Eagles think “dirty” Terrell Suggs tried to hurt Sam Bradford

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Eagles quarterback Sam Bradford saw his first game action in a year on Saturday when he faced the Ravens, and it didn’t take long for Bradford to receive a brutal hit to his surgically repaired knee.

Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs was penalized for hitting Bradford in the knee, and afterward the Eagles ripped him for it.

“He hit him low and tried to hit him around his knees,” Eagles left tackle Jason Peters said. “He’s that type of player who is dirty and will take shots on the quarterback. . . . He’s trying to take a cheap shot at the quarterback. I’m pretty sure he planned it. We practiced against them all week. I’m pretty sure he was thinking about it.”

Bradford confirmed that he thought Suggs was intentionally going at his injured knee, and he had words with Suggs about it.

“I was a little upset,” Bradford said. “I’m not sure I could probably repeat what I said to him. But it’s part of the game and I’m sure it’s not the last time that something like that’s going to happen this year. But hopefully it doesn’t.”

Suggs, however, says the Eagles’ use of the read-option means that the quarterback is a runner and can be hit like a runner.

“When you run the read-option, you have to know the rules,” Suggs said. “If you want to run the read-option with your starting quarterback that’s had two knee surgeries, that’s on you. That’s not my responsibility to update you on the rule. I could’ve hit him harder on that. I didn’t. I eased up.”

Suggs is right that quarterbacks can be hit like runners when they’re running the ball on read-option plays, and the penalty was confusing because the referee announced the penalty as “roughing the passer” even though it wasn’t on a passing play — Suggs hit Bradford after Bradford handed off to Darren Sproles. Roughing the passer was clearly the wrong call, but Suggs still could have been flagged for unnecessary roughness. The league office will likely have more to say about the hit this week.

109 responses to “Eagles think “dirty” Terrell Suggs tried to hurt Sam Bradford

  1. Seriously, if you don’t want your QB hit, don’t run the read option. It seems we go through this every preseason now.

  2. I’d love to see someone end Suggs career so other teams won’t have to worry about him taking out any of their players.

  3. “I eased up”

    What are you smoking Terrell? You aimed straight for his repaired knee. You could have aimed ANYWHERE as you had no blockers.

    Your history of being dirty doesn’t help your story bro. Clean up your game.

  4. Shouldnt have been a penalty because it was a read option but literally no reason he had to go low on bradfrod. Had a clear shot at him

  5. What kind of human being lines up on the first play of a pre season game, knows the QB had gotten rid of the ball, and dives his full weight into a twice repaired ACL Bradford had been rehabbing for two years. A very dirty one with a history who should be fined 100, 000. I’m kind of glad the Ravens went after Bradford because it showed he is fully recovered. Now all he has to do is continue to burn teams who want to play that way.

  6. Not a Eagles or Ravens fan. In fact, quite the contrary. Yes, it was a read option and looked as if Bradford was a runner. That said, Suggs looks to have had a little bit of time to hold up, but didn’t. But was it a dirty/intent-to-harm play? I’d not be so bold to accuse of that. It’s football.

    Look, had it been any QB other than a starter coming of two torn ACLs, no one would have said jack. If Philly thinks Bradford is breakable glass, they best not put him in the game. Bradford doesn’t get his own special rules because of past injuries. Just ask any backup or practice squad QB.

  7. As much as Philly may hate it, Suggs is right.
    If Chip wants to get cute with his surgically repaired QB, then Bradford should expect hits like that every week.

  8. This guy is an idiot. Why are you talking about the read option on a passing down? His Ball so Hard university education is spewing. You should probably take aim at your own QBs knees. 3 of 7, 2 ints. See what happens when Flaccid is called elite? He shows us he’s not. Its going to be a long year for Ravens fans.

  9. Suppose Suggs is correct for a moment. If so, as good as he allegedly is, he could have hit him in the thigh area. It is pre-season, and the need to hit his knee(s) does not exist. Suggs justification defines him clearly—you decide.

  10. Suggs is the type of player Ravens fans love, and the rest of the world hates. Obviously late, obviously intentional, and the “Who, me?” attitude screams, “He is who we thought he was.”

  11. dolphins4 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 6:58 AM
    “I’d love to see someone end Suggs career so other teams won’t have to worry about him taking out any of their players.”

    He could always sign with the Dolphins if you’d like to see an end to his career. Isn’t that the usual place where careers go to die?

  12. It doesn’t matter in this case if it was the read-option. It is still a penalty. The read option doesn’t give defenders freedom to take cheap shots at QBs. This is what Dean Blandino has said on the subject:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000238827/article/niners-jim-harbaugh-nfl-exec-discuss-qb-hit-rules

    Basically, if the QB is in the act of conducting the fake, putting the ball in the RBs belly and it’s a bang-bang split second play then yes the QB can be hit.

    If the QB has already clearly handed the ball off
    and is standing still or moving away from the play, no he cannot be hit.

    Bradford had already handed the ball off and was moving away. The still shots of the play verify this.

    Now even if you think the play was a split-second play and qualifies the QB to get hit because it was a RO it is still a penalty because there’s another rule that says no defender can hit a QB at knee level or below. The rule specifically says “quarterback” not “passer” so it doesn’t matter if it was a read-option play or not.

  13. Later in the drive Bradford got Blasted on a hard hit from Brandon Williams. I had no problem with that play.
    But what’s Suggs thinking diving at the guys knees when he could have tackled him?
    Why would you want to blow up a guys knees who’s coming off two ACLs in the fifth play of a pre-season game?
    That’s the kind of cheap shot that destroys guys knees.
    That so reminded me of when Carson Palmer’s knee got shredded in a playoff game.
    It’s good he got a penalty and I hope he gets fined.
    You can hit the QB on the read-option if he’s the ball carrier, but you don’t lunge for the guys bad knees just because you want to for whatever disgusting reason you have in your head.
    What if he did blow up his knee? I think there’d be a major uproar and everyone would be saying what a dirty hit it was.
    Dirty Suggs. Dirty deed.

  14. I just saw the play in question. Suggs lowered his head and aimed for the QB. If he had kept his head up, he would have made a great play for a loss on the RB. He was intent on hitting the QB, or he would have made a play on the RB. He had enough time to change direction and get the RB.

  15. Four games for t sizzle. That’s clearly conduct detrimental. Harbaugh was at least generally aware of his dirty play. I think a first and forth plus a $500,000 fine for the team and 8 games for Harbaugh.

  16. What kind of human being lines up on the first play of a pre season game, knows the QB had gotten rid of the ball, and dives his full weight into a twice repaired ACL Bradford had been rehabbing for two years. A very dirty one with a history who should be fined 100, 000. I’m kind of glad the Ravens went after Bradford because it showed he is fully recovered. Now all he has to do is continue to burn teams who want to play that way.

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    When has Bradford ever “burned” anyone? He drove a team down the field for rushing TD in the first series of a preseason game. Chill.

  17. Suggs is right, the qb is fair game in that situation and he barely hit bradford..it looked like he was gonna tackle Bradford but realized it was a handoff and let up a little bit.. what was he suppose to do, stand there to see if ye handed it off and then respond accordingly??

  18. Forget Suggs for a moment; Sam Bradford running the read option? Better sign at least one more QB because he will not last with that kind of play calling.

  19. erikinhell says:
    Aug 23, 2015 7:47 AM
    I just saw the play in question. Suggs lowered his head and aimed for the QB. If he had kept his head up, he would have made a great play for a loss on the RB. He was intent on hitting the QB, or he would have made a play on the RB. He had enough time to change direction and get the RB.
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    Bradford handed off long before Suggs put his head down. The only way that would’ve been a great play is if Bradford was holding ball. It was a dumb play that will get you roughing the passer, or personal foul every time.

  20. Suggs hit had nothing to do with the read option. Lowering your head and hitting a QBs knee is a penalty period. And with the player safety concerns, he will be fined. He had plenty of time to not hit him at all, sine he handed the ball off. But to go straight for the knee is a scumbag move.

  21. Suggs looked awful as well, but was hardly just him out there doing that stuff.

    The Ravens had something like 10/120 yards in penalties and would have been a lot more but half of them didn’t get accepted.

    There is a picture of a Ravens player just all out punching an Eagles player in the gut last night floating around other sites.

    Interesting they got called for an illegal substitution the same thing they complained the Patriots were doing to them in the playoffs.

    They also were getting beat so bad they kept the 1’s out way after the Eagles had pulled there group out, and did the same thing with the 2’s.

    The fact is they didn’t even score any point till the 4th quarter.

  22. He’s a dirty player, plain and simple – remember his shot in the Steelers game at the RBs knees when the play was over. I didn’t see any Eagles too upset when the play happened. Take your anger on the football field and not the press room and you may send a message to the rest of the league, you cheap shot the QBs knees and yours aren’t safe either. There tougher than that in Phily!

  23. That should be at least 1 mil and 6 weeks for Scumbag Suggs. If he doesn’t know the rules by now he needs a strong reminder.

  24. As an Eagles fan it was a little late but I really gave no issue with him hitting Bradford on that play. But he went right for the knees. He easily could have tackled him like a normal person and not gone after the knees. That’s why it was clear as day a dirty hit. Especially in the preseason your objective shouldn’t be to purposely hurt someone, well unless your a scum bag.

  25. Sam Bradford is a washed up never has been in the NFL. Suggs is an Elite All Pro. If you want 2 hand touch go to Canada. Man’s game, man’s problems. The flow of the game is so fast and preseason is meant for the elite to go at it hard for 10-15 snaps and call it a day. I suggest Philly starts looking for a QB that hasn’t already ruined his knees and his “psychy”. I feel for all of the soft Philly fans, first Bynum, then Embiid and now excuses for a washed up college QB.

  26. officialgame says:
    Aug 23, 2015 8:34 AM
    I hope the Steelers take him out.

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    There is only one place the stealers could take him out, and that would be to Lunch!

  27. As a Patriots fan I have no dog in the fight. But Suggs is right. Should we just install some moving red velvet ropes around Bradford now?

  28. The focus here should be on how Bradford got up from that hit, got up from another devastating hit that clearly knocked the wind out of him and then went on to have a solid series. The Eagles will be scary this year both for other teams and their own fans. Watching these games with fingers crossed that Bradford doesn’t go down isn’t as much fun as you would think. Again Sanchez looked awful and as a fan, I don’t want him running this offense. This offense is scary good. And this Eagles team has so much depth, defensive coordinators are going to lose sleep weekly when they have to prepare for this three headed monster. #FlyEaglesFly

  29. aroel79 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 8:59 AM
    ….
    If you want 2 hand touch go to Canada. Man’s game, man’s problems.
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    Then why did Suggs get a penalty on the play, genius?

  30. Actually, it’s Suggs who needs updating on the rule. He was the one flagged on the play.

    The read option may expose the quarterback to contact at times, but it’s only legal to contact the passer if he’s in a “run posture.” It’s clear Bradford was not in said position, and thus it was a dirty hit.

  31. Suggs just admitted to trying to injure another player.

    They accused him of deliberately trying to injure Bradford and he never denied it.

  32. bencoates57 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 9:23 AM
    As a Patriots fan I have no dog in the fight. But Suggs is right.

    **********************************************************************

    He’s right because it’s another team’s QB. If Suggs did that the Brady’s knee (in particular if it was closer in time to when Brady came back form the Pollard hit), the collective whine coming out of Boston would be loud enough deafen half the country.

  33. Suggs is right in that his hit was probably technically within the rules.

    But there is no question as to his intent. He had plenty of time to raise his pad level and deliver a higher hit. In fact, he could have delivered a highlight reel de-cleater to Bradford’s chest that would have made Sportscenter. Instead he deliberately hit him in the knees.

    I was reading an article this week about the so-called “unwritten rules” of football. One of them was “don’t intentionally try to inflict injury”. I had to laugh. Someone should read those rules to Suggs.

  34. YES! A Ravens player talking about learning the rules. This is classic. Coming from the team whose coach whined like a baby when the pats whupped them with completely legal formations. But because Harbaugh didn’t read the rule book, I must have been something illegal. What a dink.

  35. Knees don’t impact labor relations, league discipline leverage, owner profits, or owner liabilities. Expect a very slow response.

  36. It’s pre-season Chip Kelly! Why would you show that play, particularly w/ your injury prone, starting QB?? Suggs was dirty, but Kelly is the one who needs to answee for this one!

  37. Looks like chip Kelly not only brought a new offense to Philly, he also brought a bunch of whiney fans.

  38. Maybe Dirty Suggs should learn different types of offenses.

    Bradford does not run a read option offense. It is a zone read offense. Chip isn’t going to run a read option offense with a statue of a QB (Foles, Sanchez, Bradford, Barkley).

    Read option is hand the ball off to the RB, or pull it back and run it yourself.

    Zone option is hand the ball off to the RB, or pull it back and throw it.

  39. eagleslakers says:
    Aug 23, 2015 8:16 AM
    Normally, Suggs would only get a fine but with his track record it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get a 1-gm suspension.
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    If he was a Patriot sure, but he is a Raven. I’ll bet you that Goodell and Vincent claim that they did not know that video of the cheep hit existed.

  40. As a defensive coordinator I would preach to hit the QB hard on every single read option play regardless who has the ball. It wouldn’t be with intent to injure but it would make the opposing coach think long and hard about running it against you. Any hits below the knee are cheap in my opinion though.

  41. I don’t know or care if Suggs is a dirty player. When you watch replay of the hit it’s not clear he going for the knees. It looks like he’s trying to hit him at the waist, or mid body. D players momentum carry them when they launch for a hit, QBs move during the play etc. There are many more examples of guys trying to cheap shot or hurt someone. If you don’t want your QB needlessly hurt don’t play them in a meaningless preseason game.

  42. Suggs isn’t a dirty player… not sure where you all are getting this. He acts like an ass sometimes but he’s never been a cheapshot guy.

  43. Bradford starting to realize what it’s like playing in a “QB proof” offense. No wonder he hasn’t signed an extension.

  44. AFC North football is hard for NFC teams to adjust to, but it is fair under the rules.

  45. nightflyer2012 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 7:42 AM
    Later in the drive Bradford got Blasted on a hard hit from Brandon Williams. I had no problem with that play.
    But what’s Suggs thinking diving at the guys knees when he could have tackled him?
    Why would you want to blow up a guys knees who’s coming off two ACLs in the fifth play of a pre-season game?
    That’s the kind of cheap shot that destroys guys knees.
    That so reminded me of when Carson Palmer’s knee got shredded in a playoff game.
    It’s good he got a penalty and I hope he gets fined.
    You can hit the QB on the read-option if he’s the ball carrier, but you don’t lunge for the guys bad knees just because you want to for whatever disgusting reason you have in your head.
    What if he did blow up his knee? I think there’d be a major uproar and everyone would be saying what a dirty hit it was.
    Dirty Suggs. Dirty deed.

    120 19

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    You mean the play where a Bengal lineman clearly shoves Kemo in the back causing him to lose his balance and stumble into Palmers knee? Yeah that is clearly the same thing.

  46. Bradford gets injured waking up on the wrong side of the bed every morning. One of the softest qbs in the league. No wonder he whines every time someone touches him.

  47. Yeah wasn’t it 24-0 at half with Suggs taking 3 penalties giving the Eagles points on their first drive? And you’re talking about rules? lol

    tictoccpthook says:
    Aug 23, 2015 10:39 AM
    AFC North football is hard for NFC teams to adjust to, but it is fair under the rules.

  48. Diggys being dirty laundry s nothing new. It’s like calling a snail slimey or being surprised that a snake bit you when you tried to pick it up. Suggs is just dirty.

  49. thesteelhurtin says:
    Aug 23, 2015 10:45 AM

    You mean the play where a Bengal lineman clearly shoves Kemo in the back causing him to lose his balance and stumble into Palmers knee? Yeah that is clearly the same thing.
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    I don’t think Cincy fans remember the play that altered their franchise as an innocent stumble!
    The NFL even made a rule as a result of Kemo’s stumbling accomplishment.
    —“A defender cannot initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit the passer in the knee area or below, even if he is being contacted by another player.”

  50. Play was completely clean and shouldn’t have been flagged. There is NO RULE against tackling a runner around the knees… if there was this wouldn’t be football. If you hold the ball on the read-option, you’re a runner. If it was Tim Tebow back there no one would have said a thing about the play; they ran the same sort of stuff later in the game with Tebow taking off with the ball.

  51. Defenders are always wrong. If they hit a player to high its contact to head and if its too low its in the knees. Its a tough game. People get hurt. This was a read option. If Suggs tackles high he gets flagged for contact to the head. The sport is being sissi-fied. All you Raven haters are pathetic. The Steeler fans bashing Suggs forget that Hines Ward was the king of cheap shots.

    PRetty soon football will have the offense playing against air.

    Blame Kelly for running option with a QB with two repaired knees.

  52. I may have missed it, but no comments on a Raven telling someone about the rules??? Lol…the same team who couldn’t figure out who is an eligible receiver and who isn’t? I ain’t called otheirony for nothing.

    Suggs..too funny.

    A PACKER FAN

  53. I thought it was kinda of dirty looking at first glance. Watching the re-play consider the HB was 2 yards up field with the ball and Suggs dove at Bradfords knees it was absolutely a dirty play. Just like the shot he took at the knees of a Steeler that was engaged with another Raven last year.

    You think a vet would have more respect for his fellow players. If he blasts Bradford in the chest after the exchange – fair game. But he was late and low trying to send a message at the start of the game. Ravens will taste their own medicine if that type of thing continues and nobody will feel sorry when it happens.

  54. I think some people missed this play if they are calling it a “read option” play. That, or they have no idea what “read option” means. Bradford already handed the ball off. It was clear and concise. It’s a late, low hit on a QB, that is no longer part of the play. What part of that is clean?

  55. otheirony says:
    Aug 23, 2015 11:34 AM

    I may have missed it, but no comments on a Raven telling someone about the rules??? Lol…the same team who couldn’t figure out who is an eligible receiver and who isn’t? I ain’t called otheirony for nothing.
    Suggs..too funny.
    A PACKER FAN
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    Now that you mention it, the statement Suggs made after the game about the rules and the QB with the surgically repaired knee….now I get why Jason Peters said he thinks Suggs ‘planned it’ and was ‘thinking about doing it’ in the teams joint practices leading up to this game.

    Suggs went right for Bradford and kept coming after the handoff was made. He basically made the wrong football play, he tackled the guy without the ball. Plus the swine came in late and low.

  56. Suggs is a piece of trash. He definitely went low to the back of a steeler last year. It was the cheapest shot I’ve seen since Leroy hill to manningham or jr SWEEZY to Ian Williams. (Really the annual ankle break play that Tom Cable dials up. Tried it again on third play of thanksgiving game).

    Suggs, you’ve got to return Justin Smith’s 2011 DPOY Award.

  57. And then give back your ring. You definitely got a ring only because your DB got away with a 7 yard bump, hold and PI as the ball was in the air.

  58. tictoccpthook says:

    AFC North football is hard for NFC teams to adjust to, but it is fair under the rules.

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    Haha yeah, the Eagles had a tough time with that AFC North team last night. Blowing them out with the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd teams was a difficult adjustment.

  59. “That’s not my responsibility to update you on the rule.” – Suggs

    Sounds like Harbaugh had the team following Brady’s advice this offseason.

  60. Things we learned last night:

    1. “Elite” Joe Flacco can do an “elite” job of throwing picks — I mean how you rack up TWO in like just a single quarter of action?

    2. Maxx Williams continues down the road to Bust City. What kind of morons waste a high draft pick on a cement-foot like that?

    3. Suggs is a drama queen again. Some things never change.

  61. “When you run the read-option, you have to know the rules,” Suggs said.
    ____________________

    Isn’t that ironic? A Raven player admonishing another team to “know the rules”.

    Now where have I heard that line before involving the Ravens?

  62. At the first opportunity he had this year,
    Suggs talking about rules and echoing Brady’s dig on the Ravens last year is a not so subtle shot at Harbaugh for being the crybaby that he is.

    Maybe Suggs has finally had enough of whiny Harbaugh

  63. hess97 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 12:24 PM
    Suggs is a piece of trash. He definitely went low to the back of a steeler last year. It was the cheapest shot I’ve seen since Leroy hill to manningham or jr SWEEZY to Ian Williams. (Really the annual ankle break play that Tom Cable dials up. Tried it again on third play of thanksgiving game).

    Suggs, you’ve got to return Justin Smith’s 2011 DPOY Award.

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    2011 Suggs:

    70 Tackles ,14 Sacks, 2 Interceptions, 7 FF

    2011 Smith:

    58 Tackles, 7.5 Sacks, 3 FF

    Sure looks like Smith deserved it, *rolls eyes* he got half the amount of votes as the 2nd place guy (Jared Allen) and just 1/4 of Suggs.

  64. This illustrates the wisdom (or lack thereof) to running a read option in the NFL. It’s one thing to run it in college with a 20 year old kid that you can only play for four years tops. It is completely different when you’ve got a 30 year old guy who is taking up millions of dollars of your salary cap.

  65. nfl1818 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 9:48 AM
    Knees don’t impact labor relations, league discipline leverage, owner profits, or owner liabilities. Expect a very slow response.

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    I am pretty sure they do see they changed the whole rulebook to protect Qb’s knees. Case in point Tom Brady’s ACL.

  66. Its not Suggs’ job to worry about whether or not a guy is coming off knee surgeries. He’s out on the field like everybody else. If Suggs hits him high, then that’s gonna be called dirty too. The pussification of the NFL (and fans) is unreal.

  67. The Eagles do run some read option but this was a strait handoff. Bradford stood like a statue when he was hit considerably after the handoff. Suggs should get 2 fines one from the league for the hit. And one from the team for missing the play on Sproles because he was predetermined to hurt the QB.

  68. Suggs hit was absolutely legal. If he was hitting Tebow instead of gimpy kneed Bradford this would get no attention at all. Read option QBs aren’t afforded the same protections as a QB in the pocket regardless if they hand the ball off or not. Suggs murdered Kaep in the Superbowl with much worse hits than the one on Bradford.

    “In an officiating video distributed to the media, NFL Vice President of Officiating Dean Blandino says that read-option quarterbacks can be hit like runners, even if they don’t have the ball. If a quarterback who handed off or pitched the ball is still carrying out a fake in a running posture, he can be tackled the same way he would be if he still had the ball.”

  69. lambeauheap says:
    Aug 23, 2015 1:44 PM

    Canedaddy ousted as a crybaby ravens troll
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    I was born in Baltimore and have been a Ravens fan since day one… it’s not a secret. (Never been a crybaby or troll though.)

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