Greg Hardy considering an appeal of his four-game suspension

AP

Not only did the NFL lose in court again today, they might have more court dates in their future.

According to Todd Archer of ESPNDallas.com, Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy is conferring with NFLPA officials to determine whether he’ll appeal for a reduction of his already reduced four-game suspension.

With the Tom Brady ruling a significant win for the players union, they’re going to be emboldened to push every case, and Hardy has what could be considered a good one.

While his suspension was reduced from 10 games to four by arbitrator Harold Henderson, that’s also double the standard punishment for domestic violence under the old conduct policy — which was in place when Hardy was arrested in 2014 as a member of the Panthers.

But when commissioner Roger Goodell initially announced Hardy’s 10-game ban, he said it was for the broadly defined “conduct detrimental to the league” rather than the domestic violence itself.

With the wind blowing strongly in favor of players now, it only makes sense for them to raise sails and see how far they can go.

60 responses to “Greg Hardy considering an appeal of his four-game suspension

  1. I’m sure the writers on this site will throw a party if Hardy gets a suspension reduction, just like they are with Brady. Glad to see someone is out there sticking up for abusers and cheaters.

  2. Hardy will certainly win in court – its not he did something super egregious like an equipment violation… or be an all-time great QB on a winning franchise team.

  3. unlike Brady, Hardy was the whistle blower. Hardy called 911 to report a coked up girlfriend that refused to leave his place and quickly learned the double standard men face in the criminal justice system.

  4. I am not advocating for letting convicted felons go unpunished, but if Hardy was deemed unable to play 15 games last year, doesn’t that serve as punishment enough.

    Many people will say well he got paid to not play, and ok that is fine I understand the premise. If that was the case, why can’t you just retroactively charge him four game checks since he as already served double the time he owes for a suspension.

  5. Hhmmm…

    As I said earlier,

    Some Idiots in the NFL front office supported by a few team owners took the Deflation Gate scheme into Federal Court.

    Look out for the landslide.

    😉

  6. If he gets off, what’s the point of suspending anyone for anything besides drugs? Apparently, unless you’re in jail on murder charges (Hello Hernandez!), you can do anything you want and not have any real repercussions. Every player that’s sued has won in court.

  7. Like I said when you over rule the union contract, bad things could happen the owners could shut this season down at anytime . If the decisions all end up in court.

  8. I hope he appeals and wins!!! He sat out almost all of last season, and for pete’s sake, he’s the one who called 911. What he was accused of doing did not affect the sportsmanship of the game, unlike Brady did and probably has been for years, along with that entire organization…smh..
    Go for it, Greg!!!!!

  9. Unlike Brady (which was an onfield type transgression), Hardy was an off field issue in which the conduct WAS detrimental to the league as a whole. There were a handful of Domestic Violence cases but now all of the players have to go through seminars and/or classes on the subject.

    Not only that, how much revenue did the league lose do to these actions.

    And while I am still seething about Roger being a moron with regards to Brady, his stating that the suspension was due to the conduct being detrimental instead of the Domestic Violence, it means that he was actually following the CBA that gives him the authority to hand down punishment.

    And as for the – well the standard was only 2 games, before Goodell came out with the 6 games policy, there was no set policy, it was done on a case by case basis – just as Ben R, Brandon M, and others that have done similar things as well.

    Overall, I think the league has a much better case in this instance. I also think that it would be in Hardy’s best interest to let it go. Bringing that incident back the national eye doesn’t have an upside.

  10. This clown housed a woman…. he should have been banned for life from the NFL. Take your 4 game medicine and shut your hole. Beating the ever living crap out of a woman is far worse than the offense caused by the cheating low-life of Tom Brady.

  11. to Cowboys fans saying “Hardy out 15 games is punishment enough,” he still got paid you morons. Additionally, his body is all the fresher so when he does play you guys will benefit because of that alone. It’s hard to like Cowboys fans as well.

  12. cfos00 says:
    Sep 3, 2015 12:42 PM
    If he gets off, what’s the point of suspending anyone for anything besides drugs? Apparently, unless you’re in jail on murder charges (Hello Hernandez!), you can do anything you want and not have any real repercussions. Every player that’s sued has won in court.

    ______________________________________________
    I agree completely. If I were Goodell, I would not administer any discipline on anything this year–nothing. Cheap hits, spearing, going for knees, ending peoples’ careers, let it all go. Faking injuries for extra time outs, doctoring the ball, stickum on the hands or gloves, let it all go. If anybody has any problem with that, just tell them to check with Judge Berman. Apparently he is in charge of NFL discipline.

    There will be nothing but an endless line of appeals for every act of discipline anyway, so spend a year just letting it all go. Let’s see how that works.

  13. Absolutely he should, the NFL should never try to eliminate professional football players who beat on much smaller women. The judge will obviously do the right thing and let this animal back out there collecting huge paychecks and beating women like there’s no tomorrow. I think Aaron Hernandez lawyers should appeal too so we could get him back out on the field asap. Also does anyone know Rae Curruth and Lawerence Phillips status I would like him to get back out there too.

  14. Hey maybe the convicts around the country should appeal! Who needs rules, restraint or consequences.

  15. Maybe the players won’t have much of a reason to appeal anything anymore if Fraudger Goodell just gave up his dictatorial powers. That’s really what all of this is about.

  16. yeah take it to the same jugde in brady’s case. you may end up not serving any suspension at all.
    #CheaterWillFindAWayToCheat
    #WomanBeaterWillFindAWayToBeatUpWomen

  17. It’ll never happen. If he goes to court, all the details of the assault, including the amount of money he paid to buy her off , becomes public. No way he does that.

  18. I knew it. This Tom Brady ruling is a bad thing. Not because I’m a Brady Hater or Supporter. But because of all the garbage that comes with winning that case. Like, all the other cases that will arise because of it. And, potentially, another strike and another CBA.

    Don’t get me wrong, I think the league is now at the point where a new discipline system is necessary. An independent panel chosen by both sides needs to be assembled. That would settle most of these lawsuits. But in order to get there, we’ll probably end up missing some football via a strike. There’s no way the current CBA holds up after Judge Berman’s decision and the ensuing appeal by the league.

    This is not good for fans of football. At least, not until the sort out who is responsible for dolling out player discipline.

  19. Just becuz he was charged with domestic violence doesn’t mean he actually did anything. The law is so 1 sided it’s crazy. Even if you raise your voice to your significant other that’s considered a domestic. Plus if you have never gone through anything like this than you don’t know what you’re talkn about. He sat out last season. Let the man play. Go Cowboys!!

  20. Is there any point where the nflpa tries to do the actual right thing? It seems to me if the vast majority of nfl players are not child abusers and domestic abusers why would the rest of the players be defending them. The Brady thing I get but this guy? If it’s my Union is say let him rot. Unless I’m a Cowboy which Of course are 90% criminals

  21. Is there any point where the nflpa tries to do the actual right thing? It seems to me if the vast majority of nfl players are not child abusers and domestic abusers why would the rest of the players be defending them. The Brady thing I get but this guy? If it’s my Union is say let him rot. Unless I’m a Cowboy which Of course are 90% criminals

  22. ALL players suspended should appeal right now.

    Apparently the CBA isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. There will be either a strike or a lockout.

    This would open the door for another league to form, bringing actual integrity to pro football for the first time since the merger.

    Even after the NFL wins on appeal, the league is ruined by yet another union loving activist judge. The justice system in this country is 3rd world quality, and just as fair.

  23. I hope he takes it to Federal Court and all the details come out including the payoff to the gal who didn’t show to his criminal case.

  24. He can now try since we now have a new “Brady cheat” precedent created to appeal every discipline. It likely won’t work though unless Hardy is traded to the Patriots.

  25. Tom Brady Appeal
    Definition: You are guilty and it effects the outcome and competitiveness of the game, however, if you can destroy all evidence and just plead that Tom got nothing for cheating, therefore I should get nothing.

  26. Hardy should take the “Tom Brady defense”

    Lie about knowing anything
    Payoff anybody else involved to stay silent
    Destroy all damaging evidence.
    and then take a “Tom Brady” plea. Tom didn’t know it was wrong, and was suspected of cheating more than I did, and he got nothing.

  27. hey swagger, lol uh he already did most of that (hardy I mean)…why do you think he isnt locked up! Which he should be! smh
    this guy is a walking time bomb waiting to go off.

  28. None of these people on here even know the Hardy case- read the facts for yourself…. the prosecution had NO CASE because they found major discrepancies in Miss Holder’ testimony at the bench trial where Hardy was sentenced to a “SUSPENDED SENTENCE”- LOL, a guilty man would have considered that a victory.

    Hardy sat out an entire season because Miss Holder lied…
    that was proven in court (in the District Attorneys own words) before the case was dismissed.

  29. Please all you nay sayers… just google

    Hardy charlotte observer february 9, 2015

    and if you need more evidence look up the transcripts of the bench trial

    Miss Holder committed;
    1. Harrassment
    2. Terroristic threats
    3. unwanted, forcible entry
    4. Domestic Violence
    5. Cocaine abuse
    6. perjury

    Where are the charges against Miss Holder?

  30. greymares says:
    Sep 3, 2015 12:42 PM

    Like I said when you over rule the union contract, bad things could happen the owners could shut this season down at anytime . If the decisions all end up in court.
    —————————–

    The CBA was upheld, not overruled. Goodell was overruled. Why don’t some people realize that?

    Seems like the simplest solution would be to replace Goodell.

  31. Reading most of the replies in this thread, you’d think that football fans are the worst people in the world.

  32. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Sep 3, 2015 1:37 PM

    Hardy wasn’t convicted, you morons.
    ———————————

    Yea well, when you pay your accuser to not show up to court to testify against you it’s hard to get convicted now isn’t it????

  33. I forgot to add to Miss Holders charges…
    7. Failure to appear in court
    8. Obstruction of Justice

  34. Paying off a witness to hush or not appear in court is a felony worth 20-25 years in prison.
    If there was proof of a pay-off, put him in prison for that. But there is no evidence and the DA’s office should have never made the comment without having evidence.
    If the DA’s office had evidence of a pay off and did not follow through pressing charges, then they are committing a felony themselves.

    If there was a payoff… did Miss Holder report on her taxes?
    If not, sounds like tax evasion to me.

  35. padronebradfather says:
    Sep 3, 2015 1:02 PM
    to Cowboys fans saying “Hardy out 15 games is punishment enough,” he still got paid you morons. Additionally, his body is all the fresher so when he does play you guys will benefit because of that alone. It’s hard to like Cowboys fans as well.
    ————————————————————–

    Well its impossible for those who arent Cowboy fans to be objective on anything related to the team or its players.

    15 games is nearly 4 times the suspension after appeal. Fine him 4 weeks based on his 2014 salary and deduct it from his 2015 salary. Let the guy who but the way was never convicted play the effing game.

  36. People who are talking about how Josh Gordon should appeal – pay attention or catch a clue

    He isn’t being punished by the conduct code. He is being punished by the drug code which has very specific penalties that both sides agreed to. This isn’t an instance of Goodell handing down a punishment. This is Gordon failing the drug policy for the 4th or 5th time. Yes it is “only a drink”, however when you have failed that many drug tests part of the penalty is not being allowed to drink, so he was a moron and now his team is suffering for it. There is no comparison here with the Brady or Hardy cases.

    Regarding creating an independent panel to decide punishment, that is a joke as well. We have already seen that the PAs version of punishment is that there should be none. An independent arbitrator also would really have no clue as to what conduct is detrimental OR how detrimental said conduct is.

    If we are talking about independent arbitrator for appeals that makes more sense. However, again if it is determining what is fair based on the level of the crime, the arbitrator has no frame of reference as to what is fair and not. That is like asking a person that has no concept of what murder is to judge whether the life sentence is fair or not.

    The best solution is to get rid of Goodell as the person doing the discipline and if that means firing him, then so be it.

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