Mara shows up for Brady hearing

AP

The NFL didn’t want him to do it. And he didn’t want to do it. But Giants co-owner John Mara has arrived at the federal courthouse in Manhattan for Monday’s latest hearing in the litigation arising from Tom Brady’s four-game suspension.

Via Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, Judge Richard M. Berman requested Mara to be present, and so Mara is present.

“Requested” is probably putting it mildly. The case filed by the league in Judge Berman’s court listed only one party as the plaintiff: The National Football League Management Council. Mara, not Commissioner Roger Goodell, is the chairman of the NFL Management Council. So Judge Berman has every right to not request but to demand that Mara attend.

The real question is whether other owners will be involved, in person or by phone. The entire NFL Management Council Executive Committee routinely accompanied Goodell for labor negotiations in 2011; why not do the same now?

And spare me the “this is about the Commissioner’s powers” nonsense. Currently, the case is about whether the specific exercise of power by the Commissioner on behalf of the NFL will be upheld or overturned in court. It’s not longer a Commissioner issue. It’s an NFL issue.

Specifically, it’s an NFL Management Council issue. Which is why Mara has been “requested” to attend.

The only question remaining is whether Mara’s presence will soften the league’s position. If, as some believe, Mara is one of the owners pushing Goodell to stand firm, and if Judge Berman can successfully persuade Mara directly — not through messengers or emissaries — on the potential consequences of not settling, Mara may soften and, in turn, the NFL may soften.

109 responses to “Mara shows up for Brady hearing

  1. Yes John, we could see you behind the curtain. Welcome to the show. Now that you cannot be hidden from view, would you like to settle?

    And personally I’m hoping you don’t want to settle. I think the NFL is going to lose this bad.

  2. You can no longer hide behind the Commissioner and the “integrity of the game” line. The owners have pushed for this so it is time for them to have some skin in the game.

  3. Loving this, though have to admit I have expected Mara to say “no” and then end up being dragged to jail because the NFL is the kind of corporation that it would happen to.

    On a serious note, though, yeah, it’s gone far beyond the commissioner. It’s now an NFL problem, and you have to wonder what is going to come of this now that Mara is involved.

  4. I ask the question again, Under what circumstances would a settlement help Tom Brady? He has the evidence on his side. He seems to have the Judge on his side. This has been nothing but a complete fraud by the league offices from the day they “leaked” the false data to Mort. Why would Brady accept any settlement other than a complete dismissal of the charges…..and an apology.

    Anything other than that would be an admission of some sort of culpability and in that respect end up to be a big win for the League. It would also eliminate the possibility of a very winnable 9 figure defamation suit,

    Mike, if you were Brady’s lawyer now, would you recommend he settle?

  5. I am a Giants guy. When it comes to the Maras, John is no Wellington. I hope I am wrong but I can only see him making it murkier if given the opportunity to do so privately. On the other hand if threatened with a public de-panting I have little doubt he would cave.

  6. The guy cheated. There is absolutely no doubt. Adults screw everything up when they get involved. Either punish the Patriots organization and/or punish Brady and move on.

  7. Is this over already? We all know the Patriots are cheaters and should have asterisks next to every win they have.

  8. Hummm… So … what does this mean…????
    IMO… Berman is gonna vacate Brady’s suspension…

    So rather than drag this into the appellate court where the league will argue Article 46 gives them the right to do whatever they want to the players…

    Berman will try to convince Mara and the other members of the management council to agree to a settlement allowing Brady to play.

    Patriots haters gonna go all apoplectic with this development…

  9. If we were truly honest this has never really been about Roger Goodell, who is nothing more than a puppet for the owners. This is about the perception of some owners that they need to control player discipline, lest the league turn into the NBA where the inmates run the asylum. They just picked the wrong example.

  10. Mara’s getting the “you’re going to lose” sermon by Berman. Berman’s going to point out to “the plaintiff” the god awful job their stooge did in his “prosecution” of Tom Brady and the Patriots. Mar’s knees will go weak and this debacle comes to an end when Mara mutters, “Never mind Judge, we quit.” Then he turns to Mr. Tom Brady and extends his hand and says “Good luck against the Steelers”.

  11. If the NFL had done its job after learning balls might be under 12.5 psi, this entire thing would never have blown up. Crazy it’s come to this.

  12. Brady could offer 100 million dollars to find a cure for cancer, and 31 owners would say “NO.” They want him off the field for as many games as possible, so that the fanboys of THEIR teams will get off their backs to have a puncher’s chance of making the playoffs, much less a SB.

    If these fans started watching the NFL at 17, 18 or so, these same fans are now in their mid-30’s, maybe married with kids….and watching the same quarterback torch their team, year after year. The don’t want money, or talk…they want him off the field.

    Brady is the G.O.A.T.

  13. Judge calls everyone but not the ones who definitely know what did or didn’t happen. Mind-boggling.

    Do the Pats cheat? Absolutely.
    Did the NFL prove Brady cheated? Absolutely not.

    There’s enough for the judge to vacate the decision, and I think he will.

    I’m not saying Brady’s totally innocent but there’s innocent, there’s guilty, and there’s not proved. This case is not proved.

    I will not stand by and see someone rail-roaded. Not even a member of the cheating Pats.

    This has been a disgusting display by the NFL. A light has been shined on them flat out framing people in this and other investigations.

    At the least, Goodell should be removed from the matters of player discipline. He’s been shown to be like the warden in Shawshank Redemption.

    Too bad Kraft accepted the team penalties. That now seems ill-advised. Then he blew his top when Brady lost the appeal. Did he think he had a gentleman’s agreement? Was he the victim of a swindle?

    No first round pick for you Pats fans. But I bet Brady skates free.

    No satisfaction on one front, since we never got to hear from the Deflators. Oh I know Pats fans will say they were interviewed numerous times. But not once since the texts were discovered.

    I know their testimony was not even included in the Wells report. So why did Kessler not even try to put these two friendly witnesses in front of the judge? Why was the judge not curious to hear from the most two important people in the case?

    I think I know why. Neither side wants the real story out there. Kids need heroes. No one wants to have to explain to all the little Jimmies and Jennies in Boston that their hero is a big liar.

    My prediction: Decision vacated.

    1. The judge rips Goodell and the NFL a new one. He points out that their actions were so egregious that this case is one of the rare times an arbitration gets overturned. He gives them a verbal beating and warns them to check themselves in the future.

    2. He briefly scolds Brady for some things he should’ve done better.

    3. Wells mustache ordered impounded and placed in a 90-day quarantine.

  14. brady will be under center sept 10…….and the deal will be brady gets 25 thousand for not being more cooperative….and that’s it 4 games over turned …..and he drops the idea of suing the nfl for 1 billion dollars……

    suck on that truth

    brady is so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!! he is the true GOAT !!!!!!

  15. You have to love the face that Mara is making in the picture that goes along with this post. It looks like he is sucking on an entire box of Lemonheads.

    I figure that he is going to be making the same face just about all of today.

  16. John Mara is in attendance for all the teams in the league that can’t beat the Patriots on their own. Hey all you football players that break your bodies for this game, your owners are saying you’re not good enough to beat the Patriots without Tom Brady. How does that make you feel

  17. What happened to last weeks version of the “Management Council” that clearly indicated it would hand pick which teams it would defend and which teams it would let dangle in the storm.

  18. NFL is at a disadvantage in this case nearly across the board. At best they will posture and make grandiose claims until the last second but their lawyers know they have no leverage.

  19. So John Mara doesn’t want to participate becuase wait for it… Because the patriots play the Cowboys week 4 and doesn’t want to give the pats an advantage by beating his number 1 rival with Brady at qb. Makes total sense and I’m sure the judge will side with the NFL on the one also, not really (whispered.)

  20. There was a colloquialism that we use to say to people who made too big a deal out of something insignificant: “Don’t make a federal case out of it.”

    Amazingly, that’s exactly what the NFL had done.

    Clearly, this isn’t about psi.

  21. wannabear says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:25 AM
    Regular season Football please..
    ——————————————————

    Only one problem with that….We don’t know who our QB will be. It will probably be Brady. It sure as hell should be Brady!
    We would love to get on to “Regular season Football”, but we have a moron commissioner, and a bunch of jealous, butt-hurt owners standing in the way of that.
    Here’s to Judge Berman not only making the correct decision, but to publicly, and absolutely berating the NFL for this witch-hunt, and constant lying. The NFL can’t be trusted. It is now out in the daylight, for all to see, what an incredibly dishonest group of habitual liars they all are.

  22. Finally. We get to hear from one of the puppet masters in the flesh. By the way I’m a Skins fan still pissed about Mara’s role in punishing the Skins for not colluding during an uncapped year. I just hope somehow that gets brought up with Mara under oath. A man can dream can’t he?

  23. This is the last thing any owner wanted. Be interesting to see some other owners shaking in their shoes now.
    Because at the end of the day, everyone who has actually paid attention and looked at the facts know this has been a witch hunt from the get go.

  24. nightflyer2012: “So why did Kessler not even try to put these two friendly witnesses in front of the judge?”

    —The Patriots ball boys cannot be called upon to witness by the judge, by Kessler, by the NFL, or by ANYONE. Why? They did not testify in the arbitration hearing, which is what this trial is about. No witnesses other than those involved in the arbitration hearing CAN be called at this trial.

    This has been explained over, and over, and over again…

    There are no surprise “gotcha” witness reports even possible.

  25. I dont know if this is god for Brady and New England for Mara to show up. The Giants have owned the Patriots in years past, so this might not be a good thing for Brady and Co.

  26. It’s obvious Brady is innocent.

    The scientists that have checked this the most thoroughly say the pressures were what they should have been in the given weather. Gay-Lussac’s law is pretty simple actually. A 20F drop results in a 1psi drop, and the rain results in another ~.4psi drop – check figure 28 in Exponent’s appendix in Wells’ report for that.
    If you do a Gay-Lussac’s calculation for yourself, make sure you use Kelvin, and psia (27.2) NOT psig (12.5).

    If you want to say that the Colts’ didn’t drop as much, you would be wrong. The Pats’ were measured right away at halftime, then they were inflated, THEN 4 of the Colts’ were checked. They had significantly more time to warm back up, which increases the pressure. If you want to see how fast the pressure rises in this situation, look at figures 21/22 in Exponent’s appendix in Wells’ report.

    If you look, you will find a few scientists who think Brady cheated – but these physicists neglect the effects of the rain, or were working off the original “11 were 2 psi under” report which is now known to be erroneous. The 11 averaged 11.49psig by the logo gauge, which is what was used pregame (google ‘Dave Garofalo Swan Boat’ for an explanation to that mystery).
    That’s only 1 psi below the legal minimum, easily explained by the temperature and rain.
    The 12th (intercepted by D’Qwell Jackson) was measured 3 times by NFL exec James Daniel – with Jastremski’s gauge – and averaged 11.52psig.

    Google ‘Drew Fustin deflategate’ for a pretty thorough analysis of the numbers. If you disagree with his conclusion, you better be able to find a mistake in his reasoning.

  27. If Kensil & Vincent were not ignorant of The Ideal Gas Law they would have know the intercepted ball , which measured 3 different PSI, were all within the expected limits. End of story.
    As Mr Kraft said it was NEVER about the truth , rather about proving the NFL right.

  28. brady will be under center sept 10…….and the deal will be brady gets 25 thousand for not being more cooperative….and that’s it 4 games over turned …..and he drops the idea of suing the nfl for 1 billion dollars……

    suck on that truth

    brady is so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!! he is the true GOAT !!!!!!

  29. Mara, just another slimebag in Roger’s pocket. An owner of a high profile team who is on the competition committee and management council, in the backyard of the league offices? No conflict of interest there. It was completely legit when they docked the Skins and Cowboys for failing to engage in collusion back in 2010. Dirtball.

  30. No crime was committed here. The difference between theory and actual for the football psi was within 0.2 psi which is within experimental error. Thus the leagues punishment is fraudulent. Because of this, not only will the judge vacate Brady’s suspension, but will likely add language to the ruling adding an avenue so the Patriots can go after lost draft picks and team fines.

  31. reebsta says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:39 AM

    John Mara is in attendance for all the teams in the league that can’t beat the Patriots on their own. Hey all you football players that break your bodies for this game, your owners are saying you’re not good enough to beat the Patriots without Tom Brady. How does that make you feel
    ———————————————–
    Might be onto something. Follow me. What team has beaten the Patriots when for all intents and purposes they were beaten? What team beat them after two of the most unlikely receptions in NFL history? I say the NFL is desperate and is going with the one team lucky enough to actually beat Tom Brady and the Patriots in miraculous fashion because let’s face it, it’s going to take a miracle to beat Tom Brady in this case.

  32. What? Mara is so clearly inclined to kiss Goddell’s butt and screw Brady.

    Mara wants to keep Goddell happy so he can keep running the league e.g. “salary cap violations” against his competitors.

    On the other hand, New England is a rival and he’s already shown that he will use the “rules” cripple his opponents.

    In one universe is John Mara impartial enough to be helpful to this process?

  33. For all you armchair lawyers who go on and on about the evidence, it is essentially irrelevant in a challenge to an arbitration hearing. The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that mistakes of law or fact by an arbitrator are not a basis to vacate an award, and that an arbitrator has almost unlimited discretion with respect to evidence issues. Pretty much, he has to allow each side to present a case, but the courts have no problem with the arbitrator restricting the evidence or making rulings on admissibility that are at odds with prevailing law.

    The courts take the position that if you choose to arbitrate, don’t come crying to us later. I once had a case in front of an arbitrator who DID have an award vacated – because he was having an affair with the attorney for the winning party.

    This award can be vacated if the Judge rules that Goodell broke the rules of the arbitration process itself – which are usually very broad. Not because “the balls weren’t deflated” or “there was no direct evidence Brady knew.” Any decision based on the facts of the underlying case will get overturned on appeal.

  34. jag1959 says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:26 AM
    I am a Giants guy. When it comes to the Maras, John is no Wellington. I hope I am wrong but I can only see him making it murkier if given the opportunity to do so privately. On the other hand if threatened with a public de-panting I have little doubt he would cave.

    ***

    He’s no Wellington that’s for sure, but these are certainly different times than when Wellington helmed the organization.

    How can you blame John for avoiding this at all costs, being dragged into this PR nightmare full of prideful, lying, megalomaniacs?

    But this is why he makes the big bucks. He likes both Kraft and Goodell. He needs to just ignore everyone and just be honest and do whatever’s right

  35. It is pretty obvious that the Judge thinks he needs to intimidate the side that is LEAST willing to compromise.

    I wonder why that is? Why is Brady willing to compromise? Because he does not want the ball boys to testify.

    Even if the Judge vacates or delays the suspension, the NFL will appeal. The NFL isn’t budging because they have the goods on Brady.

    Justice can be bought in this country. Just ask OJ. However, the NFL owners are too wealthy to be bought.

  36. After Judge Berman tears him a new one, watch for Goodell to change tactics.

    He’ll now attempt to suspend Brady for wearing a glove on his non-throwing hand. Because Brady wears such a glove, that makes Brady “generally aware” that Odell Beckham Jr. was gaining a competitive advantage as a receiver.

  37. “The NFL isn’t budging because they have the goods on Brady. ”
    What goods? It’s been scientifically proven, both mathematically and experimentally, that the footballs were not deflated.

  38. whitetrash69 says:
    It couldn’t be more obvious Brady is Guilty. The only people who think otherwise need to in order to compensate for some personality or personal flaw.
    ____________________

    Nothing could be less obvious or is entire dog and pony show would not be happening. What is fairly obvious is that you have not read and compared the now publicly available documents.

    I am a Giants guy. I had no dog in this fight and at first was a fairly disinterested observer. Like a lot of folks the phony ‘leaked’ psi numbers had me thinking some cheating must have gone on. Now having observed the league’s actions, read the emails from the Patriots to the league office practically begging them to release the truth regarding the actual psi levels and the disingenuous responses to them, compared the appeal transcripts to the league’s release upholding the suspension and seen the league move the goal posts as to the nature of the offense I am anything but.

    It is hard to believe anyone with an open mind could read the appeal transcript and come away supporting the league’s position. This league is being operated by duplicitous leaders that truly lack any understanding of what the word integrity means.

    This has morphed into a management vs labor issue as well as a League Office vs individual team statement. It is apparent that the league office interprets the CBA to mean they are all powerful as regards investigation and discipline, the NFLPA obviously holds a slightly differing view. When you want to make a lasting statement you go after the biggest guy in the room. Let’s also not forget Brady was the NFLPA’s lead plaintiff in the antitrust suit. If the League Office can take down Brady and make Bob Kraft knuckle under what other player or owner would even try them on? When it comes to labor law and civil suits precedent is huge. The league’s goal here is to set a sweeping precedent that rewrites the law of the shop and handcuffs future player appeals.

  39. nightflyer2012 says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:35 AM

    Judge calls everyone but not the ones who definitely know what did or didn’t happen. Mind-boggling.

    Do the Pats cheat? Absolutely.
    ********************************
    And so does every other team. It is only called “cheating” when the Pats loosely “interpret” poorly written rules to gain an edge.

  40. I do not believe Brady should be suspended. That is because I do not believe the Wells report is a correct representation of the facts. Goodell does believe the report and based off that belief he suspended Brady. This entire case is about whether Goodell has the authority to make that decision rather than if the decision was correct. I believe the CBA says he has that authority. If that is correct then the rest of the details do not matter. The NFLPA authorized the procedures. They never challenge his authority when his decision benefits the player. They authorized him to make decisions. They did not authorize him to only make decisions they agree with. Legally the suspension should stand but practically the suspension is based on shaky data. I think the league acted inappropriately but that is a different matter and not what is before the judge right now. The judge’s job is not to determine Brady’s guilt or innocence. It is simply to determine whether or not Goodell can punish him as he did under the clause of the CBA used for justification. That’s it. Everything else fogs the issue.

  41. John Mara can tell them about at least 2 games where the Patriots didn’t cheat.

    Or at least, didn’t’ cheat successfully

    🙂

  42. Jay Feely showed up with Brady ….. The jets were implicated in ball tampering in 2009, and only the equipment people were implicated ….. Feely was the kicker surrounding the event and was never pondered for general awareness

  43. truthprofessor says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:52 AM

    nightflyer2012: “So why did Kessler not even try to put these two friendly witnesses in front of the judge?”

    —The Patriots ball boys cannot be called upon to witness by the judge, by Kessler, by the NFL, or by ANYONE. Why? They did not testify in the arbitration hearing, which is what this trial is about. No witnesses other than those involved in the arbitration hearing CAN be called at this trial.

    This has been explained over, and over, and over again…

    There are no surprise “gotcha” witness reports even possible.
    ————————————————-
    Ugh, this whole deflategate thing is making me lose my mind! Let me try again. I must have missed Mara’s testimony at the appeal process. If he didn’t testify that kind of makes your point mute, no? I think the judge can call whoever he thinks is pertinent to the case. But I may be wrong. Nobody is perfect. In Goodells case he proves that often when he goes to court.

  44. truthprofessor says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:52 AM
    nightflyer2012: “So why did Kessler not even try to put these two friendly witnesses in front of the judge?”

    —The Patriots ball boys cannot be called upon to witness by the judge, by Kessler, by the NFL, or by ANYONE. Why? They did not testify in the arbitration hearing, which is what this trial is about. No witnesses other than those involved in the arbitration hearing CAN be called at this trial.
    ========================
    Assuming there’s no settlement, (and it just got reported that there won’t be) and one side appeals the ruling, is there ANY scenario where the ball-boys might testify in some subsequent proceeding? And I didn’t know Mara was involved in the hearing.

  45. One of the main functions the commissioner is supposed to perform – maybe the main function – is keeping the owners out of court. The last thing they want to do is show the world just how loony and senile they are.

  46. I heard it was quite an operation to get him there. First they turned on the lights in his favorite dive bar, and when he scuttled towards the alley the nets had to hold until the traq dart took effect. It was apparently touch and go.

  47. After continually reporting Mara would not attend the Brady Hearing in Judge Berman’s court, here is what the fair and balanced ESPN reported today when Mara showed up in that very court:

    “The league is “quite confident” about the strength of its case and the likelihood that it will prevail on the law if the judge does rule, sources tell ESPN. But there is some degree of concern about angering the judge by refusing to settle, and that concern keeps alive the possibility that the case could get settled before a ruling is issued.”

    Despicable.

  48. I’m hoping Mara is there to consider the settlement Judge Berman is floating: Brady will pay a fine for not turning over phone; Goodell gets fired.

    NFL still gets away too easy but I can live with this.

  49. Mara heads the organization that has its name on the legal filing in Judge Berman’s court, does he not? Florio was quite clear on that point.

    Plaintiff: The National Football League Management Council

  50. I would loved to have seen Rooney Mara’s character, Lisbeth Salander, from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, show up to court as part of Brady’s defense after digging up dirt on Goodell and the owners.

    That would scare the heck out of those pompous clowns.

  51. New York is where this whole mess was started from. New York is the central location for the league and the media outlets who cover the league. If the players involved who worked together on this set up against the Patriots came from it would be New York City. There is now no doubt that the Patriots were a target, but why is the question. Envy, jealousy, money and power are the roots of this wide spread witch hunt.Mr. Mara needs to bring some honesty to the leagues real motivation behind all this.

  52. I see not only does Goodell have the wrong understanding of the CBA–(Doty) A lot of posters do as well.
    The CBA says the process must be fair. Federal Law trumps CBA because of nitwits mishandling of this case.
    There is no evidence, even the NFL Attorney Nash made that statement to Judge Berman! The NFL’s case is this. Goodell is the Commish and he can mete out any punishment he wants..
    That is ridiculous.. Article 46 doesn’t say that. Get some facts and or evidence or lose in Court. The NFL has neither and Berman was probably telling Mara just that! Last chance NFL…Ok here we go…you get nada. No suspension, no fine. You didn’t prove anything, because Brady didn’t do anything.

  53. Why is it that nobody asks for ball boy input…..Not Brady, not NFL, not the Judge…hmmmm?

    The one thing they can ALL agree is to not humiliate Tom Shady with Patriot fans. Patriot fans can deny anything but that. Therefore, this is really an agreement of allowing Brady to save face with the rest of the NFL, versus the interest of the NFL to maintain discipline. The Patriot fans are in a different universe that are left to believe Brady is either not guilty, or that it doesn’t matter. This is not about them.

  54. jag1959, you and I are on the same page. This stopped being about inflation/deflation, if it ever was to begin with, weeks ago. It’s about the league being able to wield an even heavier stick than they already do. Who’s next is all that’s left to ask if the League wins this.

  55. In the end, I think the Judge really has no right to overturn. This is a negotiated deal between players and owners. Bad precedent and not sure there are any real legal grounds to vacate the ruling.

  56. In my opinion this whole thing went out of control…

    thanks to Goodell and a few idiot NFL owners,

    Dumb & Dumber team once again.

    All the NFL had to do was admit they mis-understood that psi drops when temp. drops and move on.

    The moment this case went to federal court the NFL’s “Witch hunt” scandal was going to be exposed.

    The NFL either got bad legal advise (not likely)… or ignored their own lawyers.

    Let’s see if the NFL “blinks”…

    or continues attempting to defend the indefensible.

  57. cwwgk says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:41 AM
    Mara and other owners should have been there all along. Goodell takes the heat, but he does the bidding of the owners.
    __________________________________________
    Wrong. Goodell epitomizes narcissism. He hates Brady, with a passion. Probably even more than he hates the memory of Richard Nixon, who railroaded his father’s chances of being elected a Republican Senator. Brady stands for everything that Goodell can never, ever be. Goodell will never be a player in the NFL, he will never be an MVP recipient, he will never be a SuperBowl winner, he will never be a SuperBowl MVP recipient, he will never be elected to the Hall of Fame, either as a player and now, not even for being important to the NFL, he will never be revered as one of the best players to ever play the game. He can’t and won’t ever be any of those things. That’s what irks Goodell and has driven him to this state of borderline insanity. It has nothing to do with doing the bidding of the owners. It is his own doing. Time to go Roger. Way past time to go.

    And by the way, even Limakey agrees with me on this. I think.

  58. Four games based on ‘it was more probable than not that Tom Brady (the quarterback for the Patriots) was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities…’ is a joke, and not reducing it because Brady did not cooperate is unprecedented.

  59. Even if Judge Berman sides with the NFL he’s already humiliated the Commissioner and the NFL for their lies and warped system of “justice”

    Those jealous of NE just don’t get it!

    There’s only one person who has lied and cheated – and Judge Berman has already called out Goodell for that

  60. For the haters that seem to think they win just by the fact that Brady was prosecuted by the NFL, I would remind you that throughout history many of the greatest individuals were unjustly prosecuted and persecuted: Socrates, Christ, Galileo, Gandhi, MLK, and Mandela, to name a few.

  61. Not only will this be vacated, but Goodell will be ordered to apologize to Mr. Brady.

    The best ending to this story is the PATS winning Superbowl 50!

  62. nightflyer2012 says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:35 AM

    ……………..3. Wells mustache ordered impounded and placed in a 90-day quarantine.
    _________________________________________
    Nightflyer,
    You actually contradicted yourself several times, specifically about Brady’s guilt. But I have to give you props on your third prediction. That is spot on.

    And I am positive even Limakey agrees with me on that. I think.

  63. Mara is an excellent choice, as he is associated with the one team in the League whose players, coaches and fans do not have an irrational fear and hatred of the Patriots.

  64. Judge already got the NFL lawyers to admit they have no direct evidence against Brady. They only way the NFL gets the verdict is because of Article 46, not because of Brady’s guilt. Only person caught lying has been Goodell.

  65. He is going to add another penalty to the Patriots. He is going to take cap space from them. Mara is a leach on other teams. He needs other teams to be penalized as much as possible so his Giants look some what decent. How ever his daughter can come over anytime.

  66. patsrule59 says:
    Aug 31, 2015 1:51 PM

    I want to see all text messages and emails between Mara and Goodell.

    Sorry, Mara smashed his phone to pieces on July 4th.

  67. indymarc says:
    Aug 31, 2015 10:34 AM

    If the NFL had done its job after learning balls might be under 12.5 psi, this entire thing would never have blown up. Crazy it’s come to this.
    ———————–

    None of this ever should have seen the light of day.

    Once they got schooled that cold weather naturally “deflates” things inflated with air, the whole thing should have ended right there.

    Unfortunately, they had already leaked the false “11 of 12 Patriots footballs 2PSI under” information, so it was too late to turn back.

  68. pologroundsvet says:
    Aug 31, 2015 3:09 PM

    Putting John Mara in an untenable situation.
    —————————

    Oh well. Maybe next time they will think twice before starting another hopeless fiasco.

  69. Now that Mara is involved, does this also make him subject to a defamation suit by Brady?

    He went along with the scheme didn’t he?

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