Brady willing to accept reduced suspension for failure to cooperate

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Because the NFL has insisted on Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and the NFL Players Association agreeing to a laundry list of terms and concessions before discussing a reduction to his four-game suspension, the question of a reduced suspension has not yet become relevant.

If/when it ever does, Brady would be open to accepting a suspension for failing to cooperate with the NFL’s investigation of the football-deflation incident.

That’s the report from Adam Schefter of ESPN, and it’s accurate. It would be, as PFT understands it, a one-game suspension, with no admission of any responsibility for knowledge of or involvement in a scheme to deflate footballs.

Some will now insist that Brady’s willingness to consider a one-game suspension means that he’s guilty of something, if not guilty of everything. The truth is that accepting a one-game suspension brings closure to a situation that, without settlement, will linger — whether that happens through an appeal of Judge Berman’s decision in the case or through a decision to send the case back for a second appeal hearing.

Parties with strong opposing views on points of law find a way to work out their differences all the time. The public nature of this dispute makes it more important for both sides to find a way to save face. For Brady, taking a one-game suspension for not cooperating but not admitting responsibility for football deflation gives him a potentially acceptable middle ground.

More importantly, it makes him seem reasonable before Judge Berman, at a time when the NFL’s “agree to all of these things and then we’ll talk about a reduced suspension” position seems a little unreasonable. In a case that can go either way when it’s time for a judge who is pushing for settlement to issue a ruling, it’s alway good to be the side perceived as being reasonable.

236 responses to “Brady willing to accept reduced suspension for failure to cooperate

  1. Not sure I trust anything coming from ESPN.

    Read last night that Brady is adamant that he will accept no suspension – nor should he.

    Failure to cooperate gets a 1 game suspension, since when?

    Stick to your guns, TB.

  2. The guy didn’t even fail to cooperate though. The league has no right to demand his phone. He knew this and the league knew this. Wells even described him as cooperative in his report. What a joke league. Brady shouldn’t settle for a single game. The league screwed itself with it’s unfair disciplinary practices and is trying to coerce Brady into maintaining the status quo.

  3. The key phrase in ESPN’s report is “per league sources”. How many times during Deflategate has the NFL leaked false info to pain the perception of guilt? And fools keep buying it. Read what Scott Zolak said on CSNNE about Brady. I think he’s a little better source for Brady’s stance than “league sources” are.

  4. No way Brady would sign off on the Wells Report ever.

    Some of the biggest idiots on this board wouldn’t even acknowledge the Literary Musings of Pash and the Stache.

  5. So he’s admitting he failed to cooperate. Obviously you fail to cooperate if you have something to hide. Wanted to spell that out for Pats fans who are unable/unwilling to connect the dots.

    Goodell needs to drop the demand he confess to his sins and give him his 2 games for failing to cooperate. Then and only then can we move on.

  6. He and his team are cheats. That’s fact. That’s truth. Legacy & dynasty have asterisks and stains on them. Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact

  7. Spin it all you want. Brady wanted the balls with less PSI. His guys took care of him. This is all about saving the legacy and nothing about reality…..

  8. I’m surprised he’s even willing to take a suspension, especially since “failure to cooperate” in the past with other players has been nothing but a minor fine.

  9. Adam Schefter is Goodell & Vincents boyToy…now that Mort has no credibility…Schefty boy leaking the leaks or NFL’s wishes…

    Keep on dreaaming…

    How much should Mort be suspended for conduct determinal to journalism?
    Hope NE & Brady sue to heck outta these 2 clowns & ESPN

  10. Surprise, surprise. Yet another well timed BS leak from “league sources”. Burn it to the ground and rebuild. Time for a class action lawsuit from the millions of fed up football fans that want their frigging NFL back.

  11. Hahahahaha this is the most ridiculous thing that has ever happened. Who actually takes the NFL seriously? Idiots that’s who.

    The league failed to prove anything happened. Failed to prove Tom Brady was involved.

    The colts and ravens complained about losing and the league hammered the pats over it. Because…. Integrity.

    Brady wants this sham to end so he can play a game. The league sued Brady to accept the finding of the wells report because the wells report is a big pile of steaming crap.

    People who scream cheater at Brady are children who want to blame others for their teams own failings

  12. Sounds like more of a win for Tom, as his failure to cooperate is in less question that what actually happened.

    But please, whatever it takes to let it end. I want this to be over while I’m still drawing breath.

  13. This is fascinating, if true.

    On the one hand, the NFL would have to be crazy (IMO) not to accept it. They wouldn’t have any more litigation. No more embarrassing issues where their press releases are contradicted by legal filings. No worry about bad precedent in a court case. And the people that believe that Brady did something wrong can point to the one game suspension.

    On the other hand, maybe this is just Brady’s team offering it, knowing the NFL will reject it. If that’s the case, then this helps Brady. If the reports are accurate, and the NFL hasn’t moved from their demands- given what we’ve heard, the NFL is, by far, the unreasonable party. It would be hard for that not to play into Berman’s decision on a background level. Of course, there is always an appeal to the 2d CoA, but that’s a long time from now, and it’s not like stringing this out has helped the NFL.

  14. Accepting a one game for failing to cooperate begs the question: why did you fail to cooperate in the first place?

    Maybe because you are guilty?

    But no, that can’t be because so many many commentators have Brady’s back. How could they be wrong?

  15. He and his team are cheats. That’s fact. That’s truth. Legacy & dynasty have asterisks and stains on them. Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact
    _______________

    And you know this how?

    Did Jerry Rice not say he used stick’um?

  16. I thought Brady did not know he would be punished for failing to cooperate? Why would he accept punishment for that now? Oh, that’s right, as means to attempt to clear his name which unfortunately is forever tarnished as a CHEATER.

  17. Nice job NFLPA. Get it out there using dirty NFL tactics by leaking information to show you are willing to cooperate in the settlement talks leaving the NFL looking more and more like stubborn mules. Judge will look at who’s willing to settle and rule for them.

  18. Bostonian13

    It was already reported months ago that if the 4 game suspension were to stick then the ring ceremony would be pushed back to week 6, which is the Jets at NE. So if it’s one game the ceremony would probably be the Pats second home game, which is the Jags.

  19. Scott Zolak (ex patriots QB) was just on the radio yesterday. He talked to Brady yesterday and said that there’s no chance Brady will settle for anything that includes him signing off on the Well Report or taking any suspension time.

    ESPN looks like they are being fed another line by the NFL again. There’s no integrity in that site’s reporting.

  20. Everyone wants to feel special. Everyone wants to have faith in others. Everyone wants to believe in fairytales, happy endings and have all bad interactions with others explained. It is easier to sit in denial with your delusions and pray God will intervene, not realizing he has. He gave you commonsense and intuition, but you didn’t like how it made you feel. This is what true mental illness really is: Following your gut instinct through hell because you want to prove you are right, either to yourself or others. You sacrifice choosing to do right, in order to avoid pain. However, you don’t realize that you have been in pain for a really long time and believed this was how happiness felt.”
    ― Shannon L. Alder

  21. Patriots: “we believe league executives are acting dishonestly and with malicious intent. Please include that in your investigation.
    Wells: “Okay, I will investigate.”
    Patriots: “Did you find anything?”
    NFL: “objection, attorney client privilege”
    Wells: “I guess that’s privileged”

  22. He should serve the suspension in the first game, and then save the ring ceremony for the next time they play the Colts or Ravens at home.

  23. iammrbinky says: Aug 19, 2015 9:03 AM

    So he’s admitting he failed to cooperate. Obviously you fail to cooperate if you have something to hide. Wanted to spell that out for Pats fans who are unable/unwilling to connect the dots.
    ==========================

    Really??? Right to privacy doesn’t factor in? there have been internet rumblings of marital issues with Mr and Mrs Brady. That may or m ay not be true, but since it wasn’t reported by ESPN I believe it has some merit. Ever think that Brady might want to keep that kind of info (specifically the rumors of pretty nasty text exchanges between Mr and Mrs) from the press?

    To take it a step further, if you and your wife are strolling through security at the airport, and the TSA demands that your wife disrobe in front of everyone, because they “suspect she is guilty of something”, you are saying she absolutely must get naked, right there, with no right to privacy, because if she refuses it means she is guilty of terrorism… Got it

  24. ibelievebrady: key phrase in ESPN’s report is “per league sources”

    What don’t you trust the NFL? ESPN? They are good honest people just trying to do their job…..

    What is WRONG with you…?

    8^)

  25. cornhusker44 says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:03 AM

    He and his team are cheats. That’s fact. That’s truth. Legacy & dynasty have asterisks and stains on them. Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact
    ______________________
    Joe Montana has already admitted to cheating, as has Jerry Rice. Fact

  26. Its hilarious that people don’t understand what this process is about. It has nothing to do with whether brady did something or knew somthing or did not. You can believe what you want concerning that and that has nothing to do with what is in front of the judge.

    The judge is only looking at whether the nfl followed a process that complies with the CBA and whether, based on that, they were justified and had the authority to penalize brady as much as they did.

    The judge is clearly leaning towards the fact the nfl did not have the authority to be as harsh as they were when he continually pointed out all of the flaws in the Wells report. He wants the sides to settle and he clear would also put the same kind of pressure on brady if he wasn’t willing to give up something.

    Brady appears to be willing to give up something here. The nfl does not appear to be budging at all. Brady shows give, the nfl doesn’t and the judge is much more likely to rule in Brady’s favor. Very smart tactic.

  27. It finally PROVES he is guilty.
    You dont admit guilt, unless your guilty.
    I think it shows that Brady realizes that Goodell has the ammo and all the leverage to hammer him legally.
    The CBA clearly gives the Commish the power to suspend those who CHEAT and damage the integrity of the games.
    Brady realizes he can not win and is desperate.
    Kraft realized he could nt win, and backed away like a coward with his tail tucked up under him

  28. I loathe Goodell….trash, but I feel Brady was hiding something and did fail to cooperate. The phone issue is pretty questionable to me. 2 game suspension and be done with it.

  29. Success breeds a certain level of disdain. Of course, the idea that Brady is somehow not worthy of his professional achievements is either delusion or a fantasy bred by hate.

    Like Brady or not, he is and will always be remembered as one of the greats in the game.

  30. I had to read this article twice but I think I get it now, it’s absolutely meaningless. Brady’s camp leaked something to Schefter and the nabobs are running with it.

  31. not an admission of guilt at all, in my opinion. if he accepts 1 game, it’s him being the better person and making this go away. tom is team first always has been always will be

  32. Adam Schefter cites “league sources” so take this with a giant grain of salt.

    This might just be another NFL leak to ESPN to make Brady look desperate/bad.

  33. cornhusker44 says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:03 AM
    He and his team are cheats. That’s fact. That’s truth. Legacy & dynasty have asterisks and stains on them. Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact

    Bill Walsh was the GM of the 49ers when they lost draft picks and had to pay almost a million dollars.

    Visiting teams headsets went out all the time when playing in SF.

    Jerry Rice admitted to using stickem after it was banned. Who would also benefit from that? Oh yeah, the QB.

    Montana himself said the O lineman would put a vasoline on there jerseys

    But yeah they never “cheated”

  34. The Fool says “I trust Goodell, Why would he LIE to us?”

    The Naïve says “US Constitution? Due Process? – What’s that mean?”

    The Arrogant says “Science? Don’t talk to me about Science!

    The Unjust says “If I can’t beat them on the field – Slander, Lie and have the News Media on my side.”

    The Lawyer says ” $5million – Count me in.”

    The LIAR says “No Sting Operation” – “Independent Impartial Investigation” – “The Phone was required”

  35. lol these little tiny sheeple in the comments section on this blog site just continually eat this up.

    how many times do you need to be lied to before you check yourselves?

    The sky is actually lime green, its tinted blue by photosynthesis.

    Water is actually black jelly, our brains don’t want to believe that so it tells our eyes to show it as transparent.

  36. If this story is at all accurate, what happens the next time a player “fails to cooperate”? Does he get the same suspension as Brady?

    I can envision a scenario, where a player in the future is in deep trouble, but he knows that if he comes clean, he will get less of a suspension than if he keeps his mouth shut.

    I can absolutely understand why the league wouldn’t want to accept this.

  37. “Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact”

    I guess you never heard of Jerry Rice and sticum. Fact.

    Given how dramatically rice’s catches improved the year he began using and years later its really very interesting to speculate how successful the 49rs would have been during the years thier top reciever had been so….”sure handed”

  38. Brady will take the one game as long as he doesn’t have to admit he was involved and covering it up. He will then say the 1 game was for destroying his cell phone which was his ignorance and not guilt. We all know the truth, even you blind homer Patriot fans!

  39. Are we supposed to believe that the NFLPA is willing to organize a player’s strike if the suspension isn’t reduced? I say offer him nothing. What Brady wants or is willing to accept is irrelevant. That’s how punishment works.

  40. Hey Judge Berman, how about we call the two ball boys in to testify under oath, and get this thing over with.

    If they admit Brady was involved, Tom gets four games. If they say he wasn’t, he gets to play.

    Lets get right to the truth, instead of having these lawyers bend it.

  41. “..Brady willing to accept reduced suspension for failure to cooperate…”

    Wasn’t the whole four game suspension handed out specifically FOR his failure to cooperate?

  42. In all this, what has to go down as the most mysterious is how Jastremskey and McNally have dropped off the face of the planet.

    They do not seem involved in the appeals. If I were a judge, I would put them under oath, with the penalty of perjury, and just ask them … were you monkeying with the balls and did Tom know.

    And all the hundreds of reporters and bloggers who cover the NFL, wouldn’t one ore more be interviewing these guys to get their version of the story. I have not even heard a reporter say he tried and failed to get an interview.

    Makes my head spin.

  43. Brady knows that the NFL won’t take this deal. The NFL needs Brady to accept the fiction that is the Wells report. If they don’t, they are still open to a defamation suit. And whether Brady would win such a suit or not is irrelevant to the people in the NFL front office, as it would certainly expose them, individually, to too much embarrassment.

  44. Brilliant move by Brady’s legal team.

    The NFL won’t budge, so by leaking this AFTER TB leaves town, you can get free points. He doesn’t have to accept anything now, but he looks like the reasonable party and the NFL looks worse in the judges eyes.

  45. Haters you’re pathetic. For one this is espn (huge joke). Two let’s paint this picture for you. Brady did not give up his cell because he lawyers said he didn’t have to and because he didn’t think he would get into trouble for that. However he gave up phone records and emails that were leaked publicly. The haters probably failed to read that. Thirdly all this stained stuff. Tell that to Canton when he’s voted on first ballot. Oh and if I were you I would want him suspended too because we all know you and your sorry ass teams are scared.

  46. Very magnanimous on Brady’s part. Judge Berman will not look kindly on the NFL passing on this settlement opportunity.

    Those of us who want to see the NFL subjected to discovery and cross examination under oath will lament such a decision but Brady’s coaches and teammates will appreciate him doing what he can to get back on the field.

    Deflategate remains the biggest hoax in sports history.

  47. Brady isn’t accepting a thing. 🙂

    Sorry Patriot Hater! Sure looks like your limp wristed skirt wearing wuss team will have to beat the GOAT on the field 🙂

    #CryPatriotHater
    #Cry

  48. As a NE fan, i must say Brady needs to up his cheating game so he cab live up to the “serial cheater” the media claims him to be.

    2 SB lost
    Only played in 6 SB since 2001.

    If I was a QB with The Magnificent TB12 set of skills and a “serial cheater” i would have turned the NFL into madden.

    SB MVP, MVP, OPY, All Pro every single year.

  49. I would not agree to reducing the suspension. He failed to cooperate and destroyed evidence. Plus with the patriots past of cheating there is no way I would agree to reduce anything for Brady. He is guilty. And I hope his butterface wife leaves him too

  50. mrbigass says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:04 AM
    Spin it all you want. Brady wanted the balls with less PSI. His guys took care of him. This is all about saving the legacy and nothing about reality…..

    Then why did the Wells report have a text from Brady telling JJ to print out the rules in reference to the PSI levels and bring them to the refs? Life they are doing something wrong why would they want to draw attention to themselves? Why would they want to show the refs the rules?

  51. The haters, instead of praising Brady for working to resolve this nonsense, will try to use the resolution as a scarlet letter.

    O course, Hester Prynne was the protagonist in the The Scarlet Letter and Roger Chillingworth was the antagonist.

  52. correction:

    If this story is at all accurate, what happens the next time a player “fails to cooperate”? Does he get the same suspension as Brady?

    I can envision a scenario, where a player in the future is in deep trouble, but he knows that if he comes clean, he will get MORE of a suspension than if he keeps his mouth shut.

    I can absolutely understand why the league wouldn’t want to accept this.

  53. Though a majority of people feel he is guilty as sin and should do the four game suspension this whole thing is getting very old and has to be settled once and for all so just do it. Brady will always go down in history right next to OJ Simpson in that everybody and their brother not a Pats fan knows he did the dirty deed but nobody proved it satisfactorally.

  54. With admission of guilt, absolutely, reduce it to one game. Without an admission of guilt I would settle for 4 games suspension. What Brady fails to realize is that he is not fighting the guilt of his actions, he is fighting the lousy CBA his crummy union accepted. That is what gave Goodell this power, that is what this is all about; POWER. Sorry Tom, admit guilt and take responsibility and the NFL will cut your suspension, maybe even eliminate it but if you don’t want to accept responsibility, then why should the NFL accept your proposal. People think the NFL cares whether this drags on, they don’t, because it is Brady and the Patriots who are suffering the longer this drags out. Don’t accept the guilt and take 4 games, accept it and take 1 or none but you cant cheat and then demand the NFL do as you please. Perfect example of a wealthy, snob who has totally lost touch with reality.

  55. This whole thing is so dumb. As a Pats fan its aggrivating at this point. Shouldve been taken care of weeks ago. This is a personal vendetta or something like that for Goodell, but Kraft took it in the keister by paying the fine and losing the draft pick. And that’s why I’m mad.

  56. This is a good PR move. However, it says to me that there is no imminent settlement. It says hey, look at me Judge and public. I’m ready to move on….but Czar Goodell must fight on. Another W for NFLPA.

  57. Brady can offer to accept a 1 game sitdown, but Goodell will just laugh at him.
    Roger has the CHEATER by the sac, and he will not let him off the hook.
    4 games, that is the punishment, nothing less.
    GUILTY, Roger knows it, and America knows it
    Roger OWNS Brady, just like he proved he OWNS Kraft

  58. I don’t see the billionaires giving up 75% and getting nothing in return. The last time you heard a billionaire admit to something wrong, he then came back and said he never should have done it. That was Kraft, obviously.

    The biggest problem with everybody’s opinion here is that you somehow think you know what a billionaire “should” do. No, you don’t. Billionaires win. It’s what they do. They would destroy your life for no other reason than to brag about it at the country club.

  59. Hey brainless wonders out there, Why do you think the NFL is so adamant that Brady accept the Wells report and admit to ” Something”?

    The NFL is desperately trying to protect themselves from the DEFAMATION LAWSUIT and THEFT by DECEPTION lawsuits that will soon crash down on them.

  60. Iknowitall says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:17 AM
    It finally PROVES he is guilty.


    So you admit that he hasn’t been proven guilty thus far.

    Well, that’s a step forward.

    In the real world, people who have already been punished for something they didn’t do are often willing to accept a lesser punishment as part of a plea bargain. In the current case, Brady would be admitting that he destroyed the phone. That’s not exactly news, is he? I don’t see how you make the logical leap from him admitting that to thinking that somebody tampered with footballs.

    Let’s not forget that the science is at best inconclusive about the question of tampering. The Ted Wells argument is, literally
    a) Walt Anderson was wrong in his recollection of which gauge he used
    b) Thus we’re going to use the lower numbers (from the wrong gauge), which are all 0.35-0.45 psi lower
    c) Oh, Brady’s guy must have deflated the balls 0.3 psi

    It’s really a stupid, stupid accusation. Pretend the wrong numbers are the correct numbers and base an accusation on the difference between the gauge measurements.

    That so many people continue to cling to the NFL’s case shows just how irrational people can be when holding onto a belief that’s important to hold onto.

  61. Guess it don’t matter what Brady is suspended for. The Patriots as a team has already accepted punishment for cheating or they would have fought it. It shows they admit that there was some wrong doing on their part. I just feel bad for the low paid ball boys, no one is defending them and millionaire Brady is worming his way out of it.

  62. Brady should only accept one Pre Season Game suspension and that he accepts as EVIDENCE all the FACTS, SCIENCE, testimony and the statements and actions of Goodell & the NYC office given throughout this entire ordeal.

  63. FoozieGrooler says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:27 AM
    Goodell needs to tack on one more game every week that Brady doesn’t admit his guilt…

    Torquemada would be proud.

    It’s a sign of a flawed investigation when it relies on threats of punishment to extract ‘confessions”. The Inquisition did this. The Witch hunters in Salem did this.

    The Fifth Amendment exists to protect us from this aberration of justice. Why do you hate America?

  64. Golly gee, I guess the absolutely meaningless four game fine that one writer has been pushing for weeks is not going to cut it.

    Of course, Brady’s current offer is a joke as well. This is about Brady cheating, his failure to cooperate is secondary. Brady would do anything to attempt to clear his name. Unfortunately, the word cheater will be tied to Brady forever.

    No Settlement! Got 4, should have been 16.

  65. “cornhusker44 says:Aug 19, 2015 9:03 AM

    He and his team are cheats. That’s fact. That’s truth. Legacy & dynasty have asterisks and stains on them. Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact ”

    I would suggest a trip to the Pats Hall of Fame in Foxboro. The four trophies are there. I looked close. No asterisks…footnotes….just trophies.

  66. And yeah, we need to stop listening to “league sources.” Didn’t they tell us last week that there was going to be witness testimony today?

    “League sources” lie because there is no downside to them lying. Journalists keep running back to them for new quotes.

  67. Personally I think Brady had some knowledge about the deflated balls and no one is going to change my belief. With that being said the league is looking more and more foolish by the day. At this rate Brady is going to walk away with no punishment and the league will look like idiots.

  68. Those infamous “league sources” leaks …… the ones that have proven to be soooooo accurate, lol.

    Without a doubt, Gooddell is putting this out there to paint Brady in a corner, publicity wise, where the public BELIEVES Brady offered this, and expects him to live up to this lie!

    Why would Brady accept a single game’s suspension, when the NFL can’t show proof he did a single thing wrong, INCLUDING cooperation???? And why we he accept one game for “lack of cooperation” when they didn’t suspend Favre for the very same charge????

    This smacks of another lie being leaked by Gooddell’s “league sources”.

  69. How generous of Tommy to let the NFL reduce his suspension by three games with no admission of guilt! Hilarious.

    The only way I’d accept even a one-game reduction is if he totally comes clean and admits he’s a cheating dirtbag, with a sincere, tearful apology.

  70. Eh, even Independence Wells acknowledged that Brady was cooperative, and he’s the rootinest, tootinest, collusionist critter this side of the Pecos.

  71. NFL should just accept this offer if it is true.

    Firstly, it makes this go away. It needs to go away.

    Secondly, four games was always excessive based upon suspicion only (even if strong suspision).

    Thirdly, the public will assume a degree of guilt attached to the acceptance of a suspension. That will vary from fan to fan but it will get spun by both sides anyway.

    Fourthly, it makes this go away. It really, really needs to just go away!

  72. Sorry Tom, admit guilt and take responsibility and the NFL will cut your suspension, maybe even eliminate it but if you don’t want to accept responsibility, then why should the NFL accept your proposal.

    Why should Brady “admit to” a fiction?

    He’d be better off taking a suspension and then suing for defamation. The entire process has been a case study in character defamation. The NFL’s main motivation here is to preclude a defamation lawsuit. They don’t care about air pressure at all, and they know that they are the ones who built this accusation out of whole cloth.

    The demand that a person “admit responsibilty” is out of place for a settlement negotiation. For Brady, it would constitute a step backward. The purpose of the fight is to clear his name. It’s not about the suspension. There’s no way Brady would accept it. The NFL knows that, and their continued insistence on this point shows that they have no interest in mediation whatsoever.

    From a legal standpoint, that’s fine if they think they’re going to win in court. But if they’d rather lose than give any ground on this one point, that should tell us something about the perverse motivations going on.

  73. Late last night Brady’s camp strongly denied this story. I’ve lost count on the number of times Schefter & ESPN have been wrong about this.

  74. Tee hee 🙂 Patriot Hater proves again and again the saying is so true…denial really ISN’T just a river in Egypt!

    🙂

  75. If it is a NFL leak, it does show in a way how hopeless the NFL is. This controversy is hurting the league’s credibility. Legions of lawyers including John Dowd, who prosecuted Pete Rose, consider this case a farce. In fact. no one who is a credible labor or sports lawyer considers the NFL’s finding of facts and penalty process anything but a disaster. Judge Berman even seem to indicate that during his questioning.

    The worst outcome is for this mess to continue. Berman’s “worst case for both parties” threat is likely nullifying Goodell’s decision and the appointment of an independent arbitrator. In these cases, the NFL has lost. However the drama will drag on for months.

    Brady falling on his sword and agreeing to accept a one game suspension without admitting fault beyond failure to cooperate would be a godsend for the league. The NFL, on the other hand, has actually moved away from a compromise and tried to criminalize the proceedings by making Brady admit that he had perjured himself.

  76. So in other words, pretty boy Tom thought he could get away with failing to cooperate. Now that it apparently seems that he can’t get away with it, he’ll “accept” a reduced suspension?

    Sounds like a spoiled brat who threatened to hold his breath until he turned blue, and then when turned blue and didn’t get his way, admitted that, yeah, he actually did have something to hide.

  77. At this rate Brady is going to walk away with no punishment and the league will look like idiots

    “Look like”? 🙂

  78. “tavisteelersfan says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:26 AM

    In all this, what has to go down as the most mysterious is how Jastremskey and McNally have dropped off the face of the planet.

    They do not seem involved in the appeals. If I were a judge, I would put them under oath, with the penalty of perjury, and just ask them … were you monkeying with the balls and did Tom know.

    And all the hundreds of reporters and bloggers who cover the NFL, wouldn’t one ore more be interviewing these guys to get their version of the story. I have not even heard a reporter say he tried and failed to get an interview.

    Makes my head spin.”

    It’s a fair point, Tavis. Just carry out your thinking a few more steps. The reason they have not talked is they are likely bound by an NDA (like many of us have to sign as terms of employment.) They would be subject to prosecution if they broke the terms. Also, they could lose any remuneration given to them as part of their termination settlement. Judge Berman could compel them to talk I suppose but that would open up a whole new set of law books as they say. But yes, ideally get the two them and Don Yee on the stand, under oath, with no limitations on testimony. Probably clears this up quickly.

  79. It amazes me how Pats fans really have talked themselves into thinking that Brady has done “nothing wrong”. A 1 game suspension would be a slap on the hand at this point. If they could take it they should,but it’s probably not going to happen.

  80. “How bout just retiring?”

    Said the wussy fans of 31 other teams tired of losing to the Pats.

  81. The trolls are out!! Haha… You guys crack me up every time! How about go do your job at whatever you do and quit trolling PFT! Brady was under oath denying any knowledge of anything…. He just wants to focus on football. It’s that focus that makes him the GOAT! Get over it people and deal with it.

  82. “cornhusker44 says:Aug 19, 2015 9:03 AM

    He and his team are cheats. That’s fact. That’s truth. Legacy & dynasty have asterisks and stains on them. Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact ”
    ____________________________________

    Fact – judge Berman asked the NFl atty’s if there was any direct evidence of Brady cheating. The answer: nope.

    Fact- Jerry Rice admitted to using stickum during his playing days. Who did he play for? Please remind us.

  83. As someone that thinks Brady cheated, if this story is true I think the NFL should take the deal and everybody move on. No clear cut winner or loser, it is a compromise that lets everybody save face. I can live with that to get this issue over with before the season starts.

  84. canedaddy says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:47 AM
    How generous of Tommy to let the NFL reduce his suspension by three games with no admission of guilt! Hilarious.

    The only way I’d accept even a one-game reduction is if he totally comes clean and admits he’s a cheating dirtbag, with a sincere, tearful apology

    __________________________________________________________________________________

    HE did come clean. The NFL are the ones that have failed to be honest.

    Did you even read the Wells Report? Did you read the appeal? Have you been paying attention?

    After all that has been released, we still have feeble minded people like canedaddy that don’t want to (or are incapable of) thinking on their own.

    Sorry Canedaddy – your team is going to lose AGAIN this year to the Dynasty that is the New England Patriots and to the G.O.A.T. Tom Brady.

  85. heroofthisparish says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:53 AM

    (snip)

    Thirdly, the public will assume a degree of guilt attached to the acceptance of a suspension. That will vary from fan to fan but it will get spun by both sides anyway.

    (snip)

    —————————————————————-
    —————————————————————-

    I think no matter what happens, the Patriot Haters will ALWAYS assume that he is guilty. They are sick of losing to us and it kills them.
    We are just as guilty to an extent ….. look how many years the Yankees kicked our asses.

  86. We all know by now that the CBA was poorly negotiated by the NFLPA and gave Goodell a huge amount of power when it comes to discipline. That’s on the NFLPA.

    What’s at stake is just how far can take that power.

    Will Goodell be allowed to punish arbitrarily, with no accounting for precedent or for the actual punishments established in writing in the NFL rules?

    Will Goodell be allowed to punish without any concrete evidence of a crime?

    Will Goodell be allowed to change what a player is being punished for, when it seems that the first set of charges isn’t sticking?

    Will Goodell be allowed define not admitting guilt as “failure to cooperate”?

    Will Goodell continue to be allowed to leak confidential info to the press, often containing misinformation or outright lies. without consequence?

    Before you answer, consider that next time, it might not be Brady or the Patriots. It might be YOUR team or superstar being subjected to this.

  87. The NFL has Brady and they are not budging. He will do the full 4 game suspension. OR…he can admit cheating and take a 2 game punishment.

    But he’s going to be found a cheater either way. His legacy and all those championships are tied to a cheating coach and a cheating quarterback.

  88. Love some of you putting words into Brady’s mouth. Not cooperating by turning over his phone does not = guilt. Sorry…

    However, as a Pats fan I am sure he had the equipment managers ensuring the balls stay at 12.5 psi after the refs check them, or inferring as much.

    The travesty! The horror! How can he be so vile and dishonest!

    Seriously, this is what you morons are hanging your hat on. That he had the balls checked after the refs logged them to ensure they are at 12.5…If that is cheating to be sure the balls remain in spec on the low end, then well, you got him and the Pats. You must feel so much better. Competitive edge my Wells.

  89. “at least 100% of people with an IQ over 85 will see it as an admission of guilt.”

    Problems with this statement:
    1) “at least 100%…” not only implies, but clearly indicates, that more than 100% of people could see it that way. Unfortunately, it is mathematically impossible for more than 100% of people to do anything.
    2) It assumes that IQ tests are important… at all; the fact, however, is that it is really just an indication of how “intelligent” you are compared to the rest of the population – it’s an average. If EVERYONE is dumb, but you’re slightly less dumb, you’d be considered a genius when taking an IQ test. That doesn’t mean you’ll go and publish “The General Theory of Relativity”… it just means you likely won’t die doing something incredibly stupid.
    3) It was made under the assumption that ANY “admission of guilt” would qualify as the type of “admission of guilt” you want; i.e., that he deflated footballs in order to gain a competitive advantage. The truth, however, is that he’d be admitting to “not cooperating” with the investigation.

    It’s almost like “over 100%” of the ideas that you argued in that statement are erroneous.

  90. Another NFL leak to ESPN. A way for the league to show Brady accepts SOME guilt. At least this reporter will retract the story if it proves to be false, like so many others.

    Funny how the league looks good in all the leaked information, but looks terrible in all the facts that are revealed.

    The problem is that most of the public, like many of the posters on this site, remember the leak, and not the facts.

  91. Just wait till the Patriots drop another stack of emails and one of them is the order from the NFL* to suspend the ball boys. 🙂 It’s coming might as well face reality!
    🙂

  92. Even though the Haters are still in delusional denial, with Judge Berman releasing the transcripts over the protest of Goodell and the NFL, EVERYONE now knows the degree to which Goodell has lied, leaked, and completely misrepresented the facts in an abomination of justice

    If a one game suspension for Brady doing EXACTLY what Goodell himself did – as Goodell REFUSED to give up HIS phone in the Mueller Investigation – is what stops this from dragging on for another few more YEARS, then I think the NFL and all NFL fans owe Brady a debt of gratitude for taking a bullet for all the NFLPA members on OTHER FANS teams as Brady’s trying to stop Goodell (and I think has) fromt doing what they did to him, to other NFLPA members (specifically fabricating a scandal so Goodell can boost his popularity among the gullible)

    But the NFL would have to likely publicly affirm that Brady did nothing wrong.

    Having him take a non-cooperation suspension and have Goodell stand there and say his JOKE of a fabricated scandal was real is simply not acceptable

    But Goodell has now been caught in a lie and is likely going to deny this was a fabrication until he goes to his grave – and jealous, gullible fans of 31 other teams will always believe him despite what the reality and facts of this case are

  93. I would love to see Tom Brady accept the full suspension if and only if the NFL admits the Wells report was a farce and that they have no right to suspend for failure to cooperate to personal information requests.

  94. Oh there’s no doubt about what the NFL* is doing with this leak. When Berman throws out Brady’s suspension they can say “see we were right he was even willing to take a suspension! He only got off on a technicality!”

    All intelligent football fans of course are smart enough to see that for that it is…spin and lies from the NFL*.

    🙂

  95. It is pathetic how most Patriot fans refuse to accept the reality that Brady lied and cheated. Where there is smoke there is fire!!! While it would be difficult to prove in a court of law, must Non Patriot fans can realize that in the court of public opinion, he is not innocent!

  96. folkcrusader says:
    Aug 19, 2015 10:00 AM
    “tavisteelersfan says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:26 AM

    “In all this, what has to go down as the most mysterious is how Jastremskey and McNally have dropped off the face of the planet”

    I would add that Wells himself down played their testimony by leaving it out the report. Wells only focused on the moniker of “the deflator” and deliberately left his testimony out of the report – thus – making him less relevant.

    You can’t blame Brady for following the appeal process which must focus on process and not fact finding. What can these two gentlemen testify as it pertains to the bias of the arbitrator and the process? nothing.

  97. “You don’t admit guilt unless you’re guilty”

    WRONG! How many times have we heard that the so-called ‘murderer’ “admitted” guilt?

  98. Schefter’s also reporting that the NFL’s own official Super Bowl footballs warn that the internal bladders may not be airtight and that inclement weather should be avoided.

    This is such a clown show.

  99. I think Brady did have something to do with the deflated footballs and I also think deflated footballs mean very little compared to someone bashing their girlfriend in the face and dragging her out the elevator on camera and all then lying about it.
    Ya Ray thought he could lie his way out not relizing he got caught on camera. Then he was very apologetic.

    1 lb of air out of a couple of footballs and we have this six month fiasco? Please.

  100. Brady > your QB
    Brady > any QB

    #FactsAreFacts
    #TruthIsTruth
    #TruthHurts
    #PatriotHaterCantHandleTheTruth

    🙂

  101. Why doesn’t Brady take a 2 game suspension due to him failing to cooperate with the NFL and say that he understands how the NFL and opposing fans may portray him not cooperating with an admission of guilt, however he maintains that he did nothing wrong.

    No admission of guilt but NFL gets “understanding” from Brady.

    Call it a day, let’s move on.

  102. folkcrusader says:
    Aug 19, 2015 10:00 AM

    It’s a fair point, Tavis. Just carry out your thinking a few more steps. The reason they [Jastremski and McNally] have not talked is they are likely bound by an NDA (like many of us have to sign as terms of employment.) They would be subject to prosecution if they broke the terms. Also, they could lose any remuneration given to them as part of their termination settlement.
    ________________________________________

    Let me suggest another reason for their silence. The NFL and the Wells Report have accused JJ and JM of cheating. If there was no tampering with the footballs as has been alleged, these guys are well-positioned to launch a defamation suit of their own. Since they are not public figures, it would be much easier for them to win such a suit than it would be for Tom Brady. And the payoff if they win? It would dwarf any termination settlement the Patriots may have offered.

    It would not surprise me at all if the NFL needs the Wells Report to be accepted in the hope that this might offer some protection from a JJ and JM defmaation suit.

  103. “Some will now insist that Brady’s willingness to consider a one-game suspension means that he’s guilty of something, if not guilty of everything”
    ————
    If by “some” you mean anyone with the ability of reason and common sense, then I agree.

  104. stldot says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:43 AM

    Guess it don’t matter what Brady is suspended for. The Patriots as a team has already accepted punishment for cheating or they would have fought it. It shows they admit that there was some wrong doing on their part. I just feel bad for the low paid ball boys, no one is defending them and millionaire Brady is worming his way out of it.
    _________________
    Exactly where did Kraft admit guilt in any part of his speech. He capitulated because he doesn’t have a process to fight punishments, and because any suit against the league risks him from being forced out.

  105. If Brady is now willing to admit that he failed “to cooperate with the NFL’s investigation of the football-deflation incident,” then he is obviously guilty of obstruction and deserves whatever punishment the NFL deems suitable. Goodell should suspend Brady for the entire season. You can’t just refuse to cooperate with the league and then expect the NFL to ignore your obstructionism or let it slide. To hell with Brady, Belichick and the Pats–they’re cheaters and have been for a long, long time. That whole organization is a stain on the NFL.

  106. Its not Brady and the NFL that need a settlement its US who need the settlement. Matter of fact since deflated footballs is such a big freeking issue, how about the NFL creating a new rule, depending on the temp outside, we move the point after to compensate for the density of the air for each game.

    I mean kickers are getting penalized by having to kick in thin versus thick air. If deflated balls are a problem that may alter the game, so is temp.

    My kicker in Dallas hits a 50 in perfect conditions and wins the game your kicker in Minny has to kick a 50 in wind and snow to win. I say move the ball closer to make it fairer.

    This is about as stupid as a football deflated one pound.

  107. Sounds like a good compromise to me. Everybody sign off and let’s get on with the season.

    #StopTalkingAboutFlatFootballs

  108. Everybody criticizing Goodell forgets a few years back when players were running amuck: drinking and driving, drugging, automobile accidents involving deaths, players getting shot under questionable circumstances. People were screaming that something had to be done. Enter Sheriff Goodell.

    While some of it is still going on, it has been tamped down. What needs to follow is a revamped NFL PR department and a much better selecitno of outside attorneys.

  109. I can’t wait for this to be over and the inevitable cheating the Patriots get caught at again. It’s like a sickness with them.

  110. He feels he is above the league and can dictate what suspension he receives. Uphold the suspension, clearly something was not on the up and up.

  111. The New England PatriNOTS.

    NOT champions! NOT honorable! NOT a dynasty!

    Proven CHEATERS.
    Proven LIARS.
    Proven PARIAHS.

  112. The real question (that all the Pqtriots homers will overlook) is Why didn’t he just cooperate with the investigation if he was Truly innocent?

    Someone who is truly innocent would do whatever it took to prove said innocence. That person would Not impede the investigation!

  113. Brady willing to accept one game suspension – that’s just great. Steelers are the luckiest team in the league. So much for the AFC North title being decided “on the field”.

    Go Ravens

  114. defscottyb says:
    Aug 19, 2015 10:24 AM

    Just the fact that Tom destroyed his cell phone proves he has something to hide.
    __________________________________

    Exactly! This story is about yet another leak attributed to the NFL league sources. If the story is true these sources would need intricate knowledge of the negotiations. Very few have this access. Brady had his private life to hide.

  115. cornhusker44 says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:03 AM

    He and his team are cheats. That’s fact. That’s truth. Legacy & dynasty have asterisks and stains on them. Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact
    ————————

    Jerry Rice needed to cheat. Fact

    Joe Montana was totally aware of the cheating. Fact

    Bill Walsh was the architect of the “broken” headset scam. Fact

    Myths busted.

    Stain and asterisk the 49er legacy and dynasty, if you please.

  116. disorien

    You can’t blame Brady for following the appeal process which must focus on process and not fact finding. What can these two gentlemen testify as it pertains to the bias of the arbitrator and the process? nothing.
    =============================

    it gets to article 15, did Godell come to his conclusion in a reasonable manner. if the wells report the nfl office edited fails the reasonable standard and the judge needs the ball boys and others to testify to allow Berman to conclude the standard was met, then it does add something

  117. v2787 says:
    Aug 19, 2015 10:41 AM
    If Brady is now willing to admit that he failed “to cooperate with the NFL’s investigation of the football-deflation incident,” then he is obviously guilty of obstruction and deserves whatever punishment the NFL deems suitable. Goodell should suspend Brady for the entire season. You can’t just refuse to cooperate with the league and then expect the NFL to ignore your obstructionism or let it slide. To hell with Brady, Belichick and the Pats–they’re cheaters and have been for a long, long time. That whole organization is a stain on the NFL.

    —————————————-

    Are you for real? Have you completely missed the part about how no NFL player has ever been suspended for refusing to cooperate in a disciplinary investigation? Yet in spite of this fact, you somehow think that Brady should be suspended for an ENTIRE SEASON for something no player has ever been suspended for?

  118. I explained this before from a very good source in the league…

    The other owners have gotten tired of Kraft’s and his team’s serial cheating.

    They looked the other way for a long time, trying to get Kraft to take care of it. But Kraft has the integrity of a scotch soaked used car salesman (apologies to those blokes for an unkind comparison) and did nothing.

    Finally Goodell stepped in, privately, at the beginning of the season, the Pats quit deflating, and we all saw the results.

    So a couple games in Tommy insisted on cheating again and Belichcik, always up for a good cheat agreed under the stipulation Brady would take the fall since Belichick’s already been caught in one major, and many minor, cheats.

    Again, the owners were going to wait for the off season so they didn’t disgrace the league but when Brady told the Ravens to learn the rule book, the sheer hypocrisy sent too many owners over the edge.

    Reap what you sow Patri*ts.

    Cheers

  119. Brady will accept a one game suspension but his terms are to serve it in Week 17 after the Patriots have captured the division or home field throughout the postseason.

  120. Or maybe Brady is just as sick of this deflategate crap as a lot of people are. He wants it over so its not a distraction to him or the team. The idea is to go win the super bowl again. Distractions interfere with that goal.

    If i was in Brady’s shoes id be thinking the same thing a lot right now. Just end this dumb crap. And i wouldnt care what the public thought. The public have their minds made up already and for the people that would change their opinion based off a 1 game settlement to end a way over blown subject to begin with aren’t worth fussing over.

  121. somerealidiotsonhere says:
    Aug 19, 2015 10:47 AM

    Suspend him for the season, strip his SB rings, the dude’s a cheater… the whole team cheats. I have no respect for Shady Brady.
    __
    The fact that they cheated IN THE PLAYOFFS and were still allowed to keep the Lombardi is a crime. And the fact that Belichick, an already confirmed cheater, got NOTHING, while Sean Payton got a year because “not knowing is not an excuse” is a travesty. Even arguing over 4 games is a joke — Brady should have been banned for at least a year.

  122. I for one hope the distraction from this lasts to the final game of the season. At some point, the Patriots organization has to look themselves in the mirror and ask if all this cheating is worth it. Spygate is one level of cheating, the deflation of footballs is so much more minor that you have to ask if it was worth all this trouble?

    Either way, I hope the suspension sticks, I hope Brady will not try it again and let’s see the fumbling stats in 2015 when the Patriots are forced to play with regulation footballs.

  123. Called it a month ago, Brady will accept a reduced suspension for withholding evidence/failing to cooperate with no admission of actually cheating.

  124. .
    If true, the NFLPA has made a good tactical maneuver. Judge Berman has made it unquestionably clear that he favors some sort of settlement. This would give him some basis to proceed, knowing that the offer of a one game suspension would be acceptable to one side.

    For Brady to sit out the home opener, in exchange for a cessation of hostilities, may be a good deal in the long run.
    .

  125. sbaltimore says:
    Aug 19, 2015 10:49 AM

    The New England PatriNOTS.

    NOT champions! NOT honorable! NOT a dynasty!

    Proven CHEATERS.
    Proven LIARS.
    Proven PARIAHS.

    =====================

    Ravens eh?

    The team that has a statue of a player who was convicted in a murder case?

    The team who lobbied Goodell, successfully for a light suspension for a player who knocked a woman out and dragged her like a sack of potatoes from an elevator?

    The team that released official tweets stating that Rice’s fiance apologized for HER role in getting knocked out?

    The team who’s current star defensive player (Suggs) beat a woman, dragged her from a car, and poured bleach on her and his and her child?

  126. Not cooperating = Going Hillary Clinton on your cell phone with all the evidence on it.

    Sorry Shady, doesn’t work that way, you’re guilty and have been cheating for over a decade, take your 4 game suspension like a man, you are Ryan Braun, you are Alex Rodriguez, you are Lance Armstrong, them just the fact.

    #4evertainted

  127. Brady needs to show the court that he respects it and that he acted in good faith in response to the judge’s directives. He and his counsel have done that very well. The NFL, not very well.

  128. 1. This is the Brady camp positioning itself as the more reasonable of the two parties involved. It’s all about Berman now. It’s always been about Berman.

    2. To everybody not living in Wisconsin: Brady’s better than your QB. Live with it.

  129. Some of these comments are hilarious, they really are.

    The judge has already signaled pretty clearly that he believes the nfl went off the rails in giving brady a penalty as harsh as they did by the questions he asked ripping apart the wells report and Well’s credibility as an “independant” investigator.

    The only matter before the judge is if the nfl has the authority and followed a process and if there was precident that would make the penalty like they gave brady legitimate for a “failure” to cooperate. The judge wants the parties to settle on this matter only. If the reports are true, brady’s people have made a significant offer of settlement. If the NFL won’t move of its position that brady admits to the findings of the wells report (which IS NOT what this case is about) they are going to lose big time.

  130. Of course he’s open to that. Because at the end of the day non-compliance is better looking than being a cheater. This was his motive all along. Don’t cooperate so you have plausible deniability.

  131. bostonteaparty – “it gets to article 15, did Godell come to his conclusion in a reasonable manner. ”

    I hear ya. I am sure there are literally hundreds of fallacies in the manner Goodell came to his conclusions. The omission of statements of witnesses, the dismissal of testimony, the science, etc. It goes on and on…

    If I am Brady, i’d rather sit 4 games than give any merit to this report.

  132. I’m sorry Pats fans….but to me, if Brady accepts a suspension WILLINGLY of any length, then there’s something to the NFL’s baseless accusations.

    If I’m Tom Brady and I’m innocent, I accept nothing short of a fine. If he does, well, we backed the wrong horse.

    Some may say he’s being pragmatic and Florio’s article is interesting and surely correct, however, for most of the folks out there and for me….he did something wrong. End of story.

    This, of course, in the event the ESPN report is true.

    A PACKER FAN

  133. When will the Super Bowl MVP and GOAT QB get to play a REAL MAN’s team in the league for a change?

    It really is beneath a man of his accomplishments to have to face all these wuss teams and hear the braying of their wussy fans. I am outraged that he has to subject himself to such puny inferiority every week. Time to fold the wuss teams and give Brady some REAL competition. Even the GOAT QB would appreciate that and why wouldn’t he.

  134. It is astounding that anyone could believe this offer from Brady’s camp “makes him seem reasonable.” Of course he’d love to walk away with a one-game suspension and no admission of guilt aside from non-cooperation! That’s his dream scenario at this point.

    There is zero chance that Brady will get his suspension reduced without admitting that he cheated. The NFL will not go for any deal like that, period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a fantasy land.

  135. I think this is a smart decision for Brady. Let’s the Judge know he’s willing to settle, makes the NFL look recalcitrant and petty. I also think Brady is starting to worry about what this is doing to the Patriots. It’s not fair that with no evidence, it’s come down to this; but, Brady wants to put this behind him…..and for all the naysayers out there….this does NOT mean that Brady is admitting to any guilt!!!!

  136. If the NFL backed down now, that would send a terrible message of tolerance of cheaters. Honestly, deflating some balls to get a better grip is very minor. If Brady and the Pats had just come clean, then it all would have blown over with a slap on the wrist and a small fine for tampering with equipment. Instead, they decided that the best course of action would be to use the Lance Armstrong/Ryan Braun/ Roger Clemons approach to angrily deny everything and refuse to cooperate. The NFL was left with no choice but to fine the Pats heavily and suspend Brady.

    The Pats approach was absolutely the wrong way, and here we are here today.

  137. At this point, it doesn’t even matter. They can take away the suspension altogether. Nothing that happens from here on out changes the fact that Brady and the Patriots are cheaters. His legacy is already tarnished and suspension or not, that won’t change. Argue the semantics of the Wells report all you want, it doesn’t matter. To anybody not living in Boston, it’s more than clear that he cheated. Innocent people don’t destroy evidence and the equipment guy wasn’t called the Deflator because he was trying to lose weight. He will go down as one of the *best quarterbacks to ever *play the game.

  138. hatersgonnahatehate says:
    Aug 19, 2015 11:04 AM
    ummm what about the court order to stop leaking information…?

    —-

    ummm…there is none. The judge asked both side to stop with the rhetoric; but, there is no gag order.

  139. I have no doubt that Jastremski and McNally have NDAs with the Patriots, and would have to return any severance if they violated them.

    But if the guys were going to say publicly that:
    1. They did not monkey with the balls, and/or
    2. Tom Brady had absolutely no knowledge of their ball handling

    wouldn’t the Patriots release them from the bounds of the NDA? Why in the world wouldn’t they?

  140. What happened to see ya in court, you got no case?

    Huff huff puff puff bluster bluster blah blah blah.

    In the end, just as I said, Brady doesn’t want this all coming out in the open. And the Patriots sure as heck don’t want the Deflator up there telling us all under oath this time what that nickname really means. All you Patriots fans who think otherwise have been so hilarious spamming these boards with your drivel.

    This is the perfect save-face for Brady. What’s hilarious is that Drama Queen Tom could’ve taken a deal in the first place and saved us all these endless silly little stories.

  141. 6ball says:
    Aug 19, 2015 11:01 AM
    .
    If true, the NFLPA has made a good tactical maneuver. Judge Berman has made it unquestionably clear that he favors some sort of settlement. This would give him some basis to proceed, knowing that the offer of a one game suspension would be acceptable to one side.

    For Brady to sit out the home opener, in exchange for a cessation of hostilities, may be a good deal in the long run.
    ——
    What’s the only thing that could make Roger Goodell look like a bigger fool than he already does? Brady sitting out one game…the first game of the season at Foxboro where Goodell will insist the SB banner not only be raised; but, he be there for it. What a PR blunder that will be as the fans not only boo him out of the stadium but turn their backs on the banner being raised!
    No Brady, no banner! Fire Goodell!!!!

  142. Brady should have to admit he cheated to get a reduction in a sentence. Arthur Blank should have been suspended for a year after he got caught piping in sound in to Atlanta’s Stadium and that Viking player who got caught for putting balls against the heater last year should have gotten suspended for the same length of time as Brady. If you mess with the medical equipment or the field, you are cheating! You should get suspended.

  143. The liars at the NFL will abuse this in their next press release and title it: BRADY ADMITS RESPONSIBILITY – WILL TAKE ONE GAME SUSPENSION

  144. my last comment was too harsh I guess and I’m sorry for that but the fact remains: Brady is guilty. No one who has an operative brain can reasonably defend him now. Sorry Patriots fans, I forgive you of your rudeness toward me both here and on Twitter. The sun will come up tomorrow. Watch Shiri Spear’s forecasts on FOX 25. A pretty lady with a brain. Thus, she knows Tom Brady is guilty as well.

  145. i thought this was all overblown till Brady destroyed evidence. what are you hiding Tom? arrogant cheat

  146. kev86 says:
    Aug 19, 2015 11:31 AM
    per a source, 2 games and the draft picks will be the final verdict.

    ___________________________________

    seems fair

  147. History and journalists (yes I’m a pro objective journalist, that’s why I never bought the Patriots’ story for a minute) will be judging the Brady era now. This is just as bad as anything else that has occurred in NFL history if not worse.

  148. Brady is just floating this so he can seem more conciliatory to the judge.

    The NFL really has very little incentive to take that deal.

    First, one game is not enough.

    More importantly, the lawsuit is for confirmation that Goodell gets to be the last word on ‘integrity of the game’ suspensions.

    On that basis, Berman could firmly believe Goodell got it wrong and still side with the NFL in upholding the suspension.

    And getting that ruling would be a very important precedent for future fights with the NFLPA. If instead the league settles the matter, they virtually guarantee that the next penalty under this clause will also go to court.

  149. He’s just posturing. This puts the NFL on defense as if they change it to obstructing and investigation, it becomes obstruction of a sham.

  150. LEGIT SOURCE:
    “No material terms were offered during Tuesday’s settlement talks on Brady. Parties still stuck on facts (re: guilt) of the case.”

    Ho hum. Another day, another lie by the NFL* exposed.

    What else is new. 🙂

  151. “More importantly, it makes him seem reasonable before Judge Berman, at a time when the NFL’s “agree to all of these things and then we’ll talk about a reduced suspension” position seems a little unreasonable. In a case that can go either way when it’s time for a judge who is pushing for settlement to issue a ruling, it’s alway good to be the side perceived as being reasonable.”

    Ding Ding Ding Ding

    It means a few things

    1. The NFL is crazy and they aren’t going to accept that (because they are morons and power hungry and need to legitimize their fascist lies)

    2. Just like Florio says, it makes Brady seem reasonable to the judge, and that he’s willing to be suspended for 1 game for basically nothing which is a far bigger punishment then anyone else ever got for the same thing. Thus by taking the risk of the NFL accepting 1 game, he might get 0 by winning the case. It’s not really a risk when you know the other side won’t agree to it.

    3. If the NFL comes off it’s complete fascist hardline idiocy, he serves a one game suspension, does not confirm the league’s witch hunt or any guilt that would embolden another witch hunt on someone else, and the situation is behind them.

    Overall it’s a good position, mostly because Brady likely is pegging the NFL as the morons they have shown to be up until now. He’s flexible, they aren’t, and THEY have no proof, and THEY are trying to grab as much power as they can get and set a bunch of new precedents.

  152. Next step cheaters anonymous….Hi my name is Tom Brady and I am a cheater…..you can’t get help if you don’t admit you have a problem….getting closer Tom congratulations….

  153. kev86 says:
    Aug 19, 2015 11:31 AM
    per a source, 2 games and the draft picks will be the final verdict.

    What source? I don’t think the draft picks or the million dollar fine Kraft paid can be brought back into the matter.

  154. Haters & morons (synonymous in this case)—

    Brady can’t be guilty if the balls were not deflated below what’s predicted by science.

    The calculations are basic algebra. Take 15 minutes, teach yourself the Ideal Gas Law, and do the math yourself.

    It’s Chemistry 101! High school stuff!

    This is why our country is going to hell…so many idiots are averse to BASIC SCIENCE.

    Morons.

  155. wikidpissah says:
    Aug 19, 2015 11:05 AM

    Ravens eh? The team that has a statue of a player who was convicted in a murder case?
    ***
    This kind of nonsense tends to show why Pats fans have so little regard for the truth, which is easily ascertainable by a simple internet search.

    Lewis was not convicted of murder. In fact, no one was (the individuals who were put on trial were found innocent by reason of self-defense). So, there was no murder.

    Pats fans (and many others), however, who continually rail against supposed factual errors in the Wells report but love to make claims about Lewis, don’t seem to have a problem ignoring facts when it suits them.

  156. cornhusker44 says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:03 AM
    He and his team are cheats. That’s fact. That’s truth. Legacy & dynasty have asterisks and stains on them. Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact

    Rice has said he used stickum. I believe its more probable than not that Montana and Walsh knew about it!!!! That reasoning was good enough for you to state that its a fact that Brady cheated so stop being a hypocrite and apply it to them also. Fact

  157. Those of us who have lived through civil litigation know it is a brutal process, especially if you are the target. Large organizations like the NFL have unlimited financial resources, lawyers that would sell their own mothers, third parties that will do their dirty work and carry their water to ensure their favored position stays in tact, and will tell any lie they think will give them leverage.

    The only way Brady “wins” is by taking this all the way through a defamation case to a jury award. That’s a brutal process. They wear you down and attack family members and friends.

    I lived through something very similar to what Russell Crow experienced in The Insider. Watch that film to understand what they are doing to Brady. Brady is a hero for standing up to these men.

  158. Before you haters start getting excited about Brady admitting to something, consider the source of this report.

    This comes from ESPN, who no doubt got it from an “NFL Source”.

    Remember what happened the last time ESPN reported based on an NFL source? 11 of 12 Patriots footballs 2 PSI under the limit. A complete fabrication leaked by the League in order to enhance the public perception of guilt.

    So until we get a direct quote from Brady or his lawyer, don’t pop the lids on your celebratory bottles of Haterade.

  159. I’ve had a minor change of heart, I will gladly live with a Brady 1 game suspension for non-cooperation with, and only with, the following added conditions:

    -the firing of Kensil, Vincent, Gardi. and Pash
    -the resignation of Goodell
    -100K fines for Irsay (leak to Kravitz), Grigson (false, unsupported nuisance complaint), and a 25K fine to the the Colts (testing a football in a game)
    -NFL apology to Brady and to the Patriots for ball deflation accusations

    There is no progress without some pain!

  160. From what i’m hearing in regards to the session they had today, the NFL is in some heat now…

    Bermann questioning the process in which the appeal was handled and realizing that the NFL violated protocols.

    Bermann grilling Goodell’s drastic change of “general awareness” to “being involved in a scheme” without ANY shred of evidence that there was any directive from Tom to anyone regarding football deflation during the AFCCG vs the Colts.

  161. granadafan says:
    Aug 19, 2015 11:25 AM
    If the NFL backed down now, that would send a terrible message of tolerance of cheaters. Honestly, deflating some balls to get a better grip is very minor. If Brady and the Pats had just come clean, then it all would have blown over with a slap on the wrist and a small fine for tampering with equipment. Instead, they decided that the best course of action would be to use the Lance Armstrong/Ryan Braun/ Roger Clemons approach to angrily deny everything and refuse to cooperate. The NFL was left with no choice but to fine the Pats heavily and suspend Brady.

    The Pats approach was absolutely the wrong way, and here we are here today.
    ——————-

    This. Even a Tom Brady hater like myself will admit that deflating balls is the criminal equivalent of doing 55 mph in a 30 mph zone. No one really cares, and should be punished with a slap on the wrist that does nothing to your permanent record.

    Tom Brady (and his delusional fans) is the guy who got pulled over and starting raving about how this was all entrapment, profiling and massive conspiracy and when he gets hit with a misdemeanor instead of a ticket (precisely because his behavior caused the hammer to be brought down) decides to sue the police department for harassment and malicious prosecution. It’s a waste of time and money, and if you just admitted the truth no one would hold it against you.

  162. If the NFL won’t accept this (if true) then they deserve to he humiliated if Berman does rule against them. Refusal to accept this might make Berman more likely to rule against them.

  163. dansardo says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:22 AM

    “Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact”
    *********************
    I guess you never heard of Jerry Rice and sticum. Fact.

    Given how dramatically rice’s catches improved the year he began using and years later its really very interesting to speculate how successful the 49rs would have been during the years thier top reciever had been so….”sure handed”
    *******************
    Madden said that his coaches coms would mysteriously fail in the first 10 minutes of 49er home games. This is the key part of the game when scripted plays are being run and the booth guys are sending instant feedback to the field. Of course the Raiders we noted for overwatering the field to make it nice and sloppy. This is an advantage for receivers versus the DB’s. All teams “cheat”. All the Goodell’s crackdown has done is make it all more obvious.

    Even if the Pats did this (not proven) the prudent course would be to tell them to stop it and implement a new ball inspection regimen. The fact that this was not done tells us that there is a larger agenda.

  164. Brady may accept one game suspension. Only winner here is the Steelers.

    Go Jimmy G !!

  165. Would the one game thing make Deflategate go away? If so sign me up….stupidest scandal of all time…….Yeah the .3 PSI was the reason they won games….riiiiiight…..

  166. ESPN is the TMZ of the sports world, everything is about ratings. You notice Chris Mortenson is off this thing, Why, beacuse of all the false crap he made up at the start of this with “league sources”

  167. Until I see Tom Brady standing up and saying this, it’s just another “leak,” and likely released to manipulate public opinion. I’m talking to you, Roger Goodell.

  168. You’ve got to be kidding me. Brady’s camp has just confirmed this Schefter story as false. ESPN has officially lost their last credible source in my book

  169. dansardo says:
    Aug 19, 2015 9:22 AM

    “Joe Montana & Bill Walsh didn’t need to cheat. Fact”


    Did you miss the interview where Montana said that his team cheated in their last superbowl? Did you also miss the part of that interview where Montana said if he thought lowering the psi of footballs would have given him an advantage, he would have done it?

  170. Ian Rappaport as well as others have reported that Brady’s camp told them that this report is “completely false,” yet another false leak from the nfl to espn to paint Brady as guilty. When is the corrected story on this going to come out on here? Need to properly educate these commenters.

  171. I think Schefter needs to give up his source of false information or he is going to get the Mort treatment and be vilified!!!! I pray its an NFL Executive!!

  172. Passionate Patriot fans fail to grasp that the result of Brady’s silly lawsuit against the NFL really doesn’t matter. His reputation instantly became tarnished once Kraft accepted the league’s punishment for cheating. It’s done. So even if Brady’s lawyers negotiate a reduced suspension for him, and he gets away without formally admitting guilt, the damage has already been done.

  173. “Some will now insist that Brady’s willingness to consider a one-game suspension means that he’s guilty of something…”

    Yes, he would be “guilty” of not cooperating fully with the NFL investigation into deflated footballs. Nothing more.

  174. In a perfect world, the NFL would agree to clear Brady and the Pats of all wrongdoing in Deflategate, and rescind the suspension, in exchange for stripping the Patriots of all four Super Bowl titles that they cheated for in order to get.

    Then, the NFL would remove its black eye and the Pats could start fresh.

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