Texans owner says J.J. Watt wouldn’t destroy his phone like Brady

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Texans owner Bob McNair puts the blame for Deflategate squarely on Tom Brady, saying that if Brady would have cooperated with the NFL’s investigation, the matter could have been resolved much more easily.

McNair said on 610-AM in Houston that a player should be willing to cooperate with the league, and that he’d expect his own best player to cooperate in a league investigation.

“What escalated the whole thing is that Brady and the Patriots were going to cooperate fully, and then when it came down to it, they didn’t,” McNair said, via ESPN. “If it was J.J. Watt, I think he would have been cooperative, and it wouldn’t be a question. . . . I don’t think J.J. would destroy his cell phone.”

McNair is convinced that the Patriots deflated footballs to gain an edge, and that the NFL did the right thing in cracking down.

“In the minds of somebody in that organization, they thought it was important. They thought it would give them a competitive advantage, and that’s why they did it,” McNair said.

As Roger Goodell continues to face criticism over Deflategate, McNairs comments indicate that at least one of Goodell’s 32 bosses think he has done his job well.

256 responses to “Texans owner says J.J. Watt wouldn’t destroy his phone like Brady

  1. Advice to Bob McNair: don’t destroy your cell phone either. It might look bad when Brady sues.

  2. what does it matter if it was jj watt or desean jackson it was his personal phone and the league has no legal right to it destroyed or not

  3. THATS RIGHT! While a young org. The Texans owner and team are a class act. The Texans have less player arest than any other team , BY FAR.

  4. what does it matter if it was jj watt or desean jackson it was his personal phone and the league has no legal right to it destroyed or not !

  5. According to Ted Wells, Tom Brady fully cooperated. He answered every question the biased investigator asked him.

    Brady was advised by counsel not to turn over his cell phone and I don’t blame him. I wouldn’t trust Ted Wells to keep the information private either. The contents of his personal e-mails that have nothing to do with Deflategate were exposed.

  6. The problem is, Roger Goodell defines anything short of Brady confessing his guilt and agreeing with 100% of the Wells Report’s findings as “failure to cooperate”.

  7. This just highlights that these guys – the owners – don’t know the details. They don’t even have the basic facts straight. Apparently they are only going off ESPN

  8. Agreed, no one without anything to hide destroys their cell phone on THE DAY they are meeting with investigators.

    Once a cheat, always a cheat. You cannot defend this absurd behavior.

  9. Another ROWD (rich old white dude) that surely didn’t read the Wells Report or even know about things like setting precedent for future players when they are raked over the coals in an “investigation”. NFLPA says don’t give up your phone, so I’m not sure about you Bob, but when my lawyers tell me to do something I do it. Especially since the NFL would have inevitably leaked Tom and Giselles private photos to Mort or Stephen A. Why doesn’t Bob just worry about his pathetic franchise than something he obviously knows nothing about?

  10. Why would JJ Watt even think about destroying his phone? He didn’t cheat and so would have no need to do that.

    Can we also assume Mr. McNair would never hire a Texan employee for side line work and call him, “Deflator”?

  11. I agree, JJ Watt isn’t nearly as well known as Brady and is not married to the most powerful super-model in the world. He has far fewer reasons to want to destroy his old phone.

  12. Right. They must have deflated those footballs 0.2 PSI to gain an edge.

    I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt that:

    1. He’s too busy to actually read the wells reports and appeal hearing transcript

    2. He’s not famous enough to need to worry about people trying to find “inappropriate” pictures of his wife on his old phone.

  13. Yet he says there’s no conclusive evidence…so we should “crackdown” because you Think he did it??? And WHy dictate what JJTwat would do?

  14. So someone as intense as JJ Watt would surrender his personal communications to a league that has shown itself duplicitous and leaked unrelated personal communications in the past? Sure he would and then he’d shine Goodell’s shoes too right? Give me a break

  15. He should mind his own business, his team could be next.
    Plus, they play the Patriots this season. Thanks for the bulletin board material.

  16. So JJ Watt would have given up his phone even though he wasn’t asked for it? I thought Wells didn’t want the physical phone.

  17. Its common practice for celebrities and star athletes to destroy their cell phones, as well as shredding personal documents before taking out the trash. There are a lot of people who would pay big money for Tom Brady’s old sim card. Every security firm would advise a person of notoriety to take certain measures to protect their privacy.

  18. Oh I feel better now. What a useless statement! If I were an owner
    I would be pissed at Goodell for allowing the matter to get so far out of
    hand. Not to mention all the money the owners have spent on an issue that should have been dealt with before the game. Ego, ego, ego!

  19. Does the guy realize what he’s doing to his football team?

    You’re begging Belichick to run up the score. Don’t act surprised and outraged when it happens.

  20. Wait, what? Why is an owner even talking about this at this point? Given it’s in the courts right now would be a really good time to stay quiet.

  21. shocking, the owner of a team the Patriots have curbed-stomped routinely went on an ESPN affiliate and was pro-NFL??? Does this moron realize Brady’s phone is not what escalated this story but rather Mortensen’s false report fed to him by the league and the league sending a letter to the Patriots that also had false data? Brady handing over his phone wasnt even a consideration yet when this story was leading every evening news program in the country.

  22. Good for McNair. He had an opinion on Deflategate and he sounds like a fool.

    Noone who is involved with or comments on this dopey goose chase comes away looking good.

  23. Mcnair has Brady’s old offence coordinator and two of his backup quarterbacks, talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Pretty sure JJ would do what his union and legal team advised him to do not what thinks his owner would like him to do…field a better team and stop whining about what others are doing

  24. todd6162 says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:16 PM
    he cheated that’s why he didn’t hand over his phone

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Todd,

    Please answer me this simple question:

    You are at work and accused of some sort of wrong doing. For this exercise, it doesn’t matter if you’re guilty or not.

    You get called into Human Resources along with your boss and you are questioned for over 5 hours. You answer every question that is asked of you.

    Several months later, you are asked to hand over your PERSONAL cell phone……

    What would YOU do?

  25. I must have missed the part where it was proven that deflated footballs gives a team a competitive edge.

    Is that something the NFL had Exponent work up?

  26. League tells Brady they don’t need his phone, just the info on it.

    Brady provides said info and destroys phone.

    League punishes Brady for destroying phone they said they did not need.

    McNair thinks this is logical and makes sense.

  27. welltobefair says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:17 PM

    2. He’s not famous enough to need to worry about people trying to find “inappropriate” pictures of his wife on his old phone.

    ———————————————————–
    Let’s get this straight once and for all. Brady got terrible advice from Don Yee. And it burned him.

    Ted Wells – ‘Most of the key evidence in this case, as in most cases, comes from people’s cell phones, and he (Brady) refused to let us review the phones.

    And I want to be crystal clear. I told Mr. Brady and his agents, I was willing not to take possession of the phone. I said, “I don’t want to see any private information.” I said, “Keep the phone. You and the agent, Mr. Yee, you can look at the phone. You give me documents that are responsive to this investigation and I will take your word that you have given me what’s responsive.” And they still refused.’

  28. Per Stephanie Stradley on Twitter:

    “Bob McNair is a reasonable owner
    Reasonable owners don’t read 1000s of pgs of documents
    They rely on NFL/news reports
    That are often wrong”

    I think that’s a fair assessment of McNair’s comments, if he’s relying on NFLN and/or ESPN…how could he think otherwise?

  29. whatjusthapped says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:16 PM
    Why would JJ Watt even think about destroying his phone? He didn’t cheat and so would have no need to do that.

    Can we also assume Mr. McNair would never hire a Texan employee for side line work and call him, “Deflator”?

    ===================

    So does Cushing call himself the inflator? Or am I not up to date on the steroid lingo these days?

  30. “In the minds of somebody in that organization, they thought it was important.”

    Ok. Balls were at 12.5 PSI (according to “best recollection” of Anderson. The Ideal Gas Law estimates they’ll be down to 11.32-11.52 PSI by halftime (this is scientific law). The average of all Pats balls was ~11.45, and the average of the 3 balls that fell outside of the estimated range was 11.14 PSI.

    So, McNair thinks someone felt it was important to deflate balls by a SMALL FRACTION of a one pound per square inch. And that all assumes they started at exactly 12.5 to begin with. Angels dancing on the head of a pin indeed.

  31. THATS A REALLY DUMB COMMENT

    Bet McNair did not read transcripts….none of the other owners either.

  32. vancouversportsbro says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:22 PM

    Agreed with the Texans owner here.

    Brady is a cheater and got caught red handed.

    Someone with true integrity like JJ would hand over his phone.
    ————————–

    You have no idea what JJ Watt would do.

    The Texans owner isn’t even sure:

    “If it was J.J. Watt, I think he would have been cooperative, and it wouldn’t be a question. … I don’t think J.J. would destroy his cell phone.”

    That’s a real vote of confidence there.

  33. Only owners who think they have a good team steps up and takes a public stance on this issue….look out AFC South the Texans are coming….owners who have teams that suck will only talk off the record…..good sign Houston fans, yall back in the hunt…..

  34. BobMcNair, humanitarian (not) on NFL concussions:

    “It was about protecting the brand,” recalled Bob McNair, who attended the sessions. “Do we want the brand attacked on this for the next ten years? Or do we want to go ahead and take the high road? In effect, we don’t think most of these concussions referenced even occurred in the NFL, but we’re not going to complain about it.”

    Concussion safeguards are a liberal agenda according to McNair.

  35. The old man who got rich from selling his company to Enron talks about ethics. These 32 NFL owners who almost all come from extraordinary privilege do understand the vast majority of NFL fans despise them personally and for the way they run their league, right?

  36. No, Watt would just allow himself to be railroaded. He would hand over his phone like a good little boy, so as to not upset Hitler.
    If McNair meant this as an insult to Brady….he is insulting the wrong part of the country. New Englanders historically stand up for what they believe in. We are proud of Brady standing up for what is right!
    No other fan base or player has ever stood up to the lying, cheating, power-hungry NFL like we have.
    Want a Tea-Party, NFL? You got it!
    If McNair is happy with his little lap-dog, that is fine and dandy.
    Have fun finishing in last place in the worst division in the NFL, Bob!
    Jealous old moron.

  37. I am not a Pats fan. I just think this whole thing is stupid to to the nth degree. Do any of these owners who decide to speak up even realize that it was just outside the range or don’t they… Are they still stuck with the below 2 PSI even when it was not. Goodell is an idiot and looks like we have 31 more like him.

  38. Brady received bad advice from his agent Don Yee. I believe he should have cooperated more and Jeffrey Kessler probably believes the same thing. However, there is no evidence in the Wells Report relating to the AFC CG and tampering with footballs. Judge Berman already concluded that. The problem here is not just with Goodell but with the owners as well. They act like a bunch of children.

  39. daytontriangles says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:16 PM

    The problem is, Roger Goodell defines anything short of Brady confessing his guilt and agreeing with 100% of the Wells Report’s findings as “failure to cooperate”.

    ————————————————————

    Because Robert Kraft promised the commissioner that he and his investigators would receive full cooperation from all members of the Patriots organization in all matters in the course of this investigation.

    In fact, Mr. Kraft publicly said he welcomed Ted Wells appointment as the independent investigator. The cooperation subsided when the Patriots realized they didn’t like his findings.

  40. ” We don’t think most of these concussions referenced even occurred in the NFL.” — Bob McNair

    Goodell must be a great guy he has McNair, Ted Wells, Exponent, Woody Johnson, and Jerry Jones vouching for him.

  41. tigerlilac says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:27 PM
    BobMcNair, humanitarian (not) on NFL concussions:

    “It was about protecting the brand,” recalled Bob McNair, who attended the sessions. “Do we want the brand attacked on this for the next ten years? Or do we want to go ahead and take the high road? In effect, we don’t think most of these concussions referenced even occurred in the NFL, but we’re not going to complain about it.”

    Concussion safeguards are a liberal agenda according to McNair.
    =======================================
    This is an issue the NFL owners REALLY should be concerned about and the movie coming out on Xmas day will hurt them badly. It is about the Nigerian doctor (played by Will Smith) who discovers the CTE concussion problem and how common it is with NFL players. You can bet ESPN won’t be doing any promos.

  42. mmack66 says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:23 PM
    I must have missed the part where it was proven that deflated footballs gives a team a competitive edge.
    ———

    Speaking of things you missed, the fact that they weren’t nailing them because deflating balls gains an advantage, but because they tampered with the equipment illegally. Is it too much for you third graders to keep up and spend less time blindly worshiping Brady?

  43. brady supporters, i agree that goodell and wells probably botched the investigation/punishment, but you can’t totally ignore the texts between the lackeys. something was going on.

  44. The billionaires running the league are the problem Bob. Not the guys providing the product on the field, and lining your pockets. You wouldn’t know who Bill O’Brien is if it weren’t for the Patriots, no problem hiring their guys, but you question their integrity.

  45. Of course he wouldn’t have destroyed his phone, because he didn’t do anything wrong nor does he have anything to hide. Tom Brady has no such luxury, he cheated and tried to cover it up, taking down several people in his wake. No respect for this guy anymore. Defending Brady shows absolutely no common sense or simply a desire to create controversy. No question he is guilty.

  46. You’ve done it now, McNair! Cue the paid army of pro-Patriots posting drones to descend upon this thread and spew out scores of indignant tirades, thumbs-downing en masse anyone who dares not drink the Kool Aid! Then cue the fact-finders who will dig up some “cheating” the Texans were doing themselves, even if they have to make it up!

  47. PatriotInvasion:

    So, McNair thinks someone felt it was important to deflate balls by a SMALL FRACTION of a one pound per square inch. And that all assumes they started at exactly 12.5 to begin with. Angels dancing on the head of a pin indeed.

    -Keep in mind, this also would’ve had to occur in what, 90 seconds? And the officials (who aren’t part-time employees as far as a full season is concerned and thus handle a TON of footballs), couldn’t measure the Patriots and Colts footballs w/in the entirety of half-time?

    Huh?

  48. Hawdog, you are wrong. Brady did not use the Union as why he wouldn’t turn over the requested texts. He even refused to have a union rep at his meeting with Wells. He couldn’t involk union rights because he already destroyed it. His agent lied when he gave the reasons as union and setting bad precedent. The same time he said the texts would have been viewed with skepticism by the NFL

  49. it continues to amaze me that with way people are glued to their cell phones these days they still dont seem to realize how they work. If Brady was texting ANY team employee about this alleged scheme the investigation would have uncovered that because, wait for it, they had every team employees cell phone in their possession.

    Here’s how texts work: I text you a message, that message is on my phone AND on your phone. You text me a message, that message is also on BOTH our phones. So anything nefarious Wells or Goodell thought would have come from Brady’s phone would be on McNally, Jastremski, or any of the other dozens of Patriot employee phones.

    Unless he was texting Mark Walhberg or Gisele about a deflation scheme Brady’s phone was not going to provide any new information they didnt already have. Its astounding how dumb this farce has made people. But the NFL wanted the idiots to see a “Brady Destroyed Phone” headline and throw reason out the window – apparently it not only works on brain-dead fans, but billionaire owners as well.

  50. Many Pats fans should realize, the majority of owners are on the side of goodell…….. that is why this is still around. Its no different than what you do at work. You do what your boss wants you to do. Finally, there is a reason most of the owners are taking a hard line with this.

  51. And Tom Brady and his team would never show wearing high school varsity jackets for a game unlike JJ Watt and teammates in Foxboro.

  52. Do people actually believe Brady didn’t have a part in the deflation or just have a problem with the leagues handling of it? I get being biased, but people’s ability to believe what they want is amazing.

  53. .
    McNairs money comes from his association with the Enron fraud. Maybe McNair should make restitution to those who were defrauded.

    ” Judge not lest ye be judged ”
    .

  54. Wow. How refreshing to see the truth in plain common sense English. And from an NFL owner, no less.

    Pats fans could learn a lot from Bob McNair. (But alas…they can’t/won’t.)

  55. The only important point in this is what I’ve been saying for a while – I believe there are many owners tired of the gamesmanship the Patriots employ. Roger is doing what his obsses (the owners) want – saying enough is enough and it’s time to stop skirting the rules or looking for loopholes while the other 31 play fair.

    NOW – that’s not to say the Patriots cheat. And certainly most of the “gamemanship” is well within the rules (like the formation thing).

    But it’s telling that an owner essentially said they cheat. And others in the football world have said it (like Shula). It’s not just “haters”.

  56. New England Idiots still thinking their golden boy is innocent. You’re all just like bad parents. No clue of reality.

  57. people like to ignore the fact that Brady specifically printed out the rule and had these guys hand it to the refs. So we are supposed to believe that Brady was running this ball deflation scheme and thought ‘hey guys, while we’re secretly breaking this rule you know what we should do? Let’s literally hand the officials a copy of the rule we are breaking right under their noses! Since nobody has been paying attention to this rule in the history of football we should definitely bring it to their attention as we are trying to blatantly break it!’

    Thats like Sidney Crosby handing the NHL refs the rule on stick curves before a game and then going out and playing with a boomerang for a blade right in their face.

  58. @ sbaltimore says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:46 PM
    Wow. How refreshing to see the truth in plain common sense English. And from an NFL owner, no less. —————————————————————————————-
    You mean an AFC owner that has to play the Pats this year!

  59. macgrubie says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:44 PM
    Do people actually believe Brady didn’t have a part in the deflation or just have a problem with the leagues handling of it? I get being biased, but people’s ability to believe what they want is amazing.

    -“What is the direct evidence that implicates Mr. Brady?” – Judge Berman

    So you’re saying you have a clearer picture of this than a Judge who’s tried CBA cases in the past?

  60. Texans owner also believes the ending of Braveheart would’ve been better if William Wallace yelled “Mercy” and kissed that scumbag’s ring, instead of yelling out “Freedom!!!” like a badass.

    “JJ Watt would never defy the all-righteous empire, and bends the knee whenever he’s commanded.” -Bob Mcnair

  61. macgrubie says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:44 PM

    Do people actually believe Brady didn’t have a part in the deflation or just have a problem with the leagues handling of it? I get being biased, but people’s ability to believe what they want is amazing.
    ————————–

    Most rational people know that the footballs “deflated” because of the weather, and they also know that the NFL League office is run by some of the most incompetent, corrupt, and duplicitous people to ever run an organization.

    I would expect that the FBI will soon be investigating them for violations of the RICO Act.

  62. McNair didn’t say “Goodell did a good job”, he said “Brady should have cooperated more”, there is a HUGE difference.

    That’s like. a Wells saying “he probably new” and Goodell claiming it’s a “conspiracy”.

    McNair is still stinging from the last time they played the Pats when the Texans wore their “letterman” jackets to Foxboro for MNF and got their butts handed to them 42-14. Or, he’s just trying to sell tickets.

    See you Dec 13th in TX.

  63. guadalahonky says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:31 PM

    In fact, Mr. Kraft publicly said he welcomed Ted Wells appointment as the independent investigator. The cooperation subsided when the Patriots realized they didn’t like his findings.
    ————————————————————–
    The cooperation subsided when they realized that Wells was not independent, and was hired not to find the truth, but to trump up a case against them.

  64. Cheating aside…

    This whole “destroyed the phone thing” is ASSININE

    You don’t need a phone to read texts…. Those can be retrieved from any carrier and the NFL had access.

    Brady routinely destroys phones…it’s his policy.

    He may be dirty, but this destroyed the phone issue is obviously a blatant smear tactic, in hopes that Brady would lose in the court of public opinion.

  65. I have little doubt the Patriots were trying to gain an advantage, but the jealousy from these other billionaire whiner owners is embarrassing.
    Anything above a token fine and ‘don’t get caught again’ admonishment is akin to killing a mosquito with a bomb.

  66. Mcnair… love this guy. See ne fans, your epic cry fest is irrevelant. The other 31 owners back goodell. 99% of america backs goodell on this. Tom brady legacy down the toilet.

  67. BRU-HAA-HAA

    Now owners are coming out of the woodwork

    knowing that the biggest mistake in Inflation Gate was

    taking this home brewed fiasco into Federal Court ???

    How in HELL does McNair “KNOW” what J J Watts would do in a similar situation?

    Oh, maybe Goodell told him so !

    The NFL is going to lose… BIGTIME

    and all over a dumbass mis-understanding that PSI drops when temp. drops.

    Science class 101

    😉

  68. I wonder what Bill O’Brien thinks of his his team owner’s comment. Probably an internal eyeroll.

  69. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:35 PM

    mmack66 says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:23 PM
    I must have missed the part where it was proven that deflated footballs gives a team a competitive edge.
    ———

    Speaking of things you missed, the fact that they weren’t nailing them because deflating balls gains an advantage, but because they tampered with the equipment illegally. Is it too much for you third graders to keep up and spend less time blindly worshiping Brady?
    ——————

    Well, you had better let Boss Goodell know that, because he is as uniformed as us third graders. Do you really not know the reason behind the four game suspension?

    Of course you don’t. I wouldn’t expect some delusional hater to know the actual facts of the whole fiasco.

  70. Careful Bob, Brady has a lot of friends on your team……….A lot of friends.
    Btw: Classy owner.

  71. This is the same Bob that made his fortune selling his company to ENRON in 1999.

    I’m sure Bob handed over all his personal communication and files to the feds when they investigated the ENRON collapse. He made sure all his employees did. He even made sure they did with no warrants.

  72. This is the latest NFL-false story initiative. Another story noted that McNair talked to Goodell on Tuesday (didn’t say what they discussed). That’s the day after the court hearing with Mara present. Bet the word went out from Mara that they needed to start shoring up Goodell.

    Guess they burnt Mortensen so cannot use him anymore.

    NFL is despicable. Goodell is going down in flames.

  73. deflatedfootballs says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:19 PM

    Will all due respect to JJ Watt… Tom Brady is on another level.

    You got that right. When it comes to honesty and class JJ’s at the top. Brady? Doesn’t have any class or an honest bone in his body.

  74. You freakin Pat’s fans are so very stupid to consistently blame and bash Goodell.There are at least five owners that have come out to say they support Goodell’s decision.And my guess is that all of them do.He is doing what the owners want him to do,but yet you put this at his feet alone !!! No matter what the judge decides,this is not over by a long shot.If the NFL loses they will no doubt appeal and likewise Brady. ALL of the owners wanted this,no doubt in my mind.

  75. JJW=PEDs, So full of nothing but air Mr. McNair it’s a pity you will never win a SB, but maybe your buddy Bob Kraft can let you hold a LOMBRDI, just pick a year!

    TTNE/BOS, just in case, that’s TITLE TOWN!

  76. sbaltimore says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:46 PM
    Wow. How refreshing to see the truth in plain common sense English. And from an NFL owner, no less.

    Pats fans could learn a lot from Bob McNair. (But alas…they can’t/won’t.)

    ————————

    True. I guess we could learn how not to make the playoffs and how to spend our extra free time.

  77. you left out the good part:

    “Is there anything conclusive there? No, you don’t have any conclusive evidence,” McNair said. “But the whole idea is we want to make sure we have a competitive playing field that’s level for everybody”

  78. Its common practice for celebrities and star athletes to destroy their cell phones, as well as shredding personal documents before taking out the trash. There are a lot of people who would pay big money for Tom Brady’s old sim card. Every security firm would advise a person of notoriety to take certain measures to protect their privacy.
    ————————————–
    If that was the case, then why does Brady have the phone he used before and the one he used after??

  79. “What escalated the whole thing” was the false 2 psi report that was purposely leaked by the NFL league office and purposely left hanging in the media for months by the same league office. Without that inflammatory story there is no Wells investigation. There is still not a shred of proof that anyone in the Pats organization tampered with the balls or knew about ball tampering. $1000/hr lawyers in a closed room did not get a whiff of a confession out of JJ or JM. There is more evidence and motive that Indy screwed with the ball that they intercepted. Time always works things out and we’ll eventually see who’s who in this caper.

  80. Not smart to put words in a players mouth and pit him against the union. Obviously this guy benefits from Brady not playing. We’ll have to remember this one when JJ Watt is suspended for PEDs.

  81. “What escalated the whole thing is that Brady and the Patriots were going to cooperate fully, and then when it came down to it, they didn’t,”
    ————————

    Not quite, Bob.

    This thing got escalated when the false PSI levels got texted, and that was before all of the fans had even left the stadium after the AFFCG.

  82. Patriots are 5-1 lifetime against the texans, most of them blowouts. The only gm they won, was a gm the Pays didn’t need. The one where Welker blewe out his knee on the crappy turf in Houston. It does include an embarrassing playoff blowout. They were the same as the Colts are now. They can’t even touch the Pats. They’re tired of getting smoked. Even the Ravens make excuses for continually getting outcoached by BB. Our WR got stripped. Our kicker missed the FG. We weren’t prepared for the Pats legal trick formations. Suprised the Competition Commitee didn’t make Edelman’s double pass illegal. They’re all sick of losing, That’s what this is all about.

    McNair has no idea what Watt would do with his cellphone. I’ll bet his lawyer and the Union would advise him to not turn it over. It’s a fallacy anyway. Brady finally agreed to turn over any info the NFL needed. They didn’t want his phone. TheNFL didn’t want to bother. After already spending 6 months and 10 mil.

  83. .
    Patriots record under Tom Brady : 182 – 56

    Texans record under JJ Watt : 33 – 31

    Good comparison by McNair, a senile fool.

    And let’s not forget that McNair approved of fellow owner, Jim Irsay, driving under the influence through a population center going 10 mph in a 40 mph zone. In his possession were 11 different prescriptions and 29k in cash. He was a threat to every man, woman and child in the area.

    Yet, McNair favored no action be taken against Irsay.
    .

  84. Wow, all you hater fanboys really believe you have a better grasp of the issues than one of the NFL owners? LOL!

    Hurry, get back to your phone. The President is calling!

  85. McNair doesn’t know JJ. He is the type that won’t take the c rap that Goodell tries to heap on Brady.
    Why is this fool talking for JJ? Last time I look, JJ is a huge guy who is capable of talking for himself.

    Evidently this man is not following Deflategate updates otherwise he would have known that the judge himself said that Brady did much better with regulation football. There was no advantage gained if the balls were indeed underinflated. Hard to tell. Brady won either way.

    The blame on this fiasco rest solely on Goodell’s empty head. He must have been really ticked off giving the Patriots their trophy. His Jets minions did not succeed in stopping the Pats to win another SB. So now he’s maliciously trying to take out the Pats lest they continue on their winning ways. Who knows? Maybe the Texan will benefit this year and win something. Crippled Patriots, that’s fantasy football for owners like him.

  86. Expected a full blown attack on McNair and got it.
    What I didn’t see coming was wild accusations against Watt. Patriots fan reaches another low. Watt didn’t even comment about it, the parallel being both are faces of their respected franchises.
    I am not even defending Watt here, he doesn’t need it. This is about the worst people currently inhabiting the sports world.

  87. justafacts2014 says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:48 PM
    “I handed over my phone.”

    – Ray Lewis ——————————————————————————————————————————
    PS: But not the white suit! LOL

  88. McNair should start worrying about how to keep their scoreboard from exploding on December 13, when the Pats savage his team in front of their own fans.

  89. Brady didnt break his phone, The ” destroyer ” did. thats the guys name, he is hired by Tom to destroy his phones when he is done with them. and he is called the destroyer because he is trying to lose weight.

    almost seems as ridiculous, as the deflator doesnt it?

  90. Pats fans… and when the suspension is upheld they will spend the next 10 years saying it was a setup.

    For them Tom Brady and the Patriots organization is innocent no matter what becomes of this. Ask them about Spygate

  91. Context is everything. As somebody who actually heard this interview when it happened, I can attest that this writer skipped the context all together.

  92. I’ve said all along, the entire league knew the Pats were cheating and tried to get them to stop “behind the scenes”.

    And they did, at the beginning of 2014, with disastrous results so they began again.

    Even then the league was willing to sweep continued, serial cheating under the carpet until even further cheating was followed with Brady’s “learn the rule book.”

    That’s it. Billionaires are not going to have a whinny little hair plugged punk cheat and act immune.

    If not for Goodell protecting the Pats it would have been Brady and Belichick as this is systemic and endemic.

    Think about it.

  93. butwhatabouttheintegrityofthegame says:
    Sep 1, 2015 6:30 PM

    The thing that bothers me the most about deflatedphonegate are the people who attack the pats and Brady and talk negatively about them only to try to make themselves look better.
    —————————-

    Is that why they do it? I always thought it was to make themselves look delusional and stupid.

    At least that’s how it comes across to me.

  94. How many people would really want their employer to have complete access to their private phone actions? Would you let your boss look through your phone if you thought they didn’t have the right to do so?

  95. So with no evidence linking Brady to this, a NFL owner still believes Brady is guilty. Yet in the past when Brett Favre refused to hand his phone over, he got a fine, no suspension and that was ok? Just more salty team owners who cant stand their teams sucking and need to come up with an excuse why they suck.

  96. Another NFL apologist coming out from under his rock trying to shore up the crumbling NFL castle, lLord Goodell and the tarnished shield that they try to use as an umbrella to deflect the incoming rounds that they themselves have unleashed.

  97. I wish every player in the NFL had the tenacity of character that JJ Watt has, then the league would be a far better place, filled with A-1 competitors. Most guys are just picking up a paycheck — and are not even trying to win-with-urgency, much less attempting at all to be the very best that they can be — like JJ Watt.

  98. All Im saying is if Brady is guilty based on supposedly breaking his phone then Big Ben is guilty based on paying a woman out of court so she wouldn’t go after him for rape.

  99. How many people would really want their employer to have complete access to their private phone actions? Would you let your boss look through your phone if you thought they didn’t have the right to do so?
    ————————————–
    First, no one asked to look through Brady’s phone. They asked that Brady and his Attorney forward copies of pertinent texts and emails. Instead Brady destroyed his phone, but not the phones used prior to, or after the phone in question, on the day he was to be interviewed.

    Second, if I worked for a company paying me Millions of dollars a year to play a game, and I agreed to a negotiated CBA, then yes I would cooperate with my employer….

  100. Nah – JJ Watt wouldn’t destroy his phone. He’d put on his letterman jersey and get CRUSHED in Foxboro.
    Brady sitting 4 games helps the chances of a POTENTIAL playoff team like the Texans. The owner wants one thing only – what’s best for his team and his pockets, truth be damned.

  101. When you ask anyone who thinks Brady cheated for proof that he did, all they say is, “he destroyed his phone”. Thats all it takes to find someone guilty, yet Brett Favre does it and he gets fined, no suspension just fined. I think a lot of people are just jealous of the success of Brady in the Pats. And Im a Cardinals fan.

  102. I think during rookie initiation, the NFLPA routinely tells players it’s their responsibility to protect the field and that they are compelled to destroy any property the league office wants to use against any player.

  103. How many people would really want their employer to have complete access to their private phone actions? Would you let your boss look through your phone if you thought they didn’t have the right to do so?
    =============

    He could always quit.

  104. Although I am hesitant to give my Professional opinion, I can assure you that Mr. McNair’s legal team has certainly briefed him on the intricacies involved in the case, and he knows what he is talking about.

  105. If a deflated football provides a competitive advantage, then why does Aarons Rodgers prefer his above the top limit of 13.5?

    Is he trying to get the most competitive disadvantage possible?

  106. Years from now, we’ll be talking about the Patriots in the same way we do about the steroid era. More lies and cheating scandals will come out long after the main parties involved have retired. It’s no coincidence the Patriots have managed to win their division every year in an era where it should be impossible with free agency rules and everything else. Even the best run franchises have down years. Brady and Belechik will do anything for the glory

  107. McNair’s comments smell a lot like the NFL Management Council predetermined their course of action and forced the result in a very biased forum. McNair admits there is no evidence of Brady’s involvement or a deflation scheme, but does emphatically states that the NFL wanted to make an example of anything that could be remotely considered as a competitive advantage. So they get Wells, a clever lawyer to give an opinion as to what the NFL wanted and make it look like he connected the dots.

  108. Why do they need his phone when they submitted the phone records, text records, etc.?

    Especially after the NFL told Brady’s attorneys that they didn’t need the phone?

    Why are you writing this article PFT when you know this basic premise is flawed?

  109. I’m completely sure we would ALL now trust the competent, honest, and in no way agenda-driven NFL higher-ups and their in-the-pocket lackeys like Ted Wells with our personal phone contents when they have already come to a pre-conceived conclusion as to our guilt or innocence.

    They wouldn’t misconstrue or contort the “evidence” in any way, would they? Would they ever leak misinformation on purpose and not retract it?

    Nahhhhhhh……

  110. Calm down, Patriot honks. A reporter specifically asked McNair about what he though Watt would do in a similar situation. McNair didn’t blurt this out randomly.

    I swear. I hope this judge upholds the suspension because I think Brady is a cheater and because Patriot fans are delirious.

  111. jmethane says:
    Sep 1, 2015 6:54 PM

    Pats fans… and when the suspension is upheld they will spend the next 10 years saying it was a setup.

    For them Tom Brady and the Patriots organization is innocent no matter what becomes of this. Ask them about Spygate
    —————————————————-
    Tell us how Aaron Rogers skates after admitting he slips overinflated balls past the shamelessly inept game officials. As a matter of fact, tell us how the venerable Referee Walt Anderson loses track of game balls for the first time EVER the very day he’s made aware there are concerns about game balls. Oh, and for good measure explain why the Jets weren’t investigated the previous year for filming the Patriots from the same exact location. Or how the Vikings and Panthers are simply warned not to continue breaking the rule of heating game balls on the sideline. Or why the Jets kicker, Jay Feely was never investigated even though the guy who prepped his K balls was suspended for tampering with them. Or, oh, never mind. Why bother baffling with facts. Who needs facts when you’re jealous and hate the Patriots ?

  112. When you ask anyone who thinks Brady cheated for proof that he did, all they say is, “he destroyed his phone”. Thats all it takes to find someone guilty, yet Brett Favre does it and he gets fined, no suspension just fined. I think a lot of people are just jealous of the success of Brady in the Pats. And Im a Cardinals fan.
    ———————————-

    Brett Favre destroyed evidence of him sending photos of his genitals to a woman.

    Tom Brady destroyed evidence pertaining to Cheating which effects the integrity of the game.

    Can you see the difference now?

  113. For all the folks saying Brady should never have to give up his personal phone, especially since the NFL would have leaked Brady’s private messages, lets go back to the beginning. Wells originally said Brady didn’t have to give up his phone. All he had to do was turn over any messages pertinent to the investigation. Which meant Brady’s lawyers could pick and chose what to offer up. The GAVE Brady the benefit of the doubt, a get out of jail free card, and he refused. Why?

  114. NRG Stadium’s Wonky Grass says:
    Sep 1, 2015 7:32 PM

    Calm down, Patriot honks. A reporter specifically asked McNair about what he though Watt would do in a similar situation. McNair didn’t blurt this out randomly.

    I swear. I hope this judge upholds the suspension because I think Brady is a cheater and because Patriot fans are delirious.
    —————————————————
    Maybe so but McNair is delirious if he thinks any player will ever hand over his personal phone to the clowns that run the NFL, owners included.

  115. bless your lil hearts, Patriot fan. You guys are just so fed up with justice. First it was a witch hunt with Spy Gate, then OJ Hernandez duped everybody and now Tom Brady is being harassed by the league for no reason at all. Nevermind that Kraft didn’t even fight the $1M and draft picks.
    The best part is that you’re going to start the season 0-4 and every opposing fanbase is going to outdo themselves with Tom Shady signage. 2016 is going to the greatest season in NFL history, and the Patriots already tainted legacy will continue to go the way of RGIII.

    Now do your job™ Jimmy boy, and deflate my balls.

  116. all owners feel their guys can do no wrong…until their pasts creep out or their private inclinations become public. unless this dude is married to Watt, he has no idea what he would or wouldn’t do.

  117. guadalahonky says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:23 PM

    Let’s get this straight once and for all. Brady got terrible advice from Don Yee. And it burned him.

    ——–
    There won’t be any burn whatsoever when Brady skates on Friday (if not sooner). Judge Berman will vacate the suspension.

  118. guadalahonky says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:31 PM
    daytontriangles says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:16 PM

    The problem is, Roger Goodell defines anything short of Brady confessing his guilt and agreeing with 100% of the Wells Report’s findings as “failure to cooperate”.

    ————————————————————

    Because Robert Kraft promised the commissioner that he and his investigators would receive full cooperation from all members of the Patriots organization in all matters in the course of this investigation.

    In fact, Mr. Kraft publicly said he welcomed Ted Wells appointment as the independent investigator…….
    ______________________________
    I think actually the cooperation subsided when it became obvious that Wells was not an independent investigator but just another Goodell minion. And that was even before that sham wow of a report was published.

  119. These types of comments are all the cause of SpyGate and the misunderstanding of that entire debacle.

    Bill Belichick is solely responsible for the negative light the Pats are viewed in. Nothing they do, since then, will ever be viewed as “ok’.

  120. You know I think that McNair just insulted J.J.Watts. To say that a guy who busts himself every game even though he knows that the team has no chance at real success would roll over and get his belly rubbed by I Be Goodell: Narcissist, is a travesty. Put in the same position as Brady, J.J. Watts would bury Goodell before he would hand over his phone.
    McNair owes Watts an apology. Just because he signs Watts’ paycheck, that doesn’t give him the right to belittle him like that.

  121. Why did the Commissioner of the NFL refuse to turn over his personal during the Ray Rice appeal?

    Why did the Commissioner distort the truth during Bounty gate which was later exposed during appeal?

  122. sbaltimore says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:46 PM
    Wow. How refreshing to see the truth in plain common sense English. And from an NFL owner, no less.

    Pats fans could learn a lot from Bob McNair. (But alas…they can’t/won’t.)
    =======================================
    Do you use the word alas often?

    As far as McNair goes, I’d bet, that like most NFL owners, he really hasn’t even read the Wells Report which said that Brady cooperated with the investigation. The NFL worked backwards on this and there is no evidence (sorry, a destroyed cellphone is not evidence) that Brady directed anyone to maintain footballs below 12.5 psi. More importantly, nobody in the NFL gave a crap about PSI until 7 months ago. This is a league that allows quarterbacks to work with footballs within a range. What other sport allows for its balls/pucks to be anything other than one uniform standard? They never cared about this until driven by hate or jealousy of the Patriots. Seriously, this is sick stuff.

  123. Who supports the NFL in the Brady case:

    None of these owners (at least those that can read) think Brady is guilty of anything other than being a player in a dispute between the owners and the NFLPA. That, by definition, makes them guilty of anything the NFL charges them.

    ESPN has thrown up all over itself trying to regurgitate every NFL talking point.

    The haters have long since dispensed with any respect for judicial fairness. They are an angry jealous mob that seeks revenge against a player and team that is a shining example of a meritocracy.

  124. .
    @trollman

    Well bless your lil cowboy heart .

    Dallas hasn’t advanced past the wild card round in 20 years because they spit the bit every single time.

    Meanwhile, I had to Google ” wild card round ” because the Patriots don’t play in the losers bracket like the Cowboys. Wikipedia said it’s like a JV playoff game.

    Btw….. Tony Romo just threw another pick.
    .

  125. NRG Stadium’s Wonky Grass says:
    Sep 1, 2015 7:32 PM

    Calm down, Patriot honks. A reporter specifically asked McNair about what he though Watt would do in a similar situation. McNair didn’t blurt this out randomly.

    I swear. I hope this judge upholds the suspension because I think Brady is a cheater and because Patriot fans are delirious.
    —————————————————
    Maybe so but McNair is delirious if he thinks any player will ever hand over his personal phone to the clowns that run the NFL, owners included.
    ——————————————–
    NO, you Sir are the one that is delirious. NO ONE asked for Mr. Brady’s telephone. They ask him to provide a list of the emails and texts pertinent to the investigation, and Mr. Brady refused.

    Why would he do that if he was innocent?

    So now YOU kind of look like the Clown Sir…..

  126. Wow!! Brady’s arrogance and smugness have definitely rubbed off on the Pats’ fans…smh..An owner answers a question that you disagree with and you barely stop short of killing his pet!! Oh, big bad Pats are going to lay 50 on them when they play…lol…The sportsmanship is definitely lacking there! McNair only answered the way 31 of the owners would probably answer (except maybe for Mara, as he only likes to stick it to division rivals.lol) and also 90 plus percent of the nation! It is a “win at all cost” culture, as has been defined over the years. Only in your heads is it that everyone is jealous, or the Pats beat everyone else’s team. That is a mighty presumptuous view for all of you!! Just on a side note, there is only 1 God and it “ain’t” Brady..just my opinion! However this plays out, I truly feel sorry for you, as what goes around, indeed does come around!! (and Goodell is NOT going anywhere, with most of the owner’s support!!)

  127. Meanwhile, I had to Google ” wild card round ” because the Patriots don’t play in the losers bracket like the Cowboys.
    ————————-

    That is because of the Cheating, and the added advantage it provides.

  128. Who supports the NFL in the Brady case:

    None of these owners (at least those that can read) think Brady is guilty of anything other than being a player in a dispute between the owners and the NFLPA. That, by definition, makes them guilty of anything the NFL charges them
    ————————–
    Sir, please provide us a link to the verification of your accusations, otherwise your post looks quite ignorant.

  129. Mr. Wright212:

    So the Patriots went to all that effort to lower the pressure by 0.2 psi in order to “tamper with equipment” not “gain a competitive advantage.”

    Now I get your reasoning. Makes alot of sense now.

  130. “Dallas hasn’t advanced past the wild card round in 20 years because they spit the bit every single time.”

    Well if that doesn’t exonerate Brady I don’t know what does.

    I love how Patriot fans deflect all the shadiness of Deflategate and alternate radio frequencies and everything else we don’t know about by bringing up other teams’ records.

    This is just like Paterno and Bill Cosby in that no one would ever believe until others started to report the truth.

  131. As a Texans fan, McNair is an absolute moron. This is the guy who stated “We don’t need a superstar QB, we need average, adequate QBs.”

    The same guy who lets nepotism run his organization, because his GM is one of the least competent in the NFL, with one of the worst draft records, but keeps his job because he’s McNair’s grandkid’s godfather.

    You see how far that’s gotten us. 8-8 for life, yo.

  132. Guad, do you really think his agent had any control over Brady? Brady knew sooner or later that his phone would be subpoenaed. He was smart to destroy it. But his FY to Goodell and the league backfired on him.

  133. As Roger Goodell continues to face criticism over Deflategate, McNairs comments indicate that at least one of Goodell’s 32 bosses think he has done his job well.
    _________________________

    Believe me, 31 of Goodell’s bosses know Brady cheated and agree with the Commissioner.

  134. Brady was just being a good friend.
    If he would`ve turned over his phone all the stuff from his buddy Ben Alleck about his nanny would`ve become public and cost him millions in the divorce.
    Bro code people bro code!

  135. When I hear JJ Watt say what JJ Watt would do in such a situation, then I will pay some attention. McNair’s comment is frankly just name-dropping.

    Isn’t it at least possible, if not more probable than not, that Brady destroyed his phone to insure that the league could never get it because that sets the precedent and every other player that gets investigated by the league for anything has to put their personal cell phone on the table?

    It’s not about hiding anything. It’s about a person’s right to privacy.

  136. The guy had something on his cell he didn’t want the world to know. Maybe he slept with Affleck’s nanny. Who knows? Bob McNair should hand over his cell.

    My guess is Jj Watt would inform on his friends during the McCarthy hearings.

  137. Nobody will ever suspect the Texans of cheating until they beat a team other than the Cincinnati Bengals in a playoff game.

  138. Prediction time:

    When the Patriots play the Texans on Dec. 20th

    Patriots 84 Texans 0.

    Hey Bob, let me remind you Brian Hoyer is your QB and Bill O’Brien is your head coach. Lmao.

    All you have to do to Hoyer is slam him into the ground and he will start crying like a little baby.

  139. So Goodell is supported by people who obviously have rushed to judgement and haven’t read the material.

    Obviously Bob gets his info from ESPN.

  140. J.J. Watt would have left it in the pocket of that lame letterman jacket he wore to the Monday night game, when the Patriots were held to only 42 points. Loser.

  141. More importantly…Roger Staubach, Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco would have never thought to conspire with multiple team employees to cheat the game.

  142. Love the timing on this…Just in case this Judge wants to be an activist…lets get a little perspective form a neutral third party that is an expert on the game.

  143. Has JJ Watt ever played the Patriots???? I’ve never seen him show up to one!

    Memo to Kraft: this is one of your “partners”…..

  144. J.J. Watt isn’t a cheater like Brady and the Pats. Watt is a true All-Pro. Brady, Belichick, and the Pats team will take short cuts and cheat whenever the opportunity presents itself. The Pats are a tainted team, and everyone (outside the Northeast, anyway) knows it.

  145. rootpain says: Sep 1, 2015 7:57 PM

    guadalahonky says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:31 PM
    daytontriangles says:
    Sep 1, 2015 5:16 PM

    The problem is, Roger Goodell defines anything short of Brady confessing his guilt and agreeing with 100% of the Wells Report’s findings as “failure to cooperate”.

    ————————————————————

    Because Robert Kraft promised the commissioner that he and his investigators would receive full cooperation from all members of the Patriots organization in all matters in the course of this investigation.

    In fact, Mr. Kraft publicly said he welcomed Ted Wells appointment as the independent investigator…….
    ______________________________
    I think actually the cooperation subsided when it became obvious that Wells was not an independent investigator but just another Goodell minion. And that was even before that sham wow of a report was published.
    ————————————————————
    You haven’t read Ted Wells press conference, he gives the true record of the scope of his investigation. If you had read it, you’d realize how off base you are on everything you said.

    Utter nonsense.

  146. brady supporters, i agree that goodell and wells probably botched the investigation/punishment, but you can’t totally ignore the texts between the lackeys. something was going on.

    —————

    my next door neighbor has a red Ferrari. I called the cops because he must have been speeding. Same logic you’re using.

    Let’s be honest, Bob McNair despises the Patriots. Remember the 11-1 Texans rolling into Gillette stadium with their letterman jackets and false sense of bravado only to be destroyed in convincing fashion? Theyve been an abortion ever since

  147. How far reaching is the NFL’s power to suppress the truth?

    Try reading the story in today’s NYT: “Makers of Sony’s ‘Concussion’ Film Tried to Prevent Angering N.F.L., Emails Show”

    Then reconsider Bob McNair’s comment that:

    1. ” In effect, we don’t think most of these concussions referenced even occurred in the NFL, but we’re not going to complain about it.”

    2. The NFL is more credible than Brady.

  148. Seriously, I don’t McNair having his own opinion, however ill informed. But for a dope like this to cast aspersions on a great like Tom Brady is really hard to take. (And I love throwing in his complete faith in the integrity of his own roided up stars. Texas, of course, is the capital of honest, fair play and gentlemanly behavior. Just look at the Cowboys. None of McNair’s players would even go so far as to fail to turn over a cell phone!)

    In the annals of the game, Brady is on Mt Rushmore. McNair is a footnote.

  149. This Owner KNOWS the NFL is about to get its ass handed to them and is starting the whining a couple of days early….hahahahaha

    First rule of holes……When you’re in one, stop digging!

  150. Maybe Bob can get Mark Brunell to solve that QB controversy for him.

    They’re cheaters, but I’ll hire as many ex-Patriots as I can (HC, QB’s, etc.) because I really want to win.

    Hypocrite?

  151. If you took a poll, i’ll bet that the majority of the owners aren’t drinking the “Brady Kool-Aide” regarding Deflategate. However, it’s very awesome to see an owner Buck Up and say it ! Does it piss off the Pats Fan’s ?? Absolutely !!! I”m just glad this adventure is almost over, regardless of how it turns out ! At least, “one phase” of it is over and onward to the next one. My popcorn is “popped” and i’m ready to go, don’t really give a crapola who wins but the incessant Pats whining is overwhelming.

  152. Make that about 30 other owners approve…

    An organization with cheating as it’s core value.

    Spygate
    Deflation
    They even broke the rules on all the eligible receiver BS they pulled last year…

    Keep those blinders on, Boston. Samuel Adams is rolling over in his grave knowing you saps are supporting this kind of crap. Oh, wait a minute, you also supported and elected the bootlegging, cheating, drowning Kennedy’s – same difference…

    Lay the hammer down, Judge!!!!

    P.S. And I STILL want my apology from Robby Kraft!!!

  153. Isn’t the Super Bowl going you Houston soon? Why don’t you take the Adblock off your wallet and put in a decent playing field. It’s bad enough people have to go to Houston and watch a game in a stadium with a Venetian-blind roof but the least McNair should do is pay for a decent playing surface. His own players are getting injured play on that cow pasture field.

  154. Neither would I but I am not married to a super model and followed by paparazzi all the time either. Relax JJ, stay in your one and done at best in the playoffs lane.

  155. What a moron to wade in now and get this taint of this debacle on himself.

    Every owner who got involved in this mess have shown themselves to have little class and less brains. If this comes down to how a court would handle it, the NFL is going to be hammered.

    Goodell’s only hope is that the judge rules that under the CBA Goodell can make stupid, arbitrary rulings with impunity otherwise he’s screwed.

  156. Why so many accusations about JJ Watt taking PEDs in a discussion that is related to evidence or lack thereof?

  157. Lets put it into perspective, top 10 teams that have the most known cheats throughout their history:

    Denver 48
    Jets 44
    Steelers 40
    Giants 35
    49ers 35
    Raiders 32
    Redskins 31
    Ravens 30
    Miami 30
    Colts 29

    Then 9 more teams later in this list you reach the Patriots at 20. Yes Patriots are the worst cheaters in the league? Sounds more like a bunch of haters, didnt start until Patriots started winning. Coincidence? Is it also coincidence teams in the top 10 really have it out for the Pats?

  158. Have this clown turn over his cell to TMZ immediately, either that or sit down and shut up

    By the way, he claims the Patriots didn’t cooperate, how would he know other than from the known LIAR Goodell.

  159. What a clown. First of all, we probably shouldn’t put too much weight into comments from a man who deemed ENRON a reputable business to work with. Beyond that, I would just chalk up Bob’s comments to the early stages of senility as well as geographical ignorance as I’d imagine it doesn’t often get cold enough in Houston where Bob would then understand that just as your car tires lose air pressure during the winter months, the same thing happens to footballs during a cold weather game.

  160. @patsabelly? I couldn’t agree with you more EXCEPT I also think that Pats’ fans are dealing with emotion at times.
    I have a favorite NFL team, my lifelong team, the team that plays its home games 10 miles from where I live, a team that the Pats beat in a Super Bowl, and I can’t believe the hatred some fans(?) have towards the Patriots.
    I truly believe that if this #deflategate situation had been thrust upon MY TEAM that nothing would have come of it. This is hate driven by the NFL and many fans because of their distaste of the Patriots.
    It is said to never invest money by using emotions because one is not thinking clearly and never try to guess what a judge might do if you are an emotional person.
    I’ve been in court many times, not lawyer nor a criminal, but I can never guess what a judge might say. He is there void of emotion to interpret the law as he sees fit. That’s why his, or her, opinion is concrete.
    ALL FANS MUST CALM DOWN.
    THE SEASON CAN’T BEGIN SOON ENOUGH.

  161. Lots of exciting trolling (but not really) that has nothing to do with the fact that Brady cheated. Well done.

    As for the girl who says the owners are informed by reporters who are wrong…either she’s one of those reporters (which makes her wrong) or she’s a nobody, in which case her opinion is worthless. Regardless, I suspect the owners know a lot more than the rest of us, which gives you a clue when none of them are backing one of their own.

    As for all the “you’re doing it with our ex-employees” statements, I should think you Pats-homers wouldn’t want anyone remembering that McNair has access to people who know all the stunts the Pats pull.

  162. Could it be that McNair has particular inside knowledge of the situation, considering he has two former Pats QBs, the Pats’ former OC and quarterbacks coach, and one of the Pats best OLs under his employ?

    Okay, Vince may not know much about deflated balls, since he seldom gets his hands on them. And Mallet may not be bright enough to have a considered opinion. But Billy O and Hoyer might be able to shed some light….

    All their current employer would have to do is ask them for their honest take on the situation, given how close they’ve been to the situation in recent years. Most people in that position would.

  163. Might have been good to slam Brady IF he was suspended for the game your due to play him in December. Now, all you succeeded in doing is giving Brady some ammo. What I really hope, is that the Texans need that game to make the playoffs, and Brady stomps on you. Then he pulls out his cell phone and stomps on that too, for good measure.

  164. Whatever McNair….I love JJ, went to Madison at the same time he did and he was fantastic, but to be fair to Brady, JJ is married to a world famous supermodel either. If I was Brady, they would have received the middle finger if they asked for my phone. Get a court order if you wanted his phone….also, don’t hire you little lacky to do the investigation either you clown. #firegoddell

  165. Why would he give up his personal phone/camera/video recording device to his employer that was leaking tons of false information about him? Brady already stated that, like most celebrities, he gets a new phone every few months and destroys the old one. He was able to get a log of calls and texts from AT&T and they matched up with Jastremski and McNally’s phone records – which were given to the NFL.

    This is all about Brady treating Goodell with the contempt he deserves. Try to keep up Bob.

  166. apparently mr mcnair isnt aware that brady was told by ted wells that he did not need to give his phone up as part of the investigation. all wells said he needed was relevant people that received texts and brady gave him those. maybe if mr mcnair and the rest of the owners took the time to c what their commissioner was up to, theyd be in the know. weve beaten the texans like they were our kid brother so many times, no wonder this clown has an ax to grind. go get the team some more varsity jackets man. well be over here planning for thursday and how to repeat the formula weve figured out. win the east, get a bye, win 2 playoff games at home, then win the big one. have a good day.

  167. I hate controversy that never dies. Anyone that cares about deflategate has already lost interest. I choose to ignore all the cheating accusations because it is either rare in which case will be caught or rampart in which case nobody really cares to catch them. I just find it funny that the ones who lose are the ones who magically discover the cheating. I like Tom Brady and have difficulty believing that with all those people around, he could communicate back and forth on a cell phone about the pressure of footballs. What’s more is if you are smart enough to cheat that well, I doubt you would do it using a cell phone. Big Brother just wanted to fish around in his world and come up with something. I also do not think it is fair to start accusing JJ Watt of substance abuse just because Brady is getting a hard time. JJ Watt is a wonderful person and athelete. Tom Brady is as well. Football is a game. As life goes these two will be replaced by future atheletes eventually. I prefer to remember them as sports heroes.

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