Kenny Vaccaro: People say Andrew Luck has “deceptive” speed because he’s white

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Colts quarterback Andrew Luck is fast. His 4.67-second 40-yard dash time at the 2012 Scouting Combine was faster than some wide receivers, and he has already gained more than 1,000 rushing yards in his career. Anyone who watches him knows he’s a great athlete.

Except those who watch him and see only his skin color.

When a football player who’s a great athlete also happens to be white, there’s often a qualifier attached to his athleticism. He’s “sneaky athletic.” Or the athleticism comes not from his genes but from being a “blue-collar” worker and a “gym rat.” Or he has “deceptive speed.”

That last label was used to describe Luck in a question to Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro this week, and Vaccaro wasn’t having it. When Vaccaro was asked if Luck’s “deceptive speed” makes it tough to prepare to play against the Colts on Sunday, Vaccaro pushed back against that label.

“Not deceptive. Just because he’s white doesn’t mean he’s deceptive. He’s actually a great athlete. He has all the tools that you ask for as a quarterback,” Vaccaro said, via Mike Triplett of ESPN. “Smart, big arm talent, can go through all his reads and he can run. So not deceptive, he’s actually athletic.”

Vaccaro is right. Members of the media should think about the labels they put on athletes. There’s nothing deceptive about Andrew Luck’s speed.

129 responses to “Kenny Vaccaro: People say Andrew Luck has “deceptive” speed because he’s white

  1. OK… so… aren’t all NFL players remarkable athletes? I would say “has deceptive speed” is accurate because QBs aren’t typically fast, let alone run a 4.67 40-yard dash. So his speed is deceptive because he’s giant. Jadaveon Clowney has deceptive speed because hes a giant freak of nature. Not because hes black. Because hes 6’6″, 275lbs and runs a 4.5 40 yard dash.

    Someone that big isn’t supposed to be that fast. So its deceptive. Why does everyone try to make everything racially motivated?? Racism exists because we connect subjective terminology to skin tone. We are really a repulsive species. Have to draw indifference from EVERYTHING.

  2. Agree with this 100 %. A healthy Jordy Nelson is fast and makes some of the most athletic catches in football and gets downplayed because he is white.

    On the flip-side, there are still many bigoted fans when it comes to a black QB.

  3. Awesome response by Vaccaro. This Panthers fan’s respect just jumped for the guy. Spoke the truth. Luck is just a damn good athlete. Leave it at that.

  4. Reminds me of when callers to talk radio in Philly would question whether McNabb had the “mental capacity” to play qb, suggesting instead that he should be a running back.

  5. @faulkana

    it’s not a story about nothing. you may have never heard that said about luck, but it was said in the very question vaccaro was responding to.

  6. Glad somebody finally said it. Luck is a freakish specimen. Born to be a QB. However, media has to make a splash. Sometimes it’s a long reach but everyone needs to make a paycheck. Football mind and physique. Caucasian

  7. He had deceptive speed in his rookie year because he was a nerdy cherub. After that first 20 yard run I just thought of him as fast.

  8. I notice this on this website all the time. Ever since Teddy Bridgewater was drafted people on this site commenting (packer trolls in mass) only compare Teddy to other black QB’s and its so ridiculously transparent

  9. I take Vaccaro’s point. I have to admit, though, that every time I see Andrew Luck pull the ball down and run, I’m surprised by his speed. He just doesn’t look like a speed guy. Not because he’s too white but because he’s too big. And because I think of him as a pocket passer, and foot speed’s not something we normally associate with pocket passers.

    Meaning, apparently, that if I were an NFL safety, Luck would scramble, I’d take a bad angle, and he’d pick up an extra ten yards.

  10. They say the same thing about Rodgers too, but to the idiot up there talking abt its the “NFL everyone is athletic”…please watch Peyton, Eli, or Brady run…they prob run 5.0 flat 40’s.

  11. to me sports media is very racist, specially when you get to espn and a single sport based show. but majority of the sports media consider themselves liberals. i dont get it

  12. Maybe it’s deceptive because he isn’t built like a Mike Vick or a Marriota. Vince Wilfork has been described as a “tremendous athlete” and it had nothing to do with race. Why does this love to bring up race whenever they can squeeze it in? WTF

  13. I thought Luck’s speed was deceptive because he’s like a huge, huge man and someone that big but isn’t completely ripped like Calvin Johnson doesn’t look like they should be able to move that fast. Luck is like “big soft guy fast.”

    Sad that color has to come into the conversation at all. I suppose Wes Welker was considered slow too since he is white. Maybe that’s why he was so good; because no one took him seriously simply because he is white and they just let him catch the ball and run all over the field with it.

  14. If Kenny weren’t mixed-race, he would be “So Well Spoken”. As a result, he’s only Half-Well Spoken.
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    PFT comment of the week right there. Well done

  15. No truer words have been spoken..

    Similar phrases used to describe white football players..

    “Max effort guy”
    “Sneaky athletic”
    “Never give up player”
    “Deceptively fast”

    Or when analysts compare every white running back ever to John Riggins..

    Or every white slot receiver to Wes Welker..

  16. I hate these comments. Just like the announcer during a Broncos game 2 years ago telling the audience that Wes Welker reminds Broncos fans of Ed McCaffery. WHAT??? Except for skin color, they were nothing alike!!! I mean there is that thing where they played the same position and both caught football.

    The media is clueless when it comes to this.

  17. Has Harbaugh filed a complaint yet ? I thought “deception” wasn’t legal play according to the whining king

  18. Or MAYBE they say deceptive speed because he’s a big oaf who looks like he’d be slow. Yanno MAYBE. Then again, why not make a racial issue out of nothing? That would be boring…

  19. I’m white and I’ve been labeled as having deceptive speed by a couple of my black friends. I don’t think it’s racially motivated. They say it’s because no one can poop that fast without washing their hands, but it’s true I do wash them

  20. therealtrenches
    Oct 23, 2015, 9:06 AM EDT
    Reminds me of when callers to talk radio in Philly would question whether McNabb had the “mental capacity” to play qb, suggesting instead that he should be a running back.
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    Remember Philly, #5 will always love you!

    Congrats, your lousy team and city will forever be bound together with McNabb in a perpetual cycle of mediocrity and missed opportunities.

  21. “Jadaveon Clowney has deceptive speed because hes a giant freak of nature. Not because hes black. Because hes 6’6″, 275lbs and runs a 4.5 40 yard dash.”

    Personally, I’ve never heard anyone refer to Clowney as “deceptively fast”; only a “freak athlete”.

    I really couldn’t care less if someone was perceived as un-athletic because they’re white; it’s a prejudice that just really doesn’t matter. However, lets not pretend like it’s one that doesn’t exist and isn’t quite prevalent in the NFL and NBA in particular…

  22. If Luck is fast, he should have run out on the field and taken the snap from Griff Whalen during Indianapolis’s fake punt attempt.

    Still laughing about how comical it was . . . kind of like the Colts organization.

  23. Luck ran a 4.6 yd dash at the combine. He’s very athletic especially for his size. Nothing deceptive about that. Just do your homework on you opponent.#HTTR

  24. “They say the same thing about Rodgers too, but to the idiot up there talking abt its the “NFL everyone is athletic”…please watch Peyton, Eli, or Brady run…they prob run 5.0 flat 40’s.”

    Speed is not a requisite of athleticism; agility, strength, quickness, and coordination all qualify as athletic traits.

    All three of those guys (at least in their prime) had the ability to stand in the pocket, step up as it collapsed, shake off rushers, and deliver perfect rifle passes down the field.

    Pocket passers are athletes. There’s no argument.

  25. Eutaw’s Finest said:

    “Or MAYBE they say deceptive speed because he’s a big oaf who looks like he’d be slow.”

    Exactly. I like Andrew Luck quite a lot, but the fact is, he looks like an Amish farm boy. I don’t recall hearing sportswriters or fans saying Johnny Manziel, Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, or Nick Foles have deceptive speed because they look like they could be fast … and, hey, they’re white.

  26. Reminds me of Charles Woodson’s comment that Jordy Nelson’s speed was overlooked because he is white.

    Curious trivia fact. At one time, the Packers had the players with the fastest 40 times. Don Beebe, Bill Schroeder and Travis Jervey. All white.

  27. I thought his speed was deceptive because of the neck beard. People with neck beards aren’t usually fast they are usually ice fishing or cow tipping.

  28. najacoo22 says:
    Oct 23, 2015 9:15 AM
    “That white wide receiver reminds me of Wes Welker”
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    Yes, they’re “quicker than they are fast”.

  29. boss81hogg says:
    Oct 23, 2015 9:41 AM
    Liberals love this kid of stuff…putting everyone into classes.
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    Please, tell us more of how you would group these folks you’ve put in a political class called ‘liberal’. It seems as though you really love it.

  30. Andrew Luck ignored for national endorsements for the most part.
    While hack QB Rgbustus got them all. Andrew Luck was by far a better role model and a great Qb why was he ignored for national endorsements over RG bustus was color the issue?

  31. I think we’re forcing this to be coded a bit. “Sneaky” or “deceptive” speed is used to describe black athletes too. You take a Dexter McCluster, Jarvis Landry, and even Jerry Rice were described to have “deceptive speed.” Andrew Luck is a 6’4″, 250 lb. thick athlete. You don’t really expect him to be fast, but when he is…..you are a bit shocked. Ryan Tannehill ran faster than Luck at the combine, and has been described as having “deceptive speed.” It’s really just a moniker for someone who doesn’t look as fast as they are. Or…their “football speed” is higher than their “track speed.” But a code for “white guy” I don’t think the evidence supports that.

  32. Just as black athletes who speak like a completely normal person in interviews are “well spoken”, or black athletes who do not get into trouble off the field and provide leadership are “class acts”. Or white athletes who are less athletic but still very fundamentally sound are labeled as “tough”.

    All the labels are completely transparent and need to stop.

  33. nflfolly says:
    Oct 23, 2015 10:31 AM
    Andrew Luck ignored for national endorsements for the most part.
    While hack QB Rgbustus got them all. Andrew Luck was by far a better role model and a great Qb why was he ignored for national endorsements over RG bustus was color the issue?
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    It’s only a color issue, for people looking for it. Sort of like the folks who have a gripe with a black storm trooper.

  34. “swhughes81 says:
    Oct 23, 2015 9:48 AM
    I’m white and I’ve been labeled as having deceptive speed by a couple of my black friends. I don’t think it’s racially motivated.
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    You should tell your friends they’re surprisingly “well spoken”.

  35. 4.6 speed is pedestrian for a WR or DB. It would definately drop your stock if you had a high stock to begin. 4.6 for any QB is fast.

    4.6 speed is deceptive when you appear to be faster than 4.6 on the field.

    Jerry Rice had deceptive Speed! he was 4.6 but you would be hard pressed to find footage of him being caught from behind, pre knee.

    No Black or White comments needed.Its called Football Speed.

  36. Here’s the flipside…. Luck does not LOOK like an athlete. I agree racial stereotypes still make their way into the media, but I’m not pulling the race card out for this one.

    Luck is one of those guys you look at and think, no way I’d peg him as a football player. He’s goofy looking and awkward. He’s known for being “too nice” on the field and congratulating the other team for sacking him. He’s goofy!

    Most people don’t think of Andrew Luck and immediately think, running QB. It’s not because he’s white, it’s because he’s not a running QB. Rodgers, same thing. A reporter saying he has “deceptive speed” is perhaps a poor choice of words to allude to the fact that Luck is not viewed as a runner.

    Furthermore, white dudes just ARE slower, in general. Get over it. How many white guys do you see winning track and field sprinting medals?

  37. It wasn’t even used correctly. Maybe the reporter wasn’t aware of Lucks 40, but it would never apply to him anyways. To me, guys who are “deceptively” fast are those who aren’t fast, but make plays like a fast dude. That is deceptive.

  38. It ranks right down there with Black QBs are “athletic” and white QBs are cerebral.

    Nobody’s ever said that about Toby Gerhart? LOL

  39. Maybe the reporter meant it was deceptive bc of the weird leprechaun style beard he wore for a while.

  40. ytrappin504 says:
    Oct 23, 2015 10:52 AM
    Lol the reverse racism during draft days have these titles stamped all over. Where are the PC police during the draft?

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    …..The term “reverse racism” is racist. If a white person experiences racism there is no difference than if a black person experiences racism. So dont put a qualifier on it

  41. *reads headline* *sees white in title*

    *obligatory racist comment about players that has nothing to do with article*

    *racist comment about obama*

  42. ytrappin504 says:
    Oct 23, 2015 10:52 AM
    Lol the reverse racism during draft days have these titles stamped all over. Where are the PC police during the draft?
    ———–

    I think reverse racism is a bit of an overstatement. Coaches / scouts inherently prejudge based on ‘look/body type’. This trickles over to on screen evaluation.

    If players didn’t get signed, due to race, then there might be a case.

  43. Responding to the guy that made a point about McNabb. Um, McNabb is as dumb as a bag of hammers. It isn’t because of his race. It is just because he is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

  44. I do think he is deceptively fast. Someone said above he’s fast “especially considering his size”, so yes when you look at a guy that size you don’t expect him to run a 4.6 40. Nothing to do with skin color if you ask me.

  45. Deceptive speed being a racist label. This is so true, never thought of it before. It would be like saying Russell Wilson or Teddy Bridgewater are deceptively intelligent. Either you are or you aren’t. No more stereotypes.

  46. Andrew Luck is also not exactly an accurate passer, often sails balls.

    Whodats, apply some pressure get some sacks, hit the qb when he runs, and pick him off! Make em say unhhhh nanah nanah!!! whodat whodat!

  47. kenbell97 says:
    Oct 23, 2015 9:38 AM
    No truer words have been spoken..

    Similar phrases used to describe white football players..

    “Max effort guy”
    “Sneaky athletic”
    “Never give up player”
    “Deceptively fast”
    **********************
    You forgot:
    “cerebral”
    “coach on the floor” (basketball)
    “has the pedigree” (reserved for sons of coaches or players)

  48. It’s similar to how nobody ever mentions Jordy or (ESPECIALLY) Edleman in the conversation for the best WR in the league. Both are just as good as Megatron, Brown, Hopkins, Green, whoever.

  49. You forgot precision technique, but seriously, the only other player I specifically recall being said to have deceptive speed was Robert Smith. Vaccaro sounds rather extra sensitive to me.

  50. rollotomasi14 says:
    Oct 23, 2015 9:10 AM
    How is speed deceptive?

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    I like Kenny’s answer. But speed can be deceptive, at least how I am thinking of it (which has nothing to do with color or ethnicity.)
    A tall, long legged and somewhat gangly looking guy who runs as fast as a shorter legged solid looking guy can appear slower when not shown side by side. Longer legs generally means a longer stride, and a shorter/ shorter legged guy has a shorter stride but has faster leg movement. It’s deceptive because the shorter guy looks like he is tearing it up and the taller guy can look like he’s doing more of a jog. It’s true for white and black players.
    Similarly, another thing that changes people’s perception of speed is shoe color. Black cleats vs white cleats on the same player will make him LOOK like he’s running faster or slower. “Deceptive” speed is often times the reason defenders take bad angles on pursuit tackles.

  51. i dont know if Kenny is correct on the reasoning. i think the reason his speed is deceptive is because he doesnt use his legs like a Cam Newton or Michael Vick or RG3. he just uses them when he has too. if he used his legs like them, then he would be more known for his mobility, but because he only uses his legs on a need basis, people get fooled by his speed…..i always said (when he was drafted) that he reminds me of Peyton Manning with Elway like mobility. great combination.

  52. “has the pedigree” (reserved for sons of coaches or players)

     ——-

    Duh…that’s kinda what pedigree is. Has nothing to do withpphrases used to describe white players. Spot on for the others though.

  53. “Exactly. I like Andrew Luck quite a lot, but the fact is, he looks like an Amish farm boy. I don’t recall hearing sportswriters or fans saying Johnny Manziel, Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, or Nick Foles have deceptive speed because they look like they could be fast … and, hey, they’re white.”

    Andrew Luck – 6′-4″ and 240 lbs.
    Aaron Rodgers – 6′-2″ and 225 lbs.
    Alex Smith – 6′-4″ and 217 lbs.
    Nick Foles – 6′-6″ and 243 lbs.

    They’re all within +/- 2″ and 23 lbs. So is it simply the crappy beard that disqualifies him as “looking fast”?

    You’re argument amounts to: “Oh yeah? Well I have a black friend who once got pulled over by a cop, and he didn’t get arrested or shot, so obviously there is no racism being perpetuated on minority groups by police force entities.”

    Listen, I understand that not EVERY white player in the league gets backhanded compliments like they’re “deceptively fast” or they’re “quick rather than fast”; but generally, they’re the ONLY ONES THAT DO when such an assertion can be attributed to nothing other than their skin pigmentation. For example, I’m sure Vince Wilfork’s been called “deceptively fast” by someone before; but that’s because his gut weighs the same as Andrew Luck, not because of his skin color.

    I feel like a topic like this would be far more productive if commenters provided a disclaimer indicating their skin color prior to posting, as to expose any possible preconceived biases. Personally, I’m white (part Irish, part Scottish, and part Italian), I grew up in Boston, and I was raised by the generation that went through forced busing, so racism isn’t anything new to me. That’s not to say that I personally know what it feels like to be prejudiced against because of my skin color, it’s just that I feel that it may be likely that members of minority groups may be using their cognitive dissonance to ignore the reality of racism perpetuated on those with white skin. I’ve seen plenty of white peoples’ excuse making to dodge any conceived culpability regarding a particularly hostile race issue…. and it sounds an awful lot like what you said.

  54. I go out of my way to try and compare athletes to other athletes that are different races mostly just to see the odd looks. Yes, sometimes the lasy racial comparison can be apt (Welker and Edleman actually are very similar) but usually it’s ridiculous. Cole Beasley is not Jordy Nelson or Welker. Welker is not Nelson. Cam Newton is actually very similar to Luck but no one sees it. Instead Newton is a “freak athlete who is becoming more cerebral” and Luck is “a student of the game with deceptive speed.” Try finding anyone who will compare Dirk Nowitzki to anyone but Larry Bird. When I told someone recently I thought Dario Saric would be similar to Lamar Odom (pre Bunny Ranch) the response was, “I was thinking he’d be Dirk or Pau.” My brain almost broke.

  55. “Lol the reverse racism during draft days have these titles stamped all over. Where are the PC police during the draft?”

    Not sport related, but GOOD GOD I hate the term “reverse racism”. An action is either racist or it is not; it cannot be reverse racist.

    Seeing how it is only used in cases in which a white person is the perceived victim, such a term implies a connotation that “only white people can be racist”, which I hope we all agree is patently dumb…

    Just a pet peeve of mine. Like when people say “I could care less” (if you COULD care less, then you DO CARE, as you are not yet are your minimum level of caring), or “anyways” rather than “anyway”, or “mine as well” rather than “might as well” etc.

  56. Over in Washington, The Great Gimmick was “deceptively the Greatest NFL QB” because he was black; in fact he was kept on the roster only because of that fact since you get in trouble holding black QB’s accountable for their own failures.

  57. When someone says “deceptive speed” it doesn’t have anything to do with race. You can say that about a lot of players. It just means it doesn’t look like they have good speed when they run, till they run right by you. Emmitt smith had deceptive speed. Chris carter had it.

    People need to stop seeing race in everything. It’s out of control. Oh and white people, blacks don’t need you to defend them. Stop being the pc police.

  58. They always said that Vince Young had “deceptive speed” because he took long strides and it didn’t look like he was running that fast. However that doesn’t jive with the whole race thing so …

  59. A big guy that runs really fast is deceptively fast because he is big. Not because he is white, brown, yellow, blue, pink.

    Apparently people read WAY too much into everything and pull racism/sexism/what ever ism they can be offended by or defend just for the sake of argument or to get a pat on the back. THIS is what’s wrong with the world.

  60. Andrew Luck and Cam Newton had basically the same combine measurables: size, speed, etc. anyone who is surprised Luck is a great athlete hasn’t been paying attention.

  61. To say the human race as a species is physically the same no matter where different ethnic groups evolved is almost as dumb as saying all dogs are the same physically. for instance, dogs seem to invariably measure the same for intelligence no matter the particular breed. however, although their evolution was not natural but man made still shows the effect of environment on how the dogs anatomy changes. why do eastern and nordic peoples seem to dominate strength contests ? or why do africans from high altitude locales do well in marathons ? there is nothing wrong with celebrating the unique talents we all bring to our human gene pool.

  62. bryonneufeld says:
    Oct 23, 2015 10:43 AM
    Peyton F Manning ran a 4.8 40 at the combine, so suck it all you haters
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    No he didn’t. He audibled to a 20 yard dash at the line.

  63. Been going on for decades.

    Black guy dances in end zone, cool.

    White guy dances in end zone, mockery.

  64. We’re conditioned to think a certain way. I watched Steve Young play QB for years before I finally realized he was white. He had a hard time reading defenses (maybe that’s why I thought he was black), and he always took off running early in his career. Then I realized that perhaps he didn’t try as hard to read defenses when he could gain 25 yards with his feet every time. It wasn’t until an ankle injury that he stayed in the pocket and looked better than ever. So I always referred to Steve Young as the first great black QB.

  65. yerdumb says:
    Oct 23, 2015 12:19 PM
    “has the pedigree” (reserved for sons of coaches or players)

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    Duh…that’s kinda what pedigree is. Has nothing to do withpphrases used to describe white players. Spot on for the others though.
    *****************
    I’d agree with you on pedigree, if it didn’t ignore the fact that most of the players have “pedigree”. Sometimes players are the son or even grandson of great high school or college athletes, who may have been good enough, but never played pro ball for whatever reason.

    They still have the blood line.

  66. This doesn’t happen just in football. It’s said about countless basketball players as well.

  67. Jordy Nelson and Randy Moss also have deceptive speed. Not because of their skin tone, but because they make it look effortless.

    Context…

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