Report: Some Seahawks not expecting to see Chancellor at all this year

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How far apart are the Seahawks and holdout safety Kam Chancellor? So far apart that some in Seattle aren’t expecting Chancellor to show up at any point in 2015.

Ed Werder of ESPN reports that the Seahawks are planning as if Chancellor, who has not reported to work as he demands a new contract, will simply not be a member of the team/

“I don’t think we’re going to have him at all this season,” one unnamed Seahawk told Werder.

That’s a little hard to believe: Although Chancellor has already lost a lot of money because the Seahawks fined him $30,000 a day for every day of training camp he missed, at some point Chancellor is going to want to get his weekly paychecks. During the regular season, Chancellor loses one-seventeenth of his $4.55 million salary each week he misses. That’s more than a quarter of a million dollars a week. If Chancellor keeps costing himself a quarter of a million dollars a week, he’s cutting off his nose to spite his face.

So it’s likely that at some point in 2015, Chancellor will play for the Seahawks. But it might not be any time soon. Both sides seem to be digging in.

76 responses to “Report: Some Seahawks not expecting to see Chancellor at all this year

  1. What a dumpster fire. If Chancellor were a Redskin we would pay him and he would be happy because we respect our talent. The Cardinals are winning that Cupcake division. Thank God I’m a Redskin fan because all we do is play and win football games not all this side stuff. #HTTR

  2. If Chancellor keeps costing himself a quarter of a million dollars a week, he’s cutting off his nose to spite his face.
    ===========================
    No one ever accused Kam of being smart

  3. SMH….the steriod defective SHE-HAWKS,,he is still suffering PTSD after his getting pantsed by a lil known #11 from New england…..BOOO YA

  4. Good for you Kam !!!!!!!

    I admire you taking a stand against the Cheaphawks.

    Remember, you are not only fighting for yourself but many others that will surely be following in your footsteps when dealing with the tightwad Seattle organization.

  5. This holdout makes less sense than almost any I can remember in recent history. With the time left on the contract, and the amount that he’s actually getting paid (you cannot keep leaving out the signing bonus money—that counts as money paid for this year too and adds up to a total of around $7M), I really don’t get what Kam’s doing here. The holdout seems really, really poorly advised.

  6. I am all for players getting their money while they can because a team will cut a player with years left of their contract. This is ridiculous though. Kam has completed 2 of the 4 years of the deal. Play out this year and then hold out. But who knows the teams cut players all the time mid way into a contract.

    Team wise is is a bad example to rework a deal half way in but they have created this mess by cutting players. The worst is the cutting of players while injured, the old “injury settlement” we hear about so much.

    As much as I dislike baseball and basketball for the system the have set up, big market teams spending way more than small market, the term “contract” means so much more in those sports. When players hold out we hear “you have a contract” but when they get cut its “good savings on the cap.”

    When is a “contract” not a contract? The NFL.

  7. This is just fellow players or most likely Kam’s agent spreading thus story to try and get the Seahawks to budge. Luckily the front office isn’t stupid. No way this guy misses a year of paychecks and eligibility.

  8. Cam may not realize that this job is temporary and he’s a young man. I guarantee you he will need the money that he’s throwing away in about 10yrs…….

  9. “…one unnamed Seahawk told Werder.”
    ****************************************
    If you feel that way, put your name on it and explain your belief or shut up.(if it was said at all) Besides, that unnamed source could be the long snapper, who has no relationship at all with Kam or the other defensive players.

    Remember how everyone was positive Russell Wilson would be franchised, because they were so far apart? Well, shouldn’t we learn from history to just wait? Listening to guys who are always wrong is like taking advice on Iran from the guys who gave us Iraq.

  10. Now we’ll see what the Seattle front office is made of. It’s easy to look like a genius when your QB makes $600K a year. It’s not so easy when he makes $20 million.

  11. he is already cutting off his nose to spite his face.
    30k per day for training camp is a lot of jack.
    If he wants to continue to be stupid he should keep holding out. He has years left on his deal.
    Greed Pal, it could end your 4.55 mill dollars a year career
    just like that.

  12. Showing up and playing really really well will help get that contract situation rectified Kam…it’ll also keep you from losing a lot of money that wont be recovered.

  13. Seahawks management should issue an ultimatum. Show up by Week 1 and all of the fines will be waived. Show up any later and the fines will be upheld. He’s a beast, I love him, I was even thinking about buying his jersey, but this is ridiculous.

  14. Most people struggle to make ends meet. I have absolutely no sympathy what-so-ever for this dude. Or any of them for that matter. In fact, I think teams should cut (and not hire) players who aren’t willing to honor the contract they signed.

  15. Kam has no leverage. He either waits til week 10 and loses millions and then still has two years left on his deal or he waits out all year loses more millions and still has 3 years left on his deal. Sadly, at this point he’s hoping the team does terrible to make the Seahawks front office feel forced to make a move. He should show up today save a lot of face.

  16. conflictedobserver says:
    Sep 8, 2015 9:03 AM
    he is already cutting off his nose to spite his face.
    30k per day for training camp is a lot of jack.

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    They don’t have to fine him.

    That’s the fine that they apply to people who do not show up to camp, if they feel like it. It doesn’t get applied immediately. It’s at the team’s discretion.

    And when new contracts are signed, one of the conditions to signing (every other time before this) is that all fines are thrown out. He could get no contract and simply say that he won’t show until the fines are dropped. If Seattle starts hot, he’ll be traded. If not, they’ll probably drop them.

    I doubt he ever pays a dime (unless he misses game checks… because those go to players who play in the games)

    I’m interested to see where this goes.

  17. I feel bad for young men like Kam. He is getting horrible advice from some bonehead agent, and Kam doesn’t have the street smarts to know that when you make your money in football, you take it whenever you can.

    His agent can work until he is 70. Kam can only work until he is, maybe 35. He needs to get some sense knocked into him.

  18. He’s spiting nothing if Seattle starts 1-3 because the defense is s rudderless ship without him and he turns $2M in fines into $10M in new money. Pay the man

  19. Ask any player who has an ACL tear right now if they would trade places with Kam. They would all say that KC is delirious for sitting out when he is healthy.

  20. So let’s say he plays at some point. And he starts playing after 2 million of his contract is eaten up leaving him with 2.5 million dollars left. Here is my question. Is his agent paid on the full 4.5 million contract or the remaining balance. This could also be more reason to get in the field.

    If he gets a new contract none of that matters.

  21. logicalvoicepft says:Sep 8, 2015 8:51 AM

    What a dumpster fire. If Chancellor were a Redskin we would pay him and he would be happy because we respect our talent. The Cardinals are winning that Cupcake division. Thank God I’m a Redskin fan because all we do is play and win football games not all this side stuff. #HTTR

    Play and win? 4-12 is a joke
    Kiss the ring

  22. heelergirl says:
    Sep 8, 2015 9:05 AM
    Give Seahawk fans another excuse for losing games

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yeah, those terrible Seahawks are ONLY 42-14 over the last 3 years (counting playoff games, 36-12 regular season)

  23. It’s just additional proof, if any was needed, that you NEVER re-do just one contract if you’re an NFL team. They made concessions to Lynch, and now everybody else wants to take their turn. In a sense it’s understandable, but Chancellor has a contract and he needs to live up to it.

  24. Unless Chancellor completely caves, he’s not playing again in Seattle for the foreseeable future, if ever. Seattle holds his contract, and I for one hope they don’t trade his rights. Chancellor can retire and find some other means of making more than $7 million/year. And in the meantime the Seahawks will be drafting and coaching another mid-round prospect into a Pro Bowl headhunter at strong safety. #notbiggerthantheteam #byebyebambam

  25. I usually am against any player holdouts but since it is happening to such a classy organization, with the most humble players I have ever seen, good for him.

    Stay Classy Seattle!

  26. I know I’m getting old but times are just getting weird! It used to be that if you were dissatisfied with the contract you JUST signed that you fired your manager. Now it seems that you disregard your teamates, fans and reputation and
    keep the guy who “negotiated” your contract. Go figure!!!

  27. Kam needs to call his buddy Bryce and share stories about how to piss-off your fan base. The people who pay your check.

  28. I think we can all agree that the front office only looked good because of their discount qb. Also, don’t forget that Bennett is unhappy and is still a potential holdout threat.

  29. Even without Kam, Seattle is a beast of a playoff contender. Seahawks have all the leverage. They’ll win with or without him. He’s my favorite player and I still love and respect the guy, but there are plenty of stars on this team.

  30. Does anyone know if the Seahawks can prevent him from prevent him from having this year count if he shows up week 10? This is highly unlikely to happen, but was curious if a team can place a player on an exemption list or bench them or something to prevent said player from gaining that year of sevice.

  31. platnumtoof says:
    Sep 8, 2015 10:01 AM

    Does anyone know if the Seahawks can prevent him from prevent him from having this year count if he shows up week 10? This is highly unlikely to happen, but was curious if a team can place a player on an exemption list or bench them or something to prevent said player from gaining that year of sevice.

    I’m not sure. Maybe they could place him on the suspended list but that would pretty much ensure he’d never play for them again. I do think it’s a joke that a player can sit out ten games then come back and get credit for the year. I don’t feel sorry for Kam whining about his contract. Most of us on here could live on one year of his salary for our entire lives.

  32. I find it fascinating that reporters who do not know an athlete’s personal financial situation feel so comfortable speculating what a player will or will not do when paychecks are missed.

    This Smith guy is GUESSING what Chancellor will do. He has not talked to Chancellor or his agent. He has not talked to the team. He does not KNOW a damn thing.

    For all we know, Chancellor may be trying to get himself released. He may be living of his paychecks from three years ago, because he is cheap. (Remembering the various Browns players living in $300,000 houses near me, and driving $45,000 BMWs, just like the lawyers and accountants in my neighborhood.)

    Before fanboy writes as if they know Chancellor will come crawling back, remember . . . the same thing was said about Barry Sanders. And we know how that turned out, don’t we?

  33. Nice to sit back and watch this unfold.
    Seattle fans thought it was crazy when Vernon Davis missed a few practices for SF.

    At least he didn’t skip any games like Kam will be. You failed to recognize his value on your defense, now you will spot it in the first game! What’s the excuse if St. Louis beats you???

  34. sugarray1 says: Sep 8, 2015 9:53 AM

    Kam needs to call his buddy Bryce and share stories about how to piss-off your fan base. The people who pay your check.

    * * * * *

    Nope. Wrong. He should ignore what Joe Fanboy thinks and do what is best for him, his family, and his career. Screw Joe Fanboy and what he thinks. Because Joe Famboy will not be feeding his family when his career is done. Joe Fanboy is going to say “Well, you should have handled your money better.”

    Finally, Joe Fanboy works under the laughably erroneous premise that HE “pays [the player’s] check”. Bs. Paul Allen pays Kam Chancellor, not you, Joe Fanboy. Just because you buy a fake “authentic team jersey” does not mean you are in on the salary decision making.

    So don’t get your relative importance twisted. You are a consumer, not a producer. Chancellor is a producer, and he deserves what the market will bear for his skills. And if he is willing to bite the bullet and lose money now to get more money later, who cares if Fanboy likes it or not? They are not important. This is business.

  35. So don’t get your relative importance twisted. You are a consumer, not a producer. Chancellor is a producer, and he deserves what the market will bear for his skills. And if he is willing to bite the bullet and lose money now to get more money later, who cares if Fanboy likes it or not? They are not important. This is business.
    —————-
    So much delusion in this. He signed a contract. He knows up front how contracts work in the NFL. If he wants to have the ability to make more money if the going rate for his services goes up or his skills improve and make him more valuable, then all he has to do is bet on himself and sign shorter contracts.

    But instead, he wanted the financial freedom of the guaranteed money and bigger signing bonus that comes along with signing a longer term contract. He and/or his agent are the one’s to blame, not the team for refusing to re-negotiate a deal with 3 years left on it. Especially when he’s still one of the highest paid at his position at $7M/year average.

  36. unitas19 says: Sep 8, 2015 10:30 AM

    Players need to honor their contracts.

    * * * * *

    They play for a league that not only violates the CBA routinely on discipline (costing players games, checks, endorsement opportunities, and time) but which negotiated an underhanded TV deal that put money in their pockets at the expense of the players they later locked out, which arrangement a federal court later found was ALSO a violation of the CBA.

    Yet I don’t recall Joe Fanboy getting exercised about THOSE breaches of contract.

    No, a player should NOT honor a one sided contract signed with entities that routinely breach their contracts, and who can terminate their contract for the dumbest of reasons, with no recourse for the player, and which entities routinely sue players to get money back. He should, instead, use whatever leverage he has to get the most money for him and his family while he can. They don’t have loyalty to him, so misguided loyalty to the team and their one sided contracts would be STUPID.

  37. The whole idea of Seattle’s “12th” man theme is that the fans are part of the team. So, if the fans are part of the team, then they should stand behind Chancellor and his holdout. The fans should be putting pressure on management to give Chancellor what he wants. And if he holds our for the entire season, the fans should support that.

  38. They play for a league that not only violates the CBA routinely on discipline (costing players games, checks, endorsement opportunities, and time) but which negotiated an underhanded TV deal that put money in their pockets at the expense of the players they later locked out, which arrangement a federal court later found was ALSO a violation of the CBA.
    ————–

    This is totally false. The CBA is not routinely violated. The players agreed to it (foolishly) because they wanted a bigger portion of the revenue pie.

    Don’t confuse the CBA with labor laws.

  39. “seattlesue427 says:
    Seahawks management should issue an ultimatum. Show up by Week 1 and all of the fines will be waived. Show up any later and the fines will be upheld. He’s a beast, I love him, I was even thinking about buying his jersey, but this is ridiculous.”
    =========================================

    I understand your point, but the truth is, if you do that, any player not wanting to go through the pain of training camp could simply not show up…… the Seahawks NEED to fine him. Maybe a 50% fine reduction, (they offered a 70% fine reduction a week or two ago) but if Seattle chooses to totally waive his fine, they’re creating a future problem for themselves.

  40. He’ll show up by week 10 to have a accrued year, Seahawks open up a can of worms when they re-did Marshawn Lynch contracts when he was planning on holding out. Hell at this point anyway with all of the offseason condition and training camp that Kam miss if he was to show up a soft tissue issues or worst is bond to occury just ask Revis that effect of trying to play while missing all of camp while holding out.

  41. platnumtoof says: Sep 8, 2015 10:01 AM

    Does anyone know if the Seahawks can prevent him from prevent him from having this year count if he shows up week 10?

    * * * * *

    This is Fanboy’s punitive side coming out. Though contracting parties have disputes all the time, when Fanboy sees an athlete testing the market, holding out for the best deal, and using leverage to improve his position, Fanboy sees him in a VERY different light than, say, Donald Trump. Fanboy, for some reason, identifies with the owners (the same ones who continuously violate the CBA they have with the players), and not with the players who, by definition, have less bargaining power. It is almost like a Stockholm Syndrome situation . . . or Uncle Tom, I guess.

    The answer is “No.” The CBA identifies what is a year’s service, not the punitive impulses of jealous Joe Fanboy.

    So here, the owners have a “solution” to this problem — Cut Kam Chancellor. Put his azzz back out on the open market. That way, they don’t have to worry about contract years, or anything else.

    But, no . . . Fanboy doesn’t even want that. Fanboy wants a player to be tied to ateam, with minimal bargaining rights, not unlike a sharecropper who is prohibited from leaving the land, or selling his cotton to the top bidder, or seeking out a better career. Screw that, Fanboy. That’s not how business is done in 2015.

  42. chiadam says:
    Sep 8, 2015 9:02 AM
    Now we’ll see what the Seattle front office is made of. It’s easy to look like a genius when your QB makes $600K a year. It’s not so easy when he makes $20 million.

    ————————————————-

    Let’s see:
    Russell Wilson – under countract until 2020
    Bobby Wagner – 2020
    KJ Wright – 2019
    Cliff Avril – 2019
    Earl Thomas – 2019
    Richard Sherman – 2019
    Marshawn Lynch – 2018
    Kam Chancelor – 2018
    Michael Bennett – 2018
    Jimmy Graham – 2018

    I just listed almost every Pro-Bowl caliber player on the Hawks roster, can you please tell me again how stupid the management of the Hawks are for having all these guys locked up to multi-year deals?

  43. “I think Kam has decided that when one hit can end your career and perhaps shorten your life, you don’t play for less than you’re worth”

    —————————————-

    Here is the COMPLETE list of Strong Safeties making more money than Kam’s $7 million per year average (based on average yearly salary over the life of the contract)

    Rashad Jones $7,003,000 per year
    Kam Chancellor $7,000,000 per year

    He’s getting paid what he’s worth.

  44. So the title says “some” players… But when you read the article it says “one” player… Make up your minds.

    And the report is bogus anyway because there’s no way that Kam will hold out past week 10. If he does, then he’s even dumber than he already looks in all of this.

  45. Kam needs to remember that this is the same team that gave Matt Flynn $10 million guaranteed and then benched him for a 3rd round rookie before week 1. Plus, if he doesn’t report at all the contract could toll, and he’d still be 3 years from free agency.

  46. Those of you trying to disparage the Hawks as an organization by calling them cheap and classless, can you please explain? Just curious since player after player says that when they talk to their buddies in the league, they all want to play for Seattle. Go ahead, we’ll wait. Back up your bold talk. How are they classless? How are they cheap?

  47. The owner of the Seahawks is worth, what, about $30 billion? And they already have a SB win two years ago. Seriously, what on earth does Kam have as leverage? I make it a personal policy to not mess with billionaires.

  48. Just curious since player after player says that when they talk to their buddies in the league, they all want to play for Seattle.
    ———-
    And you know this how? What’s amusing is that you think a player cares where they play. They all play for the money. And when the money runs out, they don’t stick around for the ambience.

  49. heelergirl says:
    Sep 8, 2015 9:05 AM
    Give Seahawk fans another excuse for losing games
    ———
    You know you’re a true TROLL and not up on NFL stats when you accuse the team with the NFL’s best record over the past 3 years, Seattle, of looking for excuses for losing games.

    Your team must be very sorry Troll.

  50. We should be alright.

    I Youtube’d ‘best of Dion Bailey,’ his replacement, since I never heard of the guy. Ironically it’s a game against U-Dub and ironically against USC…

    I think we’ll be alright. Schneider and Carroll don’t choose mediocrity even for backups.

  51. Just send him to the lions. He will be a great help replenishing the defense after losing Suh. Come to the D Kam!!!

  52. People are not smart on here. Kam has zero leverage here. He can be a petulant child all he wants at this point. Seattle as a team will be fine if he doesn’t play. Sure, their defense is weakened quite a bit, but the improvements on offense should offset this. Seattle is still a very young team, and is very good at plugging players in that perform at a high level. Especially on defense.

    Also, for those saying Seattle should cave… Why? They don’t have the cap space as it is after signing most of their talent. Kam signed his deal in 2013. He said it was good for him at the time. So after getting all that guaranteed money and his signing bonus he wants to reneg on it all right away? Screw that! Lynch only had one year left on his deal. Not three. Renegotiating that contract fits Seattle’s MO. Chancellor has absolutely no ground to stand on. Seattle can hold him for three years if they want and his career would be over. Kam took garbage advice from his agent. His only hope is to go back to the team and hope Seattle is gracious enough to waive the fines.

    Also, the fact that the second highest paid Strong Saftey and the eigth highest paid saftey in general isn’t being paid what he is worth is laughable at best. Sorry Kam. You are awesome at what you do and is still one of my favorite Seahawks, but you are in the wrong here. Go back to work and go back to your team that you left hanging to be selfish. Go win another championship and show how good you are. Acting like this only makes you look bad.

  53. People are not smart on here. Kam has zero leverage here.

    Seattle can hold him for three years if they want and his career would be over.
    ———————
    You are right, he has no leverage but if Seattle get off to a slow start, all of that turns. Especially with the Rams coming up in week 1 with their D Line and the OL woes, that could be ugly.

    As for Seattle pulling an Al Davis, Marcus Allen, type stunt, I really do not see that happening but if it does, it would ruin the team. Free Agents would not trust them, players within the locker room would revolt and they would definitely have to start overpaying to get the same results. Remember Kam might just be the most liked guy on the team.

    From what we hear about Kam in the media, his holdout is not only removing one of the better safeties from the defense but also the leader in the locker room, the leader on the field, the confidant to most of the players…this cannot be replaced no matter what player comes in and decides to lace them up in his absence. All of this and his support of the run game, his intimidation over the middle…good luck if you think a backup safety on the bench can replace all of that.

    The one thing you got right, people are not smart in here.

  54. Via Bleacher Report concerning kam- Said a teammate: “We will win without him, and it will hit him.”

  55. Get Back Bam Bam!

    Man, Kam? Even your coach was visible shaken today(wednesday) as he didn’t really think you would take a Quarter Million dollar hit to miss the Ram Game.
    You need to drop the stubborn and stop losing money.

    An old Beatles tune: Get Back

    Get Back!GetBack!Get Back to where you once belonged….no more shooting yourself in the foot.

    You really need to. Even Lynch Used his threats constructively to get his way. This is akin to blowing off a finger for 4th of July….so needless.

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