NFL on headset problems: “Patriots had nothing to do with it”

AP

The NFL spent several months dealing with Deflategate and never got a satisfactory resolution, but the league is hoping to put Headsetgate to rest within a day.

The league said Friday afternoon that there is no reason to believe the Patriots did anything to tamper with the Steelers’ coach-to-coach communications in Thursday’s game. Instead, electrical problems and bad weather caused the interference the Steelers’ coaches were hearing.

“Based on our review to date, we believe that the audio interference on Steelers’ headsets last night was entirely attributable to an electrical issue made worse by the inclement weather; that it involved no manipulation by any individual; and that the Patriots had nothing to do with it,” the league’s statement said. “The issue was promptly resolved and there were no further problems for the remainder of the game. We will continue to review the matter to determine if there are technical steps that can be taken to avoid similar problems from occurring in other games.”

That explanation won’t satisfy everyone. It doesn’t explain, for instance, the Steelers’ claim that the headset problems repeatedly went away when a league official came down to the sideline to inspect the matter, only to recur when the league official left. And it doesn’t explain why several teams have made claims that the Patriots tampered with their communications’ devices.

But the league hopes that a quick resolution to Headsetgate can put the focus back on the field when the games are played on Sunday.

231 responses to “NFL on headset problems: “Patriots had nothing to do with it”

  1. Now to find out who ordered the rain storms. Mike Tomlin has reportedly complained that, “Seems like it always rains when we play here. I’m just saying, you do the math.”

  2. Spygate 2.0, NFL sweeping it under the rug once again. I don’t usually like when congress gets involved but they need to put Goodell, Kraft, Belichick, and Brady under oath and get rid of the sneaky cheating culture that plagues today’s NFL. I

  3. bunch of disinformation with an agenda attached to it…..man other teams really don’t like this current dynasty that BB and TB12 have brought……

    I am not complaining….ive had 15 years of bliss…..too awesome!!!!!

    BB = goat
    tb12= goat

  4. They’re radio waves. Anyone with a knowledge of electronics could jam radio signals. It could have been a zealous idiot fan doing it for years.

  5. Also, a firm punch to the face for people who insist on referring to any sort of overdramatic controversy as “____-gate”. You are neither clever nor funny, and I think it makes you sound like a total idiot.

  6. if the Pats had nothing to do with it, then why does it happen every time they are at home?

    the Pats cheat

    asterisk……

    please don’t delete my post again

  7. Okay, so…you’re going to believe the NFL on Deflategate, but not believe them on the headsets? Got it. Expected as much.

  8. i think the NFL is covering for the Pats.

    you know, like when they did minimized deflategate?

    -soft country-

  9. Remember that one time folks said Tom Brady couldn’t throw a football unless it was deflated, and then he won the Super Bowl and broke the franchise record for consecutive completions in back to back games? That was fun.

  10. One word comes to mind in regards to this issue…… Preperation.

    If communication issues are so common for Tomlin and the Steelers when they come to Foxboro why do they not prepare for it? Why did they not have signals ready?

    Haha, the Bill Belichick is so far into the heads of opposing coaches in the NFL is not even funny. It’s actually quite sad at this point. In a league supposedly dominated by highly competitive MEN it seems like it’s a bunch of whining little girls.

  11. In other news….Tomlin explains the Steelers brilliant defensive strategy designed to eliminate Gronk by pretending he was not there….

    Result reportedly thus far have been mixed….

  12. Given the fact that the NFL (Goodell) put pressure on Martz to keep quiet and basically swept suspicions of the Patriots cheating under the rug to preserve the image of the NFL, we can’t really trust anything the NFL says.

  13. birdgang says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:41 PM
    Spygate 2.0, NFL sweeping it under the rug once again. I don’t usually like when congress gets involved but they need to put Goodell, Kraft, Belichick, and Brady under oath and get rid of the sneaky cheating culture that plagues today’s NFL. I
    ———————————————
    Impressive logic.

  14. No wait the same NFL that destroyed all the evidence of Spygate and whatever else thy found? The same NFL that just lost in court and can’t afford another investigation?

    Which is exactly why the Patriots will do anything they want because, well who is going to stop them?

    Please all the ESPN report confirms is the NFL lies as much as the Pats!

  15. Cheating is ok as long as you win. I wish my crappy team would cheat and win a few Super Bowls like the Patriots.

  16. Fact: The Pats have been caught cheating on a grand scale. Something most Pats fans choose to ignore. Once a cheater.. well you’re going to get more accusations.

  17. There will still be people bent on believing the Patriots cheat every week. Nothing can change the mind of someone who mindlessly follows.

  18. Any engineering types care to chime in about the likelihood weather and “electrical problems” can cause wireless headsets to clearly and repeatedly pickup a different frequency, i.e. the Patriots broadcast?

  19. ..
    Tomlin said he would file formal charges with the league over the fact the Steelers did not have ” glacier freeze” flavored Gatorade available last night.

    Tomlin said that the Patriots. were the only NFL team who declined to serve ” glacier freeze” . He cited that as the main reason for the Steelers loss last night.
    .

  20. One could explain the claims that the proximity of the official to the equipment with how well it worked to the writer of the story embellishing or flat out lying for dramatic effect. Just saying…

    Of course in the long run, this is going to be added to the long list of cheating scandals that the Patriots were proven to have orchestrated. Ever since spygate, accusation after accusation has been disproven, but every one of those accusations is cited, as if it was proven, when discussing New England’s “culture of cheating”.

    Some of the best ones:
    The tuck rule was orchestrated by the pats
    The eligible/ineligible rules was cheating
    Placing microphones on their lineman
    Deflating footballs
    Manipulating the coms equipment
    Stealing non existent game scripts from a guarded locker room
    Bugging the locker room
    Watering down the field
    Manipulating the weather
    Orchestrating Blount leaving Pittsburgh
    Stealing playbooks that weren’t left in hotel rooms
    Taping teams walk through practices

    You get the idea. None of the above were legit. The rules were not violated on the receiver rule or the tuck rule. And none of the other accusations are anything but “anonymous sources” or lies. Look at deflategate, when asked if they had any evidence at all that the patriots did anything, the NFL answered no. Yet you guys know it happened. Lmfao

  21. dreadednorseman says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:43 PM
    lol @ believing anything the NFL says regarding the Patriots.

    ************

    Good to know that you believe Tom Brady was innocent and that no ball deflation scheme was in place.

  22. The Pats have been involved in so many alleged cheating episodes that they’ve proved the Duck Theory: If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it’s a frickin’ cheatin’ duck!

  23. It was the Steelers who intentionally broke Carson Palmer’s leg on the first passing play of a playoff game. The Patriots never stooped that low.

  24. @Birdgang……….you want congress to investigate? You think those idiots are good for anything?? You want your tax dollars used on the NFL??

    It might be time to change your name to BIRDBRAIN

  25. dreadednorseman says:

    “lol @ believing anything the NFL says regarding the Patriots.”

    Really? So you don’t believe anything that the league said about Deflategate? It’s about time!

  26. Lol. Humorous. Anyone that knows anything about radio frequency and operation can tell you this is preposterous. If it affected both .. then .. even then maybe. This is laughable. Not that is should even matter anymore. Ya just can’t make it up. Hell, I am not even a Patriots hater or Steelers fan!

  27. Yup, just coincidental that it always happens in New England.

    Just like it was coincidental that every time the NFL rep went to turn off the Pats headsets, because the Steelers weren’t working, they magically returned, only to fail when the rep walked away.

    It’s really a shame that the Patriots are so unlucky to be at the heart of all these cheating allegations when they clearly didn’t do anything for the past 15 years to earn the reputation.

  28. bspn is preparing an in depth report that the interference was caused by Ernie Adams’ weather control satellite…according to various unnamed sources

  29. In the last 9 games including the playoffs and SB 49,,the PATRIOTS have given up exactly 1 TD in the 4th qtr…This is a team with an .800 winning avg ON THE ROAD!!! ON THE ROAD!!! So haters explain that? Headphones? Hotels? Food? Footballs?? Uniforms? Voodoo?

    The problem with this entire debate,,is that the HATERS are unwilling to accept that since 2001, the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS,,have embraced the concept of T-E-A-M,,and not a gathering of 53 prima donnas (REVIS),,who don’t understand:
    “While a single twig is weak, a bundle of twigs is strong!!”

  30. Michael, you need to personally apologize to the Patriots.

    PFT has had a better track record in connection with Deflategate over the last month but Chris Collingswoth and Al Michaels made fools of themselves Thursday night over the headset story and you, in particular, ran numerous threads on the story.

    ESPN has been their usual joke in reporting the story.

  31. As any person in the tech industry will tell you, most users of technology have no idea what they are talking about. People often think their devices and software are acting a certain way and they are completely wrong. I’m sure the Steelers wanted to correlate what was happening to the Patriots, but it’s most likely that there was no pattern at all and it was just that the thing wasn’t working properly.

    Just because the Patriots don’t whine all the time doesn’t mean they don’t face the same issues. They just deal with it. The other teams really need to grow up.

  32. No, the league would NEVER cover for dirty deeds done by the Patriots, right?

    No, their explanation doesn’t explain why the noise went off and on with the league official coming and going. Nor does it explain why this happened to the Steelers only. Gimme a break.

  33. mackcarrington says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:45 PM
    They’re radio waves. Anyone with a knowledge of electronics could jam radio signals. It could have been a zealous idiot fan doing it for years.

    I actually believe this honestly- after all the press it would be pretty fun to do if you lived up there in Connecticut

  34. What is there from keeping someone from scanning in and causing problems? That is what it sounds like to me. That someone scanned in and was causing problems with the radios.

  35. dreadednorseman says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:45 PM

    Also, a firm punch to the face for people who insist on referring to any sort of overdramatic controversy as “____-gate”. You are neither clever nor funny, and I think it makes you sound like a total idiot.
    ==========================================

    GateHateGate

  36. Tomlin should be fined. Since when is it okay to basically accuse the other team of cheating after the game, at the press conference.

    Just because it’s the Patriots?

    You’ve had 5 months to prepare for the Pats Mike. You didn’t do a very good job.

    Tagliabue would have none of this. Goodell has lost total control of his operation and needs to go.

    Bring some integrity back into the league and hire a person with some background in law.

  37. Such idiots. They should give some detail in the “electrical issue” so you could agree that yeah NE personnel couldn’t have been involved. Probably makes them look like fools so they just let the theories run rampant.

  38. And where is the reporting that the Patriots also has intermittent headset problems last night? Is that not important to know?

  39. Disappointing. I was really looking forward to Troy Vincent, Mike Kensil and Ted Wells handling the investigation with their customary expertise and professionalism, assisted ably by modern day Edward R. Murrow Chris Mortensen.

  40. One pattern has emerged from the psi story and the headset story. Two teams, the Colts and the Steelers embellished the facts. They let their own perceptions and biases run a muck.

    The bs that “the headset problems repeatedly went away when a league official came down to the sideline to inspect the matter, only to recur when the league official left” was either due to an active imagination or an intentional fabrication. The Colts clearly acted without either an understanding of weather on ball pressure or an intentional design to distort the facts.

    Both teams and owners should be doing a major mea culpa.

  41. Funny how the Giants and Tom C with Eli go to NE and beat the Pats
    Go to two Super Bowls and beat the Pats
    I guess that means that Tom C is the better coach as everyone claims the Pats cheat how did the Giants beat them?

  42. “He told me, ‘The league doesn’t need this. We’re asking you to come out with a couple lines exonerating us and saying we did our due diligence,'” Martz told ESPN in July. Martz added that Goodell told him, “If it ever got to an investigation, it would be terrible for the league.”

  43. Can we please stop putting the -gate suffix on everything. It’s almost as annoying as the # (which, by the way, is a POUND SIGN not a hashtag!). Thank you.

  44. Roger Goodell and the league couldn’t organize a lemonade stand in downtown NYC on a 100 degree day if their lives depended on it, so let’s put them in charge of sophisticated communications systems.

  45. If we did do this why would the NFL sweep it under the rug incase you forgot there was a whole framegate investigation on us this whole off season yet you somehow think the NFL likes us?

  46. Perhaps the Patriots didn’t do anything wrong, who knows, but this wouldn’t even be an issue if we were talking about any other team in the league. There is a reason people are skeptical of any game played with this team. Their history and culture of bending the rules/cheating is the reason. They can only blame themselves.

  47. I bet that I can speak for the majority of Patriot fans when I say that it feels very strange hearing the NFL saying anything other than lies and accusations against our team. I was really starting to get used to it. I’m not so sure that I like this….
    Is Roger realizing that he is losing control, and now trying to do the right thing…..?
    Naaahhhhh!

  48. If the Patriots happen to beat my team, I hope I have the courage to admit that the Patriots were just the better team and that they better coached that game.

    I hope I never ever turn into that whiny pathetic complainer who screams “cheater” at the winners just my team lost.

  49. ‘the Steelers’ claim that the headset problems repeatedly went away when a league official came down to the sideline to inspect the matter, only to recur when the league official left.’ So I’m curious…..how many times did this happen, and if it did, and that’s a BIG ‘if’, why didn’t they request the official STAY on the sideline? Sounds like science and fact have once more destroyed a lame excuse for fielding a crappy team coupled with lousy coaching. Maybe Lily Tomlin can start doing play by play for ESPN?

  50. gridironjunky says:
    Sep 11, 2015 7:17 PM

    “He told me, ‘The league doesn’t need this. We’re asking you to come out with a couple lines exonerating us and saying we did our due diligence,’” Martz told ESPN in July. Martz added that Goodell told him, “If it ever got to an investigation, it would be terrible for the league.”
    ————————————————————-
    Apparently Roger changed his mind when it came to rooting out the cause of a possible loss of 0.0 – 0.2 PSI in a football, and decided that dragging the league through the muck for 7 months was a real good idea.

  51. I doubt this was a leak from Kensil(former Jet employee) or Vincent (former disgruntled Patriot) or Goodell ( known liar) So where did this come from? But it’s about time the Pats were exonerated as Kraft and Belichick(still were punished?????) in the Wells report. Will it last? I doubt it something will be manufactured

  52. You are not fooling anyone, NFL. No one believes you conducted a serious, thorough investigation into the headset issue in such a short time. This is clearly just “a makeup call” for Deflategate. Once again, the NFL is trying to cover up the Patriots’ comprehensive, systematic cheating. I bet league officials are in the Patriots’ secret, hidden vault right now, stomping on all of the headsets in order to destroy the evidence.

    Who makes the headsets? Bose, which is headquartered in Massachusetts. How do we know that secret people employed by the Patriots haven’t been disguised as Bose personnel and altering the Steelers’ headsets? How do we know that low-level Patriots employees aren’t sneaking into the Steelers’ locker room and stealing their electricity?

    And nice try blaming the so-called “inclement weather.” What about the people, nicknamed “weathermen,” who are apparently employed solely to predict the weather? How could they have possibly known in advance that the Steelers would run all of their formations in the rain unless they were cheating? After all, pretty much every other team in the league can recall a time they played in Foxborough and suspiciously just happened to experience “inclement weather.”

    Finally, what about all the other egregious tactics the Patriots employed? For example, having the game’s attendees be quiet while the Patriots are on offense, only to grow loud when it’s the Steelers turn to be on offense, is clearly deception. Surely that is an illegal type of a thing, or it’s at least breaking an unwritten rule and thus giving the Patriots an unfair competitive advantage. The NFL will have to make some adjustments and things like that to address this issue in the offseason.

  53. “the headset problems repeatedly went away when a league official came down to the sideline to inspect the matter, only to recur when the league official left.”

    great writing. Now the truth. An NFL official was walking to Patriots sideline ONCE, and the problem went away, as per the official NFL report.

    Now imagine, if the writer’s imagination didn’t run away from him, and option 2 was inserted.

  54. So the Deflator called his cousin Sparky to help out with the power grid in the stadium. Yea, nothing to see here so let’s move along folks.

  55. Patriots fans: Get real. Your team and coach in particular have not earned the benefit of the doubt.

    You’ll all have to live with that.

  56. Maybe ESPN can show Tomlin tripping a player every time he speaks?

    When your QB (who has won 2 SB) complains about a line shift THAT IS 100% legal you know he plays for a Coach that does not prepare his players. That is what the Steelers should be crying about.

    Teams are so spooked by the Patriots they think its Ok to complain to the media about the Pats even when they admit they don’t know the rules.

  57. Brady & GRONK are the true deflators…. They take the air out of all opposing defences/coaches/fans of every opposing team…..

  58. Pittsburgh fans must have forgotten when the Jets headphones mysteriously stopped working one playoff game @ Pittsburgh. Rex Ryan just said it happens.

  59. Gimme a break! The Deflatriots are cheaters, plain n simple…cost the Eagles a Super Bowl. Don’t doubt for an instant that they’ve tampered with the other teams headsets. Should cost em a high draft pick. Go Eagles!

  60. Except that is legal unless the defense made an audible call during it. The line judge was right there and called nothing so sorry it was legal. It was Bill outcoaching Mike

  61. You can’t play both sides of the field….either Brady deflated footballs and the Patriots had nothing to do with headset problems…..or you believe Brady had nothing to do with deflation of footballs and everything to do with headset problems….don’t be hypocritical either you believe the NFL or not….can’t have best of both worlds

  62. Sorry, other teams have NOT made charges. Unattributed statements about events years ago given to sensation-seeking reporters are not “charges.”

    Electronic communication systems have all kinds of problems everywhere.

    Anyone who saw that game last night knows the problem was not coach to coach communications — and both sides lost it for times — it was the failure of the Steelers to cover Gronk.

    New Englanders have had it with all this whining. When the Patriots lose, you do not hear all these whines and excuses.

  63. THE NFL SAID?
    Who believes anything that the NFL says.
    PATRIOTS: GUILTY

    _________________________________________

    So if you don’t believe anything the NFL says (and i can’t blame you for that) what exactly are the Patriots guilty of? Try again chief. Didn’t really think that one out did you!

  64. Goodell already took a major beating with DeflateGate and saw the writing on the wall. He’d clearly love to frame the Patriots for something else they didn’t do but wasn’t willing to take on another loser. Judge Berman was getting ready to hand Goodell his lunch a second time.

  65. The paragraph Patriot fans will pretend does not exist: ” It doesn’t explain, for instance, the Steelers’ claim that the headset problems repeatedly went away when a league official came down to the sideline to inspect the matter, only to recur when the league official left. And it doesn’t explain why several teams have made claims that the Patriots tampered with their communications’ devices.”

  66. “Friday morning, a report on Steelers.com, the team’s official website, said that whenever an NFL representative was on the Patriots’ sideline, the Steelers’ headsets cleared, but when the representative walked away, the game broadcast returned. ESPN has not been able to independently confirm that report, which was unattributed.” – ESPN

    Given that the Steelers posted the accusation to their website they should be fined and lose a draft pick.

    If the Colts leaked the deflategate story to Kravitz they should also be fined and lose a draft pick.

    The NFL can’t have owners intentionally trying to damage other franchises through the media.

    I will say this for the Steelers, they didn’t hide under a local blogger’s skirt.

  67. Where is Florio on this whole thing? he typically jumps all over this and blames the NFL for not doing anything right and claiming his legal experience sheds light on everything.

  68. So every week were gonna have to endure an excuse for why the Patriots cheated? They must have done a rain dance last night too right?

    Wasn’t Tomlin the guy who tried to trip Jacoby Jones on a kickoff return??? Yeh, were the cheaters bro!

  69. Perception is everything. It may have seemed headset reception came and went with the NFL officials because a) Steelers coaches were frustrated by the interference and looking for someone to blame, and b) the league has made it easy for everyone to blame the Patriots.

    I wish my Steelers had just manned up, congratulated the Pats, and turned their attention to addressing the team’s many performance issues. But the person truly to blame for this controversy is Roger Goodell. By turning an irrelevant issue of ball deflation into a Big Courtroom Drama, he made everyone paranoid about New England and told the world the NFL can’t handle its business. Goodell’s got to go.

  70. Someone in this thread was talking about walking like a duck. That is similar to Occam’s Razor. The simplest answer is most likely true. In this case is it more likely that the Patriots, coming off a a million dollar fine, losing 2 draft picks and a gruelling court battle for their starting QB (that is still ongoing) decided to blatently cheat in a way that would be easily detected and reported in the very first game of the season with every NFL fan in the world watching and the NFL are voluntarily covering it up… Or … Is it more likely that the NFL manage the tech as they explained and it was just having issues and they fixed it.

    Anyone that believes the first explanation is being purposely unreasonable.

  71. dreadednorseman says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:45 PM
    Also, a firm punch to the face for people who insist on referring to any sort of overdramatic controversy as “____-gate”. You are neither clever nor funny, and I think it makes you sound like a total idiot.

    ————-
    Oh, no! Firmpunchtothefacegate!!!

  72. tigerlilac says:
    Sep 11, 2015 7:51 PM

    I will say this for the Steelers, they didn’t hide under a local blogger’s skirt.
    ————————————————————-
    I guess there is a certain amount of honor in being a direct whiner and excuse maker, as opposed to the Colts who are simply as soft as Charmin in everything they do.

    As an aside, I’m excited to watch the Colts try to defend the run in Buffalo this week. My guess is Buffalo doesn’t throw a single pass the entire game.

  73. adrianbeatason says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:50 PM
    Given the fact that the NFL (Goodell) put pressure on Martz to keep quiet and basically swept suspicions of the Patriots cheating under the rug to preserve the image of the NFL, we can’t really trust anything the NFL says.

    ===

    And yet I’m sure you 100% trust everything Goodell concluded about deflategate, because… reasons.

  74. Here is the one question I have. (For the record, I am a Ravens fan). Take the teams out of it for a moment. If this “technical” issue occurs at our stadiums, as they say…but other teams have noticed it happens more at Gillette Stadium more so than others…and it’s being happening for awhile now…..how come the NFL can’t seem to find a permanent fix for this issue? Sure…they have Microsoft tablets, etc, now…but you can’t seem to fix these constant headset interference issues…regardless of team AND stadium?

  75. Nothing short of booting the Pats from the NFL will satisfy all the haters. Nice try,Tomlin. DO YOUR JOB and coach your team the right way. We’re on to Buffalo.

  76. “It is downright BIZARRE to hear the NFL suddenly…

    telling the truth, for once!”
    ——————————–

    Ah so it’s the truth when the Patriots aren’t being blamed and false when the Patriots are.

  77. “The paragraph Patriot fans will pretend does not exist: ‘It doesn’t explain, for instance, the Steelers’ claim that the headset problems repeatedly went away when a league official came down to the sideline to inspect the matter, only to recur when the league official left. And it doesn’t explain why several teams have made claims that the Patriots tampered with their communications’ devices.’ ”

    Of course we won’t pretend that paragraph doesn’t exist because it is an indictment of the paranoia surrounding the Patriots, not of the Patriots. Both the Steelers and the Colts were caught embellishing the facts. If you took the time to investigate yourself, you would see that the NFL, on its own website, jokes about Southwest Airline pilots, Madonna, and popcorn vendors interrupting the communication between coaches and the quarterback. They also admit they are responsible for keeping those lines clear, not the teams.

    Try watching “Mean Girls”, or read Judge Berman’s decision. You might learn something about human nature.

  78. my favorite part about this whole thing, is after everything, kensil is the one tasked with investigating if anything happened. the man who has been fingered with starting the rumor using mort, is in charge of finding out whether or not the patriots messed with the headsets. its pure poetry. after this, even if you hate the patriots, you can’t ignore the fact that the nfl will do anything to destroy this franchise. so blatantly the nfl stokes the fire, and everyone eats it up. the nfl is in charge of the equipment and is responsible for it all game. to think the patriots are dumb enough to mess with the headsets first quarter of the first game is truly not believable. unless you hang afc finalst banners and celebrate anything other than championships. you should all be ashamed of yourselves. this isn’t middle school, you don’t get a participation award.

  79. NFL: It was Oswald in the library with the candlestick . . . and he acted alone. Move on along . . .

  80. The Patriots issue was coach to player. The Steelers issue was coach to coach. Huge difference. And BB said this was a constant problem. Seriously, does anyone believe he would not be tearing heads off unless he could use it to his advantage?

  81. Why hasn’t someone noticed that the Patriots always seem to play in cold rainy games? Coincidence? I don’t think so! Obviously their coach has some way to manipulate the weather! He must have some weather-machine. Find that weather-machine and you will have a real scandal!

  82. Please explain something. Why doesn’t New England win the the Super Bowl every other year. And a couple of other back to backs for good measure?

    After all, they cheat. Right?

  83. Team * strikes again…

    They have cheated so much, they can now commit even more underhanded deed and claim anything brought up is persecution…

    Why’s everybody always pickin’ on me?

  84. gridironjunky says:
    Sep 11, 2015 7:17 PM

    “He told me, ‘The league doesn’t need this. We’re asking you to come out with a couple lines exonerating us and saying we did our due diligence,’” Martz told ESPN in July. Martz added that Goodell told him, “If it ever got to an investigation, it would be terrible for the league.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Goodell told him, “If it ever got to an investigation, it would be terrible for the league.”

    Do you not realize what was on those tapes that Goodel destroyed ??? Are you that DUMB.

    Goodel was destroying the EVIDENCE of 31 other Teams CHEATING – DUH.
    Belichick was NOT filming the Patriots cheating, he was filming 31 other Teams CHEATING. That is why Goodel & the Owners PANICKED and told Goodel “Destroy the EVIDENCE against us and hush up Martz or we will ALL be investigated and EXPOSED. Read again what Goodel said:

    Goodell = “If it ever got to an investigation, it would be terrible for the league.”

    Terrible for the LEAGUE = 32 Teams

  85. Brady just spanked the NFL in court, after the NFL hit him and the Patriots with a ridiculous punishment for a crime they couldn’t even prove happened… despite an apparent sting operation to catch them in the act.

    Why the hell would anyone think, after all that, the league would proceed to cover up the fact the Patriots were screwing with the Steelers headsets? That makes very little sense.

  86. bigbluefan1 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 7:16 PM
    Funny how the Giants and Tom C with Eli go to NE and beat the Pats
    Go to two Super Bowls and beat the Pats
    I guess that means that Tom C is the better coach as everyone claims the Pats cheat how did the Giants beat them?
    ———
    Because they matched up with us incredibly well…..no excuses. They beat us.

  87. Old proverb: Where there’s smoke, there’s fire — and in modern times, it’s represented by the law firm:

    Belicheat & Bradycheat

  88. fanfrommontreal says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:39 PM

    Will this impress the haters? I doubt it…

    Pats fans need to understand something. People who call people haters don’t understand that sometimes, people hate your team for a reason. And there’s a good reason.

    Blind faith is a sign of not having an independent mind, or one capable of critical thinking. You don’t. Bill Cosby – can’t prove it…but you know he did it. OJ – can’t prove it…but you know he did it.

    But you Pats fans – can’t prove it, and you’re the only ones who don’t know they cheat. Or in your parlance, if you know the word, “try to gain the most advantage on the field.” No, I don’t think they had anything to do with last night. Anything. But when you have teams afraid of being in your locker rooms, when ex-team members confirm dirty dealings…listen if my team had these issues I’d say they’re dirty.

    Your team is dirty. And people who think they are aren’t haters. Do I hate the Patriots? Yes I do. Because they’re a smug, dirty team that has never won a Super Bowl by more than 3-4 points and every one of those seasons is marred by a rumor of cheating. Blow out someone and those go away.

    But I am not a hater. I am a critical thinker who uses common sense to say hmm…preponderance of evidence or in non-Florio land, “where there’s smoke there’s fire.”

    I used to root for you. Now I don’t. Because I think the organization has fallen from even the most reasonable sense of plausible deniability. And the fans are worse.

  89. randomguy9999 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:46 PM

    if the Pats had nothing to do with it, then why does it happen every time they are at home?

    the Pats cheat

    asterisk……

    please don’t delete my post again
    ——
    hope they don’t delete it, people need to see the level of insanity we are dealing with

  90. Well NFL, unfortunately we, the fans, cannot trust a word you say on anything, just like we can’t trust the Patriots; both thanks largely to the way you handled every past incident involving the Patriots.

  91. And each time officials stepped in the weather was put on hold? The league just figured it’s easier trying to maintain damage control as they have prior to Deflategate.
    Tired of cheating scandals? Want to focus on football? Everyone does. Kick NE out of the league already.

  92. dynaflashtech says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:59 PM
    Lol. Humorous. Anyone that knows anything about radio frequency and operation can tell you this is preposterous. If it affected both .. then .. even then maybe. This is laughable. Not that is should even matter anymore. Ya just can’t make it up. Hell, I am not even a Patriots hater or Steelers fan!
    ——————-
    It did happen to both teams’ headsets. And it’s not laughable, it as simple as a ground fault. Happens all the time!

  93. Ironically, the NFL cleared the Patriots (as it should have) of any wrong doing with headsets and the haters will just continue to try and try to pick up steam on how they just cheat no matter what. Geez people, the Pats just got cleared of the deflategate fiasco only to get revisited the next day by ESPN, more spygate BS (8 years later from closure and fines) reports. Even though the NFL cleared the Patriots (as they have nothing to do with the Wi-Fi communications, Duh). The next 15 weeks will no doubt be filled with more wild and unfounded accusations of all types from teams that face the losing end of a game with them. This is so just another modern-day version of the Salem witch hunt (only 323 years later) directed by the NFL and driven by its $1.2+billion per year minion, ESPN. You all keep drinking that Goodell Kool-Aid. Until he is gone this will never end and I would NEVER wish this needless witch-hunt on any person and their favorite team or players. Keep in mind that your team and owner might very well be next in Goodells sights. Please people, wake up and see the forest through the trees, in a nutshell, Goodell must leave office to better the NFL, not burn Brady and Belichick at the stake based on biased, false and “independent” investigations that have no real merit. Of course, haters will retort and will reiterate sentence #4 in my post. The best to all on the road trip to Santa Clara!

  94. When do the Patriots get the apology from the Steelers for their false accusations. Oh wait haters don’t fess up when they are wrong #LosersComplainWinnersJustWin

  95. The sad truth is, fans of teams that have been beaten by the Patriots in the Belichick / Brady / Kraft era need to look in the mirror and admit that if their team was better, they would have won. Please tell me how the Pats cheated in the Superbowl where they came back from 14 points down and beat the big, bad, arrogant Seahawks? No other team in the history of sports would have won that game with the whole world screaming about deflated balls. Give me a freaking break. Tomlin is like Dungy, Suggs, Harbaugh, Polian, Kurt Warner, Aikman, Ray Lewis, etc. They are all thin skinned losers and hypocrites.

    Bring it. Bill resides in your heads.

  96. I am digging more into Tomlin’s comments about headsets. They’re over the top.

    Facts:
    Since joining the Steelers as head coach in 2007 Tomlin has a 2-5 record versus the Patriots, 1-3 at Heinz Field and 1-2 at Gillette. He has a better record at Gillette than he does at home.

    Belichick is 9-2 versus the Steelers.

  97. fanfrommontreal says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:39 PM
    Will this impress the haters? I doubt it…
    =================================
    That’s not important though. I love it when the Patriots are hated more and more. Imagine how much the hate would be if the Pats won SB 50.

  98. Who would ever believe the NFL when it comes to figuring out who is doing what. They see no evil and hear no evil when it protects the sheild? Yuk, Yuk

  99. Here’s the deal — the meme is the ‘Patriots are cheaters.’ Therefore everything goes wrong, even if it happens to them too, is still evidence of cheating.

    It really doesn’t matter the NFL’s case was laughable, political and inept (of which it’s hard to figure out which characteristic is the dominant one). It must be true despite all the evidence that it wasn’t.

    It really doesn’t matter the NFL is a multi-billion dollar industry that, through it’s ineptitude, cheapness and ignorance can’t simple things right. Anyone who has owned a portable phone knows you have to worry about interference. Something that the NFL still hasn’t been able to figure out since they went to the cordless head-sets.

  100. We cheat really? when? oh yeah your one and only 07 spygate. When else have we cheated? formationgate was legal til the league said no tuckrulegate was legal and the Pats were victimized by it to as the Jets won the division that year. deflategate even Wells basically said he could not prove anything happened snowplowgate Shula was also offered the snow plow he declined ok so when have we cheated ?

  101. reddzen, everyone who generalizes about a group or outright discriminates against them believes it is justified. Part of that justification is often a verbal attack on the target telling them they are responsible and brought the hateful comments upon themselves.

    The haters are called haters because they say hateful things, and they do it with malice.In reality, the accusations hurled at the target by the hater are often baseless.

  102. It doesn’t explain, for instance, the Steelers’ claim that the headset problems repeatedly went away when a league official came down to the sideline to inspect the matter, only to recur when the league official left.

    Kind of interesting…

  103. The only takeaway from that game the Steelers should be concerned about was how massively undisciplined they all looked compared to the Pats. They played very well on the whole, many great plays by individual players, but the overall team and its leadership looked so out of sorts next to the Pats.

    Steelers coaches call weird plays and then repeated fraidy-cat field-goal attempts, and then have the nerve to complain about headsets after the game? You’re in the red zone against the Pats – go for it on 4th down. The Steelers had their chances and didn’t take them.

    Tomlin played to not lose and shifted the blame to headsets and young players. Not a good look for a leader.

  104. Do you think if the Steelers honestly think the Patriots were doing this, they would have dropped the complaint? Pretty clearly they realize that they messed up.

  105. Must be fun to be a Pats fan. Playing victim, feeling vindicated with every trolling tweet. I like my team. We talk about football. Just wait til Brady gets outed.

  106. rschmitt523 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 8:45 PM

    It doesn’t explain, for instance, the Steelers’ claim that the headset problems repeatedly went away when a league official came down to the sideline to inspect the matter, only to recur when the league official left.

    Kind of interesting…

    ——————

    That reminds me of this:

    “You can see that as the number of pirates in the world has decreased over the past 130 years, global warming has gotten steadily worse. In fact, this makes it entirely clear that if you truly want to stop global warming, the most impactful thing to do is — become a pirate.”

    The point is that just because 2 things happened it doesn’t mean they are correlated. Someone perceived that was happening every time the person was coming and going, but I am sure that instead of making an uneducated assumption, if you asked someone who was working on fixing the technology they would be able to explain exactly what happened in detail and it would be more plausible then a blind guess from a football guy who knows nothing about wireless radio networks.

  107. Just saw the YouTube video of Brady motioning to someone and the playclock reset against the steelers. Crazy stuff. Time clock gate

  108. jmoney74 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 6:52 PM

    Fact: The Pats have been caught cheating on a grand scale. Something most Pats fans choose to ignore. Once a cheater.. well you’re going to get more accusations.

    ————

    Fact: It’s not clear you know what the word “fact” means.

  109. There is a video that should be viral soon of Brady giving a signal at the 10 sec mark on the play clock, and it goes back to 25 on his command. He snaps at 1 sec left and pass gets batted down by Timmons. 50 seconds between plays, and blatant cheating.

    It’s time to blow the lid off of this

  110. When those Patriots defeated my Eagles in the Super Bowl I hated them.
    Now I read that the Patriots had their way with My Eagles’ dime defense because the Patriots musta bin cheetin.
    The Eagles say that they used this defense rarely during that season so the Patriots musta bin cheetin.
    Hell, maybe the Patriots looked at game tape. Duh!
    I will NEVER root for any team cept them Eagles BUT I sure feel sorry for the Patriots cause they are getting hosed.

  111. Any engineering types care to chime in about the likelihood weather and “electrical problems” can cause wireless headsets to clearly and repeatedly pickup a different frequency, i.e. the Patriots broadcast?
    ===
    Run two cables down a conduit or raceway where one is high current and carrying the broadcast and another is low current and carrying the coach-to-coach comms.

    If the shielding is bad, you might get inductive interference. It’s the same reason you’re not supposed to run mains down a conduit carrying data/video/telephony.

    You could also have grounding issues that could cause things like ground loops or ground current. Those would be exacerbated by water.

  112. Anyone that knows anything about radio frequency and operation can tell you this is preposterous.
    ===
    And anyone who knows anything about encryption knows that nobody messed with the radio transmission. If the overlaid signal came through clearly, then it was injected to the coach-to-coach channel either before encryption and transmission or after reception and decryption. Injecting it between those two points would have resulted in a scrambled signal and loss of both the original and injected messages.

  113. The only takeaway from that game the Steelers should be concerned about was how massively undisciplined they all looked compared to the Pats. They played very well on the whole, many great plays by individual players, but the overall team and its leadership looked so out of sorts next to the Pats.

    Agree wholeheartedly with kevpft on this–and as a diehard Steelers fan, it has been my takeaway on the game. That’s why I’m so annoyed with Tomlin and the Steelers organization for focusing attention on something as silly as headset issues. When one team’s headset malfunctions, both teams’ headsets are turned off. The cause is irrelevant, both teams’ headsets are turned off. The Steelers have much more important issues to address. They didn’t lose the game because of the headsets.

  114. bonesawisready says:
    Sep 11, 2015 8:28 PM
    Well NFL, unfortunately we, the fans, cannot trust a word you say on anything, just like we can’t trust the Patriots; both thanks largely to the way you handled every past incident involving the Patriots.
    ————————-
    That’s ironic, all those people eating up the NFL putting the smack down on the Pats, we’re so sure they (the shield) was being 100% truthful….a Federal Judge thought otherwise and now you all are quick to flip flop and say the NFL can’t be trusted and they are just covering for the Pats. Which is it, you can’t have your cake and eat it too…the other possibility is most of you are just trolls…and your trolling is as obvious as Gronk’s being wide open last night…..

    But but the headsets….We’re on to Buffalo!

  115. Yup, the NFL was fair in this investigation for this one. All my Patriots fans agree with me on that.

  116. Tomlin must be under incredible pressure to offer up this lame excuse for the loss. You know that every loss tightens the noose. Steeler fans are among the most obsessed in the NFL and Art Rooney knows that Tomlin better deliver this year or a change will be forced.

  117. There was a large storm over the stadium most of the game. Large storms contain enough electrical disruption (lightning) to mess with RF. Rain can also absorb or scatter RF, causing intermittent interference. Or, if you don’t want to take my word for it, ask someone with a dish what happens to their service when there is a storm. Also, try listening to the radio during a big storm. Science is a real challenge for some of you people, isn’t it.

  118. Pats fans kill me.. by there own logic this alone means that the Patriots are guilty. all I have heard is you cant trust the shield. But now… you have to trust the league. Give me a break. Whole franchise is a joke. Just go away. 🙂

  119. If you broke off the entire Patriots franchise and their coaching staff and began the formation of a new league, which would have the better on the field product after 3 years?

  120. I have installed these systems for years. I can tell you they are $20,000 up to $80,000 dollar systems. There are no way to jam them. Weather is NOT a factor unless lightning strikes and the power goes out. Someone is in control of them at all times. The only way to place something in the headsets is if someone put it there. This isn’t like years ago when they were run on am/fm signals. The band range is out of the way of everything else in the stadium. They make sure of that. It would be very easy for the person who has control of the system to screw with it. They should talk to that person. Not that it really matters. It wasn’t on offense that the Steelers sucked. The defense couldn’t cover the TE. I don’t think that’s the headcom’s fault.

  121. Anyone who has played guitar long enough has, at some point, picked up a radio station through their pickups and heard it coming out of their amp. This happens because un-shielded wiring can act like an antenna and pick up nearby radio frequencies.

    Is it any wonder that an organization (NFL) that claimed it “wouldn’t be economically feasible” to install end-zone cameras provides teams with cheap headsets that regularly pick up an insanely strong radio broadcast coming from literally across the street?

    Nope, probably Ernie Adams hiding in an underground bunker, using The Raspberry (Only one team would dare use the raspberry!)

    I would be upset at all the idiocy if seeing Steelers fans absolutely losing their freaking minds over this didn’t bring me tears of joy.

  122. yep… and they had nothing to do with deflating the footballs, taping the Rams practices… yep nothing but innocents… clean as a preachers sheets… Belicheat and Brady for sainthood.

    Everyone drink the kool-aid, put a hood over your face and go lay down in bed… the space ships will be here soon… heaven’s gate.

    Total BS…

  123. voddyt says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:45 PM
    Funny the NFL statement doesn’t mention the Pats had headset problems, too.

    lost in all this is it was a problem for the Pats the whole game(periodically) while it was only a prob for the Steelers early on.

    But I want to say kudos to the Steelers fans here that have admitted they just lost fairly.

  124. Just a way for Tomlin to divert attention away from his crappy team play. The Pats headsets weren’t working properly either. Stop whining, Tomlin! Worry about fielding a team that can play Defense!

  125. Do you patriots fans live on every sports site now trying to do full on damage control? guess what? nobody’s going to care if patriot fans say their team isn’t cheating. no one expects you to be objective. newsflash, everyone outside the delusional bubble knows that your team cheats.

  126. You want to know why the NFL’s “explanation” is bunk? Let’s get all Ideal Gas Law here and explore the schematics of modern-day communications equipment.

    The NFL is proud to boast about its 268 million military-grade encryption coded digital network system used to secure communication channels. But how does a supposedly deciphered audio intrusion entered what is an encrypted, digital system? The power and grounding issues the NFL blames for the problem should and could not exist in an “all-digital system.” A signal intrusion due to grounding or electrical problems could, by definition, only exist with analog audio.

    Got that, junior telco engineers? In other words, it is technically IMPOSSIBLE for this mess-up to have occurred as the league explained it. Cover-up exposed. Patriots subterfuge exposed.

    Remember, the Patriots are the team investigated in the past for guess what… messing around with radio frequencies. Remember this oldie but goodie:

    “The league also was reviewing a possible violation into the number of radio frequencies the Patriots were using during Sunday’s game, sources said. The team did not have a satisfactory explanation when asked about possible irregularities in its communication setup during the game.”

    Apparently no satisfactory answer for what went on last Thursday night, either.

  127. Thank goodness the 0-1 steelers have a long week to prepare for the next game since they’ve wasted three days whining about those headsets. Grow up already. LOL.

  128. kindbass says:
    Sep 12, 2015 12:16 AM
    Anyone who has played guitar long enough has, at some point, picked up a radio station through their pickups and heard it coming out of their amp. This happens because un-shielded wiring can act like an antenna and pick up nearby radio frequencies.

    Is it any wonder that an organization (NFL) that claimed it “wouldn’t be economically feasible” to install end-zone cameras provides teams with cheap headsets that regularly pick up an insanely strong radio broadcast coming from literally across the street?

    Nope, probably Ernie Adams hiding in an underground bunker, using The Raspberry (Only one team would dare use the raspberry!)

    I would be upset at all the idiocy if seeing Steelers fans absolutely losing their freaking minds over this didn’t bring me tears of joy.
    ————————————————

    Congratulations dude you win the “smh post of the day.” Brilliant job, Clapton, of comparing your $89 Guitar Center special with a multi-million dollar state of the art telco system. Tell me, does your secondhand Strat also feature 268 million different military-grade encryption codes protecting the frequencies from outside interference like an angry bouncer outside the hottest club in town? And does it have the magical ability to turn those intruding broadcasts off and on whenever say, an NFL official is approaching your sideline?

    And then, after you make such a ridiculous comparison you have the nerve to get all snarky and joke about others for being all goofy and paranoid? Hey, it’s not our fault Ernie created the shadowy rep he so enjoys.

    Then we have this guy:

    thundersnacker says:
    Sep 11, 2015 11:12 PM
    There was a large storm over the stadium most of the game. Large storms contain enough electrical disruption (lightning) to mess with RF. Rain can also absorb or scatter RF, causing intermittent interference. Or, if you don’t want to take my word for it, ask someone with a dish what happens to their service when there is a storm. Also, try listening to the radio during a big storm. Science is a real challenge for some of you people, isn’t it.
    ———————————————

    You might want to read “shroudedofsecrecy”‘s comments above, because apparently YOU’RE the one who needs some educating. As he explains, the reasons for the glitch the league claims like weather and grounding AREN’T POSSIBLE with a digitally-based system. That was the whole reason for replacing the old analog set-up, which WAS susceptible to outside interference especially in bad weather. THE NFL SPENT MILLIONS OVERHAULING ITS IN-STADIUM COMMUNICATIONS TO AVOID EXACTLY THE PROBLEMS IT’S CLAIMING HAPPENED ON THURSDAY.

    That’s why comparing the stadium system to the satellite dish Joe Schmoe puts on his roof, or better yet guitars, is so laughable. “Gee Vern, this happened to my ol’ transistor radio too, started picking up voices.” What’s next, someone talking about how their dental fillings once picked up AM radio, so that proves the league is right?

    Again, the NFL’s explanation, as anyone who knows better, is just not electronically possible.
    The new system is not susceptible to rain or RF scattering as you claim. Period.

  129. Deb says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:27 PM

    Agree wholeheartedly with kevpft on this–and as a diehard Steelers fan, it has been my takeaway on the game. That’s why I’m so annoyed with Tomlin and the Steelers organization for focusing attention on something as silly as headset issues. When one team’s headset malfunctions, both teams’ headsets are turned off. The cause is irrelevant, both teams’ headsets are turned off.
    ——————————————–

    Except, Deb, that this just isn’t true. The whole point of the Steelers complaint is that their headsets would magically start working again whenever the league official approached the Patriots sideline — thus they didn’t have to turn theirs off.

    That’s why I have to laugh at any Pats fan who can’t see what a huge advantage the Pats enjoyed the first half. Gimme a break.

  130. The NFL is proud to boast about its 268 million military-grade encryption coded digital network system used to secure communication channels. But how does a supposedly deciphered audio intrusion entered what is an encrypted, digital system? The power and grounding issues the NFL blames for the problem should and could not exist in an “all-digital system.” A signal intrusion due to grounding or electrical problems could, by definition, only exist with analog audio.
    ===
    It’s not all digital. The transmission is digital. Even a system that uses digital transmission of an encrypted audio stream is going to have analog mic wires somewhere.

  131. And again: jamming of a digitally encrypted signal wouldn’t fail like this. It would cutout and you’d get static. You wouldn’t get a clear overlaid message or audio channel. This was either a man-in-the-middle attack with compromised keys, or else there was bleed over in the analog portions of the system. And yes: there are analog portions of the system.

  132. heard smasonsmith says:
    Sep 12, 2015 6:22 PM
    ===
    It’s not all digital. The transmission is digital. Even a system that uses digital transmission of an encrypted audio stream is going to have analog mic wires somewhere.
    ————————————————-

    Sorry, a random ‘log mic here and there isn’t going to send the whole shebang haywire regardless of weather — which is what the NFL (incorrectly) claims. Read shroudedofsecrecy’s comments for more on that. I don’t care if it’s Noah’s flood, that’s no good logical rationale for such a bizarre technical breakdown.

    Furthermore, this isn’t just a matter of interference, this is a matter of synchronization. How do you explain the fact that the Pats radio broadcasts stopped precisely at the moment the league official would step over to the Patriots sideline to tell them they too had to cut off their sets? Was that because of some random analog mic affected by weather? Seriously. As “shroud” correctly points out, it’s not hard to mess with the equipment when you’re in control.

    Sorry but the league’s explanation contradicts itself technologically. It doesn’t hold up. What’s more, the Patriots have been investigated in the past for playing games with frequencies, so they’ve established a precedence for suspicion.

    It’s funny. For six months Pats fans have been telling us what lying snakes Goodell and the league are. Now of a sudden they’re big truth-tellers. Pats fans even went as far as to accuse the league of covering up in the Brady matter. But now? Oh now the idea that the league is covering is ridiculous… when it benefits the Patriots.

  133. smasonsmith says:
    Sep 12, 2015 6:28 PM
    And again: jamming of a digitally encrypted signal wouldn’t fail like this. It would cutout and you’d get static. You wouldn’t get a clear overlaid message or audio channel. This was either a man-in-the-middle attack with compromised keys, or else there was bleed over in the analog portions of the system. And yes: there are analog portions of the system.
    ————————————————–

    And again, this still wouldn’t account for the SYNCHRONIZATION of the intruding broadcasts. Which would rule out the bleed over angle.

    I’m not sure people understand the true nature of the Steelers’ complaint. They’re not merely complaining about dysfunctional headphones, they’re reporting the bizarre tendency of the Patriots radio broadcasts to stop whenever the league official would approach the Patriots sideline. Do you see the difference? Now, what weather or analog-mic related issue accounts for something like that?

    That’s why your compromised keys idea makes more sense than the drivel the league is trying to sell us. Because at least that accounts for the possibility of human-related, not weather-related, cause behind all this.

  134. phillyphil005 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:47 PM
    There is a video that should be viral soon of Brady giving a signal at the 10 sec mark on the play clock, and it goes back to 25 on his command. He snaps at 1 sec left and pass gets batted down by Timmons. 50 seconds between plays, and blatant cheating.

    It’s time to blow the lid off of this
    ———-

    the clock reset to 25 and Brady snapped at at 1 second? What did he do during all this free time?

    dont leave me hangin bro!

  135. smasonsmith,

    One more question for you, as you seem to actually know what you’re talking about, unlike these other shmoes. Assuming what you’ve said is true, and even allowing for the weather explanation, why is it that only the Steelers headsets were affected?

    Wouldn’t the weather and its concomitant interference affect the ENTIRE system, as a whole?

    Just curious for your insights. Thanks.

  136. By the way, this is another subject, but I have this bridge that crosses over the Mississippi river that I could let you have a real cheap price, but due to illness in the family I can only accept cash.

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