Pagano is done talking about fake punt fiasco

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After saying plenty of things about Sunday night’s fake punt fiasco against the Patriots, Colts coach Chuck Pagano has finally made a good decision. He’s no longer talking about the play.

During the Monday night radio show that triggered an ill-advised call for Twitter questions for Pagano, three fan questions made the cut. One related to the play that will live in Indy infamy.

 The question, via the Indianapolis Star: “Why did Griff Whalen snap the ball on the fake punt?”

The answer, from Pagano: “From a communications standpoint, I didn’t do a good enough job with all 11 players that were on the football field. Again, we’ve looked at it extensively, we’ve talked about it enough. We looked at it today and now it’s time to put that one to bed and move on.”

Earlier in the day, Pagano answered a few more questions about the play during a press conference. Here are the key exchanges, from the transcript provided by the team.

Q: Do you regret even being in that position with the fake punt?

“No, no, not at all. Not pleased obviously with the way that we prepared the guys or coached the guys to go out and execute the play. That’s on me. I talked about that with great length, and I’ve got to be better. I don’t regret the play call at all.”

Q: Did anything on the tape today reveal something you might not have seen last night?

“Not really, we just didn’t – again, I take full responsibility for it from a preparation standpoint as far as a lot of things that had to do with that play not working. That falls on me and nobody else and I got to be better.”

Q: You could have called a timeout in that situation?

“Well, the design was to actually maybe get them to burn a timeout that they might need later on at the end of the game or catch them with too many men on the field, yada, yada, yada. It didn’t work out that way.”

Q: There had to be a fallback plan last night. I’m sure you guys talked about that.

“Yeah, at length. Again, I obviously didn’t do a good enough job of getting the thing coached up correctly to handle every scenario that can come up. That’s on me. That isn’t on these players.”

On one hand, it’s admirable that Pagano is willing to take the blame for what ultimately was a bone-headed decision by receiver Griff Whalen to snap the ball to safety Colt Anderson with no other Colts around and five Patriots in the vicinity — including one at each of Anderson’s shoulders. On the other hand, Pagano concocted the play, installed the play, practiced the play, and ultimately chose to run the play. While it would be nice to think that someone else in the organization would have been willing or able to ask Pagano at some point along the path whether he’s lost his damn mind, this one lands on Pagano’s lap.

And it’s not going away, even if he decides to ignore it. With games coming up against the Saints, Panthers, and Broncos, losses in two of those three punctuated by an embarrassment at home against Peyton Manning and company could result in Jim Irsay bidding farewell to Pagano during the bye week.

73 responses to “Pagano is done talking about fake punt fiasco

  1. Taking responsibility is great. The bigger question is why try it when the formation was illegal to begin with. Even if it worked, it gets wiped out by a penalty. Chuck, these are the basics of the game! When you line up it has to be a legal formation

  2. I can’t believe the Colts sent out a Tweet asking for questions for Coach Pagano. Those comments were hysterical.

  3. “Q: You could have called a timeout in that situation?

    “Well, the design was to actually maybe get them to burn a timeout that they might need later on at the end of the game or catch them with too many men on the field, yada, yada, yada. It didn’t work out that way.””

    This is where Pagano’s excuse falls apart, because he clearly said to either Whalen or Anderson coming off the field, “…why didn’t you call timeout…?”

    If he’s asking them why they didn’t call timeout it’s clear that he wishes they called timeout, and if he wishes they called timeout HE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT HIMSELF!

    A perfect example of a coach freezing in a big moment and then trying to passive aggressively blame it on his players.

  4. The best thing about the colts is that they are in that weak division.

    Just happens to be the best thing for the pats too.

    God bless the colts may you make the playoffs this year with a poor record.

    Much love…..

    – Pats Fans

  5. It’s Tuesday he should be done talking about it, it’s time for the team to move on to the Saints. That said, as a football fan I want to thank him for that play, we will be talking about it for a long, long time. It will be the benchmark for ridiculous special teams plays for a long time to come

  6. When the Patriots saw that formation the normal response by any other team would have been to go bananas and immediately run offside and call all three timeouts at once. They didn’t, and something’s fishy about that. When will this be investigated?

  7. alan226 says:
    Oct 20, 2015 10:04 AM
    Taking responsibility is great. The bigger question is why try it when the formation was illegal to begin with. Even if it worked, it gets wiped out by a penalty. Chuck, these are the basics of the game! When you line up it has to be a legal formation
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    Only if you snap the ball 😉

    The first thing I thought when I saw the play unfolding (before the snap) was that Pagano (or their special teams coach, hello!) was trying to use a formation they had found a “loophole” for. The refs called an illegal formation due to players not being on the line, but there was more wrong with the formation than that. It should never have been snapped, but it should never have been called if the players didn’t know what to do. And once Pagano saw it unfolding as the clusterf**k it was, it was imperative that he call a timeout. So, it IS on him.

  8. Not sure why they didn’t at least put QB/backup safety in shotgun position (plus another blocker or two) so he would have the option to execute a pooch punt. Edelman said he had moved up after the wacky shift.

  9. They lined up for a play, in a quirky formation that they hoped would fool their opponent. They now refuse to answer questions about the play. Guess the Colts have learned a few things from the Patriots, but they haven’t polished the ideas yet.

    Pagano is going to be a great coordinator for someone else next year. I hope he gets another HC job, I think he’s a good coach, but Grigson and Irsay are going to pin all the blame on him. And they will then fire Pagano’s replacement in three years.

  10. I don’t think the Colts fans are done talking about it, nor Patriots fans, nor anyone with a speck of common sense. That play I would say was almost as bad as the buttfumble. All the Colts had to do was either take the delay of game penalty or call a timeout but then Griff Whalen snapped the ball and pretty much allowed the Pats to score on their next possession. Hell look at Belichick’s face after it happened he actually had to stop himself from laughing.

  11. Pagano’s co-conspirator, John Harbaugh, was embarrassed and out smarted by Belichick in the divisional game last year with a trick play that utilized an unusual formation. Pagano had been embarrassed by Belichick in every game he coached against him. This play was not just strategic, it was emotional. He wanted a gotcha play (a trick play that utilized an unusual formation) and he only got himself, the Colts, and Irsay.

    Deflategate has left everyone that had a hand in orchestrating the charges against Brady and the Patriots look bad. Until Sunday night, Pagano had Sergeant Shultzed any connection to deflategate but he outed himself as a co-conspirator when he tried to outsmart and embarrass Belichick. Funny, no one from the Colts called Kravitz after the game to point a finger at the Patriots. They were too busy responding to questions about the worst play every called in NFL history.

  12. 6ball says:
    Oct 20, 2015 10:29 AM
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    I’ve yet to hear from Grigson. Has he left the building?

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    He is not yet done soiling himself.

  13. The Colts got the last laugh on the Patriots

    Everyone said Brady would humiliate them with a blowout win. Not even close.

    The Colts humiliated themselves!

    (Of course that play was botched so badly one has to think that the Colts players were TRYING to get Pagano fired. Wouldn’t be the first time a team has lost confidence in their coach and took a few losses to improve in the long term – and frankly it wouldn’t be the first time the Colts purposefully lost games – though in this case the Suck WITH Luck and not just FOR him)

  14. “Pagano didn’t check Griff Whalen’s wonderlic scores. That’s on him.”

    Whalen is a four year vet that went to Stanford. The coaching staff owns that play. They had all the time in the world to call time out.

  15. According to Patriots player Brandon Bolden, at least Whalen was screaming to the center “Don’t snap the ball!” over and over, which kind of gets him off the hook…

    Either way, the only thing they were hoping for there was for Belichick and the Patriots to be confused by the formation. You can try that stuff on a few of the other 31 teams and you might get away with it, but the coaching is much too deep and exact on the Patriots for that to work.

    Pagano wanted to out-Belichick Belichick, and the problem with that is–you can’t.

    I’d say “nice try”, but…

  16. One team got caught cheating when going up against Pagano in a championship game. Obviously, at least one great coach thinks he needs to cheat to beat Chuck.

  17. tonebones says:
    Oct 20, 2015 10:59 AM
    One team got caught cheating when going up against Pagano in a championship game. Obviously, at least one great coach thinks he needs to cheat to beat Chuck.

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    Really? How come 3/4 Colts balls measured were under inflated? And why about the rest of them? Why did the NFL stop measuring the Colts balls when they realized they were under inflated as well?

    Maybe the Colts can hang another banner to commemorate keeping the game to within 10 points this time.

  18. Why does the media get to call for a mans job? Does the media see the man coach on daily basis? Did the media watch how that play was coached in practice? Why does the media get to call for the mans head? But, more importantly, why do people give into the media so easily?

    Is the media the anti-Christ?

  19. My fifth attempt at a post regarding the BIGGER , MUCH BIGGER STORY here.

    Who cares about Indy’s foibles? They are a 2nd rate team trying to run with Thoroughbreds. Please.

    I’d sidenote that they took a page out NE’s playbook by leveraging 3-step drops, quick slants and hitches in the first half and it was the best their offense looked the entire nite. Eli was doing it in his first drive last nite also.
    Once again, imitation of the Patriots is is the highest form of flattery.

    The LARGER story is that Tom Brady is playing like the MVP of this league thru 5 games and has the highest QB rating in the land.

    HOW ON EARTH COULD THIS BE?
    All we heard for 10 months from Haterade Nation is that that he is a product of institutionalized cheating, low-class organization and is a complete fraud of a QB. Everything NE has accomplished over the last 15 years is tarnished, negated, and invalid, because of Deflategate, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

    How do the Haters explain Brady thriving at age 39 with FULLY INFLATED FOOTBALLS?

    Waiting…..

  20. Took the words out of my mouth. Why didn’t somebody – anybody – or his dog – notice the idiocy of the play long before it made it to an actual game?

  21. Worse than the butt fumble. That was an accident, he didn’t plan to plant his face in his linemans buttocks.

    They planned this for a YEAR…and still couldn’t execute. I get that his nerves got him to jump, but even if they pulled off a miracle they were in an illegal formation…smh

  22. Tonebones,

    I thought 3 of the 4 Colts footballs, when measured at half -time by the NFL were under inflated below the legal PSI limit. So are you implying that Pagano is both a creative play designer as well as a cheater ?

  23. Its on the “qb.”
    If he couldn’t see from “field level” that the play was doomed, then he never should have let the center hike the ball.

  24. santamoss says:
    Oct 20, 2015 10:34 AM
    When the Patriots saw that formation the normal response by any other team would have been to go bananas and immediately run offside and call all three timeouts at once. They didn’t, and something’s fishy about that. When will this be investigated?

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    The Patriots is not just ” any other team”. Investigated? Typical loser response. The Patriots do not go bananas, there’s something fishy. They cheat, right? Maybe BB stole their playbook and altered it to make the Colts look like fools. Heck! Maybe they did that to the Hawks too because they did not call a time out when ” any other team” would go bananas and call a time out. The Pats work and prepare harder than most teams and when they adjust and win losers construed it as cheating. Also how else could a bunch of grub players the Pats have win against teams with super star players? BB even have a kangaroo execute a hop block, right? That couldn’t have been a real player. Investigate it, pronto! You losers are a real sad bunch..

  25. ikeclanton says:
    Oct 20, 2015 10:58 AM
    According to Patriots player Brandon Bolden, at least Whalen was screaming to the center “Don’t snap the ball!” over and over, which kind of gets him off the hook…
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    Whalen was the snapper.

  26. I understand that this was a tremendous blunder, and Pagano is accountable, but why is the PFT staff on the warpath to have this guy axed? It seems personal. And it’s been going on for awhile now. Well before the game against the Patriots.

    If anyone deserves to go in Indy – it’s Grigson first.

  27. Pagano took Pettine off the hook for the most part with this call.

    I was at a restaurant enjoying a cold beverage when Pettine went for 2.

    Most of the people were wondering what Pettine was thinking.

    Turns out he wasn’t thinking. Either that or he had a deal worked out with DraftKings to get the Browns and Broncos a few extra plays in overtime.

    Just sayin’…

  28. Pagano is being a gentleman about it, but in terms of who is responsible, first is Griff Whalen and then the Colts Special Teams coach.

  29. tonebones says:

    One team got caught cheating when going up against Pagano in a championship game. Obviously, at least one great coach thinks he needs to cheat to beat Chuck.
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    Boy some of the No Facts League hater water boys make it easy. Even thought the Well$ report admits in a foot note there is no evidence and the league was forced to admit it in open court fools hang their hat on that report and say they cheated. But herein lies the rub, the only thing out there that the haters can point at for justification is that debunked Well$ report. Ignoring all the other now public information they cling to that report like a drowning man to a life ring. The same report that COMPLETELY EXONERATES the coaching staff. In short, if you believe the Well$ report then The Hoodie is innocent.

    Give them credit though they did learn something from Well$, just ignore the facts that don’t support your premise.

  30. What else do you want from Pagano? He was completely accountable. What more is there to say? If he kept talking about it, he would be criticized for not being able to move on from it.

  31. After barely two days, pigano wants this done??? But it’s okay to drag Brady through the mud for the last 10 months?

    I don’t see this going away anytime soon. Hey Coldwater come back and take your medicine, and bring your “Indeed.”

  32. The footage of Belichick declining the penalty is definitely classic. “Yeaaah… I think I’ll keep this one.” Already seen it in some memes.

  33. I won’t mention the monikers but the usual suspects are still playing the “cheater” card. There are the two Seahawks fans that are only now realizing that the Patriots last minute win inflicted long-term psychological damage to their favorite team. The Raiders fans that are 14 years into their sob story. The Ravens fans that make “The Wire” look upbeat in comparison to their whining. The oddballs that support teams with virtually no history against the Patriots, like the Vikings and Washington (sorry, I can’t say the name), but hate Belichick. The Manning fans from Louisiana, Tennessee, Indy, and Denver that feel they have to tear Brady down to build up Peyton. All of that gets old.

    Strange, but it is good to see the Jets playing excellent football so we can play a game this week that focuses on the matchups instead of the hate. Let’s watch the injury reports so we know who will be available. How might Bill counter the front seven of the Jets and their strong defensive backfield. Who will Bill try to take out of the game on the Jets offensive side of the ball? Can Fitzpatrick play better against Belichick’s defense that has frustrated him in the past? On special teams, the Patriots have an edge. Will they be able to exploit that edge? How good are the Jets?

    The Colts are 0 – 3 against the AFC East, the best division in football. Great to see the two top teams in the AFC East go head to head.

  34. History will never forget, Chuck.

    As long as there is football, and as long as this does not get supplanted by an even more boneheaded play (possible but unlikely), we will be hearing about this for decades to come.

    Future school children who have never heard of Pearl Harbor or 9/11 will still know what you mean when you say “That Chuck Pagano play”.

  35. jchipwood says:
    Oct 20, 2015 11:11 AM
    Why are there no stories how the Patriots were awarded an onside kick they did not get?
    _________________

    Maybe because there is no story. Those wanting to push the hater agenda should try really watching the games they comment on. The official on the sideline clearly raised his arm, blew his whistle and indicated the Patriots had covered the ball BEFORE the scrum started. The referee even went so far as to give an unnecessary explanation after the ball was spotted in order to help the dimwitted understand what officials signals and whistles actually mean.

  36. This play is the gift to Pats fans that will forever keep on giving!

    Without question this is hands down the undisputed dumbest single play in the history of the NFL.

    What puts the icing on the cake for me is that they snapped the ball with 1 second left on the play clock! If they’d have just waited one more second this play never happens and the sports world is deprived of the single most idiotic play of all time.

    Pagano, Grigson and the Colts I thank thee all most truly and sincerely from the bottom of my heart.

  37. Chuck is trying to be noble?…A year ago I might have believed it, would willingly believe it…But no longer…Chuck, you were corrupted, and your ongoing disasters are a direct result of that…So you can see your messes are all of your own making…Blaming your QB didn’t work, and blaming yourself is only too true…Just go away.

  38. Enough already. I’m the biggest Pats homer around but it was designed to get the other team to burn a timeout. If they don’t they take the 5 yard delay of game. We’ve all seen it before. It was not Pagano’s fault the kid panicked and snapped the ball for no reason other than he panicked.

    The one issue I do have with that play is he was on his own 37 – why would he call that play and possible take a 5 yard delay of game. I can see if you were punting from the opponent’s 45 yard line

  39. “When the Patriots saw that formation the normal response by any other team would have been to go bananas and immediately run offside and call all three timeouts at once. They didn’t, and something’s fishy about that. When will this be investigated?”

    That’s hilarious. It’s called preparation and knowing how to do your job well. I realize that self entitled, lazy whiners somehow view hard work as “fishy”

  40. The shame of it all is that up to that point Paggano and his staff had coached a great ball game.

    They has a great offensive plan with short passes for Luck (doing a great Brady impression on that first drive) He took some solid risks on 4th down and on side kicks. So at the end of the 3rd quarter they were still in the game.

    Even the decision to run the “swinging gate play” was a good one. There is no question the execution of the play, from the decision to snap the ball to all the guys who didn’t line up correctly was a disaster. Both players and coaches need blame here, and as the HC, Paggano takes the final dagger.

    But while I know the mediots take great pleasure in parceling out blame to others, there were a LOT of coaching mistakes made in that game on both sides. Just as BB how many things HE needs to do better this week, and the list would be long.

    Personally I think these self appointed “experts” take to much joy in calling out others like they have lived blameless lives throughout all their decisions and actions.

    It was a mistake. Deal with it. It didn’t change the score. The Colts COULD have stopped them after the . Who knows the Colts could have punted and the Pats would have scored anyway and used up more time.

    It was a stunning mistake and great for TV, but it was just one. Edelman’s dropped pass/pick 6 was much more impactful as a single play.

  41. As a colts fan, we need to take a good hard look in the mirror. Are we willing to waste another HOF (potentially) QBs career with average coaching??? Look, there is no argument that Peyton will go down as one of the greatest QBs of all time and he has 1 super bowl despite his lacking D and horrible coaching. We (city of Indy) fall in love with “nice” coaches and forget it’s about winning. Everyone outside of Boston can hate Belick but honestly he wins. He has taken a backup from Michigan and made him one of the greatest QBs of all time. Imagine what he could have done in Indy with a better QB (individual stat wise) and better weapons on average from 2000 to 2010.

    The idea that running a play (the polecat) that every HS player (if not middleschool player) has seen and thinking it is going to confuse pro players to make them call TO is in itself a joke… To run it wrong is unforgivable… Fire him and see if you can get Bruce to come back from Arizona..

  42. JMdaniel…. Stop, just stop… The pats admitted as much by paying a million dollars and giving up two draft picks. It was stupid, it was a “speeding ticket” and it was done with when they paid the fine. Just don’t say they didn’t “tamper” because they even admitted it.

    You can’t get caught speeding, get the ticket, and “plea” nolo contendere by paying the fine instead of going to court. Then yell to the world you didn’t speed because they didn’t “prove” it… The NFL didn’t have too just as a Cop doesn’t have to by you choosing to pay the fine.

    It was and is a no big deal and had the Pats not stood on their soap box yelling that they wanted an apology to the world it would have been long gone… The Pats only have themselves to blame for the “taint” on their legacy…

  43. Was this a stupid play? Yeah, but one dumb play shouldn’t cost a coach his job, esp when it didn’t affect the outcome of the game. The Colts were losing this one no matter what.

    You want someone to fire, look at Grigson. This Colts team is fundamentally flawed. It’s like they didn’t learn from the Lions that you can’t just keep drafting WRs high and expect to win. The line stinks and the defense stinks. You have a QB and WRs. That’s it. I don’t care who is coaching, that’s not a winning formula against someone who knows what they’re doing. Everyone is screaming for Pagano’s head, but sorry, they should be screaming for Grigson’s. This is his mess.

  44. Colts’ record during the Pagano/Luck era:

    19-2 against AFC South
    20-19 against the rest of the league

  45. danfromindy says:

    JMdaniel…. Stop, just stop… The pats admitted as much by paying a million dollars and giving up two draft picks. It was stupid, it was a “speeding ticket” and it was done with when they paid the fine. Just don��t say they didn’t “tamper” because they even admitted it.
    ________________

    Kraft did not admit a damn thing. He took one for the shield to make it go away and they still stuck it to him. Educate yourself. Read his statement which included this:

    “You know, what I’ve learned over the last two decades is that the heart and soul of the strength of the NFL, that it’s a partnership of 32 teams and what’s become very clear over those two decades [is] that at no time should the agenda of one team outweigh the collective good of the full 32. So I have a way of looking at problems that are very strong in my mind, and before I make a final decision, I measure nine times and I cut once, and I think maybe if I had made the decision last week it would be different than it is today, but believing in the strength of the partnership and the 32 teams, we have concentrated the power of adjudication of problems in the office of the commissioner, and although I might disagree with what is decided, I do have respect for the commissioner and believe that he’s doing what he perceives to be in the best interest of the full 32.”

  46. patswinagain… Did you read my post? I, nor anyone else needs to provide you with “proof”… They paid the fine… Don’t get mad at me, the NFL, or anyone else. If you are so upset and think it is “pathetic” get mad at the Pats and Kraft. They are the ones that decided to pay a fine they knew would make them “guilty”. But if that isn’t enough for you, the Pats provided the tape from the stadium that shows their ball boy breaking the rule in regards to the footballs not being handle correctly.

    What you and all Pats fans don’t get… You are arguing against your own team. If you wanted “proof” then you should be made at Kraft for not fighting this in court instead of paying the fine. Have you ever paid for a ticket then afterwards demanding the police prove you sped??? Of course not. After you paid the fine did you go around telling everyone that it was all made up??? Of course not..

    Stop trying to make it a bigger deal and move on… Your team admitted fault and has moved on, why can’t you?

  47. “It was a stunning mistake and great for TV, but it was just one. Edelman’s dropped pass/pick 6 was much more impactful as a single play.”

    I have to disagree.

    Edelman’s bobble after he injured his finger was bad, but the Pats sucked it up, didn’t let it bother them and kept on going.

    Whereas the Indy players, who up to the point where the rusty gate play was called were in the game and playing well. After the rusty gate their morale was broken and the game was over that moment. And the Indy players knew it.

  48. jag1959… I will say to you as I did others… I, personally, think it was to harsh a punishment. I think it was a complete overreach to suspend Brady… But it doesn’t matter what I think… It doesn’t matter what Pats fan think…

    Here are the “facts” as we know them. The ball boy from the Pats took balls into a bathroom that breaks some asinine rule for the NFL. The Pats provide tape of this. That is without question a breaking of the rules. The NFL paid millions for an “investigation” (not needed since the Pats provided proof that the rule was broken). They come back and fine the Pats and suspend Brady.

    At this point the Pats had two options… Pay the fine, tell their QB this is what the organization is going to do. Or say “NO” we don’t believe your findings (which is stupid since they provided the tape) and tell Brady we are fighting to clear our names. They picked to pay the fine. That’s it… It isn’t a conspericy… It isn’t a big deal… No one thinks it was a big deal.. It didn’t give them a competitive edge and really who cares…

    BTW, Krafts comments about protecting the shield is at best self serving… This from a owner that admitted earlier with “spygate” (another “not a big deal” scandal).. What he “protecting” the shield then??

  49. “Edelman’s bobble after he injured his finger was bad, but the Pats sucked it up, didn’t let it bother them and kept on going.

    Whereas the Indy players, who up to the point where the rusty gate play was called were in the game and playing well. After the rusty gate their morale was broken and the game was over that moment. And the Indy players knew it.”

    _________________________

    That is exactly my point… These two situations go straght to coaching… The Pats could have got all frustrated with that pick 6 or even losing at half time to a far less team… They didn’t, do to coaching in my eyes. The Colts did… The game was over with a whole quarter left to play due to coaching calls by the Colts.. Well said.

  50. danfromindy says:
    Oct 20, 2015 12:54 PM
    patswinagain… Did you read my post? I, nor anyone else needs to provide you with “proof”… They paid the fine… Don’t get mad at me, the NFL, or anyone else. If you are so upset and think it is “pathetic” get mad at the Pats and Kraft. They are the ones that decided to pay a fine they knew would make them “guilty”. But if that isn’t enough for you, the Pats provided the tape from the stadium that shows their ball boy breaking the rule in regards to the footballs not being handle correctly.

    What you and all Pats fans don’t get… You are arguing against your own team. If you wanted “proof” then you should be made at Kraft for not fighting this in court instead of paying the fine. Have you ever paid for a ticket then afterwards demanding the police prove you sped??? Of course not. After you paid the fine did you go around telling everyone that it was all made up??? Of course not..

    Stop trying to make it a bigger deal and move on… Your team admitted fault and has moved on, why can’t you?
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    You really don’t understand what the Patriots and Kraft did. They admitted no fault, but took the punishment in hopes the league would move on. Kraft later APOLOGIZED to the Patriots fans and Tom Brady for that action. It was wrong minded, even if noble. Robert Kraft was full of himself and his importance in league circles. He learned the hard way not to treat Tom Brady or Patriots fans like that. Robert Kraft will never take Tom Brady or Patriots fans for granted like that. He needed to realize whom he should be backing. Having Roger Goodell’s back was plain stupid. We all hope it was a lesson learned.

  51. “You really don’t understand what the Patriots and Kraft did. They admitted no fault, but took the punishment in hopes the league would move on. Kraft later APOLOGIZED to the Patriots fans and Tom Brady for that action. It was wrong minded, even if noble. Robert Kraft was full of himself and his importance in league circles. He learned the hard way not to treat Tom Brady or Patriots fans like that. Robert Kraft will never take Tom Brady or Patriots fans for granted like that. He needed to realize whom he should be backing. Having Roger Goodell’s back was plain stupid. We all hope it was a lesson learned.”

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    I understand exactly what he did. He plead “nolo contendere”. Which is just a legal term for “I do not want to contest” the findings. I agree completely with your post. As a Colts fan I thought it was ridiculous the “plea deal” was offered to them and was shocked that Kraft took it. Especially after all the media time he had said they did nothing wrong.

    My point to all the Pats fan that act like they are victims to the NFL or certain teams is that they should be mad at the Pats for everything you posted. The Pats did spygate, the Pats did deflategate, the Pats plead “nolo contendere” to both…

    What I don’t understand (mainly because I thought the whole thing was blown way out of proportion) and maybe you or someone on here can answer for me. How can you be a Pats fan and a Brady fan at this point? From the outside looking in, it looks like the Pats threw Brady under the bus by paying that fine and (while not agreeing) accepting the Wells report. How could the team write that check without talking to Brady? If (which there really shouldn’t be) there is some kind of talk about Brady not getting into the HOF first ballot because of this joke of an infraction, it would be solely on Kraft for writing that check…

    Like it or not, Pats fans are going to have to come to terms that the Pats are tainted. Perception is reality and by making multiple pleas of “nolo contendere”, they have tainted themselves… It wasn’t done to them but by their own hand.

  52. bstnboy says:

    deflategate is done. anyone continuing to accuse or defend is just wasting time.

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    it’s relevant to the long series of shady Pats dealings, so it’s not wasting time…. as soon as the Pats play the game with integrity, the receiver shell game, delfate, video walkthroughs, video signals, and everything else will begin to go away

    until then, they and their fans simply have to get a thicker skin

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