129. When I hear his voice or see his face, the channel is immediately changed.

  130. Stephen A Smith needs to have evidence prior to stating this. But for a court to be involved they will have to make a decision based on ALL the evidence which is where they should summons Brady’s cell phone. Then the truth will come out one way or the other.

  131. Let me guess, he may have heard the voices in his head tell him that some with connections to someone close to the guy who picks up Tom Brady’s dogs poop who may have heard that Tom destroyed his phone.

    Seriously, I think the A. in Stephen A. Smith stands to A$$hat!

  132. What I find interesting is that over e weekend you have the report of owners pressuring Godell

    Now you have an ESPN report that tries to make Brady look bad, I heard but can’t confirm

    Is there anyone with an ounce of brains that doesn’t see through this sham?

    Even if you hate the patriots, this could not be any more transparent
    And said in a way that does not pass the malice test in a defamation suit.

    Clearly the Miami , Pittsburgh , Buffalo fans can see this for what it is

  133. letsgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:31 PM

    Here is a FACT- Tom Brady, as of right now has been found GUILTY and is suspended. No crying can change his current status- which is a status for a reason. B/c of facts presented. Aaron hernandez’ mom can claim he’s innocent too even tho he has been found guilty but that doesnt change much now does it???

    ———

    show us this guilty verdict. you have been spouting crap like this for weeks.

    Show us the verdict. Prove what you say.

  134. “Whats the NFL supposed to do? Just say “ok keep the evidence, we’ll just assume your innocent”.

    Uh, that’s kind of the premise our whole law system is set up on. Innocent until proven guilty. You ever hear of it?

  135. letgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:38 PM

    you know what they say “imitation is the biggest form of flattery”. Keep posting under my name- maybe soon you’ll be as classless as Brady!!!!

  136. Outside of lighting a match to it, or giving it to Trump’s campaign, I can’t find another more wasteful use of $2-3M then what ESPN is paying Steven A. Smith.

    To this day I can’t understand why they don’t give him and Skip Bayless their own TV show on the network. Probably because Twitter and FB would melt down.

  137. “But ignoring Smith won’t make him go away, so let’s just deal head on with it.”

    Actually yes, that is how you get this clown to go away, by ignoring him. Unfortunately, instead of ignoring him, you wrote an article about him, and now he is out there even more.

    You must treat him like he is a Kardashian and totally ignore him at all costs.

  138. This is the same league that fined Ray Lewis in 2000 for being guilty of obstruction of justice for a double-murder investigation.

    They FINED him.

    This whole thing is pathetic. This is how Greatness is
    rewarded. With petty jealousy.

    Tom Brady is what the NFL should CLING to while it
    rakes in its $ Billions.

  139. Lets say its true that the phone is damaged. That means nothing. I have broken several cell phones in the course of normal life.

    This is a smear tactic plain and simple. It is plausibly true, but means NOTHING.

    It is truly a shame that any broadcaster would act in this manner.

  140. Why is everyone still getting hung up on the text messages of the infamous ‘deflator’?

    If science has already proved that no deflation actually occurred, then what do the texts matter?

    ………..answers? (Please comment on this I’m curious for the other half’s thoughts on this matter)

    PS: Despite the ramblings of a few individuals (looking at you letsgobuffalo), the court case for Brady is actually pretty strong. Here’s why: the case won’t be about Brady’s innocence or guilt in Deflategate, but will be about the impartiality of Goodell in how he handled this case. So while Brady may in fact be guilty, he may and likely will still play the majority of the season since there is quite a bit of evidence to support that Goodell had this whole thing rigged.

    PPS: Anyone that believes Stephen “Absent Minded” Smith on this is a fool.

  141. If i was 100% innocent and accused of something i didnt do, i can MAYBE see not handing over my phone. Personally i would if i had nothing to hide. But lets say Brady’s ego wouldnt allow that. Ok fine. But then after you are found GUILTY and the only out is to present “new information” (which roger made clear was his phone) and you STILL dont show it……….i think that was the biggest sign. No one hides something that hard and risks keeping the 4 game suspension. Basically what he was saying is taking a 4 game suspension is worth ppl not seeing whats on his phone. That does say a lot regardless of who your a fan of. Maybe something on his phone would result in a MUCH worse punishment???? Guess we’ll never know, this wont ever see a court room.

  142. “Whats the NFL supposed to do? Just say “ok keep the evidence, we’ll just assume your innocent”.

    Uh, that’s kind of the premise our whole law system is set up on. Innocent until proven guilty. You ever hear of it?
    ————————-

    And in our “whole law system” there is a thing called “withholding evidence.” You ever hear of it?

    Patri*ts fans are Delusional

    Best Regards

  143. Brady’s camp/NE is playing password. You watch. Anyone that leaks it on down will get torched.

  144. joker65 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:42 PM
    “Whats the NFL supposed to do? Just say “ok keep the evidence, we’ll just assume your innocent”.

    Uh, that’s kind of the premise our whole law system is set up on. Innocent until proven guilty. You ever hear of it?
    ——————————————————————
    WOW. Innocent after ALL the facts are presented is one thing, innocent while HIDING evidence is another. If you think the premise of this country is “hide as much as you can, refuse to cooperate and still expect immunity” then you should find a new country bud. I guess your cool with Ray Lewis hiding his white suit? Dont turn the whole country into a joke like New England.

  145. People claiming that Brady is hiding his phone so that pictures of his wife don’t surface are a bunch of idiots. How do you know this, have you seen his phone? Most people don’t refuse to help themselves, which he did by not giving up his phone. He can easily erase pictures and texts of/from his wife, it’s an bull crap excuse. All these people jumping to defend someone they never met, but somehow know for a fact that he did nothing wrong. He is human and obviously he is trying to hide something. Only an idiot can’t figure that out. And science does not prove that he didn’t attempt or cheat, the text messages from and to the ball boys will. That’s why he never gave up the phone.

  146. Once Berman leaves there will be no reason to watch any daily sports coverage on ESPN. Turning into a joke explains why so many people are bailing.

    Obviously not ‘”too big to fail”

  147. Don’t worry about it pats fans. All Brady did was cheat in the AFC championship game and had cheated so many times before that a sting operation was set up to watch the ball boy.

    We already heard many of the texts to the ball boys,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he cheated. Tom Brady = Cheater

    Patriot Culture

  148. Patriot haters crying. Some claiming to be impersonated!? End this. Let Brady play, he did not cheat. I get it, everyone hates on a winner. Its sad all those begging for a suspension.

  149. Mike Florio just called out SAS on his radio show, saying he was talking from another orifice, and it wasn’t his mouth!

    Florio can actually be funny.

  150. Hilarious how many people are blinded by hate and actually believe this story. I actually read one person saying the Pats won’t make the playoffs. Good stuff.

  151. Brady not cooperating and acting like it is the NFL fault he did not cooperate will not sit well with a Judge. If he had nothing to hide he should have cooperated with Wells. He did not cooperate and the NFL handed him a four game punishment for it. He will cry to a judge and the judge will say should have cooperated as required by the CBA, you did not and nothing else is relevant because the suspension was for not cooperating and stands.

    Also don’t even compare Brady not cooperating to Favre and his 50k fine because the Favre investigation did not revolve around anything that had an impact on the outcomes of any game.

  152. hooded12 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:50 PM

    This IS about brady’s guilt. And if your hope is that this about Roger’s impartiality than its REALLY sad your hoping for a technicality to free him even if he’s guilty. The fact is Roger let an INDEPENDENT investigator find facts (and he Well’s was open about not using ANY info the NFL had found so it was completely separate) and the investigator found brady at fault. How does that make Roger impartial? He went with what the impartial investigator said. Brady had the chance to present new info (his phone) and he denied. No judge on earth based on Rogers relationship with Kraft would say that Roger is impartial AGAINST brady or the patriots. If thats what your hoping for then good luck, u need it man. Guilty is guilty is guilty, no mater how you slice is. Putting this on some other aspect is a shameless attempt to get away with cheating.

  153. paulrevereshorse1775 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:41 PM

    Umm the verdict is guilty- 4 game suspension. What part of that dont you get? If something changes then ok, but as of right now he was found GUILTY. If roger declines to lower the suspension and brady takes it and doesnt go to court with you say he is guilty? Or will you keep asking to ‘prove’ the verdict……….which ummm again is the 4 game suspension! Like it or not, as of right now Brady has been found guilty and has been punished.

  154. letsgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:24 PM

    portnoychunk says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:05 PM

    Id rather lose a close SB with dignity than win them by cheating.

    ____________________________________

    I really don’t think you’ll have to worry about it one way or the other for at least another decade. I think you just need to justify why your team has been getting smoked for the past 15 years and a rumor of slightly deflated footballs is an easy out/easy excuse. Yup, must be because of the footballs!

  155. Brady’s phone (and records) are irrelevant and always have been. The request is/was a simple power play and, knowing he would refuse, an easy way to get a noncompliance violation in case they needed it for handing down discipline. They already have access. They had the phones that received the texts and they had those phone records also. They had them before they ever asked Brady. The issue is trying to prove Brady ordered the tampering after the inspection. They cannot do that so the rest is just to muddy the waters so the punishment seems validated by the appearance of shakiness by Brady.

  156. One trashy reporter trashing another? Who cares??

    Fact is Brady destroying his phone doesn’t prevent a judge from issuing an order for the text message records to be released by his service provider. So it’s not as simple as “Sorry judge, I accidentally dropped it in the toilet”. If there are incriminating text messages on his phone & he sues, he better be absolutely certain that testimony from JJ & JM along with text messages he has received & sent from his phone both 100% supports his claim of innocence. Because if not, then it’s not a question of “if” it will become known to EVERYONE…just a question of how soon. Given the flamboyant approach to innocence he has maintained, that headline will turn out to be much bigger than the accusations that led us to here, “Brady Deflated Footballs” will transform to “Brady’s Cheating is Proven!”.

  157. Wow the Buffalo FAN have come out. I love PFT, but wonder how many posts letgobuffalo4 will have here? 15/20/30 ??

  158. SAS is from the ESPN clown school of “journalism”.

    Throw something out there, have it believed by all of the haters as gospel,

    then after it is completely disproven, say nothing

    Call him mini-Mort

  159. And if you believe any word this guy says, I have prime swamp land I can sell you in New Jersey, right next to where the teams “from New York” play.

  160. bigbenh8tr says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:08 AM
    When he goes to federal court his phone records whill be subpoenaed from the carrier.

    This story doesn’t add up, as everyone knows destroying the phone doesn’t matter at all. That’s like destroying the hard drive on a computer and thinking nobody can recover it

    Half right, which surprises me. His texts would be recoverable from his carrier. However, a computer HD can be irretrievably damaged in about 60 seconds. Even the brainiacs at CSI can’t beat a 1/4″ drill bit.

  161. letsgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:54 PM

    joker65 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:42 PM
    “Whats the NFL supposed to do? Just say “ok keep the evidence, we’ll just assume your innocent”.

    Uh, that’s kind of the premise our whole law system is set up on. Innocent until proven guilty. You ever hear of it?
    ——————————————————————
    WOW. Innocent after ALL the facts are presented is one thing, innocent while HIDING evidence is another. If you think the premise of this country is “hide as much as you can, refuse to cooperate and still expect immunity” then you should find a new country bud. I guess your cool with Ray Lewis hiding his white suit? Dont turn the whole country into a joke like New England.
    __________________________________

    So you’re comparing Ray Lewis ditching a white suit after a stabbing to Tom Brady deciding not to turn his cell phone over to the NFL? Brady keeping his cell phone doesn’t indicate he’s guilty of anything nor that he’s hiding evidence. Any person in the country has rights, which you should support. If it were me, and I had nothing on my phone, I would hand it over (but that would be my choice). However, I’m not a public figure with millions of dollars, a celebrity wife, and working for a company with a history of leaking personal and irrelevant information to a blood thirsty media like a sieve.

    I get you not liking the Patriots, it makes sense. But take a few seconds, imagine the exact same thing were happening to Jim Kelly back in the day and ask yourself how you would be reacting to it. With an honest answer.

  162. i’d much rather stephen a get fired by espn, rathen than cowherd/simmons…. of course, stephen a. will make a claim that this post is racist.

  163. Whether this happened is likely to come out and is easily verifiable. We shall see.

    If it is true, Patriot players seem to have a habit of destroying cell phones.

  164. fitzharvard says: If Brady’s phone exonerates him, why isn’t this a done deal yet?
    ================================

    You’ve not heard the saying “you can’t disprove a negative”? (Now prove to us YOU didn’t personally deflate footballs! ;))

    Goodell never had any intention or desire to exonerate Brady – just the opposite – as Brady quickly gleaned, and thus declined to “cooperate” in Goodell’s efforts to frame him.

    The only text mentioning PSI to date came from the Patriots equipment manager who stated Brady’s preferred PSI was 13.0 – and NOT the minimum 12.5 psi (in reference to the officials cheating during a Jets home game, over-inflating Brady’s footballs to 16.0 PSI – which the NFL has declined to investigate)

    Seeing as the footballs actually WEREN’T deflated in the first place, ask yourself why THAT didn’t exonerate Brady? We actually have a statement from the equipment managers that Brady prefers his footballs right in the middle of the legal range.

    And this meant NOTHING to Wells and Goodell – they simply continued their witch hunt, eventually accepting the detailed “best recollection” of pre-game PSI from Walt Anderson for ALL footballs – but then rejecting Anderson’s “best recollection” on the gauge he used in an effort to frame Brady

    Even the Haters must find that odd, no?

    Just remember – if Goodell can trump up baseless charges to suspend Brady, he can do it to ANY non-Jets player, thanks to the overwhelming support the Haters are giving Goodell in this case.

  165. If you don’t know or can’t confirm the news, don’t report it! How hard is that? You make yourself sound like an incompetent clown, when you make stories up and try to throw big words into sentences. You clearly spend more time reviewing a thesaurus more than discovering facts.

  166. I hear Stephen A Smith has a hearing problem, … oh wait I don’t know if he does or not….oh wait… I can’t confirm or deny Stephen A. Smith is a ESPN reporter of no value……

    How can he make bold statements about hearing something and then turn 180 and say he doesn’t know….then he won’t tell who said it.. I mean isn’t that just another way of lying???

  167. Much as I despise smith and wish he would go away. I hope he’s right and brady’s suspended.

  168. Time for Brady to talk. His silence is starting to irritate me. Just straight up say how ridiculous this whole thing is. Expect a response from Brady’s camp soon.

  169. Um… they already have Tom Brady’s texts to the ball boys. From their phones.

    Duh.
    ———————————–
    Another air tight defense from a deeply intellectual Patri*ts fan…..

    Patri*ts fans are Delusional

    Best Regards

  170. One question that I have yet to see answered: if all this stuff about deflated balls is true, and it does create a competitive advantage, then how do you explain Brady looking like his usual self, the guy who leads game winning drives but also throws maddening interceptions at times, in the last Super Bowl, vs a strong defense and secondary, dinged up or not? Why did Brady not fall off in that game, with perfectly inflated balls that were guarded like Fort Knox? Or what about the 2011 playoffs when we fell butt-backwards into the Super Bowl and Brady was TERRIBLE vs Baltimore. Please explain, because I don’t understand.

  171. You know, I wanted Brady to sue the NFL to get rid of the suspension. I thought the people asking for him to sue for defamation were going a little too far. Not anymore, sue the hell out of all of them Tom! Sue Goodell, the NFL, ESPN, Mort, Smith, the Colts, the Ravens, Mad Dog Russo and any of these other losers spreading crap propaganda. Sue them all!!!!

  172. Tom is smart. Because now it will take a court order to get those text messages, snd prevents the phone from slipping into the wrong hands.

  173. letsgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 1:06 PM

    paulrevereshorse1775 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 12:41 PM

    Umm the verdict is guilty- 4 game suspension.
    ———

    Wrong. The 4 game suspension is the punishment for the verdict. You said “Here is a FACT- Tom Brady, as of right now has been found GUILTY and is suspended.”

    Again, show us the verdict. Prove it. Give us a quote from the Wells Report and a page number where we can find it. Or give us a quote from Goodell or Vincent or any NFL exec where it says he has been proven guilty.

    If it is a fact, it shouldn’t be hard for you to find.

  174. Because none of us have a cell phone and thus don’t understand that text messages end up on both the sender’s and sendee’s phone. Therefore, Brady destroying his phone would obviously hide all of the messages he sent the ball handlers because they weren’t on their phones?

    Like, seriously? That’s the argument we’re dealing with here?

    Is the hate so strong that you can’t even think logicall about something we all have and use on a daily basis?

    I guess so…

  175. Where did Stephen A get this info, perhaps from Chris Mortensen, who gave the bogus report about all Patriot footballs being 2 PSI below normal, which was completely wrong. Or perhaps he got it from John Harbaugh, who has a clear ax to grind against the Patriots. Or perhaps he got it from the jealous losers at the NY Post. Everyone involved in this joke of a story has an ax to grind against the Patriots, whether its Goodell, Ted Wells, the Colts, the Ravens or Mike Kensil. If ESPN had any guts, they’d fire Stephen A. on the spot for such bogus reporting. And Brady should sue him for every cent he has got.

  176. apkyletexas says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:04 AM
    Smith broke the LeBron to the Heat story and is very plugged in with Pats arch rival Miami sports community. Don’t be too quick to dismiss him. Not saying he’s right, but he’s definitely got sources.

    arch rival?? Umm to be a rival you need to actually win meaningful games against the other team. Nobody cares about the dolphins up here.

  177. Go ahead & retire Brady with Gisele you don’t need this crap or the guilt, then BB will retire shortly after that & the by GOD patsies the darlings of the NFL that can do no wrong will SUCK again like the 70’s 80’s & early 90’s AGAIN!!!

  178. Wrong. The 4 game suspension is the punishment for the verdict. You said “Here is a FACT- Tom Brady, as of right now has been found GUILTY and is suspended.”

    Again, show us the verdict. Prove it. Give us a quote from the Wells Report and a page number where we can find it. Or give us a quote from Goodell or Vincent or any NFL exec where it says he has been proven guilty.

    If it is a fact, it shouldn’t be hard for you to find.
    ————————————-

    And now it has come down to this……..I suppose it depends on what the definition of “is” is too……smh

    Patri*ts fans are Delusional

    Best Regards

  179. Patriot Fans Are Priceless. It’s not that it’s a big cheat it’s that he did it and it’s hilarious watching you all defend him.

    Cold, windy, wet,,,,,,,,,, you all don’t think a slight amount more grip makes a difference with a split second window in a player coming across the middle.

    You know, the more I think about it he should be banned for a year or more.

  180. “apkyletexas says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:04 AM
    Smith broke the LeBron to the Heat story and is very plugged in with Pats arch rival Miami sports community. Don’t be too quick to dismiss him. Not saying he’s right, but he’s definitely got sources.”

    —-
    Miami arch rival????!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

  181. “But ignoring Smith won’t make him go away”

    Are you sure? Isn’t it worth a try?

    Or is it, “ignoring Smith won’t get us page views”…

  182. This has already been speculated that Brady deleted all the texts. And no they are not all on JM phone some were deleted and unrecoverable. Read the Wells report foot note in the communications section.

  183. vletsgobuffalo4 says: Jul 28, 2015 1:03 PM

    This IS about brady’s guilt. And if your hope is that this about Roger’s impartiality than its REALLY sad your hoping for a technicality to free him even if he’s guilty. The fact is Roger let an INDEPENDENT investigator find facts (and he Well’s was open about not using ANY info the NFL had found so it was completely separate) and the investigator found brady at fault. How does that make Roger impartial? He went with what the impartial investigator said. Brady had the chance to present new info (his phone) and he denied. No judge on earth based on Rogers relationship with Kraft would say that Roger is impartial AGAINST brady or the patriots. If thats what your hoping for then good luck, u need it man. Guilty is guilty is guilty, no mater how you slice is. Putting this on some other aspect is a shameless attempt to get away with cheating.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Did you miss the first part of my message where I asked you to give information regarding the text messages?

    No matter. If you look at this reasonably, I’ll put aside my affinity for the Patriots, and you put down your pitchfork as an angry Bills fan. If science says no deflation, it doesn’t matter what they text back and forth.

    I’m not saying that Brady is 100% innocent, and I do think this would’ve been different had he given his phone over initially. But the points were made above that the court case would be about the Wells report, and that’s just false. Read the appeals letter, you’ll see exactly what Kessler and Brady are talking about. Goodell doesn’t seem impartial since there was quite a bit of misinformation that’s never been corrected (Mort’s 11/12 footballs were 2PSI under, Kensil running around at halftime spouting threats to the Pats, previously unused ball measurement tactics)

    Brady/Kessler’s case is based off the fact that it seemed a predetermined conclusion was reached before the investigation. That’s it. That’s their court case. You’re right, it doesn’t exonerate Brady, but it does prevent him from being suspended.

  184. Cold, windy, wet,,,,,,,,,, you all don’t think a slight amount more grip makes a difference with a split second window in a player coming across the middle.

    You ever try on receivers/running back gloves? Do you know how tacky those things are? They provide unbelievable grip. (So much that Jerry Rice probably wouldn’t have needed stickum if he played today.)

    My point is that the normal equipment provides more than enough grip that the slight decrease in air pressure isn’t going to be an advantage. It isn’t back yard ball in the snow with wool mittens.

  185. profootball13 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 1:45 PM

    And now it has come down to this……..I suppose it depends on what the definition of “is” is too……smh

    ———-

    Wrong. It comes down to what a FACT is. letsgobuffalo4 is claiming something is a fact. I’m just asking him to provide the proof of that claim.

    If you have the answer, you are welcome to post it. I don’t mind. Please do.

    Problem with people like you is that you write stuff that you cannot back up. You claim your opinions as facts. Then when you get called on it, you respond with stuff like “and now it comes down to this….”.

  186. Watching Replay of AFCCG as I type. It appears that it’s more than likely the Patriots were aware that the balls had been tested at halftime and that someone was once again trying to cause them grief. They came out of halftime on fire! The hitting was super intense and looks like they had entered the infamous eff you zone. They embarrassed the Colts. Manhandled them, toyed with them. The Colts couldn’t get off the field fast enough as they acted like beaten men. I pity the teams they face this year, I really do.

  187. I heard from reliable sources that the phone was destroyed by the same person who destroyed Hillary’s email server.

  188. WOW. Innocent after ALL the facts are presented is one thing, innocent while HIDING evidence is another.

    You’ve got it backwards son. You are innocent until PROVEN guilty. That’s the way it works in the good ol’ USA

    Not guilty until all evidence is found then you are innocent. You can have suspicions of guilt, but you don’t convict with those

  189. Let me explain why Tawmy doesn’t want to turn over the phone.

    It’s not the texts to the ball boys. It’s the texts to Belicheat and maybe eve Krap.

    More institutionalized cheating and if Goodell weren’t in Krap’s pocket, Belicheat would be out for a year along with Tawmy.

    As they should be.

  190. letsgobuffalo4

    This “person” is incapable of intelligent back and forth without resorting to childish name calling. Having to demean your opponent because your argument fails is both sad and pathetic. You bring nothing new to the conversation. Please make your point and spare all of us your feeble attempt at adulthood.

  191. Irsay’s denial of the Paoloantonio story was dictated to the Indianapolis Star, the publication that employs Indy blogger Bob Kravitz, who was the person that the deflategate story was leaked to the night of the AFCCG. The Star printed Irsay’s denial verbatim without questioning him.

    Of course, they didn’t need to ask him if he, or a member of the Colts, leaked the defaltegate story to Kravitz because they already know who leaked thatt story. They just are not telling us.

  192. paulrevereshorse – Its not that he was posting stuff he can’t back up. He is posting the next argument that all the Patriots haters will take.

    If this is not settled, it will be a legal battle. The poster was trying to use images from an old Clinton scandal where it appeared that his strategy was to obfuscate the truth with legal-speak.

    Like it or not, no matter what a judge rules, if it is in favor of Brady, the folks here will claim it was some lawyer trick. If it goes against Brady, then it is iron-clad proof and confirmation of any and all claims against Brady.

  193. @apkyletexas – did you just hear yourself say that the rival Miami team could be Smith’s source? And how in the world would someone on the Miami team know what Tom does with his phone? As a matter of fact, unless it was his wife, his attorney or his best friend, I have no idea how anyone could know what Tom did with his phone. And after the responses that Smith has given about Deflategate on the air, I doubt any friends of Tom are talking to Stephen A Smith.

  194. iamkillerfin says:
    Jul 28, 2015 1:45 PM

    Go ahead & retire Brady with Gisele you don’t need this crap or the guilt, then BB will retire shortly after that & the by GOD patsies the darlings of the NFL that can do no wrong will SUCK again like the 70’s 80’s & early 90’s AGAIN!!!
    —————————————————–
    Really? The Patriots at least made the Super Bowl in the 80’s and the 90’s oh and the 2000’s and the 2010’s. Lets see, the last time the fins made the SB was………1984 and lost. 30+ long years since the phins won. Probably best you don’t bring up the past. Then again, that’s all you have.

  195. disorien says:
    Jul 28, 2015 2:14 PM

    paulrevereshorse – Its not that he was posting stuff he can’t back up. He is posting the next argument that all the Patriots haters will take.

    If this is not settled, it will be a legal battle. The poster was trying to use images from an old Clinton scandal where it appeared that his strategy was to obfuscate the truth with legal-speak.

    Like it or not, no matter what a judge rules, if it is in favor of Brady, the folks here will claim it was some lawyer trick. If it goes against Brady, then it is iron-clad proof and confirmation of any and all claims against Brady.

    ——-

    thanks man, but I do know exactly what he was doing. and I agree with your hypothesis about the possible outcomes.

  196. Brady and Belichick are so good that their own league (that wants to sell parity) has conspired to handicap them.

    Has this ever happened in any other major professional sports league? None come to mind. Dynasties like the Yankees, Steelers, Celtics and Canadians were praised and promoted by their leagues.

    The amazing thing about the NFL’s actions is how transparent it is and how unwilling the media is to report it. Truly, it is the modern day equivalent of Hans Christian Andersen’s classic “The Emperor’s New Clothes”.

  197. I agree that these media guys should have to be held accountable when they toss out their little “scoops.” Smith said it publicly, so he shouldn’t have any problem elaborating on the details. In fairness both to the public and Brady. (Of course, yet another bogus media tale just came out about Roethlisberger that was proven false, but I didn’t see anyone shed any tears here about that.)

    Of course, Stephen A. would probably do his bellow and bluster thing, and say yeah I heard it, I don’t have to say who told me but I did yada yada.

    But let’s just say this IS the truth. Wouldn’t you agree that looks awfully bad for Brady? I mean, destroying his phone even though it wouldn’t stop anyone from accessing information.

  198. Actually NFL just upheld suspension based on Brady destroying his phone.

    So everyone in this article and comments section is wrong…

    I won’t hold my breathe on a PFT retraction

  199. profootball13 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 1:45 PM

    And now it has come down to this……..I suppose it depends on what the definition of “is” is too……smh

    ———-

    Wrong. It comes down to what a FACT is. letsgobuffalo4 is claiming something is a fact. I’m just asking him to provide the proof of that claim.

    If you have the answer, you are welcome to post it. I don’t mind. Please do.

    Problem with people like you is that you write stuff that you cannot back up. You claim your opinions as facts. Then when you get called on it, you respond with stuff like “and now it comes down to this….”.
    ———————————————

    “people like you”………Have you ever thought that maybe you should take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard for a little while?

    Regardless of how you try and twist reality, currently Tom Brady, from a preponderance of the evidence, has been suspended 4 games for Cheating.

    Patri*ts fans are Delusional

    Best Regards

  200. patsbrat says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:35 AM
    mvp43 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 11:26 AM

    Obviously Brady is guilty of something, otherwise he wouldn’t have refused to hand his phone over to Ted Wells…. That’s just common sense. So he has something to hide.
    ~~~~~~~~~
    OK mvp43, why don’t you post your texts so we can pull them out of context and make you into whatever we want.

    If you do not post your text messages here, then you are guilty because you must have something to hide…

    —————————–
    Patsbrat- don’t let the facts get in the way of a good argument. That’s what you’re going with?

    First off, I’m not the one being accused of deflating footballs, Tom Brady is. If I was being accused of something I didn’t do- I would happily hand over my cell phone. Seems like a great way to clear my name.

    By him not cooperating, that suggests that he knows more than he’s letting on, and probbaly has text messages that would confirm that. Once again…. common sense.

  201. Some of you need a dictionary in your lives as you do not understand the meaning of the word racist.

    Now that the NFL has backed A. Smith’s claims who here has the guts to admitt they were wrong? My guess is not many.

  202. STEPHAN A SMITH YOU ARE THA MAN!!!

    Great Sources, you called it! All you Brady Pansy including NBC sports owe this man an apology.

    BRADY = CHEAT!!!

  203. for many years troy vincent played in philly. you can guess he and steve have been talking for years. and since this leak serves troy and his boss, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist…..

  204. So while everyone bashing Stephen A. The NFL just upheld the suspension stating the same reasons that Stephen A (HERD)

  205. number4020115 says:
    Jul 28, 2015 2:32 PM

    Can we all guess what the “A” stands for as his middle name?
    ………………………………………………………………….

    Accurate?

  206. Looks like you all are wrong and for once A. Smith got it right. I’ll wait along with bchap17 to see all the apologies posted. Not likely! Now this begs the question, why destroy the phone if you have nothing to hide. smh.

  207. Wondering if there is going to be a retraction or update to this post by profootballtalk.com. Seems Smith (who I am not a big fan of) has got some legitimate sources in the NFL.

    My guess is that the NFL Corporate Office leaked this to the loudest person they could think of to start the buzz prior to the official announcement.

  208. I kind of think Brady is trolling the NFL and Goodell. Especially if Brady’s team is planning to sue. Brady could just get the text messages from the carrier and show them if he wants his personal info out there. His lawyers allowing the destruction of the phone seems odd but maybe it’s a bigger part of the plan and they’re baiting them. His personal off work data should not have to be mandated to prove innocence. The NFL case against him was weak and the lawyers know it.

  209. *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets*

  210. byroan says:
    Jul 28, 2015 8:54 PM

    I love the top comments.

    ****************************

    Top comments, nothing! There are hundreds, and many, many more thumbs up vilifying Stephen A (the idiot) Smith and crowing about the outlandishness of this, but in this case he was dead on correct.

    Damn is that funny.

  211. Maybe there were some text from Aaron Hernandez that Tom was involved in too?

  212. We will just call this a case of “”the boy who cried wolf” as he says a lot of crap that’s usually wrong and this time he was right. Hate Pats fans but they had a reason to be skeptical given the source. No apologies needed here.

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