John Mara on #DeflateGate: “I’m saddened it’s come to this”

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As his NFC East counterpart Jerry Jones did, Giants co-owner John Mara voiced his support for NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

But make no mistake, Mara is as tired of #DeflateGate as a lot of people are, saying: “I’m saddened it’s come to this.”

“We went the two weeks going into the Super Bowl that’s all we talked about, Deflategate and now coming into training camp that’s all we’re talking about,’’ Mara said, via Paul Schwartz of the New York Post. “Listen, the commissioner had a very difficult job to do here. But at the end of the day I think he made a decision based on the evidence and the facts that were before him and without regard to the profile of the player or his personal relationship with the owner.

“You know what? That’s what he’s paid to do and he did his job here. You can argue with whether it was fair or unfair but he had to make a very tough decision in very difficult circumstances and that’s what he’s paid to do.’’

Mara and Jones and Patriots owner Robert Kraft and their 29 partners combine to pay Goodell very handsomely to be their piñata in cases like this, to the tune of $81 million the last two years.

And despite his displeasure with the longevity of the story, Mara said Goodell was doing the best he could — and you can read into that what you choose.

“I support the commissioner in this,’’ Mara said. “I’ve been around him enough to know his intention is always to try to do the right thing. I don’t always agree with the decisions he makes, but I know he tries to do the right thing and I know this was a very unpleasant situation for him here. We’re dealing with the best player in the league and you’re dealing with an owner who’s been as good as any owner in the league and somebody he has a close personal relationship with. So he had to make a tough decision.’’

Of course, intentions and results aren’t always the same thing, as an entire offseason has been swallowed by a story that won’t go away.

95 responses to “John Mara on #DeflateGate: “I’m saddened it’s come to this”

  1. Just a thought, but could it be, 31 billionaires are perhaps upset that 1 billionaire(Kraft) has discovered the secret formula (Belichick/Brady) to negate parity in the NFL? When the salary cap was introduced back in the early 90’s every team was, in theory, supposed to get their fair share of play-off games, Conference Championships, and Super Bowl appearances . Hasn’t worked out that way, has it? Patriots have skewed the numbers big time. Now 31 billionaires are pissed and all more than willing to look beyond the cold hard facts, through Roger of course, and demand their pound of flesh. Doesn’t matter how leaky the boat is becoming. These 31 schmoes aren’t used to having their noses rubbed in it year after year

  2. “based on the evidence and the facts that were before him”

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    lol….

  3. Goodell’s idea of defending the shield is to burn it to keep it out of enemy hands. And his little stunt of sitting on his ruling so his lawyers could run to court first was too cute by half. If the consistent witness testimony and scientific measurements don’t ultimate exonerate Brady in the face of this biased witch hunt for 0.4 psi ball pressure that nobody ever tested in the prior 80 years of games, we all have bigger problems.

  4. If Brady was a Jet does anyone and I mean ANYONE honestly believe Kensil and Goodell along with all the other ex-Jets and Jets fans in the front office would make this big a deal out of it? Cmon……..it’s like MSNBC going after a Democrat in office or FOX NEWS going after a republican in office……..they only go after the opposite side and in this case the Pats are the Jets’ #1 enemy. The fix was in folks.

  5. That salary going to someone else really, really irks MF, who wants a piece of it.

  6. That’s great John. So, join Robert and get rid of the reason the NFL is untrustworthy and anti-player (and now anti-owner).

  7. Yet we wouldn’t be talking about this if Brady simply said “Gosh, I didn’t know this wasn’t allowed, i’m sorry. I like the footballs a certain way maybe I went too far. Lesson learned”.

    Boom, there’s your $25k fine and everyone moves on, no big deal.

    All of the lies about some fat ballboy being nicknamed “deflator” and destroying a cellphone so he can upgrade is just awful. Its sad a father and role model to so many can’t just do the right thing here and send a positive message.

  8. Just a thought, but could it be, 31 billionaires are perhaps upset that 1 billionaire(Kraft) has discovered the secret formula (Belichick/Brady) to negate parity in the NFL?
    ————–

    It would be sad that institutional cheating was hailed as the “secret formula” for success.

    It’s a bad lesson for impressionable youngsters who can dispute the notion by pointing to the Patriots that “Cheaters never win”.

  9. I’m saddened Mara has chosen to back evil. I’ve held a lot of respect for the Giants despite the obvious rivalries with my team. It just went down some.

  10. I agree with Mara. If the commissioner cannot do what he sees fit for the integrity of the game, why have a commissioner in the first place? Just let it be lawyer free-for-all.

  11. Stop being distracted by the Ideal Gas Law and other red herrings.

    If Brady’s phone had truly demonstrated his professed innocence, which it should have if Brady was being honest about all this — that phone would have preserved his own legacy and that of the Patriots “Dynasty” (plus avoided all this mess).

    If that phone had nothing on it, like Brady insisted to us all, then Brady should have been sprinting to the front of the line to turn it in immediately — but Brady did the opposite, and ordered that one specific phone be destroyed by his assistant just the day before it was requested at the investigation.

    Brady’s excuse that he destroys all his phones after 4 months of use — is about as ridiculously implausible as someone who refers to himself as “The Deflator” because they are trying to lose a couple of pounds (all while the running topic in context was specifically about football prep and Tom Brady’s preferences).

    Brady also knew he was cheating because he tried to conceal the activities when he was doing it, denied he was doing them when called out on it, contacted ball boy caliber employees repeatedly when the issue was raised and refused to produce the phone and then had only that one particular phone intentionally destroyed.

    Is Brady a first ballot Hall of Famer? Absolutely (imo), despite the unsettling stains on his character that come when one cheats, lies, conceals and destroys the one bit of key evidence right as the moment of truth is upon his own Appeal, the one Brady insisted on.

    Did Brady commit a capital murder-caliber crime? Heck no.

    But about the question, did Brady cheat, know he was cheating when he was doing it – and then lie about it REPEATEDLY?

    Quite obviously, and cheating, lying about it, trying to conceal the truth go straight to the game’s integrity – and the liar/cheater must be held accountable.

  12. You know what, Mr. Mara? I’m disappointed too. I’m disappointed in this farce of a sting operation. Is anybody here going to report on how Chris Mortensen abruptly backed out of his interview on Boston sports radio this morning where he was saying he was going to address why he hasn’t taken down his tweet with the incorrect reports of 11 of 12 of the Patriots’ balls being deflated, the report that has whipped the public into a frenzy and heavily biased public opinion? We did learn that it was in fact Mike Kensil that supplied the false information. Mike Kensil, a league office big shot, and former president of the Jets, the one who was there when Belichick resigned after one day and then proceeded to beat the brakes off his team for the next decade and a half, or however much of that time he was there. I wonder if he might have an ax to grind? Nahhhh, I’m just a “delusional” Patriots fan…

  13. Gee, it’s almost as if any talk of Goodell getting fired is nothing more than the ravings of delusional Patriot fans.

    I suppose Mara is just insanely jealous of the two Lombardis he got at their expense…..

  14. taiterhead says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:10 PM
    Just a thought, but could it be, 31 billionaires are perhaps upset that 1 billionaire(Kraft) has discovered the secret formula (Belichick/Brady) to negate parity in the NFL? When the salary cap was introduced back in the early 90’s every team was, in theory, supposed to get their fair share of play-off games, Conference Championships, and Super Bowl appearances . Hasn’t worked out that way, has it? Patriots have skewed the numbers big time. Now 31 billionaires are pissed and all more than willing to look beyond the cold hard facts…
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    Oh PLEASE. The “cold hard facts” are that the Patriots came within a nose hair of losing their third Super Bowl in a row, and their QB being talked about a LOT differently than the “greatest ever” like his fans claim. You call that “domination”?

    Spare us the chest-beating self-congratulatory “we’re so dominant we’re threatening parity so they’re coming down on us” tinfoil-hat theory to explain away the possibility that maybe the league DOES have a case.

    As for the Patriots “secret” formula it’s simple: play in a laughably weak division, rack up enough nearly guaranteed wins to secure prime playoff position and go from there.

  15. The facts show clearly that Brady was involved with not the author of a scheme to circumvent the rules to gain a competitive advantage.

    In other words, Brady is a cheater. Why is it so hard for Deflatriots fans to just accept that objective reality.

  16. .
    When will one of the 31 stooges stand up and say,

    ” This is a lose – lose situation. Even if they uphold the suspension and Brady sits the four games , all we’ve done is temporarily appease the anti Patriots crowd. They’ll be past this once the suspension ends.”

    ” Meanwhile, the stench of the sham investigation will hang over the league for decades. Every future discipline case will be viewed through the Brady prism, and there’s enough independent journalists out there waiting to pounce. Why would we do something that’s guaranteed to hurt us all? To assuage Roger Goodell’s ego? Gentlemen, we’ve been had.
    .

  17. Bert Bell, Pete Rozelle and Paul Tagliabue all managed to do the same “very difficult job” with far less drama and tilting at windmills than Roger Goodell, whose handling of DeflateGate has been conducted with the determination of Barney Fife and the efficiency of Inpector Clouseau…

  18. In other words, Brady is a cheater. Why is it so hard for Deflatriots fans to just accept that objective reality.
    ===
    The facts disagree with that assessment.

  19. Add John Mara to the list of owners who are involved in what the Washington Post termed:

    “a very unseemly pattern of unethical behavior by the league office under Goodell’s leadership” given an NFL disciplinary process which “lacks integrity and fairness.”

    Brady did exactly what the NFL said – “We don’t need your cellphone” (not that they have a right to it under the CBA) – “just bring us the records”

    Brady brings them the records – and Goodell moves the goalposts, taking Brady’s honest disclosure that he upgraded his cellphone and wiped the old one clean (which everyone SHOULD do – especially those of you with $125 million and a Super Model wife)

    … and then twisted that into a “Brady Destorys Cellphone” – which was just as true as the lie Goodell and Kensil had Mortensen report that “11 of 12 footballs are 2lbs under”

    Expect more news outlets than the Washington Post – which broke Watergate – to follow the trail of breadLOAVES that show that the Commissioner who claims to be opposed to Corruption – is HIMSELF CORRUPT

    … and John Mara has now involved HIMSELF in this scandal too

    These are sad times for the NFL

  20. “And his little stunt of sitting on his ruling so his lawyers could run to court first was too cute by half. ”

    You mean, beating the union at their own game? Yeah, it was pretty funny. Looks like Kessler needs to learn the rulebook!

  21. He’s not “saddened”, he’s happy as a pig in manure. These owners would sell their mother to screw each other and stay at the top – and especially to take a leading team down.

    What’s seriously funny is this comment by Mara: “We went the two weeks going into the Super Bowl that’s all we talked about, Deflategate and now coming into training camp that’s all we’re talking about.’’

    John, ask your toadie Commish and his Clown Car front office on Park Ave why THEY let is come to this with a manufactured hit job, rife with leaked and false information, sleazy science and “gotcha” accusations, which are developed with the aim of trying to make the crap Furher Goodell put together with chewing gum and stickum look good. That’s what you should really be commenting on.

  22. Gee, it’s almost as if any talk of Goodell getting fired is nothing more than the ravings of delusional Patriot fans.
    ===
    Just wait until the league loses a massive defamation case because of lack of institutional control. Will they stand by him then?

  23. He can blame Roger. He allowed this thing to spiral out of control. From the initial leak of false information, to taking 5 weeks to rule on the Brady appeal. You never saw things like this happen when Paul was in office.

  24. paulieorkid says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:25 PM

    Stop being distracted by the Ideal Gas Law and other red herrings.

    If Brady’s phone had truly demonstrated his professed innocence, which it should have if Brady was being honest about all this — that phone would have preserved his own legacy and that of the Patriots “Dynasty” (plus avoided all this mess).

    If that phone had nothing on it, like Brady insisted to us all, then Brady should have been sprinting to the front of the line to turn it in immediately — but Brady did the opposite, and ordered that one specific phone be destroyed by his assistant just the day before it was requested at the investigation.

    ___________________________________

    Pot, meet kettle, Mr. “Red Herring”. The PHONE! It’s already proven the phone had nothing on it – Brady supplied the NFL with all of the messages and calls on said phone and even combed through to tell them who the people were who would have been relevant to the investigation (ie NFL employees, players, Patriots staffers, etc.) and the NFL chose to do nothing with it (because had they followed up, they couldn’t have used Brady destroying the phone as proof of guilt). You are a complete buffoon if you would take your phone and just say “here ya go” to somebody investigating you, even if you knew you were 100% innocent. What do you think is on that phone, a photo of Tom Brady with a needle stuck in a ball giving the thumbs up sign? Yeah, he should turn over his phone which would offer “proof of innocence” to an entity who had previously leaked personal information from the 2 Pats employees whose phones were confiscated. Give me a break.

  25. paulieorkid says:

    =====================

    Do us a favor – ask yourself a few honest questions:

    Why did the NFL tell Brady they didn’t want or need his cellphone, only the records, which Brady provided – and then change their mind in the middle of his appeal hearing?

    Why did Ted Wells say “Brady cooperated fully”?

    Why WOULDN’T a man, married to a Super Model, who has a net worth of $125 million and a cellphone that – like everyone’s – had a literal wealth of personal and financial information – wipe the memory clean when upgrading to an iPhone 6 which was released days before?

    And WHY would Brady voluntarily TELL Goodell that he upgraded to a new cellphone, and wiped the old one that the NFL previously said they didn’t want or need?

    I’m embarrassed to call myself an NFL fan when I see how mindless, ignorant, jealous and gullible the vast majority of my fellow fans have become

    Do a little research – there’s ample answers to all your other assertions which might as well have come verbatim from what the Washington Post terms an “unethical” NFL League office that “lacks integrity”

  26. “You can argue with whether it was fair or unfair ….”

    And there you have it. Another owner doesnt’ care that the Commissioner is using his powers to take out Brady and could give a crap whether he has grounds to do it.

  27. seahawkboymike says: The facts show clearly that Brady was involved with not the author of a scheme to circumvent the rules to gain a competitive advantage.
    ==========================

    Even Ted Wells is scratching and shaking his head on this one…

    He said that Brady may have been “generally aware” of something that “might” have happened

    If you have information that neither Ted Wells nor anyone else has you should give us more details

  28. The commisioner is a meglo-maniacal control freak. He did make evreyone forget about Rice and Peterson, though.

    The weight of a dollar bill is equivelent to 2 PSI which is 1 gram. A football filled to 12.5-13.5 PSI weighs 14-15 ounces (or aprx. 400-430 grams).

    So if you put a ball on a scale 400 grams is OK, but 399 grams will cost you a $5 million dollar investigation, $1 million bucks in fines, a first and a 4th, being forced to terminate longtime employees and have your superstar QB being suspended for a 1/4 of a season and become the main narritave of your sport for closing in on a year for something that has never been an issue in 80 years.

    Sending a warning memo if you had a suspicion before a championship game is nowhere near enough. The reaction by the League FO sounds much more resonable, right?

  29. As a Giant fan and generally anti Pat fan (Belichick would be ours if George Young wasn’t a shoe) because I truly dislike Brady’s smugness and arrogance, I am sick to death of this and think he got a raw deal. So he took some air out or didn’t, it doesn’t change how good he is or how good the Pats organization has been since Parcells left. Let the dude play, he didn’t hit anyone with a belt or beat a kid with a switch, drive 143mph, blow his fingers off, punch his wife, choke a gf, get busted with weed and guns and cash and he’s sitting 4 games??? Junior Gallette is free to sign, Greg Hardys punishment was reduced and Adrian Peterson whined himself into more $ after flogging his kid…and Tom Brady is what’s wrong with the NFL? This is why I watch less and care less about this league, it caters to criminals and punishes abjectly for things that really aren’t a big deal. Hit a woman? No problem. Deflate a ball, you become a pariah.

  30. seahawkboymike says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:30 PM

    The facts show clearly that Brady was involved with not the author of a scheme to circumvent the rules to gain a competitive advantage.

    In other words, Brady is a cheater. Why is it so hard for Deflatriots fans to just accept that objective reality.
    —————————-

    Way to make sense there, wordsmith.

  31. Count this as the last time I will post a comment on this subject. It’s the same ole stupid posts. Goodwill is evil and Tom Brady is innocent of everything. Posts stating the obvious are attacked by the Pats fan base who apparently are all insiders of what really happened. Didn’t realize so many Pats fans were scientists and legal experts. I didn’t realize everyone else, including myself, are idiots. Have fun over the next 2 months folks. Maybe see on more relevant posts talking about footballs that are between 12.5-13.5 psi. Be well.

  32. .
    For those of you who hate Bob Kraft and wish nothing but ill will towards him, you’re winning on a daily basis. As much as Kraft decries the fine, suspension and loss of draft choices, to have his closest friends all turn on him simultaneously is hitting him where it counts.

    He’s never heard the phrase “if you sleep with dogs, you’re going to get fleas”
    .

  33. Patriots fans truly are the best. I especially love the Jesse Ventura conspiracy theories.

    “The only way to win, Theodore, is to cheat!”

  34. What was the tough decision, and what were the difficult circumstances?

    Here’s how it should have gone down.

    Roger: Walt, what was the pressure of the Patriots footballs at the start of the game?

    Walt:

    Roger: Sting over. Send a memo out to the teams reminding them to not tamper with the footballs.

  35. “You can argue with whether it was fair or unfair ….”

    And there you have it. Another owner doesnt’ care that the Commissioner is using his powers to take out Brady and could give a crap whether he has grounds to do it.

    +++++++

    Mara would only care if it was Eli Manning, Jerry Jones/Tony Romo, Paul Allen/Russell Wilson, Virginia Halas McCaskey/Jay Cutler, maybe not the last one, but are you seeing a pattern here? This some of the most cut-throat competition going. Yes they are partners in the sense that they share from the national revenue pool but they are direct competitors and spend hundreds of millions to win. The other 31 owner love to see Kraft and his organization twisting in the wind. The thing is these distractions have little to no effect on Patriots. Regardless if Brady’s suspension is vacated or upheld the Patriots will go deep in the playoffs, so the rest of you can s*** it!

  36. “Do us a favor – ask yourself a few honest questions:

    Why did the NFL tell Brady they didn’t want or need his cellphone, only the records, which Brady provided”

    Ask yourself this honest question: Did they ask for a contact list, or “relevant texts and emails”?

    It’s patently dishonest to say he gave them what they wanted.

  37. Wells never wanted Brady’s phone.

    Ergo, Brady (who recently broke his Samsung) said ok and got rid of his old one for a new iphone. not hard to understand.

  38. The NFL are hypocrites, look how much the Cowboys and Redskins were fined for going OVER the cap in an UNCAPPED year. Do I think they deflated the balls yes but they can’t make up the punishment as they go, there was already precedent and that was a $25 K fine. Ray Rice was suspended 2 games. Greg Hardy will be suspended as long as Tom Brady, there is something very wring with that.

  39. seahawkboymike says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:30 PM
    The facts show clearly that Brady was involved with not the author of a scheme to circumvent the rules to gain a competitive advantage.

    In other words, Brady is a cheater. Why is it so hard for Deflatriots fans to just accept that objective reality.

    ————–

    No Mike, you see those are your opinions….not facts. A fact is something absolute such as Brady scoring 2 4th quarter TDs against the Seahawks defense in last year’s SB. You see Mike, that is a fact….not an opinion. Moreover Mike, there is not even any factual evidence that any ball deflation took place beyond what is expected by nature. That again is an opinion Mike…..Ted Wells’ opinion. Other scientists’ opinions differ with Ted Wells’ opinion Mike. Moreover, there are no facts proving that Brady has ever ordered or asked anyone to prepare footballs at a pressure outside the legal limit. Once again, that is your opinion Mike.

    Here is my opinion Mike, you are having a hard time accepting the fact that Brady torched your team’s defense for over 320 yards in the SB. You are angry because you recognize that other teams will do the same this coming season. Is that true Mike?

  40. nsawins says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:14 PM
    If Brady was a Jet does anyone and I mean ANYONE honestly believe Kensil and Goodell along with all the other ex-Jets and Jets fans in the front office would make this big a deal out of it? Cmon……..it’s like MSNBC going after a Democrat in office or FOX NEWS going after a republican in office……..they only go after the opposite side and in this case the Pats are the Jets’ #1 enemy. The fix was in folks.
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    This one ranks right up there with the “they’re out to stop us and our domination” conspiracy tale. You realize this is the same Roger Goodell who took heat for being so soft on the Patriots in Spygate — even being accused of burning the evidence. Yes, Goodell has SO proven he’s had it in for the Patriots being a “product of the Jets” that he was notorious for going EASY on them last time around. Makes sense.

    You keep thinking this way — and making up stuff to deflect from the possibility the league has a case here.

  41. nsawins says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:14 PM
    If Brady was a Jet does anyone and I mean ANYONE honestly believe Kensil and Goodell along with all the other ex-Jets and Jets fans in the front office would make this big a deal out of it?
    ———————-

    Seriously? Yes, please suspend our QB! We won’t complain!

  42. Goodel has run a relentless smear job to try and hide his incompetence and distract from the dishonesty and sleaze that permeate the league office.

    Mara can take the high road but he knows Roger screwed up badly, regardless of how “difficult” that task was.

  43. taiterhead says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:10 PM

    Just a thought, but could it be, 31 billionaires are perhaps upset that 1 billionaire(Kraft) has discovered the secret formula (Belichick/Brady) to negate parity in the NFL? When the salary cap was introduced back in the early 90’s every team was, in theory, supposed to get their fair share of play-off games, Conference Championships, and Super Bowl appearances . Hasn’t worked out that way, has it? Patriots have skewed the numbers big time. Now 31 billionaires are pissed and all more than willing to look beyond the cold hard facts, through Roger of course, and demand their pound of flesh. Doesn’t matter how leaky the boat is becoming. These 31 schmoes aren’t used to having their noses rubbed in it year after year
    ****
    You left cheating off your diatribe (they always do and its the focus of the story) And switch out parity for a level fair playing field.

    Jones
    Ross
    Mara

    Will it get to 31?

  44. smasonsmith says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:35 PM

    Gee, it’s almost as if any talk of Goodell getting fired is nothing more than the ravings of delusional Patriot fans.
    ===
    Just wait until the league loses a massive defamation case because of lack of institutional control. Will they stand by him then?

    ——–

    I won’t be holding my breath…..

  45. If Roger Goodell asserts that Brady’s unwillingness to trash the CBA and hand over his personal cellphone is PROOF of his guilt

    Does that mean that Roger Goodell is admitting guilt into the Mueller Report into his handling of the Ray Rice incident?

    After all Goodell refused to hand over his personal cellphone that the Investigators wanted in that case

    The only difference in that case is that the Investigators actually WANTED Goodell’s personal cellphone

    In this case the NFL had previously told Brady they DID NOT WANT OR NEED his personal cellphone

    Goodell just moved the goalposts to fabricate a damaging headline when he needed to distract your attention from the fact that the Wells Report cannot withstand even the least bit of scrutiny

  46. NFL owners are circling the wagons. This is the ugly side of labor relations. Go back and read Jeremy Brecher’s book Strike! to see how ugly labor relations can get.

    I know the NFL players are a wealthy lot for “union” guys but they still work for a union that collectively bargains with management. Goodell is the owners boy and they will protect him at all costs.

    The owner’s lockout of the players was a power struggle and Bob Kraft was the key figure that ended that nightmare. Opposing players sang Kraft’s praises, in particular Jeff Saturday. Many of you might forget but many owners were none too happy with the settlement. They wanted to teach the players a lesson. Brady’s name was on the lawsuit for the NFLPA. Jeffrey Pash was the NFL’ s lead guy in the lockout and he was, along with Ted Wells, the lead in the “independent” investigation of Deflategate.

    Don’t think for a second that guys like Pash, Goodell, and the owners that didn’t support ending the lockout don’t have hard feelings towards both Brady and Kraft from 2011.

    Mara might be a more enlightened owner than most. He might be a true friend to Kraft. That said, he is still and owner and Goodell is working in Deflategate to change precedent and send a message to players who is boss, even if they have to sacrifice the greatest player who ever played the game.

  47. Reports are now out there that Mike Kensil leaked the now infamous report to ESPN two days after the AFC championship game which falsely stated that 11/12 Patriot footballs were at least 2 PSI under regulation and that ALL of the Colts balls were tested and at regulation. This report sealed the public narrative that the Patriots cheated.

    Mike Kensil is the same guy who was yelling at Patriots equipment personal at half time. Mike Kensil is a former NY Jets employee. He was personally involved in Bill Belichick’s volile spurning of the Jets to join the New England Patriots. Mike Kensil has a well documented distaste for Bill Belichick and the Patriots.

    NEVER in the history of the NFL has a player been suspended for not cooperating in an NFL investigation. NEVER in the history of the NFL has a player been suspended for an equipment violation.

    These are facts not opinions. How much longer can the national media and the fans of the NFL (outside of New England) ignore them?

  48. Reports are now out there that Mike Kensil leaked the now infamous report to ESPN two days after the AFC championship game which falsely stated that 11/12 Patriot footballs were at least 2 PSI under regulation and that ALL of the Colts balls were tested and at regulation. This report sealed the public narrative that the Patriots cheated.

    Mike Kensil is the same guy who was yelling at Patriots equipment personal at half time. Mike Kensil is a former NY Jets employee. He was personally involved in Bill Belichick’s volile spurning of the Jets to join the New England Patriots. Mike Kensil has a well documented distaste for Bill Belichick and the Patriots.

    NEVER in the history of the NFL has a player been suspended for not cooperating in an NFL investigation. NEVER in the history of the NFL has a player been suspended for an equipment violation.

    These are facts not opinions. How much longer can the national media and the fans of the NFL (outside of New England) ignore them?

    -and you know who is reporting this? John Dennis, the drunk that works for WEEI in Boston. One of the biggest Patriots shill out there.

  49. This could all have been avoiding doing the following:

    Ted Wells: Mr. Brady, as part of my investigacion, can you please, assisted by your lawyers and agent, provide me with relevant information (yes, just information, not the actual phone) from your phone pertaining this issue?

    Tom Brady: Yes, sure, I know that I did nothing wrong, I will get with my lawyer and agent and provide those transcripts for you.

    No need of gas law explanation or so much jiber jaber.

  50. Reports are now out there that Mike Kensil leaked the now infamous report to ESPN two days after the AFC championship game which falsely stated that 11/12 Patriot footballs were at least 2 PSI under regulation and that ALL of the Colts balls were tested and at regulation. This report sealed the public narrative that the Patriots cheated.
    —————————————————–
    This is irrelevant to the case, after that leak came the Wells report, and after that the destruction of the cell phone.

  51. Every year there is some controversy, or huge scandal that drags the NFL Shield through the mud. Bounty-gate, bully-gate, NFL Lockout/collusion-gate, domestic violence-gate, deflate-gate…

    But I guess the owners don’t care because its making them money.

    I dont watch football as religiously as I used to. People make a big deal about everything these days. Plus its all…. Pass pass pass. You cant hit receivers or QBs. Its just not the same sport anymore.

  52. cliffclavin2015 says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:52 PM

    Count this as the last time I will post a comment on this subject. It’s the same ole stupid posts. Goodwill is evil and Tom Brady is innocent of everything. Posts stating the obvious are attacked by the Pats fan base who apparently are all insiders of what really happened. Didn’t realize so many Pats fans were scientists and legal experts. I didn’t realize everyone else, including myself, are idiots. Have fun over the next 2 months folks. Maybe see on more relevant posts talking about footballs that are between 12.5-13.5 psi. Be well.
    ———————————-

    Thanks for being honest about the content of your posts.

    It’s hard when you find out you aren’t as great as you thought you were.

  53. “…based on the evidence and the facts that were before him”

    You obviously don’t need a degree in science or philosophy to own a football team”

  54. Brady destroying his phone the day of Wells’ meeting = Cheech swallowing a bag full of acid moments before cop pulled them over

    The only difference……Cheech sounded more innocent trying to explain it away!

  55. The owners do not like seeing Kraft’s statement included in the NFLPA’s motion. They need to look in the mirror. Why have the owners sat back while Goodell made this the story Mara laments, pouring gas on it. It took a federal judge one day to tell the parties to cool down the public statements. Why didn’t Goodell take that approach day one?

    This isn’t about Brady’s guilt. It is about the power of the owners and the commissioner’s office. No matter how bad Vincent screwed up, Goodell protected him and refused to cut a deal to put Deflategate to bed. No matter how bad Wells and Pash screwed up, Goodell had their back. No matter how bad Goodell screws up Jones and Mara have his back.

  56. Fine take away the Mike Kensil angle. It’s real but whatever.

    What about the fact that NO NFL PLAYER HAS NEVER BEEN SUSPENDED FOR AN EQUIPMENT VIOLATION?

    What about the fact that NO NFL PLAYER HAS EVER BEEN SUSPENDED FOR NONCOOPERATION WITH A LEAGUE INVESTIGATION.

  57. All I see is a rich guy telling US that we can quibble amongst ourselves on the merits and execution of The Emporer’s ‘tough’ decisions.

    And that’s exactly what we’re doing Mr. Mara… wake up – your constituents at large are displeased with your CEO for any combination of reasons.

  58. ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Jul 31, 2015 2:06 PM

    nsawins says:
    Jul 31, 2015 1:14 PM
    If Brady was a Jet does anyone and I mean ANYONE honestly believe Kensil and Goodell along with all the other ex-Jets and Jets fans in the front office would make this big a deal out of it? Cmon……..it’s like MSNBC going after a Democrat in office or FOX NEWS going after a republican in office……..they only go after the opposite side and in this case the Pats are the Jets’ #1 enemy. The fix was in folks.
    ——————————————————-

    This one ranks right up there with the “they’re out to stop us and our domination” conspiracy tale. You realize this is the same Roger Goodell who took heat for being so soft on the Patriots in Spygate — even being accused of burning the evidence. Yes, Goodell has SO proven he’s had it in for the Patriots being a “product of the Jets” that he was notorious for going EASY on them last time around. Makes sense.

    You keep thinking this way — and making up stuff to deflect from the possibility the league has a case here.
    ****
    Poster brings up Fox news. With all the spin I see some would fit right in there.

    I feel like making a list of it.
    Former Jets run NFL- witch hunt-kangaroo court- leaks-fake stories-bad test results-set up/sting-comparison of other punishment- everyone else cheats you should too-

    I know I am missing a lot and want to add to the list.

  59. “billionaire(Kraft) has discovered the secret formula (Belichick/Brady) to negate parity in the NFL? ”

    Throughout history, cheating has always been the best parity-buster.

  60. “Of course, intentions and results aren’t always the same thing, as an entire off season has been swallowed by a story that won’t go away”.

    It won’t go away because the MEDIA WON’T LET IT GO AWAY.

  61. I love the pats fans that are screaming they’re going to boycott the games if Brady doesn’t play…HAHAHAHAHA..please please do it..I’m pretty sure the NFL will survive with out you. #dolts

  62. An Open Letter to John Mara:

    We, as NFL fans ,were told that Ted Wells would conduct a thorough investigation – not just into the allegation of football deflation by the Patriots – but into the very relevant issues of frequent false and damaging leaks that numerous reporters have confirmed came from multiple NFL League Office Sources

    Despite this promise, such an investigation was never forthcoming as Ted Wells declined to address any issues related to the conduct of the League Office.

    Additionally, the so-called “Independent” investigation, authored by a man who ESPN reports has received $45 million from the NFL over the past 2 years, was edited by the NFL League Office before it was released to the public, calling into question the independence and credibility of the report which found that Tom Brady may have been generally aware of something that may have taken place.

    According to the Washington Post (which broke the Watergate scandal leading to the resignation of President Nixon,) the NFL is engaged in what it terms “a very unseemly pattern of unethical behavior by the league office under Goodell’s leadership” given an NFL disciplinary process which “lacks integrity and fairness.”

    Given this serious charge, as a prominent owner who claims to support integrity and fairness in the NFL, we, the fans of the NFL call on you to demand a TRULY independent investigation into the conduct of the NFL League Offices, including former Jets President Mike Kensil.

    If the NFL has nothing to hide, why not restore the integrity of the League by subjecting Roger Goodell and other members of the NFL League Offices to the same scrutiny they insist others comply with? This investigation should include the Roger Goodell and Mike Kensil’s voluntarily providing their personal cell phones for the scrutiny of a truly independent investigator.

    We await your response to this matter that is at the heart of the continuing popularity of the NFL.

    Indeed I believe all fans of the NFL can agree that if the NFL League Offices lack integrity, then the NFL itself lacks integrity, and this presents a major crisis of leadership.

    Please give this matter your immediate attention and public response.

    Signed, all the Fans of the NFL

  63. tajuara says:
    Jul 31, 2015 2:20 PM
    Reports are now out there that Mike Kensil leaked the now infamous report to ESPN
    —————————————————–
    This is irrelevant to the case, after that leak came the Wells report, and after that the destruction of the cell phone.

    ========
    The Kangaroo court felt TB and the rest of the NEPats were lying when they could not answer the very truthful statement by Kensil to Mortensen about the under flatbed balls. You can see they were not being truthful in answering why 11 out of 12 balls were 2psi under inflated. The fact that of the 4 Colts balls tested, they were also found to be just as under inflated as the 12 Pats balls, were not important to Framegate.

  64. Here’s my problem with this. It IS sad that it came to this. But had the commissioner done his job to begin with, it wouldn’t have. It now appears the league office had strong suspicions that the Patriots were deflating balls. So they were given a clear choice. They could go the route they went or they could have gone, you know, the correct route. Which would be sending a memo to all 32 teams reminding them of the rules on how game balls are to be treated and pulling the referees in for a refresher course seeing as a 5 minute discussion with the head of referees would have clued the league into the fact that with the million other things refs have to deal with on gameday that ball management isn’t usually one of them. Had the league done that there would be no deflategate, there would be no cloud forever hanging over a Super Bowl, there would be no tarnishing of a Hall of Fame quarterback, and the league would have saved millions of dollars in lawyer fees that they absolutely had to know was coming out of this nonsense. And if they didn’t know pulling a sting operation on an AFC Championship Game wasn’t going to eventually end up in a court room then all 32 owners need to fire everyone involved in this.

    So, in summation, the league could have taken a half hour to draft a memo to the 32 teams and come up with a typed up sheet to refresh the refs before the championship game OR the league can spend millions of dollars and tarnish the precious shield all in a crazed attempt to protect said shield. Why does Goodell still have a job again?

  65. John, seriously, what’s wrong with you? Goodell did not have to handle it this way at all. He could have conducted an investigation and managed the messaging without defaming Tom Brady unnecessarily. His leaks, his failure to correct the leaks, and the rhetoric out of his office suggests a malicious defamation campaign. You have only Goodell to blame for the scorched earth. The only way Tom could have prevented it was to cop to something he didn’t do.

  66. jda13 says:
    Jul 31, 2015 2:41 PM

    I love the pats fans that are screaming they’re going to boycott the games if Brady doesn’t play…HAHAHAHAHA..please please do it..I’m pretty sure the NFL will survive with out you. #dolts
    _____
    What if it were the other way around. Every team that played the Pathetics forfeited in protest of the team always getting away with cheating and suffering minor consequences.

  67. I won’t be holding my breath…..
    ===
    See that Kensil report? Kensil told a lie to a journalist, knowing it would be published. He knew it was a lie. He knew it would harm Brady and NEP. That’s malice. So you’ve got a known lie told with malice to harm?

    That’s defamation, and will remove a lot of money from the NFL.

    How many other lies have been told to harm NEP and TB?

  68. “Tonight on NBC. NFL owners vote of confidence in Commissioner Roger Goodell live and brought to you free of commercial interruption by the Ford Motor Company. My Game, My Commissioner live NBC Friday followed by Schindler ‘ s List.”

  69. Baby John Mara: I am saddened it’s come to this. It would all be behind us if the league had just accepted my proposal to strip the Cowboys and Redskins of multiple draft picks and $36 million in cap space.

  70. “We’re dealing with the best player in the league …”

    At least he got that part right.

  71. And I’m tired of the constant Patstericks cheating. Remember everyone, we haven’t even got into the strange scenario where opposing teams communications tend to go out during games….constantly.

  72. smasonsmith says:
    Jul 31, 2015 3:04 PM

    I won’t be holding my breath…..
    ===
    See that Kensil report? Kensil told a lie to a journalist, knowing it would be published. He knew it was a lie. He knew it would harm Brady and NEP. That’s malice. So you’ve got a known lie told with malice to harm?

    That’s defamation, and will remove a lot of money from the NFL.

    How many other lies have been told to harm NEP and TB?
    ——-

    Unlike a lot of Patriot fans, I’m not a lawyer in my spare time, but I suspect defamation is much harder to prove in court than that. Even if Kensil was the source (and that’s certainly believable), the only person who could verify it beyond doubt is Mort, who would probably refuse to testify.

    Basically, even if he has been defamed, I think it’s highly unlikely we’ll ever see such a suit.

  73. I wonder how many of these owners would back the commissioner if it was THEIR team that was facing this kind of scrutiny. Defaming their organization, their Hall of Fame QB, and penalizing them so heavily for what should amount to a small fine.

    Especially when there is so much evidence to prove that no foul play occurred.

    In addition to that, why is Mara so concerned with the pressure on Goodell? He created this mess himself.

  74. gambeast5533 says:
    Jul 31, 2015 4:55 PM

    I wonder how many of these owners would back the commissioner if it was THEIR team that was facing this kind of scrutiny. Defaming their organization, their Hall of Fame QB, and penalizing them so heavily for what should amount to a small fine.

    Especially when there is so much evidence to prove that no foul play occurred.

    In addition to that, why is Mara so concerned with the pressure on Goodell? He created this mess himself.
    ____________
    Yeah, uh Ross was one of the first to do so. Try to follow along.

  75. Mr. Mara, what are the ‘Facts & Evidence’ that lead to this?

    UH -UH -UH = Whatever Goodell found.

  76. It still cracks me up on here when I see a Pat fan Thinking they have Legitimately won something! 😀
    They have never won a SUPERBOWL If this was College they would be stripped of all. People kill me.

  77. fanofpft

    What are you talking about? What did Ross do?

    No other owner has faced this kind of scrutiny, or shenanigans from the League’s home office.

    These owners, like Kraft did, blindly follow what Goodell says. He has greatly abused his power in this situation and has made a mountain of a mole hill.

    He dug his grave, let him lie in it.

  78. I guess the term would be cognitive dissonance. “He had to make a very tough decision in very difficult circumstances” “we went the two weeks going to the super bowl that’s all we talked about.” Steven A interviewed Jamie Dukes on XM and they talked about “it was on Good Morning America”. Everyone is just so tired of the inconvenience of it all and wants it to go away. I can assure you this is more than an inconvenience to the Pats and Tom Brady. They are trying to protect a legacy, which is under assault. The 2015 season is meaningless on that score. They will not be using a playbook that someone else hands them and they will not be quietly going away. Like a fireman starting a fire, no one points out that the NFL is 100% responsible for creating these “difficult circumstances” by leaking the grossly prejudicial 2 psi lie. Even Saint Bob Costas is piping in. It’s not the offense, it’s not how we got here, it’s the coverup. We can all just go home now, Bob Costas has spoken. He was taking about Brady but he should have been taking about the NFL.

  79. One of the responders ventured a guess that all the Patriot fans are scientists. I doubt it; I think they have a huge unemployment problem, since they seem to sit around just to influence opinion here. If they ever read other media to any extent, they will learn it is a losing proposition.

  80. I am saddened that John Mara can either a) be so easily duped by a lying snake of a commissioner and his minions, or b) so blithely pretend he believes the commissioner’s “facts” because it suits Mara’s purposes as a greedy owner and it isn’t happening to his team.

  81. Lets be honest the NFL screwed this up from day one with their Incompetence and Admitted lack of knowledge that cold weather reduces air pressure , so on day one they thought they had a slam dunk and there was NO TURNING BACK.
    Had these idiots ever had to get their hands dirty and work on things that had tires they might have been smarter???

  82. John Mara is a joke. If he wants to be a leader within the NFL then lead now. The league management office headed by Goodell is destroying the game of football and you fat-cat owners are too ineptly counting your money bags to even notice.

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