Calls on eligible receivers continue to confound the Ravens

AP

Eligible receiver calls continue to be a problem for the Ravens.

The Ravens were hopping mad during last season’s playoffs when the Patriots employed a tricky formation that confused the Ravens’ defense about which players were eligible receivers. That was the topic of much discussion this offseason, and you’d think there would be no questions on the Ravens about how the rules on eligible receivers are enforced.

But when the Ravens tried to run their own trick play tonight against the Cardinals, lining up offensive lineman John Urschel as an eligible receiver, and completing a six-yard pass to Urschel, it didn’t work. The Ravens were flagged because the referee said Urschel never reported as an eligible receiver.

That was odd, because the ESPN broadcast clearly showed that Urschel looked at the referee and signaled that he was reporting as an eligible receiver. Although the ref was looking right at Urschel when he made the signal, for some reason the ref missed it, and the Ravens were penalized.

Baltimore’s drive stalled after the penalty, and the Ravens had to settle for a field goal. On the ensuing drive, Chris Johnson had a sensational touchdown run for the Cardinals, who took a 7-3 lead.

66 responses to “Calls on eligible receivers continue to confound the Ravens

  1. It’s a joke how NE is the only team that is allowed to run any sort of questionable play and get away with it. Any other team tries it, here comes the flags. NE tries it and it’s brilliant. Not an Arizona or Ravens fan but it’s getting old. Guess just sit back and enjoy NE pick plays all season long lol

  2. League is becoming a joke. The officiating is a disaster each week, but so are my Ravens. I get annual reviews and if I performed like NFL officials I would be jobless.

  3. Harbaugh is simply not head coach material…he doesn’t understand the rules….even when he’s the one who gets the rules changed.

    Pathetic.

  4. Harbaugh is shameless. Complains why people do it to him, then spends the next season trying to do it to others — and complaining when it fails. Coaching himself right out of the league.

  5. This is not the first time this season the Ravens have tried running these kind of deceptive plays. As I recall, Harbaugh made public inferences and innuendo that the Oatriots were somehow doinhg something dirty….or my favorite….violating an “unwritten rule,” which we later found out did not exist anyway. NOW, he’s running the same plays more than anyone else. Go figure. If he felt it was that immoral, he’d make a statement by not engaging in such deceptive practices. The fact that a coaches JOB is to try and get ANY advantage he can for his team, and keep that advantage hidden from the opponent until it’s absolutely necessary to reveal it, apparently was never realized by Harbaugh before this season. OR, he was just pissed because his team wasn’t coached up on such things. Which is it?

  6. @jerryssahdescleaner

    Cry some more. NE gets called for pick plays more than anyone, do you even watch their games?

    In fact, yesterday’s game vs Jets featured Ivory taking s quick pass in the flat and easily beating nincovich for a TD. Decker was praised for his ‘block’ but really he just set a crazy pick that should have been called.

    After the whole deflategate crap you seriously sit their and think NE is beloved by the NFL? Did you read the NFLs filing today continuing the charade. The NFL sure has a funny way of showing their leniency on NE

  7. As the Ravens season has just been flushed and beginning to swirl down the toilet it’s hilarious that harblowhard tries and screws up a trick play that ended his season last year. Hilarious.

  8. Mike Pereira said on twitter “I am very perplexed how the referee did not interpret that as reporting. He has to do it before entering the huddle, but he did.” Come on NFL that was an inexcusable mistake. The official has to be held accountable. Suspension needs to occur.

  9. So we go from Baltimore whining loud enough when it’s done to them and going so far as spin a fake controversy from nothing like a ratty little _____ to them trying to do it to another team (and failing, which they’ll probably blame the other team and whine about it. What a garbage organization.

  10. Please don’t drag the Patriots into this. The ref screwed up, plain and simple.
    The Raven’s got a bad call…. nothing to do with NE.

    If anyone’s tying it to the Patriots, that has more to do with Harbaugh than the Patriots.

  11. The Patriots didn’t just do tricky formations. They illegally didn’t identify themselves each and every play. They tried to send one guy to the ref to purposely overload him with names and number and then would not attempt to give him time to announce them.

    Tricky formations are no big deal, what is a big deal is them not sending certain players over to the ref to identify themselves ( ie wrs who are now ineligible blockers and linemen who are now pass catchers) bc they were trying to hurry up the process so the ref couldn’t announce all new eligible and ineligible players each play which means the defense doesn’t know to cover.

    They tried to do hurry up without properly telling the defense who’s eligible and indeed that is cheating even if it’s breaking such a simple protocol. I personally took more exception to this than some damn PSI missing or not.

    This is no different than running 12-14 offensive players and or packages to huddle up than anyone who isn’t in the play running off the field immediately before the snap. The same premise that made the NFL change that rule back when it became a problem is exactly why they need to change this current rule..

    Pats are on fire this year and a great team overall and I think they have the best game by game coaches but this was flat out cheating in my eyes.

  12. Not a fan of either team but tonight’s game has become unwatchable. It’s flag after flag after flag. I’m turning it off, I love football, but this isn’t football anymore it’s garbage.

  13. What was illegal about the Pats was them sending over one player to identify everyone who was either eligible or ineligible. The rulebook says each player must clearly identify themselves. This is the most significant part of why it was illegal.

  14. On a scale of 1-100 on a surprise factor, with 100 being a complete surprise, I would rate, perhaps a 30 if someday an investigation uncovers that gambling or the Mafia was behind these questionable calls we see each week. Remember Goodell already destroyed a mountain of evidence of cheating which he discovered when he became commissioner.

    Horrible call. – Steelers’ fan

  15. HA HA HA HA HA freaking hilarious !

    Whinebaugh continues to expose himself as a second rate coach.

  16. “Harbaugh is simply not head coach material…”

    I am assuming this is a Cheatriot troll who twice had his team schooled by said coach at Foxborough. What other multi-SB champ has serious doubts about the legitimacy of his team’s “championships”?

  17. Ok this is how Belichick did it. He used his patented Hoodie Of Invisibility with optional teleport function to pop onto the field while invisible and used his telepathic mind control skill to make the ref ignore the guy reporting eligible.

    Lolz

  18. The officiating has been horrible this year,at best !!! The Rams game,the Steelers game,this game,Panthers game,Dallas game,Cincy game.I thought last year was bad,but this year is so much worse !!! Can’t even watch a game all the way through due to the ref’s !!

  19. allidoiswin55 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 9:52 PM
    What was illegal about the Pats was them sending over one player to identify everyone who was either eligible or ineligible. The rulebook says each player must clearly identify themselves. This is the most significant part of why it was illegal.
    ——————–
    It wasn’t illegal and they didn’t send one player to identify everyone. Harbaugh was in over his head and too stupid to call timeout.

  20. In Godell’s distorted view of NFL football, no one is allowed to complain about anything, leaving the refs to determine who wins and who looses. Shhhhh don’t tell anyone!!!!

    Yup, welcome to the NFL where everything is bass-ackwards

  21. It was worth it just to watch him blow a gasket.

    Yes, it looked like he didn’t report you as eligible. But you know how you know that? When the ref says nothing. Without the big, loud, public announcement of “# such and such has reported as eligible”, you aren’t eligible. Waiting until after the play to cry about it isn’t the right course of action.

  22. allidoiswin55 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 9:43 PM

    The Patriots didn’t just do tricky formations. They illegally didn’t identify themselves each and every play. They tried to send one guy to the ref to purposely overload him with names and number and then would not attempt to give him time to announce them.
    *********************

    Actually, that’s not at all what happened. Not. Even. Close.

    But don’t let facts (and video replays available for free) deter you from your agenda.

  23. May be so….however, I don’t have a horse in the race, and what I see tonight is the Ravens getting hosed.

  24. My god, I click on an article that has nothing to do with the patriots and the comments are all about the patriots, you people are totally owned by the hoodie. Obsess much?

  25. stuartscottslefteye says:
    Oct 26, 2015 11:00 PM

    Anybody that thinks what the Ravens run, is the same as what the Patriots ran last year, in regards to eligible receivers, simply doesn’t know football.
    ———————————-

    Of course it isn’t. Harbaugh whined about it and the league enacted the Harbaugh Rule, which outlawed the brilliant plays as executed masterfully by Belichick.

  26. leogirl22 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 9:04 PM
    Yes it is plain as day that the NFL is the National Fixed League! The ref was looking right at the player.
    =======

    Please explain the motive for the NFL to fix a game for the Cardinals.

  27. Patriots dominate your team…and your thoughts…

    And whaaaabaugh, didn’t TB tell you to learn the rule book?

  28. Hatbaugh still hasn’t read the rule book and he’s a head coach. No wonder the league is trending towards mediocrity except for a handful of teams that understand how to play the game.

  29. allidoiswin55 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 9:43 PM
    The Patriots didn’t just do tricky formations. They illegally didn’t identify themselves each and every play. They tried to send one guy to the ref to purposely overload him with names and number and then would not attempt to give him time to announce them.

    Tricky formations are no big deal, what is a big deal is them not sending certain players over to the ref to identify themselves ( ie wrs who are now ineligible blockers and linemen who are now pass catchers) bc they were trying to hurry up the process so the ref couldn’t announce all new eligible and ineligible players each play which means the defense doesn’t know to cover.

    They tried to do hurry up without properly telling the defense who’s eligible and indeed that is cheating even if it’s breaking such a simple protocol. I personally took more exception to this than some damn PSI missing or not.

    This is no different than running 12-14 offensive players and or packages to huddle up than anyone who isn’t in the play running off the field immediately before the snap. The same premise that made the NFL change that rule back when it became a problem is exactly why they need to change this current rule..

    Pats are on fire this year and a great team overall and I think they have the best game by game coaches but this was flat out cheating in my eyes.

    ……………………………………………………………………………………….

    Vereen reported ineligible every time. It was announced and could be heard in the stadium and on TV. There was 7 to 10 seconds from the time the player was announced ineligible to the snap of the ball. To be fair the sound on the field is not always as clear as it is in the stands or on TV. All this was reviewed after the game and the formations and reporting of the ineligible was found to be legal. What the Patriots did was completly within the rules and that was confirmed by the NFL.

    Harbaugh and Baltimore were not prepared and could not process what was happening fast enough. The NFL determined that they were given sufficient time to process the information.

    Take for example the recent Indy game and the fake punt formation. There was a center and the acting QB. The rest were off to one side. The Indy coach said it was to cause confusion and to induce a 12 man on the field against the Patriots or force them to call a time out. The Patriots were able to process this unusual formation in real time and adjust to it. Instead of the Patriots being confused, it confused their own players more.

    Instead of being prepared, Harbaugh threw a hissy fit and now this year he is trying to use the same type of tactics.

  30. gotta love the refs. hard to argue this pats fans. the video is hard to argue that he reported as eligible. glad to see all you harbaugh haters. just remember that you have a guy on your staff that refers to himself as “the deflator”!!!!

  31. The ref was zoned out, and missed it. It happens from time to time. That being said, the player should have ran up to him, instead of calling himself eligible from 10yds away. Next thing you know, there will be a rule that a player must be within 2yds of ref when declaring him eligible or not…lol
    The Ravens played a gritty game, and almost scared the Cards into a massive meltdown. They didn’t blink on the last play when they brought the house on Flacco’s behind. Palmer looked visibly shaken when he made that blunder (intentional grounding) to give the Raven’s a shot…hmmm.
    I love blitzes…that was fun to watch.

  32. Meh, Crybaugh loudly claimed the Pats violated the rules when they didn’t, cried until he got the rules changed, and even cried about the Pats nonviolations again (i.e., that the Ravens would be ready for such impropriety this year). And he started deflategate in retaliation for being embarrassed by Brady’s understandable reaction to such false claims. Then he runs loads of similar “unfair” trick plays himself and the eligibility is mishandled by the refs and it contributes to the loss in one game. LMFAO! But only once it’s bitten him every game for the rest of his rapidly shortening career will I consider things close to being even.

  33. That was an awful call, no doubt. You want to see an equally disgraceful call? See the holding call on K’Waun Williams on 3rd down that gave the Rams a first down so they could seal it. Unbelievably lame call.

  34. He was never announced as being eligible, this should have been the clue Harbaugh and Flacco needed. Harbaugh is an average coach and Flacco continues to fleece the Ravens. They will be horrible for years to come. 1-6, gotta love it!
    Go Steelers!

  35. There are two parts to reporting eligible – the player tells the ref and the ref tells the defense.

    So here you have a player thinking he told the ref, but as the ref did not acknowledge it and did not tell the defense then clearly he did not report to the ref in a way that the ref understood what he was doing.

    I also believe he is supposed to report after the huddle breaks. This sounds like he did it before. And again, since the ref did not tell the defense, he clearly didn’t think the player was reporting as eligible.

  36. allidoiswin55 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 9:43 PM

    The Patriots didn’t just do tricky formations. They illegally didn’t identify themselves each and every play. They tried to send one guy to the ref to purposely overload him with names and number and then would not attempt to give him time to announce them.
    ————————

    This isn’t even close to what happened.
    One player reported ineligible. He doesn’t go to the ref with a list of names and numbers. Also, the ref explicitly told the defense the player was not eligible and it was heard over the stadium PA system.

  37. What the Patriots did last year, as explained by DBlandino, was completely legal and by the book. Anyone that writes long paragraphs trying to debunk it simply don’t know what they’re talking about. Anymore than people that don’t understand the tuck rule was the correct call under the (bad) rule in place at the time, not some form of cheating or conspiracy against the pathetic Raiders. But, whining has always been the cry of the losers. Just like Rams and Panther fans believing walkthroughs were taped.

  38. This was a terrible call. 64 clearly reported as eligible, because I explained to my wife what he was doing and that she should watch for a pass to go to him. The pass then did.

    My question is, if he “never reported” then why was there no flag for illegal touching when he caught a forward pass? It can’t be both ways.

  39. What was illegal about the Pats was them sending over one player to identify everyone who was either eligible or ineligible. The rulebook says each player must clearly identify themselves. This is the most significant part of why it was illegal.
    ===
    That’s not what happened.

    They removed a lineman and put in a back/receiver who reported ineligible. No player reported on other players eligibilities, because that is unnecessary if those players line up in positions matching their numbers.

    That’s also not what the rulebook says. It says that players that are lining up in spots that don’t match their numbers must identify. If you’ve got four linemen and seven ends/backs, then one of the ends/backs will have to identify.

    That’s what happened. It was legal. Your coach and your defense got fooled three times, and you lost.

  40. steelerben says:
    Oct 27, 2015 10:15 AM
    This was a terrible call. 64 clearly reported as eligible, because I explained to my wife what he was doing and that she should watch for a pass to go to him. The pass then did.

    My question is, if he “never reported” then why was there no flag for illegal touching when he caught a forward pass? It can’t be both ways.

    *******************

    Because it was a dead play due to illegal formation penalty. Thus it is like the play never happened. If you watch the video from the time 64 ran on the field, the ref was looking up field and only saw him make that gesture once he was at the huddle and never declared him eligible – that is a key point here and should have been noted by Harbaugh who could have made it clear that the player was declaring eligible. That is part of the rule change that Harbaugh forced last year – no deception. The Ref has to declare him eligible and identify him to the defense. The Ref never did. Perhaps because he only saw him make that gesture once he was in the huddle and by rule he needed to report directly to the Ref before he was in the huddle.

  41. You should mention that this year against the Raiders the Ravens ran the exact same play they were crying about the Patriots doing last year (with different personnel that allowed them to get around the rule change the nfl made after the Ravens went home crying to mommy about). Harbaugh said that any play that gets you yardage is a good play when asked about it. Gee, what a difference a year makes. He’s a whining crying hypocrite.

  42. The ref missed the signal given by the reporting player. An obvious error but…

    The funniest part of this is that the NFL has a confirmation process incorporated into the reporting. The referee announces who has reported and signals it-every time. It let’s the sidelines know the communication has properly been completed. In this case the Ref neither announced nor signaled that a player had reported-it should have alerted the Baltimore sideline. bad coaching.

    Harbaugh lying after the game and saying you “never” hear the announcements is just a$$ covering 101.

    I’ve attended well over 300 professional football games. You always hear the announcement.

  43. SIMPLIFY THE RULES……

    (here’s the thing…….. why is it a rule at all ?

    just simplify the damn rules……

    Why shouldn’t those big OL guys be able to catch a ball or two ?

    If its because they’re so huge they might kill a DB; then just make it simple; #’s 60-79 cannot catch a ball……

    Typical NFL; they just have to make everything so damn complicated…….

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