Pagano backtracks on criticism of Luck

AP

After Monday night’s home loss to the Jets, Colts coach Chuck Pagano seemed to criticize quarterback Andrew Luck and G.M. Ryan Grigson simultaneously. On Tuesday, Pagano backed off regarding the apparent criticism of the former.

“It’s really complementing our quarterback is what I was doing there,” Pagano said as to remarks widely interpreted as a slap at the team’s franchise quarterback. “You guys know how many different lineups we’ve had because of injuries and this, that and the other. That’s well-documented over the last three years. The way he’s been able to perform and lead this football team, 11 wins three straight years, playoff wins and all those things. That’s what that was, because we were talking about this, that and the other with the clock [in his head] and it was saying, ‘Hey guys, we got one hell of a quarterback. We’ve got a great player and a great leader there.’ If anybody handles that type of adversity any better then, and there are some great quarterbacks obviously around this league, but again it was more of, ‘Hey we’re lucky that we’ve got Andrew.’ He’s had to deal with that over the course of the first three years when we do have some issues and things break down. Again, people are going to put pressure on you, people are going to come after you in different ways and it’s not always going to be perfect. But that kid has found a way to extend plays and make plays right when everybody thought the down was over.”

Of course, that’s not what Pagano said last night. Last night, Pagano said of Luck, “He’s got to take care of the football. It’s not that hard. It’s not trigonometry.”

Pagano also said regarding Luck’s handling of erratic line play, “[That has] been the case for three years now, hasn’t it? He should be more than comfortable dealing with it.”

Today, the criticism was at a minimum.

“When you look at this thing, thank God we have the guy that we have,” Pagano said Tuesday. “Thank God we have the leaders in our locker room who’ve been able to go through some tough times and bounce back time and time again. You talk about when I got asked the question about the quarterback, the timing, this that and the other, all that stuff. He’s been doing phenomenal things for us over the last three years. He makes huge plays. We put a lot on his plate, and he handles it extremely well. He manages the game. He finds a way when we do have a breakdown here or there in a protection. He’s big and he’s strong and he’s athletic and he can escape and he can extend plays.”

Pagano didn’t offer similar praise of Grigson’s efforts and abilities. On one hand, Pagano wasn’t asked about Grigson. On the other hand, the Pagano-Grigson relationship continues to be the proverbial wildebeest in the bungalow.

95 responses to “Pagano backtracks on criticism of Luck

  1. Meh. Who cares. Whiny backtracking angerbot needs to increase his emotional IQ before talking to press. Seems like a coaching trend nowadays. Especially in the AFC, the Conference of No Accountability

  2. Griggson been a loser everywhere he’s been. How do you give a first round pick for Trent Richardson, now out of the league. He is getting Karma just like Harbaugh for Deflategate.

  3. Look. Luck is an elite NFL QB… a step below Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers but still top tier.

    That said– he played really bad on MNF and shouldn’t always get a pass because of past performances.

    You’re allowed a bad game… just call a spade a spade.

  4. Yeah, okay. Shouldn’t he talk like an honest or truthful coach instead of having to explain the next day “Oh, this is the context of what I really meant?” 63 point game against them coming up soon.

  5. The problem is that Pagano was right in the first place. Brady has 3 rookies, one undrafted, playing regularly, and he has zero interceptions.

    More film work, less commercials. Look what that did to Eli.

  6. I wonder why people like Pagano can’t just say, “Look, I was pissed off at the loss and said some things I shouldn’t have. I apologize.” Why try and make up crap?

  7. The line deserves criticism. The QB deserves criticism(stop shielding the kid and give it). The HC deserves criticism. And most of all, the GENERAL MANAGER deserves criticism. I am in no way a Colts fan. I actually dislike them. But that GM is doing everyone in that organization a disservice. He’s gotta go.

  8. Pagano might not be the best of coaches, but Grigson is the much bigger problem here. Terrible trades, poor draft picks, continues to ignore the problems on both lines.

  9. When you partner up with others to initiate a sting against the G.O.A.T. who has torched your team for years, it’s impossible to remember when you lied, and to whom. Pigano doesn’t know what he’s said minute-to-minute about his own qb or players, because he’s a bald-faced liar. Hey Pigano, when you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Remember that the next time you try to frame another NFL player.

  10. Chuck really shows off his intelligence with repeated references to “this, that and the other.” Well played.

  11. The loudest ones from framegate (Indy, Baltimore, Houston) are getting their lessons on what happens when you cross the Pats! Hey Indy, few more weeks till the Pats hang 80 on you guys!! Reap the whirlwind Indy, reap it!

  12. Padano can’t criticize anything. He’s the who opted to throw the ball on 2nd and 2. End result, a missed FG.

  13. Grigson is Matt Millen absent Millen’s playing and announcing accomplishments but with a great QB placed in his lap.

    Drafting wide receivers too high instead of working the draft to build a balanced team is something only the worst GMs do.

  14. “You guys know how many different lineups we’ve had because of injuries and this, that and the other.”
    ———————
    That’s certainly a well documented problem that football teams have to address, “this, that and the other.” Maybe Pagano could give a clinic on this someday. Or would be on “this” “that” or “the other”? As a Pats fan, I certainly hope this makes the Indy fans feel so much better, that your coach has a real handle on what’s necessary to fix the Colts problems.

  15. The Colts are God awful. After what New England did in Buffalo i.e. Brady passing for 466 with three touchdowns and no picks, what do you thing he’s gonna hang on that pitiful defense? I can’t wait. I want a split screen for the entire game, with half of it on Grigson. You crapped in your mess kit this time, Ryan.

  16. Did he really just say “this that and the other” 3 different times? Shut up Pagano, you sound like a babbling moron trying to cover your tracks.

  17. Babying Luck does nothing to help him improve. The guy has been a turnover machine over this season, last years playoffs and last season.

    Having to backtrack when your franchise QB has 6 turnovers in 2 games is ridiculous.

  18. Was Andrew Luck to blame for drafting a WR they don’t need over offensive and defensive line help?
    I don’t get it, when Trent Richardson was struggling in Indianapolis, they blamed the offensive line, despite the fact that Richardson was the only back on that team to average less than 4.0 ypc. But Andrew Luck can’t get two seconds to survey the field without the defense in his face, and it’s Andrew Luck’s fault?

  19. I like Pagano, I think he’s the best coach available at the moment. But Ryan Grigson has got to go. He’s done a piss poor job here in Indianapolis. Like orchestrating the worst trade in Colts history with the Trent Richardson deal.
    Here’s what wins in the NFL, a stout defense and a stout offensive line. With a great QB leading the offense. They have the great QB, now if they can just give the kid a great defense and a great offensive line.

  20. Chuck Pagano is a wet cat backed into a corner. He stands no chance against his own owner or GM and I understand his “attack” against Luck (Grisgson)….. There is no problem between Pagano and Luck. I bet they agree on and discuss these topics every day. Luck likely laughed off the idea that Pagano is targetting him………….. The prolem is ownership and GM. Any reported rift between Grigson and Irsay won’t become a reality until Pagano is used as both of their scapegoat. You got an owner who forces trades and tweets about them days in advance before being confirmed…….. His GM is fairly smart but lacks any true authority and is essentially a useless puppet. Irsay might as well take on Jerry Jones role and embrace all praise and criticsm because you better believe he is as involved as ol’ Jerry but simply avoids the critique that Jerry takes on with his GM title. Irsay is the biggest obstacle for the Colts. Any owner who can only manage one SB Ring with a prime Peyton Manning is a loser.

  21. Since Luck was drafted:

    They haven’t had any kind of O-line, they haven’t had ANY kind of run game (including a 1st on Trent Richardson), and the defense (isn’t Pagano supposed to be a defensive minded coach?) has been horrid, especially against the run, while also generating ZERO pass rush.

    Yet now that he hears the whispers of people wondering if the Colts could be due with an upgrade at head coach, he lashes out at the one constant (other than Vonte Davis and T.Y) the Colts have. Does he realize #12 is the only thing keeping his team from going 4-12?

    He better back track from that clear cut scapegoating of he did of Luck. Literally ANY coach/GM combo could have done the same or better with Andrew Luck’s supporting cast.

  22. Don’t worry, the Pats and Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback who ever walked the Earth, are coming to put you guys out of your misery.

  23. Cryan Grigson is a disaster. irsay is a junkie. and pagano is throwing the only good thing about the entire franchise under the bus.

    indy = dumpster fire

    meanwhile the Patriots haven’t missed a beat and TB12 has looked like the best QB in history since the nfl ‘fixed’ the air pressure…makes all the fuss look pretty silly at this point…

  24. Didn’t they star 0-2 last year? How’d that werk out eh?

    Andrew Luck = winning record … it’s not trigonometry folks!

  25. Andrew Luck carries the Colts on his back. Without him, they win zero games. He is a true elite QB.

    Pagano needs to get Luck some help and place his blame elsewhere.

  26. Pagano-Dead Man Walking. It’s the same GM head coach dynamic that ended Jim Harbaugh’s career in San Francisco. “It’s Like Deja-Vu All Over Again”. (R.I.P. Yogi)..,

  27. “Did anyone notice that the patriots fumbled 3 times in the first two weeks?”

    He says while totally ignoring the fact that brady has had some of his best games of his career so far this year and sits right at top of the qb stats ytd lol.

  28. Pagano watched some film, realized that because of some lousy offensive game-planning, Luck was under duress on every play, and thought, Hm, maybe I shouldn’t have popped off like that right after the game.

    Luck’s a great QB but his team’s too small in the trenches on both sides of the ball, and he had the misfortune–yup, the bad Luck–of facing two great defensive fronts in weeks one and two. Any other QB in his shoes, even including Rodgers, probably would have looked pretty bad against the Bills and Jets. I know Brady hung 466 3/0 on Buffalo but Brady’s o-line is better than Indy’s by a mile and the Pats’ offense is predicated on short routes and quick releases from the QB, which keeps Brady out of harm’s way most of the time. Indy just kept doing what it always does, which is to try and stretch the field, and basically threw their star QB to the wolves.

  29. How dare he criticize Andrew. Hello Canton, hold up on that bust. Let’s give it another few years to see what we got here.

    Funny, how suddenly the turnover machine, Geno Smith, is not compared to Andrew Luck for his turnovers. I guess it just doesn’t fit the narrative.

    Hard to bash Geno, when it’s increasingly obvious that Luck and Eli turn it over more frequently. Therefore, only talk about Geno’s jaw so the turnover subject doesn’t come up.

  30. Wasn’t their 0-2 start last year against two playoff teams? They will finish 10-6, win the division, and get run out in the first round of the playoffs.

  31. Remember all those times Belichick was forced to remind the Patriots players that Brady was their leader? Haha, never had to happen. Of course, Brady has never started 0-2 either.

    Is it possible that the Colts instigated deflategate because they honestly have no idea what a truly good QB looks like after being stuck with Peyton and Luck? It is the least embarrassing explanation after so many, many others.

  32. Mark 10/18 down on your calendars vs. the Patriots – that’s the day Grigson and the Colts bill is due. Irsay is gonna need a pile of Percs after that one.

  33. It’s kind of funny that what he said was a bold face truth. Luck does need to take care of the ball and he has had a weak offensive line for three years. He just happened to take on two top defenses. Usually he gets to play against one of the ho-hum teams in his own division to start the season. What the coach said is the truth, what he does about it should determine his value as an Indy head coach.

  34. …and the parts of Check Pagano and Ryan Grigson will be played simultaneously by Christopher Walken.

    Luck should go FA and sign a reasonable contract with the Patriots when Tom Brady retires. Then he will be with a team where everyone is on the same page.

    Belichick’s page.

  35. bdywrks says:
    Sep 23, 2015 12:00 AM
    Did anyone notice that the patriots fumbled 3 times in the first two weeks?

    Which is an improvement over the 4 times they fumbled in the first two weeks last season.

    And the 7 TD passes Brady had in the first two weeks is an improvement over the 3 TD passes he had in the first two weeks last season.

    Did you notice?

  36. nonsenseofpink says:
    Sep 23, 2015 7:02 AM
    …..
    Pagano needs to get Luck some help and place his blame elsewhere.

    I agree that the Colts need better o-line play, but bringing in players is Grigson’s job (for the time being, with that time growing shorter).

    Pagano and his staff need to Coach and game plan better with the players on hand. They should not be constantly running pass plays that take a few seconds to develop when the o-line is lucky to hold off the d-line in two seconds.

  37. Maybe his Junkie Boss took him aside before he threw down a few prescription meds, and told him to play nice, and not smudge the annointed ones embarrassment of a performance?? Wonder what the over-under will be this week on his arm punts?

  38. Andrew Luck is now 2-8 vs the AFC East for his career and 17-15 in non-divisional games since 2012.

    He’s overrated, plain and simple.

  39. Bla bla bla. This, that and the other. Bla Bla Bla. This that and the other. Bla bla bla. This that and the other.

    Mush-mouthed moron. No wonder his weak team stinks.

    Watching the Colts lose is almost as satisfying as watching the Pats win. It should be an extremely satisfying year!

  40. You can’t un-throw Andy under the bus.
    He should find a better organization after this year.
    Oliver thinks he would look great in a Texan’s uniform.

  41. It’s funny how the Organization was critical of Luck and now they are not, yet they still haven’t PAID HIM.

    Grigson, don’t screw this up like pretty much everything you have done since you got to Indy.

    Pay Luck his money!

  42. i feel sorry for Luck. he’s a good player.

    maybe if the O-line didn’t say “Ole!” at every snap he might do better.

    the Dolts with Grigson (wasn’t that whitey bulger’s partner?) and ‘thanks dad’ Irsay don’t deserve him.

  43. Grigson is a joke. 1st round pick for a guy that is out of the league now. Didn’t bring in any offensive line. Apparently he doesn’t understand that when you have a great QB, you don’t need great receivers. You need to keep the QB upright.

  44. 12coltsfan12 says:
    Sep 23, 2015 5:48 AM

    Cryan Grigson is a disaster. irsay is a junkie. and pagano is throwing the only good thing about the entire franchise under the bus.

    indy = dumpster fire

    meanwhile the Patriots haven’t missed a beat and TB12 has looked like the best QB in history since the nfl ‘fixed’ the air pressure…makes all the fuss look pretty silly at this point…

    Except that the Patriots have 3 fumbles in the first 2 games…..

  45. unclebluck says:
    Sep 23, 2015 9:07 AM
    …..
    Except that the Patriots have 3 fumbles in the first 2 games…..

    The Patriots had 4 fumbles in the first two games last season, so they have better ball security so far this season (although I would prefer 0 fumbles).

    If that was your point, then I agree with your point.

  46. longdrive2011 says:
    Sep 23, 2015 6:35 AM

    Wildabeast in the bungalow?

    —–

    Yeah, you know, we were talking about wildabeast, this, that and the other…

  47. tccoats says:
    Dysfunction starts at the top, look no further than Robert Irsay…..
    ______________________

    You’d be looking for Robert for a long time.
    Jim on the other hand is absolutely the lion’s share of the problem. Does anyone here think he pulled the trigger on Richardson on his own? Grigson may be a slimy dipstick but a child could see what that team’s needs were heading into the draft, a non drug addled one that is. The fish rots from the head.

  48. The curse of FrameGate continues

    The football gods are not happy with those who cheat and lie (and I’m talking about Goodell, and all from the Colts and Ravens who tried to set up the botched sting – too bad for them the footballs weren’t actually deflated!)

  49. “Did anyone notice that the patriots fumbled 3 times in the first two weeks?”

    Yes, 2 by a player who has never been a Patriot before and hence is invalid for comparison purposes, and a strip sack which any QB would have lost and is a totally different type of fumble than whining losers are hoping will happen for the Pats this year

  50. “[That has] been the case for three years now, hasn’t it? He should be more than comfortable dealing with it.”

    This is definitely a shot at the GM.

  51. Check the numbers since the Colts were caught in the AFCCG playing with 3-4 deflated footballs. Lucks qb rating is ~30 and Brady’s is well over 100 including breaking SB records and winning the SB MVP. Thats kinda weird, isnt it?

  52. Saw the interview as it happened. I didn’t ever see it as a shot at Luck. They kept asking him about what they need to fix, and he said stop with the penalties and turnovers. They pushed for more specifics in regards to Luck, and he basically repeated the same thing.

  53. Colts need an O-Line improvement! Can’t believe they spent their first pick on a WR.. lmao

  54. The Colts have gone 11-5 three years in a row, and they could make it 4 straight years with at least 11 wins. Remember, they started 0-2 last year too, and made it to the AFC Championship. They’ll get it fixed. The Colts are more talented than they were the previous 3 years. They’ve got a lot of young guys starting, and a lot of new veterans too. It takes time to get in rhythm. The Patriots had a rough start last year, but they stayed the course. The Colts will too. The Colts are a scary team, and a lot of people are hoping they just go away. But they won’t.

  55. love Indy fans excuse: “well, they played two top defenses”.

    ahhh, Indy fans, Bills gave up 500 yards and 40 points, the yardage most in team history. that ain’t no “top” defense.

    your issue is, your team blows, got run out of the AFC Championship and did NOTHING to improve itself. Gore and Andre Johnson? c’mon.

    at least Jerry Jones does things to try and improve his team. everyone outside of Indy, sees Grigson as a lap dog and know Irsay triggered Deflategate because he can’t beat the Patriots on the field.

    Actually feel sorry for Indy fans (OK, not all of them) that are actually knowledgeable and loyal Colt fans. You deserve better.

    On the other hand, Patriots start 2 rookies and 2 undrafted free agents on the O-line which means players can be coached up if you have the right coaches.

    To me, it’s not one thing and you can have all the natural ability in the world and it does not work out, ask Matthew Stafford.

    See you on Oct 18th. we will be there loud and proud! It’s not personal but your organization asked for it, Indy fans.

  56. tonebones says:
    Sep 23, 2015 10:54 AM

    The Colts have gone 11-5 three years in a row, and they could make it 4 straight years with at least 11 wins. Remember, they started 0-2 last year too, and made it to the AFC Championship. They’ll get it fixed. The Colts are more talented than they were the previous 3 years. They’ve got a lot of young guys starting, and a lot of new veterans too. It takes time to get in rhythm. The Patriots had a rough start last year, but they stayed the course. The Colts will too. The Colts are a scary team, and a lot of people are hoping they just go away. But they won’t.
    —————————————————————–
    The Colts are a very over rated team. The last 2 years they are 12-0 Vs AFC South and 10-12 against the rest of the league. They have O-line and defensive weaknesses but added an additional receiver with their 1st round pick, as well as an aging receiver and running back.

    Luck may be the most talented QB to come out in the last several years, but he’s getting very gun shy with pressure. Three picks Monday night with zero sacks. If they don’t protect him it”s going to get worse.

    They became a trendy pick because they made the AFC Championship last year (and have the banner to prove it). They were only there because they drew an injured and aging Peyton Manning who was a shell of himself at the end of the season. Once there, the Patriots destroyed them.

    So yeah, they’ll make the playoffs by default. But anyone who bet on the Colts to be in or win the Super Bowl may as well have flushed their money down the drain.

  57. you can have all the talent in the world but if you have no supporting cast, what good is it? I see another Matthew Stafford unfolding in front of me.

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