# Extra point rate down to 94.1%, two-point conversions double

AP

Extra points are down and two-point conversions are up through two weeks of the 2015 season.

Kickers in the NFL are making the new, longer extra points, at a rate of 94.1 percent. That’s by far the lowest success rate in decades: The last time the league-wide success rate was below 95 percent was in 1979. Last year the league-wide success rate was 99.3 percent, and it’s been above 97 percent every year since 1989.

Meanwhile, there have already been seven successful two-point conversion attempts this season. That puts the league on pace to have a total of 56 two-point conversions this season, which would exactly double last season’s total of 28.

So there’s little doubt that the new extra point rule is changing the game, making kicks a little harder and two-point conversions a little more enticing. What remains to be seen is whether any team will radically change its approach and decide to go for two as the default choice after a touchdown. Steelers coach Mike Tomlin appears to be heading in that direction: On Sunday, Tomlin decided to go for two after the Steelers’ first touchdown gave them a 6-0 lead in the first quarter. That’s a move no NFL coach had made since Chip Kelly unsuccessfully tried a two-point conversion trick play after the Eagles’ first touchdown of his coaching career in 2013.

Will Tomlin take the next step and go for two routinely? Will any other coach? If kickers keep missing, some coach might. And that would make games more interesting to watch.

## 33 responses to “Extra point rate down to 94.1%, two-point conversions double”

1. There won’t be anywhere near as many overtimes this year. Which is a bit of a shame.

2. helldog33 says:

2 point conversion excitement >>>>extra point kick excitement

3. thechickenexpress says:

Teams are 8 of 15 (53.3%) on two-point conversion attempts this season so far. The Steelers are skewing those numbers a bit because they have a great offense and are 3 of 3 on these attempts. Still, discounting particular situations, it probably makes sense for teams to go for two more often than note.

Suppose there are 100 conversion attempts. A 94.1% one-point conversion success rate yields 94 points. A 53.3% two-point conversion success rate yields 107 points.

A team’s personnel will dictate whether to go for two more often, but it would seem to be a solid long-term strategy.

4. Thank you Bill Belichick!

Of course, don’t expect the main stream media to give him ANY credit for this idea and the pylon cam concept either….

thats ok. He’s the GOAT and they KNOW THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5. tomthebombtracy says:

Tomlin’s take is that with his offense they can make more than 50% of the 2-point tries. Simple math.

I’m waiting for someone to go for 2 at the end of a game to win it/lose it and with a suspect defense, like the Steelers, it might be better to take your chances at the end than in OT.

6. argh88 says:

Why do you only state the successful 2pt conversions? They didn’t get any easier, therefor the whole of attempts should be looked at.

7. philyeagles5 says:

I still don’t get it. This is supposed to be a good thing?

8. Dumbest rule change ever. This constitutes change just for the sake of change.

9. ….Tomlin has NO confidence in Josh Scobie, and he should’nt. The Steelers should just replace him ,but they’ll give him more rope in week 3 to hang himself because he’s got a strong leg on kickoffs. As far as going for 2pt…teams should start going for them….you get better at when you practice it. The extra point will become a thing of the past in a few years as teams get proficent at converting 2pts.

10. Hopefully these 2-point conversations can bring back the Fullback position back from the dead. The big boys need love too…

11. I believe that going for two at the start of a game (in the 1st quarter) is the best decision a coach can make (unless your team really sucks). I like Tomlin’s decision to go for it back to back. If anything, at least the team is practicing scoring from inside the 5.

12. vegaskid21 says:

I know I’m in the minority, but, I like the change.

13. illnagas says:

meh, missed extra points is about as interesting as those one hand catches made with those new glue gloves.

14. You only need 50% success rate on the two to make it worthwhile.

But, I wouldn’t bring in the goal line offense. Go 4 wide and take those 4 defenders out of the box.

15. You mean the NFL made a rule change that actually BENEFITS the game?

16. “Will Tomlin take the next step and go for two routinely?”

The Josh Scobee factor says yes.

17. I’m pretty sure Mike Tomlin can beat the crap out of every other head coach in the league. Just sayin’. He did have the team practicing their goal line offense every practice during training camp, so they might as well use it. It’s been better than their kicker anyways.

18. You can’t look at the 2-pt conversion rate as a whole for determining whether its a good option or not because no two offenses are the same. The Steelers going for 2 is not the same as the Jaguars going for 2. The Steelers are 3/3 which is the only number that matters when deciding whether its working or not. Not +/- 50% across the league.

Also, it only matters if you miss 2 in a row. Missing the first one only forces you to go for a second. If you miss both, then yeah it was a bad decision, but if you miss twice from the 2 you shouldn’t have tried it in the first place.

Hope, and think, the Steelers continue to do this early in the game.

19. Still a bad and entirely unnecessary rule change. This isn’t Madden, I do not want to see teams going for 2 after every touchdown.

The only thing that really needs to change is the ridiculous sequence of touchdown, commercial break, PAT, commercial break, kickoff, commercial break.

20. Deb says:

Going for two is exciting when teams have the option to do one or the other and can make a strategic decision. It’s not exciting when teams must go for two because the kicker isn’t good enough to make the extra point. I’m glad the Steelers are having success with the two-point conversion. I’d be even happier if we had a reliable kicker.

21. therealjr says:

I’m no happier about games hinging on extra points (and two point conversions for that matter) than games hinging on field goals. The excitement needs to be the plays between the conversion, not the conversion itself. NFL has people eating this up while ignoring the overall terrible quality of play thus far.

22. FinFan68 says:

I don’t really like the change. It would be like the NBA saying that free throws are too easy and moving them out to the 3 point line or hockey saying the goalies are too good and widening the goal.

The premise was that the extra points were boring. If that is true then why don’t they fix the TV timeout crap? Running a single play sandwiched in between the down time caused by 6-7 commercials is more boring than a made extra point–especially for those that spend a small fortune to go to the games. I have seen several long commercial breaks come back only to have the official say the previous play will now be under review and then they cut to more commercials. Why can’t that be done during the first set of commercials? The TV networks should broadcast the games as they play out. Stopping the games for TV commercials is simple profiteering and takes away from the game.

23. In theory, this was a decent idea. But, moving the ball from the 2 to the 15 was too drastic. It should have been to the 10 or 5 yd line. You still would have seen more misses, but, there are now too many misses – and, the bad weather hasn’t even started.
Do we really want to see Division titles and Playoff berths and games decided on a sudden wind gust on a PAT?

24. On the surface it may seem ridiculous, but I’m still happy to have Scoobs. All Steeler fans know the dark history of our special teams. The fact that his kick-offs are 10 – 15 yards deeper than any other Steeler’s kicker I can remember makes up for some of the FG misses. Go look up opponents’ avg starting field position on kick-offs the last few years and compare it to what we have seen through 2 games and will see the rest of the season. I expect his FG % to go up as he gets a little more comfortable with his new team.

25. If you had Josh Scobee as your kicker like the Steelers, you’d go for 2 more often too!

That being said, I mean come on. When Bell comes back next week and Bryant in two weeks, that means on a 2 pt play you have to account for A.Brown, Bell, Bryant, Wheaton, H.Miller and possible DeAngelo Williams.

That’s a ton of options for one of the best offenses in the NFL to utilize.

Tomlin is ahead of the curve, kudos to him.

If our defense can improve in even the slightest way (you know, like covering the other teams #1 threat), look out.

26. nfldoc says:

I think the extra point is too far away now. It’s a little ridiculous. I would just go for 2 as the routine and only kick with a large second half lead. They should put the ball at the 10 for the PAT, not the 15. The percentages are going to change as the weather changes. Then everyone will be going for 2.

27. So much for the extra point excitement. I have watched exactly zero extra points this year. Still use that time to take a leak and get a beer.

28. The reward of going for two is much greater than the risk of missing an extra point. Especially if you have confidence in your defense.

29. This is the most idiotic rules change in the history of the league. The kicker should be *less* of a factor in games’ outcomes, not more. The actual players should determine who wins and loses. It makes absolutely no sense.

30. This is a stupid change. If you don’t like the old extra point, then just make all teams go for two points–mandatory two-point play. That would be better than turning the extra point into a field goal, which just seems a bit silly.

31. rltmd317 says:

Move it back 5 more yards and it will be perfect and really put pressure on coaches and kickers.

32. Deb says:

stillers213 …

Thanks for the perspective on Scobee’s kickoffs. Hadn’t checked his other stats, and that does increase his value to the team despite the missed scoring opportunities.

33. What sport has a scoring attempt AFTER a successful scoring attempt? I suppose getting fouled in basketball during a successful shot allowing you a free throw, would be an example-but that actually makes sense).

I propose a 2-1-1 league: 2 points for a touchdown, 1 point for a field goal, and 1 point for a safety. No other scoring, whatsoever.

Extra points are silly, anti-climatic, and they prevent ties and overtime excitement. When was the last overtime Super Bowl? Never!

Also, a safety is relatively rare. Isn’t it worth the same as a (very common) field goal?

Yes, we could have a 6-3-3 league as well. This would be a compromise. But if you remember factors from primary school, these padded scores (unlike other sports) could be reduced to a 2-1-1 scoring system.

Just a thought. I doubt if the NFL would ever consider these options.

Perhaps I should create a spring league…

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