Teams should tread lightly when complaining about other teams

AP

In the aftermath of Thursday night’s opener, it was open season for the Steelers against the Patriots, with criticism of Pittsburgh’s inexplicable failure to cover tight end Rob Gronkowski (apparently, the secret sauce was to not put a man on him at all in the hopes of confusing Tom Brady) replaced by criticism of the coach-to-coach system at Gillette Stadium.

Coach Mike Tomlin, who while pacing the field during pregame warmups seemed ready to rumble, was clearly angry after the game when talking about the problems with the communications system. While he tried to measure his words carefully, the team’s website didn’t, painting a picture of coincidental outages and restorations as league officials explored the situation.

“This is the kind of stuff that happens to the visiting team in Gillette Stadium all the time,” the Steelers’ website declared.

Here’s the problem with Pittsburgh’s approach: The NFL’s Constitution and Bylaws prohibit teams from airing out dirty laundry regarding other teams. Specifically, Article IX, Section 9.1(C)(4) provides that teams may not “[p]ublicly criticize any member club or its management, personnel, employees, or coaches and/or any football official employed by the League. All complaints or criticism in respect to the foregoing shall be made to the Commissioner only and shall not be publicized directly or indirectly.”

The league office probably wants all of this to go away quickly, and publicly chasing the Steelers for publicly chastising the Patriots serves only to prolong the story.

Still, the league would be wise at a minimum to circulate a memo reminding all teams of Section 9.1(C)(4). Otherwise, every coach who loses to the Patriots this year will be tempted to blame the outcome not on something the coach or his team failed to do but on something the Patriots supposedly did that violated the rules.

111 responses to “Teams should tread lightly when complaining about other teams

  1. Sticking a LB on Gronkowski has literally never worked yet when they bothered to cover him it was with a guy he was going to run past no problem.

    Then you had the inexplicable play selection with the Steelers poised to score yet Haley called an inside fullback draw on 3rd and 8. I know they scored the garbage time TD late and even though they were only down 2 scores it never felt like Pitt was in it.

  2. So the headphones problem was electrical? So Belichick being a previous cheater and this apparently happening to many teams turns out to be electrical. So even though it stopped when nfl officials were on the sideline it just magically happened as soon as they left? That’s just a concidence then huh? Yeah ok.

  3. Yeah, cause the league always ‘handles’ this stuff. Remember when they chastised the Ravens when Harbaugh said the Pats cheated because he couldn’t handle the legal plays? Remember when they went after the Colts for not only spreading rumors that the Pats deflated balls; Oh and there was the Texan that said we must have spied or scouted them because we knew all there plays (causing them to lose their 10th game in a row — yes 10 games in a row) and of course just today the owner of the Eagles saying he has absolutely no facts to back this up but he believes the Pats cheated during SB XXXIX,……..and I’m sure the league will do exactly the same to Tomlin as they did to all those other teams…..help them to spread the lies.

    Fire Goodell!!!!

  4. Apparently when you actually break the rules the NFL does nothing. They only serve to hunt for witches in NE.

  5. Simple Tomlin didnt have his team prepared, and he knew his comment will overshadow the piss poor performance by his team. No worries, he can go lick his wounds and come back better prepared.

  6. Woa woa woa the steelers broke the rules so why aren’t they getting punished. Oh I forgot cause there the steelers not the patriots.

  7. Section 9.1(C)(4) – “Only the Commissioner can engage in baseless slander against Teams and Players.”

  8. jchipwood says:
    Sep 12, 2015 6:38 PM
    So the headphones problem was electrical? So Belichick being a previous cheater and this apparently happening to many teams turns out to be electrical. So even though it stopped when nfl officials were on the sideline it just magically happened as soon as they left? That’s just a concidence then huh? Yeah ok.

    —————-
    Except that’s not what happened. The NFL officials went over once, thought it was fixed, it happened for a very short time, was fixed again for good…..a very simple ground fault can cause frequency interference….that won’t matter I’m sure, neither will the fact that it happened to NE also. Hey and don’t forget Ben. In all his years of playing he never saw a team shift their defensive line….it’s an unwritten rule……except they do it ALL the time and it’s absolutely legal…apparently Ben wasn’t paying attention.

  9. Tomlin is the most overrated coach in the NFL. His act is going to wear thin. Hes all show and no substance.

    Hes a crybaby because now he looks like a clown, because like his players said they have a great plan to stop Gronk, and Gronk absolutely destroyed their F.

    So he cried like a little baby blaming the headsets.

  10. Pat’s homerism aside, the Steelers were in that game. The Steelers beat themselves at the 1 yard line, with a 5 yard penalty, 2 missed field goals, and failure to recover a fumble at the Pat’s 1 yard line.

    This, in spite of failing to get pressure on Brady, except for one sack. 450 yards of Offense against the Pat’s Defense…Pat’s couldn’t stop the run game all night…All this from a very young team, in a road game. That’s was a heads up game for the Pat’s, as the Pat’s can’t expect other teams to beat themselves that way.

    Re the ratting out the league…The Pat’s did it more than once during the off season….and far as I know they’ve not received any back lash from the league.

  11. jchipwood says:
    Sep 12, 2015 6:38 PM
    So the headphones problem was electrical? So Belichick being a previous cheater and this apparently happening to many teams turns out to be electrical. So even though it stopped when nfl officials were on the sideline it just magically happened as soon as they left? That’s just a concidence then huh? Yeah ok.
    ____________________________________
    So says an anonymous source so lacking in credibility that even ESPN would not run with it. There are facts and there are rumors. And then there are credible rumors and ridiculous rumors. This falls squarely in the ridiculous unsubstantiated rumor category…With a secondary heading under “Sour Grapes.”

  12. I ran into Tomlin at a bar last night. It was a “whine” bar. Nothing was tasting very good, the only vintage they had was made with sour grapes.

  13. Tomlin is the most overrated coach in the NFL. His act is going to wear thin. Hes all show and no substance.

    Hes a crybaby because now he looks like a clown, because like his players said they have a great plan to stop Gronk, and Gronk absolutely destroyed their F.

    So he cried like a little baby blaming the headsets.

    Tomlin is a crybaby? After nine months listening to you whine about Shady Brady you call him a crybaby……get outta here you idiot!

  14. ..
    Tomlin’s whining took the emphasis off his sorry game management. For example :

    With three minutes left in the game and the Steelers trailing 28-14, the Patriots received a holding penalty on a touchbacked punt. Instead of making the Patriots resnap in a driving rain and rekick to the ever dangerous Antonio Brown, TOMLIN TOOK THE TEN YARDS!

    He moved the ball from his own 20 to his own 30 at a time when the Pats DBs were conceding yards by playing 6-7 yards off the line of scrimmage.
    .

  15. Tomlin owes apologies. He knew how that would play and did it anyway. It’s not as outrageous as him tripping the Ravens player with the ball, but it’s worse in many ways because it’s premeditated and mean. Learn how to lose with class.

  16. Hey Chipwood, you had headphones on and know for a fact went it went on and off? I doubt it. What ya think they had the wizard of Oz behind a curtain turning the knobs, bringing in 98.5 radio to the Steelers. Get a brain!

  17. We’ve all seen and heard a lot of speculation about the Pats supposedly cheating but I’ve never seen Belichick step onto the field of play to trip an opponent. We all KNOW Tomlin is a cheating turd by way of indisputable visual evidence.

  18. A anonymous source “memo” from the NFLESPN office would certainly get ahead of any possible misinformation regarding protocol guidelines as to adhering to the strict bylaws would be certain that all member parties are assured to be advised!

  19. Tomlin should be more pissed off about:

    Top running back suspended for weed

    Top receiver suspended for weed

    This years 4th round draft pick didnt even make the team, at a defensive position of desperate need at that.

    For the second time All Star Center is out most of the year with an injury caused by a player ON THE SAME TEAM.

    Dri Archer cannot run past or be touched by one defensive player without falling down.

    A coach was involved in an altercation with a Pats fan during the game.

    I could go on and on but …………..signed an aggravated Steeler Fan.

  20. I’m a life-long Steelers fan. I will forever be a Steelers fan. My loyalty to the team is not dependent on winning SBs (but that doesn’t hurt).

    In my 35+ years I’ve seen the *Pats go from The North Cleveland Browns to the East Frisco Niners.

    The sportsman in me is happy for those who stuck with the *Pats through the bad times and were rewarded with great success. As a Steelers fan I can relate. I don’t begrudge the real fans their joy of the successful years they’ve had.

    BUT…..those same fans, not so long ago, were very happy to point sand laugh and scream “where there’s smoke there’s fire!!!!!” at a certain Steeler , endlessly trying to belittle a man based on rumor, circumstance and second- and third-hand speculation. They seemed to want to destroy a human being over a “sport”. And all the while they giggled and smirked and said “hey- where there’s smoke there’s fire!!!!!!!!!!!!”.

    Well, now the table has turned a bit and those same fans who were so glad to assert the “smoke+ fire” theorem are jumping up and down, rhetorically speaking, and waving their arms shouting “but it’s only rumor! There’s NO proof! It’s.a.witch.hunt.”.

    The Steelers were beaten by a better team Thursday night- that’s a fact. It’s a the memory of that will be obscured, over time, by the smoke of doubt*.

  21. So even though it stopped when nfl officials were on the sideline it just magically happened as soon as they left? ……………………..I find this claim by the Steelers laughable. It shows that Belichick is in their heads.

  22. eleventyeight says:
    Sep 12, 2015 7:11 PM

    I’m a life-long Steelers fan. I will forever be a Steelers fan. My loyalty to the team is not dependent on winning SBs (but that doesn’t hurt).

    In my 35+ years I’ve seen the *Pats go from The North Cleveland Browns to the East Frisco Niners.

    ———————

    @eleventyeight

    Yikes! The irony of a Steelers fan referring the the Pats with an asterisk (“Pats*”) is too strong.

    If you want to be a petty, bitter loser, then I can play that game too:

    I think you’re forgetting that time in the 70s when your Steelers* won 4 championships while loaded to the max on steroids/PEDs. Why don’t I throw another asterisks next to that 2005 SuperBowl win as well, since Cowher himself admitted to filming and stealing signals as a coach.

  23. These stories are getting old. How about something game related? All the stars in the NFL and we are talking about soap opera stories. C’mon this is a man’s game.

  24. Complaining about headset problems is different than blaming the Pats for them or blaming the headset problems for the loss. Tomlin never accused anyone of anything. He said that headset problems are a recurring theme in New England. That’s a statement of fact. Regardless of what causes the problems, he’s entitled to be angry that they consistently happen. And the league should see to it that the problems stop.

  25. “Still, the league would be wise at a minimum to circulate a memo”

    —–

    ahahahahahahaahahahahaahahaahahahaahahaahahaahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahaaha…

    HA!

    Just think if the NFL could actually think like that, deflategate would never have happened.

    Oh, the irony of asking for the NFL to think about… well… anything.

  26. Crybaby Tomlin needs to stop devoting a fourth day to whining and get his 0-1 Steelers prepared to face their next beat down. Steeler fans will have to console themselves with making fun of opposing teams’ players. It’s all they have left. LOL.

  27. Look, that defense was terrible in the preseason and was terrible against the Pats.

    They changed their defense and they have a bunch of new players, however, they should have been prepared better than they were. Case in point with Gronkowski; headset issues or not, it doesn’t take headsets to recognize the biggest offense threat on the field isn’t covered.

    Tomlin has his job cut out for himself and should be spending more time and effort on preparing his team than whining about headsets

  28. Teams should tread lightly because I’m willing to bet that Belichick has dirt on every team and coach in the NFL. He’s been his typical quiet so far…

  29. The Ravens, Colts, and Steelers should all have lost draft choices but instead the NFL went after a player (Brady), spending $20 MM to come up with nothing.

    Thankfully, Brady fined each team, with a loss, putting up monster games against all three.

  30. The game is about the players. The NFL, the media and Tomlin don’t see to get that but Belichick does.

    All we hear from the NFL, the media and Tomlin is bs. Belichick keeps the focus on the players, Brady, Gronk, Roethlisberger, Brown and every other player who suited up.

    Let’s read some stories about the actual play of the players on the field of play.

  31. Two backup centers played well. Edelman stepped up big on third down. DeAngelo Williams and Dion Lewis proved to be huge pickups, both playing excellent. Will Allen and Tarell Brown made big plays. Josh Scobee may have saved his job after two early missed field goals. Both teams look to have explosive offenses but need to sure up their defensive play.

  32. I find Mike Tomlin’s anger and holier than though attitude quite interesting. Isn’t this the same coach who tried to trip an opposing teams runner while standing on the sideline? Work on having your team better prepared instead of making excuses! It’s a more professional approach!😄

  33. stburke40 says:
    Sep 12, 2015 6:38 PM
    Yeah, cause the league always ‘handles’ this stuff. Remember when they chastised the Ravens when Harbaugh said the Pats cheated because he couldn’t handle the legal plays? Remember when they went after the Colts for not only spreading rumors that the Pats deflated balls; Oh and there was the Texan that said we must have spied or scouted them because we knew all there plays (causing them to lose their 10th game in a row — yes 10 games in a row) and of course just today the owner of the Eagles saying he has absolutely no facts to back this up but he believes the Pats cheated during SB XXXIX,……..and I’m sure the league will do exactly the same to Tomlin as they did to all those other teams…..help them to spread the lies.
    ——————-

    I always loved the Texan one. That was the same game when JJ Watt stopped Ridley for no gain. And Mutombo’ed him. Stood there wagging his finger and telling Ridley not to go through the middle anymore. Of course, it was the end of the 3rd quarter and the score was 35-7 Pats. Way to keep them honest, JJ.

    And, this one came out this week as well. In 2010 or so, Mike Martz complained about the communications at Gillette during a game in about 2006. He seems to have forgotten that at the time, the team he was coaching (I can’t remember which one at that point) was 2-9 and on their way to a 3-13 season. But sure, you know, communications.

  34. Tomlin’s middle name is Pettaway. I only know this because I looked it up to see if it was Harbaugh. Doesn’t it seem like it should Harbaugh?

  35. The Patriots have been caught red handed in two cheating scandals within 7 years. It is in the NFL books, Spygate and Deflategate. Brady nor the Patriots will ever be cleared in Deflategate. It appears to me the NFL has had so many complaints about the Patriots cheating that the commissioner could no longer ignore it. And neither can true NFL fans.

  36. eleventyeight says:
    Sep 12, 2015 7:11 PM
    I’m a life-long Steelers fan. I will forever be a Steelers fan. My loyalty to the team is not dependent on winning SBs (but that doesn’t hurt).

    In my 35+ years I’ve seen the *Pats go from The North Cleveland Browns to the East Frisco Niners.

    The sportsman in me is happy for those who stuck with the *Pats through the bad times and were rewarded with great success. As a Steelers fan I can relate. I don’t begrudge the real fans their joy of the successful years they’ve had.

    BUT…..those same fans, not so long ago, were very happy to point sand laugh and scream “where there’s smoke there’s fire!!!!!” at a certain Steeler , endlessly trying to belittle a man based on rumor, circumstance and second- and third-hand speculation. They seemed to want to destroy a human being over a “sport”. And all the while they giggled and smirked and said “hey- where there’s smoke there’s fire!!!!!!!!!!!!”.

    Well, now the table has turned a bit and those same fans who were so glad to assert the “smoke+ fire” theorem are jumping up and down, rhetorically speaking, and waving their arms shouting “but it’s only rumor! There’s NO proof! It’s.a.witch.hunt.”.

    The Steelers were beaten by a better team Thursday night- that’s a fact. It’s a the memory of that will be obscured, over time, by the smoke of doubt*.
    ————————

    Wow. You are actually trying to equate a woman saying she was raped by Ben with several witnesses who describe her being taken to a locked area that a bodyguard wouldn’t let them have access to as well as a prosecutor saying “We can’t prove it, but he did it.” to being accused of letting air out of footballs while furnishing no witnesses or proof.

    That, folks, is how you apologist!

  37. Spygate: Red handed yes, cheating, not so much. Most of it legal other than camera placement. It was and is still legal to tape the opposition’s sidelines. Read the rulebook. Not arguable.
    Deflategate: Never happened. Nothing to be caught red handed at, since the balls were not deflated.
    Everything else: Nebulous and unsubstantiated.

  38. limakey, you have the credibility of a Holocaust denier who doesn’t believe in climate change or evolution. But at least you’re consistent.

  39. Cheating is the ultimate offense a team or player can commit in any sport. Therefore competition and the league should refrain from making assumptions that lead to a faulty conclusion, which both the Steelers and the NFL are guilty of in separate circumstances. The mere accusation of cheating tarnishes the image of the entire league, and so suggesting that your opponent cheated should carry a stiff penalty. You just cannot allow a coach or player to walk up to a mic and make unfettered statements without any evidence, as it essentially amounts to defamation. If they really want to “protect the shield”, accusations of cheating should be taken seriously in private but should not be punished without proper evidence.

  40. Tomlin is a much better talker than a coach.
    Mikey plays checkers, Belichick cheats at chess.

    For the Cheaties troll that’s talking about Ben being a rapist I suggest you read the facts before you say anything else as stupid as what you said. The DA said he didn’t have proof….don’t let the facts trip you up Forrest….dumb is as dumb does.

  41. If you have a chance, I recommend the video floating around the internet on highlights from Dion Lewis’ career at Pitt. If you are a Pats fan you will see why Brady expects him to be a cult hero in New England. The guy not only has moves and breakaway speed, he bounces off tacklers and stays on his feet.

  42. think you’re forgetting that time in the 70s when your Steelers* won 4 championships while loaded to the max on steroids/PEDs. Why don’t I throw another asterisks next to that 2005 SuperBowl win as well, since Cowher himself admitted to filming and stealing signals as a coach.

    A couple of things sonny. You weren’t alive in the 70’s and nothing about the common use of steroids back then. So are you saying that everyone is cheating now and the Pats are just the best cheaters? I guess you like to rewrite history because filming wasn’t illegal when Cowher did it Einstein. Don’t try to stain other teams with the cheater label the Patsies own…..it won’t work.

  43. You know, Mike, whining after a loss is not putting your best forward in terms of leadership. Giving your team an excuse for not doing their job could really trip them up further down the field…

  44. I don’t really care about up or down votes but who votes down a video about Dion Lewis?

    He’s 5′ 8″ and 195 lbs. Doesn’t everybody root for a guy like that who has been out of football for the better part of two years and is making a comeback?

  45. The league wants it to go away?!! Seriously?

    If that was the case they wouldn’t have their on-aid commentators bring it up every 3 seconds.

    Last year, if they didn’t want the ray rice attention… They wouldn’t have their commentators bring that up every week(even during games the Ravens weren’t playing in!)

    The NFL wants all the attention it can get. Whatever keeps people talking about them. Doesn’t matter if it’s deemed bad or not. Any attention is what they want.

  46. skawh says:
    Sep 12, 2015 6:48 PM

    Pat’s homerism aside, the Steelers were in that game. The Steelers beat themselves at the 1 yard line, with a 5 yard penalty, 2 missed field goals, and failure to recover a fumble at the Pat’s 1 yard line.

    This, in spite of failing to get pressure on Brady, except for one sack. 450 yards of Offense against the Pat’s Defense…Pat’s couldn’t stop the run game all night…All this from a very young team, in a road game. That’s was a heads up game for the Pat’s, as the Pat’s can’t expect other teams to beat themselves that way.

    Re the ratting out the league…The Pat’s did it more than once during the off season….and far as I know they’ve not received any back lash from the league
    ——
    let me start by saying the pats have received plenty of lashes.

    I agree about the game. I was worried that Steelers would stop screwing up and win. I didn’t relax until the interception. Pats got breaks on 2 missed fg, foot on the line. Pats just played better that night in more areas. 1st game means nada.

  47. watermelon1 says:
    Sep 12, 2015 9:13 PM

    The league wants it to go away?!! Seriously?

    If that was the case they wouldn’t have their on-aid commentators bring it up every 3 seconds.

    Last year, if they didn’t want the ray rice attention… They wouldn’t have their commentators bring that up every week(even during games the Ravens weren’t playing in!)

    The NFL wants all the attention it can get. Whatever keeps people talking about them. Doesn’t matter if it’s deemed bad or not. Any attention is what they want

    yup

  48. pleasestopthesnow says:
    Sep 12, 2015 6:47 PM
    Tomlin is the most overrated coach in the NFL. His act is going to wear thin. Hes all show and no substance.

    Hes a crybaby because now he looks like a clown, because like his players said they have a great plan to stop Gronk, and Gronk absolutely destroyed their F.

    So he cried like a little baby blaming the headsets.
    ———————————————-

    Yes, after throwing the biggest crying whining tantrum in the history of sports fans, Patriot fans now have the nerve to call Tomlin a crybaby. Hey, I guess you should know, you’re the experts on boo-hooing like little babies.

    And the Pats fan hypocrisy train rolls on…

    I guess this ruins your little “Brady was innocent the NFL is just out to stop us because we win so much” humblebrag narrative you’ve been clinging to. If the league were really out to get you, they wouldn’t be jumping up so fast to declare your total innocence in the joke of the headset situation that happened the other night, now, would they? No, they’d be using that one to bust on you too. Instead of giving us all the “nothing to see here folks move right along” line.

    As for the “dirty laundry” thing how about adding Kraft’s name to the list of guys who’ve gotten away with trashing the league in public?

  49. So I guess when Kraft LITERALLY sheds tears in public over the way poor poor widdle Tommy Brady has been treated (boo hoo hoo!) that’s “inspired passion,” but when Tomlin complains about the fact he can’t get a basic service expected from a professional sports franchise in their own stadium, that’s “crying”?

    The double standards employed by Patriots fans are amazing. Just like how they’ve spent the last 6 months calling the league and Goodell a bunch of liars, but now suddenly we’re supposed to take their “Patriots were blameless, really!” line as gospel truth. Which is it Pats fans? If they’re liars, then they’re lying about the headset thing too. You can’t have it both ways.

    The NFL let you off big time for Headsetgate. Don’t ever give me that “they’re out to get us” line again.

  50. Well, I’ll log in and post one more time, but if my post disappears an hour later, like the last dozen times, I give up.

    Enough with treading lightly! If the NFL team owners were doing their job, none of this would be happening. They have failed to lead. To allow 31 team’s resentments fester to this point, is a complete and utter fail. They should have long ago got everyone in a big conference room and not let anyone out until it was resolved.

    And what has the NFL front office been doing about these accusations, nothing? Teams should not abide by the bylaws of not speaking out, when the NFL front office is doing nothing behind closed doors.

    I’m a Patriots fan, and I say…have at it. Speak out all you want. But don’t’ come at the team with a fist full of accusations and rumors and innuendos and nothing else, because it will get you no where. And have some courage and put a name and a face to these accusations. No Patriot fan should be expected to accept accusations that are unfounded and have no basis.

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    ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Sep 12, 2015 9:31 PM

    So I guess when Kraft LITERALLY sheds tears in public over the way poor poor widdle Tommy Brady has been treated (boo hoo hoo!) that’s “inspired passion,” but when Tomlin complains about the fact he can’t get a basic service expected from a professional sports franchise in their own stadium, that’s “crying”?

    The double standards employed by Patriots fans are amazing. Just like how they’ve spent the last 6 months calling the league and Goodell a bunch of liars, but now suddenly we’re supposed to take their “Patriots were blameless, really!” line as gospel truth. Which is it Pats fans? If they’re liars, then they’re lying about the headset thing too. You can’t have it both ways.

    The NFL let you off big time for Headsetgate. Don’t ever give me that “they’re out to get us” line again


    never mind headsetgate, I want idiotgate to be over but it won’t go away

  52. For the Cheaties troll that’s talking about Ben being a rapist I suggest you read the facts before you say anything else as stupid as what you said. The DA said he didn’t have proof
    ———————————————————-
    The DA couldn’t prosecute the case because it was a ‘he said, she said’ unwinnable case, where the main witness, the girl who’s life was probably ruined(she ended up dropping out of college) was drunk at the time. She also refused to testify vs ‘big ben’s’ army of lawyers. The DA clearly knew what was up. His hands were tied. Talk about ‘where there’s smoke…’. Anyone defending BB should be as ashamed as he should be.

  53. Nearly everyone outside of the Boston metropolitan area can’t stand the pats, we should be able to pile on any way we see fit to feel better about ourselves. This is America

  54. Brilliant comeback, mtb2253… so I’ll ask one more time then.

    OK Pats fans, if Deflategate really WERE about what you claim, that “the league is freaked out that we’re ruining their precious parity by winning all the time so they make stuff up to bust us” then why would they rush to DEFEND you in the wake of the Headset goof scandal? I mean, if that were true, and they would stop at nothing to penalize you, wouldn’t this be the PERFECT opportunity to pile on more? Instead of what they did, which was just the OPPOSITE.

    It doesn’t fit, does it. Here’s the PERFECT revenge opportunity for Roger, especially after the way you taunted him on national TV. Instead he rides to the rescue, basically telling us all that you’re innocent as newborn babes!

    It doesn’t fit because it NEVER fit. This is the same commissioner who destroyed the Spygate tapes and went soft on Belichick, and now you want us to believe “he’s out to get you.”

    Roger Goodell just proved your 6-month tantrum over Spygate was the biggest most misguided whining in the history of sports fans.

  55. Let’s face it. It’s frustrating to get out coached by Belichick every….single…..time. Back to the drawing board Tomlin. You’re not a good coach.

    The o-line jumping offsides because the defense moved and complaining is hilarious. You learn that in high school, second week of practice.

    Root for the pirates, Pittsburgh fans.

  56. tedmurph says:
    Sep 12, 2015 9:49 PM
    e it was a ‘he said, she said’ unwinnable case, where the main witness, the girl who’s life was probably ruined(she ended up dropping out of college) was drunk at the time. She also refused to testify vs ‘big ben’s’ army of lawyers. The DA clearly knew what was up. His hands were tied. Talk about ‘where there’s smoke…’. Anyone defending BB should be as ashamed as he should be.
    ———————————————

    The DNA evidenced PROVED that the act claimed by the accuser was physically impossible. It wasn’t about some phantom “army of lawyers.” Obviously you haven’t read the court documents, but like the typical Pats fan who whines about how uninformed the “haters” of Tom Brady are with Deflategate, you plow ahead full speed doing the same thing you accuse them of.

    The DA said no such thing about “tied hands” like you claim. He talked about the difference between bad behavior and an actual crime, and how there wasn’t a crime committed in this case, so he couldn’t prosecute. He said it was his job to prosecute CRIMES not MORALS. It was Roethlisbeger’s INNOCENCE as proven in the DNA lab that “tied his hands.” Wrong again, chum.

    The guy who should be ASHAMED of himself is you, not only for this slander, but for sheer unmitigated hypocrisy. I only hope Ben’s “lawyer army” reads what you wrote and decides to bring a libel suit against you.

  57. The league had to come clean about the headsets because it was obviously not due to to anything the Pats had done. Even the most casual investigation would have shown that. The league had egg on their faces after ‘deflategate’. They also looked foolish with their sponsoring of ESPN’s well timed hit piece on ‘spygate’, which really had no new info, 8 yrs after the fact. They already look like they are blatently out to get the Pats. They couldn’t make it worse.

    By the way, the steelers will be lucky to get 9 wins this yr. Have fun watching the playoffs at home.

  58. Nofoolnodrool says:
    Sep 12, 2015 9:04 PM
    Tomlin is a much better talker than a coach.
    Mikey plays checkers, Belichick cheats at chess.

    For the Cheaties troll that’s talking about Ben being a rapist I suggest you read the facts before you say anything else as stupid as what you said. The DA said he didn’t have proof….don’t let the facts trip you up Forrest….dumb is as dumb does.
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    Ok gonna try this again before it gets deleted. It’s quite ironic that you suggest to the Patriots fan that he reads the facts before making an opinion. Second, it’s “stupid is as stupid does” and I’m guessing that it wasn’t the facts he was tripping on, it was probably Mike Tomlins outstretched leg

  59. Pats cheat so what! It is what helps them win! League does not seem to mind===and their fans, they deserve good Cheats! Quit whining! shine those tarnished trophies.

  60. ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Sep 12, 2015 9:31 PM
    So I guess when Kraft LITERALLY sheds tears in public over the way poor poor widdle Tommy Brady has been treated (boo hoo hoo!) that’s “inspired passion,” but when Tomlin complains about the fact he can’t get a basic service expected from a professional sports franchise in their own stadium, that’s “crying”?

    The double standards employed by Patriots fans are amazing. Just like how they’ve spent the last 6 months calling the league and Goodell a bunch of liars, but now suddenly we’re supposed to take their “Patriots were blameless, really!” line as gospel truth. Which is it Pats fans? If they’re liars, then they’re lying about the headset thing too. You can’t have it both ways.

    The NFL let you off big time for Headsetgate. Don’t ever give me that “they’re out to get us” line again.
    __________

    Just like all the haters have spent the last six months calling Goodell and the league honest and independent, but now suddenly they aren’t in your eyes because they said the Patriots are innocent? Which is it? You can’t have it both ways…

  61. Too bad the NFL didn’t correct the erroneous PSI report they leaked to Mortensen as quickly! The reality was a 0.2 PSI when taking the Ideal Gas Law into account.

  62. What is really telling, not once in the offseason did Billy Bob defend his qb. Why? Because he was knee deep in it too. Only after Judge Berman’s ruling does Billy come from underneath his Momma’s skirt and tries to act tough. What a machismo!

  63. Lifelong Steelers’ fan with a couple of comments:
    1. Mike Tomlin is an embarrassment as a head coach.
    2. The offensive game plan was awful. Please, please, please let Ben call his own plays.
    3. The defense was so ill prepared it wasn’t even funny.
    4. Pittsburgh lost the game more than the Pats won it, however Brady and Gronkowski looked awesome.
    5. The headset issue didn’t cause us to lose the game, however at some point in time, the Patriots organization needs to stop the deceitfulness. They’re good enough to win without out. All they continue to do is tarnish their reputation.

  64. A lack of DNA evidence doesn’t necessarily mean a sexual assault didn’t occur, but it removes potentially key pieces of evidence for a prosecution.

    “Now, medically and legally, this doesn’t mean that rape or another form of assault didn’t take place. But in the absence of DNA, if they did the proper workup, it markedly could weaken what was a case.”

    It wasn’t PROVED that the assault was impossible. Anyone claiming so doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Or, Is wearing a big ben onesie.

  65. To recap: nothing illustrates the point of this article better than the behavior of Patriots fans during Deflategate, posting literally thousands of times here screaming and crying about Goodell and the conspiracy he cooked up to get you. Indeed if anyone should “tread lightly” when complaining about another team’s coach “crying” it’s you, after the way you all acted. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

    As for that supposed “conspiracy to get you because the Patriots win too much” thing, well, again, this would have been the perfect opportunity to complete the job. If you think the NFL could cook up some good stuff with the Wells Report, imagine what they could find in Headsetgate! Tampering with the other guys’ in-game communications would be the final nail in the coffin. Instead Goodell turned around and rushed to put out some excuse for you based on weather (which, if you know anything about digitally-based communications systems is basically a crock).

    The NFL didn’t just rush to call you innocent, it used some technically suspect explanation to do it. If anything Roger bent over backwards to help you out.

    So much for the “they never had anything on Tommy, it was just about our bestest-everest greatness they feared would destroy their precious parity” self-congratulatory nonsense. Goodell was never out to get you. He just had a hiccup. He’s now gone back to normal, covering for you again. Woo hoo!

    The good news is, you can all stop whining now.

  66. So the headphones at DIII schools regularly have no problem but in the best 12 billion football enterprise one specific stadium just can’t get it right. Ok then.

  67. Why does everybody ignore the facts?? The NFL runs the headsets. Team employees never touch the headsets or the board that controls them. Tomlin is an embarrassing little fool. The NFL came out and said succinctly that the Patriots COULDN’T have tampered with anything, because they have no access to the headsets or their control board. Just read a little before you make stupid assertions and assumptions.

  68. lp0320 says:
    Sep 12, 2015 10:38 PM
    Lifelong Steelers’ fan with a couple of comments:
    1. Mike Tomlin is an embarrassment as a head coach.
    2. The offensive game plan was awful. Please, please, please let Ben call his own plays.
    3. The defense was so ill prepared it wasn’t even funny.
    4. Pittsburgh lost the game more than the Pats won it, however Brady and Gronkowski looked awesome.
    5. The headset issue didn’t cause us to lose the game, however at some point in time, the Patriots organization needs to stop the deceitfulness. They’re good enough to win without out. All they continue to do is tarnish their reputation.
    ________________

    5 is more than a couple but that’s not my main point. First of all, a team that doesn’t hold a lead for a single second the entire game can’t lose it more than the other team won it. As for your 5th point… The patriots did not do anything and yes they are good enough to win without it that’s why they win as much as they do

  69. What about all the things the Pathetics put out over their mess with deflategate? Seems like that would be covered also.

  70. iglen31 says:
    Sep 12, 2015 10:29 PM

    Just like all the haters have spent the last six months calling Goodell and the league honest and independent, but now suddenly they aren’t in your eyes because they said the Patriots are innocent? Which is it? You can’t have it both ways…
    ————————————————-

    That’s been my point all along! OK fine, we can play it one of two ways then:

    1. I’ll buy that the weather caused the headsets to act so weird, if you’ll admit Tom Brady DID cheat and deflate as the league accuses.

    –or–

    2. I’ll say Brady didn’t cheat, then you admit the Patriots aren’t “blameless” for the headset malfunctions and it wasn’t about the weather as the league claims.

    So yes… which is it?

  71. Tomlin should take a cue from Belichick and reply, “we’re on to the 49ers. Does anyone have any questions about week 2?” instead of his passive-aggressive complaining.

  72. ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Sep 12, 2015 10:59 PM
    iglen31 says:
    Sep 12, 2015 10:29 PM

    Just like all the haters have spent the last six months calling Goodell and the league honest and independent, but now suddenly they aren’t in your eyes because they said the Patriots are innocent? Which is it? You can’t have it both ways…
    ————————————————-

    That’s been my point all along! OK fine, we can play it one of two ways then:

    1. I’ll buy that the weather caused the headsets to act so weird, if you’ll admit Tom Brady DID cheat and deflate as the league accuses.

    –or–

    2. I’ll say Brady didn’t cheat, then you admit the Patriots aren’t “blameless” for the headset malfunctions and it wasn’t about the weather as the league claims.

    So yes… which is it?

    ———–

    That argument makes no sense. The two things are mutually exclusive. You really need to forget about the stupid headset thing. It would be insanely unlikely that the Patriots would blatantly cheat like that in a way they would obviously be caught with everything else going on in the very first game with the whole world watching. The NFL have explained it and many other coaches have explained it is the same elsewhere. That is credible.

    Believe what you want about Brady, because that at least had something to it, but the headset thing is hooey.

  73. Steelers, as an organization, aren’t blaming anything on the headsets. They are merely answering the questions they are being asked. Are you all really stupid enough to think the Steelers actually blame it all on the headsets..
    Oh oh common sense.. better delete the comment.. as usual, cowards.

    Sad that ESPN has become so much of a better place to go to for news.

  74. gilperreault says:
    Sep 12, 2015 10:44 PM
    So the headphones at DIII schools regularly have no problem but in the best 12 billion football enterprise one specific stadium just can’t get it right. Ok then.

    ———-

    Many coaches came forward and explained it happens everywhere. The NFL is clearly responsible. Sure, you are right that a 12 billion enterprise should be able to make it work, but don’t ignore information like that and spread lies. It’s not right.

  75. hehateme2 says:
    Sep 12, 2015 10:41 PM
    the patriots* defense blows. Looking very weak and easy prey.

    ———-

    Only W’s matter in this leage. In the 2011 season the Patriots were 32nd in pass defense and the Giants were 25th and they met in the Super Bowl.

    Just gotta find a way to win, and the Patriots are 1-0.

  76. jmdanieli says:
    Sep 12, 2015 10:42 PM
    What was deceitful about the headsets, since the Pats’s were not functioning either!

    If the Pats headsets were not functioning, then why didn’t they turn off the Steelers like they did vice versa in the first half ?

  77. Patriots will finish 9-7 unless they cheat there way to more wins. They are not that good.
    ——————————————————
    Said every year.
    And talent wise- physical skill that is usually true-exception 2007 offense.

    What other teams fail to grasp- and other fans- is the Pats are just smarter. They are better prepared.

    Butler knowing that play in the SB (and in the game Thursday).
    McGinest knowing E. James tendencies and Manning’s ‘tell’ so he knew it was a run on 4th and 1.
    Taking a Safety to get the ball back vs. Denver.

    The ineligible receiver. See, it’s not just Bill. Part of what he looks for is smarts. I know people mock Gronk…but that kid’s football smarts are off the charts. And Tommy–that is not physical talent. That is work on a level no other QB in history has put in. There is a reason he will outlast Manning by half a decade.
    I think this is part of the hate/jealousy in the league. There are a ton of tough guys in the league- all the way up to the coaches and the front office. I think they absolutely HATE being beat by the smart guy geek. Maybe like the jocks in your high school, they can’t comprehend being out thought.

    If you think this ends with Bill…nah, he now has 2 coaches that have come up with him over the last decade, the heir apparent. Both smart, one from Football, one not and groomed. Last year they both finally got it.

    Here is a prediction – Huston, also ‘not that good’ are going to ruin a ton of teams Sundays.

  78. Losers make excuses. Just watch more teams will make excuses that the Patriots cheated when they lose to them.

    It is the epitome of poor sportsmanship

  79. The Patriots will beat a lot of teams this year through preparation and hardwork. They do this better than most teams and these excuse making coaches, owners and players should look at themselves in the mirror when they lose.

  80. It wasn’t PROVED that the assault was impossible. Anyone claiming so doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Or, Is wearing a big ben onesie.

    Ah TedMurph, what it did prove was there was no assault so the DA didn’t have enough for a case. Don’t let your tinfoil hat prevent clear brain wave receptions. Funny how,you are trying to divert attention from another case of Cheaties in action.

  81. skawh says:
    Sep 12, 2015 6:48 PM
    Pat’s homerism aside, the Steelers were in that game. The Steelers beat themselves at the 1 yard line, with a 5 yard penalty, 2 missed field goals, and failure to recover a fumble at the Pat’s 1 yard line.

    This, in spite of failing to get pressure on Brady, except for one sack. 450 yards of Offense against the Pat’s Defense…Pat’s couldn’t stop the run game all night…All this from a very young team, in a road game…..

    ==================
    According to SBNation, when it comes to average age of the 53 man roster the Steelers rank 26th (average age 26.57 years) and the Patriots rank 13th (average age 25.95 years).

    I don’t think the “very young team” excuse holds much water.

  82. So the Steelers broke a rule and won’t be punished? There’s a surprise. Yeah, send a memo, and then let like 15 teams break it afterwards and wait for the Pats to say one innocuous thing and then refer back to the memo and fine them some more picks since the plan to destroy them due to their violating the NFLs “parity protocol” over the past 15 years has failed.

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