Zimmer says league conceded error regarding Barr’s late hit on Stafford

AP

The late hit applied by Vikings linebacker Anthony Barr to Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford has sparked plenty of discussion regarding whether Stafford’s teammates underreacted. Vikings coach Mike Zimmer now claims that the officials may have overreacted.

Via Mark Craig of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Zimmer said that the league office told him Barr’s hit on Stafford shouldn’t have drawn a flag because Stafford deliberately slowed down to draw the penalty.

“I probably owe Anthony Barr an apology because I talked to the [league] officials [Tuesday] night,” Zimmer said. “These quarterbacks now, they’re starting to slow down as they go out of bounds. Kind of egging these things on. That’s one of the things we talked about and [the official] said, yeah, [Barr’s penalty] probably should not have been called.

“What [the league official] told me was they do not get protection if they slow down.”

The next question becomes whether the NFL will publicly acknowledge that Barr shouldn’t have been flagged.

50 responses to “Zimmer says league conceded error regarding Barr’s late hit on Stafford

  1. The discussion of whether his teammates under reacted is basically confined to posts by a couple different people who write for this site. For some reason it’s become a narrative. Not sure what you were watching but I saw someone in Barr’s face right away.
    Wondering what your preferred alternative would have been? Maybe the whole sideline bum rushing him and beating him down?

  2. Rodney Harrison won’t like this one bit. Next year he and Steve Smith SR can have a reality show where they travel around beating people up.

  3. In Matt Stafford’s defense he couldn’t have been more complimentary of the Vikings in his press conference after the game. Kept going on and on about how great they were and how much respect he had for Mike Zimmer. Class act. His teammates might be saying things in the media but it’s not coming from the man himself.

    – Vikings fan

  4. Sad to see Zim turn in to a Pete Carroll incessant whiner type!! With such a poor W-L record, you’d think he’d focus on what’s ahead of us, not what happened last week!

  5. What a football player, that Barr. He’s able to hit a QB who’s slowing down on his way out of bounds. I’m guessing Barr is one of those guys who rushes to get a hand on a fallen ball carrier or jumps on a pile so he gets credit for the tackle.

  6. I can’t understand how you get a penalty for hitting a some one out of bounds while they are still in bounds.

  7. this has to be one of the stupidest things I ever read for a blatant cheap shot.was out of bounds by his why wouldn’t he slow down? he was a least 5 yards out of bounds when he was hit! did zimmer go to the suh school of excuses?

  8. Easy to see by Staffords reaction that he wasnt trying to draw a flag. His body was heading straight out of bounds and he didnt try to sneak in extra yardage. Dude was running for his life at that point and may have relaxed a second to soon.

    I dont blame Barr for shoving him, he was playing to the whistle but for anyone to suggest Stafford was egging it on or baiting Barr didnt watch the game.

    Im not calling Zim a liar but whatever league official told him that must have only saw that play and nothing more.

  9. There is no way a league official said that. What’s the expectation that the QB goes running full speed across the sideline? Of course they slow down, they’re going out of bounds. It was a cheap shot from Barr, no matter how Zimmer or an “unnamed league official” paint it.

  10. Ya good story zimmer I am sure that’s what Stafford was thinking the second he took off running “oh look Barr isn’t slowing down if I slow down he’ll take my head of out of bounds and we’ll get another 15 yards!” I don’t think it matter Barr had one thing on his mind and that was head hunting. That looks like something Suh maybe taught him in the offseason

  11. Now the officials on the field are going to have to determine whether or not a quarterback intentionally slowed down on his way out of bounds? Do we use instant replay to help with that decision? So they would rather have the QB run full speed towards the sidelines? And if he is hit on the way, the impact for sure will cause an injury as he stumbles over objects on the sidelines including his opponents. A running back can be replaced without hesitation. A second or third string QB will change the outcome of the game. I’m a defensive player I am coming hard at Stafford and protest to the officials that he intentionally slowed down.

  12. Now that the Barr call is out of the way what about the phantom hands to the face on Emerson Griffen? Or the non call against Ansah for the late hit on Bridgewater? Or the infamous five downs Detroit got in the fourth quarter? Do I need to go on? Oh wait. Rodney Harrison – How about the Lions supposedly not coming to Stafford’s aid since there was no true late hit? I guess you didn’t see the Lion dressed in street clothes come and push Barr then Stafford’s himself push Barr without a flag getting thrown. But yeah Golden Tate, the refs were real biased weren’t they?

  13. Show the full photo Stafford was in bounds. Tate is irresponsible with his charges of dirty play. the Vikings aren’t a dirty team.

  14. Looked like unnecessary roughness to me. The vikings had a lot of hits to the head and neck area as far as I could see.

    Those were called a lot last year. Perhaps the vikings players will get fined. If not, I guess that focus isn’t there any more by the league.

  15. Here’s a very simple question, did Barr hit Stafford after he went out of bounds, Yes or No? The answer of course is Yes, so what does it matter if Stafford slowed down, walked or even stopped? It’s comparable to a QB barking out a hard count, the objective is to get the other team to engage in a rule infraction for the benefit of your team.

    Why is Zimmer making excuses for obvious penalties on his own team? How about playing within the rules, has that idea ever occurred to him?

  16. Whether it was legal or not doesn’t really matter to me. He was giving himself up and Barr took a cheap shot. I promise you the favor will be returned when Teddy comes to Motown.

  17. Stafford was still in bounds when Barr first touched him, his momentum carried out of bounds when Stafford went down.

    I must have missed to calls on the lions when they were shoving Viking players long after the whistle.

    No, it was plain to see the refs kept the lions in the game. There were also a couple of dubious spots that favored the lions too. At least twice the spot of the ball was at least a yard further forward than it should have been.

  18. metalhead65 says:
    Sep 24, 2015 1:42 AM

    this has to be one of the stupidest things I ever read for a blatant cheap shot.was out of bounds by his why wouldn’t he slow down? he was a least 5 yards out of bounds when he was hit! did zimmer go to the suh school of excuses?
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    At least 5 yards out of bounds? Did you see the replay? Did you see the picture of Barr’s outstretched arms touching Stafford while still IN BOUNDS?

    No excuses. It was a legal hit like it or not.

    On another note, Stafford is a class act. I know when he confronted Barr he was frustrated and did what any normal human being would do. Do your thing Stafford. You are a good QB. Don’t let idiots like Rodney Harrison tell you what he would do. I’d love to see where he was when Brady tore his ACL? Did he punch Pollard in the face?

  19. lionsfan981 says:
    Sep 24, 2015 7:05 AM

    Ya good story zimmer I am sure that’s what Stafford was thinking the second he took off running “oh look Barr isn’t slowing down if I slow down he’ll take my head of out of bounds and we’ll get another 15 yards!” I don’t think it matter Barr had one thing on his mind and that was head hunting. That looks like something Suh maybe taught him in the offseason
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    Funny to see how Lions fans no longer support Suh’s antics now that he’s gone yet they were all “mistakes”, right?

    Barr pushed Stafford while he was still in bounds. HOWEVER, I do believe it was warranted. He was going out of bounds and made mo move to suggest otherwise. But the fact is it WAS a legal hit. I don’t hear anyone saying anything about Ansah’s late hit on Bridgewater nor do I hear Bridgewater or Zimmer complaining.

  20. It’s called gamesmanship. Anything someone can do to improve their team’s chances to win, they will do. If that wasn’t the case, you wouldn’t see basketball players acting like their legs are broken every time someone sneezes on them.

  21. Once a QB leaves the pocket, he is a deemed “a runner”. He can give himself up by sliding, but not by slowing down as he reaches the sideline. If Stafford wanted to give himself up, he should have either kept running to the sideline, or slide once he felt Barr was close. He did neither and was hit while still in bounds. No RB or WR would have drawn a flag in that scenario, so the flag was unwarranted.

  22. Why would Stafford try to draw a hit? The guy is so banged-up that he can barely stay on the field.

  23. Saying Stafford slowed down to draw a penalty in this case is like saying Aaron Rodgers put his balls in the way of Suh’s foot to accomplish the same thing …. absolutely ridiculous

  24. It’s really a sad thing that my Vikes can only beat the Lions. All these bad calls and/or lack there of is really just a screen to hide the embarrassment and shame of the pathetic Lions and the overrated Vikes. Opinions don’t mean anything after the fat lady(most Viking women) sings. If I wasn’t such a nutj0b, I would accept reality and stop arguing about calls in a game that has no meaning what so ever. My Vikings are going to beat anyone and do anything with a baby hands QB that can’t throw the ball 15 yards and our coach is a bigger cry baby then the whole Lions fan base after every game they lose.

  25. So the league wants players to go out of bounds full speed? That makes sense. Run into the bench or knock over some cameramen and get hurt doing it.

  26. Lions players UNDER reacted? That’s pretty funny since I LITERALLY saw a Lion’s COACH shove BARR in the back. They got all the major calls their way and still lost. Stafford may have had class in his post game interview, but the Lions right there on the sidelines were all up in Barr’s face and actually shoving him.

    Late hit or not, that’s straight up unprofessional. I would have been embarrassed to be a Lion’s fan right then.

  27. tigersfandan says:
    Sep 24, 2015 12:26 PM
    Why would Stafford try to draw a hit? The guy is so banged-up that he can barely stay on the field.

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    To draw a flag. It says it right in the article. Obviously like all other attempts at drawing a flag, he had to sell it to make it look real. Of course it doesn’t look obvious or else he would not have gotten the flag he wanted.

  28. tokyofilthblaster says:
    Sep 24, 2015 7:40 PM
    Head coach Mike Zimmer has FAILED in every single attempt to beat the Green Bay Packers. Every single hapless and tasteless attempt.
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    I don’t know what this has to do with goldie tater-tot whining, but since YOU brought it up. . .2015 is a new season, and unless you are a fortune teller posing as a Cheesehead, you have no clue what Zim and the Vikings will do to you.

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