Robert Kraft tees off on Brady ruling

AP

[Editor’s note: On Wednesday morning, Patriots owner Robert Kraft unexpectedly provided a statement to the media before a previously-scheduled press conference from coach Bill Belichick. The full text of Robert Kraft’s statement appears below.]

I felt it was important to make a statement today, prior to the start of training camp. After this, I will not be talking about this matter until after the legal process plays itself out, and I would advise everyone in the organization to do the same and just concentrate on preparation for the 2015 season.

The decision handed down by the league yesterday is unfathomable to me. It is routine for discipline in the NFL to be reduced upon appeal. In the vast majority of these cases, there is tangible and hard evidence of the infraction for which the discipline is being imposed, and still the initial penalty gets reduced. Six months removed from the AFC championship game, the league still has no hard evidence of anybody doing anything to tamper with the PSI levels of footballs.

I continue to believe and unequivocally support Tom Brady. I first and foremost need to apologize to our fans, because I truly believe what I did in May, given the actual evidence of the situation and the league’s history on discipline matters, would make it much easier for the league to exonerate Tom Brady.

Unfortunately, I was wrong.

The league’s handling of this entire process has been extremely frustrating and disconcerting. I will never understand why an initial erroneous report regarding the PSI level of footballs was leaked by a source from the NFL a few days after the AFC championship game, [and] was never corrected by those who had the correct information. For four months, that report cast aspersions and shaped public opinion.

Yesterday’s decision by Commissioner Goodell was released in a similar manner, under an erroneous headline that read, “Tom Brady destroyed his cellphone.” This headline was designed to capture headlines across the country and obscure evidence regarding the tampering of air pressure in footballs. It intentionally implied nefarious behavior and minimized the acknowledgement that Tom provided the history of every number he texted during that relevant time frame. And we had already provided the league with every cellphone of every non-NFLPA that they requested, including head coach Bill Belichick.

Tom Brady is a person of great integrity, and is a great ambassador of the game, both on and off the field. Yet for reasons that I cannot comprehend, there are those in the league office who are more determined to prove that they were right rather than admit any culpability of their own or take any responsibility for the initiation of a process and ensuing investigation that was flawed.

I have come to the conclusion that this was never about doing what was fair and just. Back in May, I had to make a difficult decision that I now regret. I tried to do what I thought was right. I chose not to take legal action. I wanted to return the focus to football.

I have been negotiating agreements on a global basis my entire life. I know there are times when you have to give up important points of principle to achieve a greater good. I acted in good faith and was optimistic that by taking the actions I took the league would have what they wanted. I was willing to accept the harshest penalty in the history of the NFL for an alleged ball violation because I believed it would help exonerate Tom.

I have often said, ‘If you want to get a deal done, sometimes you have to get the lawyers out of the room.’ I had hoped that Tom Brady’s appeal to the league would provide Roger Goodell the necessary explanation to overturn his suspension. Now, the league has taken the matter to court, which is a tactic that only a lawyer would recommend.

Once again, I want to apologize to the fans of the New England Patriots and Tom Brady. I was wrong to put my faith in the league. Given the facts, evidence, and laws of science that underscore this entire situation, it is completely incomprehensible to me that the league continues to take steps to disparage one of its all-time great players, and a man for whom I have the utmost respect.

Personally, this is very sad and disappointing to me.

337 responses to “Robert Kraft tees off on Brady ruling

  1. So much spin I’m dizzy.

    I’ve decided that I don’t like the Patriots or Goodell. I feel confident that I can’t go wrong holding those opinions.

  2. Didn’t he also believe and trust Hernandez to be a good guy because he told him?

    For a billionaire Robbie sure isn’t the greatest judge of character now is he?

  3. Kraft just went Al Davis on the commissioner

    Not to mention calling him out for try to win the public…

    Yesterday’s decision by Commissioner was released in a similar manner, under an erroneous headline that read, “Tom Brady destroyed his cellphone.” This headline was designed to capture headlines across the country and obscure evidence regarding the tampering of air pressure in footballs.

    Feeding CRYBABY NATION

  4. Oh boy, get your popcorn and a very large adult beverage. This is gonna be good!

    I love Kraft apologizing to Pats fans for caving. This is a cage match to the death.

    People I would not want to be in the next few months:

    1. Wells
    2. Kensil
    3. Goodell

    Wonder how other owners are going to like it when they get dragged in. I smell a legal strategy that is the equivalent of “Scorched Earth” in a war.

  5. Thank you, Mr. Kraft. We needed to hear that. I won’t lie, I just went from six to midnight watching that.

    Winners focus on winning.
    Losers focus on winners.

  6. Robert- your team has been associated with cheating for a long time. The NFL wants to simply put an end to it and hold you accountable.

  7. russrpm says: Jul 29, 2015 10:38 AM

    Much ado (and bluster) about nothing.

    +++++++++++

    Just like Deflategate.

    This means war at this point. Patriots vs. Everyone. Wouldn’t have it any other way!!!

  8. I love how Kraft’s & Goodell’s relationship has quickly deteriorated over the last few years especially because of how close the were. I bet we won’t be annoyed with hearing Kraft’s annoying “let’s move a team over seas” crap anymore.

  9. Now he comes to Tom’s defense when he already tucked his tail months ago? This is too funny!

  10. Kraft, your organization actually tried to pass off that you referred to McNally as “The Deflator” because he was fat. Like – you actually put that in writing on an official team-sanctioned site. That’s something a 6-year-old makes up when they get caught in a lie.

    Goodell/NFL certainly could have handled this better, but your org. could have as well. Toughen up and face reality.

  11. I don’t care which side you’re on… how can you not respect Robert Kraft for this statement?

  12. To bad Bobby………..
    You accepted the punishment, and he should have also.
    Now go back to that blonde you were cheating with while your wife was on her death bed.

  13. Kraft Tom Brady, your organization and the word integrity do not go together. The Patriots are the definition of cheaters in sports.

    Tom Brady = Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds, Pete Rose.

  14. This has gone beyond ridiculous. The people who post here agree on one thing: we love this sport. This whole unfortunate episode, where no one comes out looking good, will dominate league headlines for months to come when we’d all rather be focused on training camps, fantasy leagues, who signed with who and predictions on who might win. Everyone loses, including us.

  15. The league is just as sick and tired of Kraft and his holier than thou attitude as the rest of us. That statement Kraft just put out ought to cost him even more.

  16. Phony.

    You folded your tent cause you knew Brady was guilty,hoping that ur buddy Roger would eliminate Brady’s suspension.

    That doesnt work so now you say you made a mistake?

    A mistake because that ploy didnt work ?

    The organization will always be tainted with cheating

  17. OK Kraft lol …

    But if this is really what you want people to believe:

    You would have been better off laying down a million bucks at the roulette table.

  18. I think it’s time to shift the focus onto the nfl employees who have it out for the pats.

  19. No surprise, Robert. We could have told you this was coming back in the spring. Now it will be up to the lawyers and courts to resolve this. Unfortunately, this has a long way to go.

  20. Thank you Mr Kraft for publicly stating was is (and has been) so painfully obvious about this witch-hunt! The league has taken two black eyes on this one!

  21. “The decision handed down by the league yesterday is unfathomable to me. It is routine for discipline in the NFL to be reduced upon appeal.” – Robert Kraft

    *******************************************

    Unfathomable because in light of Brady destroying his cell phone that the suspension should have been increased to 16 games?

  22. Two guys texting about deflating footballs to satisfy Brady. Brady not cooperating and destroying his phone. Sounds like a classic case of a guy being misunderstood when he was just trying to help his overweight pal deflate himself in the gym to me.

  23. Not a Patriots fan.
    Not a Brady homer at all. Just a fan of NFL football.
    This is all on Goodell, he is joke.
    I hope Brady goes to court and wins a case against Goodell, which will give him like 5 straight losses in cases he’s been judge & jury.
    This whole thing is equivelant to a pitcher rubbing down a baseball… and he got a 4-game suspension. ridiculous.

  24. Alex Trebek: “Final Jeopardy Question”: “This NFL QB could be caught on camera stabbing someone and his fans would still claim he’s innocent”. “What is your final answer?”

    Ok….I might be the only one that thought this was funny, maybe. I’m still betting Tom plays, this won’t be going away anytime soon. I’m actually hopeful he does, I want to see him on the 20th of Sept. I will also be glad when this story goes away.

  25. “I will never understand why an initial erroneous report regarding the PSI level of footballs was leaked by a source from the NFL”

    Because it was a frame job and the former NY Jets employees involved wanted to make sure the Pats were hosed from the start. Kensil-Grigson to Mort for the score.

    They knew full well that a lot of people would never get beyond that initial lie and consider the Pats guilty no matter what else came out. They have never publicly refuted that report and we still see people posting here that believe it to be true.

  26. Good for him! No cheating happened yet the punishment stands? Screw that. See you in court Roger.

  27. Awwww, poor baby.
    Can he see all the tears I am crying for him!!!
    Lie, Cheat and don’t cooperate and you get what you deserve.
    Your reputation as an organization brought this on….stop getting caught at cheating.

  28. Wow.. Kraft attacking the integrity of the NFL front office..

    Time to re-instate the Tuck Rule so that it can be used against the Pats… the rule can always be removed once Kraft dies. (just ask Oakland)

  29. Every Pats fan, “There’s no way Brady is guilty. He said he didn’t do it.”

    Every single person with a reasonable thought in their brain that studies the evidence and comes to a clear conclusion, “He’s lucky he was only suspended for four games.”

  30. Kraft got taken by a con man, a huckster named Roger Goodell, who has no integrity anymore. If Goodell is willing to anger one of the most powerful owners in the NFL and forever destroy their friendship, who knows what else Goodell is capable of. I don’t blame Kraft for thinking of the product first, of the NFL and his bottom line. But he probably had no idea of the depths that Goodell would sink to to frame the league’s premier franchise. If Kraft had any guts, he’d be banging on the doors of the NFL office and demanding his draft picks and a million dollars back as well as an apology. Fire Goodell.

  31. There is a symbiotic relationship ‘protocol’ that must be followed. It was broken, Kraft shouldn’t act surprised. The NFL and Patriots have handled things cleanly for years. You let the NFL destroy evidence of cheating, you don’t do it yourself. Hell, they’ll let you pump an illegal radio signal into Tommy’s helmet, they would have let you skate on this one. There are rules that must be followed, even on the dark side.

  32. Roger Goodell is a narcissistic power-hungry tyrant just like most other authority in America today. I’m not a Patriots fan but I hope Kraft and Brady bring Roger Goodell to his knees ultimately resulting in a disgraceful termination as commissioner of the NFL.

  33. I’m disappointed in the kraft, brady, and the patriots organization for not coming clean from the beginning. The league wanted to see the texts themselves, not just the numbers of those contacted, and brady admittedly destroyed the phone to keep that from happening. Then to come off with this attitude reeks of unchecked arrogance and of being above the rules. Disgusting.

    The emperor and everyone around him, have no clothes.

  34. shadywarrior says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:40 AM
    Thank you, Mr. Kraft. We needed to hear that. I won’t lie, I just went from six to midnight watching that.

    Winners focus on winning.
    Losers focus on winners.
    ——

    Looks like we just learned Tom Brady’s PFT screen name.

    SHADY Warrior.

    Yeah, that sounds about right.

  35. Did Kraft just insult the “other” 31 owners, aka, his business partners……
    He is the one owner who said Ray Rice would never play in the NFL again…….

  36. What really blows my mind is that anybody actually believes that Brady and the Patriots would fight such an insignificant alleged offense to this degree if they were actually guilty. Can a interest any of you in a quaint chalet in a ski town in Puerto Rico?

  37. Send Goodell to prison where he belongs. What a mean-spirited power-hungry dictator. I’m sure the owners of the Colts and Ravens couldn’t be prouder.

  38. Sorry Bob you are wrong not all suspensions are reduced upon appeal.

    Case in point Aldon Smith suspended 9 games last year. He voluntarily checked himself into rehab after his arresrt and missed 5 games prior to the suspension. This is an unprecedented move by any player, and what did it get him the FULL suspension. That’s an outrage…..

    Did our owner go crying to the media threaten litigation NOPE

    Man up and take your punishment. if your golden boy would have cooperated on any level we wouldn’t be talking about this…….

  39. so basically you wanted this lowered just based on the fact that he appealed- you dont need new info. Just saying “I appeal” should lower the punishment? And keep talking about ‘hard evidence’, it has been the rule that the NFL doesnt need ‘hard evidence’, just more probably than not ruling to find someone guilty (if you want to take away the players rights to withhold evidence then we can hold the NFL to ‘hard evidence’ standards, but til then you cant refuse to cooperate and demand hard evidence. And you thought your actions of accepting punishment should affect Tom’s exoneration?!?!?! What planet are you from that just b/c u accept ur punishment then Tom is just automatically set free?!?!?! What you just said is one of the most insanely idioc things i have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that can be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this thread is now dumber for having read this.

  40. Is this the same guy who gave a Super Bowl ring to Putin and then claimed he stole it? He capitulated and now he’s crying.

    He’s just carrying the shield to deflect attention from coach Bill, who is involved in this up to his neck. The reason he conceded will be the same reason Brady will tell the NFLPA, no mas.

    They cannot let this get to Belichick.

  41. From a Colts fan. Enough is enough. $1M and loss of 2 draft picks is more than enough punishment. I understand the job of the Commish to uphold the integrity of the game and that has already been done in this situation. Can we just move on and start the season already !! The cell phone destruction etc, is just a big He said/She said situation. Let’s play some FOOTBALL !!

  42. “I will never understand why an initial erroneous report regarding the PSI level of footballs was leaked by a source from the NFL a few days after the AFC championship game, [and] was never corrected by those who had the correct information. For four months, that report cast aspersions and shaped public opinion.”

    Absolutely true.

  43. igotgamenj says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:40 AM

    should of could of would of….blah blah blah. No Team nor Player is bigger than the NFL shield
    ==============================

    “Should of”, “could of” “would of”? Of? Seriously?

    Should’ve paid attention in English class, I guess. Could’ve, and would’ve gotten it right.

  44. Patriots are a bunch of unaccountable idiots who long ago forgot what it meant to do the right thing. Everyone makes mistakes but not everyone lies and covers up and shuns accountability.

  45. Reading these comments, I honestly wonder how many people in the NFL offices are hitting the up vote and down vote button. It’s gotten that silly. Nothing quite like hiding behind a keyboard. As Matt Light may have said, “you can say whatever you want in this world until you get punched in the mouth”

    Clear to me that the NFL HQ in NY is a complete clown show. How does any of this, “protect the shield”? Goodell has got to go. Kraft did the right thing, he just didn’t realize how desperate Roger is for that $40 mm paystub. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. That investigation…think Pink Pather – Inspector Clouseau.

  46. Interesting that there is no mention of Brady’s cell phone destruction in Kraft’s tirade. You will never hear him mention it because it doesn’t fit the fantasy that he has built.

    There was more than a little CYA with the patriots fans in Kraft’s speech. The faithful have been reinvigorated.

    I’m surprised there wasn’t a gospel chior singing in the background.

  47. I am not sure if this is good for the league or not.
    I am not sure who the winner is. Yesterday it sure looked like the NFL had won. But the clouds are darkening and gathering fast on the NFL.
    No popcorn for this, I need a well done steak.

  48. Kraft’s words here are as meaningful as when he said his organization would fully cooperate with the investigation. Once a cheater always a cheater.

  49. So as an owner and a member of the “32” that comprise the NFL can Kraft challenge the Wells Report as fraud? It would make for an interesting strategy. That sad truth is that Brady can only challenge the process of his punishment and appeal and this will never answer questions about whether or not anything ever happened with the footballs. However, there remain a lot of questions regarding whether the Wells Report and its supporting investigation were ever independent. If the NFL, representing the 32, commissioned an “independent” report that was never independent then couldn’t any of the owners in the NFL question whether their business got what it was paying for?

  50. I agree with Mr. Kraft. The NFL had little to no evidence to rule in this fashion. Had Mr. Kraft perhaps spoken in the same manner on past edicts out of the Commissioner’s office, he would not be experiencing this now. Ask all the Saints fans how they feel about this and they will say, “Welcome to our world”. As in this case, there was not enough evidence to come to this conclusion but when you have RG’s ego and agenda and you give him carte blanche, you will continue to get these decisions. NFL owners, you reap what you sow.

  51. So Leveon Bell can get a DUI and posession of drugs and get a suspension reduced on an appeal that consists of nothing. Yet Brady cant get a reduction without Goodells stipulations.

  52. This is a case study of how over privileged people think! They cant be held to the same rules as everyone else. Yea, I paid the fine basically admitting guilt to exonerate Tom. Makes complete sense to me, I guess thats why you fired those employees to huh Kraft, what about them and their families if you believed tommy boy didn’t do it? I hope they sue your arrogant lying butt. The more you open your mouth the less believable you become. I hope that you lose just one game of that suspension and that one game keeps you out of the playoffs!

  53. Brady did not destroy his phone to conceal evidence. The information is out there and had the evidence existed, it would have been found. Jastremski and McNally handed over their phones. How many other people could have access to those game balls? The whole thing is beyond ridiculous.

    Brady destroyed his phone to avoid setting a bad precedent for the players. I’d be angry too if my employer demanded access to my most private and personal devices. Cell phones contain browsing histories, photos, texts, and phone numbers. Can you trust the league not to leak the content of a text found on Brady’s phone if Brady had criticized Belichick, Kraft, his wife or mother, or if he’d had a flirtacious exchange with a female staffer?

    I wouldn’t put that kind of faith in the league.

    This is what they do in police states and banana republics. If you find it disturbing or somehow “revealing” that Brady destroyed his phone, maybe you should be living in one of these political systems.

  54. Tampering with footballs was a $25,000 fine before all this. It wasn’t limited to that but in the face of an extreme lack of evidence I’d say the court is gonna have a hard time upholding this ruling. A rule was set and they proved nothing more than a couple balls being underweight.

    The rule was set before AP got punished outside of the rule. Overturned.

    The rule was set before Hardy got punished outside of the rule. Punishment cut by 6 games and a legal proceeding would likely drop it more.

    The rule was set before Brady was accused and the NFL has shown nothing to say it deserves to be more severe.

    They can cry all they want over that phone. They have no legal right to it and they still got access to the info but decided that, amazingly, it would somehow take to long for the league. Take to long! HAHAHAHA

    The NFL under Goodell is a joke.

  55. si1m says: Jul 29, 2015 10:54 AM

    Patriots are a bunch of unaccountable idiots who long ago forgot what it meant to do the right thing. Everyone makes mistakes but not everyone lies and covers up and shuns accountability.

    ———

    Theyre highly accountable to themselves, teammates, and coaches. Its why they win a ton of games every year.

    Keep believeing what Roger Goodell is selling you.

  56. Goodell is toast. The other owners will now realize that they could be next for one of The Fairy Tales that The League office invents to justify their own existence. Goodell and his Legion of Dunces work for the owners… For now.

  57. Brady needs to come clean. He is already guilty in the court of public opinion. If he wants to fight this in court his legacy will further be tainted. Going to court will make the entire organization look bad, especially if the call the ball boy that was fired to the witness stand.
    Who destroys evidence thats needed to prove your innocence. If anything you would have all the emails downloaded and stored just in case the phone is lost or broken.

  58. A fish stinks from the head down. And this guy STINKS.

    (And when can we expect an investigation into the quid quo pro that Kraft ADMITTED TO during his hissy fit rant? How should his accepting HIS punishment have ANYTHING to do with BRADY’S punishment? Unless, of course, it’s tied to what all of us already know: That the Patriots EXPECT preferential/back room treatment!!))

  59. bvolke says: Jul 29, 2015 10:49 AM

    Every Pats fan, “There’s no way Brady is guilty. He said he didn’t do it.”

    Every single person with a reasonable thought in their brain that studies the evidence and comes to a clear conclusion, “He’s lucky he was only suspended for four games.”

    ———-

    Then why does the CBA state a $25,000 fine for tampering with the ball?

    What planet do you live on that Greg Hardy’s case is equal to Brady’s.

    Grow up.

  60. In Summary:

    I am extremely disappointed that we got busted for cheating yet again. Twice in less than 7 years. I figured there was enough circumstantial evidence that I could point to that would make people believe there is a chance we weren’t cheating.

    But Tommy Boy screwed all that up by not cooperating and purposely destroying his cell phone, which is obviously something the average person wouldn’t do if they were innocent.

    Signed,
    Robert Kraft

  61. I don’t know if Kraft is smart or dumb. If he’s smart then he’s known exactly how Belichick and coaching staff have cheated 99 ways every Sunday for 15 years. That’s who should be pissed at. Not the commoner. He could’ve fired the coach and replaced him. If he’s dumb then he has know idea what the Cisco is doing and is blaming the commissioner because the owner is dumb and will bring in a bad coach that doesn’t cheat and bring the team back to what they are historically. Absolutely nothing.

    From these two choices, I’m going with he’s dumb. A smart man knows he can replace a coach that embarrassed the organization for 15 years. That hasn’t happened…

  62. The sheer arrogance of Bob Kraft is just appalling. He thought that just because Brady appealed, that there is an automatic reduction in penalties???? They’ve been negotiating for months and all the league wanted was an admission of guilt. Brady, in all of his arrogance, refused, so the league RIGHTFULLY upheld the suspension.

    The Pats STILL don’t get it. All these arrogant and scorched earth press conferences are just causing the league to dig their heals in further. They have no choice because of the monster this has become. If they back down when they KNOW and the Pats know Brady is guilty, then they’ll be the laughing stock of the sporting world.

  63. Let us look at past performance to gauge credibility:

    The league office lied about Ray Rice, lied about concussion settlement talks, lied about network agreements, lied about lying, and engaged in bullying and strong arming its own players over an event in Nevada, to name a recent few.

    Tom Brady has a history of….? Yeah, I think I’ll choose to ride off into the sunset on the Brady horse while you all die on the league sword trying to take down an honest man and model citizen.

    I hope you all go through something like this when you are innocent and have to face a police force, judge, jury and public that silence your screams with fraudulent conduct and assign guilt because of envy.

  64. Funny that Pats fans still thinking that Goodell oes home and consult his wife about a fair punsihment for NFL players. I am sure that the NFL have a big team of mean and bad lawyers. Pats, at this point, are only trying to save some face.

  65. Love how the sheep have returned, just like after the Wells Report dropped. You will all slowly disappear once truth and logic prevail. The US court system isn’t run by a dictator, you have to use actual facts and not simply accusations there.

  66. joecoz17 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:46 AM
    if Brady and the Pats are so innocent why did they fire the ball boys immediately?

    _______________________

    Jesus we just end this comment once and for all??? Band it from the comment section completely.

    They were suspended at the request of the NFL, not the Patriots. Get your fact sheeple.

  67. The Patriots earned everything they got from the SB’s to the punishment for Spygate.

    They earned it all….except this…

    This has been a fiasco of a witchhunt from day 1 dragging one of the greatest qb’s to ever play this game face through the mud.

    Spygate…ok
    Illegal formations….no
    Ball Pressure…no

    If my team got beat by NE on a regular basis I would be jealous too..

  68. Is it just me or is all we talk about regarding the NFL nowadays lawsuits (or threats of lawsuits), trials, Goodell, arbitrators, special investigations and committees, contract disputes, arrests, threats of franchises moving, stadium disputes, international expansion, etc?

  69. shadywarrior says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:51 AM
    What really blows my mind is that anybody actually believes that Brady and the Patriots would fight such an insignificant alleged offense to this degree if they were actually guilty. Can a interest any of you in a quaint chalet in a ski town in Puerto Rico?

    ==============

    Ryan Braun, the reigning MLB MVP at the time fought a sterioid suspension to the bitter end, including calling out people in a nasty tirade in the press that got the people collecting the samples, etc. fired. None of those people got their jobs back but Braun got to keep his MVP. Just because there aren’t asterisks doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be.

    Barry Bonds went to congress and perjured himself.

    Lance Armstrong sued anyone who accused him of doping for libel. Would a guilty man do that?

    With Athletes it’s all about protecting the “brand” until the bitter end. If Brady had admitted this “insignificent offense” at the beginning he most likely would’ve just ended up paying a fine. Indeed the league was willing to waive most of the penalties if he would just admit to cheating. The coverup is worse than the crime.

  70. It is hard to get to the truth here because there is so much mis-information that has been published by the media. You don’t what is true and not true. Wish the facts were laid out.

  71. Hey bobby you can’t sue the NFL anymore like al Davis did

    It’s in your by laws.

    Expect to have the other 31 dance on your face if you try to sue.

    Admit your guilt and move on…..hope they ban you and your pathetic cheating franchise

  72. Regardless of how and why it all started this entire dog and pony show is looking more and more like a power struggle. This has morphed into a management vs labor issue as well as a League Office vs individual team statement. It is apparent that the league office interprets the CBA to mean they are all powerful as regards investigation and discipline, the NFLPA obviously holds a slightly differing view. When you want to make a lasting statement you go after the biggest guy in the room. Let’s also not forget Brady was the NFLPA’s lead plaintiff in the antitrust suit. If the League Office can take down Brady and make Bob Kraft knuckle under what other player or owner would even try them on? When it comes to labor law and civil suits precedent is huge.

    This might have started out as something relatively inconsequential then progressed to brinkmanship but it has now moved on to this. A high stakes game about power and boundaries. And with the latest statement from Kraft in support of Brady it appears everyone might be willing to go all in.

  73. He clearly thinks the Patriots organization is bigger than the league. Can you imagine Elway, Shanahan and Bowlen saying stuff like this after the Broncos were caught cheating the cap during their championship years?

    Time for some humbling.

  74. I was willing to accept the harshest penalty in the history of the NFL for an alleged ball violation because I believed it would help exonerate Tom.
    ============================
    Harshest penalty? That’s a slap in every Saints fan’s face! Go crawl under a rock please Bob

  75. can Kraft & the rest of the Patriots just shut the hell up & accept the punishment? You’re all making idiots of yourselves. The Patriots are NOT bigger than the NFL so just shut up already. Maybe if Brady didn’t destroy his own phone he wouldn’t look so guilty. But I guess as a team, once a cheater always a cheater.

  76. No matter the outcome, the Patriots will be remembered by many fans as the franchise that cheated their way to titles. Not a legacy I would want for my team! *Patriots

  77. Brady destroyed his cellphone intentionally the DAY BEFORE his interview with Wells…

    that is as smoking gun as it gets

  78. “if Brady and the Pats are so innocent why did they fire the ball boys immediately?”

    The NFL called the Patriots and suggested it – ESPN reported it.

  79. I told you so, Robert. Rolling over for the worthless Jets failures in the league office just encourages them, they have no sense of honor or propriety. It’s even lost on them how it is insulting to their own team how the only way they can beat Brady is with lawyers. Help Brady win his lawsuit and send Goodell out of town on a rail and we’ll call it even.

  80. No hard evidence???? perhaps there would be if Brady had turned over his phone and not destroyed it

  81. I wish he would have added a statement that

    “Roger Goodell is not welcome in our stadium for the opening game, or for any other NFL game at Gillette Stadium. He obviously has the right to attend should he wish to do so, but we do not welcome the presence of ANY NFL personnel who have contributed to this miscarriage of justice, including Mr. Goodell.”

  82. How does a reasonable person expect that accepting a punishment, and then firing two accused conspirators make it any easier to exonerate the third. Maybe for leniency (which it looks like Goddell made every effort to give), but expecting anything else is attempted bribery.

  83. There’ no business like show business that I know.
    #New England Patriots The Worlds Team

    Goodall is done,good luck with NFLPA negotiations next time around.The NFL has shown complete incompetence.
    Releasing false readings is so “beyond lame’ and this is a billion $ industry.
    A lot of ignorant comments here.
    I’ve always thought football ball fans have the lowest common IQ.
    Do you feel safe watching a game with your family when you are a visitor in a stadium.
    Brady is not in fear.
    He did everything he was required to and more.

  84. shadywarrior says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:51 AM
    What really blows my mind is that anybody actually believes that Brady and the Patriots would fight such an insignificant alleged offense to this degree if they were actually guilty. Can a interest any of you in a quaint chalet in a ski town in Puerto Rico?
    ————————–

    First, they knew this would land them in ‘multiple offender status’. Also, the big picture: Spygate is not forgotten, and many in the league are convinced there was much more going on (including first hand accounts). There has also been first hand accounts of the Pats replacing game balls. They’s been investigate for illegal radio signals, used in stadium, giving Brady an unfair advantage. They know that the organization is at critical mass, in part, due to increased awareness due to a Superbowl run. This is the straw that broke the camel’s back, even though it pales in comparison to previous offenses, it only enhances a national perception that they’re trying to squash.

  85. shadywarrior says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:40 AM
    Thank you, Mr. Kraft. We needed to hear that. I won’t lie, I just went from six to midnight watching that.

    Winners focus on winning.
    Losers focus on winners.

    ——

    This is why every Patriots fan on this site goes on stories about the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets and comments “DER WRECKS RYAN IS GENERALLY AWARE HIS TEAM IS BAD SO THE BILLS SHOULD ALL BE SUSPENDED” when no one has said anything about deflategate.

  86. This will not go to court. No lawyer will put Tom Brady on the stand and then have him cross examinef. They would fear a Col. Nathan Jessup responce from Brady.This was just a sideshow for the Patriot fans.
    Standard tactics these days.
    There maybe a little more sabre rattling, but Goodell called Brady’s bluff and that will be it. Done.

  87. Fine the Patriots a second rounder in ’17, I watched Kraft’s statement and that was conduct detrimental to the league. He took shot after shot at the league, which is incredibly easy when there’s no one to rebut or even to take questions on the statement.

  88. Hey Kraft, shut it already. Patriots* pathetic delusional fanbase has an idiot owner leading the charge. Keep up the fight, you look ridiculous and it’s funny to watch.

  89. davehamgood says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:10 AM

    There’ no business like show business that I know.
    #New England Patriots The Worlds Team

    Goodall is done,good luck with NFLPA negotiations next time around

    ——————————————

    The NFLPA is the entire reason Goodell can get away with this.

  90. how hard is it to simply find to two fired NE employees, offer them a dump truck full of money, and get them to tell their story?
    unless they signed a non-disclosure agreement upon their release.. which would be sketchy.

    like destroying your phone on the day its requested to assist in an investigation is sketchy.

    like destroying your security system on the day the police come to investigate is sketchy..

    like destroying the tapes of filming other teams practices is sketchy…

  91. The only reason this story is remotely interesting any more is the hysteria from the minority of Patriots fans who love to point and laugh at other teams.

    Payback sucks, don’t it fellas?

  92. Hopefully, the lawyers can get the suspension stayed so Brady can play week one against the Steelers in that opening game. He deserves as much since he’s the reigning SB MVP. It’s only fair. After that first game, if he still needs to serve the suspension, I guess he’ll have to serve it.

  93. letsgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:52 AM

    Everyone on this thread is now dumber for having read this.

    ———

    how many times did you read it, 15, 20?

  94. Sad to see the Brady camp employ this Deny, Deny, Deny strategy to try to protect his base fans. Get as many of your business people out there saying how appalled they are – to attempt to push out headlines about you being a cheater. Politics 101.

    Well played Tom, but you’re still a CHEATER. I hope you enjoy your new phone.

  95. multiple offender, you mean like Suh whose suspension was removed?

    the lawsuit will go forward, and then there will be a settlement, and all this could have been avoided had there not been such jealousy by a few owners.

    You think the other owners are going to be happy when CBS comes and says their sponsors want a rebate and we demand a rebate too?

    This suspension based on “destroying” a phone, after providing the list of calls and texts shows that there was no way the suspension was going to be reduced because of the “pressure” being exerted on Godell by the small jealous owners.

    the way the false press releases were sent out by the NFL’s lackies just may be part of the next lawsuit, defamation of character, with malice.

    This is war boys, going to the mattresses, unless calmer heads can prevail.

    Only problem this time is that calmer head who led the NFL is now the guy you are at war with.

    I really hope a Mara or Ford steps up and asks why are we shooting ourselves in the foot?

  96. restoreintegritytonfl says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:42 AM

    The Patriot Way of lying and cheating originates at the top, with the loathsome, whining Robert Graft.

    —————————————————————

    Is your continuous use of “Robert Graft” supposed to be funny? Witty?
    I don’t get it, and I am pretty smart.
    I can’t come up with anything other than it being really stupid.

  97. One good thing in there. They handed over Belichick’s phone. So there was nothing on Tom’s phone that was to or from Belichick that they don’t already have and none of those texts were revealed in the Wells report. Therefore Brady didn’t delete his phone to protect Belichick. In addition, if they had every other team employees they requested too, we can assume that Brady did not send or receive any damning texts to any other team employees at all or they would have been revealed in the Wells report too.

    That leaves me to ask, who was he texting that would be relevant to the case that they don’t already have? Texts to and from his wife, family or friends or other players? That’s all that is left.

  98. if an AFC team wins the SB this year other than the Patriots, then there is a legitimate reason to add an asterisk, they were given an unfair advantage.

  99. I don’t get it, they got caught cheating before and now they are saying there is no “hard evidence”? I suppose that is his out but for a team where one of the employees is nicknamed, “the Deflator” and the other destroys his cell phone on the same day as his hearing, the benefit of any doubt just went out the window.

    I have a novel idea, why not accept the punishment and move on. Apologize for cheating in the past (without getting specific) and then move on.

  100. Of course your owners going to say this. Thats like sticking up for my own kid even tho I know he did something wrong. Face it Kraft, your boys a cheater and liar and he never had no intention of cooperating from the beginning. The cost of missing his tainted sb spooked him.

  101. thebirdofprey2 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:43 AM
    Kraft Tom Brady, your organization and the word integrity do not go together. The Patriots are the definition of cheaters in sports.

    Tom Brady = Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds, Pete Rose.
    —————————————————————-
    Could you please let us all know how Pete Rose cheated?
    Have you got a clue as to what is going on?

  102. I would love to see a comment from anyone that is truly objective and aware of facts!! If you don’t like the patriots today, you never will. If you like the patriots, you probably always will.

    But to continuously recycle opinions based on garbage? I am neither an accuser nor a defender, but most of the vitriol is related to Spygate. Spygate, where the filming of the other team was not illegal. What had become illegal was the location from where it could be done. Belichick/Belicheat (if you prefer) ignored the memo, IN THE FACE of the NFL office. They/he were rightfully proven guilty. So be it. He paid and the team paid. (I will suggest that “cheating” in this context is extreme, but I would not argue against anyone taking that position. A rule violation of any sort is cheating, like peeking over the shoulder of your class mate to see what they come up with on the question that you didn’t know the answer to.)

    I do not defend the Pats on Spygate. They broke the rules, and were punished. Guilty!! And it appears to have tarnished their previous successes. “If they cheated then, than they must have cheated before!!”

    That single episode, compounded with the fact that lots of people don’t like coach Belichick created a lynch mob mentality. Plus all of a sudden the team wins. There must be something more going on.

    But back to to my original point… try fact based analysis. Don’t just regurgitate items that have been spun a gazillion time in the media. Voice an opinion, but understand the facts to support it. Matters not to me, other than it is more fun to read reasonable comments.

    Or hate them because you hate them (or “They suck; they cheat”!!) or love them because you love them (“Haters want to hate!!!”).

  103. ALL BARK… no bite to this puppy.

    He caved in personally and now is only tying to save face with the delusional pat brats.

    Accept the punishment you’ve earned and clean up your act for the future patriots!

  104. Did we frame the US Constitution & Judicial Courts from the Spanish Inquisition?

    What country are we in?

    Am I having a nightmare or am I in the movie theartre watching a Science Fiction movie about the demise of America?

  105. Its funny how NE never has any problems with their headsets at Gillette stadium but only the visitors seem to have issues from time to time lol

  106. Goodell is moving the Goalposts

    Wells: We don’t want Brady’s cellphone – just the copies of the relevant texts.

    Brady to Goodell: Here they are!

    Goodell to Brady: Thanks. But now I want your cellphone. If you don’t give it up, you’re guilty.

    ——————

    Wells: “We believe Brady was generally aware of something more probable than not to have happened”

    Goodell: Who cares about the Wells Report and the $5 million. I’m going to say what the mindless gullible fans want to hear – “Brady was definitely aware of something that definitely happened even though I have no evidence to back that statement up”

    NOTE TO HATERS – Goodell is insulting your intelligence and you are proving him right!!

  107. While I still think it was really dumb to destroy the phone, if Brady was never going to provide it and had the right to refuse then it might not matter in court.

  108. Brady should just come out and say he loves Obama and supports Hillary.

    The media will not investigate anything further – and this will all go away.

  109. No other team in the league has been caught in as many compromising positions as the pats have.why believe them now I’m shocked he didn’t testify that Hernandez was at his house playing cards when the murder took place. Quit the hating bob.

  110. ” given the actual evidence of the situation and the league’s history on discipline matters, would make it much easier for the league to exonerate Tom Brady.”………………..
    ————————————————–
    like a previous poster said, “so much spin it makes you dizzy”. The above quote is great spin for basically saying his willingness to accept the Pats punishment was a bribe to save Brady. The spin on the destruction of Brady’s cellphone is enough to make you throw up, I don’t care what Kraft, the Pats or Brady himself offered up to the league in stead of the actual cell phone, the destruction of the phone and the timing of it speaks for itself. After the phone is destroyed it’s quite easy to claim whatever you want as there is no way to absolutely disprove those claims without the actual phone……..thus, there is only one reason why the phone was destroyed. Add in the past indiscretions /cheating of the Pats and it shows a pattern of this type of behavior. Also, take into consideration that Kraft is perhaps the closest confidant (butt kisser) of Goodell (don’t worry Jerrah you are right there too) and if he couldn’t persuade Goodell with his bribe, there is little doubt as to the Pats/Brady’s cheating…..once again.

  111. bullcharger says:

    One good thing in there. They handed over Belichick’s phone. So there was nothing on Tom’s phone that was to or from Belichick that they don’t already have and none of those texts were revealed in the Wells report. Therefore Brady didn’t delete his phone to protect Belichick.
    ================================

    this is key to me, until today i assumed there was a quid pro quo to not go after Belichick, because if he was complicit, there would be a year suspension.

    with Brady handing over the spreadsheet of calls and texts and the league effectively moving the goal posts and demanding his phone it is clear there was an agenda.

    Further, the NFL statement saying the suspension was upheld because of Brady “destroying” his phone appears to remove the deflation aspect of the penalty. especially because the league now has come up with a procedure for the balls, never before in place.

    it is pretty clear Godell could not lower the suspension because of owner “pressure”.

  112. itsfootballbaby says: Why would you destroy your cell phone? I have a box full of old cell phones in my closet. It never occurred to me to take a hammer to any of them.
    ========================

    Baaa sheep! Yet another gullible fan who believes Goodell and has made a HUGE leap of logic that “Brady took a hammer to them”

    That’s as true as the NFL’s letter stating that 11 of 12 footballs were 2lbs under – which you probably think is true as well!

  113. On the podium at the Super Bowl presentation next Feb, I hope Kraft, Brady and Belichick tell Goodell where to stick that trophy. Then drop the mike and walk away.

  114. This entire situation is a waste of everyone’s time…. You have to believe Goodell will end up somehow looking like an idiot in the end again.

  115. Patriots fans defense of Brady citing no hard evidence must make them also believe that Hernandez wasn’t guilty of murder because there was no video of it happening or a murder weapon recovered.

    It’s sad what this country has devolved into.

  116. Can’t wait to hear Tommies dad crying at the podium “Just return my baby safe”. Buh friggin WAH!.

  117. If Goodell was in the wrong. Other oweners would be supporting Kraft.

    They aren’t and it has zero to do with winning, or what bs legacy Pats fans think they still have. It’s a business. You don’t take short cuts. Cowboys/Skins shouldn’t have been penalized when they didn’t collude with other teams during the CBA, but owners agreed they should be punished anyway.

    Deal with it like a grown man instead of stomping around like a 2 year old.

  118. youbelievethat says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:24 AM

    But back to to my original point… try fact based analysis.
    ——————–
    Ok.

    Brady refused to fully cooperate with an internal company investigation. If I did that, I would be fired immediately. Brady got off easy with only a 4 game suspension.

    Those are the only facts I need to know. I don’t care about the footballs. I don’t care about the phone, or what was on it, or that he destroyed it.

  119. hakunamangata says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:39 AM
    Didn’t he also believe and trust Hernandez to be a good guy because he told him?

    For a billionaire Robbie sure isn’t the greatest judge of character now is he?

    Exactly. He put his faith into the league as well
    and they screwed him over too.

  120. bullcharger says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:21 AM

    Any phones the NFL were ‘handed’ were patriot issued phones. Now if you have a personal phone and a work phone and you were going to text other companies trying to find a new position- would you use your work issued one or personal one? I cannot believe you are that ignorant to think that since they looked at work issued phones then that’s all the information there is to be seen. Thats like if my g/f asks to see my phone b/c she thinks im cheating i say “ok you can look at the last hour only, nothing more” and if you dont find anything in the last hr of texts then im innocent. lol.

  121. Owner: Arrogant, overinflated sense of entitlement, liar, cheater. Check

    Head Coach: Arrogant, overinflated sense of entitlement, liar, cheater. Check

    QB: Arrogant, overinflated sense of entitlement, liar, cheater. Check

    Ladies and Gentlemen…YOUR 2015 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!

  122. did the NFL actually say he Destroyed his phone?

    was this another lie, Wells will be testifying on this question.

    another piece added to the malice pile?

  123. Mr Kraft, you’re welcome to take yourself, your QB, and your team and get the F–K out of the National Football League whenever you like. I hear the league office of the Canadian Football League is might be more to your liking, and I’m sure they’d welcome an expansion team from the US.

    You bafoon.

  124. Interesting how Kraft’s statement this am and Florio’s penned last night are nearly identical. Almost like they were written by the same spinmaste… er author. For a while I have thought PFT doth protest too much, now I have my answer.

    I agree with many points people make about this issue. It has been blown up way too much and far too many column inches have been dedicated to it.

    But the reality is Tom got busted. Only a complete simpleton could at this point say it’s not clear what happened. All he had to do was say “I’m sorry” “I didn’t think it was a big deal, I was wrong.” 90% of the “haters” would pat him on the back and say lets move on – you are also a great QB. Instead Tom has to let his ego drive the bus in to the open cesspool and walk out stinking up the joint.

    I understand Kraft protecting one of his greatest assets, but frankly it just makes it look like he condones this tradition of cheating his team is known for.

  125. What exactly did Wells think he would uncover with Brady’s phone? EVERY SINGLE PATRIOTS EMPLOYEE GAVE UP THEIR PHONES! You think he’s conspiring with his dad and mom about deflated footballs? Maybe Giselle is in on it? Maybe Uggs? I know…it was Mark Wahlberg on the set of Ted 2 that gave Brady the idea to deflate balls.

  126. wilburmills says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:10 AM

    No hard evidence???? perhaps there would be if Brady had turned over his phone and not destroyed it

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Maybe – Maybe Not. Either way;
    1.) The NFL has no right to access anyone’s private phone.
    2.) The NFL also FAILED to produce any evidence whatsoever that any rule violation occurred after 5 months & $5 million investigation.
    3.) The NFL rejected indisputable evidence that did not support the witch hunt and banned the media and anyone under their sway from acknowledging that evidence.
    4.) The NFL lied on National TV and has not stopped lying.
    5.) Absolutely worst case scenario in supposed ‘refusal to cooperate’ is a $50,000 fine, as set by the NFL (see Favre).
    6.) NFL continues to commit Theft By Deception and Defamation of Character

  127. It’s sad to me that the NFL is so poorly run that the leadership was unable to handle this situation appropriately from the beggining and come to a quick resolution that allowed the fans to focus on football instead of he said she said in regards to cell phones and PSI in footballs.

    And I am not putting the blame solely on the league. Everyone gets a piece of the blame here. Kraft, Brady, Goodell, Irsay, Biscotti, etc.

  128. Skol Vikes says:

    Patriots fans defense of Brady citing no hard evidence must make them also believe that Hernandez wasn’t guilty of murder because there was no video of it happening or a murder weapon recovered.

    =================================

    there was never any thought that Hernandez was not guilty, this was not a drunken boat party it was a murder.

    he was found guilty, and his next case, where he murdered two others will go the same way.

    grow up

  129. will these entitled phonies ever shut up? who would believe what kraft says? their choice, calculated wording is disgusting.

  130. And it’s funny how Kraft has supported every single decision Roger has made in his career. He openly said Roger handled the Ray Rice debacle well and he was doing the right thing, he is 1 of 3 owners to get Roger his $44 million dollar salary. Now all the sudden the NFL’s process is a “sham”? You cant support every move made by Roger and then when he has to punish you say he is terrible at his job and the process is a sham.

  131. flash1287 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:40 AM
    Kraft just went Al Davis on the commissioner

    Not to mention calling him out for try to win the public…

    Yesterday’s decision by Commissioner was released in a similar manner, under an erroneous headline that read, “Tom Brady destroyed his cellphone.”
    ———————————————-

    “Erroneous”? And how do you know? Because Tom Brady says so? Yes, how convenient his phone just happened to break at such a crucial time in the investigation.

    I guess you’re buying that bit about the Deflator nickname, too.

  132. The part that I find interesting here is that the anti-Patriot crowd believes that this an organizational-wide practice that has been exploited to reduce fumbles and improve performance. So Matt Cassel was the starter in 2008 and now he plays for their rival – did they hide the secret from their own starting QB? Hoyer in Cleveland, Mallet in Houston, Tebow, McDaniels was head coach in Denver and coordinator in St. Louis…
    I work for the military – I guess they have a better track record of hiding their secrets than the US military does.
    I think that Brady likes his balls on the 12 PSI side of the tracks and told his guys to make it happen. The NFL pulled a sting operation that came up empty and have spent the entire year trying to spin it the opposite way. Even though Brady looks bad right now, i still believe the NFL is 90% to blame for this fiasco.

  133. billburke says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:39 AM

    For those New Englanders with EXTRA thick skulls i’ll repeat this agian………..

    Any phones the NFL were ‘handed’ were patriot issued phones. Now if you have a personal phone and a work phone and you were going to text other companies trying to find a new position- would you use your work issued one or personal one? I cannot believe you are that ignorant to think that since they looked at work issued phones then that’s all the information there is to be seen. 100% of deflategate texts SHOULD be on personal phones and not Patriot issued phones, JJ and JM were completely stupid for using Patriot issued phones to mention anything of this sorts, but they did and it has created doubt. Now lets see how far the rabbit hole goes when we see their personal phones.

  134. Kraft, Bill and Tom truly believe they are above the rules. The more I think about this conspiracy to cheat Brady is getting a gift of only 4 games.

    Kraft, Bill and Tom have chosen Pete Rose to fill their dream foursome.

  135. Eric Berry is back from lymphoma! The Cardinals hire the first female coach! Training camps start this week!

    Great news is abound in the NFL! What do we hear about instead?

    Tom Brady. Tom Brady. Tom Brady. Tom Brady. Tom Brady. Tom Brady. Tom Brady.

  136. greyghost33 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:44 AM

    Cassell or any other QB doesnt need to know about this. They are told “the game balls are what Tom likes, if you step in then you have to use them”. Why do you think they have to tell back ups or the center or the RB anything about this??? And you clearly are not military if you think this was sting. What kind of ‘sting’ operation doesnt document very specifically the PSI readings before the game? or doesnt follow the ball boy and as soon as he takes them into the bathroom they catch him in the act? The ‘sting’ was to do nothing and wait for the colts to complain and then check PSI?!?!?! WORST STING EVER if thats the case. They should have tailed the ball boy and as soon as he left the bathroom check the PSI levels- but this def was no sting.

  137. grandsonofcoach says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:46 AM
    Kraft, if your organization did nothing wrong and the pressure test results are flawed why did you suspend the two ball handlers indefinitely?

    ________________________

    Because the NFL told them to, are you even paying attention?

  138. Mr Kraft, please stop. You’re only digging the hole deeper. I love my team, but this has been an utter embarrassment. Destroying his phone only makes Brady look guilty, spreadsheet or not.
    It’s only 4 games and they’re not taking our trophies.

  139. conormacleod says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:34 AM

    Ok.

    Brady refused to fully cooperate with an internal company investigation. If I did that, I would be fired immediately. Brady got off easy with only a 4 game suspension.

    Those are the only facts I need to know. I don’t care about the footballs. I don’t care about the phone, or what was on it, or that he destroyed it.

    —————-

    Perhaps I was too SUBTLE! You know that how?? We know nothing! We are blinded by so much info/mis-info that we really don’t know the facts. Well, unless ESPN is your trusted source.

    And I presume you do not belong to a union, because then your premise is totally shot!

  140. 2008 Election Year = PATRIOTS vs Giants

    2012 Election Year = PATRIOTS vs Giants

    2015 SB XIXL PATRIOTS win & Brady Refuses Oblama

    2015 NFL Season = Slander Brady, Suspend Brady, Keep the Patriots from Home Field advantage & SB

    2015 NFL vs Brady, NFL = NYC = GIANTS

    2016 Election Year = NFL keep the Patriots OUT of the SB

    2016 = NFL = NYC = UN Headquarters = Oblama as UN Chief(President/Ruler) Hilary as US President = US Constitution Submits to UN Rule just like Goodell & the NFL right now.

  141. Haters haters haters…..the Patriots win and you hate! It’s funny you never a peep from any NFC teams, only the cry baby Broncos, Ravens, Colts, Jets, Bills, Dolphins, Steelers…and why is that because they can never consistently beat the Patriots….cry cry cry

  142. “Now, the league has taken the matter to court, which is a tactic that only a lawyer would recommend.”

    Factually speaking, the NFLPA is taking this to court. Kraft is spinning this as hard as he can.

  143. What is ridiculous is that everyone knows letting a bit of air out of balls makes very little difference. This has been blown out of all proportion, and Goodall is to blame for this. Two pressure gauges, each very different is the NFL’s fault. trying to setup a sting in the middle of a championship game looks very bad for the NFL, but they are glossing over all this, etc etc. The NFL looks like it was out to get the Pats, and now they have new rules in places for the balls, it makes it look even more obvious how lacking they were before. Aaron Rodgers likes the pressure of balls high but nobody tested any other team. If I was Brady I’d tell Goodall where he can stick his 50th Anniversary celebrations, let’s see how good it looks having one of the best QB’s of the last decade missing.

  144. thegenoatkinsdiet says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:16 AM
    The only reason this story is remotely interesting any more is the hysteria from the minority of Patriots fans who love to point and laugh at other teams.

    Payback sucks, don’t it fellas?
    —————————-
    It’s true that we do like to point and laugh at other teams. Guilty as charged.
    Payback sucks? I’ll continue to point and laugh at you, with another Lombardi trophy in the Patriots back pocket, while you beat your chest as a loser.

  145. Its about time Bob… now you realize the other 31 dont care about you. How many times will the NFL be allowed to lie to the public? For 5 million dollars, the effort to research the text messages of all the numbers given to them was “too much work???”

  146. im tired of all the deflection surrounding the balls being deflated of air pressure, the coverup is always worse than the crime

    brady was suspended for not complying with a league investigation and then during the appeal straight up admitted he destroyed evidence

    if you can prove that brady was complicit with the league investigation UP FRONT i’d love to hear it

  147. What choice did Blowhard Bob have to go, 1-Back Brady 2-Do Nothing or 3-Denounce Brady. I worked as a steward in a big union at one point in my life. It is the job of the Union to stand up fro the rank and file no matter what. One time (3) guys got caught smoking pot red handed. That was an immediate firing back then. Mike Florio can back me on this we all went into a room screamed and yelled both sides. The Union told a bunch of whoppers and at the end of the day it was a three day suspension. Everyone left that meeting and was good with what happen. Kraft threw his teams fines under the bus looking for a reduction not exoneration I heard that in his statement. So the real cub reporter story is why did negotiations not come up with a solution.

  148. Marshawn Lunch says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:53 AM

    Factually speaking, the NFLPA is taking this to court. Kraft is spinning this as hard as he can.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    WRONG

    FACTUALLY the NFL has already gone to Federal Court in NYC to stop the Brady from getting a FAIR TRIAL.

    NFLPA going to court was a last resort if Goodell did not accept NFL rulings that ONLY support a fine for Brady.

    NFL Headquarters is in NYC.
    Goodell is a Liar & Thief as he now wants to try Brady (Boston) in NYC.

    WAKE UP PEOPLE – WAKE UP

  149. Most people are not very bright, nor do they read beyond the headlines in the new twitterverse we live in.

    The NFL has been masterful at controlling the headlines.

  150. Pure lies. He only has one goal, as he should–putting a winning team on the field, winning another championship. He never considered accepting full punishment in hopes of “exonerating Tom”. BS. He did what he thought would get them out of this, he was wrong, and he lost. Now, he is whining and crying conspiracy. It’s pathetic at this point. If the NFL is really out to get you and everyone but you is against you and in on it–YOURE SCREWED. No one believes that. No one. How would it benefit anyone to have this garbage be news 24/7???? Why hasn’t one decent honest person come forward and said “Goodell made me lie” or some other owner saying straight up “Goodell and the NFL front office are out to ruin Brady and the Patriots?”. Everyone is in on it?? C’mon man!!!!!!

  151. letsgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:51 AM

    greyghost33 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:44 AM

    Cassell or any other QB doesnt need to know about this. They are told “the game balls are what Tom likes, if you step in then you have to use them”. Why do you think they have to tell back ups or the center or the RB anything about this???

    —————————————————————-
    Cassel started 15 games for the Patriots in 2008. if deflating footballs is such a huge advantage, I’m sure they would have let him in on it. He’s your QB now – I’m sure he doesn’t give a crap about falsely protecting the Patriots

  152. “I truly believe what I did in May, given the actual evidence of the situation and the league’s history on discipline matters, would make it much easier for the league to exonerate Tom Brady.”

    I love the honesty here. Kraft openly admits that he thought he had a deal with the league that Brady would get off if he accepted the team punishment.

    Well, I guess he thought wrong, didn’t he?

  153. itsfootballbaby says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:22 AM

    Why would you destroy your cell phone? I have a box full of old cell phones in my closet. It never occurred to me to take a hammer to any of them.

    —————–

    It’s a bad idea to keep old technology like that.

    All your personal data is on those devices (whether they are deleted or not) should they fall into the wrong hands. Have you ever sent a message with a Credit Card number in it? It will be on there.

    Also, if you end up in a lawsuit all those could be admissible in the discovery phase because you have them.

    Everyone should have a policy to destroy old devices that store personal data. That can be anything older than a certain age (7 years), or every time you switch tech. It’s important.

  154. Owners will now have to choose between Kraft and Goodell. Bye Roger, don’t let the door hit your er backside on the way out.

  155. tavisteelersfan says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:51 AM

    Why did he fire the two guys?

    ———–

    Same reason he accepted the fines. He thought it was the right thing to do to get back to football and to help Brady be exonerated. Imagine if they were still working there?

  156. Mr. Kraft look at your investment in the NFL. If Brady is exonerated I see the NFL as a cheating organization, and I will not watch the NFL anymore. Why should any other team’s fan watch when they think the Superbowl winner has already been determined before the season. Brady cheating has undermined the integrity of the game. I thought he might be innocent, but destroying the phone on the day you are to meet with Wells screams “Guilty”. Or at the very least it screams he feels he is above the law and rules. Disgusting Mr. Kraft.

  157. richndc says:
    Jul 29, 2015 12:05 PM

    Pure lies. He only has one goal, as he should–putting a winning team on the field, winning another championship. He never considered accepting full punishment in hopes of “exonerating Tom”. BS. He did what he thought would get them out of this, he was wrong, and he lost. Now, he is whining and crying conspiracy. It’s pathetic at this point. If the NFL is really out to get you and everyone but you is against you and in on it–YOURE SCREWED. No one believes that. No one. How would it benefit anyone to have this garbage be news 24/7???? Why hasn’t one decent honest person come forward and said “Goodell made me lie” or some other owner saying straight up “Goodell and the NFL front office are out to ruin Brady and the Patriots?”. Everyone is in on it?? C’mon man!!!!!!

    ———————-

    No one is out to get anyone. The NFL think the Patriots are guilty of impacting the integrity of the game and the Patriots are proclaiming innocence like any innocent person should. Goodell has maintained the 4 games and the Patriots and Brady are taking it to the last step. The courts will rule one way or another and everyone will get on with life.

  158. Mr. Kraft. You can’t put the toothpaste back in to the tube. Your organization created this mess, and it’s not the first time you’ve been caught cheating. I understand trying to gain any possible advantage, just like A-Rod did. So what. You got caught. Just try to play by the rules. Nobody is picking on you. You’re the bully here. You’re just getting your butt kicked a little, and you’re not used to it. Quit crying like a little baby.

  159. greyghost33 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 12:06 PM

    If they are deflating why would they have to tell Cassell about it???? if they hand a pitcher a hat with pine tar and call it something else he doesnt need to know. The club only cares about the production. And Cassell won 11 games that yr as the Patriots starter, while on the bills he wont start and may not even make the final roster. So, maybe he had an advantage in NE?????? or the team is just that good that even a crappy QB can win 11 games there and Tom just isnt as good as we think. He just thrives in an offense built on screen passes and 7 yd slants.

  160. Stephen a Smith says he has more info he is going to share on this situation. He got lambasted for breaking the story about the cell being damaged He also implied that there’s other people in the patriots organization that knew about what was going on . The patriots are playing a high-stakes game of poker and they have a losing hand

  161. As a fan of the NFL, this whole saga stinks. We should not know who Mike Kensil is and Roger Goodell should not be a daily topic of discussion. The league should be about football and football only and somehow over the past few years it’s become way more soap opera than sport. I hate that.

    People that care about football know that the crux of this story – 0.45 PSI in the ball is – inconsequential and ludicrous to have risen to this level of debate. There are things like ya know, blocking, tackling, play calling, route running, etc, etc , etc that are a bit more important that a fraction of a millimeter of ball inflation. Let’s play football please.

  162. The NFL is corrupt. Fans of teams other than the Pats think that it is not, but you are wrong. Its a good ole boys club , and you aren’t invited.

    I said it back in March, there are going to be lots of things coming out the NFL doesn’t want exposed. Cuban was right.

  163. Kraft needs to shut the you know what up and live with the ruling and start Garoppolo at QB for the first four games. Brady gets a free vacation and can go soak his head in a rain barrel so he can think more clearly. The stuffed shirt Patriots need a comeuppance and need to quit whining and move on. Nuff said.

  164. Hey Robert, you should stop supplying firearms as inducements to enter into contracts with players like Hernandez who would likely use them in a murder. Likewise, stop insisting your team cheat at every conceivable opportunity. Truth is, you should be sharing a cell with Aaron

  165. kraft and IRsay are the 2 worst owners in the NFL. They both cheated. Irsay forced his team to suck for luck and kraft hasn’t won anything without cheating.

  166. This is all on Tom! All he had to do is say I like the balls on the lower end didn’t know they were under the limit . He would of got a fine and that’s it. ALL ON TOM

  167. patriotinvasion says:
    Jul 29, 2015 12:20 PM

    if .4 PSI doesnt affect anything they why cheat and risk your legacy to get that extra .4 PSI? No one cheats if its not worth it to them. Thats like saying Barry Bonds would have had the same production without roids. Ummm then why did he do them? And some were .4 under, some were as much as a full 2 PSI under. Pats fans love to use the “.4” number like thats the only one, there were other balls more deflated. The patriots fumble ratio this yr and Brady’s QBR in cold weather, outdoor games will show us how much this helped (and yes i know what he did in the SB, that was not a cold weather, outdoor game where deflated balls help the most).

  168. 31 vs 1

    Love deflategate exposes the haters. We can’t beat you, so we’ll whine!

    No one would give a crap about this if Mort report was corrected. So all the dumb non real football fans think something big happened.. Based on report the balls barely had any air out of them.

    do people think Brady wants ball at 12.1, not 12.5 …..there is no difference between those two PSI levels NONE! How to explain it? Weather! Just like the colt balls showed deflation.

  169. I don’t give a crap, Kraft, about what you say about DeflateGate. But I DO GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE POISONS YOU PUT IN YOUR FOODS FOR PROFIT, MR. GMO!

  170. themeccalambeaufield says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:42 AM

    Now he comes to Tom’s defense when he already tucked his tail months ago? This is too funny!
    ————————————–

    I’m sure he believed that the league office would come to their senses, and show some of the integrity* that they always crow about.

    Clearly he was wrong.

    I doubt if there has ever been a bigger dissemination of lies and misinformation than the NFL League Office has done throughout this whole debacle.

  171. The man is telling lies. If Belichick surrendered his phone and Brady surrendered his phone, why then does theWells Report testify antithetically to these statements?

    When Robert Kraft said the league ordered Jastremski and McNally to be fired, Goodell came the following day and denied the order to fire the employees was from the league.

    This is Robert Kraft trying to provide details with no basis in fact as if they are true. Notice he discusses what lawyers do. Well, he is here doing the same thing for the sake of confusing people and leading people to sympathize for Brady.

    Another thing, this is not The NFL taking Brady to court as Kraft says. This is Brady taking the NFL to court because Brady is struggling to keep his reputation. So, he is going to court on the idea Goodell over stepped his authority when he did not recuse himself from hearing the appeal.

  172. and the lies just keep coming out of this patriot organization. I think the patriot organization should just join the CFL and lie and cheat in Canada all you want and your fans can make excuses up there. bye

  173. Robert Kraft told everyone in the Patriot organization to cooperate fully with the investigators.

    As it turns out, Brady did not, the Patriots legal team did not, and McNally was not brought in for follow up questions by the investigators, because the Patriots legal team would not allow it. Brady even when so far as to commit spoliation of evidence.

    The NFL trusted the word of Robert Kraft at his word. And got no cooperation from the organization at all.

    You’ve got no one to blame but yourself, Kraft.

  174. joker65 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 12:24 PM

    The NFL is corrupt. Fans of teams other than the Pats think that it is not, but you are wrong. Its a good ole boys club , and you aren’t invited.

    I said it back in March, there are going to be lots of things coming out the NFL doesn’t want exposed. Cuban was right.

    Not a Pats fan… Agree the NFL is corrupt. Agree that this situation is 100% Tom’s fault. Had he just said he likes the balls on the low side, nothing probably ever would have been said or done about it.

  175. Are we ever going to find out how the Colts footballs got deflated or does that not matter? Inquiring minds want to know….

  176. greyghost

    Cassel started 15 games for the Patriots in 2008. if deflating footballs is such a huge advantage, I’m sure they would have let him in on it. He’s your QB now – I’m sure he doesn’t give a crap about falsely protecting the Patriots

    =====================================

    there are hundreds of ex patriots either retired, cut or still in the NFL playing for other teams.

    Why are they so silent on ALL THE CHEATING THE PATRIOTS DID TO WIN?

    when you can answer that question let me know

    best regards

  177. I still think that Kensil ran this whole thing without letting Goodell know; due to fear that Goodell would mention it to Mr. Kraft.

    Look at the OVERWHELMING number of NFL officers that were at the AFCCG.

    Dean Blandino: VP of Officiating
    Akil Coad: Director of Football Operations and Compliance
    James Daniel: Director of Game Operations
    T. David Gardi: SVP of Football Operations
    Mike Kensil: Vice President of Football Operations
    John Raucci: Director of Investigative Services
    Alberto Riveron: Senior Director of Officiating
    Troy Vincent: Executive VP of Football Operations

    Of particular note are Akil Coad and John Raucci, the directors of Compliance and Investigative Services, respectively.

    Frankly, how does it make Goodell look if a “sting operation” was happening and he didn’t know of it? He would be fired along with all the rest, so what is his best move.. to go along with the set-up and “double down” on his position.

    Hopefully, the NFL offices and officers are exposed to “sunshine” during the legal process and the emails of all owners and general managers, to the NFL, regarding this scandal are made public.

  178. Had he just said he likes the balls on the low side, nothing probably ever would have been said or done about it.
    ===========================

    he did say it, it doesn’t matter to anyone, they see him as a cheater, ans the patriots as cheaters, and use that to expalin their own teams misfortunes.

    listen to the woeful Seahawks fan who want themselves to be declared the SB winner, never mind they gave up a two TD lead in the 4th Quarter and threw an INT to end the game.

    listen to the Ravens, they used a trick play, never mind the patriots overcame a two TD deficit, and throw it up Joe threw an INT

    whatever you do, don’t listen to the Bill, Jets or Dolphins fans, they are simply just losers.

  179. ivanm711 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 12:11 PM
    Mr. Kraft look at your investment in the NFL. If Brady is exonerated I see the NFL as a cheating organization, and I will not watch the NFL anymore. Why should any other team’s fan watch when they think the Superbowl winner has already been determined before the season. Brady cheating has undermined the integrity of the game. I thought he might be innocent, but destroying the phone on the day you are to meet with Wells screams “Guilty”. Or at the very least it screams he feels he is above the law and rules. Disgusting Mr. Kraft.

    __________________________________________

    You’re opinion of sports is a bit skewed. Cheating is and has been a part of sports for a long time. That’s not to condone it, its terrible and unfortunate, but unless you’re not paying attention cheating happens a lot. Teams and players are fined or suspended a lot. I would want my sports organization to enforce rules in a judicious and fair manner. That’s all Kraft is saying here.

    If you’ve been paying attention to the investigation, the NFL did not bother to enforce this rule on game day. Now it appears that procedural changes will test game balls to catch cheaters. But it is ridiculous to argue that the NFL is protecting game “integrity” by grabbing cell phone records off their employees to retroactively enforce game-day equipment rules.

  180. mjdkid100 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:59 AM

    What planet do you live on that Greg Hardy’s case is equal to Brady’s.
    _______________________________

    Earth. For one thing, Brady’s initial offense was against the game of football and directly under NFL purview–Hardy’s (despicable) situation is a legal issue that was handled or mishandled according to individual interpretation by the criminal justice system. The NFL only layers on league discipline on legal matters to try to hold players to higher standards and project a good image. But no cops are going to arrest and no courts punish Brady for anything he did. The only mechanism to address such acts the NFL’s opaque and highly variable punishment system.

    Now as to the cover-up, Hardy (we all strongly suspect) paid his accuser to go away and not show up for court and therefore he was able to “cleanly” escape punishment by a court of law.

    Brady destroyed evidence in an attempt to do the same. In some ways, it is incredibly similar, the cover-up at least.

    So on what planet are they comparable (in an NFL sense, not a legal, moral, criminal sense)? On Earth. It’s where most of us live; you should try it sometime.

  181. His honesty to help others understand what he is thinking and feeling from his perspective is refreshingly candid and clear. I agree that there were mutually beneficial options all parties could have come to terms with at an earlier point in the process. There are a lot of lawyers and others that have been and will continue to be paid big money that could have been saved.

  182. If they are deflating why would they have to tell Cassell about it???? if they hand a pitcher a hat with pine tar and call it something else he doesnt need to know. The club only cares about the production. And Cassell won 11 games that yr as the Patriots starter, while on the bills he wont start and may not even make the final roster. So, maybe he had an advantage in NE?????? or the team is just that good that even a crappy QB can win 11 games there and Tom just isnt as good as we think. He just thrives in an offense built on screen passes and 7 yd slants.

    Hey, if 7 yard slants and screen passes are so easy, why aren’t the Bills doing it? They sure could use some wins in Buffalo.

    Seems like everyone could do it, huh? Wonder why they don’t. smh

  183. Kraft “I was wrong to put my faith in the league. ”

    Join the legions of fans that did the same when the league destroyed all evidence related to spygate.. a decision that benefited your club.

    Couldn’t Goodell in turn say he was wrong to put faith in your franchise to play within the rules of the game after turning a favorable decision?

  184. guadalahonky says:

    Robert Kraft told everyone in the Patriot organization to cooperate fully with the investigators.

    As it turns out, Brady did not,
    ==============================

    you see how you are made to believe this is true.

    read the NFL releases, or the ESPN reports, such as

    11 balls under 2 psig
    Brady Destroyed his phone
    Brady did not cooperate

    but then there are these small things called foot notes that for some reason contradict these headlines.

    In court there is this thing called cross examination, surprising at at may sound, after the plaintiff or prosecutor has their turn, the defense gets their turn.

    then the jury or judge rules.

    defamation with malice.

    watch for it.

  185. pack93z says:

    Couldn’t Goodell in turn say he was wrong to put faith in your franchise to play within the rules of the game after turning a favorable decision?
    =============================

    he could and he did, he just never proved it.

    upholding the suspension was based on Brady “destroying” his phone. Even though he provide a list of 10,000 texts.

    The NFL never wanted his phone, remember that?

    Witchunt

    Kensil is the guy’s phone that will make history

  186. His statement logically contradicted itself over and over. You’re mad because his appeal wasn’t reduced and other people have had theirs? If he was really innocent, why would you look for it to be reduced, and not completely wiped out? If you did nothing wrong, why were those accused of ‘doing nothing wrong’ suspended/basically fired? Why would you take the bullet for your friend/employee for your friend if you know he did nothing wrong (there’s nothing to get caught doing)? If you think that the tactic of going to court is something ‘only lawyers do,’ why was your employee threatening to do just that for months? Why didn’t the organization offer up the suspended-for-nothing employee back up when asked? Why didn’t Brady bother to show up when asked, yet you claimed cooperation? Would you claim the your kids were cooperating with you if they destroyed their phones and told you to go track down their friends if you wanted to see what was on it?

    Literally none of what the Pats did or how they’ve acted since they got caught cheating yet again has made it look even remotely like they were innocent. Innocent people don’t repeatedly hide things or make it difficult to find the truth. This is the owner of an organization that’s been caught cheating multiple times crying. Brady is a liar. Kraft is a liar. And they cheat.

  187. somethinghappeninghere says:

    I don’t give a crap, Kraft, about what you say about DeflateGate. But I DO GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE POISONS YOU PUT IN YOUR FOODS FOR PROFIT, MR. GMO!
    ======================================

    wow, the stupidity is incredible, different Kraft, moron.

  188. Brady and Kraft act just like my 5 year old when I catch him doing something wrong. Don’t worry though, son, you’re much better than these classless cheaters.

  189. If you are the other owners, or Goodell for that matter, you have to be hoping that the courts bail you out of this mess by issuing an injunction. That prevents an immediate confrontation at a league level about Goodell’s future.

    Make no mistake, though – Goodell is now on borrowed time. Kraft will spend a great deal of time, energy and influence trying to get him canned, and eventually enough owners will agree that Goodell has become a liability. My bet is that he walks the plank shortly after the Super Bowl.

  190. pack93z says:

    … the league destroyed all evidence related to spygate.. a decision that benefited your club.

    Oh yeah, that was a big help, for sure (rolleyes).

    The Patriots absolutely did not want those tapes destroyed.

    The tapes were shown on TV. They show a minor violation. Goodell stupidly destroying the tapes inspires conspiracy nuts like you even 8 years later to make it into some scandal to top all scandals.

  191. “I will never understand why an initial erroneous report regarding the PSI level of footballs was leaked by a source from the NFL a few days after the AFC championship game”
    —————

    It’s probably because this isn’t the first time Brady deflated footballs to gain an advantage. It’s not even the first time that the Patriots cheated to gain an advantage.

  192. Kraft, what arrogance. When players and owners think they are bigger than the game, they don’t belong. Sorry, in the real world you rarely have pictures of someone actually committing an offense. But when someone deliberately destroys evidence when he knows it can exonerate him or prove his guilt….. well, any reasonable person would assume a prima facie guilt. Brady should have known that the destruction of the phone would undermine an appeal or leniency. Live with it.

  193. letsgobuffalo4 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 12:34 PM
    patriotinvasion says:
    Jul 29, 2015 12:20 PM

    if .4 PSI doesnt affect anything they why cheat and risk your legacy to get that extra .4 PSI? No one cheats if its not worth it to them. Thats like saying Barry Bonds would have had the same production without roids. Ummm then why did he do them? And some were .4 under, some were as much as a full 2 PSI under. Pats fans love to use the “.4″ number like thats the only one, there were other balls more deflated. The patriots fumble ratio this yr and Brady’s QBR in cold weather, outdoor games will show us how much this helped (and yes i know what he did in the SB, that was not a cold weather, outdoor game where deflated balls help the most).
    ——————–
    Of course .4 psi doesn’t matter. The pressure in the balls has already proven to fluctuate well above and below .4 during the course of a half of a game. This was explained during 6th grade science class. Apparently curriculum is lagging outside of New England.

  194. Hey Stephen A, we get it that your source Troy Vincent gave you the headline to use. Congratulations.
    Probably the same guy who gave Mort the 10.5 psi numbers.
    A half truth plus a lie does not equal “integrity”.

  195. I wish Kraft and Brady success in their legal action against the league. The NFL is a joke and many in the media are as well.

    They have turned something simple into a non-stop circus. Integrity of the league is the excuse Goodell has used. I find this hilarious considering the name given to the league on the net is National Felons League, which I think most people know why. This is more about Goodell’s ego.

    Then there’s the media who has made sure that this story remain in the headlines by journalist windbags filled with hot air often writing nonsense or personal opinion stories that seem to promote their own self-worth.

  196. Yet for reasons that I cannot comprehend, there are those in the league office who are more determined to prove that they were right rather than admit any culpability of their own or take any responsibility for the initiation of a process and ensuing investigation that was flawed.
    =============

    LOL

    Where do you start?

    “admit culpability”?
    “take responsibility”?

    Seriously?

    The most documented serial cheating team in the last 15 years is lecturing about responsibility?

    I guess we shouldn’t be surprised. Even while they cheated they told the Ravens to learn the rule book.

    They should take the franchise away from this drunk.

  197. Make no mistake, though – Goodell is now on borrowed time. Kraft will spend a great deal of time, energy and influence trying to get him canned, and eventually enough owners will agree that Goodell has become a liability. My bet is that he walks the plank shortly after the Super Bowl.
    ===================

    Uhhh wrong.

    You don’t think this is hurting Kraft’s standing with other owners?

    You don’t think other billionaires are getting tired of being fleeced?

    Kraft’s stature is on borrowed time.

  198. dprouse says:
    Jul 29, 2015 1:06 PM
    If you are the other owners, or Goodell for that matter, you have to be hoping that the courts bail you out of this mess by issuing an injunction. That prevents an immediate confrontation at a league level about Goodell’s future.

    Make no mistake, though – Goodell is now on borrowed time. Kraft will spend a great deal of time, energy and influence trying to get him canned, and eventually enough owners will agree that Goodell has become a liability. My bet is that he walks the plank shortly after the Super Bowl.

    ———————–

    Pats fans really are delusional. According to you, Goodell and the owners are already regretting Goodell upholding the appeal that is less than 24 hours old?

    According to Pats fans, Brady should’ve been exonerated 4 or 5x now and awarded the Ravens and Colts franchises as compensation in a defamation of character lawsuit.

    You really think that Goodell did this without knowing that the majority of owners had his back?

  199. somethinghappeninghere says:
    Jul 29, 2015 12:38 PM

    I don’t give a crap, Kraft, about what you say about DeflateGate. But I DO GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE POISONS YOU PUT IN YOUR FOODS FOR PROFIT, MR. GMO!

    ++++++++++

    Wrong Kraft, derp.

  200. Cheaters never win. Oh wait, they do win. They won the superbowl. Let that be a lesson kids. If you don’t like the rules just cheat until you get away with it. The worst that could happen is fame and success. Enjoy this example set by adults.

  201. Just when I thought I could not hate the entire Pats organization any more.

    So pathetic. They truly believe that rules don’t apply to them.

    It’s time to force Kraft to sell, ala Sterling.

  202. So many people on here THINK they are thinking, but few actually are.

    So many people are SURE that something nefarious happened, but not one person has shown one shred of evidence.

    It’s all their ‘belief’ based on complete bull. They believe Brady did something. They can’t point to anything that actually shows this, they just ‘believe’.

    Critical thinking is in short supply in America, and the comments and up/down votes showcase this.

    They haven’t even come close to proving that anything happened with the footballs.

    They haven’t even come close to proving that the employees had any intention of doing anything with the footballs.

    They haven’t even come close to proving Brady knew, instructed, or hinted at anything.

    These are facts. The fact is, the NFL hasn’t proven anything happened, just like Brady hasn’t proven he didn’t. But the onus to prove wrongdoing in order to punish is on the NFL, and the Salem Witch Trials did a better case of providing ‘evidence’.

    Yet morons will be morons and claim otherwise.

    Kraft is right, this is ALL about Goodell, not Brady, not some infraction. It’s about Goodell not being seen as the incompetent commissioner he IS.

    Sadly there is a sucker born every minute, and those suckers BELIEVE they have PROOF that Brady did something.

    It’s a sad day in America when so many people are so clueless. No wonder our country is collapsing. Huge swaths of our nations are incapable of thinking, yet they BELIEVE they are.

    I hope Kraft does reverse his decision and go after the NFL, they are the ones committing wrongdoing.

    I hope Brady mops the floor with the NFL for their blatant lies and overreaching.

    …and no I’m not a Brady fan, nor a Patriots fan, or even an AFC team fan. It’s about right versus wrong, and the NFL is SOOOOOOO in the wrong.

    In the end, Goodell MUST lose his job. He makes more then any player in the league, yet all he does is screw up, and cover up his lies.

    It is funny when you think about it. Goodell is going after Brady for ‘covering up’ something they have no way in hell of proving, yet Goodell is the one who is ACTUALLY engaged in a coverup… of his and his office’s complete incompetence. Goodell is throwing Brady, the Patriots, and THE NFL itself under the bus to save his own skin. For shame.

  203. You know Michael Jordan gambled on NBA games during his career, and nobody really cares. I don’t understand why the pats and brady don’t just serve the small suspsension and let people slowly forget this ever happened. time heals all wounds.

  204. The louder and more strident Brady and Kraft sound the guiltier they look.

    If Kraft really wants to go all Al Davis on the NFL he might consider starting up a new football league. This one also might have more flexible rules so cheating wont really be cheating. That should work for them.

  205. Piss off one powerful owner or appease the other 30+ owners? Seems like the line has been drawn in the sand. Goodell has that going for him at least…I’d say 99% of other owners probably hate the Pats and that’s why he was able to do what he did. My opinion on the matter is, if you played football at any level, you probably broke some rules in the field of play. What Brady did was wrong and attacked the integrity of the game BUT it did not create an unfair advantage/disadvantage that influenced the outcome of the Colts game. Spying on practices will do that but if you can’t get to a QB like him he’s going to light you up regardless of how heavy the football is.

  206. ” … because I truly believe what I did in May, given the actual evidence of the situation and the league’s history on discipline matters, would make it much easier for the league to exonerate Tom Brady.”

    In other words: “I didn’t mean what I said back in May. I was just trying to get Tom Brady cleared.” League man all the way, right, Robert?

    Kraft is pathetic, and his franchise and its culture of cheating are pathetic. He’s just a mad little baby that the cheating he’s enabled for at least 10 years (and maybe longer) finally resulted in real punishment.

  207. there are hundreds of ex patriots either retired, cut or still in the NFL playing for other teams.

    Why are they so silent on ALL THE CHEATING THE PATRIOTS DID TO WIN?

    when you can answer that question let me know

    best regards

  208. As a Pats fan I accept Mr. Kraft’s apology to me and all Pats fans for fumbling his response to Goodell et al badly back in May, and I look forward to Mr. Kraft, Mr. Belichick, Mr. Brady, and the entire Pats organization and fan base accepting the Lombardi Trophy from the new NFL Commissioner, Rodney Harrison :-), at Levi Stadium after winning SB 50 in February 2016!

  209. I hope this is the first step in the ouster of Goodell and his shenanigans. Kraft is now aware of the crap he pulls as the CBA did give him that power but its about time to reign him in. He’s an idiot undeserving of the position, time to move on from his idiocy.

  210. I have been critical of Kraft all along for trying to placate the other 31 “partners” and selling out to this “shield”. So many of us Patriots fans lost a lot of respect for Robert Kraft. He’s too late to the party. You blew it Robert and you sold out Tom Brady. Nobody will forget that.

  211. The goal of Goodell is Parity Without Brady. The league wants to take Patriots out of contention for another winning run to placate the other 31 teams. Punish excellence so the mediocre will rise. It’s a disgrace and un-American. How did our ideals sink this low? Kraft is utterly wrong for ceding justice to appease. Now he sees the light. He and the other owners created a tyrant. The malice against the Patriots is unparalleled. I’m glad Goodell did this so he and his minions will be exposed. Destroyed the phone? That’s a fine hook for the ignorant. Brady already co- operated with them and endured hours of testimony under oath. Integrity of the game is not the reason for the sting operation and the upholding of the penalty is never intended for justice. All this is orchestrated to take down Brady and the Patriots. Now this will go to court and I hope Brady separately sues ESPN and the NFL for defamation. Justice for Brady!

  212. Kraft admitted that he is sad because he lost the negotiation and expected a quid pro quo.

    I’m wondeirng if he will take his (deflated) ball and go home?

  213. stealthjunk says:Jul 29, 2015 1:06 PM

    Brady and Kraft act just like my 5 year old when I catch him doing something wrong. Don’t worry though, son, you’re much better than these classless cheaters.
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    And you’re a lawyer too, right? Who’s the 5 yr old liar again?

  214. Hey Bob, if you don’t like the league you could always put a for sale sign on the Pats organization. I guarantee the league would carry on quite fine without your tears holding it together.

  215. Holy Crap!!

    So many comments I had to rest while scrolling down to the bottom of the page. This whole thing is very very SAD. Nobody likes being called a cheater, even if you are one. And all the evidence was circumstantial, but there was a crap ton of it! If you want to believe Brady’s innocent (only you Patriots fans could), you’ll figure out a way to justify it to yourselves. But to me, nobody destroys their cell phone on or about your appointment with a league investigator unless you’re scared and have something to hide. Don’t tell me that you always destroy your cell phones when you get a new one, when the last one (from Dec 2014) was still working. It’s almost comical. I don’t think Goodell had any choice but to uphold the suspension under the circumstances.

  216. Holy Crap!!

    So many comments I had to rest while scrolling down to the bottom of the page. This whole thing is very very SAD. Nobody likes being called a cheater, even if you are one. And all the evidence was circumstantial, but there was a crap ton of it! If you want to believe Brady’s innocent (only you Patriots fans could), you’ll figure out a way to justify it to yourselves. But to me, nobody destroys their cell phone on or about your appointment with a league investigator unless you’re scared and have something to hide. Don’t tell me that you always destroy your cell phones when you get a new one, when the last one (from Dec 2014) was still working. It’s almost comical. I don’t think Goodell had any choice but to uphold the suspension under the circumstances.

  217. WoW, bottom line is nobody outside the patriots organization or fans believes a word Tom is saying, LIAR

  218. dsigrey says:
    Jul 29, 2015 11:01 AM

    joecoz17 says:
    Jul 29, 2015 10:46 AM
    if Brady and the Pats are so innocent why did they fire the ball boys immediately?

    _______________________

    Jesus we just end this comment once and for all??? Band it from the comment section completely.

    They were suspended at the request of the NFL, not the Patriots. Get your fact sheeple.
    ___________________________

    But if they were innocent then it doesn’t matter what the NFL requested. Kraft should have fought them on that as well. The bottom line is you fight to prove your innocence and Kraft showed no fight. Now Brady is trying to fight but he just a toolbag and will lose

  219. Goodell did it! He appeased the crybabies by going after the team they can’t beat on the field. His job is safe a gain because he is now the hero of all the crybabies. Did you see the big ass rings they got for winning the Super Bowl with properly inflated balls? How did they do that crygaters? Steelers team doctor for years was giving out steroids(busted by the feds in 2007). Broncos cheat the cap and put vaseline on their jerseys, Bucs QB altered balls and paid to get his into the Super Bowl, Colts (Polian used his power to cover it up) Pumped in crowd noise. ETC. Yes the league is made up of 31 totally honest and fair teams. Like 1 ex coach said about this mess, the other 31 teams better check to see that their house in order because everything from here on out is going to result in severe penalties. Don’t cry if a witch hunt surrounds your team because of this made up mess. All you have is a nickname. Great job NFL.

  220. I just lost a lot of respect for Robert Kraft. Tom Brady is a great NFL quarterback but his ethics are highly questionable. Bill Belicheck is an excellent coach and motivator (and I love how he handles the media) but again, his ethics are highly questionable. The deflation issue becomes secondary now that there is proof that Brady knowingly and intentionally destroyed evidence immediately prior to said evidence being turned over to the league. That gives the appearance of extreme impropriety (i.e. What are you hiding?), and certainly calls into question whether Brady has even told the truth at any point in this entire affair. The suspension should be upheld on this issue alone, as Brady took the law into his own hands by destroying his cell phone and any evidence it contained. I would suggest Mr. Kraft provide better ethical guidance to his organization, as allegations of cheating keep arising from his organization. I would also suggest Mr. Kraft fix his own house before commenting on others. I would also treadly light if I were Mr. Kraft, and not piss off his fellow owners, who are probably sick of the continuing drama emanating from the Patriots.

    I’m neutral on Goodell. I believe he oversteps his bounds at times, and should keep out of most if not all discipline matters (this one case would be an exception), but I see no reason why the other owners would be motivated to replace him at this point in time.

    I have no respect for Patriots fans, and can’t wait for the day Brady and Belicheck retire so that organization and its fans can slink back to irrelevance again.

  221. Kraft needs to see it as it is Brady caused his problems not the league. I’m sure he has nothing to grip about when other teams are put on the hot seat and pay the penalty. He needs to take reasonability that Shady Brady played games with the NFL and their investigation and now he wants to cry foul.

  222. melikefootball says:
    Jul 29, 2015 4:44 PM
    Kraft needs to see it as it is Brady caused his problems not the league. I’m sure he has nothing to grip about when other teams are put on the hot seat and pay the penalty. He needs to take reasonability that Shady Brady played games with the NFL and their investigation and now he wants to cry foul.

    ____

    How did Brady “play games”? He answered all their questions. According to Mr. Kraft, Brady gave them a list of every number that was called from the destroyed phone. The Pats also provided the Wells team with all communications sent to their company devices and accounts, even those not part of the NFLPA. The Wells team asked Brady for anything relevent to the case. At the time, they had all the email from Jastremski and Mcnally whom were considered “persons of interest” by the investigators. Along with that, they had all other communications to Patriot employees. If the Wells team wanted more info from Brady, all they had to do was ask.

    “Ok, we cross checked all of the numbers you listed from your personal device. These numbers don’t match anything from the Pats, could you tell us who they are and if we could obtain records of those.”

    I suppose it is entirely possible that Wells said something like that and Brady’s lawyer declined. However, it has never been reported that such a request was made. Only the very ambiguous “give us anything relevant to this case”. How can I give you something, if I believe you already have said info and you will not tell me what else it is you are looking for?

  223. Im not a Pats fan, but after reading this I am now on the side of the Pats. Because I have a hate for Goodell and what he has made this league into. I hope Kraft and the rest of the league get Goodell to quit.

  224. People can say what they want about Goodell but the truth of the matter is the recent revenue sharing to all 32 teams was well over 220 million per team or over 7 billion in one year. That is primarily from TV. The league continues to grow even with the supposed saturation of games. Fans clamor for it and the league provides. Personally, I like Mr. Kraft however in this case he is wrong. Brady and his lawyers believed that since the investigation was not a criminal investigation it was okay to destroy your cell phone. Obviously the device could either exonerate or incriminate. The court of public opinion appears to weigh in on the latter. Americans are a forgiving people but they just don’t like individuals who continue to flavor their lie with arrogance.

  225. Let us hope that this does not lead to defamation lawsuit, if so the nfl will not survive. There are too many issues and lies in this whole situation that once the courts get into this then congress well you can see where this is leading. Folks you may be watching the implsion of our beloved nfl and with it professional football.

  226. What I find truly stunning about this is the seeming willingness many have to accept the style of this whole process.

    If this were North Korea or some banana republic, we’d all be wringing our hands in disgust at some mad dictator being judge jury and executioner.

    Here we have a situation where a distinguished player had had his reputation destroyed by an American ‘mad-dictator’.

    Goodell often goes on about ‘protecting integrity’ and ‘protecting the badge’; but with his actions, he has ruined the reputation of the NFL in the eyes of many.

    Way to go Rog…….

  227. Ear pressure in footballs? What is this blabbering old foolish koot stammering on about? Upset over the ruling that it wasn’t reduced? As if he didn’t know it was due to Brady’s non acceptance of anything offered other than full exoneration with all files sealed.

    Clown on a soap box is not fooling anyone other than Brady jock strap carrying chowda headed tin foil hatters club.

    Most others have lost faith in the league also witch-Kraft when it comes to stopping your team from cheating.

  228. I hope this deflategate story lives forever because once we have vetted this story in depth to the umpteenth degree, only will the entire truth come out. Isn’ t that what every football fan wants. Not all the blather…. just the facts ma’m, no conjecture.

    You see, here is the rub from most of Patriots nation. Nobody denies “Spygate” , that it happened. We paid the penalty….. Fact is we spied alone for one quarter of one game. Admitted.

    But I bet we didn’t spy alone for the previous years or the league wouldn’t have sent all 32 teams a letter in the spring of 2006 about new rules on filming. Fact is several teams were spying on other teams also. I’m surprised other fans aren’t curious about their teams and if they were spying. You know, Steeler fans, Cowboy fans….. all of you guys. Now when fans allude that we always cheated, even way back to our 2001 Super Bowl Championship years…. maybe we did…. and maybe you did also.

    Fact is , the NFL and Roger were able to sweep it all under the
    rug…. even to go so far as destroying evidence….. Sorry folks….. it isn’t going to happen with deflategate….

    And by the way….. notice how the sports world has never had the Deflator on any sports shows …… or quoted by all our sports writers. Sure baffles me how those two guys have dissapeared off the face of the earth.

  229. lennymoorerules says:
    Jul 29, 2015 7:31 PM
    “Obviously the device could either exonerate or incriminate. ”

    Umm, no. Not really. It might have more evidence on it than they already have, but considering they had the phones of all the principals already with relevant text histories it is doubtful.

    Let’s pretend Brady did tell JJ and JM to deflate balls verbally. None of his texts to them based on their phones mention it. But, he would then be so careless as to write texts to whomever about his ordering deflation? That becomes a fishing expedition.

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