NFL, DirecTV facing another class-action lawsuit over Sunday Ticket

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The NFL and DirecTV likely will be glad when summer ends, and not just because football season has arrived.

In June, July, and now in August, the league and its satellite TV partner have been on the wrong end of class-action lawsuits arising from the NFL Sunday Ticket package.

The latest has been filed in federal court in California, on behalf of the Gael Pub in New York City and all restaurants and bars that purchased the package during the relevant time period. The allegations are similar to the claims made in the July lawsuit filed by a San Francisco establishment regarding the limited availability and pricing of out-of-market games.

The complaint, a copy of which PFT has obtained, alleges that the sliding-scale of package prices based on maximum occupancy ranges from $1,458 per year to more than $120,000 annually.

All three cases have been filed since a settlement was announced in litigation against DirecTV over its NHL package. It appeared at the time that the settlement would spark a renewed attack on Sunday Ticket. The renewed attacks so far have occurred monthly.

It’s clear that the NFL and DirecTV are potentially violating antitrust laws by forcing consumers to purchase the whole package even if they only want one game, and by charging rates unaffected by competition to bars and restaurants that attract customers by making all games available for simultaneous viewing. The question is whether the broadcast antitrust exemption, or any other exemption or defense, allows the league and the satellite provider to dominate the market and to dictate whether a fan must buy all out-of-market games in order to see just the one about which he or she cares.

78 responses to “NFL, DirecTV facing another class-action lawsuit over Sunday Ticket

  1. My Sunday ticket is free. I’m not complaining. Also, fantasy football die hards like myself like having all the games. I do see where bars and restaurants are coming from, though.

  2. Who needs it? Red Zone is the way to go and my team is on my local TV and average of 10-11 x a year. And when they are not, I can get the radio broadcast.

  3. easy solution – don’t offer the package to businesses. Problem solved.

    RedZone > Sunday ticket anyways

  4. I was wondering if the guilt ridden Pats fans would post to this thread since it’s got nothing to do with their cheating … and it seems they have. Priceless.

  5. Its about having the Option to only pay for one game if you are only interested in one team. Currently that option does not exist. But you could still have all the games if you like. They should be friggin sued, no doubt about it.

  6. They should have Sunday ticket, but it needs to be available on more than one provider. DirecTV and Sunday ticket is a prime example of a Government sanctioned monopoly. Cable and Internet companies have operated like this for years. Low selection of providers due to only one or two generally available in an area because the infrastructure costs are prohibitive. That’s a problem for the company, not the consumer. Britain has around 25 television providers and consequently they pay far lower internet and cable prices.

    The NFL can’t catch a break and I’m sure we’re loving this manly soap opera.

  7. @floratiotime…. I was wondering if the Patriot haters would post to this thread since it’s got nothing to do with the Patriots. Priceless.

  8. I only hate direct tv because they wont ket those who are unable to fet service buy the online version only. They claim its available in my zip. That may be true, but neighbors trees block any signal.

  9. Courts hate bullies like Goodell and the NFL. Thanks to Roger the Boob’s malicious attempts to persecute players, fans are paying more attention to the NFL’s FIFA-like intimidation and corruption. No way judges rule in favor of this monopoly

  10. floratiotime says:
    Aug 15, 2015 9:50 AM

    I was wondering if the guilt ridden Pats fans would post to this thread since it’s got nothing to do with their cheating … and it seems they have. Priceless.
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    Well, no one was wondering if the Hater Faithful would show up, because that is a given. You delusional bozos are everywhere.

  11. “Well, no one was wondering if the Hater Faithful would show up, because that is a given. You delusional bozos are everywhere.”

    Guilt crazed Pats fans post their mantra in all sorts of threads. I’m just showing my amazement at how they wedge their “we didn’t cheat, we’re innocent, besides everyone does it,and anyway it didn’t affect the game” agenda everywhere.

  12. I want a streaming service similar to MLB. And I don’t want to have to pay for satellite to get it.________________________________

    Mommy, make it free! WAAHHH!

  13. asspantz says:
    Aug 15, 2015 9:40 AM
    We should sue the bars for marking up a bottle of Bud Light 1000%

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    …..Bud light doesnt qualify as beer

  14. I ordered Direct TV and had installer come out this Thursday. The lazy disgruntled installer came up with every possible excuse NOT to install my dish. Then, his lazy disgruntled supervisor came out later and said the same thing. I think my job was too hard or complicated and they wanted to move on to the next easier installation. Unreal…

  15. floratiotime says:
    Aug 15, 2015 9:50 AM

    I was wondering if the guilt ridden Pats fans would post to this thread since it’s got nothing to do with their cheating … and it seems they have. Priceless.

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    There are roughly a dozen or so Patriot trolls who live to take every chance to spew vitriol. The topic has nothing to do with the Pats, but they rage away. I’m a Pats fan of 39 years and have had Sunday Ticket for 15 years. I have, along with everyone else (moderator permitted) to post on this topic. You called it “priceless”, I’d better describe your opinion on the topic as Useless.

  16. “You called it “priceless”, I’d better describe your opinion on the topic as Useless.”

    I love how far this has gotten into the heads of Pats fans. This needs to be appreciated and acknowledged for the rare phenomenon it is. Enjoy the beauty of it.

  17. I’d welcome the opportunity to purchase a single team season package. I’m sure there are others who feel that way as well. Why DirecTV doesn’t offer both options is beyond me. Until they do, I’ll stick with listening to my team on NFL audio.

  18. Lawyers as usual looking for a cut. If a bar doesn’t want to pay then don’t order it. It’s that simple. And the fire goodell comments on every thread are boring. He works for the owners. Do you have any idea how much money the owners have made since he was named commissioner? And how much more their teams are worth? So you’re asking those owners to fire the man who helped make them rich just because Tom Brady is a cheater? Good luck with that

  19. “It’s clear that the NFL and DirecTV are potentially violating antitrust laws by forcing consumers to purchase the whole package even if they only want one game…”

    They’re not forcing consumers to do anything.

  20. Funny how Pats haters are always the first ones in a thread preemptively complaining about the Pats. Cut and paste much?

  21. “floratiotime says: Aug 15, 2015 9:50 AM I was wondering if the guilt ridden Pats fans would post to this thread since it’s got nothing to do with their cheating … and it seems they have. Priceless.”

    Poor floratiotime. Can’t get the Patriots out of your head, can you? They live in there, lol. Belichick owns you.

  22. Would like the option to just buy games as PPV. I just axed my Sunday Ticket for the first time in 15 years. I figure Ill miss it on about 4 NFL Sundays. And for that Im not paying 250 bucks. I loved having it, but just too expensive.

  23. Watch out for direct tv. They gave me Sunday ticket last year for free as a valued costumer. They also gave me hbo package for 3 months. Even after NFL season was over and 3 months worth of hbo they continued to charge me for the next 5 months. Nothing is for free. They will get their money one way or another. Should be a class action lawsuit for that. Check ur bill. I know I’m not the only one.

  24. NFL and Directv have been ripping fans off for years with this, that’s why I stopped purchasing it. My buddies and I used to be the system by 1 guy purchasing the package and then the 4 of us would swap boxes.

  25. “It’s clear that the NFL and DirecTV are potentially violating antitrust laws by forcing consumers to purchase the whole package even if they only want one game…”
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    Sorry, but I don’t agree with this at all. If I only want to buy “blue” M&M’s, can I sue M&M/Mars??

    This is utterly ridiculous. The NFL sells the whole package as a single product. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s their product, and this shouldn’t violate any anti-trust laws. If for some technicality it does, we need to change the anti-trust law to protect private enterprise.

    The government shouldn’t be able to force M&M/Mars to sell each color of M&M’s individually, nor should they be able to force the NFL to sell its product a different way.

  26. In my experience Direct TV has lousy service. Red Zone and radio are much better. I purchased Direct TV last year and soon found out that Direct TV feed had a several minute delay behind Red Zone and the phone notification’s that my team’s App would send when my team scored. At least 5 and as many as 8 games will probably be shown on my local TV, for those games I think I can make due with Red Zone or radio.

  27. Goodell will tell the owners that he needs to fight lawsuit. He has concrete evidence that Brady is behind the lawsuit. Wells is again investigation this time pro bono because of the piss poor job he did before.

  28. There are only 1-3 games per week worth watching and those are all on national TV. There is no need to buy DirecTv unless you are living in San Diego and you are a Dolphins fan.

    The NFL is getting more unwatchable every year. Constant penalties and commercials in the 1st half.

    One time on a Sunday Night game between the Saints n I think Falcons the longest amount of real time, not game clock time, the game went in the 1st half without a commercial was 5 mins and 30 seconds.

  29. If you poke around the internet you will find there are many ways to watch every game live without DirecTV and regardless where you live. Some of them are nefarious and some of them are actually offered by babylon at a reasonable price with a wink and a nod.

  30. The fact that this package is only available through one, very specific provider, is what is criminal.

    Until this duopoly is broken up, I support those suing the NFL and DirecTV. Consumers should have far more choice and reasonable pricing for access to an empire that is as fat and wealthy as it is.

  31. I can’t complain about only buying one teams games because I like watching all the games, when my team plays at 4 I can watch the 1 o’clock games and see teams that aren’t on my teams schedule or watch division opponents games. I’ve been getting Sunday Ticket since it came out in ’94 and couldn’t imagine not having it. The thing that really bothers me is having to subscribe to a package of programming I don’t even want or need. As noted above DirecTv service sucks,they are constantly overcharging and calling them is one of the longest most tedious phone calls you will ever make and it may take getting transferred and explaining the problem several times before you get a satisfactory resolution. The reason for their crappy customer service is because they know they are the only one with the product a ton of die hard NFL fans will keep buying regardless because the alternative is not watching any out of market games and for people like me that’s all non-national broadcasts.

  32. NFL accused once again of deceptive business practices , what a big surprise.

    starcaps
    Bountygate.
    deflategate
    NFL Sunday Ticket
    cowboys/Redskins penalties

    The Comissioner is a joke and a punch line. Roger and his whole staff must go.

  33. It’s called tethering. Making you purchase purchase a product you don’t want to get a product you want. For example making you purchase land line Internet and phone just to get cable, which is illegal.

    Maestro that is like saying you have to make a snickers without nuts in your m & m example. Different example.

  34. I’ve always wondered why there isn’t a class action lawsuit against the NFL on the part of season ticket holders who are required to purchase pre-season tickets at the same price of regular season tickets as part of their season ticket package? The league (and the teams) freely admit that the pre-season product isn’t the same as the regular season product. This one seems like a slam-dunk.

  35. With AT&T purchasing DirecTV, HOPEFULLY things will be different.

    IF NOT, with the NFL selling the rights to the London game to Yahoo, HOPEFULLY they will see that they can cut out the middle man, and sell the package themselves, and make even more money once this contract expires.

  36. It would be nice as a consumer to at least have the option to purchase the game(s) you want to watch.

    If people want the whole thing for fantasy….That’s Fine.

    I play fantasy football……but really want to watch my team every Sunday.

    The rest I can keep up with via Apps, local TV, RedZone, etc.

  37. NFL needs to look at the NBA and how they do League Pass. You can get it on most cable providers and they now just did a tiering system where you can get the full package for $200, just one team’s games for $120 or any individual NBA game for $7.

    Obviously the frequency of games is much different but I’m sure the NFL can figure it out. Or maybe not.

  38. ar1888 says:
    Aug 15, 2015 10:04 AM
    I only hate direct tv because they wont ket those who are unable to fet service buy the online version only. They claim its available in my zip. That may be true, but neighbors trees block any signal.

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    Are you, or do you know any who is, enrolled in a 4 year university? If so, just put the students info into DirectTVs website (all you need is name, university, and birth date) and you can purchase the full streaming package for $100.

  39. @bonesawisready

    That is not true, just another bad rumor. The NFL and DirecTV understand how the internet works and they need to see an IP Address from said University or Overseas. Trust me, I have tried everything! I even bought a stupid proxy server software that claimed to send a robo international IP. Nothing but wiziwig ( now shut down ) worked. FirstRows.eu is the only current way and it looks like PacMan from the 80’s in resolution and that is when you are not battling malicious pop-ups!

    I would pay for a Team package, Conference or Division, but I don’t want Satellite. The only thing keeping DirecTV in business is the Ticket. They will not budge and that is why they outbid everyone for exclusivity. It is a monopoly and should be challenged. If AT&T Execs had a brain they would choke Murdoch and tell him they are missing 75% of the willing market. Especially, when going to a single game costs about $300 for bad seats and 3rd party parking.

  40. Maybe last season, when it was only available at I think 4 schools total, but they opened it to all 4 year universities now. So that inevitably includes 10s of 1000s of students who live off campus and/or take classes online only from an entirely different location. If they restrict it to only on campus IPs they are just asking for a big PR nightmare.

  41. You can pretty much get whatever price you want. The people in the sales department can adjust the price. If you area current subscriber, just call in to cancel your Sunday Ticket package before the season. Tell them that you can not afford it this year. They will discount it for you to keep it. I’ve gotten the package with the website steam for over 50% off

  42. MY EXPERIENCE WITH DIRECTV. I had Sunday ticket last year. I was told I had to cancel it prior to the SuperBowl if I didn`t want to have it automatically renew for the following season. I did call and cancel. Of course last week Directv started billing me for it again. I called and they said they DID have a record of me calling to cancel. THEY BILLED ME ANYWAY ! Of course since I have autopay they were hoping I wouldnt notice it on my bill. What a scummy company! Oh yeah, this is all in addition to the 2 times their techs signed me up for Directv`s protection plan without my permission. 3 times in less than a year Directv tried stealing money from me. WATCH YOUR BILL FOLKS, THESE CRIMINALS WILL ROB YOU IF THEY GET THE CHANCE

  43. Guilt crazed Pats fans post their mantra in all sorts of threads. I’m just showing my amazement at how they wedge their “we didn’t cheat, we’re innocent, besides everyone does it,and anyway it didn’t affect the game” agenda everywhere.
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    And yet again … before “they” did, you did.

  44. floratiotime says:
    Aug 15, 2015 9:50 AM
    I was wondering if the guilt ridden Pats fans would post to this thread since it’s got nothing to do with their cheating … and it seems they have. Priceless.

    Says the guy making the first Patriots-related post here.

  45. 15 year consumer of DirecTV—they used have decent customer service, but not anymore—AND now they’re with AT&T—uuggghhh

  46. The question is whether the broadcast antitrust exemption, or any other exemption or defense, allows the league and the satellite provider to dominate the market and to dictate whether a fan must buy all out-of-market games in order to see just the one about which he or she cares.
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    More probable than not…..that the average fan is generally aware….that they have to purchase 95% more than what they want….so the NFL and DirecTV can make sales that didn’t exist in the first place.

  47. Had Ticket my first year of having DTV, got it free when signing up. Decided I didn’t want it last year, as my hometown team is, well, in my hometown. Streaming options are out there for fantasy players, which I used last year. This year my 2 year contract was up…told them I was cutting the cord unless they could convince me otherwise. Got free Ticket and all the movie channels for staying. I pay $85 buck a month. I guess I’m in the minority but I’ve had pretty decent experiences with them…

  48. I used AT&T for Internet service 5 yrs back. It was the worst experience I’ve ever had with any company offering any similar type of service. As an out of market NFL fan, I’m locked in. With this new purchase, I’m looking for things to get much worse. Hopefully, I am wrong.

  49. Get rid of the ticket. Charge 3.99 per game(The games out of area) same process as when you want to watch a movie on Sat TV.

    Click the button for which game you want.

    The NFL will make billions. And everyone can watch what game they want – without a package.

  50. the problem isn’t direct tv, it is the nfl. i have had direct tv for 17 yrs without any problems, except those dictated to direct tv by the NFL and NHL.
    for example, even though our regional sports networks in rochester are sny, msg, and yes from nyc, the leagues let teams in buffalo dictate what games can/not be seen here. since tv is now digital, the signals fall off a cliff around 50 miles. yet, hockey games from nyc get blacked out here by buffalo. when nhl network has hockey night in canada on, if the sabres are playing we get blacked out of the canadian telecast ( which is best) and are forced to watch the buffalo shills/amateur hour telecast.
    just this past friday, the NFL blacked out a REPLAY of a Jets game on sny at 10pm to force you to watch the same replay on nfl network at 5am!!!!!! you would think that the ticket would include preseason games live also, since they force season ticket holders for the regular season to also buy preseason tickets.

    what is REALLY needed is a federal law that defibnes the home market for any pro sports team as the county in which the arena/stadium is located , and any other counties that are adajacent to that county. pro sports teams should NOT be allowed to control media viewing by people who live over 60 miles away. buffalo should not be allowed to control what people who live in rochester, syracuse, utica, elmira , etc can see on tv.

    Unilt you get the legal definintion of the home market changed, the blackout problem will continue no matter if it is ota tv, cable , satellite, or internet streaming. call your congressional rep and senator and demand a change. after all, taxpayers are paying for those arenas and stadiums. even when dallas or jets/giants pay for the stadium, you pay for the surrounding infrastructure and they borrow money using tax-exempt bonds. so, you subsidize it anyways.

  51. The standalone Sunday Ticket streaming service sadly isn’t available on my street which I think outrageous considering it’s a service offered through the internet, and I’m sure as hell not going to subscribe to Direct TV and contribute to this damn monopoly that NFL and them have on Sunday games and pay absurd amounts of money.

    What really frustrated me about this now is because of this that I decided to just go with Game Rewind last year and put up with watching games the next day, but even that seems to have gone out the window for me. They reworked Audio Pass and Game rewind into one product called “Game Pass” and jacked the prices up 100$, with absolutely no subscription options besides a 7-day trial, and no new intriguing features.

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