ESPN legal analyst declares “NFL will win” Brady case

AP

During 18 years of practicing law, clients routinely would ask me, “Will we win the case?”

And I routinely would say, “I don’t know.”

And if they’d press for more details or express any uncertainty about my uncertainty, I’d say this, “Anyone who tells you that they know how a case will turn out is lying or uninformed.” (I typically used a much stronger word than “uninformed.”)

Regarding the Tom Brady suspension, ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson has been lying or uninformed for more than three months now.

On May 17, five days after the NFL imposed a four-game banishment on Brady, Munson authored an item that declares there’s “not much hope” for Brady in his appeal. With a question-and-answer format to the column, Munson asked himself whether Brady can win a reduction in the suspension or eliminate it entirely.

“No,” Munson wrote. “The evidence gathered by attorney Ted Wells for the NFL’s investigation is clear and convincing. The text messages between Brady and two Patriots staffers, the disappearance of the Patriots’ footballs in the moments before kickoff, the history of similar incidents involving Brady and Brady’s stonewalling of the NFL investigators lead to only one conclusion: Brady was clearly involved in an effort to underinflate the footballs to give him a competitive edge.”

When the case moved from the internal appeal phase to the external litigation phase, Munson doubled down.

“Will Brady succeed in court and stop the NFL from suspending him for four games?” Munson asked himself.

No, Brady will not succeed,” Munson told himself. “Although he enjoys top-of-the-line legal representation and his lawyers will file a brilliantly written lawsuit, his effort to stop the suspension is doomed. There are two reasons why: First, federal judges are reluctant to reconsider the rulings of arbitrators; second, [Commissioner Roger] Goodell produced a decision on Brady that is brilliantly reasoned, meticulously detailed, and well-written. Goodell’s recitation of the evidence of the tampering with game balls is powerful, and his description of Brady’s attempt at a cover-up is persuasive.”

Of course, Munson’s second column came before the 456-page transcript of the appeal hearing was released, a transcript which reveals various flaws in the ruling, such as the failure to allow the NFLPA to call NFL general counsel Jeff Pash as a witness, the refusal to compel “independent” investigator Ted Wells to make his files available to the union, the mischaracterization of Tom Brady’s testimony regarding interactions with John Jastremski, the NFL’s lack of knowledge regarding the natural deflation of footballs in cold weather, and the failure of the league to give Brady the policy under which he was suspended.

But none of that has changed Munson’s opinion. Two days after Judge Richard M. Berman aggressively questioned NFL lawyer Dan Nash regarding the flaws in the NFL’s case, Munson dismisses the interrogation and declares that “the NFL will win in the end.”

Munson essentially believes that Judge Berman is doing whatever he can to force a settlement so that he won’t have to issue a ruling in the case, because Judge Berman fears being reversed by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. But if the case is as clear as Munson seems to know it is, why should Judge Berman worry about anything? He should bang the gavel and move on, as confident as Munson is that the Second Circuit would quickly uphold the ruling.

And if Judge Berman somehow does what Munson would view as unthinkable and overturns the suspension, Munson already knows that three randomly-assigned judges from a total available panel of 22 would unanimously agree that Judge Berman is clearly wrong. To support his certainty in this regard, Munson points to the Maurice Clarett legal attack on the draft from 11 years ago — which initially went against the NFL but went the other way on appeal — as proof.

Of course, the Clarett case involved entirely different facts, circumstances, and legal principles. But since the Second Circuit already has reversed a Manhattan federal court once before in a case involving the NFL, it’ll happen every time, right?

It’s unclear why Munson has been so strident in his views on the Brady case. We’ll assume that he genuinely believes he already knows the outcome, and that he’s not lying to the audience he serves. However, if we rule out that Munson is lying, it means that he’s uninformed.

I don’t know Lester Munson personally, and I have no reason to question his intelligence or lack thereof. Except, that is, for the fact that he was once suspended by the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission in a case that included a finding that he failed to maintain separate accounts for client funds from settlements and for his business expenses.

Which, as any lawyer can tell you, is incredibly uninformed.

So if only one prior case from more than a decade ago is all that’s needed to support the notion that the NFL would win on appeal in the event Judge Berman goes rogue and rules against the NFL now, only one prior instance of extreme uninformedness is all that’s needed to concluded that, indeed, a legal analyst who believes with certainty that he knows how a legal case will end is seriously uninformed.

Ultimately, Munson could get lucky; the NFL could win. But Munson would be no more accurate than if he’d called the toss of a coin correctly or accurately picked red or black on a roulette wheel. He’s making a guess and acting as if he knows. If he truly think he knows, he’s definitely uninformed.

186 responses to “ESPN legal analyst declares “NFL will win” Brady case

  1. ESPN makes Pravda look unbiased. Nobody trusts them, and when Goodell is gone they will have no friends in the NFL.

  2. He is with ESPN: Bought and paid for by the NFL.

    I think Berman has already made up his mind that not only is there zero proof that Brady knew anything, in particular on the day of the case at hand, the AFC Championship. I further think that Berman probably also thinks that Goodell and his clowns have run a kangaroo court, so Berman is looking for a loophole to rule against the NFL. The other day when he mentioned that the NFL’s case could be blown out of the water since they did not allow that lawyer to testify is probably that loophole.

    Also, despite the underlying argument that Article 46 gives Goodell the right to make all decisions, even if they seem unfair because that is what the NFLPA signed, there is a limit to this. When you sign a contract, there is supposed to be a meeting of the minds. I think that the NFLPA could make a great argument that there was no meeting of the minds; meaning that they thought that Goodell would not be this unreasonable since he as gone WAY beyond all normal standards of reason in this case.

  3. I’ve seen Munson on TV as a legal analyst for more than 20 years now and he has always had a know-it-all attitude. Yet he’s still been wrong more frequently than he’s been right.

    Florio also seems to always have a know-it-all attitude, but at least he’s right more often than not.

  4. Quick poll – who was taken to task more, Munsion by Florio just now or the NFL in court by Judge Berman this week.

    Thumbs up – Florio
    Thumbs down – Berman

  5. Nobody is going to “win” this in the end. Too much damage has been done to all sides. Brady is tarnished regardless the outcome, it’s yet another black eye for the Patriots, and the NFL looks as corrupt and incompetent as ever.

    It’s so bad that to “win” Goodell needs the most recognizable player in the game to be viewed as a liar and cheat and to remind everybody that the reigning Super Bowl champs have repeatedly been caught breaking rules. And in his quest to make that happen, the league gets exposed to tons of bad press and reminders about how they lied about evidence and were totally incompetent in yet another investigation. Some “win.”

  6. Correction. Munson was TWICE suspended from practicing law and the second time he quit practicing law altogether to pursue a journalism career.

    He has not practiced law since having his license revoked in 1991… NINETEEN NINETY ONE. He hasn’t practiced law in 23 years.

  7. Lester Munson hasn’t been a lawyer in over 20 years. Why? He left the profession after running afoul of ethics violations and that was the best way for him to cut a deal for a lesser punishment. His previous work includes being convinced the Duke lacrosse players were guilty. Just another league water-carrier at the four-letter network.

  8. Cue the crying deflatriot fans, the struggle is real for these poor fools.

    Bwahahahahhaha ****

  9. Brady is obviously guilty … the only issue is if they can find some sort of technicality so he can escape his just and well-deserved suspension.

  10. I hate ESPN. If it wasn’t for cable packages being shoved down your throat from the cable TV providers and you could pick and choose your broadcast stations they would have to compete a lot harder. Their most egregious offense in not only that they lie, it’s that they make the news, not report it. They are truly despicable. But ESPN and Roger are truly strong allies….and so it goes.

  11. Munson is right. Brady will cave the nanosecond he is required to testify under oath and penalty for perjury.

    It is beyond belief that Judge Berman has been reviewing the case for this long and has not brought John Jastremski and Jim “The Deflator” McNally in for questioning. Is Berman just trolling us or is he really that stupid?

  12. I laughed too when I was reading through that article. He may just be one of those “in for a penny in for a pound” types. Can’t admit when an earlier prediction/assertion is wrong. Go down with the ship.

    Or he could be a “Pats hater” or be towing the company line typical of ESPN and/or NFLN, which is basically the same thing. lol

    But extremely well done, Florio.

  13. I really like these “law articles”. It is a good use of Florio’s background, fresh in content and water cooler conversation feeders.

  14. Quick poll – who was taken to task more, Munsion by Florio just now or the NFL in court by Judge Berman this week.

    Thumbs up – Florio
    Thumbs down – Berman
    ____________________________

    Florio diplomatically outed Munson and subtly, yet skillfully – with facts, not BS, called him a hack.

    Munson had to read it 3x to figure out he was dressed down.

  15. floratiotime says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:26 PM
    Brady is obviously guilty … the only issue is if they can find some sort of technicality so he can escape his just and well-deserved suspension.
    ——————————————————————-

    Actually the comical part of this is that you have it backwards. Anyone still paying attention to the case (which is no one except for NE fans and NE haters, sadly) know that he obviously WAS NOT proven guilty, including Judge Berman.

    The only issue is if the Judge feels he has to uphold it because of, you got it, a technicality. Article 46 in the CBA. The NFL is literally not denying it had no evidence and was not impartial in arbitrating, but “it doesn’t matter if he was guilty, because Article 46.”

    Hopefully that technicality doesn’t hold up in the end.

  16. Considering the journalism at PFT, Yahoo, Washington Post, SI regarding the coverage of this mess, ESPN should be ashamed of itself. But I guess they have sold out and have no shame. I can understand if there are differing voices at the same network, but how come no one ever criticizes NFL at ESPN? World Wide Leaders in unproffessionalism.

  17. On page 69 of the released court documents the judge stated”arbitration awards have been vacated”because testimony was not allowed! The NFL did not allow the Attorney (Pash)who cowrote the wells report to testify or allow his notes to be viewed.
    Watch “cousin Vinny” it’s called disclosure!.
    Per the judge ” there are basic procedures of fairness that have to be followed” see page 70. It refers to allowing witnesses to testify!!
    As the judge said Pash is the co- lead , it was in the press release “you all wrote”

  18. Nice legal fense sitting Florio.

    He’ll be either uniformed or “lucky”.

    Expect better than that from you.

    You’ve been anti-NFL the whole way through.

    Although anyone not a Pats homer believe there was tampering here and it wouldn’t happen without Brady’s consent.

    It’s not a murder trail, you don’t need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt.

  19. No, Brady will not win the case, and I have until October first to declare for the Presidency of the United States. Me and the NFL, we’re winners every time.

  20. Keep hanging on to your hate, haters. Keep saying your prayers at night and writing letters to Santa. Keep hoping that a miracle happens and that you can justify the poor showing of your favorite team in the face of the best NFL franchise of the past 15 years.

    And when Berman reaches the ruling that, in your heart of hearts, you know that he will, come find me and I’ll hand you a tissue to dry your tears.

  21. (I typically used a much stronger word than “uninformed.”)

    Ooohh, you’re such a wildman…

  22. Wish they’d stop pretending they’re a news outlet. These clowns refused to report Rothlisberger’s 1st sexual assault because he was a guest star on “Shaq VS.”

    If they’d given it 25% as much attention as they have to possibly deflated footballs, that 2nd girl may never have been victimized. Their coverage has a HUGE effect on the NFL’s rulings.

  23. It appears the judge believes the balls were tampered with. And I think he also knows it would not have been done without Brady’s knowledge and consent. Brady sits his four.

  24. The fact of the matter is that no one knows how a judge is going to rule in this case if he has to rule. As a pat fan I fully understand that, while Berman has made it clear that the nfl’s “findings” are a load of crap, he isn’t overseeing a case that is reviewing the the facts, his job is just to determine if the nfl violated the CBA. he clearly thinks the nfl’s findings are so flawed that he is going to try to find a way to oveturn it if the nfl won’t back down. In the end, he may not be able to do that because the case isn’t about the actual facts. If it doesn’t work out that way, at least someone that is actually independent looked at all of this and made clear he thought it was a bag job.

    I cAn live with that. On espn’s lawerr’s opinion, he has been discredited already

  25. Of course, this is why these things get blown out of proportion. You just can’t believe anything that anyone says anymore. It’s sad but true. Whether politicians, lawyers, celebrities, news casters, clergy it doesn’t matter, they all lie. But what makes it worse is that they have all mastered public speaking skills. So they tell bold faced lies without batting an eye.
    Anyway this guy Munson is wrong. Brady will win the case and it won’t matter a hoot to Munson. He will still collect his pay check. Why? Because he generated the number of clicks his bosses dictate are required for steady employment. Even though he is wrong.
    And even Limakey agrees with me on this point. I think.

  26. Damn Florio, don’t hold back, tell us what you really think!

    Seriously though, I don’t think ESPN will allow anyone on the air who doesn’t support (or will at least publicly DECLARE support) for the NFL in this ridiculous batch of nonsense.

  27. I am amazed by two things.
    One, the haters refusing to believe facts, continuing their “THE SKY IS GREEN!! I KNOW IT FOR FACT!” farcical rants, any attempt at fact finding, and basically making it up as they go along….

    and two, the fact that I am amazed at number one.

  28. citizenstrange says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:31 PM
    Munson is right. Brady will cave the nanosecond he is required to testify under oath and penalty for perjury.
    _________________________________________

    Um, actually, Brady already testified under oath. But thanks for keeping up!

  29. I have not watched ESPN for several years now. They try to push their liberal political view down your throat. Oh, I’ll watch PSU when they play or maybe the LL World Series. But for their shows, stick it.

  30. Munson wrote that Brady texted “2” equipment guys.
    Wrong!
    Munson wrote that there is a history with Brady doing these types of things.
    Wrong!

    Munson is so predictable that I could have wrote his most recent column.
    This guy was never interested in being objective,
    and he has been spectacularly wrong more than a few times.
    Maybe this time the nut will find his squirrel.

  31. theauger says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:18 PM

    The ESPN hate is getting old.
    ——————

    Oh yeah? How long have they been hated?

  32. floratiotime says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:26 PM

    Brady is obviously guilty … the only issue is if they can find some sort of technicality so he can escape his just and well-deserved suspension.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    So obviously guilty? Have you read:

    The Wells Report
    The AEI Report
    The Goodell appeal “award” (I can’t believe they call those things awards…)
    The Appeal hearing transcript
    The brief the NFLPA submitted to Minnesota
    The brief the NFLPA submitted to Judge Berman
    The brief the NFL submitted to Judge Berman?

    Pats fans have real all of these OFFICIAL documents – about 350 – 400 pages of text. We know the facts.

    The fact is there is zero proof that any deflation occured, let alone that Brady was “generally aware” of it as per Wells report. The Goodell turns the general awareness of something that may have occurred into Brady leading and funding a “scheme” to deflate balls.

    The “Deflator” text and “haven’t gone to ESPN…yet” text were from May 2014 – the off season. The Jets game with 16 PSI balls was a Patriots home game in Oct 2014. If there was a deflation “scheme”, why was the scheme not in effect for the Jets game?

    In the appeal, Kessel is asking the Exponent guy about time to measure the balls at half time. Exponent guy testifies it takes 30 seconds to measure 1 ball with 2 guages.

    So how does “the deflator” measure, remove air, and re-measure 12 balls in 100 seconds?

    Do the math…

  33. citizenstrange says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:31 PM

    Munson is right. Brady will cave the nanosecond he is required to testify under oath and penalty for perjury.

    It is beyond belief that Judge Berman has been reviewing the case for this long and has not brought John Jastremski and Jim “The Deflator” McNally in for questioning. Is Berman just trolling us or is he really that stupid?
    ++++++++++++++++

    Wow, your fundamental lack of understanding of the process, arguments and facts are astounding.

  34. floratiotime says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:26 PM

    Brady is obviously guilty … the only issue is if they can find some sort of technicality so he can escape his just and well-deserved suspension.
    ——————————-

    I heard the other day that they were going to try a new tactic. I think they called it a confirmed complete lack of evidence by the NFL.

    It would be just like Brady to get off on such a “technicality”.

  35. ReligionIsForIdiots says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:28 PM

    The NFL will win, the cheaters cheat every chance they get. Now they’ve been bugging locker rooms, is anyone actually surprised?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Good lord, how can you be so religious?

    This bugging thing came from 2010, and is also just rumor and inuendo. Did you read Florio’s bit from earlier today about how the Colts scan the locker room for bugs? Did they ever find any?

    Can’t find what isn’t there.

  36. i guess people always let their emotions get in the way of facts.

    munson hasn’t been right about one thing concerning deflategate thus far. if he has, maybe post it as a comment? instead of just saying he’s been dead on because you hate the Pats

  37. ankenyman says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:45 PM

    Florio, Munson is paid by ESPN to give his legal opinions. You expect him to to just say, “I don’t know.” That is absurd.
    ——————
    Looks like he ended up saying that anyway. Why not save everyone’s time?

  38. No way ESPN has it in for the Patriots. They have a bevy of impartial talking heads. Polian, Bettis, Ryan Clark, Brunelle…it’s not like those guys have an axe to grind with the Pats…right?

  39. Lester Munson?

    The guy that was disbarred in 1986 and blamed alcoholism? Sanctioned again in 1991?

    The guy that said that Barry Bonds would lose his case and declared MLB the winner when Bonds was convicted of a lesser count of obstruction and the jury hung on the 3 serious counts?

    The guy who crucified the Duke lacrosse team and Nifong?

    That Lester Munson?

    I’d say he was the Chris Mortensen of the legal World but that would be a bit harsh on old Mort.

  40. To all the haters who spew the same old blather and accusations. When are ANY of you going to post some evidence that Brady did ANYTHING. When are going to post ANYTHING that proves that any balls were purposely deflated. Even the bought and paid for Exponent Lab couldn’t do it, as much as they tried.

    So you have no crime, and no evidence that Brady wanted to abet a crime. All you have is a small cadre of league officials who can’t beat the Pats on the field, so they are attacking them off it.

    BTW- Munson has been on a lot of talk shows, etc. spewing Pash’s party line. Why isn’t his suspension and disbarment being told to these audiences. People have a right to know about the people who are being presented and reputable legal expert.

    Munson has shown on many occasions that he is NEITHER reputable or an expert.

  41. ESPN is full of confirmed liars and confirmed enablers of liars. Why should that guy be held to a higher standard?

    Besides, look what happened to the last 2 guys that were critical of the NFL. They got disappeared.

  42. ESPN or the NFL (maybe both) pay Munson to write these “legal” opinions.

    Amazingly, they have to turn over a rock to find some “disbarred lawyer” that will prostitute himself trying to defend the indefensible.

    ESPN’s reporting clearly shows they are willing to kowtow to Goodell & the NFL.

    ESPN… a simple question…

    HAVE YOU NO SHAME ?

  43. “It’s unclear why Munson has been so strident in his views on the Brady case.”

    Because he thinks article 46 and the precedent set by Garvey vs. MLB, as specifically stated in his latest column, says so, which you ignored in favor of the written equivalent of kicking your feet and screaming “NO NO NO” like a toddler?

  44. So how does “the deflator” measure, remove air, and re-measure 12 balls in 100 seconds?

    Do the math…
    ————————-

    I am not of the belief that he did, but I think the prevailing thought is that he just stuck a needle in each football and let some air out of each one. There wasn’t any before and after measuring. I could be wrong, though.

    It would be interesting to know how much air comes out of a football when you just stick a needle in it.

  45. Because he thinks article 46 and the precedent set by Garvey vs. MLB, as specifically stated in his latest column, says so, which you ignored in favor of the written equivalent of kicking your feet and screaming “NO NO NO” like a toddler?
    ===
    Garvey? Let’s examine Garvey’s holdings. Garvey specifically instructs trial judges to vacate and remand arbitration case where there are procedural defects. Now are you sure you want to invoke Garvey when saying that Berman won’t vacate and remand if he finds procedural defects? Would you like to phone a friend?

  46. OMG, not the Ideal Gas Law again, Florio. Read the Wikipedia entry for the IGL. It’s a joke.

    The AEI report was bought and paid for by Kraft, and they were ECONOMISTS not physicists.

    It’s laughable how desperate Pats are to defend an obvious cheater. The best part is going to be watching you all disappear when you don’t even make the playoffs this year.

  47. This is getting really ridiculous.

    I’d love to see Tom Brady eat a four-game suspension, because I loathe him, the Patriots, and the organization has a history of at least being around dubious activities.

    But where the NFL looked, for five minutes, like they had Tom Brady dead to rights, they increasingly look like they got caught, on camera, with their hand in the cookie jar, and they’re now blaming their sibling in front of their parents.

    Roger Goodell and the clowns that pay him need to be brought down a peg. He has no idea what he’s doing, and his ham-handed responses to each “crisis” the NFL faces has proven that.

  48. limakey says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:43 PM
    It appears the judge believes the balls were tampered with. And I think he also knows it would not have been done without Brady’s knowledge and consent. Brady sits his four.
    ________________________________________
    Of course he sits for four. Special teams and D have to play at least some of the game.
    Brady wins in court.
    Limakey, we will still accept your application to the Patriots Fan Club.

  49. As a Pats fan(I know they’re are a lot of frauds, but I really am; hardcore), Munson is right. He hasn’t been wrong yet in his predictions. I’ve been saying it all along. Whether with Berman or later on appeal, The NFL is gonna win. The Garvey or Missouri case doesn’t exactly apply, but eventually Brady is gonna have to win 3 rounds of overturning an arbitor in a CBA agreement. Not gonna happen. Maybe it plays out over 2 yrs, and Brady retires, who knows. But fairness and withchhunt, true as it may be, is almost irrelevent. Goodell, sad it may be, is within his rights and the NFL knows it. That’s why they’re not budging, despite pressure from Berman.

    The cheap shots on Munson(no friend of mine) were just that. Cheap.

  50. This is clearly a case of the NFL issuing a public challenge to Berman, using their media outlet ESPN and Munson as a mouthpiece. No judge wants to see his ruling reversed on appeal and this is a direct dare to Berman. Leave it to ESPN to carry the NFL’S bag of arrogance. Berman cannot decide this on the evidence, which he already knows is bogus. He has to decide it on procedural mistakes, which the NFL mistakenly believes they have in their favor. A deeper look under the surface of the Garvey case shows holes that would not favor the league. Berman does not want to rule on this case, he is making clear. He has pointed out one, of several issues to the NFL that he has seen cases “vacated” for. That Pash was not allowed to testify could make Berman rule in Brady’s favor. Without a settlement it comes down to the arrogance and how deep $ the influence of the NFL runs, vs. the personal strength of Berman on the bench.

  51. citizenstrange says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:31 PM
    Munson is right. Brady will cave the nanosecond he is required to testify under oath and penalty for perjury.

    It is beyond belief that Judge Berman has been reviewing the case for this long and has not brought John Jastremski and Jim “The Deflator” McNally in for questioning. Is Berman just trolling us or is he really that stupid?

    **************************
    Have you read only info that you agree with?
    -The NFL filed a sneak attack, a motion in 2nd circuit to validate the appeal process
    -The NFLPA challenged the appeal process in 8th circuit and that judge kicked it to the 2nd circuit
    -The NFL got a judge who is not a rubber stamp and cares about the law. He is looking at the facts not to relitigate them but to assess the level of fairness in the process. Goodell’s crazy leap to a “scheme” with no additional info except a destroyed phone is a good example.
    -The NFL opted not to call JJ and JM. We don’t know why but we have to assume that they have nothung to offer that implicates Brady. If they did it would have been in the Wells report in Bold Face. Count on it.
    -Evidence that does not implicate Brady helps Brady. The elimination of exculpatory evidence and testimony has been part of the NFL’s MO since day one.
    -Claiming privilege and hiding files is part of the same MO. This is not what anyone would call a normal or fair arbitration process. Even the NFL is not calling it fair. They say it just is. Tough luck. Berman has a problem with that. No matter how this case goes that genie is out of the bottle.
    -Witnesses who were not called at the appeal hearing are not subject to being called in front of Berman. That meams JJ and JM.
    -Brady was under oath at the appeal hearing. Not the same level of perjury as a court of law but significant nonetheless.
    -Florio is correct. No one, not even an expert lawyer, can call the outcome of this case. Munson is no better (actually far worse) than some of the commenters on this site who think that they are mind readers. A stopped clock is correct twice a day.

  52. Munson is right. Brady will cave the nanosecond he is required to testify under oath and penalty for perjury.
    ===
    People are still saying this? Seriously?

    Look: don’t comment about stuff you don’t bother to keep yourself informed on. It just decreases the SNR.

  53. YourTeamIsTerrible says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:17 PM
    That guys is an idiot.

    Must make you an fool.

  54. “I read wikipedia on the Ideal Gas Law, and it’s a joke!” is my favorite hater comment of all time. The Wikipedia column is confusing to me, so it must be made up, like the dinosaurs!

  55. i just cant see a Judge putting his name to overturning a collectively bargained agreement …. this would really cause all sorts of lawsuits and give Goodell really no power at all as commish and other commissioners across our land. 4 games is not some insane amount of games and te process really boils down to does Goodell believe Brady cheated ? if he does he has full power to suspend does RG believe Brady hindered or obstructed he does so a judge cnt tell Goodell what he feels is wrong … i really would be shocked if this case worked its way through the legal system and came out favoring Brady over the NFL i just cant see it happening

  56. OMG, not the Ideal Gas Law again, Florio. Read the Wikipedia entry for the IGL. It’s a joke.

    The AEI report was bought and paid for by Kraft, and they were ECONOMISTS not physicists.

    It’s laughable how desperate Pats are to defend an obvious cheater. The best part is going to be watching you all disappear when you don’t even make the playoffs this year.

    ——
    will it happen as fast at the seahawks 12’s (dumbest thing) started liking their team (mid-season 2012)?

    and btw kraft didn’t have anything to do with AEI report. get your facts right.

    and btw btw ted wells paid the notorious ‘exponent’ half a million dollars to produce the results he wanted from experimentation.

    and btw btw btw i don’t like the Pats but i don’t hate them. they’ll be a top 2 seed this year once again

  57. mmack66 says:
    Aug 21, 2015 7:12 PM
    So how does “the deflator” measure, remove air, and re-measure 12 balls in 100 seconds?

    Do the math…
    ————————-
    =================
    Pretty easily done, especially when it’s become a routine.
    There’s no measuring and re-measuring.
    You lay down the bag, get down on one knee,
    You pull out a ball, stick a needle in it, and count to three.
    Pull out the next ball, etc.
    You don’t give a dorito’s dink about the psi reading.
    you just want the balls a little softer, just a little.
    Very easily done in that amount of time by an NFL equipment guy.

  58. OMG, not the Ideal Gas Law again, Florio. Read the Wikipedia entry for the IGL. It’s a joke.
    ===
    Go blow up a football with all that hot air, measure it, put it in your fridge, wait an hour and a half, and then measure it again.

    Then tell me its a joke. Seriously. Go do it. If you tell me the initial T and P and the temperature of your fridge, I’ll tell you what the pressure will be using Boyle’s law when you take it out.

  59. Munson is playing to his brand. These TV lawyers cultivate a style that makes them popular and then stick to it. In Munson’s case, that means taking strong positions and sticking to them, whether or not the position still makes sense as facts come to light.

    If Munson’s original strong position was that Brady was innocent, he would continue to keep that position even if a video popped up of Brady deflating footballs personally.

  60. In his article he says more than once “convincing evidence in the Wells report”, which the NFL admitted to the judge already has NO evidence that Brady did anything. He also said that Goodell’s 20 pagers were very influential and that the Wells report was a masterpiece. It must be that the NFL is not able to fool the rest of ESPN’s media members and Munson is the last name on the list they are using to spin their story.

  61. “OMG, not the Ideal Gas Law again, Florio. Read the Wikipedia entry for the IGL. It’s a joke.”

    This is what’s wrong with the American public education system. Science denial is going to kill this planet. *smh*

  62. Wow. It’s just an opinion. It didn’t take long for someone to dig up some dirt on the guy to discredit him. What’s most absurd about that is, it’s just an opinion. But that’s the way lawyers work, someone say’s something you don’t like (usually a witness however) and start digging for dirt to discredit them. Pretty ridiculous.

  63. Judge Berman does seem to really be beating on the NFL lawyers in an effort to get a settlement. I wonder if he feels the punishment for Brady is inherently unfair but knows that the NFL will probably win in the long run based on the collective bargaining agreement.

  64. Ben Volin just dropped the transcript of the second hearing.

    Like TBS, it’s very funny.

  65. I802, JM and JJ bury Brady. Why do you think Brady didn’t have him at his appeals hearing?
    ===
    Look, Roger: you can’t draw adverse inference from a witness that isn’t called when you already have the Wells Report and it’s notes. That’s not how it works.

  66. Munson’s suspension was for four months in 1991, according to the link. Over 24 years ago. For this, the man has no legal knowledge or credibility? That’s about as much of a reach as brady expecting any one but pats fans to believe the crap he’s put out.

  67. ” anyone not a Pats homer believe there was tampering here”

    Huh that’s funny cause in the last week I’ve seen fans of the Giants, Jets, Fins, Saints, Oakland and at least a dozen other franchises supporting Brady and the Pats as the innocent victims they are.

    Only people who have poor reading comprehension or those who blindly hate the Pats for repeatedly crushing their precious little teams still think Brady’s guilty at this point.

  68. the history of similar incidents involving Brady and Brady’s stonewalling of the NFL investigators

    I am by no means a Brady apologist, but, did I miss something here? Can someone help me out with the history of stonewalling NFL investigations?

    Florio’s been throwing out Easter Eggs lately. I love it. Good on you, sir.

  69. mrsryansfamoustoejam says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:33 PM

    It doesn’t matter what the lawyers say or what conclusion the judge makes. It’s pretty obvious to most observers that the Patriots and Brady are a bunch of cheaters.

    25

    77

    Well, if what you’re saying is true as thumbs up is 77 and thumbs down is 25 then you don’t know what the word “MOST” means. Guess you really don’t know what -“It’s pretty obvious to most observers that the Patriots and Brady are a bunch of cheaters.” means as well. Care to show the evidence as to what “most observers ” think? Cause, so far you are obviously wrong!!

  70. Colt’s recent history of cheating the holier than thou softies –

    2005 Noisegate – pumped in artificial crowd noise during Steelers possessions, a Steelers official pointed out many unidentified microphones attached atop poles and around the lower perimeter of the stadium that had nothing to do with the TV broadcast but the league refused to investigate

    2006 Roast The Pats-gate – turned heat in their dome up to 90 degrees when they knew several critical Pats players had the flu. At the same time turned off the cold water in the Pats locker room. In the end they still needed a penalty called for “face guarding” which had been removed from the list of penalties 2 years prior to win the game. Face guarding was no longer a penalty at that time. The NFL also never apologized for one of its supposedly best officials calling a non-existent penalty.

    2007 Noisegate – caught on national TV piping in artificial crowd noise during game against Pats

    2011 Suck for Luck

    2012-2014 PED Use (TE Saunders 2012 & 2013, FS Landry (2014), LB Mathis (2014), G Thomas (2014) – hmm is 3 players on the same team busted for PEDs in the same year indicative of a “team wide scheme” to use PEDs ? Is it enough to declare the Colts as a whole “cheaters” ? I have no doubt Ted Wells would say “more probably than not”

    2014 Noisegate – Whining John Harbaugh accused the Colts of piping in artificial crowd noise though it was never proven in this case and after all, it was Harbaugh whining

    2015 Deflategate – 3 of the 4 Colts balls measured by the gauge the league used by the Wells report to determine the psi of Pats balls, however the league and Wells set aside that info as if it didn’t exist and all the Colts balls were legal

    2015 Framegate – the Colts claimed that the DB who intercepted a ball from Brady immediately went to the coaches claiming the ball felt very soft, though when later interviewed said DB claimed he never made any such claim to his coaches and the ball felt “fine”, that ball was then the only one of the Pats balls that was too far under allowable psi levels to be explained by the ideal gas law, the league has refused to investigate the possibility any member of the Colts staff deflated the ball before turning it into the league

  71. limakey says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:43 PM
    It appears the judge believes the balls were tampered with. And I think he also knows it would not have been done without Brady’s knowledge and consent. Brady sits his four.
    ________________________________________

    Either that or blame it on a ‘free-lancing’ ball-man.

  72. Thumbs up & thumbs downs are being manipulated on this website. They are by no means a true reflection of the true percentage of responders who believe he is guilty. Whether it be the NBC hosters or Kraft hiring 20 Bostonians to create multiple accounts, the numbers are being altered by a few to inaccurately reflect the opinions of the many.

  73. Oh my. Now all the fanboys who think it’s cool to hate Goodell because everybody else does will have to hate ESPN because they say the NFL will win. You guys promise to never watch ESPN ever again?

  74. Lester Munson provides a pretty solid legal analysis – you read whatever tripe he writes, and then you know the exact opposite is the truth.

  75. I agree with him and have been saying so since Brady the Cheat threw his hissy fit.

  76. mrsryansfamoustoejam,

    Ya, 99% of the majority you talked about don’t know how Wells “demonstrated” Pats doctored balls.

  77. “OMG, not the Ideal Gas Law again, Florio. Read the Wikipedia entry for the IGL. It’s a joke.”

    Ummm you might try reading a science book instead of Wikipedia which is riddled with mistakes, misinformation and inaccuracies.

    Oh that’s right, you’re a science denier. This kind of voodoo mumbo jumbo is all a fabrication.

  78. #PatriotFootballTalk
    So tedious. Hope there are enough people on this bandwagon to keep a whole site going.
    Also: Patriot fan… You still spell Patriots with 4*’s, BB is still a cheat, Brady still should’ve just admitted it and no amount of posting on any website is gonna change that.

    Nanny nanny boo boo.

  79. While I have no personal knowledge of this Munson fella, never heard of him to be honest. I guess I really don’t watch ESPN that often. I think there is, how ever remote, the possibility that he has some inside information. Just sayin.

  80. “The evidence gathered by attorney Ted Wells for the NFL’s investigation is clear and convincing. The text messages between Brady and two Patriots staffers, the disappearance of the Patriots’ footballs in the moments before kickoff, the history of similar incidents involving Brady and Brady’s stonewalling of the NFL investigators lead to only one conclusion: Brady was clearly involved in an effort to underinflate the footballs to give him a competitive edge.”
    _________________

    Didn’t have to read any further than this to realize he was uninformed and an idiot.

  81. The NFL won the first 6 rounds of the fight, and have been knocked down in each of the last 3 rounds multiple times. Now we have the national press just blasting the NFL league office and only paid for ESPN defending them.

  82. It’s pretty obvious not many of you have taken the time to read the transcript. If you had you would not be making these baseless comments!
    The judge has made it clear that the proceedings need to be fair even though it’s not a court of law. Because the NFL did not allow Tom’s team to view evidence or question a witness the appeal could be vacated.
    Watch my Cousin Vinny, it’s called disclosure.

  83. Florio, I am with you on Munson. I read his columns and my head hurts.

    How does a guy commingle client funds and not get disbarred? How does ESPN, a Disney subsidiary, hire a guy with that on his record?

    I think we know the answer to that last question. People who want what they want, not what their lawyer really thinks, hire guys like Munson.

    Berman clearly does not want to have this go to the second circuit but he isn’t going to give a victory to a side that doesn’t deserve it and gave him the Pash treatment (we both know what he thinks of Goodell protecting Pash from testifying) when he asked Mara to get involved.

  84. redsghost says:
    Aug 21, 2015 8:00 PM
    mrsryansfamoustoejam says:
    Aug 21, 2015 6:33 PM

    It doesn’t matter what the lawyers say or what conclusion the judge makes. It’s pretty obvious to most observers that the Patriots and Brady are a bunch of cheaters.

    25

    77

    Well, if what you’re saying is true as thumbs up is 77 and thumbs down is 25 then you don’t know what the word “MOST” means. Guess you really don’t know what -“It’s pretty obvious to most observers that the Patriots and Brady are a bunch of cheaters.” means as well. Care to show the evidence as to what “most observers ” think? Cause, so far you are obviously wrong!!

    1 2

  85. limakey says:
    Aug 21, 2015 7:43 PM
    I802, JM and JJ bury Brady. Why do you think Brady didn’t have him at his appeals hearing?

    **************************
    You know this how? Maybe Brady felt that they had been through enough. Anyway, both sides agreed that their testimony was not needed at the appeal hearing. I can picture Wells shaking his head at Nash, “don’t go there, it’s bad for us”. Wells omitted the ball guys interview transcript in his report. I wonder why.

  86. thetwilightsown says:
    Aug 21, 2015 8:14 PM

    #PatriotFootballTalk
    So tedious. Hope there are enough people on this bandwagon to keep a whole site going.
    Also: Patriot fan… You still spell Patriots with 4*’s, BB is still a cheat, Brady still should’ve just admitted it and no amount of posting on any website is gonna change that.

    Nanny nanny boo boo.
    ================================

    Wow, what a closing! nanny nanny boo boo ??!?!?!?!?! Are you 8?

  87. Munson has been consistently wrong for years when predicting legal outcomes of sports related cases. (Example: He predicted the federal prosecutors would win over Barry Bonds, then declared the prosecutors the winner when in fact their case had gone down in flames.)

    He is wrong on points of law virtually every time he gives an opinion.

    I honestly am baffled that he ever passed the bar and can’t fathom why ESPN would continue to employ him.

    Since he thinks the NFL will win, I now think it’s a given Brady will.

  88. lester munson says:

    “[Commissioner Roger] Goodell produced a decision on Brady that is brilliantly reasoned, meticulously detailed, and well-written. Goodell’s recitation of the evidence of the tampering with game balls is powerful, and his description of Brady’s attempt at a cover-up is persuasive.”
    vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

    …too funny!

  89. limakey says:
    Aug 21, 2015 8:12 PM
    Nightflyer, right now, that is Brady’s defense
    ======
    Well…I’ll tell ya, I’m not a hater of Brady, he’s an all-time great. And even though I think the Pats are the best cheaters in a league full of cheaters, I think the NFL probably committed more fouls than the Pats in this mess.

    But if it got settled in that unlikely way where it was solely the fault of free-lancing ball-men, I think a lot of people would look at Brady as covered in more slime than the creature in ALIEN.

  90. Feels like the headline is wrong. Perhaps better with some air quotes around “legal analyst”?

  91. dumbaseinstien says:
    Aug 21, 2015 8:07 PM

    Thumbs up & thumbs downs are being manipulated on this website. They are by no means a true reflection of the true percentage of responders who believe he is guilty. Whether it be the NBC hosters or Kraft hiring 20 Bostonians to create multiple accounts, the numbers are being altered by a few to inaccurately reflect the opinions of the many.
    ==================================
    Dumb seems appro so keep the name! What evidence do you have that they are being manipulated? Or are you HOPING that’s whats occurred? When the thumbs up and down were reversed several months ago, I don’t recall you claiming that the NFL or ESPN hiring posters to create multiple accounts even though it’s STILL going on today (Profootball13 and others).

  92. How do unethical people get airtime like this? I suppose anyone with a modicum of ethics would not touch the job of legal hack. Of course it starts at the top and ESPN has serious ethical problems.

  93. .
    How do we know that Pash didn’t ” wordsmith ”
    (aka rewrite) defrocked, former attorney, Munson’s steaming pile of organic fertilizer.

    In his piece, he edits the CBA by asserting that Goodellbot already has the power under article 46 to suspend any player for any amount of time for any conduct he deems ” detrimental ” to the game. Any appeal of these suspensions would be heard by the Goodellbot himself.

    Munson believes that Goodell could have suspended Brady, Gronkowski, and Edelman 5 minutes before the Super Bowl and would have to answer to no one.

    Goodellbot will be selling suspension information to organized crime gambling interests and there will be no oversight or recourse to stop him from determining the outcome of every NFL game.

    If you want the NFL to be run like FIFA, keep supporting the man who makes more than Peyton Manning, Aaron Rogers, and Tom Brady combined.
    .

  94. Nightflyer, I do believe the NFL had no choice. They kept the feds out. I do believe TB is an amazing story. I am just sick of icons, with amazing talent using the excuse of competitive edge as an excuse for rule breaking and then blame every one but themselves.

  95. tedmurph, I appreciate your contrarian position but a few comments if I may.

    1. Do you understand what a client’s fund account is? In Mass, the Board of Bar Overseers would have disbarred this guy or the closest thing to it for what he did.

    2. Legal analysts owe it to the public to speak to both the pros and cons. Munson gave Goodell a tongue bath. If Munson was so right about Goodell’s decison why is Berman smacking around the NFL lawyers like Hagler hit Hearns in round 3 about Goodell’s work?

    3. Berman doesn’t want to set a precedent wherein guys that lose an arbitration appeal but he seems to care about doing his job responsibly. Letting a biased arbitrator railroad someone without direct evidence and then gerrymandering the process and his opinion to deny the appeal is not something I expect Judge Berman will do.

  96. 6 ball and tigerlilac: you’re both good posters and Pats fans, but you’re both starting to go off the deep end.

  97. First, I am not half as smart as Lester Munson.

    But if I were to argue the notification issue with him, I would argue that the most simlar infractions/punishement expectations would be : equipment violation (8k for stickum) and the failure to cooperate (50k in favre’s case) reasonable expectations for Brady’s camp going in.

    Hung on a cross, 4 games, 1.8 MM in lost salary and (although off of his radar) 2 lost draft picks and a million dollar fine for the club should bear some sort of burden of notification. (Maybe, “You could be in deep doo doo.”)

    For a league with a reputation of “making it up as they go along”, I would not only call prior notification a good practice, but probably a requirement of fundamental fairness.

    Hell, even Dean Wormer’s “Double secret probation” had more precedent.

    Bra

  98. tigerlilac,

    Exactly. If Berman sides with NFL, his reputation will be in ruin. If he sides with Brady, the worst is people questioning if he should.

  99. tigerlilac says:
    Aug 21, 2015 8:22 PM

    How does a guy commingle client funds and not get disbarred? How does ESPN, a Disney subsidiary, hire a guy with that on his record?
    _____________________________

    He has been disbarred. Which makes ESPN’s hiring of him even more ridiculous.

  100. Yes, I know what a clients fund account is. Irrelevent. So what if he would have been disbarred. Doesn’t disqualify his experience or legal opinion. That’s why they hired him, not to represent anyone. Ad hominim attacks don’t become you.

    Most unbiased legal analysts, have said, despite all circumstances, the CBA agreement will be hard to overcome. That’s just precedent. Brady will have to overcome it not once, but 3x.

    Very difficult to prove bias. Difficult even more to prove that the players didn’t give Goodell the right to be biased.

    Not happy about this either, but that’s how I see it.

  101. As Munson said, Berman attacked the NFL case because it’s stronger and he wants them to settle. At the end of the day it’s not about fairness, it’s about whether a judge can interfere with an arbitration that has been collectively bargained. The bar is way high. The NFLPA has details, grasping at straws. It’s too bad, but that’s what the players traded for things they wanted more. Listen to MLight’s interview sometime(player rep, last CBA)

  102. seahawkboymike says:
    Aug 21, 2015 7:18 PM
    OMG, not the Ideal Gas Law again, Florio. Read the Wikipedia entry for the IGL. It’s a joke.

    The AEI report was bought and paid for by Kraft, and they were ECONOMISTS not physicists.

    It’s laughable how desperate Pats are to defend an obvious cheater. The best part is going to be watching you all disappear when you don’t even make the playoffs this year.

    ==================
    Both sour grapes and wishful thinking in one post. The composition of a post written by the fan of a team that the Patriots beat. I have read these from colts, steelers, chargers, eagles, panthers and now seahawks fans.

    Very predictable: take 1 part topic du jour, 1 part false delusions, 1 part complete twisting of the facts. Mix and spew.

    I only wish we would have heard from Giant fans.

  103. .
    @tedmurph

    ” 6ball and tigerlilac….. .. You’re starting to go off the deep end ”

    Agreed, but remember, we’ve been following the insanity of Goodell, Wells, Vincent, Pash, Gardi, Blandino,, Kensil, Henderson, Graves, Grigson, Harbaugh, Pagano, Mortenson, Kravitz, Bisciotti, Mara and Jim (El Chapo)) Irsay for months.

    Sometimes I feel like I want to pull a Jim Irsay and drive under the influence through a population center at 10 mph in a 40 mph zone while carrying 11 different prescriptions and 29k in cash, but Goodellbot would suspend me from my owners box for 6 games.
    .

  104. ESPN’s “ace” legal team is nothing but a bunch of morons. After sitting in court daily with attorneys, I can tell you that Munson isn’t that good of an attorney. The guy is a paid legal analyst that should be giving you legal breakdowns of what is going on by analyzing why the judge is asking certain questions and where each side could win the case. Instead Munson is doing nothing but stating why the NFL is going to win without actually listening to the judge. Is said when the reporters see what’s going on more so than Munson does. It doesn’t look good for the NFL with Berman’s questioning. Without everything we’ve heard about the CBA, it looks as though Brady will win. My guess is that Brady misses no games and only gets a fine at most.

  105. seahawkboymike says:
    Aug 21, 2015 7:18 PM
    OMG, not the Ideal Gas Law again, Florio. Read the Wikipedia entry for the IGL. It’s a joke.
    ========
    Anyone who lives in an area where the temp gets below 40 and has a car made after 2012 sees on a gauge in their car that the tire pressure is lower on cold mornings. Or are the Patriots influencing auto makers and tire manufacturers?

  106. I don’t care if they cheat, steal, rob or pork your mother to win a game, they’d beat your pathetic team with a watermelon and all the “cheater” bs just makes it all the better. The haters would kill for having a team that’s won more than anyone in the last 15 years. Losers go home.

  107. As for Munson, I think his commentaries on ESPN and ESPN.com tell us more about the sycophancy of the ESPN executives than about what’s actually going on in court.

    Munson is a constant function. He always supports the commissioner in any legal proceeding he’s asked to comment on, in whatever sport is in trouble at the time. He has no credibility with anybody who knows his background. But he still does damage thanks to his prominent position – most people don’t know just how much of a hack he is.

  108. tigerlilac says:
    Aug 21, 2015 8:22 PM
    Florio, I am with you on Munson. I read his columns and my head hurts.

    How does a guy commingle client funds and not get disbarred? How does ESPN, a Disney subsidiary, hire a guy with that on his record?

    Munson accepted a plea deal and promised to stop practicing law. So now he’s in journalism. It’s similar to how Mike Kensil ended up in the NFL front office: he failed at his first job.

    Did anybody ever think Disney cares about serious journalism?

  109. Hopefully the Pash as a key witness bit will seal it. Berman was adamant that the arbitrator is not allowed to unilaterally decide that key witness testimony is cumulative and deny access to that witness by the appealing party. The right to question/confront your “accuser” is fundamental to the law. Munson conveniently omits that and other arguments that favor Brady. Legally speaking Goodell is allowed to be the judge, jury and executioner. Also legally speaking, he is not allowed to redefine what an arbitration means.

  110. Berman’s line of questioning has perfectly tracked Section 10, Federal Arbitration Act exceptions and the NFL has fumbled the ball. He will vacate the suspension. The NFL/ESPN will be humiliated in the court’s decision and narrative on many fronts. Don’t be surprised if the CBA Arbitration process is suspended pending court order removing the Commissioner from the appeals process. If the NFL is not careful, the judge has the power to refer the case to the DOJ on potential violations of the league’s non-profit status which carries a number of potential requirements that are related to the league’s conduct.

  111. If Brady prevails is it possible that he will use the potential of a multi-million dollar defamation suit to leverage the league to reverse the sanctions placed on the Patriot’s organization? After all, Kraft may be willing to pick up the tab.

  112. ESPN is in a tough spot. If they were to hit the NFL hard, they could take the games to TNT. Without the NFL, they’d lose 90% of their revenue.

    It’s not just Lester Munson…..Chris Mortenson left false information out there and then cancelled an appearance on WEEI suddenly to talk about the leak. I don’t know if the NFL is pressuring them directly, but it seems pretty clear ESPN upper management is concerned about angering them.

  113. Anyone who thinks Tom Brady would commit perjury over this issue is frankly showing profound ignorance. The fact that the league did not factor his testimony into their appeal decision tells the whole story. His testimony, which remains unimpeached, is the only real evidence in this case. It is a sad commentary on our media that they have not stressed this enough. This isn’t Mark McGuire lying under oath about steroid use (although Goodell would like you to think that) this is about a 4 game suspension for some vague involvement in underinflated footballs.

  114. Based on the evidence gathered both the Patriots and Colts only had 1 ball each within the legal PSI limits. We’ve seen what the Patriots have been through. When do the Colts give up their 1st and 4th round picks and have Andrew Luck suspended???

  115. Lester has been on the Sports Radio Talk show circuit in Chicago for years….he sounds very informed, but I’m not an Attorney. Locally he’s gone from CBS to ESPN, and sounds about the same….interesting that he’s been disbarred, the Radio Hosts have never mentioned this and if they had I’d probably have changed the channel when he came on.

  116. I would wager that 90% of espn’s revenues do not come from televising NFL games and I am sure it is not 90% of their net profit

    Further the damage that their actions may bring to the Disney name in their dealings could make the NFL television deal not worth it.

    I can’t wait for Disney to come down on Bristol and clean house

  117. If anything Brady’s legacy will be remembered as the NFL player who stood up to the heavy handed dealings of the Roger Godell era

    Just hope your team is not next

  118. Lets see, last 2 Pats basher were this bozo, disbarred from practicing law, and Jim McMahon.

    Slim pickins!!!!!

  119. I’m not happy about this whole shindig, anymore than any other Pats fan. There’s no way in hell Brady told anyone to under inflate FBs. But, Munson makes valid points. Doesn’t mean he’s right, but to attack the messenger , because you don’t like the message is as weak as haters whining ‘cheaters’ with no facts. The guy has got the job. He’s a legal analyst. He hasn’t been wrong about Brady’s case yet. I hope he is this time.

  120. nightflyer2012 says:
    Aug 21, 2015 7:39 PM

    mmack66 says:
    Aug 21, 2015 7:12 PM
    So how does “the deflator” measure, remove air, and re-measure 12 balls in 100 seconds?

    Do the math…
    ————————-
    =================
    Pretty easily done, especially when it’s become a routine.
    There’s no measuring and re-measuring.
    You lay down the bag, get down on one knee,
    You pull out a ball, stick a needle in it, and count to three.
    Pull out the next ball, etc.
    You don’t give a dorito’s dink about the psi reading.
    you just want the balls a little softer, just a little.
    Very easily done in that amount of time by an NFL equipment guy.

    ———————
    Except it never happened. There’s another thing a guy does in a bathroom that takes about 90 seconds. I’ll let you figure it out.

  121. 3-4 days later you find this story while homering out, well played. I may catch heck for stating this but most of my posts get deleted, even the benign ones. So what do I have to loose? And I don’t even see the thumbs from all the extra stuff blocked here. I hope Brady goes down and out for a very long time. If he had just taken his medicine like all others then I wouldn’t feel so.

  122. Have been particularly concerned about the parade of black current and former players, coaches and reporters who have almost universally convicted Brady of wrongdoing. Is it possible their bias is grounded in years of being the subject of league office decisions and they want an innocent white guy’s head on the platter for once? One would have thought that they would rally on behalf of Brady but the opposite is true. Makes me wonder what they would think if Brady was Cam and the evidentiary basis remained he same.

  123. The haters are ignorant imbeciles who are incapable of coherent thought. Their little minds were made when ESPN Mortensen broadcast the first FALSE report. Brady will win in the end and all the haters will really get their tampons in a twist.

  124. Your sucking up to the cheating Pats* on all fronts is getting really transparent and despicable, Mike. I’m really starting to wonder whether they’re paying you or have something on you. Which is it?

    I’m an attorney, too, Mike and to imply that attorneys can’t have a pretty good inkling of good cases/claims from bad is a joke. You must be a really crappy lawyer…..

  125. You nice people … no one can guess what is on Goodall’s mind… This has been a bag job since day one.

    The Pats will win 11- 13 games and be in the Final 4. They have a crap schedule.

    Munson is a thief. He stole money from his clients / business. The theory that the Pats are cheaters is BS. Spygate? If you care about that you are an idiot.

    Like Deflate-gate they did the same thing as every one else … just from the wrong spot.

    Every QB tweaks their football. For some reason – the NFL wanted to break the Pats dynasty … Six AFC championships … 9 AFC championship games … Lost 2 Super bowls by miracles – won 4 the same ways,

  126. Munson’s opinion is irrational at best. If Judge Berman wanted to pressure the parties to settle he would have been harder on the NFLPA side and telegraphed a potential defeat more clearly. Instead he has clearly zeroed in on the league and its issues and not Brady. Anyone suggesting that by clearly taking the side of the NFLPA’s assertions makes it more likely he will side with the NFL ignores that a settlement will only occur if Brady feels the heat and the judge did not go there. The NFL is about to be humiliated when the award (suspension) is vacated. This judge seems prepared to take the league to the woodshed too which means the narrative could be real ugly.

  127. Never even addressed his views on the matter. Yet took the time to personally attack the man. This should speak for itself smh. This man paved the way for what you do btw.

  128. ESPN have become a joke. Even with their $1 offer to renew my insider subscription it won’t be happening. Biased, in bed with the NFL, poor journalism, not even worth reading most days.

  129. ESPN created this monster and now they are sending out their legal team out to convince the public that all the allegations against Brady and the Patriots are valid. The reputations of Chris Mortensen and Stephen A Smith are on the line. Additionally, the network can’t be objective, given that they have a very significant income stream from the NFL with their MNF contract and the handful of playoff games that they get in the post season. So if you’re ESPN you continue to convince your audience that the Patriots organization is guilty while giving a big wet one to the hind end of the NFL who is your cash cow.

    The new Fox News of 24 hours sports. Don’t offend the NFL to the extent that you can no llonger be objective just like Fox News does with the republican party.

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