Colts tout connection to league office on website

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Throughout much of the #DeflateGate controversy, Patriots fans have pointed to connections between the Jets and the league office to explain both the leak of false PSI information to ESPN and the fire-aim-ready approach to an “independent” investigation aimed not at getting to the truth but at getting to a conclusion that the Patriots cheated.

But there’s a connection between the team who made the complaint regarding deflated balls and the league office hiding in plain site at the team’s website. It’s a connection that is gratuitously touted in the biography of Colts Vice President of Football Operations Jimmy Raye III.

Here’s the last line of the bio: “Raye’s father, Jimmy Raye II, played for the Philadelphia Eagles in 1969 and is currently a senior advisor to Troy Vincent who is the executive vice president of football operations for the NFL.”

Apart from the fact that it makes little sense to tout the credentials of Jimmy Raye III by pointing out that his father serves as a senior adviser to Troy Vincent, the fact remains that the father of the Colts Vice President of Football Operations serves as a senior adviser to the NFL’s Executive Vice President of Football Operations. It’s unknown whether the father of the Colts Vice President of Football Operations provided any actual advice to the NFL’s Executive Vice President of Football Operations regarding the #DeflateGate scandal, but it would make sense for Vincent, who hasn’t held the job for very long, to seek advice from someone regarding the best way to handle an unprecedented controversy regarding the inflation of footballs.

And if he needed any advice, wouldn’t he look to his senior advisor?

On one hand, I realize that plenty of cross pollination happens between the league office and its various team, given that the expertise necessary to operate the league will in large part come from folks who have successfully operated teams. But this approach will lead to a stew of conflicting interests that can manifest themselves in all sorts of ways.

Most potential conflicts of interest aren’t readily known by the public. Amazingly, nearly seven months after the AFC title game, the Colts continue to openly acknowledge the existence of a clear link — and potential conflict of interest — between their front office and the league office.

98 responses to “Colts tout connection to league office on website

  1. This is becoming more embarrassing for the NFL by the day and their conflicts of interest. Goodell has become a nasty, power hungry dictator and he really has become corrupted by power. He must resign immediately for conducting a prejudiced, biased sting operation of the Patriots, an operation in which it’s clear the FIX and the ax to grind against the Patriots was in from the very beginning. How can any player have any confidence in this guy when it’s clear his personal agendas are interfering with his ability to do his job? It’s obvious he was trying to recover his tough guy reputation after botching the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson situations and DeflateGate was his chance to show the other owners he can be a tough guy and go after his buddy Kraft.

  2. Where people complaining of this potential conflict of interest when the NFL spended Irsay for six games?

    If there was ever a time that connection would come in handy, that would’ve been it and it played no bearing on the decision.

  3. Whoa…. Where’s the hate spew? No one going to comment on how the Pats and their fans are just grasping at conspiracies?

    This has been a witch hunt from the beginning and the players have been exposed to those who have eyes to see it. This league is corrupt, and it is sad because this is such a great game.

  4. Nice find, but really no surprise. You can see the hate in Vincent’s demeanor when he talks about anything that has to do with the patriots.

    Go back and look at video of the SB presser with Vincent, Blandino and the SB Ref. At one point, when Blandino is asked a question about the pressure of the footballs in the AFCC game, Vincent cuts off Blandino and gives the ‘it’s under investigation, we’re not going to talk about it’ line.

    Vincent’s body language said a lot during that presser

  5. The fix was in from the start! I can only hope that the NFL front office has to go under oath in Federal Court and their phones and emails are part of discovery.

  6. rascalmanny says:
    Aug 14, 2015 10:18 AM
    Goodell haters need to remember that he works for ALL owners. Who may not like the Patriots.

    _________________________________________

    Are you saying that justifies what the NFL did to the Patriots here?

    That’s how sports are supposed to work right? If you can’t beat them on the field, tell the Commish you’d like him to knock them down a peg by manufacturing a cheating scandal, then taking away draft picks and banning their quarterback.

  7. Of course people in the league office are aligned with people on teams. I don’t think this is anything really. Family or not. Just something that is a fact of life.

  8. The Colts are a whining embarrassment. Tout their losses with banners, set up sting operations with the NFL front office and the Ravens all while having a pill popping, drunk owner, who had a woman overdose in his house. 6 games was nothing for Irsay, the franchise should have been taken from him as Donald Sterling’s was for a far lesser offense.

  9. @truthfactory
    Because an owner missing 6 games is so damaging to the team, right? Give me a break. Goodell would have been lynched if he didn’t come down hard on Irsay, who was known to have a huge drug problem for years before he was arrested.

  10. Typical of the Rats…I mean Colts to tout this connection….kind of like the “bring us your drugs” campaign….there are ways to do things and ways not to do things–like their second place banner……who’s in charge of PR there in Indy?

  11. There’s another connection that nobody is talking about. The people in the Colts front office and the people in the league office breath air. Can you believe it? Now there’s a conflict of interest.

  12. FrameGate deserves it’s own, truly independent investigation

    Why are no reporters hounding Goodell and the Owners to explain why Goodell promised an internal investigation but then refused to allow it to proceed?

    Goodell has been caught in lie after lie, covering up a clear conspiracy to conduct an unethical sting violation which turned up nothing – forcing them to fabricate a scandal instead

    The Owners’s own NFL Constitution is clear – Article VIII MANDATES that ONLY a person of “unquestioned integrity” SHALL serve as Commissioner

    That’s not Goodell. The Owners’ can’t deny that – but clearly, by saying nothing, and taking no action, the owners DON’T WANT a Commissioner with integrity

    They want a puppet who will lie, leak, libel and slander NFLPA members so they can show them who the “boss” is

    Now that the FBI is done with FIFA it’s time they paid attention to home grown corruption in the Anti-Trust protected NFL

  13. truthfactory says:
    Aug 14, 2015 10:19 AM

    Where people complaining of this potential conflict of interest when the NFL spended Irsay for six games?

    If there was ever a time that connection would come in handy, that would’ve been it and it played no bearing on the decision

    ———–

    No, people were not complaining at the time, because nobody knew. However in hindsight it seems clear that was the reason Irsay only got 6 games and $500k fine.

  14. truthfactory says: Aug 14, 2015 10:19 AM

    Where people complaining of this potential conflict of interest when the NFL spended Irsay for six games?

    If there was ever a time that connection would come in handy, that would’ve been it and it played no bearing on the decision.
    =========================

    My only thought on this is: How the hell do you know if it played a roll??? You cant make that leap that it didn’t play a role. It might have been the difference between getting a 10 game suspension or ultimately getting 6. Or, it may very well have played no role at all. But no one can make that statement as if it is a fact. You are just being a fool at this point because you hate the patriots so much. Its embarrassing for some of you people. It is mind boggling that people can look at the same set of facts, and based on their own personal agenda, come to completely different conclusions.

  15. If Troy Vincent was aware of the Ideal Gas Law he would have known footballs deflate in cold wet conditions. Because of his ignorance this whole mess started. The intercepted ball had a PSI that was spot on per the gas law . The fact that the intercepted ball was NOT included in the Non independent Wells report is crazy.
    As Judge Berman asked do you have any evidence that Connects Tom to this The NFL said No! Even the judge said in the second half when the Pats scored 28 unanswered points it did not seem to give an advantage in the first half of a 45-7 blowout.

  16. The Ginger Hammer and his minions are nothing but a good old boys club who hand out justice based on jealousy, innuendo and vengeance. This sewer needs to be cleaned out as it is a violation to the integrity of the league. The Ginger Hammer and his minions are corrupt from the word go and need to all go.

  17. The NFL offices are a joke.I love football and i couldn`t stop watching my team on TV if i tried but i won`t spend another dime on the NFL until Goodell is gone.If the cable company wants to give them my money fine but i won`t go to another game or buy another NFL licensed product while that idiot is getting the credit for it.

  18. This whole thing has such a stink to it that Judge Berman really needs to tell the NFL to clean up its act. This is disgusting and the reach to destroy Tom Brady’s reputation is shameful. This is why he should never settle even if it means reducing that suspension. Just fight it and never accept the findings of a corrupt organization (unless they are true).

  19. j0esixpack says:

    The Owners’s own NFL Constitution is clear – Article VIII MANDATES that ONLY a person of “unquestioned integrity” SHALL serve as Commissioner

    —————————————————————–

    You can keep saying this forever. It seems to be your full time job. What you don’t mention is who determines their integrity.

    Only takes one person asking questions.

  20. Marshawn Lunch says:
    Aug 14, 2015 10:31 AM
    Patriots cheated IS the truth.

    ——————-
    There is no direct evidence that cheating took place.

    But whether or not you believe that the Patriots cheated in the AFC Championship Game, that doesn’t matter when it comes to the Superbowl.

    The Seahawks got beat fair and square.

    Man up Marshawn; admit that the Patriots are the superior team and move on with your life.

  21. Troy Vincent’s story of the AFCC game 2nd quarter/halftime events differ from those in the Wells report.

    Apparently Vincent’s “best recollection” is even worse than Walt Anderson’s

  22. Ez marshawn lunch holding is also considered cheating and it happens every game. BTW the Patriots played the super bowl under a microscope and beat your team 28-24 fair and square, how did that make you feel?

  23. All other owners should be frightened. It won’t be long until it’s their team. The players need to renegotiate their CBA. All pats haters… Please stop. You sound ridiculous

  24. Don’t worry Colts fans, any team that beats you badly will have a scandal manufactured against it

  25. truthfactory says:
    Aug 14, 2015 10:19 AM
    Where people complaining of this potential conflict of interest when the NFL spended Irsay for six games?

    If there was ever a time that connection would come in handy, that would’ve been it and it played no bearing on the decision.
    ====================================
    The NBA forced the sale of a team for less. What does suspending an owner really do? It’s a show. Irsay damaged his own reputation by being caught with a massive amount of narcotics. I don’t get your point.

  26. “Here’s the last line of the bio: “Raye’s father, Jimmy Raye II, played for the Philadelphia Eagles in 1969 and is currently a senior advisor to Troy Vincent who is the executive vice president of football operations for the NFL.” ”

    Bravo, Florio.

    I haven’t seen this reported anywhere else.

    But Vincent heard nothing of deflated ball talk until just before halftime of the AFCCG.

    What is that phrase about “avoiding even the appearance of impropriety” and the need to “recuse” oneself?

    I am sure Jimmy Raye II and Jimmy Ray III got their positions based on merit, just like the sons of owners got theirs.

  27. The media isn’t asking the league tough questions (like how come Farve wasn’t suspended for not turning over his phone), so the buffoonery has continued. The league has lost control of their case long ago, but it continues despite the public seeing that the case against Brady has too many holes to ever be trusted as legit.

  28. It’s only a matter of time before the NFL office is reorganized. The last thing the 32 spoiled brats want is bad PR.
    And trust me, they are getting hammered in the eyes who pay their bills.
    I for one can’t wait until these clowns fall and fall hard.

  29. I don’t see a conflict of interest here at all. First, the advisor is not the decision maker. Second, the Colts get no benefit from how the NFL handles the controversy. Finally, these supposed “conflicts of interest” exist all over the league. What are they supposed to do about it?

  30. Just like virtually every NFL ownership suite, the NFL league office is a cesspool of nepotism and hacks.

    No direct evidence of wrong doing by Brady.

    Circumstantial evidence with no links to the AFCCG.

    No evidence of a conspiracy.

    No due process for Brady, potentially the greatest player to play the game and a wonderful ambassador for the league.

    But Grigson said “everyone” knows Brady is guilty, we just don’t know even one person included in “everyone”, and Pagano plays Sergeant Schultz.

    No Colts punished for leaking the story to Kravitz to ensure it went public and was not dealt with in-house.

    This wasn’t a sting, it was a frame job.

  31. In Teddy We Trust says:
    Aug 14, 2015 11:08 AM

    I don’t see a conflict of interest here at all. First, the advisor is not the decision maker. Second, the Colts get no benefit from how the NFL handles the controversy. Finally, these supposed “conflicts of interest” exist all over the league. What are they supposed to do about it?

    ——-

    for starters they could do an ‘independent’ investigation that is actually independent.

    they could have told AFCC game officials (meaning Walt Anderson and his crew) that there is concern that one team’s footballs may get air let out AFTER officials test them. However instead they told Walt to ‘follow proper pre-came testing protocol’. They said nothing about what might happen AFTER they are tested…..which was the whole point of Grigson’s email.

    and that’s just a start. they had options they chose not to take

  32. Much like Superman drawing power from the sun, I now draw my strength from the tears and burning hate and blind envy/jealousy from the Pats haters.

    SOAK IT UP – 4 SB Wins and counting!!!!

  33. Trust me instead of the Dolts ( misspelled on purpose), it was the Patriots every body would be seeing it as a conflict. Of course the Pats would not hire an idiot like Vincent, love the fact that he lied about having a college degree, then got one on line, what a loser.

  34. thebifforacle says:

    The Owners’s own NFL Constitution is clear – Article VIII MANDATES that ONLY a person of “unquestioned integrity” SHALL serve as Commissioner

    —————————————————————–

    You can keep saying this forever. It seems to be your full time job. What you don’t mention is who determines their integrity.

    Only takes one person asking questions.
    ==================================

    I’m not sure which person you suggest to ask the questions… I certainly am

    Article VIII is the essence of FrameGate

    Roger Goodell claims to be the protector of the shield, fighting for the “integrity of the game”

    The HUGE irony of this faux scandal is it’s illustrated that the COMMISSIONER HIMSELF as well as the owners, have tarnished “the shield” and have NO INTEGRITY

    I challenge anyone to show how Goodell, with his litany of lies, even before the US District Court, meets the standard of “unquestioned integrity”

  35. In Teddy We Trust says:
    Aug 14, 2015 11:08 AM

    I don’t see a conflict of interest here at all. First, the advisor is not the decision maker. Second, the Colts get no benefit from how the NFL handles the controversy. Finally, these supposed “conflicts of interest” exist all over the league. What are they supposed to do about it?
    _____________________
    You honestly believe that in the biggest scandal in the history of sports, the man who came up with the original punishment, Troy Vincent, wouldn’t consult his advisors?

  36. Goodell & integrity don’t belong in the same sentence. All his office has done is lie, lie, lie. From the letter to the patriots regarding the PSI that was false , to leaking the erroneous PSI levels to Mortensen ( ie Kensil), to stating Tom wanted the appeals sealed, when infact it was the NFL, to the lie that Tom never talked to JJ about what could have happened to the footballs, when in fact the transcript of the appeal shows that they did , to saying the wells report was independent, when it wasn’t, then saying it doesn’t matter if it wasn’t.
    As the song says” I know you’re lying , your lips are moving “

  37. 2 things,

    1. wahteverhappenned to that ref who was caught stealing game balls? Must be hiding with McNally 😉 Ravens contacted Colts to tell them something was up with the balls because k balls were missing. Somehow this got morph into the Pats doing something. Let’s hear from that ref or anyone in the NFL on this. crickets
    2. Roger, Roger, Roger. can you get your story striaght.

    Google “Goodell Umass Lowell graduation speech”. Give a listen and see if you don’t think there are 2 Rogers out there. Graduation speech Roger and Bizzarro World Roger.

    I’d love to see a split screen in Times Square with both this Graduation speech on one side and his blubbering nonsense speech about his “rationale” for his findings on this whole phony mess. Then let’s see Haternation defend his actions.

    Sauce for the goose.

  38. Colts are a shifty organization…..skulking away in the middle of the night when they left Baltimore, complaining to the refs about defensive holding and getting the rules changed to suit their QB, sucking for Luck, creating the deflategate fiasco.

    And their fans rip on the Pats. Hypocrites.

  39. This doesn’t shock me and I am not sure it makes any difference. I don’t doubt that the Jets and/or Colts who occupy or influence the front office hate the Patriots…That and a predisposition to whine are something the Jets and Colts share in abundance. Framegate doesn’t smack of that kind of politic to me though. This really looks like a CYA operation. The league screwed the pooch and has been covering its back end ever since.

  40. How anyone can defend Goodell after all that has come out obviously has not read any article, just the headlines. Unfortunately, because all the lies were allowed to be seen as the truth,most people still think Deflategate is real! When infact it’s a vendetta against one of the greatest to play the game. Wonder all who were so quick to condemn Tom still believe the lies!!

  41. Let me reiterate,

    this is payback for BB embarrassing the Ravens on the field by knowing more about football rules than Harbaugh. But they couldn’t get directly at BB b/c it was LEGAL and BRILLIANT.

    So really the payback starts when TB, in a total non-TB fashion, after 14 years of saying nuthin about nobody tells the world that the Ravens need to bone up on rules.

    I have no clue why he broke stride that night but that is where it all began and someone decided to pay back with the rule about ball inflation.. So catch a game ball, take it to your sideline, let a little air out then go tell your mommy Tommy cheated. They actually went after BB first (you’re in big f’n trouble, remember that?) but realizing that wouldn’t fly sent their “source” out to play Mort like a fiddle.

    And if Mort had one milligram of charater or integrity he could have corrected this, like Tomase did, without revealing the source. Gutless, cowardly and bereft of journalistic integrity. Then Mort agree to go on a local talk shown and bails at the last minute. More profiles in courage.

  42. .
    Q. Who wrote the forward to Jimmy Raye’s book?

    A. Tony Dungy, a noted Colts insider and BFF of Jim Irsay. He’s also on the record as hating the Patriots with the power of a million suns.
    .

  43. moosey7195 says:
    Aug 14, 2015 11:29 AM
    In Teddy We Trust says:
    Aug 14, 2015 11:08 AM

    I don’t see a conflict of interest here at all. First, the advisor is not the decision maker. Second, the Colts get no benefit from how the NFL handles the controversy. Finally, these supposed “conflicts of interest” exist all over the league. What are they supposed to do about it?
    ———-
    How about we start with Roger being forced to do a 200 word essay on what and “independent” investigation actually means.

  44. grumpyoleman says: Must be why they received no punishment for playing with under inflated balls that day also.
    ======================

    Ted Wells actually did address that… yes, one gauge showed the 3 of the 4 Colts footballs to be under 12.5psi (bear in mind Wells thinks the Pats can perfectly deflate 12 footballs in 90 seconds but the officials couldn’t simply TEST all the Colts balls during all of halftime)

    Ted Wells is on the record saying he simply assumed the higher reading was the accurate one

    When it came to the Patriots he is on the record saying he simply assumed the LOWER reading was the accurate one

    This would all be laughable if most NFL fans weren’t gullible enough to say “Sure – that’s fair and consistent”

    Add to that the fact that Wells and Goodell attempt to show a higher degree of deflation by assuming Walt Anderson’s “best recollection” was WRONG when it came to which gauge he used

    Let that sink in for a moment. Walt Anderson effectively screwed up from the start, failing to record all 24 football PSIs

    Wells and Goodell fully accept his “best recollection” as accurate on 24 specific psi readings – FROM MEMORY

    But when it came to Anderson remembering the simple issue of which gauge he used? They assume he suddenly developed Alzheimers and thus presume his “best recollection” on that matter was wrong, concluding he used the DIFFERENT gauge to effectively increase the percentage of deflation

    If the NFL’s actions and attempt to cover up their frame job weren’t so criminal, it would be funny!

    And of course what’s hilarious is the majority of NFL fans saying “Yup! That sounds about right to me! Good job Roger!”

  45. How could Goodell’s lawyers advise him to give the investigation, determination of guilt or innocence, and the penalty if guilt found to a staffer who was advised by the father of a Colts front office guy?

    Pure hubris. Bergman is slowly learning there is evidence of a conspiracy, by the NFL.

  46. If this was a witch hunt, then it was the most perfectly timed witch hunt EVER!!!

    I mean how did they know that McNally was going to not only take the game balls without checking them out with Anderson, but then take them into an unsecured bathroom before taking then to the field…Priceless timing!!!

    Don’t blame the NFL for what has happened…blame McNally for either doing it or making one of the worst decisions in his time with NE..well besides feeding in practice balls to Tom in 2004..

  47. mixjuan says:
    Aug 14, 2015 10:22 AM
    Whoa…. Where’s the hate spew? No one going to comment on how the Pats and their fans are just grasping at conspiracies?
    _______________

    It’s because Patriot fans are the only ones reading these articles anymore. Everyone else has moved on.

  48. raidernation210 says: Where is the deflator???
    ================================

    Great question. That’s the one person Patriots fans and Haters alike were wanting Roger Goodell to call to testify – under oath – at the Appeal hearing – especially since Ted Wells apparently decided that 7 hours and 4 separate interrogations in which he maintained that he’d done NOTHING wasn’t enough

    So ask yourself:

    Why would Roger Goodell be afraid to have “the deflator” (whom the Patriots stated was responsible for inflating and deflating the footballs out of the box to break them in – hence the nickname) testify?

    The only reason Goodell would NOT want him to testify under oath, with penalty of perjury is because he would have AGAIN stated – under oath – that NOTHING HAPPENED (which is of course is consistent with the PSI from the correct gauge and the Ideal Gas Law the Haters wish no one would talk about)

    So ask Goodell – he had a chance to question “the deflator” under oath, extensively

    He chose not to do so – and that’s not the least bit suspicious to you?????

    There’s your smoking gun for #FrameGate

  49. Marshawn Lunch says:Aug 14, 2015 10:31 AM

    Patriots cheated IS the truth.

    —–

    Says no one anymore except the willfully ignorant and those journalists that pander to that style of fanbase.

    As for this connection, while it’s there and something to consider, I think Vincent got all the hate-on-Pats feelings he needed from Kensil and Grigson in order to do the dirty work Goodell wanted him to do.

  50. terripet says:
    Aug 14, 2015 10:29 AM

    Colts 2016 Super bowl champs
    =================================

    Funniest thing I’ve read all day. The Colts got destroyed by the Patriots running game the last three times they played and what do they do to improve during the off season? Sign an aging running back and an aging wide receiver.

    Colts in the Playoffs are like the movie “Groundhog Day.”

  51. So the father of the Colts VP of football operations is basically Troy Vincent’s right hand man. Now he wouldn’t suggest the Patriots and Brady be slammed with punishment because it would make it easier for his sons team to get to the SB.. well of course he would. This rats nest needs to be exposed and turned out. Where is the pied piper when you need him!!!!

  52. Here’s another little nugget about the Ravens contacting the Colts. Has anyone even looked at whether the NFL Official that was fired for stealing the K Ball in the AFC Champ game was really the guy who screwed up the Ravens with their K-Ball?

    Mike you should get on this and see if that NFL employee was on the field at the Pats/Ravens game.

  53. Frame-Gate proved to everyone that Goodell & the NFL are corrupt and will sell you the Big Lie to further their Agenda.

    If you believe that Goodell destroyed the Spy-Gate tapes to protect the Patriots, then I have a Bridge to sell you.

    Spy-Gate tapes were destroyed for One MAIN REASON – to protect the other Teams violations caught on tape by Belichick.

    Once the guilty owners reviewed those tapes they went into the fire and the spin was on YOU.

  54. How many execs of the Patriots have ties to the NFL offices? Zip. Nada. Zilch.

    Funny how all the connections are related to the Colts, Ravens, and Jets.

    What conspiracy?

  55. solo681 says:
    Aug 14, 2015 1:45 PM

    Frame-Gate proved to everyone that Goodell & the NFL are corrupt and will sell you the Big Lie to further their Agenda.

    If you believe that Goodell destroyed the Spy-Gate tapes to protect the Patriots, then I have a Bridge to sell you.

    Spy-Gate tapes were destroyed for One MAIN REASON – to protect the other Teams violations caught on tape by Belichick.

    Once the guilty owners reviewed those tapes they went into the fire and the spin was on YOU.
    ______________________________
    No Solo. The Spygate tapes were destroyed so Belichick couldn’t fight Goodell over the penalties. Belichick has never actually acknowledged to have broken a rule. And the reason for that is because he didn’t break an actual rule. The memo misquotes the rule, making it null and void. Goodell destroyed evidence to save his own hide. Remember that he was new to his position back in 07. He couldn’t afford to lose his first case of player discipline.

  56. Jimmy Raye II also spent one season in NE as OC. That was the Rod Rust year. Yeah, when you go 1-15, you get canned.

  57. This is beyond ridiculous. So, the Patriots are basically judged by a group of people with long-term ties to the Jets and Colts. Seems totally legit, no way those people are biased.

  58. “skawh says:
    Aug 14, 2015 4:07 PM
    After months of reading NE fans whining NE should simply change their team name to NE cheating whiners.”

    skawh, you must haved loved watching the NFL (of all people) make that special video of Butler intercepting Wilson and all the Patriots guys (even Ernie Adams) talking about how Bill put in the perfect defense for the play, the only time they had run that specific defense all year.

    You will never forget that play, the greatest in super bowl history.

  59. “which is of course is consistent with the PSI from the correct gauge and the Ideal Gas Law the Haters wish no one would talk about”

    —————-
    Please tell us the exact temp of the room they pre-game tested those balls in?
    It’s part of your equation for those Gas Laws, so it’s pretty important…don’t know exactly do you?…thought so 😉

  60. dandeman19 says:
    Aug 14, 2015 4:25 PM

    Who’s whining? The other teams that accuse the Pats That is who

    #jealousy

    —————————————-

    patriots have had great success. brady is hof material obviously and belicheck is a great coach. i wish my team had their success. but. not at the cost of constantly indicating by behavior a sense of divine right in choosing to break and avoid the rules. ‘you’ HAVE damaged the game. and the trust that would be foregone by goodell backing off the suspension would be destructive.

    i understand that you all will feel cheated if his penalty remains as is. but i’m in favor of the greater good. rant on if you must. but you’re wrong. and the rest of us are aware.

  61. We are wrong? Then how come the NFL NEVER countered the erroneous report of the balls being 2lbs/psi? They let that sit for several months. How come the NFL never acted on the Colts complaint when it was a day before the game. They acted after the game was started. How come 3 of 4 Colts balls were under and the league has done nothing to them. Yet they are worried about integrity of the game. Really? they were? Nah I think not

    PS when I come at haters with facts it dismantles two things the NFL’s story and the haters beliefs.

  62. Also why ESPN’s Chris Carter takes shots at the Pats. He’s hoping it buys good will for his son trying to make the Colts this season. Same guy who said Calvin Johnson wasn’t an elite receiver. Joke of a Talking Head.

  63. How about something productive? There should be some sort of by-law installed at the NFL offices that prohibits any team from having more than (x number) % of employees that were associated with the same team acting in decision making positions. The office is full of ex-Jets now and that certainly has been a problem. The “integrity” of the game calls for an administration that should be seen as fair by the general public.

  64. patriots have had great success. brady is hof material obviously and belicheck is a great coach. i wish my team had their success. but. not at the cost of constantly indicating by behavior a sense of divine right in choosing to break and avoid the rules. ‘you’ HAVE damaged the game. and the trust that would be foregone by goodell backing off the suspension would be destructive.

    i understand that you all will feel cheated if his penalty remains as is. but i’m in favor of the greater good. rant on if you must. but you’re wrong. and the rest of us are aware.

    ======================================

    Umm, you remind me of the fans who proclaim “my team doesn’t cheat!” Read yourteamcheats.com. The Pats actually cheat less than most teams, due to the Spygate experience (which, btw, was actually within the rules). Try again, chump!

  65. Kraft’s friend? I doubt that The Wells report exonerates Kraft and Belichick and Goodell still comes down on the Pats org.?
    Care to explain thar?

  66. dandeman19, I’m not sure if I understand your question the way it’s written. Prior to Deflategate, Kraft was considered the owner closest and most supportive of Goodell.

    Aside from that, why would Goodell burn the Spygate tapes? What was the logic?

  67. If Goodell really loved Kraft The Wells report declared him innocent so why did Goodell punish his team and thus him? Maybe at one time Goodell loved Kraft but looking at what I said a bit ago that love is gone

  68. Because circumstantial evidence points to cheating. Why would the Pats suspend the two ball handlers?

    Maybe, just maybe, Goodell is trying to be fair this time and not play favorites?

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