Brandon Marshall: White players treated differently when it comes to NFL discipline

AP

Jets wide receiver Brandon Marshall also has a full-time TV gig in part because the show’s producers are never quite sure what he’s going to say.

In that regard, Marshall’s comments Tuesday night on Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” were right on script.

The topic of conversation was Deflategate and the battle between Tom Brady and the NFL, and Marshall said that “a lot of players” believe there’s a double standard based on skin color when it comes to the way the league hands out discipline.

“White players, specifically at the quarterback position, are treated differently,” Marshall said.

Later, host Adam Schein asked Marshall if players believe black players are held to a different standard.

“Absolutely,” Marshall said. “At times, at times, at times, yes.”

During a give-and-take with fellow panelist Boomer Esiason, Marshall said, “I think that the important role that I play on this show is to give the viewers [an] inside look of the locker room. I am a player right now. This is not just from our locker room; this is from the locker rooms across the states. This is how guys are feeling. This is not just my opinion. These are conversations I’m having with guys.

“It’s just not African-American players. I’ve had this conversation with Caucasian players as well. The most important part of this whole discussion is the process for the players. They just want the process to be fair and right. They just want to get it right.”

322 responses to “Brandon Marshall: White players treated differently when it comes to NFL discipline

  1. Ummm . . . . . perhaps Mr “Jay Cutler is great!” is confused.

    For ex, if you look at all the suspensions that Goodell has handed out over the years and how they have been slashed on appeal, such notable black players as Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, and the Saints’ defensive players Vilma & Will Smith benefited greatly from reductions.

    And NONE of those were for equipment infractions, but issues involving the health and well being of other players, their wives and their children.

  2. All I’ll say is this, if ben roethlisberger were black the rooneys with their “steeler way” would have catapulted him ages ago

  3. This is why nobody takes us serious in instances where there is actual racism. Stupid. Just stupid especially when the league is a majority black.

    All coming from a fellow African American

  4. If this was directed towards the judicial system that evaporated the punishment Goodell tried so hard to force on a, wait for it — white quarterback — it may make sense. Or the US judicial system in general.

    But at this time, this was completely inaccurate and unnecessary. If theres one thing Goodell has proven over the last few months its that he has done everything he can to suspend Tom Brady, whether justly or unjustly.

  5. Ben Rothlisberger, Richie Incognito, and Derek Wolfe on line 2. More so, a lot of people would say that 9 months of character assassination was worse than almost any punishment Brady could’ve gotten.

  6. White people can not get away with saying “black rioters get less punishment/no punishment for the crimes they commited”
    Im not white, but i am sick and tired of everything in america having to be a gender/race issue.

  7. Good grief this guy isn’t satisfied about anything. As long as he is on Inside The NFL I will not waste my time watching it.

  8. Really? It’s about race?
    If it’s a Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks or Packers player it’s about the shield.
    If it were a Brown, Ram, Viking or Redskin etc. it is fashionable to skewer the player(s).
    The league is all about it’s marquise franchises.
    Tell me I’m wrong……

  9. Is Marshall saying that despite a judge deciding Bradys investigation and appeal was not fair or right, he thinks Bradys punishment should stick? Because that would be the opposite of fair or right.

    Does he want to discuss the topic rationally or come off like the bipolar arrogant racist he is?

  10. He can’t tell us what happens in “locker rooms across the states”, while he has been in quite a few (losing) locker rooms, one players point of view, or one locker rooms point of view, does not equate a whole system of locker rooms, just as one racist white man’s views (Donald Trump) does not represent the views of all white men…

  11. Brandon you have a tenacious grip on the obvious! It’s simple economics: if 90 percent of the people who spend money on my billion dollar sport are white, it is utterly imperative that I keep as many white players as “clean” as possible. As a black man I’m not saying that it’s right, just makes sense.

  12. Oh shut up. Whites are the minority in the NFL and also commit far less infractions based on percentages of incidents. Maybe this white QB got off this time, but that was because he wasn’t afforded the due process or correct punishment required by the CBA. So sorry if playing the race card all your life has blinded you, but it doesn’t fit here. Roger, while a moron is no Hulk Hogan or Chip Kelly (according to Stephen A. Smith).

  13. Look, Goodell tried to throw the book at Brady, and a judge over turned it. Yes, I do believe racism exists in this country and it’s a real issue. I just don’t believe it applies here

  14. “Blame whitey” is a racist mentality.

    MLK himself preached “all lives matter.” ALL.

    How many african americans have realized their prime time dreams of being rich and famous via the NFL?

    The NFL might he stupid, but racist? Has this guy looked at any NFL team photos in the last 25 years? Please.

  15. Wow Brandon, you are a paragon of talk show wisdom.

    Let’s take a recent case of Commish on white crime: Boy, they sure let that Brady guy off super easy, why for the crime of just waking up in the morning, Brady was suspended for a quarter of a season.

    You’re so right Brandon, he should have been suspended for life.

    Brandon, let’s put the pads on, and please, don’t go across the middle or you will lose whatever marbles you have left.

  16. Who am I to question Brandon, I’m not in an NFL locker room. Nonetheless, it’s sad that it is 2015 and race is still an issue and both races are to blame.

    “Be the change that you wish to see in the world” Gandhi

  17. Brady seems to have been held to a ridiculously high standard. I guess Goodell didn’t realize he was white, which makes as much sense as all the other explanations of the League’s efforts to smear him.

  18. So Judge Berman overruled Goodell’s lack of fair arbitration because Brady is white? If you don’t have anything intelligent to say, say nothing at all.

  19. Pretty cool. It ain’t important whether or not what the players say is true, what’s important is that what they say is unnerving to the owners.

    Publicize this, debate it, get input from more players, and watch the owners squirm. Maybe they’ll realize that all the problems of the modern NFL are coming from one place.

  20. I’m going to go ahead and say this is a case of an idiot saying idiot things. Tom Brady was suspended for 4 games by the NFL because they thought it was suspicious but didn’t actually have proof.

    In what way is suspending a hall of fame quarterback with no physical evidence giving him preferential treatment?

  21. From the outside looking in, as well as being white…

    There seems to be a pretty fair treatment in the discipline process. Look at Richie InCognito. Slammed hard.

    However,

    I would be on board with quality black QB’s being looked at and treated differently as far as recognition goes. I’m sure Donovan McNabb would agree.

    The statement about McNabb is a joke. The recognition part is probably lyrics a little true though. Even some of the best black QB’s are due some bigger credit. Players like Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham were not just really good QB’s they were amazing athletes. A 91 yard punt… crazy stuff that will probably never again be done

  22. Are you kidding me. I think the blacks keep racism on the front burner a lot more than whites do. He’s talking like Donald Trump, just throw it out there and see if it sticks.

  23. So says da Reverunt Al! But oh yes dere is a DEFINITE difference. For example, had WHITE players protested the death of a WHITE criminal shot in self defense by a BLACK cop they would have been facing fines and possibly suspensions.

  24. Another mislead American using race as a excuse and a crutch. If people in America would quit pulling the race card id say over 75% of all race problems would be gone. Its people like you Brandon who cause the problem not solve it. I am a die hard NFL fan, an American, and an hourly middle class worker, and to have to read this B.S. from a privileged man as yourself is hard to swallow. P.S. you are on my fantasy bench you need to worry about playing good enough football to become a starter.

  25. Just like the jail population drivel, waiting for the stat that shows the number of black players punished v. the number of white players.

    It’s even worse in the NBA!

    But there’s one sport where white players have it FAR worse than black players do when it comes to the number of punishments levied against them…the NHL!

  26. Well, that may be true, but I feel compelled to point out that a white player was suspended for four games because of some footballs that may or may not have been intentionally deflated by a small amount.

  27. It would be interesting to see the actual numbers broken down and the exact offenses and or accusations along with punishments handed out for black v white players.

  28. Gee, Brandon. Maybe this is because a majority of NFL players are black, which leads to black players committing most of the transgressions requiring discipline.

  29. There are about 150 cornerbacks in the NFL. Every single one of them is Black. Blacks comprise approximately 13% of the US population. If you look at the highest paid athletes in the world, pro soccer players, some are Black, some are White, some are Asian. But is the US; in Football and basketball, virtually all the players are Black. Ironically, most of the White players in the NBA are from Europe.

    Why is it that no one will address these startling disparities but Black players are real quick to play the race card everywhere else? Not one single White man in the US can play cornerback? Really?

  30. A lack of comprehension seems to be the problem for Marshal. In regards to deflate gate foe instance. A pound of air pressure missing from a football is not reckless or dangerous.

    A person driving a motor vehicle drunk could potentially kill an entire family. Men beating up their women are just as hard to want to root for. Endless nightclub escapades of Assaults, guns, robbery, rape etc etc the list goes on and on. So I genuinely ask when do you ever see a white player accused of these acts? How many whites are involved in nightclub incidents?

    How can you compare an equal standard of punishment, when the violations are so different from each other? Lastly the only white QB that was accused of rape that I can recall was Ben Roethlesburger who was suspended for 4 games without any credible evidence. So what is Marshal saying really?

    It always just sounds to me like Black players just don’t want to take any responsibility for their own actions and play the race card like America is supposed to right away sympathize with them and put the real issue in the background. It’s a simple tactic of diversion that for myself just makes me less sympathetic to them not more. In other words Brandon Marshal, your not helping your own people with the sentiment. It’s not fair white people get away with more. How about the message: Act more responsibly?

  31. Ben Roethlisberger and Tom Brady were suspended a combined 8 games with zero evidence. Try again, Brandon. Typical Jet…

  32. brah, there’s a difference between deflating a ball a bit and ko-ing your wife. if you can’t discern between the two maybe you aren’t fit to comment on race relations. also, richie incognito.

  33. Tell that to the Saints players and coaches when Goodell fabricated “evidence” against them he couldn’t prove to a judge. 4 were white and 2 were black if I recall. If the media were to ignore all these racists claims, it would go away.

  34. In the last 20 years, only 4 quarterbacks total were found to be in violation of either the conduct or substance abuse policy. Jeff George got an entire season suspension. Mike Vick got an entire season suspension. Big Ben got 4 games for rape accusations and Terrell Pryor got 5 games for taking money at Ohio State. Which white quarterbacks are being treated differently? Let’s see, what other quarterbacks were even close to being punished for something…hmmmm. Just say it Brandon. You’re upset that a federal judge freed Tom Brady, and you’re unable to distinguish the difference between the league overturning a suspension, and the federal court system dispensing justice based on U.S law. In your ignorant mind, “Tom Brady cheated and isn’t getting punished”, and somehow this is because he is white. Brilliant logic.

  35. *sigh*
    Held to a higher standard, maybe.
    Let’s look at what the White guys have done in the NFL (major news worthy stuff):
    Said the “N Word” (Riley Cooper)
    Maybe deflated footballs (Brady)
    Normal weed/Steroid/ DUI stuff.

    Black men in the NFL:
    Normal weed/Steroid/DUI stuff
    Gun possession charges
    Gun shot wounds
    Firework wounds (doesn’t count lol)
    Domestic Violence/beating women up.
    Child Abuse

    Hispanics:
    Murder.

    What have we learned? White people don’t get reported on enough or they don’t commit same crimes and we learned that Hispanics kill people in the NFL. Bradford should watch out…

    This isn’t being racist these are the things that have happened

  36. Another black racist making racist statements, in a sport that lacks any semblance of diversity. No women players. Any Asian players? How many Latinos? Of course, this black racist ignores the NFL’s lack of diversity because most players are black Americans (who represent 12-13% of the American population).

  37. I’m sure black players feel that way but I struggle to see what they draw their conclusions from. There have been two prominent white QBs penalized by the league in recent years – Big Ben and Tom Brady.

    Big Ben was suspended six games, subsequently reduced to four games, without being charged with any crime. Tom Brady’s four game suspension was only vacated by a judge. Both of those penalties seem reasonably harsh to me.

    Ray Lewis was fined, but never suspended for admitting to obstruction of justice in a murder case. Ray Rice originally was suspended just two games for slugging his fiancĂ©. Michael Vick was originally suspended indefinitely but ultimately missed only two weeks of playing time outside of what he missed during his incarceration. And understand this much – Vick’s “suspension” was harsher than usual because he admitted to gambling, and not so much for his role in dog fighting and killing dogs. Let’s not forget that Vick was a head case prior to this with multiple issues on his plate already. AP was suspended for a year for abusing his son.

    Aside from the odd treatment of AP where the NFL seemed to dream up its response and Ray Rice’s second suspension, which wasn’t allowed by terms of the CBA, I don’t see how prominent black players are treated differently than prominent white players.

    However, could I see it happening? Yes. And maybe that’s the point.

  38. Last I looked Marshall, and Brady belong to the same union (NFLPA). Strong union members are suppose to support each other.

  39. Does he have any examples?

    Incognito was almost run out of the league permanently. Is Marshall claiming it would have been permanent if Incognito was not white?

    The league tried to suspend Brady 4 games for allegedly obstructing an investigation and/or being involved in a conspiracy to deflate footballs – no player of any ethnic origin had ever been suspended for those offenses.

    Those are two examples of how white players were cut no slack. When were they cut slack?

  40. Can it be denied that phenomenal athletes in grade school right through high school are also treated differently regardless of the color of their skin but more specifically the athletic talent and promise they represent to any college team interested in building a great team to compete in the college ranks?

    Those who are not treated as potential stars who cannot help a great college football program win might feel the same Marshall does about skin color only they would be mistaken because it’s about talent not skin color. Is it fair? Not really but it’s understandable.

    Would it be fair to say that black NFL football players are treated differently in the NFL based on the fact there are more black players in the league and also that they play more meaningful time in each game because of their skin color or because of their exceptional talent to the teams they play for?

    Of course you have to ask yourself this question: Did Tom Brady arguably the face of the NFL at this time, get treated differently in a positive way or negative way, specifically did the punishment fit the unproven crime so to speak, by way of the Wells Report or was his treatment underhanded and duplicitous on the part of the NFL’s Commissioner, and far more egregious for similar crimes by black players? When it comes to how people feel about the way they are treated it’s all a matter of how subjective or objective you are evaluating how others’ treat you. Should any player black, white, or other color be treated the way Tom Brady was treated during the Deflatgate Scandal and up until yesterday again while he is preparing for a big game? If Tom is being subjective he believes they are trying to screw him without a doubt. He may be right!

    You know some reading these lines will remind us all about Ray Lewis and wonder did he get special treatment?

  41. This is laughable. Can they not see a difference between a deflating footballs, which was a BOGUS CHARGE, and Marijuana, PED or abuse cases? I wanna say “unreal”, but this is todays race-baiting America. Look at all the stuff Aldon Smith got away with…… dude was DUIing all over the place like that old video game Crazy Taxi and brandishing firearms ala Scarface. The REAL disparity in the league isn’t RACE related, but TALENT related. The better you are the more you’ll get away with.

  42. It would be nice if, for purposes of discussion, Marshall would pinpoint some specific examples.

    Punishments/penalties are handed out based on behaviors.

    Whether it’s trouble with the league’s rules or criminal violations, THAT is what causes disciplinary action to be taken.

    Marshall is suggesting that race is the reason while he ignores other very important facts surrounding the disciplinary actions.

    All this quick draw of the race card will soon be overplayed and REAL racial inequities will be drowned out by all this bee-ess.

  43. He might have a point…I don’t think goodell has ever tried to suspend a black player one game (let alone four) for an equipment violation. He really seems to have it out for TB…maybe because he’s white? Or maybe it’s just because he kicks so much butt?

    Either way it’s a great time to be a Pats fan!

  44. Goodell was aware of this perception and was one reason why he handed out an insanely harsh penalty with no evidence to Brady. Goodell puts his finger in the wind when making ruling instead of trying to do whats right. I wouldn’t say it’s a race issue as much as its a Goodell issue.

  45. Did he say whether black players are treated easier or harder in regards to punishment?

    Heck, they suspended Ben and Brady a total of 10 games for 0 criminal charges and “general awareness” of a scheme that apparently warranted unprecedented punishment.

  46. .
    Optics matter….. . More often than not, the view people see is a rich, old white man (Goodell) doing a beatdown on a younger African American player, who account for 70% of all NFL players

    Some have previously suggested that Goodell’s persecution of white icon, Tom Brady, not only served to pacify the vengeful Bisciotti wing of the NFL owners, but also boosted his approval ratings among African Americans.
    .

  47. 1.) Please stop giving us the “player’s view”. It makes you guys look/sound “dumber” than we already think. 2.) A federal judge made this decision, not the NFL.

  48. Typical reverse racism BS by a player either trying to stir up crap or an ignoramus. Brady was suspended four games for the knowledge of a simple slight deflation of a few footballs. Other players get busted with caches of weapons, beat their spouses unconscious, etc and get similar fates. Ben Roethlisberger is white, he was suspended for crimes that he didn’t commit.

    You know what is really racist? When a black individual does something stupid and when they get busted for it they scream RACISM.

  49. Hey Brandon step into the real world where the color of your skin doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters in the good ol’ USA is rich and poor. If you weren’t in the rich category you’d have realized how badly the poor have been getting their clocks cleaned for last 50 years.

  50. Well, we all know Big Ben should have had received a harsher punishment. But to say Brady deserved as much of a punishment as women abusing players is ridiculous.

    I don’t know if Roger is sitting up in his office with a different tiered punishment for various ethnic groups in the NFL. What the problem seems to be is Roger is trying to stiffen penalties and enforce good behavior more now than he ever has. He would have suspended Brady for the year if he could have. The NFL just muffed the investigation and Brady called their bluff.

  51. Brandon – how about some examples to support your argument.

    Tom Brady – balls are underinflated – 4 games (overturned)
    Ray Rice – beats up girlfriend – 1 year suspension
    Adrian Peterson – beating his kid – 1 year suspension

    Are we talking apples and oranges? What other QBs do you have examples of? You’re comparing off the field misconduct versus on the field rules violations. Goodell did try and suspend the league’s arguably most famous player who just won a SB and whose team has the league opener. Your NFLPA helped to overturn the suspension.

  52. And white players are treated differently from black players during the draft process and recruiting process in high school. Honestly the systematic discrimination of white players is a bigger issue than morons who have duis, beat their wives, do frogs or get involved in other criminal activity.

  53. I’m sorry but this is actually pathetic! ………………………..
    I’m a Spanish male and the race card being played here is just getting so old.
    Comparing what Tom Brady may or maynot have done (having a football deflated) in comparison to a Black Male punching out his wife and knocking her out, then dragging her body, or a black male beating his son and leaving actual marks of the beating, or assaulting a bartender or possible murder because you were drunk driving? …Seriously you want to compare Deflating a Football to all of this????
    And Mr. Marshall, perhaps you may have forgotten that Brady was suspended for 4 games by the NFL brain trust, it took a real Judge to overturn what the stooge Roger Goodell and his defunct, disemboweled, delegates of distorted minions placed upon Brady and his team……..
    Perhaps you could get a Federal Judge to remove the shackles around your ankles Mr. Marshall, since it is obvious to you that this is still the 1800’s.

  54. Most of us realize that the process has to be fair to every player irrespective of their race or national origin. However pulling the race card has become pervasive and is not always appropriate. We will never come together as a nation with this kind of rhetoric.

    There is public opinion that rookie NBA players who are white; Do not get paid as much as the Afro American players. This kind of nonsense is very harmful also and maintains a racial divide. Sports should and can be a conduit for better race relations but not with the kind of rhetoric that Brandon Marshall is broadcasting.

  55. Quite the firebomb statement, but i’d be interested to see if the data matches up and it proves true. I.e. a like for like crime to see if they got the same punishment. So a dope violation vs A dope violation, a domestic violence, PEDs, violent plays/hits etc.

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if it were true but i’d rather go on stats than feelings.

  56. Thank you Brandon! The clock was running out on my prediction that this would come out within 48 hours after the “white” team won in court. It’s just not acceptable to have that many good white players on one team.

  57. No, Brandon, QUARTERBACKS are treated differently than other players.

    …So, yeah, I guess you have a point after all.

  58. What is the evidence for this? Ray Rice got 2 games for punching his wife out, Tom Brady got 4 games for generally being aware that somebody may have let air out of balls. Sean Payton got 1 year just for being a head coach of players that were injuring players while the players got 4 games. Gregg Williams got indefinitely suspended while his players only got 4 games. All of the suspensions for PED’s are the same because they are automatically scheduled depending on which offense a player is on. Seriously, where is the evidence that white players are held to a different standard? Is it just because more black players get into trouble? Do they feel like white players get away without punishment? Roger Goodell’s punishments certainly don’t reflect a bias.

  59. God forbid if you’re a gay black defensive player drafted by the Rams.
    You’d be treated completely fair by the media versus a straight black prospect.

  60. I cant remember the last white guy before tom brady to even be in trouble…. oh wait. Incognito and he got suspended indefinitely for bullying. Nice try brandon.

  61. So, wait… Is he saying white QBs get the book thrown at them for cheating and not black QBs? Is that it?

    Michael Vick’s the only black QB I can think of who was punished by the NFL recently, and he was caught and served jail time for doing something pretty horrific. The NFL also reinstated him down the line. So that doesn’t really say much for them being harsh on black players.

    There aren’t that many players being punished for things right now. Yeah, they tend to be mostly black… but isn’t the majority of NFL players black? So you’d expect that if they all acted equally.

    If a white player had a report of him throwing a woman onto a bed full of guns, or a video of him punching a woman so hard he knocked her unconscious and then dragged her body through a hotel, he’d be punished just as much. It’s unfortunate that such player have been black.

    The only reason Brady isn’t serving a four-game suspension is because of a judge, not the NFL.

    It’s sad that people like Marshall try to bring race into this. I guess he needs something to look relevant.

  62. Who keeps putting a microphone in this guys face?

    No, seriously. Do everyone a favor and stop. I actually used to like Brandon Marshall, but now that he’s on an irrelevant team and is greatly in decline himself, running around spouting nonsense is his way to keep the camera pointed at his face.

  63. Brady (deflating footballs) got the same suspension as Greg Hardy (assaulting his girlfriend). Not sure I see the double standard.

    Brady’s suspension was vacated because Brady took it to court. The NFL did him no favours.

  64. And this is why the new regime in Chicago gave him away for a ham sandwich. He’s entitled to think that if he wants but putting it out there in the national media is something else. As his skills continue to erode you will see him saying more and more stuff like this as he desperately tries to stay relevant.

    Even as a fan of a Bears team who may start Week 1 minus its top two WRs and likely won’t win more than 6 games this year, I’m glad he’s someone else’s problem now.

  65. No they are not, they just don’t seem to find the trouble that others do, but thanks for trying. Why does everyone need to try and make everything about race? Stereotypes, are stereotypes for a reason.

  66. Maybe the NFL should form a joint committee with the NFL PA for the purpose of players discipline. After all the CBA with the players getting a minimum percent of gross revenue makes them a partner with a vested interest. The best interest of the game would be served by collaboration not controversy.

  67. Let’s see…
    Killing dogs vs possibly knowing something about deflated balls

    Beating up your girlfriend/wife vs possibly knowing something about deflated balls

    Being drunk and killing a passenger in your car vs possibly knowing something about deflated balls

    YEP…definitely punished differently. Brandon is correct

  68. I hate when people play the race card, but in this case he is right. However, Brady was punished by the league and it wasnt the fault of the NFL that it was reduced.

    If anything those black players should hire Brady’s legal team because they had more of an influence on the outcome than Brady’s skin color.

  69. If Tom Brady was black the result would have been the same. The league did impose a harsh 4 game suspension for a non criminal matter. The PA took it to court and a judge wiped it out. How is that whites being treated differently then blacks? There is a standard policy in place for PED’s that doesn’t discriminate. Bad behaivor, talk to Richie Incognito. Fact is blacks in the NFL are involved in criminal matters at far greater percentages then whites. The problem is Marshall has joined the talking clown club where you can say anything and never back it up with facts. Just like a locker room.

  70. As a Jet fan I am embarrassed to hear such a stupid comment from Marshall. Not shocked because Marshall is known for being a moron.

  71. If that was the case then Suh would have been banned from football forever. Instead they keep shaking their finger at him telling him to stop assaulting people on the field with silly fines.

  72. Roethlisberger got pretty strict discipline. They tried to give Brady strict discipline too. The courts threw it out, not the NFL.

  73. You have to look at the circumstances each time. You have murders, assaults, drugs, rapes, manslaughter, and child abuse, than you have letting a little air out of a ball. How should this be handled. Are these equally punishable??

  74. I’m a black man and though I don’t have the “inside view” that Marshall is coming from; from the outside looking in I have not sensed an unequal measure of justice.

    First of all, considering that blacks make up the majority of the league with at least 67%, it’s only rational that they reflect the greater number of offenses.

    Secondly and for example, Goodell could’ve slammed Ray Rice from the very beginning for what Rice did to his wife in that elevator but (only) chose to fine and suspend Rice two games. It was only after public pressure that Rice was suspended indefinitely.

    When making inflammatory statements as Marshall has done about the league having a ‘double standard’ for whites over blacks you should always support such statements with specific examples. If not, you subject yourself as one who’s too quick to “play the race card” and no one ever need to play that card unless it’s completely justified.

  75. Really, Brandon Marshall? You had to go there?

    I would think more black players get suspended because almost all the players are black. Kind of goes with the law of averages. And quarterbacks make the game. Kind of like Marshall’s career being made by a quarterback. The idea that Brady should have been suspended over those footballs is ridiculous anyway. I am sick of hearing about all the soap opera stuff. Is that garbage being flung around to get more women to watch? Have to make it more dramatic?

  76. White players? No. Patriots players? Yes. Especially their golden boy. They are willing to cheat on every level and now they have the green light to continue to do it.

  77. Well yeah, Ray Rice got 2 games for knocking out his wife and dragging her through a hotel and Tom Brady got 4 games for possibly being generally aware of someone else hypothetically committing an equipment violation.

    I’d say there’s a double standard, too, Brandon.

  78. There certainly wasn’t a double standard with Brady. He got the book thrown at him. Read the NFL’s and Berman’s findings. Goodell and his merry band of clowns equated Brady’s 4 game equipment violation penalty to steroid/PED use. You can also toss in two high draft choices and a million bucks the team forfeited. After reading Marshall’s comments, I’m sure if that exact penalty happened to him or anyone other player of color fro an equipment violation the racism card would be thrown out there minute one and it would be bigger news than Brady. Brandon should think before he speaks. Oh, wait…I forgot, he doesn’t of that.

  79. Yep, that 6 game suspension of Ben and 4 game suspension of Brady were definitely light….or wait, what am I missing?

  80. He is correct, glad somebody addressed it finally. I mean 4 games for 1 lb. of air, and only 2 games for smashing your wifes face in?

    Thanks Brandon, it needed mentioning!

  81. I guess this explains why the NFL went so easy on Brady. Oh wait, no they didn’t.

    Seems to have as much merit as LeSean McCoy’s claim that Chip Kelly is a racist for replacing McCoy with DeMarco Murray.

  82. Stop breaking the rules. Stop breaking the law.

    Much less “process” to worry about if you’re good on those two things.

  83. I agree wholeheartedly with Marshall on the fact that white players are treated different than blacks. If a white player committed an offense he is definitely held to a higher standard. If a player committed the offense of a Vick he would be black balled. If what happened to Tebow happened to a black QB watch out. If a white QB was as bad as RGIII there would not even be talks of a second chance. If a white player acted like Geno Smith he would be out of the league. If you even thought of benching Kurt Warner and he was black oh just forget about it. Al Sharpton would be all over the NFL. If a white man was caught on camera picking a fight with a little white girl and then knocking her out after she threw beer in his face because she was sick of his insults he would not even think of seeing the league again. Especially when it would have been his x offense like Pac Man Jones. Oh and well lets not forget that Bradys original 4 game suspension. No doubt if he was black it would not have even been an issue.

  84. I wonder how this conversation would go if it took place between a certain star offensive player (white) who got handed a pretty heavy punishment for altering equipment; and a largely-unknown defensive player (African American) who assaulted and seriously injured a teammate, for whom no discussion of punishment has been heard. Any disparity there? If the white guy ‘s transgression cost him (originally) a ton of time and money, won’t it be interesting to see what the AA guy’s punishment will be?

  85. I am sick and disgusted with the world taking something as serious as “Racism” and applying it to every little insignificant use. Marshall just used it, the criminal high school football players used it. In the NFL where the Black players far out number the white players, it’s almost impossible to use race in a general conversation. I’m not naive enough to think it doesn’t apply on some decisions. But as long as the best athletes are playing ( and a coach would be stupid to not play the best) I will refuse to entertain those thoughts. Don’t want to be disciplined, do things right.

  86. Tom Brady – 4 games for allegedly deflating balls with no proof that the balls were even deflated

    Ray Rice – 2 games for knocking his wife out on camera

    Im not sure exactly what white players he is referring to. Im trying not to view this in a racial tone, but he is making it that way.

    Things seem fair to me as they are. But I honestly dont recall any white domestic abuse cases recently, or any unfair white vs black comparisons. I just want to know what they are basing this on.

  87. “Absolutely,” Marshall said. “At times, at times, at times, yes.”
    ===================================

    So at times the league is racist. At other times it’s not? The race card is the last card in the deck.

  88. Without any examples to demonstrate your point this is merely a provocative statement. Nothing to see here!

  89. What amazes me most is that athletes feel they have to open their mouths and say something, anything, whatever thought pops into their brain in order to draw attention to themselves-why is that?????

  90. Just because you have a platform to speak, doesn’t mean everything has to become a race issue. All day everyday, no matter where you turn, there is something being claimed as racial that clearly isnt. Its getting so ridiculous….

  91. Yeah because it is the white players that are constantly getting in trouble and arrested. Look at the police blotter. One white player in the last 6 months and 9 black players. It is a cultural issue and until said people want to fix said culture the will continue to commit crimes and get arrested.

  92. Well, white players are definitely the minority in the NFL and liberals have been telling us for years that minorities should get preferential treatment while not being held accountable for their actions. Sounds like everything is fine.

  93. Brandon Marshall doesn’t tell us how the system is unfair.
    He must understand that the majority of players in the NFL are african american and it would necessarily follow that most of the punishments are also african american players.
    Is he saying HIS Union doesn’t fight hard enough for Black Players? I hope he’s not saying that as it preposterous. Is he saying Brady was treated differently because he got off? Talk to the Union Brandon, they make the decisions as to what penalties are appealed and which may have success in appealing. I’m certain that if an African American’s rights were trampled on, such as the Brady case, the same treatment would have been made for the African American player.
    Most of the penalties handed out during the course of a season are for offenses that are easy to deal with, e.g. steroids, criminal convictions, etc. were there is a clear violation of League rules.
    Brandon, please don’t use the “race card” without supporting your opinion with something remotely suggesting evidence as without it you sound like an IDIOT!

  94. The key words in the entire exchange: “This is how guys are feeling. This is not just my opinion. These are conversations I’m having with guys.”

    Brandon…is this an INFORMED opinion? If so, please share some foundation for your views.

    Example: Let’s talk about punishment for off the field behavior. USA TODAY reported in 2013 that since 2000, there were 687 arrests of NFL players. Eighty-eight percent were black, despite making up 66% of the NFL. So, Brandon, if you are talking about the RATE or FREQUENCY of punishment, the numbers support a higher rate for black players. Sure, stats can be deceptive and be manipulated, but you get the point: give us at least SOME information to back up your statement.

    I’m guessing you were actually referring to the SEVERITY of punishment for the same behavior. If so, now it’s your turn: Please give meaningful examples. Adam Schein already pointed out some examples to undercut your point: Bills lineman Richie Incognito and Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. Patriot fans have another: Tom Brady.

  95. Damn it Brandon! Why’d you have to go there? This is one of those things that whether you believe it or not, you don’t say it publicly. Yes, the best QBs get special protection from the NFL because they influence the game more than any other position. It has absolutely nothing to do with color.

  96. Every village has an idiot. What he fails to mention is:
    How many white NFL players have been suspended for assault on women?
    How many white NFL players have been suspended for disciplining their 4 year old with a switch?
    How many white NFL players have been suspended for DUI, as well as killing a teammate while driving drunk?

    It’s not a double standard, it’s who creates these problems.

  97. He’s a good player even tho he never played in GB. Stereotypes are more accurate than people admit. Check out demographics for race in prison.

  98. You could say there is a difference in discipline between crimes/offenses but stating that white qb’s who cheat and are given slap on the wrist punishments are comparable to another player having aggravated assault charges or sexual assault charges is way off base. The standards these players hold themselves by is the difference. White or Black if you punch, rape, fight, caught with drugs or in anyway get arrested you are getting tiered NFL punishment. Once you start looking at skin color to come up with ways to excuse or quantify bad behavior…you have already lost the credibility to speak on the subject. Millionaires acting stupid… thinking that having to be responsible for their own actions is based off of anything other than what they themselves did is laughable….try doing the same stuff not having NFLPA lawyers or money to defend yourself. That’s whats real…not being a “celebrity” acting a fool then blaming whitey again.

  99. “White players, specifically at the quarterback position, are treated differently,” Marshall said.

    So, Brady getting a 4 game suspension for no evidence of wrongdoing is “treated differently” than Ray Rice getting a 2 game suspension for knocking his girlfriend out on video???? Yeah. Let’s play the race card even though there is absolutely no basis for it. I am tired of the whining of these guys.

  100. “White players, specifically at the quarterback position”- Oh ok, so what he practically means to say is that Qbs are treated differently. It just so happens a large majority of them are white. Stop trying to turn this into a race issue for your own tabloid purposes. It’s pathetic. If the NFL was treating Black Qbs any different, then that would explain why their weren’t any repercussions for Cam Newton or Teddy Bridgewater, as their teams were caught live on television tampering with footballs.

    When’s the last time we saw Brandon Marshall in the headlines for anything other than his unprecedented, continued jargon that he consistently rants? Get a job with ESPN you bozo, Stephen A is waiting and NY is perfect for a baby like this clown.

  101. So, Mr. Marshall just ignores all the facts about Brady’s case and immediately defaults to the race card. This is the Jesse Jackson world we live in now. I’m so tired of this. All of the football players are “treated” equally. For his racist statement, he needs to be sent to the same counselor as Riley Cooper for some race-sensitivity training. Also, I’m extremely offended by the term “Caucasian”. I’m an European-American. Get it right!

  102. Show me a white player that has had better treatment than a black player??? Was it Richie Cognito? No. Was it Big Ben??? Lets see, 6 games down to 4? Hum??? Let’s compare him to Hardy. Ben was never arrested. Hardy was convicted. Ben got 6 games reduced to 4, Hardy got 10 reduced to 4. I’m going to say Ben got a worse deal. Who else do we have???

  103. Checks calendar, sees it’s not April 1st.
    Re-reads Brandon Marshall’s comments.
    Checks Tom Brady & Richie Incognito ethnicity,
    wonders why Brandon Marshall has not yet been fired.

  104. When you introduce the US Govt into the NFL Locker Room did you expect anything else than pay-to-play and racism? Black players saw the evidence, but Judge Walt Berman was paid to tuck it.

  105. Is he saying that the league took it easy on Brady in Deflategate because he is white? Cuz it kinda seems to me like they tried to hammer him pretty good.

  106. He’s saying this because the league went so easy on Tom Brady the white qb? What a terrible time to play the race card, Brady was just hammered harder than anyone in history.

  107. So happy the Bears traded him. He will be the cancer in the Jets locker room now. It didn’t take long.

  108. The only true way you could make an assumption like that would be to compare apples to apples. The discipline handed out for the same infractions or rule breaking would need to show a pattern of some players getting harsher penalties than others over the same things. Whether that’s steroids, assaults, drugs, guns, DUI’s, whatever the case.

    Is Marshall saying that white players caught doing any of the above have been disciplined less than black players? If so does anyone have any examples?

    The Brady issue at hand whether you’re for him or against him is a one of a kind infraction. At least to my knowledge. Don’t know how you can look at his case and compare it to a guy on camera knocking the crap out of his wife. And the league suspended him four games. It was the court as of right now that overturned that.

    But Marshall should provide more info. to back up a statement like that.

  109. Ah, race card. It’s you again… Dealt in a situation that doesn’t even involve the dealer, Brandon. So overused now that it’s nearly lost it’s impact. That’s not good for when it actually should be used and isn’t as effective as it should be because it’s in everyone’s face all the time and attached to silly things like NFL punishment.

    Roger Goodell (white) just tried to destroy Brady (white), Kraft (white) and Bill B. (white) over a ball or two that may or may not have been 1% lower than it should and probably wasn’t. Gave them harsher punishment than he initially gave Rice who was punching his wife in the mouth like she was the enemy.

    Must be tiring to equate everything you know and see to race, first and foremost.

  110. Let’s review the PFT Police blotter over the last 5 years and see what the ratio is. I’ll say 9:1 blacks arrested to whites.

    Maybe that has something to do with it?

  111. He should do his homework before making a preposterous statement like that. Let’s use just two examples to disprove his stupid azz allegation: Greg Hardy was found guilty of domestic violence, only to have the woman refuse to testify-AFTER he paid her a settlement of cash, which was 100% confirmed. Now we have Brady, no one knows to this day, not me, not you, not Marshall, not the commissioner, if he honestly had anything whatsoever to do with the alleged deflation of balls. That said, since when does a altering of a football’s pressure demand the exact same punishment as an act of agrivated assault on an innocent human being? To coin a phrase for Marshall from the great Cris Carter & Michael Irvin: COME ON MAN!!!!!

  112. In a league that’s heavily AA, the stats will always appear shifted in regards to the AA players. Big Ben sticks out and he got 6 games . Who else is there?

  113. Why does it all come down to race? In this situation that is clearly a joke.

    Goodell came after Brady and the team with no proof of anything and served them up historically harsh punishments. Oh, and by the way, it wasn’t the NFL that came off those punishments. It was a Federal Judge that they NFL thought was going to uphold them.

    The Rice, Hardy, and Peterson issues are “violent” crimes where each of those men have proof against them that they did something. With Brady it wasn’t whether he did something but whether he was aware that someone “might” be doing something.

    If Goodell would have gone after a black player with the evidence he had on Brady, we would’ve seen riots along Sharpton and Jackson marching on DC calling for a senate oversite committee.

    If you are going to use the race card, at least have the decency to use it where it is at least plausible.

  114. I am sick and tired of hearing this stupid argument. Brady went to court over deflated footballs for a 4 game suspension. The same punishment that wife/girlfriend beaters are getting. It took a judge to overturn the punishment. Last I checked wife/girlfreind beating is a jailable offense.

    Keep screaming this garbage. It has become the boy who cried wolf.

    Another idiot football player opening his mouth.

    “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

    Abraham Lincoln

  115. Oh please. Maybe you get disciplined because you are nuts! Mental illness is nothing to poke fun at but I’m tired of listening to this guy criticize other people’s actions or character. At least he’s not beating women on a regular basis anymore.

  116. Like in real life society….when you’re %80 of the problem causing crew….it appears that way. Thanks for bringing this into every facet of life Brandon.

  117. Oh, one other thing Brandon…calling someone the ‘N’ word or having footballs slightly deflated are NOT EVEN CONSEQUENTIAL compared to knocking out a woman or physically abusing a 4-year old. Just wanted to ‘ground’ you a bit!

  118. Welcome to the real world Brandon…..why should the NFL be any different than society when it comes to fairness in the court system…..

  119. I’ve been posting this since deflategate started. The reason the NFL has gone after Brady so hard is because all the recent discipline Goodell has handed was against high profile African-American players. He needed to come down hard on a star white player. Who better than Tom Brady. Super Bowl MVP living the good life. The owners are trying to protect their collective rear ends. This sham has been obvious from the beginning. That’s why they had to appeal the judges decision to show that they even go after the golden Boy.

  120. it will likely get lost in the conversation, but it’s pretty interesting that there’s a shared perception among black AND white players. since i’m not a player i can’t possibly say that this isn’t true.

    i absolutely believe certain quarterbacks, who happen to be white, do get special treatment from the league on the field. i’ve seen it for years in the afc east with brady. he goes ballistic on referees if he thinks he’s hit too hard or too late. any other positional players get flagged in an instant for that behavior.

  121. Is there any reasonable person, of any race, who’s not completely sick of this type of race whining?

    There are real races issues that could use thought and attention. Quit wasting our time with these fake ones.

  122. Is this where we say, “oh he’s just a stupid player, what does he know?” As if, from our couches, we know better. I fully expect Marshall to get slammed for exercising his right to speak with first-hand knowledge.

    Remember, he’s saying what he’s hearing others speak about privately. Face it, the players will not say things that will jeopardize their jobs, unless they’re in a position like Marshall’s.

    Scream race card, all you want. He stated his opinion, based on what he sees. The stats probably support him.

  123. Says the guy who has been outright traded 3 times.

    Yeah sure Brandon, I’m sure you are getting all the locker room scoop and guys just LOVE divulging this info to such a trusted source.

  124. What white QB got away with something from the NFL? Brady was suspended for something he didn’t do. Big Ben was suspended for something he was never convicted of (whether he did it or not…different story). So….what’s Marshall going on about?

  125. Oh yea Brandon? See Ben Roethlisberger for how a white player is treated.

    Never actually charged w/ anything.. 6 GAME SUSPENSION reduced to 4..

    Richie Incognito? Riley Cooper?

    I think there’s been plenty of punishment, just less white players in the league and less of them getting in trouble..

  126. Quarterback point of view. Cam “scam” Newton was suspended a day for accepting money or his father did to go to Auburn. Manziel sat out half a game for the same thing.
    Both iconic college figures, so where is the difference due to racism?

  127. Here we go…data man, if you’re making this claim just put out data…Brady was smeared, if that was deserved, I’ll never know but if they were trying to protect him because of his race this entire saga would’ve never happened…Rice and others were involved in violent situations and Goodell went super light on him initially and he’s black…but if this claim is true state facts not heresy

  128. The topic of conversation was Deflategate and the battle between Tom Brady and the NFL, and Marshall said that “a lot of players” believe there’s a double standard based on skin color when it comes to the way the league hands out discipline.
    ____________________________________

    Did he miss the part where the league suspended Brady for 4 games?

  129. This guy needs to just shut up, he’s not that good anymore, and he’s proven to be a problem on every team he’s been on. Take your meds, don’t beat women, and just shut up.

  130. Very confusing article. It starts by saying that he believes black players are treated differently, but then goes on to say he talks to white players too and they have the same feeling. The bottom line on this seems to be that everyone thinks someone else is getting treated better than they are. That’s something not limited to the NFL. It would help if some specific cases could be cited with facts of the cases being the same and the results being different. This might not be hard to do, as one of the points raised recently in the Brady case was the inconsistency of discipline under Goodell.

  131. “I’m gonna say stuff to keep my grill on your screen.”-Brandon Marshall
    Recent graduate of the Ryan Clark and Skip Bayless school of media training.

  132. Giving a podium to someone as obviously disturbed as Brandon Marshall should be reserved for MSNBC.

  133. @kenbell

    riley cooper was never suspended and incognitio was suspended by the dolphins not by the nfl.

    also, marshall is saying that there’s a perception among black AND white players. attacking the messenger for saying how players feel behind closed doors is silly.

  134. @itsfootballbaby
    Peterson missed 1 game shy of an entire season after pleading to a misdemeanor and the league attempted to punish him under the new discipline policy, and after he appealed, Henderson drug out the process of ruling to keep him off the field, and even after a real judge ruled they had to reinstate him they appealed just to ensure he wouldn’t get back on the field. How is that getting off easy for a misdemeanor? The policy stated no more than 4 games for a first offense, 2 for a misdemeanor.

  135. God Brandon Marshall is turning into Ocho Cinco…just saying stuff for shock value…the league turned Deflategate into the most overblown story in sports history and suspend him for four games…NFL did not remove the suspension… a JUDGE did…God he’s an idiot

  136. I’m sure black america is thinking the same thing because it does seem as such. In football & in life. The key statement in all of that was, “at times, at times, at…” He’s not saying all situations but some.

  137. Hes right, i been said had this been vick or a black qb, he wouldnt of got off, maybe lucky to even appeal it… charged with rape twice miss a few games, kill dogs sit out a year, shoot yourself in the leg with your own gun done for the year.. ect ect… he is right in what he is saying, at the same time Caucasian players are not getting in trouble at the same rate african american players do.. at the same time the league is 60 70 percent black in terms if players on a team.. so if your black you will know what hes talking about , if your not you probaly wont cause you cant relate. Its like me telling a fat person its easy to lose weight..

  138. Let’s look at the recent penalties that have been overturned: Peterson, Rice, Hardy…

    Let’s look at one that a judge had to over turn: Brady

    No racial dots to connect Brandon…move on

  139. @jetsarestacked
    Cooper was asked to leave the team by the team, over a word, for a short while and incognito was suspended by the team… In both cases, the teams gave out punishment so the league didn’t need to.

  140. The ruling was decided by the COURTS, not the NFL.. Goodell & NFL actually went after Brady!

    And how did this guy get a A FOOTBALL LIFE show on him already???

  141. These might be some of the dumbest comments I’ve seen. The NFL just got through over-punishing an infraction on a white QB that probably never happened, lost in court, and are currently appealing the decision. Did Marshall miss this? Or, is he too pseudo-intellectual to understand what just happened?

  142. Whether Marshall’s perception carries water is not the point. The fact is I bet many players believe that favoritism is the standard for this NFL leadership.

    It’s been obvious to me at least.

  143. He realizes that Goodell’s punishment of Brady was unprecedented, right? In fact, the NFL’s punishment of a white quarterback was so harsh that a federal judge had to overturn it. I guess that makes the federal judge racist too.

  144. Stop with the victim mentality. It can’t be the poor behavior, therefore it must be racial persecution. Marshall sees the pattern just like everyone else. Black players exhibit more behavior that requires discipline. Rather than accept that fact and try to stop the behavior, he turns it around to something like black players are unfairly disciplined. Even when shown that black players are arrested more than white players, racial victims will automatically process that data as white players just aren’t arrested for the same behavior. It is a foolish stance but it helps to alleviate some of the blame. Anyone who tries to reasonably point this out is branded a racist and discounted. From what I have seen, players that exhibit the same kind of poor behavior typically get the same kind of punishment. Does anybody really think if Tony Romo or Ryan Tannehill or Tom Brady beat their wife, they wouldn’t get suspended? Brandon Marshall was suspended 3 games for a DUI and a DV incident and it was reduced to 1 game. He had another DV incident in Miami that resulted in him getting stabbed in the hand where he was not suspended. Maybe Brandon was a closet white guy back then but his assertions are unfounded.

  145. I watched the show. Brandon is working hard at his second career but what he said was confused. He’s right that black athletes believe their is a double standard but the punishments handed down to Brady, Roethlisberger and Incognito were certainly not light and each and every one of those cases had facts put in evidence by the NFL that were questionable at best.

    The most absurd statement was when Marshall said the judge that found in Brady’s favor would not have found in Cam Newton’s favor in the same circumstances.

    he was more perceptive and balanced when he spoke of Chip Kelly.

  146. The much more interesting Showtime show on the NFL last night was a “60 Minutes Sports” segment on deflategate. Armen Keteyian interviewed a lawyer not involved in the case that deconstructed it with a scathing rebuke of the NFL and an exoneration of Brady. Probably the best thing I have seen on deflategate. For some reason, this is not getting the attention the ESPN and SI stories have gotten.

    I would also recommend reading mike reiss’ analysis of the SI piece.

  147. i think its pretty sad when Brandon Marshall expresses how he feels and says other black players feel the same too.. and immediately people want to hush or dismiss how he and others feel by crying about “he used the race card” when we should be concerned they feel this way but not surprised as we all have social media and realize there is a serious issue with inequality in regards to race and other things but yet people want to criticize him for telling us how he feels and others feel vs actually being concerned there are players who feel this way … smh …. i could see people who watch FOX news doing this but as a society this should be a concern not something to bash him over whether you believe it to be true or not its how him and others feel and deserves dialogue and investigation into why they feel this way and is this something the league should be addressing. good gracious people

  148. Hey Brandon… the NFL wanted to suspend Ton Brady 4 games… a judge overturned that. Your statement makes no sense.

  149. Lets not forget that Tom Brady, Bill Bilicheat, and Robert Graft are cheating at every turn, in effect they have completely ruined the integrity of the NFL. No punishment is too harsh for their conduct, and yet they only got a little slap on the wrist. Disgusting.

  150. Brandon Marshall has been out of order so many times. Here we go again, good luck Jets it’s your turn now. Why does he have to think he is so important, and we are going to listen to him?? He needs to shut up, and play football.

  151. First of all he was referring to conversations that happen in the locker room. The culture of players being raised in differ parts of the U.S. does cause players to think that whites are more favored. Look at the fines for inappropriate wearing of uniform, sportsmanship(taunting), fighting(Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (no active involvement): $2,500 / $7,500, Verbal or other Non-Physical Offense Against Official: $20,000 / $40,000… now go do your homework and see if any whites are getting hit with fines of that nature like blacks. Those are fines the players are being hit with that media is not reporting

  152. Dang what happened to Brandon Marshall, I was upset when the Bears let him go…. but after all the garbage he has been spewing, no wonder they let him go.

  153. Meanwhile Russell Wilson basically gets Tom Brady treatment from the media and league.

    Shut up Brandon, you are paid because you are athletic, not because of your intelligence.

  154. To all Jets fans. The REAL circus has rolled into town. Believe me, it’s going to get a lot worse. Probably the worst FA signing in Jets history. NY press and media are going to chew Marshal up and the. The balls start dropping out if his hands.

  155. jetsarestacked says:
    Sep 9, 2015 8:46 AM
    it will likely get lost in the conversation, but it’s pretty interesting that there’s a shared perception among black AND white players. since i’m not a player i can’t possibly say that this isn’t true.

    i absolutely believe certain quarterbacks, who happen to be white, do get special treatment from the league on the field. i’ve seen it for years in the afc east with brady. he goes ballistic on referees if he thinks he’s hit too hard or too late. any other positional players get flagged in an instant for that behavior.

    ——-
    Brady does get hit far too late and far too often with far too few roughing penalties. The hit that took him out in 08, no penalty called. For every time a player gets called for a littel tap to a QB face mask, that qb hits the deck on late hits 10 times with no flag. Next time you watch a game, don’t follow the ball. You’ll see more of what happens.

  156. “rodjmaw says:
    Sep 9, 2015 10:09 AM

    First of all he was referring to conversations that happen in the locker room. The culture of players being raised in differ parts of the U.S. does cause players to think that whites are more favored. Look at the fines for inappropriate wearing of uniform, sportsmanship(taunting), fighting(Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (no active involvement): $2,500 / $7,500, Verbal or other Non-Physical Offense Against Official: $20,000 / $40,000… now go do your homework and see if any whites are getting hit with fines of that nature like blacks. Those are fines the players are being hit with that media is not reporting”

    Because white players aren’t doing those things!

    What, should there be a quota now for fines just so black players who can’t control themselves on the field don’t feel singled out? So white players should just be randomly fined to fill some quota even if they don’t do anything wrong? Give me a break.

    This is the biggest problem when it comes to people whining about blacks getting punished. They ignore that most of the time the blacks who get punished did something to deserve it and there is a higher percentage of blacks doing things that warrant the punishment. Blacks are behind a higher percentage of committing violent crimes so obviously there will be more blacks in prison for those very crimes. If you have 30 people who commit a crime and 20 are black and all 30 go to jail then 2/3rds of them in jail will be black. It’s not discrimination but rather simple math and reality. Pretty simple but I guess there needs to be some sort of affirmative action now for criminal activity.

  157. Sep 9, 2015 7:48 AM – punkyqb says: You have to look at the circumstances each time. You have murders, assaults, drugs, rapes, manslaughter, and child abuse, than you have letting a little air out of a ball. How should this be handled. Are these equally punishable??

    You have a long list of crimes that have nothing to do with football, and then you throw in cheating during the game. The NFL has punished most players – regardless of race – more severely than our criminal justice system for violating the personal conduct policy, which deals with the integrity of the player as a person. Spygate, PEDs, and equipment tampering are examples of cheating, which violates the integrity of the game itself.

    One can argue about how involved an employer should be in policing off-duty behavior, but there is no debate when it comes to cheating on the job.

  158. Even look at the way they talk about White QB’s… all these fancy big characteristic words, when all the black QB’s get is that their athletic… I never heard them call a Black QB’s cerebral when describing them… so yes Brandon you are correct they are treated different… from off the field issues in regards to rape, domestic violence, cheating, to drug use… We all knew brady was getting off that their boy… Come on now… But thing are changing just like in the NBA the player are starting to notice and the power is going to shift… First Kam C. and watch the flood gates open… I wont be surprise as what I expect whats to come…Indeed…

  159. I said when the Brady ruling came out where it mimicked society in the fact that the rich white boy with the high dollar lawyers gets off scot free but the black offenders continue to suffer under punishments. I knew that somewhere, someone would pull the race card and that the Brady ruling would be that impetus for them to say see, the NFL is a perfect microcosm of society. It is now ALL white players get special treatment and ALL black players are treated harshly. Just another fallout from a very poor ruling by a biased judge that will be overturned in appeals court because of just this type of thing. Judges read newspapers and with the stuff in the media now, a judge would have more than enough impetus to reverse Judge Bermans decision that was overreaching to start with.

  160. Brandon – how about some examples to support your argument.

    Tom Brady – balls are underinflated – 4 games (overturned)
    Ray Rice – beats up girlfriend – 1 year suspension
    Adrian Peterson – beating his kid – 1 year suspension

    Are we talking apples and oranges? What other QBs do you have examples of? You’re comparing off the field misconduct versus on the field rules violations.

    ——————————————————————-

    Exactly the point. Rice and Peterson did nothing in terms of the NFL integrity. Maybe the commish should actually be more worried about the on the field crap before off the field. I find it more the Criminal’s Justice System to handle off-the field issues, and the NFL Commissioner to handle cases like the Brady one. The point is that of course Brady is the one to beat Goodell and his crap.

  161. I figured this post would be filled with White people denying that Racism even exists anymore. Then, when White people are in full denial effect mode, they project that it is actually Non-White people who are the real Racists. Classic Racist tactic: to make them themselves the victim.

    “White” people, as a group, lack the ability to have empathy for others which is common narcissistic, sociopathic behavior. In most White people’s eyes, Racism is a figment of Non-White people’s imagination and just a bunch of whiny, cry babies with a “victims mentality”, whatever the hell that means. That’s an easy conclusion to come to when it doesn’t effect you. You have to have the ability to see another person as yourself before you can see what another person is going through. It’s a shame that we sit here in 2015 and people are the same sad, scared children they’ve been for 400 years or so and refuse to look at the true image of themselves, instead of the fantasy they create.

  162. You’d hafta be a fly on the wall at the NFL offices to know exactly how much race comes into the question (not much I’m sure) but since a majority of QBs are white I can see how a black player would be upset. It’s the money position in the league and it seems like league does it everything it can to protect the “money makers”.

    The NFL is the Fox News of sports leagues… Their de facto motto is “fair and balanced” when they’re talking player discipline but we all know it’s about protecting the money makers and their favorite owner (Robert Kraft).

  163. rodjmaw says:
    Sep 9, 2015 10:09 AM
    First of all he was referring to conversations that happen in the locker room. The culture of players being raised in differ parts of the U.S. does cause players to think that whites are more favored. Look at the fines for inappropriate wearing of uniform, sportsmanship(taunting), fighting(Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (no active involvement): $2,500 / $7,500, Verbal or other Non-Physical Offense Against Official: $20,000 / $40,000… now go do your homework and see if any whites are getting hit with fines of that nature like blacks. Those are fines the players are being hit with that media is not reporting
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    Okay, now lets see the ethnicity of those fined, for each action, and then the video of the action. I am guessing that since the NFL is more than half black, by that number alone one could guess that more black players get fined for ANYTHING. It’s not a white or black thing. It’s all on video. If whites aren’t getting hit with those fines, it’s more likely because they’re not committing the same offenses. No one needs to do YOUR homework, you’re claiming its lopsided by race, so its on you to prove it.

  164. I think it’s racists when a team wants to hire a new coach and is “required” to interview a black applicant but not required to interview a white applicant.

  165. racistchecker says:
    Sep 9, 2015 10:33 AM
    I figured this post would be filled with White people denying that Racism even exists anymore. Then, when White people are in full denial effect mode, they project that it is actually Non-White people who are the real Racists. Classic Racist tactic: to make them themselves the victim.

    “White” people, as a group, lack the ability to have empathy for others which is common narcissistic, sociopathic behavior. In most White people’s eyes, Racism is a figment of Non-White people’s imagination and just a bunch of whiny, cry babies with a “victims mentality”, whatever the hell that means. That’s an easy conclusion to come to when it doesn’t effect you. You have to have the ability to see another person as yourself before you can see what another person is going through. It’s a shame that we sit here in 2015 and people are the same sad, scared children they’ve been for 400 years or so and refuse to look at the true image of themselves, instead of the fantasy they create.

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    Funny this is the most racist thing I have read on here. Way to group all white people into one bug bunch.

  166. The league needs to publish what disciplinary action will take place for each offense. Ex- cheating- 4 games, DUI-4 games, Spousal abuse- 10 games. they have set rules for performance enhancement drugs why not for the other offenses.
    Im sure Marshall is referring to more of the smaller offenses that we never know about like uniform violations, late for practices and things of that nature.

  167. Is there any actual research that goes into these ridiculous accusations? Or is it just a way to play the sad violin for black players when they get in trouble?

  168. Now we get race thrown into this nonsense.

    Marshall is just showing how dopey he is. Here’s the truth, Brandon: more black players are getting into trouble than white players.

    Explain that one before you bring up the race card.

  169. Sports is one arena where there is a level playing field. Value for value. Players get hired and paid according to what they bring in. Blacks who work hard and have the ability succeed, the same with everyone.
    Injecting racism without weighing the nature of the crime or violation committed is inflammatory, irresponsible, mindless and divisive.
    Whites esp. QBs are treated differently, so he infers. Brady was punished by the NFL equal to PED violation for being generally aware that somebody might be doing wrong. Vick was convicted of exploiting then killing helpless dogs for sport. Is there even a comparison here?
    Brady was dragged through the mud for four months. The NFL was/ is not very nice to this white QB. It is the judge who corrected the injustice done to Tom Brady by the NFL.

    What people like this man need to do is indulge in honest introspection instead of mouthing rote answer to the woes of the blacks population.

  170. Not wanted in Denver. Not wanted in Miami. Not wanted in Chicago. Soon to be not wanted in New York. But I’ve always liked the guy for his natural ability to look stupid all the time.

  171. He is partially correct. 99% of the rule violations like wife beating in an elevator, bar fighting, getting stopped with a gun, car full of dope and 150,000 in cash are mostly done by black guys behaving badly.

    When a white guy fails a drug test they don’t know what the hell to do with him.

  172. When you introduce the US Govt into the NFL Locker Room did you expect anything else than pay-to-play and racism? Black players saw the evidence, but Judge Walt Berman was paid to just tuck it.

  173. californiaqid says:
    Sep 9, 2015 2:48 AM
    I’m whiter than a new pair of socks and I agree with Brandon Marshall. The residual racism in NFL treatment is disgusting.
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    There is racism in this country without a doubt but don’t see how it applies here. There are currently 26 players missing at least the first game of the season because of personal conduct; substance abuse, or serving indefinately. Please enlighten me on the players white or black that should be included on that list.

  174. Marshawn Lynch doesn’t want to talk to the press (can we blame him?) he gets huge fines.

    Brady destroys his phone and cheats year after year…he gets a slap on the hand.

    I don’t know if it’s race or Kraft…but there is definitely a problem in the NFL.

    WE ALL KNOW it’s time for a new commissioner. Condoleeza Rice would be a great replacement!

  175. if you’re a white guy the world is slanted in your favour.

    If life was a 100 yard dash – white guys start somewhere up the track…is it 50 yards, 40? 30? 10?…who knows – but it’s a huge advantage still. Not like it was 200 years ago, or even 50…but it’s still big.

    things are getting better, but white boys (like me) have a head start. It’s not good to pretend otherwise.

  176. The NFL should have zero to add for punishment for OFF the field issues! It should be up to discretion of the owner. As with Biscotti, Rice was immediately kicked off the team. The NFL should only punish for ON the field issues! Brady cheating is MUCH worse than Rice or Peterson. I really don’t care about those issues. I don’t want the NFL for role models, I watch because of the game. If there is no integrity, I don’t watch.

  177. Exactly the point. Rice and Peterson did nothing in terms of the NFL integrity. Maybe the commish should actually be more worried about the on the field crap before off the field. I find it more the Criminal’s Justice System to handle off-the field issues, and the NFL Commissioner to handle cases like the Brady one. The point is that of course Brady is the one to beat Goodell and his crap.

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    OK then explain away Big Ben. Not convicted or even arrested for anything and is still the only player to get suspended under those terms. What Rice and Peterson did shed a bad light on the NFL and that is clearly conduct detrimental to the league.

  178. He should concentrate on making headlines from his play on the field. Take the focus off the ineptness on the field and onto other things, he’s turning out to be a good NY Jet!

  179. swagger52 says:
    Sep 9, 2015 11:59 AM
    The NFL should have zero to add for punishment for OFF the field issues! It should be up to discretion of the owner. As with Biscotti, Rice was immediately kicked off the team. The NFL should only punish for ON the field issues! Brady cheating is MUCH worse than Rice or Peterson. I really don’t care about those issues. I don’t want the NFL for role models, I watch because of the game. If there is no integrity, I don’t watch.

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    Sorry but some under inflated footballs is no where near as bad as causing physical damage to a woman and child. I’ve known a few people who lost their jobs due to DUIs. These guys know that if they break the law it falls under conduct detrimental to the league and sorry but that is on them. Wow I can’t believe some of the things people say. What if Ray Rice hit your sister or mother like that how would you feel then?

  180. IF what brandon is saying is true.
    THE UNION would have been all over Roger while he is weak and taking him completely to the ground.
    Clearly it is NOT true or Mr Smith being the legal expert he is would turn the NFL on its ear in the media and the court system.
    Brandon Marshall has it wrong. It could be for many reasons but he is still Wrong.
    But then again who in the media has let the facts ruin the story here lately

  181. patriots123456 says:
    Sep 9, 2015 10:44 AM
    I think it’s racists when a team wants to hire a new coach and is “required” to interview a black applicant but not required to interview a white applicant.

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    The talent pool of white Head Coach candidates are greater.
    PS: It’s not “black applicants” it’s minority applicants. That includes white women.

    Either way, it doesn’t mean they have to be hired. They “have” to interview one minority candidate meanwhile they can interview as many white male applicants as they choose.

  182. Apparently he also said if Cam Newton had done it he would have been suspended. Oh the irony, the Panther did tamper with balls and Newton was not suspended. Meanwhile Brady didn’t and was suspended.

  183. lovethelions says:
    Sep 9, 2015 11:58 AM
    Marshawn Lynch doesn’t want to talk to the press (can we blame him?) he gets huge fines.

    Brady destroys his phone and cheats year after year…he gets a slap on the hand.

    I don’t know if it’s race or Kraft…but there is definitely a problem in the NFL.

    WE ALL KNOW it’s time for a new commissioner. Condoleeza Rice would be a great replacement!

    ——————————————————————

    Look, there is a rule about players having to be able to talk to the media. Just because you don’t agree with the rule doesn’t mean that you don’t get punished for breaking it.

    I don’t agree with my bonus last year being taxable at roughly 40%, but that doesn’t mean I get an exemption from paying it.

    You know why Lynch got fined for not talking to the media and not Brady? Because Brady talked to the media and Lynch refused to.

    Comparing the 2 are absurd.

  184. How many millions in money gambled is compromised in Brady’s deflating for an advantage? Underinflated footballs and compromising Sport is a LOT more important relative to SPORT. You have this over-inflated sense of domestic abuse because the US is so female-centric. Want to know why Ray Rice’s punishment wasn’t more fair to start? Because Janae Rice lied about what happened as well. She realized that was the end of her pay day if the truth got out.

  185. I love how quickly everyone forgets that the NFL did everything in their power to uphold Bradys suspension and the courts overturned. Then again if thy acknowledge that part of it then they couldn’t use it to support their the NFL is racist argument.

  186. Wonder if Brandon Marshall has ever checked out the ‘Days Without An Arrest’ section of this website. If he had he would notice that 99.8% of the NFL players arrested are not of the white complexion. Just saying!

  187. Check the “Police Blotter” you race-card wielding moron. Criminals get treated differently than anyone else.

  188. conflictedobserver says:
    Sep 9, 2015 12:11 PM

    Clearly it is NOT true or Mr Smith being the legal expert he is would turn the NFL on its ear in the media and the court system.
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    Literally the funniest, most absurd line of the week. Smith authorized the current CBA, right.

    LOL.

  189. Marshall’s point isn’t really about Brady. Deflategate was just a pretext to broach the broader topic of crime and punishment and race in the US. A flimsy pretext, maybe, but an important, all-encompassing subject. And Marshall’s not wrong.

  190. I will remain neutral on this overall. From so many factors that point in all directions.

    If he wants to keep it to the QB position. We just had a black one that got his jaw broken by his own peers. Did he cover this?

  191. This is pretty simple. Why doesn’t the white media spend as much time investigating
    the case and evidence against Greg Hardy as they did with Tom Brady. There is zero evidence that Greg Hardy beat anyone. The NFL investigators still have not interviewed the alleged victim, but no one in the press questions this. There’s been 10,000 hours of Brady evidence examination on ESPN and only about 10 seconds of Hardy evidence examination. So if Brandon Marshall is so far off base why the disparity.

  192. One man sees meat, one man sees poison. As most everyone here posting knows, Brandon Marshall is poison himself. Take ANYTHING he says with a grain of salt…or less.

  193. Well Brandon, comparing white qb’s and their crimes to black qb’s and there crimes is interesting.

    Brady: accused of saggy balls, suspension 4 games, nothing legally will happen civilly as no laws were broken.

    Vick: suspended indefinitely without pay by league CONVICTED OF killing ANIMALS FOR PROFIT, PRISON.

    Yes let’s compare the QB’s as Brandon does.
    HHHMMMM, comments Brandon?

  194. Even overlooking race, he’s absolutely right about quarterbacks. Especially Brady, Peyton, Rodgers and the other top dogs. Bumping into Brady is 15 yards, but massacre Bortles, Fitzpatrick, McCown, etc and its just a great defensive play.

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